That very last note he sings 3:04 going through the last two open chords is just wonderful. I heard this song for the first time a week ago. Listened to it tons of times. Learnt it on guitar and now realizing that some notes Morrisey is singing are quite dissonant in order to make melodies and harmony more complex, makes me value this band each time more.. He had a really peculiar, unusual sense of music such as Marr sense of rhythm. So melancholic and gloomy. Just love it
THE SMITHS are the oxygen at my lungs! the veins and arteries in my blood! the essence of my soul! the reason I keep on living! LONG LIVE THE SMITHS!!!!!!!!!! the best band ever walked on the face of planet earth. period.
Wow!! A rare Smiths track indeed and possibly the only footage of them doing this song, fantastic stuff and pretty damn good quality. How many bands in their infancy could ever hope to sound that good live??
So glad someone has this. Wonderful Woman was the first smiths track I ever had (taped from the radio 1 Kid Jensen session - aired just before this gig and the best version for my money). By the time I got to see them for the first time (oct 83), they had dropped it from the set - and never played it again live (to my knowledge). It was always a hope, but the 17 times I saw them the buggers never once played it! I was always gutted. But so good to see this gig and this song here. Priceless!
Sublime. This is one of the earliest videos you will see of The Smiths. I wonder if Morrissey had any inkling of the important contribution he would make to music in the decades ahead. I did.
Im 50 now & was a RELIGIOUS Smiths " fan in the 80s , had all there vinyl , but it wasent till 1996 that i bought a bootleg seethrough vinyl and i heard this for the 1st Time & It was like a Gift from GOD !!! It basically Was a Track that Should have been on the 1st : Smiths "" album , That Absolute Haunting Meloncholic , Hopeless Romantic sound , that No band have ever captured since !!! A True MASTERPIECE From Morissey & Marr !!!! ❤❤❤❤
Astonishing song. Also Jeane. The hopelessness of forlorn love, straight out of the working class sadness of early 80s bedsits, turned into romantic beauty. It's poetry and its genius
Let's talk about why I love love love this song. First things first, the chords. There is so much flitting between sixth chords and fifth chords in the intro, creating a sense of joy and heating up to me, conflicting with the emotionally cooler minor chord. whenever I hear this song, I picture two people in bed together, kind of sheltered from the world, so that's why I enjoy the bursts of major chords throughout this minor key songs that act like pockets of energy. now lets talk about that chorus that absolutely intoxicates me on a good day. it's just melancholic moaning sounds really. again, the flitting between minor and major chords. makes it sound like something on life is coming together despite a sense of melancholy in the world around
I love this song -- utterly beautiful, sorrowful -- this pain in his voice,he suffers--which can only Mozz sing so,it drives me start crying!!!!! Great!! Thanks for posting!
Like The Beatles they managed to transcend the styles of the day and become a benchmark for musicianship. No, they didn't develop like The Beatles but we were all left wanting more of what they did.
Part of me longs for more albums and who knows what we would have got if they had continued on EMI. But another part of me is glad we just have those Rough Trade releases from that special period.
andy wrote ALL the bass lines, the whole "writing rights" thing is based on the fact that legally the smiths were defined as "morrissey/marr" in the contracts and all the songs were credited that way (plus marr and moz wrote songs together as a duo for almost a year prior to the band forming), but andy and mike wrote their parts. Morrissey and Marr both have credited andy in later interviews saying that his bass playing sealed their success.
never before, never again... but it's one of those songs that make you wish all other songs were this emotive, genuine, and endearing-thank god for 'repeat' .
This band is a real and pure treasure among all the bullshit and crap....... both in music and in life!!!!! because their music is the real thing, even better than the real thing!!!!!
There is less art, more matter in what Morrissey says. That's why they jerked the volume up 50 % compared to other bands. It's like he's reading his diary out loud, put to the most beautiful music imaginable. Even if you can't relate to everything Moz has experienced, like all great art you still enjoy listening to it. Just the heartfeltness of his voice is enough. However, it doesn't hurt that most things he sings about are clear and easy to grasp.
This is absolutely brilliant. To be playing this great, folk-style, sorrowful sound in the Hacienda of all places--the stomping ground of New Order and the rave scene. New Order's "Blue Monday" was an enormous hit in 1982-1983, the dance anthem of Manchester arguably. It is so fantastic to see The Smiths opting to do something so entirely different, and so beautiful! I wish this song had had a wider release. Thanks for posting gem!!
Andy's treble stabs were always timed just right, as opposed to the more traditional bass lines we hear from songs like Rusholme Ruffians he also shared this ability. My favorite bass player for sure. Once I wrote to him around 2009 or so online. He told me to have fun playing the bass and walking my golden retriever. I can't believe he's gone, Heaven knows I'm miserable now was the song that really made me want to learn how to play his instrument. I play a lot of Smiths songs on guitar from youtube guitar lessons, best band
This song (this performance more specifically) makes me feel so much pain... not bad pain, but whenever Morrissey moans the chorus it almost feels like this catharsis of emotion, and its just so in sync with the music... idk man
I think you're right about the Ritz. The first gig at the Hacienda was December 82 (this July 83 gig was the second one there). The 82 gig featured the version of Handsome Devil that's the B-side of Hand in Glove. They also played "What do you see in him?" at that gig which is the first version of Wonderful Woman. I have a mixing desk copy of the gig. They were very raw back then - but still excellent!
amazing song! well underated. i have a studio verision wich isnt found on there mainstream albums, but on a bootleg album called 'hand that rocks the cradle ' a compilation of rare smiths tracks both live and studio
The Smiths just have such replay value.. actually replay value is to weak of a term IMO... its that feeling of Rediscovering songs by them you have heard Countless times and falling in love with it all over again.. like a Wonderful Women that never gets old or boring... and i think ive met one...
i seen them 9 times first time dec 83 trinity college dublin last time fairways dundalk 86 at the gig in RAH also then again if i lived in England i think i would have seen em 109 times ur a cool dude man bye and its such a beautiful tune isnt it
That 'mixing desk copy' is called Handsome Devils. It was their third performance ever. Indeed very good, but they were playing very low (and because of that Morrissey sounds a bit frightening), I think Marr didn't tuned his guitar up already at that gig. Also I think it is in What Difference Does It Make, there is a second voice next to Moz', I think it's Marr (it sounds awful). That LP/Bootleg is some great time-document.
I like how certain singers have that "just got out of bed" look - Kurt Cobain had that look as well. it's so far removed and refreshing from the overkill hyper fashion pop machine these days.
Dermot - Good man! We share a gig! I was at Dundalk too! The June Brides supported (I was a big fan of them too). So I always remember that gig as being double good - my two favourites together! Also came away with a bit of Morrisey's shirt. And yes - a beautiful song!
Anybody agree with me that this is probably The Smiths most underrated song?
yup, i agree
Without a doubt
Yes
and "jeane"
@@joacoFrog I always felt like this song and Jeane were the same song, just faster
Such an underrated track
hearing it for the first time, just loving that lyrics 💓
The sadness of this song is art.
this song is art
Wish I could know the true story behind this beautiful song, Morrissey is so genuine here and you can feel how sad he is singing this song!
He sings about his gay relationship with Johnny
@@bluesatmosphere4659 what
@@Chikoboyfernandez225 nah that was Hand In glove, morrisey is the original gender and gay stuff pioneer
@@bluesatmosphere4659this was about a girl he liked when he was younger
i dont think so@@barkley8285
only the smiths could compose a song where the whole chorus is only melancholic moaning
Shana haha true
A love song, actually
Melancholic moaning in such a ❤️ beautiful way 😘😘😘
hell yeah
And that shit is fire 🔥
i hear pain in his voice.. it makes this song pure gold
Maybe the best band ever ... The most melodic for sure
Eliot Boisteau the best band of the 80’s yes, ever? They would admit not.
@@Nobody-sb6trthen why don’t you name the best band?
@@basketballadigonzalez5561Ever, that would obviously be The Beatles.
@@Nobody-qh7hk do you have a reason ? Musically they’re not all that, mostly simple sounding songs
That very last note he sings 3:04 going through the last two open chords is just wonderful. I heard this song for the first time a week ago. Listened to it tons of times. Learnt it on guitar and now realizing that some notes Morrisey is singing are quite dissonant in order to make melodies and harmony more complex, makes me value this band each time more.. He had a really peculiar, unusual sense of music such as Marr sense of rhythm. So melancholic and gloomy. Just love it
oh my gosh yes!! i agree i love this part too.
Andy's bass is incredible here. Rest in peace buddy. Still missed.
THE SMITHS are the oxygen at my lungs! the veins and arteries in my blood! the essence of my soul! the reason I keep on living! LONG LIVE THE SMITHS!!!!!!!!!! the best band ever walked on the face of planet earth. period.
Johnny's guitar is simply mesmerizing!
You too can learn it! I did and I’m very glad I gave it a shot, it’s hella fun to play
@@dylan_1884 how did you learn it?
They were The Smiths!!! . There will never be a band like this ever again :(
Worst of all, it's a band that can come back because all its members still live, but it seems it is not possible.
Just like The Police, the same case 😕 I would love to see both bands live, but it's impossible! 😥
Amamos a estos Smiths... Creeme que nada bueno resultaría de una reunión. Quedemonos con esta onírica imagen de ellos 😉😍
Welp
Not anymore
Mike Joyce hate Morrissey too much.
Ice water for blood, with neither heart nor spine.....
Wow!! A rare Smiths track indeed and possibly the only footage of them doing this song, fantastic stuff and pretty damn good quality.
How many bands in their infancy could ever hope to sound that good live??
So glad someone has this. Wonderful Woman was the first smiths track I ever had (taped from the radio 1 Kid Jensen session - aired just before this gig and the best version for my money).
By the time I got to see them for the first time (oct 83), they had dropped it from the set - and never played it again live (to my knowledge).
It was always a hope, but the 17 times I saw them the buggers never once played it! I was always gutted. But so good to see this gig and this song here. Priceless!
What a pity that version wasn't included on Hatful of Hollow
You saw them 17 times?!
Been a fan since 82 and this is the first time I have listened to this ... fantastic.
It took me a long time to hear this and what a shame there are no unreleased gems out there
He means the entire world to me
A jaw droppingly naked performance of a rear rarity. They truly were one on a kind.. 🎶🌷🖤
real not rear-that was hand in glove! 🧤😆
Sublime.
This is one of the earliest videos you will see of The Smiths. I wonder if Morrissey had any inkling of the important contribution he would make to music in the decades ahead. I did.
Im 50 now & was a RELIGIOUS Smiths " fan in the 80s , had all there vinyl , but it wasent till 1996 that i bought a bootleg seethrough vinyl and i heard this for the 1st Time & It was like a Gift from GOD !!! It basically Was a Track that Should have been on the 1st : Smiths "" album , That Absolute Haunting Meloncholic , Hopeless Romantic sound , that No band have ever captured since !!!
A True MASTERPIECE From Morissey & Marr !!!! ❤❤❤❤
Probably their most melodic song I love it
The Smiths took maudlin to a new level and the clumsy and shy teenagers loved it and felt comforted with these songs that saved our lives back then.
That is the TRUTH ❤
There’s something about his voice that makes me fall in love over and over again .
Astonishing song. Also Jeane. The hopelessness of forlorn love, straight out of the working class sadness of early 80s bedsits, turned into romantic beauty. It's poetry and its genius
Real
The Smiths B sides were better than anything else churned out in the 80s.
There are some real gems hidden on the 12" singles.
Beautiful. May Andy rest in peace. No one can hold a candle to The Smiths.
Dublin 12 ☘️
Simply Britain's finest band !!
the smiths are the best.
Let's talk about why I love love love this song.
First things first, the chords. There is so much flitting between sixth chords and fifth chords in the intro, creating a sense of joy and heating up to me, conflicting with the emotionally cooler minor chord.
whenever I hear this song, I picture two people in bed together, kind of sheltered from the world, so that's why I enjoy the bursts of major chords throughout this minor key songs that act like pockets of energy.
now lets talk about that chorus that absolutely intoxicates me on a good day. it's just melancholic moaning sounds really. again, the flitting between minor and major chords. makes it sound like something on life is coming together despite a sense of melancholy in the world around
I love this song -- utterly beautiful, sorrowful -- this pain in his voice,he suffers--which can only Mozz sing so,it drives me start crying!!!!! Great!! Thanks for posting!
Like The Beatles they managed to transcend the styles of the day and become a benchmark for musicianship. No, they didn't develop like The Beatles but we were all left wanting more of what they did.
Part of me longs for more albums and who knows what we would have got if they had continued on EMI. But another part of me is glad we just have those Rough Trade releases from that special period.
andy wrote ALL the bass lines, the whole "writing rights" thing is based on the fact that legally the smiths were defined as "morrissey/marr" in the contracts and all the songs were credited that way (plus marr and moz wrote songs together as a duo for almost a year prior to the band forming), but andy and mike wrote their parts. Morrissey and Marr both have credited andy in later interviews saying that his bass playing sealed their success.
how could you need anything more than this?
This is probably the best popsong I have ever heard
One of my favourite songs now.
I am spanish and I have been listening to the smiths songs for 17 years man 17 years !!!!! and I am 33, they were my fav bad now and then .
At the time, I had this song recorded on a tape, studio version. I was lucky! Loved it ever since.
genera28 that’s really cool actually. How the heck did you get that lol
THE SMITHS songNameWonderful WomanAlbum/singleThis Charming ManLength3:07 (Single version)
3:04 (Jensen Session)
3:20 (Troy Tate studio)
3:18 (Troy Tate outtake)Writer/composerMorrissey / Johnny MarrProducerJohn Porter (Single version)
Dale Griffin (Jensen Session)
Troy Tate (Troy Tate studio & outtake)
ReleaseOctober 1983RecordedSeptember 1983
Incredible.Just brilliant.
Oh Manchester, so much to answer for...
never before, never again... but it's one of those songs that make you wish all other songs were this emotive, genuine, and endearing-thank god for 'repeat' .
This band is a real and pure treasure among all the bullshit and crap....... both in music and in life!!!!! because their music is the real thing, even better than the real thing!!!!!
This song is painfully and hauntingly beautiful, oh Morrissey:/
Raw performance of a genuine artist...goes far beyond the
neo-classical post-punk genre.
I had this on repeat during quarantine
same
There is less art, more matter in what Morrissey says. That's why they jerked the volume up 50 % compared to other bands. It's like he's reading his diary out loud, put to the most beautiful music imaginable. Even if you can't relate to everything Moz has experienced, like all great art you still enjoy listening to it. Just the heartfeltness of his voice is enough. However, it doesn't hurt that most things he sings about are clear and easy to grasp.
Perfect performance.
This is absolutely brilliant. To be playing this great, folk-style, sorrowful sound in the Hacienda of all places--the stomping ground of New Order and the rave scene. New Order's "Blue Monday" was an enormous hit in 1982-1983, the dance anthem of Manchester arguably. It is so fantastic to see The Smiths opting to do something so entirely different, and so beautiful! I wish this song had had a wider release. Thanks for posting gem!!
I was there, a hopeless 16 yr old, changed my life
The bass is amazing.
Andy's treble stabs were always timed just right, as opposed to the more traditional bass lines we hear from songs like Rusholme Ruffians he also shared this ability. My favorite bass player for sure. Once I wrote to him around 2009 or so online. He told me to have fun playing the bass and walking my golden retriever. I can't believe he's gone, Heaven knows I'm miserable now was the song that really made me want to learn how to play his instrument. I play a lot of Smiths songs on guitar from youtube guitar lessons, best band
The smiths are the BEST band ever!!!
This song (this performance more specifically) makes me feel so much pain... not bad pain, but whenever Morrissey moans the chorus it almost feels like this catharsis of emotion, and its just so in sync with the music... idk man
beautiful
The crowd is either blown away or completely bored. They're just standing there. Lol
I'm sure they were trying to figure it out, it was 1983 and The Smiths were fairly a new band
Marr's guitar melody on this made me realise he is actually Bach
He is much better than Bach
and Moz is the best poet after wilde
Funny association. My two favourite composers. Yes, Marr is #1, Bach a close second.
Great song, fantastic rendition, thanks!
you eloquently put the longing into words. smiths forever in my heart and under my pillow...yours too it seems
I love them so much, a band that changes lives
art
what a coincidence, we both like ecco2k
Thank you so much for posting this! I agree this is one of the best Smiths songs. This was the kind of b-sides the Smiths put out in 1983. Pure class.
I love this song. Utterly adore it.
"Sketch for summer" is the best instrumental ever written period, the struggle continues and always will mate
killin as usual
Eu amo essa música 💙
Amamos🤌
Thanks for posting...great stuff...keep it coming, long live the Smiths!
he's so cute..
I agree, pure genius - their early stuff was the best of the lot!
I'm looking for more Wonderful Woman in live :( anyone??
best Band ever 👌
so want this song for my wedding 😞🙏🏼
The best band, for sure 🖤
Fantastic lyrics...
I Love you tube! without it these vids would be gone forever.Its nice to see a whole new generation appreciating the smiths.
Andy Rourke is a bass god...
The Smiths in the 80s were what The Beatles were in the 60s. No doubt about it, they were just that impactful to music as a whole.
I think you're right about the Ritz. The first gig at the Hacienda was December 82 (this July 83 gig was the second one there). The 82 gig featured the version of Handsome Devil that's the B-side of Hand in Glove. They also played "What do you see in him?" at that gig which is the first version of Wonderful Woman. I have a mixing desk copy of the gig. They were very raw back then - but still excellent!
THE best....
"Ooh! But when she calls me I do not walk, i run..."
amazing song! well underated. i have a studio verision wich isnt found on there mainstream albums, but on a bootleg album called 'hand that rocks the cradle ' a compilation of rare smiths tracks both live and studio
I have that bootleg somewhere??
Yes pure class !!!!!!!!!
This was the best line up ever,
listen to those guitars and drums!
please reform just for us, xx
Wow!
The Smiths just have such replay value.. actually replay value is to weak of a term IMO... its that feeling of Rediscovering songs by them you have heard Countless times and falling in love with it all over again.. like a Wonderful Women that never gets old or boring... and i think ive met one...
Spot on. I couldn't have put it better.
i seen them 9 times first time dec 83 trinity college dublin last time fairways dundalk 86 at the gig in RAH also then again if i lived in England i think i would have seen em 109 times ur a cool dude man bye and its such a beautiful tune isnt it
I cannot wait for the day Lord calls Me and I cannot walk to *Him* -I run to *Him* 💚🙏👑🤗😋🥰👑🌻💗!!!
Wow! Thanks dude! I didn't know they played this live! Thanks so much for posting!
There is noone like the Smiths!
for sure, it's amazing
This is THE SMITHS!!!!
I can't understand why this song was never released on an album in the U.S.
yeah, this and jeanne are well their best songs i reckon
for the best girl girl ever...she is in zagreb and I'm not there by her side :(((((
Andy Rourke 🔥
That 'mixing desk copy' is called Handsome Devils.
It was their third performance ever. Indeed very good, but they were playing very low (and because of that Morrissey sounds a bit frightening), I think Marr didn't tuned his guitar up already at that gig.
Also I think it is in What Difference Does It Make, there is a second voice next to Moz', I think it's Marr (it sounds awful).
That LP/Bootleg is some great time-document.
It is! He's also on The Hand That Rocks The Cradle. Spooky as hell
ooooooohhhh aaaaahhhh
Why oh why was Moz so very pretty
Andy my love ur one hell of a bass player, & no1 fucking no1 can take that away from u. Rourke & Hook the best bass players of all times.
So good...
I like how certain singers have that "just got out of bed" look - Kurt Cobain had that look as well. it's so far removed and refreshing from the overkill hyper fashion pop machine these days.
perfeito igualzinho a musica !!!amo!!!*-*
Dermot - Good man! We share a gig! I was at Dundalk too! The June Brides supported (I was a big fan of them too). So I always remember that gig as being double good - my two favourites together! Also came away with a bit of Morrisey's shirt. And yes - a beautiful song!
Wait, you got his shirt?