'[My son] didn't deserve the way he died,' Florida mother denied abortion recounts experience

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  • One year later, Deborah Dorbert, a Florida mother who was denied an abortion under Florida's restrictive abortion law - recounts the traumatic experience of being forced to deliver a baby doctors knew would not survive, even after an ultrasound revealed a Potter's Syndrome diagnosis for the fetus.
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  • @bethfinne3260
    @bethfinne3260 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    So he died in excruciating pain. What a horrible law made by a horrible government.
    So sorry for her and her family.

  • @princessm.5959
    @princessm.5959 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    The husband needs therapy too, but instead...he ends up having to work two jobs. They are destroying families. God help this woman and her family. 😢

    • @mynameisworld
      @mynameisworld หลายเดือนก่อน

      What god? That Republican creation that keeps their people scared and under the control of the cult?

    • @deborahrivera6064
      @deborahrivera6064 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      But we don't want to change the corporate for profit health care and big insurance industry in this country. Yah, we are "pro-life".🙄What a joke.

    • @user-wi9hv2pb2q
      @user-wi9hv2pb2q หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is exactly what Putin wants, a weakened democracy, divided society, diminished education, theocratic bigots and weaker healthcare. He wants to destroy our society. And... Thomas lined his pockets! Where is the problem? MAGA!

    • @K.C-2049
      @K.C-2049 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deborahrivera6064 right? it's amazing how pro lifers are only pro life before they're born.

  • @connieg2581
    @connieg2581 หลายเดือนก่อน +232

    So that baby suffered for 99 minuts. Imagine the pain that mother experiences every day.

    • @CaIypsoJ
      @CaIypsoJ หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      Yes, this is completely unacceptable. This is why patients and doctors need to be making these decisions together without politicians interfering.

    • @mynameisworld
      @mynameisworld หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Imagine the pain of the baby. To us, it's an amount of suffering that lasts less time than a movie. To the baby, it was his entire lifetime.

    • @CaIypsoJ
      @CaIypsoJ หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@mynameisworld No one deserves this. Milo deserved better. I hope all women can stand together and remember stories like this when it's time to vote. It is our responsibility to ensure that this unique kind of cruelty never happens again.

    • @nannie2846
      @nannie2846 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@CaIypsoJ Yes, this is the REAL political interference they talk about. Politics interfering with family life. or in the baby's case horrible death.

    • @Gretabpooh
      @Gretabpooh หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nannie2846It's the death panels they claimed the ACA would establish that never happened. These are all too real, even when their laws claim an abortion to save the life of the mother is legal.

  • @power-corrupts
    @power-corrupts หลายเดือนก่อน +244

    Not pro-life.
    Pro-birth and pro-suffering,

    • @victoriawalsh3243
      @victoriawalsh3243 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Pro-death and anti-rainbow baby

    • @K.C-2049
      @K.C-2049 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      anti choice fr fr

    • @emilyfeagin2673
      @emilyfeagin2673 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And profitable for the medical industrial industry.
      Extra money for high level care and the added bonus of life long trauma caused by the states wrongful intrusion on a personal matter
      It’s not t about “ the babies”. It never has been. It’s about power, 🧑‍🏫 t and control

  • @l.e.brentwood3137
    @l.e.brentwood3137 หลายเดือนก่อน +381

    So, forcing a birth and then watching your baby suffer is better than terminating a non-viable pregnancy? GOP cruelty...😶

    • @lynnjudd9036
      @lynnjudd9036 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Neither the family, the mother, or the child should have had to suffer like that. Our constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment. To me this was all that and more.

    • @cgarv101
      @cgarv101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lynnjudd9036 Read some of the comments on this page. There are some truly horrendous humans coming out of the woodwork, since the interwebs gave everyone world wide access to each other.

    • @lauralafauve5520
      @lauralafauve5520 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Cruelty is the point.

    • @heemlo649
      @heemlo649 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She chose not to get an abortion. The whole story is a lie. Why do you people get suckered by every grifter?

    • @Adam.Langton
      @Adam.Langton หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      It's what their cruel God apparantly wants, and now they're going to force those beliefs on you. Nice theocracy.

  • @dominique217
    @dominique217 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    Not surprisingly, it's men here to tell women how wrong and bad we are. SMH

    • @danielbrown7535
      @danielbrown7535 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Really ?

    • @user-ij6vg8xq2r
      @user-ij6vg8xq2r หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      White women voted for Trump in 2016. Support equal rights for men and you'll get more support from men.

    • @Swnsasy
      @Swnsasy หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      ​@@user-ij6vg8xq2rBlack men have been shown to be the highest percentage wanting to protect our reproduction rights so we already have that, thank you..

    • @user-ij6vg8xq2r
      @user-ij6vg8xq2r หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Swnsasy You need every vote you can get, and denying men equal treatment under the law isn't the way to increase support.

    • @danielbrown7535
      @danielbrown7535 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Swnsasyoakland, the bay area and surrounding democrat hoods..are not thankful for that ...right now. 😂

  • @blue-vu1ek
    @blue-vu1ek หลายเดือนก่อน +162

    No Women or her family should be treated so badly. How is forcing birth helping a family stay strong? How is planning the funeral of your fetus month after month considered a healthy way of life for a woman? Forcing that fetus to term and then allowing it to gasp out it's life is absolute and utter cruelty. Animals are treated better in America than are women and girls.

    • @SesameShorts
      @SesameShorts หลายเดือนก่อน

      shut up

    • @quitaulla1569
      @quitaulla1569 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Very true.😞

    • @forgetitfolks
      @forgetitfolks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sorry we don't treat animals the way that women treat unborn child while they claim to have an absolute right to order the intentional murder of their child. Can you tell us what other right any of us enjoy which is absolute? What other one? Even the 5th Amendment says "No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property; without due process of law..." Even here, our right to life is not absolute but the right to an abortion is according to people like you. According to your ilk, a mother who has an abortion can go from the abortion to the jury box in a case involving someone who claims they took another life to save their life and she could find that person guilty of murder and choose not to believe they acted out of necessity but no one can do that for her? That is absurd!
      Likewise, she can go from having an abortion because she believed "My 99 minute year old son didn't deserve to die that way" to sitting in judgment of a mother who smothers her 40 year old intentionally because "My 40 year old son didn't deserve the way he died..." This is a double standard that is NOT acceptable in a society that is based on the Rule of Law. There are a lot of people who believe a lot of things about their "rights" but there is NOT a single right, not one, that is absolute. Yet, you are suggesting there is an absolute right to abortions. The claim that "Force that fetus to term and then allowing it to gasp out it's life is absolute and utter cruelty."
      Just say what you mean because it is better if you do. You believe that we are a society based on the Rule of Man where men and women like you decide what is and isn't cruel and what you can do and what others can't do. It doesn't matter if people disagree with you, because you can be a juror who finds someone else guilty of murder when they say they were acting in self-defense after you or your family have an abortion because according to you your family has an absolute right to an abortion but others don't have an absolute right to self-defense. It would be interesting to see a conversation between you the juror who had an abortion and the mother of the person you convicted:
      You: I found your child guilty of murder because I didn't believe they acted in self defense and they don't have an absolute right to save their own life
      Mother: My son did act in self-defense and it was necessary for them to take a life to save their lives
      You: I don't care, I don't believe them and I request that the judge issue a sentence of capital punishment because your child can be deprived of the non-absolute right to life
      Mother: You clearly had an abortion, and claim that those of us who see it as murder can't judge it because it is an absolute right and not subject to the Rule of Law
      You: You are right, I can take a life in the case of abortion because I say it's an absolute right and not subject to the Rule of Law
      Mother: So what is subject to the Rule of Law and what isn't subject to the Rule of Law and instead subject to the Rule of Man or the Rule of You>
      You: Whatever I and those I vote for or crown say at any given moment. That's what!!!!! Get used to the Rule of Us as voters and jurors like your families did when we had monarchs

    • @bethfinne3260
      @bethfinne3260 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He died in excruciating pain. What a horrible law made by a horrible government.
      So sorry for her and her family.

    • @angelaschone2847
      @angelaschone2847 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@forgetitfolksabor n is not murd r, it is healthcare i don't know what is so difficult for You to understand it

  • @elainejsta
    @elainejsta หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    And they want us to think this is more merciful than abortion. Disgusting

  • @mynameisworld
    @mynameisworld หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    99 minutes. To us, it's an amount of suffering that lasts less time than a movie. To the baby, it was his entire lifetime. How old are you? 21? 35? 47? 60? Imagine having spent every minute of your whole life in the same condition he was in. It isn't just 99 minutes of agony; it's a LIFETIME of agony.

  • @user-ij6vg8xq2r
    @user-ij6vg8xq2r หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    This story alone should inform Floridians they must vote Blue to keep medical options available.

    • @NoirChloe
      @NoirChloe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JoeByeDumb you obviously didn't see the video. Those topics were discussed - her family was not rich enough for her to travel, she was beyond that threshhold to get an abortion. The doctors don't want to risk their freedom. Since her life wasn't in danger - she could not get an abortion as an exception.

    • @magaareinbredhillbillies
      @magaareinbredhillbillies หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JoeByeDumb i bet your mom and dad are brother and sister.

    • @pamschneider8493
      @pamschneider8493 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Educate yourself on what ACTUALLY occurred with this family before drawing a betting man’s conclusions.

    • @ZEEZob
      @ZEEZob หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JoeByeDumbfair points

    • @JoeByeDumb
      @JoeByeDumb หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pamschneider8493 what would you suggest I do fly into her State interview her personally, than go to the hospital interview the doctors. Than go to the courts petition the hospital to access the medical records so I can see if everybody's telling me the truth
      I doubt the courts would Grant me access.
      Do you think it would be logical to believe what MSNBC is telling me MSNBC who is overwhelmingly biased in favor of abortion
      MSNBC that has a reputation of constantly lying and being intellectually dishonest
      What I'm doing is going on the unlimited information that I have and I'm coming to the best conclusion I could based on the limited information I have access to

  • @laurakarma
    @laurakarma หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    GOP policies at work.

  • @grannygooch706
    @grannygooch706 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Send the bills to the governor and Florida senators. They own this .

  • @elizabethpenny7732
    @elizabethpenny7732 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    So sorry for your inconsolable loss. True tragedy and shame for the state of Florida.

  • @skymama65
    @skymama65 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    I'm guessing they might also have had to pay to bury a baby born full term.

    • @toulousegoose1150
      @toulousegoose1150 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Plus huge medical bills from those 99 minutes of suffering. This poor family.

    • @user-wi9hv2pb2q
      @user-wi9hv2pb2q หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      she mentioned how it wasn't covered by their insurance.

    • @meara628
      @meara628 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Its also about 15k-30k just to give birth. With insurance its still 6k AFTER insurance covering.

  • @micheleconner5083
    @micheleconner5083 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    How horrible to go through such pain at seeing your newborn die in your arms! I know that they didn't want to record this tragedy, but I wish they had,then sent a copy to every politician in Florida. 😢

    • @JoeByeDumb
      @JoeByeDumb หลายเดือนก่อน

      So let me get this straight she's so upset that she wasn't able to get a doctor to rip the limbs off her baby until the baby dies in agony because she didn't want her baby to go through the pain 🤔.
      The radical left doesn't care about the 70 million babies that were murdered over the last half a century or so all of a sudden they care about a baby feeling pain.
      You got the right to use your body for many things but not to murder another person. You may not like the fact that a human being at the fetus stage of life is a person but it's a biological fact proven by the scientific method
      I would suggest anybody who doesn't want to live under America's Constitution leave America
      By the way the radical left supports abortion even if a woman wants to get it a day before the baby's going to be born just so the baby can die and complete agony having a slims ripped off even if the mother thinks that's hilarious. The left supports abortion under any condition. Selective abortion is murder.

    • @wooshydog
      @wooshydog หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@JoeByeDumb said a whole lot of nothing

    • @JoeByeDumb
      @JoeByeDumb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@wooshydog I said a whole lot of informative things , unlike yourself who did nothing but express your feel feels, evidently out of intellectual frustration.

    • @wooshydog
      @wooshydog หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoeByeDumb and yet your comment got deleted
      Whole lot of nothing

    • @wooshydog
      @wooshydog หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoeByeDumb the baby was born only to have died anyway, it had personhood and it was breathing air before it passed
      She wanted a abortion to prevent that suffering
      How is abortion bad but pulling the plus of a brain dead relative isn't???

  • @DavidJ222
    @DavidJ222 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    So who does a woman's body belong to? Does it belong to the federal government, state government, or does it belong to the woman?

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Self deleting is illegal. Do you also advocate for the ability to do that?

    • @SnowDaulphin
      @SnowDaulphin หลายเดือนก่อน

      It belongs to Trump!

    • @JoeByeDumb
      @JoeByeDumb หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a man I don't have the right to use my body to murder somebody else. When you live in a society you don't have the right to do whatever you want with your body you can't murder other people you can't murder your children.
      Sometimes people are forced into taking vaccinations they don't want this is wrong but stopping people from murdering children is not wrong.
      Men are forced by women to go to court against their will and then take DNA from their body against their will and then forced to work a job they might not want to work against their will to take care of your child they might not want to take care of against their will.
      Men were forced to fight in wars while women got to sit home
      So let's not pretend like men in America in the west are trying to control women because we don't support murdering babies..
      Look at the three of the countries that support abortion all the way up to birth these are countries that control women. That would be atheist humanist North Korea atheist humanist China and Israel which is 80% atheist humanist.
      In China a woman can get an abortion all the way up to birth but then again the male government forces women in China to get an abortion against their will.
      In Israel a woman can get an abortion all the way up to birth but not without a Jewish man's permission. Those are examples of men controlling a woman's body making it illegal to murder another human being is no more controlling a woman's body then telling her it's illegal for her to murder at 40 year old innocent woman standing on the street corner
      on top of all this we live in a constitutional republic with a representative democracy. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. The Constitution and the scientific method proves that murdering children is a violation of the Constitutional right to life. If you don't want to live under a constitutional republic maybe America just isn't for you.
      I hate the idea of children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents are automatically American citizens. But I would never support a state ignoring the fact that they are.
      If we just pick and choose the parts of the Constitution that we want to follow whenever something becomes stylish then the Constitution becomes useless.

    • @tjmusiker407
      @tjmusiker407 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It belongs to the gop.

    • @nychellebrewer
      @nychellebrewer หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@TheRealCrimdor No one is censoring you. Or are you just AI?

  • @SnowDaulphin
    @SnowDaulphin หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    This is totally messed up.

  • @mystery79
    @mystery79 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This is so cruel. I bet the jerks who passed this law don’t care.

    • @Gretabpooh
      @Gretabpooh หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course they don't. Their only concern is to force women to give birth, they don't care about the health or welfare of the child they claim to protect. If they did, they wouldn't fight against programs to help that child after it is born. That child doesn't matter again until it reaches the age of 18 and can be sent off to war or forced to spend the rest of their life in corporate slavery. At that point, what matters isn't the child itself, but corporate profits.

    • @emilyfeagin2673
      @emilyfeagin2673 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don’t care. It’s about their profit

  • @AuntieMamies
    @AuntieMamies หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Making these babies be born who are going to be in agony for the hour they're alive is about nothing more than cruelty. I think our recent revelations about Kristi Noem prove that beyond a doubt. They can try to pretend that the abortion thing is about morality all they want but there is nothing moral about making a baby suffer to death in his mother's arms. These stories are heartbreaking for anyone with human feeling

  • @user-hj1mk7zy6t
    @user-hj1mk7zy6t หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    OMG! How barbaric! I am so sorry for her and her husband and little baby. It's ridiculous that anyone has to go through that. I've had an abortion. It's certainly not something that you don't think through. It's a major decision. But it was the best thing at the time but it still affected me. But it's up to a woman to make decisions about her own body. Not some old men sitting on the supreme court that don't have a clue about a woman's body!

    • @pattykelly6621
      @pattykelly6621 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are, unfortunately, many more men than just SCOTUS justice's involved in this war on women.

    • @leahartlee29
      @leahartlee29 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Vote Blue, for our freedoms and sanity as women!! Vote Blue, for men and women who TRUST women to make decisions about their own bodies.

  • @LilyRoberts561
    @LilyRoberts561 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Pro life even if that life is only 99 minutes of pain… no compassion for baby or mother shown by anyone who supports these laws.

  • @melissafalconbridge7490
    @melissafalconbridge7490 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Florida sounds like a terrible place for fertile women to live in.

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And yet a million fertile women move there a year lol

    • @jaleaha1114
      @jaleaha1114 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@elijahobviously1288 where are you getting your info from. Please provide proof

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaleaha1114 Census bureau, although the precise number is more like a couple hundred thousand. I was being facetious.

    • @leoniep9231
      @leoniep9231 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @elijahobviously1288 And your implied premise is that women move to Florida particularly because they love the laws and (lack of) healthcare there? Most people move because of job opportunities, family, or nicer weather in the case of Florida. Your comment does not make any sense in the original context.

    • @costidisa
      @costidisa หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@elijahobviously1288 From the census bureau:
      In 2022, the 60-to-69-year-old age group represented the largest share of people moving to Florida from other states, according to the data, taken from the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey. The second-largest age group moving to Florida was people ages 50 to 59."
      So the two most represented groups are postreproductive, retirement age people.

  • @jamessweet4427
    @jamessweet4427 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Abortion laws should not be "one size fits all".
    There are times when it is medically necessary.
    Lawmakers should not be interfering where they have no medical knowledge of the circumstances! SMH

  • @jamesclark26
    @jamesclark26 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Thank you for your bravery to share your story! ❤

    • @jamesclark26
      @jamesclark26 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoeByeDumb typical MAGA supporter. Always looking past the simple truth searching for a conspiracy theory to use 😡

    • @apt1smith51
      @apt1smith51 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JoeByeDumb forget the fact her body is nun of your business. Period.

    • @NoirChloe
      @NoirChloe หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@JoeByeDumb what you are describing is abortion done after 10 weeks.
      FYI - that type of abortion takes several minutes in total. From the woman entering the office and exiting - barely 15 minutes. And most of that time its just to wait for the painkillers to kick in.
      During that type of abortion, they go for the head first because its the largest part. So death is quick as a bullet.
      So lets compare - barely 5 minutes with immediate destruction of the brain or 99 minutes of slow agonizing suffocation?
      Plus, at that period of gestation, the fetus does not feel pain because to feel it you have to have consciousness. And that part of the brain forms by the 28th week! So there is no pain for the fetus either way.

  • @rjlchristie
    @rjlchristie หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    We treat our pets better than that, except if you are a Republican VP prospect.

  • @xskrym
    @xskrym หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    All the pain, heartbreak and mental anguish this woman is going through is because of Trump and the Republican party. They're destroying women's lives.

    • @savageusa8939
      @savageusa8939 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Democrats had 40+ years and multiple opportunities to codify Roe v Wade, but didn't because it is unconstitutional. It takes away the rights of an unborn child

    • @DOWNUNDER.
      @DOWNUNDER. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a heart breaking story, no doubt.
      As heart breaking as it is lets look at some facts,
      Whilst Florida has draconian laws about abortion, there are many states that have sensible laws on abortion.
      Did this young lady go off quietly to one of those states,
      Or in May last year did she make a public display of her plight assisted by the media for democrats political gain. She certainly could of afforded to go anywhere if she had received money for her story and her "Go Fund Me" enhanced by nation wide publicity .
      She had the opportunity to do what was right and humane.

    • @jaleaha1114
      @jaleaha1114 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      ​@DOWNUNDER. Clearly, you did not listen to the whole interview, and yet you chose to comment anyway. They talked about her inability to pay for an abortion somewhere else , and the struggle they are having now with therapy and medical bills etc

    • @cgarv101
      @cgarv101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DOWNUNDER. Translation: Don't talk about your plight. Tough cookies, go off quietly somewhere else and "handle" business. Definitely a Rethug.

    • @watchmyshine3997
      @watchmyshine3997 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DOWNUNDER.
      So by your facts....she is responsible for finding the help that should have been readily available had it not been for wrinkled old white men dictating a woman's right to her body. By your facts she has the money, time and resources by travel to wherever to get help. By your facts she along with democrats are the blame. Got it....GTH

  • @normapierce7642
    @normapierce7642 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This politicians have no business making lows on personal medical decisions FOR WOMEN........

  • @user-gl5ls6di3t
    @user-gl5ls6di3t หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Empathetic response: so, so heartbreaking. Social justice response: how dare Trump, scotus and Florida law deprive women of the right to healthcare and cause such intense and unnecessary suffering!!!!!! The whole party should be ashamed of themselves for setting women back. And how dare they make an innocent baby suffer until death!

    • @Thomas-il8ph
      @Thomas-il8ph หลายเดือนก่อน

      Save the Babies, Democrats are MONSTERS, lol

    • @sdilluminatigrandfounder3807
      @sdilluminatigrandfounder3807 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

    • @Thomas-il8ph
      @Thomas-il8ph หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Democrat Frankenstein
      LABORATORY, lol

    • @t.h.8475
      @t.h.8475 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Thomas-il8ph It appears you find amusement in their pain.

    • @Thomas-il8ph
      @Thomas-il8ph หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t.h.8475 you Support
      Biden, who showers with his daughter Ashley, according to her diary. Lol
      Well, they don't call him CREEPY JOE FOR NOTHING,
      And You Support him, lol
      Creep

  • @KateWitt
    @KateWitt หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Sending love to Deborah and her family. What a courageous woman to share this story. Thank you. So many of us are sending you love and support and healing.

  • @francesbatycki404
    @francesbatycki404 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    So the GOP not only destroyed any possibility of a healthy result for the mother, it has almost destroyed the three remaining family members. Grrrrr…,

    • @user-gl5ls6di3t
      @user-gl5ls6di3t หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fallout from not allowing abortion include possible health concerns, mental health challenges for not just the mother but all family members, possible dissolution of a marriage that can lead to all kinds of problems including poverty, possible suicide, the pain and suffering of extended family, altered decision making about future children in case this happens again, and so much more... Trump and his scotus cronies and his maga minion party are sick.

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wdym she looks healthy to me

    • @user-gl5ls6di3t
      @user-gl5ls6di3t หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@elijahobviously1288 Mental health is a major factor in physical health. And when someone is suicidal, being dead is not being healthy.

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-gl5ls6di3t So let me get this straight: "The GOP destroyed ANY POSSIBILITY of a healthy result for the mother" because "the mother was sad that her baby died" which is the GOP's fault because "if the mother had ripped the arms and legs off her baby she would have been less sad". And all of this is supposedly destroying the woman's chances of a healthy outcome because "mental health is a major factor in physical health"???
      Hey it sounds super logical to me man. Just confirming...

    • @jadedoak6255
      @jadedoak6255 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@elijahobviously1288"what do you mean, comrade? Her body looks perfect for breeding!"

  • @miriamroe7374
    @miriamroe7374 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm so sorry you had to go through this. Big Hug! I'm crying for both of you 🙏🏼

  • @sunshineroth9605
    @sunshineroth9605 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Stay out of MY WOMB!

    • @byecatsstacey7467
      @byecatsstacey7467 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yet "Republicans" pretend to be for small government while demanding the government be in the womb, in the doctors office, in the family home, in the bedroom, in the pharmacists office, in the insurance office, etc, etc etc.

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you don't want anyone in your womb just don't put sperm in it during ovulation. Super easy 👍

    • @wooshydog
      @wooshydog หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@elijahobviously1288 men need to have self control

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wooshydog Let's not be simps lol. Both men and women need to have self control.

    • @rentonwilson7286
      @rentonwilson7286 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@elijahobviously1288it’s not simping to say women should have bodily autonomy.

  • @noseferachoo
    @noseferachoo หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Making an infant that has no chance of surviving go through the traumatic birth process only to die in pain is beyond disgusting. These Republicans do not really care about life but only their political careers. And evangelicals, who are more concerned with a lofty principle rather than human compassion are even more despicable.

  • @jeanmartin6410
    @jeanmartin6410 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The hospital should be suing the state of Florida for the expenses incurred during this travesty. The mental health people should sue the state for medical expenses.

  • @hazelguillen3993
    @hazelguillen3993 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Medical abortion should have never been touch by stupid politicians in fist place…………… my heart goes out to this families

  • @christinemartin1127
    @christinemartin1127 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    So 99 minutes of painful life inevitably ending in death is preferable to termination. Where is the compassion for the baby enter the "right to lifer's" equation?

    • @irenafarm
      @irenafarm หลายเดือนก่อน

      No no no you’re confusing a baby that’s postbirth with a prebirth situation.
      Prebirth: “We will dye for that person’s well being! There is nothing more important!”
      Postbirth: “K good luck kid you’re a vile sinner now.”

  • @Coffeecup.0110
    @Coffeecup.0110 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is terrible. I’m so sorry she and her family had to go through this. ☮️❤️☮️❤️☮️

  • @CaIypsoJ
    @CaIypsoJ หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    My heart is with you all. "First, Do No Harm," is more than just words. It is a responsibility to ensure that dignity, compassion, alleviating pain, science, and sense are part of good medicine. It is not good medicine to take away the dignity of any life, especially a new life, by subjecting them to 99 minutes in a body with no kidneys and underdeveloped lungs. No one can convince me that they are on the side of life when they stand with cruelty like this. Deborah, you're absolutely right that your son didn't deserve this and neither did you. May the laws change for the better soon.

  • @gigif8566
    @gigif8566 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you for telling us about your experience. I think it's very important that we make everyone understand that abortion is a private medical decision that should not involve the government or anyone else's religious views.
    What is the point of forcing women & families through these traumatic experiences? Women facing medical complications, some which are life threatening. It's just cruel.

  • @kathleensumpf3715
    @kathleensumpf3715 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    They should send their medical bills to DeSantis

    • @Gretabpooh
      @Gretabpooh หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the money given to Clarence Thomas would be better spent for these families.

  • @jojoh8067
    @jojoh8067 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    That poor woman. That poor family.
    How is this happening in the US?
    Literally no-one “wants” to terminate a pregnancy. It’s a horrible experience for any woman, whatever the reason they need to make that difficult decision.
    Vote Blue in November America.

  • @nict6549
    @nict6549 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These babies suffer so much having to go through all that. Everyone involved suffer, it’s so incredibly frustrating and cruel of politicians to make these type laws.

  • @ML-rm3vk
    @ML-rm3vk หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We're are the good people who could help this family in time of need.what happen to this family I shameful and sick.

  • @gypsyart6040
    @gypsyart6040 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    99 minutes of suffering!
    How is that humane!!!???

  • @kookootrix1978
    @kookootrix1978 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the lady for her service in speaking up for all our rights. I'm so sorry for the loss of your son.

  • @ecasaigne
    @ecasaigne หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is so heartbreaking. I’m so, so sorry she’s going through this. Politics should not determine healthcare, yet here we are. My heart goes out to her and her family.

  • @user-lc4qe4gr7k
    @user-lc4qe4gr7k หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can't wait to read DeSantis obituary. No mother should have been forced to deal with this. DeSantis is E V I L. This is beyond cruel. This is inhumane. DeSantis should be brought up on charges of enforcing PTSD on this woman and her family.

  • @Kwk16534
    @Kwk16534 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This show you that it's not about life it's about punishing women and DeSantis should be ashamed if he's even capable of that emotion

  • @s0fa274
    @s0fa274 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No one should have to deal with this. We need politics out of our personal healthcare matters. You can’t put outright bans on something that has so many variables that could go wrong. In the time she carried the non-viable fetus she could have been taking the time to grieve and planning to try again. This should be considered state sanctioned cruelty.

  • @farnazgh6839
    @farnazgh6839 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Poor families

  • @sheryljohnson6602
    @sheryljohnson6602 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And they wonder why so many young women, from 18 to 30, are choosing sterilization now. Some of them just never want to have children, but I'm sure just as many don't ever want to find themselves in this woman's position of being forced to carry a non-viable pregnancy, then having to hold the baby while it's actively dying. Now this woman, instead of grieving after a termination and planning a future pregnancy, is probably doing everything she can to avoid another pregnancy just in case this happens again.

  • @Susweca5569
    @Susweca5569 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It's all about the cruelty and control.

  • @angeljesso
    @angeljesso หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much to Deborah and her family for so openly shairing their story. This is a horrible future that many predicted and i just am saddened by how much people are already suffering for this

  • @whimsicalendeavors
    @whimsicalendeavors หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who lost a child, my heart breaks for all the women in our country going through this horrible tragedy.

  • @dhaley3076
    @dhaley3076 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Will this resolution have to be on the ballot every election cycle?

  • @writerconsidered
    @writerconsidered หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cruelty is the point. Its sadism disguised as religious fervor.

    • @vickiecordon7887
      @vickiecordon7887 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very well said. Excellent description

  • @zoebrinkley7444
    @zoebrinkley7444 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks MSNBC, for continuing to cover this vital topic.

  • @lucystrider728
    @lucystrider728 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I cannot believe we are back to this horrific position for women, girls, and those who love them that we were before we had protection under Roe v Wade-the inhumane consequences are just going to expand and get worse as the number of people affected increases, the medical sysrem becomes more compromised, the extent of catastrophe and death increases and includes younger and younger girls, babies are forced into being with catastrophic needs that are lifelong if they live at all, and the same people that are forcing pregnancy completion also cut funding for poor families, healthcare, and the expensive programs and treatments and educational supports the resulting babies with extensive disabilities are going to need. This is appalling and unacceptable and NOT what
    good people would do as policy. No one thinks abortion is not difficult, but everyone knows the results of forcing unwanted or dangerous or doomed pregnancy completion is inhumane. It is also very unfair and terrible government overreach. Vote blue to save women and girls, preserve our medical care system, and have policies that are supportive of babies during their life.

  • @judithkornfeld3529
    @judithkornfeld3529 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm so sorry for you and your family.

  • @kristinajackson9606
    @kristinajackson9606 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mandatory vasectomies is a very viable concept.....
    In terms of the big picture:
    1. Stops unchosen pregnancy
    2. Stops mental and physical life long scars on female children from unchosen pregnancy.
    3. Stops young men from being held accountable to 18 years of child support by an unchosen pregnancy.
    4. Stops fathers from going to jail for failure to make support payments.
    5. Removes the need for social programs.
    Which, in my opinion will, over time, result in every single child being a chosen child and the return of the family unit with fathers in the home to raise their children and to give their sons a hands on role model.
    Or....... you know, the government can give women's bodies back.
    ❤️✌️💋

  • @elaineisabelle427
    @elaineisabelle427 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry for your small child and your family. Please get the help you need, the big S is never the answer. If I can help you, plz let me know. God loves you.

  • @emilyfeagin2673
    @emilyfeagin2673 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sorry for their loss.

  • @MF-ty2zn
    @MF-ty2zn หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Patients need to make their own medical decisions not the government. That's what Pro-Choice is. Abortion procedures are necessary when WANTED PREGNANCIES GO WRONG.

  • @Cityplace2711
    @Cityplace2711 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    And people will keep voting in the GOP anyway. That's what's beyond me.

  • @mitchfitz4259
    @mitchfitz4259 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Party of life, my butt.

    • @elijahobviously1288
      @elijahobviously1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I can't believe republicans invented Potter's Syndrome /s

    • @CaIypsoJ
      @CaIypsoJ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're right. No one who actually cares about life would accept what happened to Milo.

  • @Milaperadotti
    @Milaperadotti หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This poor woman. Causing her to become suicidal! Shame on disantis !

  • @mnunez1108
    @mnunez1108 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My hearts hurts for you I am so sorry for what you gone thru the lord will help you get thru this trust in him god bless you

  • @asheronwindspear552
    @asheronwindspear552 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such heartache that could have been reduced by medical interest.

  • @skrencker4738
    @skrencker4738 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jeepers..... that is cruel. That's a family broken in their mind, for religious reasons..... wowsers.

  • @cathywiorek8770
    @cathywiorek8770 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😢😢😢😢😢

  • @mowida1
    @mowida1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to know how many newborns are dying now. How does that compare with the number of abortions that happened the last year of Roe?

  • @amyb4730
    @amyb4730 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @MSNBC can you post a legitimate link if there is a GoFundMe for Deborah dorbert and her family?

  • @davidl4191
    @davidl4191 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This couple are so strong and so brave.
    The republican lawmakers that put them in this position are so weak and so very cowardly.

  • @DutchIsraeli
    @DutchIsraeli หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sad 💔

  • @deannealbrecht774
    @deannealbrecht774 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cruelty is the point

  • @Hellzangel115
    @Hellzangel115 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This woman is having her life and marriage fall apart be ause she wasnt given a procedure that was medically necessary. She had to hold her son who died in pain and agony. A condition in which medical professionals had to alllow to happen even though it probably violates the hypocratic oath to let someome suffer and died in agony

  • @williamstafford8248
    @williamstafford8248 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Take the government our of all abortion laws

  • @Kathy-pr4wu
    @Kathy-pr4wu หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What kind of health insurance does she have that it won't cover psych therapy?? I don't know any health insurance that won't. In my admittedly NOT humble opinion, those legislators who made the law that denied the abortion to terminate her unviable pregnancy should be paying all her bills. Meaning--sue them for damages.

    • @irenafarm
      @irenafarm หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A lot won’t cover it or only cover a few visits, if you’re not ill with a DSM pathology.

    • @mynameisworld
      @mynameisworld หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Most insurance will not. If yours does, you are one of the fortunate few and likely wealthy.

    • @queenslanddiva
      @queenslanddiva หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes, this woman obviously doesn't know what HER OWN insurance will cover. You of course, know better. FFS

    • @sdilluminatigrandfounder3807
      @sdilluminatigrandfounder3807 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I know many that don't, mine included. It used to, but it is another thing we have lost due to conservatives.

    • @user-wg5vn2rn9j
      @user-wg5vn2rn9j หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      coverage of psychological/psychiatric therapy is very, very spotty with insurance companies.

  • @viapumpkin9377
    @viapumpkin9377 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JFC....I'm in mental health and the fact that these folks can't have their therapy covered disgusts me. Every single person should have access to affordable copays through their insurance plan. Mental health care IS health care and shouldn't require someone to get another job to pay for it when they're already under duress and grieving. Healthcare for all. Now. My heart breaks for this family.

  • @MsLemon1971
    @MsLemon1971 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our system is destroying us.

  • @jroysims44
    @jroysims44 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deborah's a very strong woman.
    Unlike most Floridians.

  • @Jj-mn2nz
    @Jj-mn2nz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👂 It’s Lawsuit Time against DeSantis and the Florida 🤔

  • @dawns4641
    @dawns4641 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HORRIBLE! Poor Mom, she loved her child.

  • @thesixthgirl6199
    @thesixthgirl6199 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What kind of garbage insurance doesn't cover therapy/mental health care? I know Florida is horrible, but I didn't realize they didn't have mandatory mental health care parity protections.

  • @jeanettecarter5438
    @jeanettecarter5438 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    💙💙💙💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @AZbluedot196
    @AZbluedot196 หลายเดือนก่อน

    same thing happened in AZ. It's SICK!! This is not about saving babies, it is about controlling women!!!!!!!

  • @mk4881
    @mk4881 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There should be a fund helping woman who can’t afford to travel to other states for needed abortions. (Although there shouldn’t be a need for that in the first place of course, but here we are)

  • @hannahbenfield5375
    @hannahbenfield5375 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😔

  • @ML-rm3vk
    @ML-rm3vk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Go fund me could help these good people in their time of need let the viewers know.

    • @Kwk16534
      @Kwk16534 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But that can't be the only answer we need to protect women's rights to make these decisions

  • @MaddogMike-444
    @MaddogMike-444 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We are really seeing the cruelty of the GOP, not with just this incident but the puppy killing. My soul hurts over this baby suffering in his death forced upon this family by cruel uncaring GOP politicians.

  • @ilovecatvideos1851
    @ilovecatvideos1851 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Florida is far from the worst state. At least there are “exceptions” and the ban is not “fatal” and there are not laws putting a bounty on those who assist with giving information on obtaining abortion or leaving the state like Texas with talk of pregnancy tests to board a plane to leave the state.
    This story is of course heartbreaking. To think of the length GOP lawmakers will go to however is jaw dropping.

  • @netizen_a
    @netizen_a หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vote them out.

  • @dancinggrace22MSU
    @dancinggrace22MSU หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Florida requires 60% of the vote to pass a constitutional amendment. So we need at least 60% of the voters to enshrine our right to abortion into our state constitution.

  • @abadstroller
    @abadstroller หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The cruel misogyny of GOP.

  • @figgy7099
    @figgy7099 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don't think an abortion would have caused the baby any pain, getting ripped apart into shreds and sucked out of your womb?

  • @pourquoipas971
    @pourquoipas971 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a cruel path , for this little baby, this family and Humanity… religions still are a big problem… i wish you courage and peace

  • @rosemariebredahl9519
    @rosemariebredahl9519 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FDLMP means
    First Day of
    Last Menstrual Period, and is how
    pregnancies are timed,
    NOT
    from date of
    missed period..

  • @karencamburn6773
    @karencamburn6773 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sad,,sick of DeSantis and the others !!!

  • @robinhightower9031
    @robinhightower9031 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only so many didn't use abortion instead of abstinence or birth control we may not have been in this mess.

  • @jayneroberts1236
    @jayneroberts1236 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What life did this save😑😑