"Who are you ? Show your face!" I am the Future Flash. "Who are you ?" Dammit Barry i said it five times already during the season I am the Future Flash.
He is FUTREN FLASH [edit "Futre, Flash"] and for the love of god can they wire them to be smart they are supposed to be the fucking smartest people on Earth.-1 Barry thinks like 500 times faster than normal people how can he be so fucking stupid, just make it more interesting for people that actually care about the show.
''I am the future, Flash!'' You said that b4 but..okay. ''Like I said, I'M THE FUTURE, FLASH!'' Well.. o...kay.. ''I AM THE FUTURE, FLASH!'' OKAY THIS IS GETTING WEIRD ''FUTURE FLASH'' OR ''FUTURE,FLASH''??!!!! lol
Savitar trying really hard to get Barry to want to kill right after Barry has his crisis on whether he should start killing kind of cements it for me, alongside future Barry telling the Legends not to trust present Barry.
Savitar is another version of Barry Allen, hence why Savitar kept saying Barry has everything and he took everything from him. When he said "the moment you created flashpoint, i saw a way to take my revenge" or some shit, it's because he can take everything from Barry as well. Also, he told Barry that he would reveal himself after doing so.
Okay, it's pretty freaking obvious Savitar knows Barry (and Team Flash) very well. Given some of the lines "I create myself" "You're the man Joe raised, the one Iris loves" I see two strong possibilities: 1) He's future Barry (as a number of people here are speculating) 2) He's future Wally (I think the "jealous of Barry" elements have been pretty obvious, and they've been downright hostile at times, including during this episode) The only thing I'm missing is the line about "loving a good myth." That line smells like a hint.
Savitar said again and again that he is the future Flash. Then he said that he gave himself his powers; we all know that in comics barry was the bolt of lightening that made him the flash. I have increased suspicions that he really is the Future Flash (Barry Allen) as in the comics too the future flash had bluish white suit with white lightening (similar to savitar) Just a theory that came to my mind.
And also , when Barry says "We got rid of the philosopher stone" , Savitar replayed " Did we ?!" . If Savitar wasnt one of the Team Flash members he would say " Did you ?!" . I think he is either Barry from future or Wally.
Kiko Vojvoda my bet on future Barry. "Only *one* of us can live" he said. "You'll *never* get over this" he said "I am the *future*, Flash!" The evidence is everywhere
Savitar is Barry.Thats how he knows everything about team.Thats why he doesn't simply kill barry.He said '' i created myself'' Death of Iris makes Barry Savitar.
Savitar is the future flash, he just is, it's so bait like the show is making it easier to clock on but it is him, savitar knows everything about flash, he even knew that he proposed even though iris didn't have her ring on at the time
6:20 You mentioned why the second flash cant see wally and cisco , its because the second flash is in the future as well as first flash and iris and savitar . Second flash insnt there because cisco vibed him .
Did anyone catch that possible clue? People assume a certain subtext. Explore another. Savitar: "I am the future flash." Think about it. Or better yet, open your mind.
Kingsley silvain how are you going to stop someone from getting pulled into the speedforce when you don't even know how that thing works? What if Barry got pulled in as well? I doubt Jessie would do shit
Savitar is Wally. "You were there when I created myself" That's when Flash ran to Wally bringing in Savitar. Not only that but, "I am the future flash" in the comics Kid Flash becomes Flash. Sick plot twist!
Your sidekick and future brother in law is getting sucked into the speed force. He literally screams "Help me Barry!" You stand there and watch without at least taking a single step. Someone apparently forgot how to be a hero...
I mean that's not really the point, Wally was gonna get pulled in anyway, but they could have at least made it look like Barry was gonna try SOMETHING lol
+Israel Padilla To be fair, it's not like there aren't others to pick up the slack if he went after Wally. Jesse Quick is a speedster. Vibe has frequency manipulation powers, even Ms. Snow has Ice Powers if push comes to shove. Plus, they've got so many other friends with powers... I think it's just bad writing and directing. These are the things people excuse because it's TV yet fail to appreciate about the movies when they are done right. Story wise this episode (and a lot of others these past couple of seasons) have been a mess. But it's understandable that they don't hit it out of the park all the time.
SOG323 Jessie would be in emotional distress over losing Barry, Cisco isn't at gipsy lvl of using his powers and Caitlyn snow powers are dangers to use since her killer frost personality can come out and just mess everything up. But yeah the writing for this season has been inconsistent and kinda wack hopefully they fix it in the upcoming episodes or next season
That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying he didn't even at least put an arm out for the guy and just stood there. If it were Iris, would he also just watch her get sucked in without moving an inch?
I think it's pretty clear by now that Savitar is Barry. We know that Thawne created an alternate timeline when he went back in time to train Barry, so the order here would be: the Barry from Thawne original future fights the Barry from the altered future by Thawne, the Barry that becomes Savitar because "he created himself" by killing Iris; Savitar is a paradox, as he said, he cannot exist if the Flash exists at the same time in the future, alas why he fighted him in that time and was trapped in the speed force. I'm pretty sure by now that the introduction of Black Flash in legends of tomorrow was for something, I think that because Savitar is a paradox the same way the Reverse Flash is in LOT, the only way to defeat him is getting him caught by the Black Flash and getting effectively erased from the timeline.
When u ask why the flash can't see kid flash in the future, it's cuz they're not physically there, it's just their minds... hence their bodies still being at star labs
Even though they said Caitlin betrayed the team, I feel like it was Wally because he gave Savitar what he wanted but he was only trying to help. Caitlin was actually the reason why Savitar wasn't freed.
I liked that there following the comics to a certain degree. Wally being trapped in the speedforce like in New 52 and returning in Rebirth. Especially, Savitar being released as well. Also, I'm hoping Wally comes back with the silver and red suit 😁.
Leaked Movie Stuff both. Team flash has been training a lot so I guess his speed is getting better. And Savitar was trapped in the speed force for eternity for him. So he's probably rusty.
the flash cant see kid flash at 6:04 because wally and cisco didnt actually go into the future.. he only vibed to that moment.. its not reality its just a perception of one reality that they can go into and assess, pretty obvious when you stop and just think about it maybe.. also, jesse calls herself jesse quick.. she said it pretty early in the season when she first got her powers and came to earth one
I think it is because the Flash that is watching everything go down is actually physically there until Jay Garrick pulls him back into the speedforce. Cisco and Wally are just observers outside of that space. Like watching a movie.
Wally is always getting stuck in the speed force if you didn't see it coming sooner or later your not a flash fan I'm also sick of Caitlin getting a pass for doing stupid stuff the whole killer frost being a split personality thing is annoying just because she has powers doesn't mean she is becoming killer frost
i think they are basically making Caitlin like magenta(the meta from earlier in the season) a meta who is timid and bottles their emotions and hence creates a split personality that takes over.its a bit cliche really and yeah she shouldn't get a pass for doin dumb shit.
I'm really happy to see all these speedsters in live action. I'm so excited to see my boy Bart Allen in the near future! He's my fav speedster in the comics because of his story.
Lol. I really think Akasan should go back to the US again for a few years. Being away from home that long seems to mess up the grammar and makes forming words difficult.
😂😂😂 Gasssh. I'm tearing my hair out here lol. Mixing up Linda Park with Iris West. Calling New 52 Reverse Flash (Daniel West) God Speed lol Like one is Red and Black the other is Gold and White... Come on my brother! Salvitar instead of Savitar. Oh Akasan. Keep shinning brother! 😂
+Aconn1997 We should ban DCsan from leaving whenever Akasan is doing one of these lol. Seriously though, I understand that not every fan knows or has ready all the stories.
Godspeed is yellow and white the Black and Red was Daniel West. Hopefully Wally gets his Silver and Red suit...but I don't think he's coming back this season tbh cause he wasn't in the future when Iris died.
Akasan Wally West marries Linda Park in the comics, who in Season 2 was the Earth-1 counterpart of Earth-2's Doctor Light, and who Barry dated in Season 1.
Savitar is Eddie. Rule of DC Comics- if theres no body, they are not dead. Which means Ronnie, Snart, and Eddie are alive. I think its eddie cause of how he mentions Iris and Barry (jealous). He also knew everyone. He said Fake Wells maybe cause he thought it was still Thawne, or cause he already knew that Earth-1 Wells is dead. Plus, why would he say reverse flash's real name, Thawne, but not Zoom. Looks like savitar/eddie caught up on what he missed. Thats why he said "Zoom"
Akasan "the other Flash"(the one that went there after throwing the stone into the speed force)is in the future for real, Cisco and Wally are in a Vibe vision. That's why "the other Flash" can't see Wally. And the Flash from that future is busy dealing with Savitar.
Akasan The reason that the barry that went to the future couldnt see Wally because that flash time traveled and is physically there but Wally is vibing with Cisco
He literally let him go. Didn't even take a single step forward. What kinda hero does that man especially when it's someone who's supposed to be your damn sidekick
Because otherwise Barry would've been sucked into the speed force as well and he wasn't sure if he got stuck there again. If he would've been stuck as well there would be no one to save Iris because Jesse is not capable of doing it.
That's not the point. The point is, as a hero, he didn't even at least try to take a step forward. In the comic, Barry at least threw a hand out for him. And if it were Iris, would he have also just stood there just because he knew he couldn't save her? He moved when Savitar stabbed her...
Even if Barry did try to do something, there was no helping him at that point. He threw the piece that Savitar needed into the speed force allowing them to trade places. Nothing he could do, the moment Wally did that he was fucked.
The Flash that's watching the scene can't see Wally because technically, we have to see it from the point of view of Wally. Everything is a vibe, it's like wally is watching a movie. The Flash (from episode 3x09) was really there. Cisco and Wally are not, they are just watching like a sort of illusion. That's why the Flash (3x09] isn't seeing Wally and CIsco. It's like a VR Scene for wally and cisco haha
So supposedly Savitar has been in the speed force all this time but isn't the speed force yellow?? I mean if you remember when Barry got stuck in the speed force it was yellow not white/blue. So what if Savitar was stuck in the negative speed force or something like that??
CarlosVendera nah man. Savitar is totally future Barry. He can't kill Barry because that would mean he couldn't exist. He also needs him to see Iris die so he becomes savitar. When Barry asks him who he is his response is always: "I am the future" as in he's Barry's future.
I like this theory too. IMO it's like 50/50 between Barry and Wally at this point. btw. didn't Savitar say that he will kill Flash, just not right now?
Guys, this is what I think is going to happen this season. Mind you: this is only my speculation. Savitar keeps saying he is the Future Flash. Not Future, Flash but Future Flash. Iris' death transformed Barry into Savitar. Like in the comics, Flash in the future had a blue suit and blue/white lightning. Future Barry became like that because of Iris' death. Wally is will force his way out of the SpeedForce being way, way faster than before and he will have a new suit. Namely, the silver and black suit. And he will mess Savitar up. And we all know CW has its own and different take when it comes to the Flash. It is plausible that this will happen. This is what I think and HOPE will happen this season.
getting the vibe that barry didn't trap him in the future, he is barry in the future blue flash barry he blames himself for letting something happen so he is trying to recreate himself earlier than he originally did so that he is willing to kill whatever it is that barry failed to beat the first time
XxQueen MelaniexX tbh I think I kinda ruined Flash for me BUT I think Savitar is POSSIBLE SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS AHEAD Future Flash himself! Why you ask? First of all every motive he has would fit into Future Flash's character "you took everything from me" every loss Barry has suffered until now and beyond. He knows so much about the whole crew. How? Well if he's Barry then he obviously knows everything about them. Savitar & Future Flash both have blueish designs :D I mean why else did CW chose to design him differently for The Flash if not considering how 80s his design was? If they wanna hide his face and how do they keep the viewers away from thinking about who he is? By giving him a sick metall suit👍🏼 And there always has been this sentence in Savitars monologues: "I am the future flash" Now one could either read it as "I am the future, Flash!" OR "I am the Future Flash!" The CW could pull of the reveal on this pun easily in the last episode or so...But my theory has big flaws, I know. Savitar said "You trapped me in the Speedforce" Does this mean another version of Barry from either future or past did this or even from another Earth? And because of all the writing I forgot the second one xD sry, what do you guys think?
So I'm guessing Caitlin revealing that she will be the one 2 betray team flash means we will get 100% Killer Frost sooner rather than later on Earth 1.
"I am the Future,Flash" - Savitar said it before this episode,like 2-3 times,but now he says it multiple times in one episode and people go crazy..it's time to stop,Barry is not Savitar..open your eyes,it's Wally..ONLY PERSON TO CALL WALLY - WALLACE IS HR AND SAVITAR...and Savitar even said,the Coward(hr) survived his Wrath..why ? Because Wally spared him..
wouldn't it be better, if Barry run into portal,running to save Wally ,and Savitar suddenly appeared and grabbed Barry from his head and went out of portal tossed Barry a wall?
Hey guys.. Did Flash in the comics had some fighting training ? Cuz in this show.. he just knows how to fight without showing any fighting training (when he was training he was doing just run stuff.. same as Wally now) Sorry but I really want a Flash like the one from the first Injustice 2 reveal.. That character was kicking ass in a bad-ass way! (even versus Superman) I hope Batfleck will train Ezra s Flash to fight like that
What if... The future comes in(where savitar kills iris) and the barry that travel to the future helps his future self and by this, he would be like his "time remnant", and that could change everything. or like a lot of flashes help "the flash" I know this hurts your brain lol
Here is a Question of the Video: Do you think Wally will come out of the Speed Force this season? And if so, do you think he will have the yellow suit or his silver suit?
When Savitair's identity is revealed I can guarantee no one will view Barry the same ever again. Also the more he says I am the future, Flash the more I'm starting to think what he's really saying is "I'm the FUTURE Flash. Wether that means his future self or someone who took up the mantle I don't know. Also you really think the Speed Force is going to be up for a chat thanks to everything Barry has done in this season?
For some reason the last line Barry says "Fear is the Reason for all this" to me he sounded like Savitar just not as deep of a voice. Is that just me? Cause I am starting to wonder if Barry is Savitar. I mean he keeps saying "I am the Future Flash". Maybe a crazy thought but I don't know I could see some weird twist like that
Akasan, being in the Speedforce is not a good thing, it drives everyone insane,that is what happened with the Reverse Flash, he got crazy after spending months in the Speed Force!
''I created myself'' ''you thought it was reverse flash, zoom, but it was always me'' ''only i can bring out my greatness'' ''every step you take brings you closer to me'' ''theres only one thing i need'' ''you still have to watch Iris die'' ''reverb told you you could be a god cisco''[savitar wasn't there] ''you're a good guy the boy Joe raised the man Iris loves'' ''I am the future'' do those sentences sound weird to say or is it just Barry
There were two wally west from Young Justice and The Flash. One of them was trap on the speed force. I have theory about savitar I think he is the future flash because I saw on the comics The Flash "Out of Time" and "The End of the Road" Barry becomes the blue flash look at savitar lighting speed it is blue.
Man I love they gave Savitar a proper suit...hated the CGI Wow....Barry's movement was different when he was holding Savitar's hand and trying to unmask him...anyone else notice that???? I need a proper Savitar origins episode....
Akasan.. I did like the "dickish" Barry.. but just because he's losing his shit over the thought of losing Iris.. and as a woman, I actually love that coz he'll do anything for her.. and I love Iris more for guiding him not to lose who he is as a hero, even if it means her death. I don't think he's hypocritical.. I don't read the comics but what this show has made Barry to be, he's always had tunnel vision when it comes to those people he loves and cares about. So he reacts instinctively to keep those people safe. But he does check himself when he does something that results into something bad.. ex. leaving his happiness in the alternate timeline with his parents to save Wally's life in 3x01. Barry is good at carrying the guilt of the world on his shoulders and even at his dickish moments, he's still as selfless as ever. He's basically just human after all and a hero that is still learning and growing. At your other point, I'm with Iris regarding their engagement... they are an iconic couple but like Joe said, their love should be simple.. an engagement borne out of fear is tainted, as Iris have said. So yes this angst for their relationship is appropriate but hopefully the writers won't F! It up like they did with Olicity 🙄.. as always I enjoy your reactions.. till next time
Love the cohesiveness of the whole season like everything that's happened all season long is Barry's fault . it's a good take on the show and does make a point that Barry's been the villain the whole time. Great long-term storytelling and hopefully it teaches him a lesson not to screw with anything time related from here on out. but then again it is a TV show so who knows.
The scene where Barry watches Wally get sucked into the speed force just reminds me of the scene from The Lion King where Mufasa begs Scar to help him on the cliff and instead he says "Long live the king." and pushes him off. Seriously Barry stands a good 20 feet away and watches Wally reach his hand out to him and he does nothing.
nawleansmanbeast So you're just going to dive in and help Wally even though you don't know how the speed force works and then get maybe get sucked in as well
Israel Padilla Wally is reaching his hand out for Barry to pull him back but Barry does nothing and just watches. He also just watches Savitar slowly crawl out. He didn't try and pull Wally out or push Savitar back in. Why was he even there?!
nawleansmanbeast I mean they don't know how the speed force works so for all we know he could've been pulled in as well and then I mean if you saw something crawling out of a portal or something else you woudknt just push it back, you would either run away or just stay there and see what it is, it is human nature lol and plus how do you know that if Barry did grab wallys hand it woudknt have disintegrated?
Wally: 'BARRY HELP MEEEE!!'
Barry: 'Nah fam, imma just stand here and watch'...
I know he couldn't have stopped it but he didnt even move😂😂😂
TheBlasian96 Exactly he didn't even fucking flinch
TheBlasian96 he was scared thats why he didnt move
Wally was being sucked into the speed force. If would have tried something similar would have happened to him.
TheBlasian96 he was like " shouldn't have snitched on me to Iris "
Dfree1014 Barry deserved to be snitched on. He was a total asshat this episode
"Who are you ? Show your face!" I am the Future Flash. "Who are you ?" Dammit Barry i said it five times already during the season I am the Future Flash.
HunHaze is he saying "Future Flash" or "Future, Flash"?
He is FUTREN FLASH [edit "Futre, Flash"] and for the love of god can they wire them to be smart they are supposed to be the fucking smartest people on Earth.-1 Barry thinks like 500 times faster than normal people how can he be so fucking stupid, just make it more interesting for people that actually care about the show.
He is saying "I am the Future, Flash!"
Really have to go back and watch Back in a flash :)
Yeah you right
Akasan, the "other" Flash can't see Wally, because the other Flash was a time traveler. Wally is in a VIBE! :P
they redeemed flash with this episode fantastic nod to the rebirth
DEADtoRISE08 redeemed? did you watch the same episode/show?
XekTOr yep this episode was fantastic
This episode was GREAT
BCkhaos i KNOW
Redeemed how? This season has been great and better than S2.
''I am the future, Flash!''
You said that b4 but..okay.
''Like I said, I'M THE FUTURE, FLASH!''
Well.. o...kay..
''I AM THE FUTURE, FLASH!''
OKAY THIS IS GETTING WEIRD ''FUTURE FLASH'' OR ''FUTURE,FLASH''??!!!!
lol
... What if he's hinting not that he's, '"the future, flash," but that he's the FUTURE FLASH. LIKE THE FRIKIN' FLASH FROM THE FUTURE!!!!!
Exactly. i feel like this Savitar is like the blue Flash in the New 52. broken Barry Allen from the future. but its just a fun theory that's all
well he did hint at the fact that iris needs to die for him to be born
Savitar trying really hard to get Barry to want to kill right after Barry has his crisis on whether he should start killing kind of cements it for me, alongside future Barry telling the Legends not to trust present Barry.
SuperShah201 wasn't he a lantern when he was blue? (it's been a while)
yall know what happens every time wally goes in the speed force..... he comes out fast as shit
😭😂
Savitar is another version of Barry Allen, hence why Savitar kept saying Barry has everything and he took everything from him. When he said "the moment you created flashpoint, i saw a way to take my revenge" or some shit, it's because he can take everything from Barry as well. Also, he told Barry that he would reveal himself after doing so.
Ah it wouldn't be a Flash episode without secrets and characters unwilling to let people know of their misguided plans before doing them.
Okay, it's pretty freaking obvious Savitar knows Barry (and Team Flash) very well. Given some of the lines "I create myself" "You're the man Joe raised, the one Iris loves" I see two strong possibilities:
1) He's future Barry (as a number of people here are speculating)
2) He's future Wally (I think the "jealous of Barry" elements have been pretty obvious, and they've been downright hostile at times, including during this episode)
The only thing I'm missing is the line about "loving a good myth." That line smells like a hint.
Savitar said again and again that he is the future Flash.
Then he said that he gave himself his powers; we all know that in comics barry was the bolt of lightening that made him the flash.
I have increased suspicions that he really is the Future Flash (Barry Allen) as in the comics too the future flash had bluish white suit with white lightening (similar to savitar)
Just a theory that came to my mind.
And also , when Barry says "We got rid of the philosopher stone" , Savitar replayed " Did we ?!" . If Savitar wasnt one of the Team Flash members he would say " Did you ?!" . I think he is either Barry from future or Wally.
Kiko Vojvoda my bet on future Barry. "Only *one* of us can live" he said. "You'll *never* get over this" he said
"I am the *future*, Flash!" The evidence is everywhere
Savitar is Barry.Thats how he knows everything about team.Thats why he doesn't simply kill barry.He said '' i created myself'' Death of Iris makes Barry Savitar.
Savitar is the future flash, he just is, it's so bait like the show is making it easier to clock on but it is him, savitar knows everything about flash, he even knew that he proposed even though iris didn't have her ring on at the time
As it was an attempt to change the future, maybe savitar or flash tried all the things that flash is doing now and it didn't work so maybe that's why
Diogo Angelico Iris' death turns Barry into Savitar. He says to Iris. "I'm sorry you have to die. But it's you or me"
6:20 You mentioned why the second flash cant see wally and cisco , its because the second flash is in the future as well as first flash and iris and savitar . Second flash insnt there because cisco vibed him .
Poor wally, he was excited for today's episode
Did anyone catch that possible clue? People assume a certain subtext. Explore another.
Savitar: "I am the future flash."
Think about it. Or better yet, open your mind.
bharris3 but every time he says that he has a pause in between future and flash
what if wally comes out with the sliver suit
Jon the pswap i would bust nuts I don't even have
Jon the pswap I'd be upset
Jon the pswap I'd be upset
The WerewolfF Why would you be upset?
because I hate that suit
Somewhere in Tokyo
Akasan-"Savitar the fastest god alive"
Somewhere in Greece
Hermes-"what the fuck dude?!"
It seems like Barry didn't even try to save Wally
Kingsley silvain how are you going to stop someone from getting pulled into the speedforce when you don't even know how that thing works? What if Barry got pulled in as well? I doubt Jessie would do shit
I agree, the practical Savitar suit looks pretty sweet. Great vid as always!
Savitar is Wally. "You were there when I created myself" That's when Flash ran to Wally bringing in Savitar. Not only that but, "I am the future flash" in the comics Kid Flash becomes Flash. Sick plot twist!
Your sidekick and future brother in law is getting sucked into the speed force.
He literally screams "Help me Barry!"
You stand there and watch without at least taking a single step.
Someone apparently forgot how to be a hero...
TitanGT66 what if Barry got pulled in as well? Lmao rip central city savitar is just going to run free
I mean that's not really the point, Wally was gonna get pulled in anyway, but they could have at least made it look like Barry was gonna try SOMETHING lol
+Israel Padilla To be fair, it's not like there aren't others to pick up the slack if he went after Wally. Jesse Quick is a speedster. Vibe has frequency manipulation powers, even Ms. Snow has Ice Powers if push comes to shove. Plus, they've got so many other friends with powers...
I think it's just bad writing and directing. These are the things people excuse because it's TV yet fail to appreciate about the movies when they are done right. Story wise this episode (and a lot of others these past couple of seasons) have been a mess. But it's understandable that they don't hit it out of the park all the time.
SOG323 Jessie would be in emotional distress over losing Barry, Cisco isn't at gipsy lvl of using his powers and Caitlyn snow powers are dangers to use since her killer frost personality can come out and just mess everything up. But yeah the writing for this season has been inconsistent and kinda wack hopefully they fix it in the upcoming episodes or next season
That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying he didn't even at least put an arm out for the guy and just stood there. If it were Iris, would he also just watch her get sucked in without moving an inch?
I think it's pretty clear by now that Savitar is Barry. We know that Thawne created an alternate timeline when he went back in time to train Barry, so the order here would be: the Barry from Thawne original future fights the Barry from the altered future by Thawne, the Barry that becomes Savitar because "he created himself" by killing Iris; Savitar is a paradox, as he said, he cannot exist if the Flash exists at the same time in the future, alas why he fighted him in that time and was trapped in the speed force. I'm pretty sure by now that the introduction of Black Flash in legends of tomorrow was for something, I think that because Savitar is a paradox the same way the Reverse Flash is in LOT, the only way to defeat him is getting him caught by the Black Flash and getting effectively erased from the timeline.
no whats obvious is that savitar is wally
Nilead Yebprani savitar is savitar almost every theory has been shot down the last theory that Cisco is Savitar is the only onr that holds water
When u ask why the flash can't see kid flash in the future, it's cuz they're not physically there, it's just their minds... hence their bodies still being at star labs
"Those are the BIGGEST coffee cups I've ever seen."
You should go to New York, lmao.
Even though they said Caitlin betrayed the team, I feel like it was Wally because he gave Savitar what he wanted but he was only trying to help. Caitlin was actually the reason why Savitar wasn't freed.
Raven's eye exactly wasn't the fact that Caitlin had a piece of the stone the reason savitar couldn't return ?
Raven's eye nah it's caitlyn fault
coleworld2_6 Fayettenam Explain your reason.
Raven's eye she kept the part of stone for her own needs
coleworld2_6 Fayettenam Yeah But her keeping it was the reason Savitar was still trapped in the speed force.
I liked that there following the comics to a certain degree. Wally being trapped in the speedforce like in New 52 and returning in Rebirth. Especially, Savitar being released as well. Also, I'm hoping Wally comes back with the silver and red suit 😁.
Jesse L. Martin is so fucking good. Made me tear up at the end.
So did Savitar get slower or did Barry get faster?
Leaked Movie Stuff both. Team flash has been training a lot so I guess his speed is getting better. And Savitar was trapped in the speed force for eternity for him. So he's probably rusty.
Leaked Movie Stuff neither, the plot demanded them to be close to the same speed
Emotion can do a lot of things, when Barry is truly angry and careless, he is the fastest man alive
savitar is no more in the speed force he is now just a man i.e why he is was slower
Savitar was simply holding back against Barry. Savitar said himself that he needs Barry to be alive until he can see how Iris dies.
the flash cant see kid flash at 6:04 because wally and cisco didnt actually go into the future.. he only vibed to that moment.. its not reality its just a perception of one reality that they can go into and assess, pretty obvious when you stop and just think about it maybe..
also, jesse calls herself jesse quick.. she said it pretty early in the season when she first got her powers and came to earth one
I think it is because the Flash that is watching everything go down is actually physically there until Jay Garrick pulls him back into the speedforce. Cisco and Wally are just observers outside of that space. Like watching a movie.
Wally is always getting stuck in the speed force if you didn't see it coming sooner or later your not a flash fan I'm also sick of Caitlin getting a pass for doing stupid stuff the whole killer frost being a split personality thing is annoying just because she has powers doesn't mean she is becoming killer frost
i think they are basically making Caitlin like magenta(the meta from earlier in the season) a meta who is timid and bottles their emotions and hence creates a split personality that takes over.its a bit cliche really and yeah she shouldn't get a pass for doin dumb shit.
"Salvitar, the fastest god of live"
ahahahaha
I'm really happy to see all these speedsters in live action. I'm so excited to see my boy Bart Allen in the near future! He's my fav speedster in the comics because of his story.
wally got that fresh taper fade
the new 52 reverse flash black and red suit is Daniel West not Savitar or Godspeed
"The wrapth of salvitar, the fastest god of live"
Oh dear god im out of here
???
The wrath of savitiar, the fastest god alive
Burgerwolf Brown dudeee go to 1:16
LOL.Though I think that he said, "fastest god alive".
LMFAOOO
Lol. I really think Akasan should go back to the US again for a few years. Being away from home that long seems to mess up the grammar and makes forming words difficult.
As much as a DC fan Akasan is, he gets a lot of stuff mixed up and wrong.
Aconn1997 it's happens
😂😂😂 Gasssh. I'm tearing my hair out here lol. Mixing up Linda Park with Iris West. Calling New 52 Reverse Flash (Daniel West) God Speed lol Like one is Red and Black the other is Gold and White... Come on my brother! Salvitar instead of Savitar. Oh Akasan. Keep shinning brother! 😂
SOG323 I face palmed so hard when he was calling Solivar Savitar.
+Aconn1997 We should ban DCsan from leaving whenever Akasan is doing one of these lol. Seriously though, I understand that not every fan knows or has ready all the stories.
Godspeed is yellow and white the Black and Red was Daniel West. Hopefully Wally gets his Silver and Red suit...but I don't think he's coming back this season tbh cause he wasn't in the future when Iris died.
Akasan Wally West marries Linda Park in the comics, who in Season 2 was the Earth-1 counterpart of Earth-2's Doctor Light, and who Barry dated in Season 1.
I said the same shit poor wally crying for help and Barry didn't even take 2 steps lol
Wally: "HELP ME BARRY!!!"
Barry: afk lmao
Godspeed is only in Rebirth I think, the New 52 Red and Black Flash was Daniel West.
Wally: BARRY HELP ME!
Barry: I got you Wally. YEET!
the title says "The WRAITH of Savitar" not "Wrath"
Akasan the reason the other Barry couldn't see Wally (or Cisco) was that they were vibing. They actually weren't there
Savitar is Eddie. Rule of DC Comics- if theres no body, they are not dead. Which means Ronnie, Snart, and Eddie are alive. I think its eddie cause of how he mentions Iris and Barry (jealous). He also knew everyone. He said Fake Wells maybe cause he thought it was still Thawne, or cause he already knew that Earth-1 Wells is dead. Plus, why would he say reverse flash's real name, Thawne, but not Zoom. Looks like savitar/eddie caught up on what he missed. Thats why he said "Zoom"
Akasan "the other Flash"(the one that went there after throwing the stone into the speed force)is in the future for real, Cisco and Wally are in a Vibe vision. That's why "the other Flash" can't see Wally. And the Flash from that future is busy dealing with Savitar.
Akasan The reason that the barry that went to the future couldnt see Wally because that flash time traveled and is physically there but Wally is vibing with Cisco
oh yes been waiting to see u watch this akasan
why tf did barry just stand there
He literally let him go. Didn't even take a single step forward. What kinda hero does that man especially when it's someone who's supposed to be your damn sidekick
Because otherwise Barry would've been sucked into the speed force as well and he wasn't sure if he got stuck there again. If he would've been stuck as well there would be no one to save Iris because Jesse is not capable of doing it.
Striking Top 10 highly doubt a person can simply just stop someone from getting pulled into the speedforce
That's not the point. The point is, as a hero, he didn't even at least try to take a step forward. In the comic, Barry at least threw a hand out for him. And if it were Iris, would he have also just stood there just because he knew he couldn't save her? He moved when Savitar stabbed her...
Even if Barry did try to do something, there was no helping him at that point. He threw the piece that Savitar needed into the speed force allowing them to trade places. Nothing he could do, the moment Wally did that he was fucked.
The Flash that's watching the scene can't see Wally because technically, we have to see it from the point of view of Wally.
Everything is a vibe, it's like wally is watching a movie. The Flash (from episode 3x09) was really there.
Cisco and Wally are not, they are just watching like a sort of illusion.
That's why the Flash (3x09] isn't seeing Wally and CIsco.
It's like a VR Scene for wally and cisco haha
So supposedly Savitar has been in the speed force all this time but isn't the speed force yellow?? I mean if you remember when Barry got stuck in the speed force it was yellow not white/blue. So what if Savitar was stuck in the negative speed force or something like that??
Ever notice how much Grant Gustin sounds like a young Keanu Reeves, especially in the opening monologue?
Akasan's fucking zoom ins are hilarious as hell!
10:43 Yeah, he's gonna come out from Speedforce as Savitar ;)
CarlosVendera nah man. Savitar is totally future Barry. He can't kill Barry because that would mean he couldn't exist. He also needs him to see Iris die so he becomes savitar. When Barry asks him who he is his response is always: "I am the future" as in he's Barry's future.
I like this theory too. IMO it's like 50/50 between Barry and Wally at this point.
btw. didn't Savitar say that he will kill Flash, just not right now?
Guys, this is what I think is going to happen this season.
Mind you: this is only my speculation.
Savitar keeps saying he is the Future Flash. Not Future, Flash but Future Flash. Iris' death transformed Barry into Savitar. Like in the comics, Flash in the future had a blue suit and blue/white lightning. Future Barry became like that because of Iris' death.
Wally is will force his way out of the SpeedForce being way, way faster than before and he will have a new suit. Namely, the silver and black suit. And he will mess Savitar up.
And we all know CW has its own and different take when it comes to the Flash. It is plausible that this will happen. This is what I think and HOPE will happen this season.
barry just sat there with his thumb in his mouth watching wally die lol
the black and red is what zoom turned into
getting the vibe that barry didn't trap him in the future, he is barry in the future blue flash barry he blames himself for letting something happen so he is trying to recreate himself earlier than he originally did so that he is willing to kill whatever it is that barry failed to beat the first time
The other Barry in the vibe of the future time traveled there he was in that moment while vibe and kid flash can only see and watch that moment
XxQueen MelaniexX tbh I think I kinda ruined Flash for me BUT I think Savitar is POSSIBLE SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS AHEAD
Future Flash himself! Why you ask? First of all every motive he has would fit into Future Flash's character "you took everything from me" every loss Barry has suffered until now and beyond. He knows so much about the whole crew. How? Well if he's Barry then he obviously knows everything about them. Savitar & Future Flash both have blueish designs :D I mean why else did CW chose to design him differently for The Flash if not considering how 80s his design was? If they wanna hide his face and how do they keep the viewers away from thinking about who he is? By giving him a sick metall suit👍🏼 And there always has been this sentence in Savitars monologues: "I am the future flash" Now one could either read it as "I am the future, Flash!" OR "I am the Future Flash!" The CW could pull of the reveal on this pun easily in the last episode or so...But my theory has big flaws, I know. Savitar said "You trapped me in the Speedforce" Does this mean another version of Barry from either future or past did this or even from another Earth? And because of all the writing I forgot the second one xD sry, what do you guys think?
So I'm guessing Caitlin revealing that she will be the one 2 betray team flash means we will get 100% Killer Frost sooner rather than later on Earth 1.
"I am the Future,Flash" - Savitar said it before this episode,like 2-3
times,but now he says it multiple times in one episode and people go
crazy..it's time to stop,Barry is not Savitar..open your eyes,it's
Wally..ONLY PERSON TO CALL WALLY - WALLACE IS HR AND SAVITAR...and
Savitar even said,the Coward(hr) survived his Wrath..why ? Because Wally
spared him..
Someone Told me Savitar is Future Flash when he went "Missing"
the black and red suit guy is Daniel West
wouldn't it be better, if Barry run into portal,running to save Wally ,and Savitar suddenly appeared and grabbed Barry from his head and went out of portal tossed Barry a wall?
Hey guys.. Did Flash in the comics had some fighting training ?
Cuz in this show.. he just knows how to fight without showing any fighting training (when he was training he was doing just run stuff.. same as Wally now)
Sorry but I really want a Flash like the one from the first Injustice 2 reveal.. That character was kicking ass in a bad-ass way! (even versus Superman)
I hope Batfleck will train Ezra s Flash to fight like that
What if... The future comes in(where savitar kills iris) and the barry that travel to the future helps his future self and by this, he would be like his "time remnant", and that could change everything.
or like a lot of flashes help "the flash"
I know this hurts your brain lol
Here is a Question of the Video: Do you think Wally will come out of the Speed Force this season? And if so, do you think he will have the yellow suit or his silver suit?
Blade GTR i think it will be the end of season cliff hanger
wallys gonna come out the speedforce with his new 52 suit ;)
When Savitair's identity is revealed I can guarantee no one will view Barry the same ever again.
Also the more he says I am the future, Flash the more I'm starting to think what he's really saying is "I'm the FUTURE Flash.
Wether that means his future self or someone who took up the mantle I don't know.
Also you really think the Speed Force is going to be up for a chat thanks to everything Barry has done in this season?
Sal Vitar..great guy. Use to sell deli in the North End. A solid "eye"talian
Hahahha when savitar crawls out I exactly said like you did "FUCK"
That was the new 52 reverse flash Daniel west you were thinking of akasan
18:18 that's the new 52 reverse flash "Daniel West"
For some reason the last line Barry says "Fear is the Reason for all this" to me he sounded like Savitar just not as deep of a voice. Is that just me? Cause I am starting to wonder if Barry is Savitar. I mean he keeps saying "I am the Future Flash". Maybe a crazy thought but I don't know I could see some weird twist like that
The other Flash couldn't see them because he was actually there while Kid Flash was vibed.
Akasan, being in the Speedforce is not a good thing, it drives everyone insane,that is what happened with the Reverse Flash, he got crazy after spending months in the Speed Force!
6:48 "wut"
*cuts to him fixing a cross bow*
''I created myself''
''you thought it was reverse flash, zoom, but it was always me''
''only i can bring out my greatness''
''every step you take brings you closer to me''
''theres only one thing i need''
''you still have to watch Iris die''
''reverb told you you could be a god cisco''[savitar wasn't there]
''you're a good guy the boy Joe raised the man Iris loves''
''I am the future''
do those sentences sound weird to say or is it just Barry
There were two wally west from Young Justice and The Flash. One of them was trap on the speed force. I have theory about savitar I think he is the future flash because I saw on the comics The Flash "Out of Time" and "The End of the Road" Barry becomes the blue flash look at savitar lighting speed it is blue.
Genesis Deinla it's white,not blue
Genesis Deinla bruh be real savitar is his own character no way in life would Barry be him u need to read the og comics ma boy
Yeah but CW changes allot.Just compare CW zoom with comics zoom.2 different characters.
Nickholas Gomez savitar is a real character IN THE COMICS. Future Barry might be called savitar in the show
Raziel132 they reversed zoom and savitar in terms of story
"Only one of us can live"
"I am the future, flash" OOOORR "I am the future flash"
Mirko Žaja exactly. Iris death = Barry becoming savitar. "Trust me. You'll *never* get over this"
The present day Flash couldn't see Wally and Cisco because they were vibed to the future, they didn't actually go there physically.
Man I love they gave Savitar a proper suit...hated the CGI
Wow....Barry's movement was different when he was holding Savitar's hand and trying to unmask him...anyone else notice that????
I need a proper Savitar origins episode....
Trevor Price savitar = future Barry is my bet
he can't see kid Flash because Wally wasn't really there. he's just seeing an image. Both Barry's are actually there
Akasan.. I did like the "dickish" Barry.. but just because he's losing his shit over the thought of losing Iris.. and as a woman, I actually love that coz he'll do anything for her.. and I love Iris more for guiding him not to lose who he is as a hero, even if it means her death. I don't think he's hypocritical.. I don't read the comics but what this show has made Barry to be, he's always had tunnel vision when it comes to those people he loves and cares about. So he reacts instinctively to keep those people safe. But he does check himself when he does something that results into something bad.. ex. leaving his happiness in the alternate timeline with his parents to save Wally's life in 3x01. Barry is good at carrying the guilt of the world on his shoulders and even at his dickish moments, he's still as selfless as ever. He's basically just human after all and a hero that is still learning and growing.
At your other point, I'm with Iris regarding their engagement... they are an iconic couple but like Joe said, their love should be simple.. an engagement borne out of fear is tainted, as Iris have said. So yes this angst for their relationship is appropriate but hopefully the writers won't F! It up like they did with Olicity 🙄.. as always I enjoy your reactions.. till next time
Was it ever explained how reverse flash made his eyes red. Colored contacts?
He Akasan the reason why the other Flash can't see Wally is because he isn't actually there. He isn't in the future he's just watching it.
I am starting to like this Savitar more and more
He looks savage and bad-ass! I really liked Zoom s look.. but Savitar looks cool too haha
What if Wally saves Iris by coming out of the speed force for a few seconds like Savitar does in this episode?
Love the cohesiveness of the whole season like everything that's happened all season long is Barry's fault . it's a good take on the show and does make a point that Barry's been the villain the whole time. Great long-term storytelling and hopefully it teaches him a lesson not to screw with anything time related from here on out. but then again it is a TV show so who knows.
They should have put savtar's box thing in a black hole in another universe or in a sun.
Could you upload your reaction to Legends of Tomorrow? It was really good this week
she is "Jesse Quick", a long time DC character.
she won't die anymore sativar has no blade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have a feeling that savitar is the flash that dissappeared from the future
The scene where Barry watches Wally get sucked into the speed force just reminds me of the scene from The Lion King where Mufasa begs Scar to help him on the cliff and instead he says "Long live the king." and pushes him off. Seriously Barry stands a good 20 feet away and watches Wally reach his hand out to him and he does nothing.
nawleansmanbeast So you're just going to dive in and help Wally even though you don't know how the speed force works and then get maybe get sucked in as well
Israel Padilla Wally is reaching his hand out for Barry to pull him back but Barry does nothing and just watches. He also just watches Savitar slowly crawl out. He didn't try and pull Wally out or push Savitar back in. Why was he even there?!
nawleansmanbeast I mean they don't know how the speed force works so for all we know he could've been pulled in as well and then I mean if you saw something crawling out of a portal or something else you woudknt just push it back, you would either run away or just stay there and see what it is, it is human nature lol and plus how do you know that if Barry did grab wallys hand it woudknt have disintegrated?
there was nothing he could do the speed force is to strong to just pull someone out like that.
i hope savitar is from the past like a Greek who received speed powers
could it be as simple as HR being savatir? just be him calling wally , Wallace