@@CertainlyCynical i only noticed it the second time watching the series, but Jinx's line at the end of the show hits me so much harder now when I think of how she might have held onto Vi's words all this time.
People often overlook the parallels between these lines. This shaped Powder/Jinx's ideology. People want to say "Silco made her that way," but she always, always, always wanted to be strong more than anything else. Strong so she could support Vi, then strong so she could support Silco. Her strength came from her proclivity for violence and her gadgets, both as a child and later as Jinx. Unfortunately, she had not learned how to get her gadgets to work yet, and she was still too afraid to get up close and personal in violence (preferring to set bombs while staying hidden). What people consider Silco's "manipulation" is him simply being willing to do the one thing Vi never could: Embrace what makes her different.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 you know l felt that when l watched episode 1 ...in one of the bombs that didnt work she'd put nails...nails in that thing, if they'd worked she could have killed the guy and even seriously hurt friends . Then additionally she's good at shooting , if she grew good at it what would she have been shooting? tranquilizers? maybe tranqs could have been an option but to be truthful theres very small margin for what would have been good or bad for a child who didnt grow up around pacifists and instead aspired to be as good as fighters when her physic and talents lay elsewhere.Say if she was a bomb and shooting prone kid who grew up with the adult ekko then her ideas and examples would be in those smoke bombs and those bombs that crystalized and immobilised __ As she was already powder was set up on a narrow path that any small things could have derailed her,she was the kind of "different" that needed attention and naturing but unfortunately Vi was also a kid and thier brothers' insecurities played on Jinxes' and complimented them too well and their life was too stressful for her sensitivity but then again maybe she got to be sensetive because she had a sister like Vi in a rough environment ,its a tricky thing but "Jinx" was born maybe at the same time that Powder lost her parents ,its just that possibly if Vi hadnt been kidnapped and she had been with Powder after the incident Jinx wouldnt have been as much a mass killer coz Silcos resources and power enabled the worst of her .No one ever considered that even if Vi had not been taken Powder would still have that guilt and it would have worn at the sisters' relationship.Also Powder's might have actually taken a worser trajectory but l digress
@@returntosoilgumihonow that season 2 is almost over I’d say even if Vi had come back SHE would have had to face what she did head on. Powder/jinx achieved what Vi always secretly wanted. Chaos and destruction of piltover in revenge for everything that happened to Zaun and her parents. Powder/jinx wanted to be a fighter because of Vi. But she also was well aware of Vis rage,hatred, and violent outbursts…… the fact Jinx operates similarly as she grows older isn’t a surprise. She’s trying to make Vi proud still. When she thinks she’s close she realizes Vi has changed and doesn’t love her anymore. It was basically all for nothing. Which is why after everything she basically sees herself as a nobody and doesn’t have any interest in the rebellion or piltover or anything else anymore. On the reverse while with Isha she operates more in line with how she secretly WANTD to be. She actively fights off her demons, try’s to find some peace, wants to keep Isha. Safe. Isha sees that powder/jinx just wants to live in peace, she’s also reckless and actually selfless. Willing to die for friends and family if it came down to it. Isha fulfills that “dream”. Where powder failed to save her friends and family, Isha succeeds with a smile on her face knowing she saved them and has powder/jinx’s love and protection
In Vi's perspective, I absolutely cannot fault her for any of her actions. The stream of trauma might have started was when Vi's and Powder's parents were killed, and this can basically traumatize any children, especially Powder. I believe as the result of this, Powder developed severe abandonment and anxiety issues and was very co-dependent on Vi, the only family Powder was close to. If Vi was gone, Powder would feel like she could not go on living anymore. As you said, Vi was her everything. No one could understand Powder but Vi in this dark, cruel, scary reality that no child could live on their own, physically and mentally. In place of their late mother's, not only Vi is Powder's older sister but Vi acted almost like a mother figure to her sister. Unlike Mylo who repeatedly shunned Powder and brought down her self-esteem, she looked for validation and comfort from her older sister. Vi had always been there for her younger sister and made her feel loved and secure. It's why Powder wanted to "be ready" and go any missions in any way possible with Vi to not feel alone, even it meant she could slow the others down. When Vi, Mylo, and Claggor went off to save Vander, Powder not only felt alone and useless that she might not do anything to help them but was also very panicking of a chance of losing her loved ones again just as they lost their parents. When Powder tried to save them, instead of setting up only one explosion, she was so paranoid that her small plan wouldn't work that she set off all of them just in case. After unknowingly killing her adopted brothers and seeing her older sister standing right there, she expected Vi to be very proud of her "amazing accomplishment," like any innocent child wanted to show off something cool and amazing to their loving parents. But when Powder did not get that and realized that she ruined things in the worst way possible, it was too much for her already-broken mind to process what just had happened. It was also all too much for Vi to take and reacted irrationally. For Powder, all she could think about was not being alone again, her worst fear came to light, desperately begging Vi to not leave her and hoping that she still loved her. At that moment, Vi might have felt like Powder was "ignorant" for "not" wanting to deal with the consequence of her action and did not even seem to apologize for what she did. "Why did YOU leave me?" This caused Vi to smack her younger sister in the face and call her a "jinx" to teach her a lesson out of anger. Vi was someone who Powder loved and looked up to so much, more than anyone in the world. Powder's mental state was destroyed what she once knew about Vi betrayed her and her mind had truly begun to crumble down to madness. Although Powder hated herself and her name, she still would do anything to keep her mind sane and wanted to feel love again, from literally anyone, even from someone like Silco. While I imagined maybe at first Powder did not like to be called "jinx" since it was a traumatic reminder of why and how Vi "abandoned" her, Silco convinced and moulded Powder to embrace her jinx flaws and faced them instead of avoiding them. Instead of pushing away her jinx side, she should embrace it. If she's good at screwing things up, she should be proud of them, and not let Vi's negative words and actions crumble her down. To Jinx, Powder was a weakness and nobody wanted Powder. But someone loved Jinx and accepted Jinx, and that was Silco. Again, Powder/Jinx just wanted to feel loved and be accepted no matter what, not caring if her actions were good or not. For Vi's side, it's unfortunate for her that she could barely grasp Jinx's new identity, only meeting her three times in total for season 1. When the two sisters reunited, things seemed to be going well (before Caitlyn showed up) and this gave Vi hope that she could help Powder/Jinx recover from her trauma. However, Vi was very alarmed by how mentally messed-up and unstable her younger sister truly was after their years of separation. Understandable, Vi was under the impression that Silco took advantage of Jinx's broken state and wanted him to stay away from Powder/Jinx. Vi felt so guilty that she called her own sister a "jinx" and that cursed name forever scared Powder/Jinx. Vi wanted to do everything she could to redeem her action and promised Vander's wish that she would "take care of Powder". Vander's dying breath was wanting Vi to protect Powder. The Powder who Vi remembered a long time ago, was at least happy whenever the two sisters were together a long time ago in the past. Jinx, on the other hand, was broken and always depressed, conflicted, and traumatized in the present. Hence, Vi wanted Powder instead of Jinx, thinking it was better to be Powder than Jinx in order for her to be happy. If Vi could not save Powder, what else did she have to fight for? Vi did state that she was always thought about her younger sister and talked about her regret when she was in prison. Each time Jinx held onto that cursed name, it only hurt Vi how much her word and action negatively affected her sister deeply for years, and how she could not take that back anymore. Vi wanted Powder/Jinx to at least be happy somehow and someway but again, because of how different Jinx is now, Vi does not know how to make her happy anymore, without hurting innocent people for the sake of keeping up the name Jinx. In the "tea party" scene, there's a big contrast between Powder accidentally killing her adopted family and Jinx accidentally killing Silco. I imagine Jinx expected to be harshly criticized by Silco for killing him, just as Vi took out her rage at her sister for killing Mylo and Claggor. But unlike Vi, Silco was not angry at Jinx at all and reassured her in a very loving, consoling soft tone even when he was killed by his own adopted daughter. Vi seemed to reject Powder for being herself when she only tried to help and her explosions killed their adoptive brothers. Silco was the opposite and reassured Jinx that she was perfect and wanted her to continue being herself, before he succumbed to his wounds and died. That was why Jinx chose the "Jinx chair." Silco loved his adoptive daughter's current self and was not angry at her in any way, understanding Powder/Jinx more than Vi could at that time. He was there for Powder/Jinx in the lowest points of her life.
great analogy. It hurts knowing that Silco did corrupt and manipulate Jinx, but when you take in the situation of Jinx's fear of abandonment, and other factors like co-dependancy, needing to feel loved and validated, Silco did do that for Jinx right from the moment he took her in. I can see that possible arguments might arise from this, such as the subjectivity of whether or not Silco was a good parent. You could argue that he manipulated Jinx, which is prevalent throughout the series, but as well, you could say too that he taught Jinx to love herself, to embrace her current self, rather than the manipulation and coercion of Powder becoming Jinx. Again, Jinx did choose the chair with her current name on it in episode 9, and Silco did love Jinx the way she was, rather than trying to "fix her." On the other hand, Jinx mightve seen Vi as whats holding her back, throughout the series, Vi does only call her Powder, (or corresponding nicknames like Pow-pow), which was what reminded Jinx of her past. Seeing as her sister cant acknowledge that she is truly Jinx, you can only imagine how hurt Jinx is by that. In episode 9, when Vi believes that Jinx mightve actually killed Caitlyn, (I.E. the whole entire head tray thing) theres a micro expression thats so quick, you would have to rewatch the scene a few times, or even slow down the scene. Jinx says along the lines of "jeez, im not that crazy" and you can see afterwards Jinx does frown after that. Jinx acknowledges now that her own sister is afraid of her, sees her as crazy, rather than to embrace who shes become.
@@mizoboe6193 Silco genuinely loved and helped Jinx in his own way but now that I think about it, I realized that he technically manipulated her and her mental state still kinda got worse (even as he genuinely grew to care about her later on). When Marcus chloroformed and kidnapped Vi, Silco ordered him to kill her and expected her to be dead. However, Marcus did not and kept her away in Stillwater Hold secretly. If it were not for Marcus or Silco, Vi would have been there to comfort her sister immediately. Even if Vi was still angry at Powder for not staying put as she was told to, they would never want to lose each other because they were the only family they had left. If Powder told Silco everything that had happened through her perspective, a healthy parent would not kill Vi and allowed her and Powder to clear up the misunderstanding, because we know that Vi truly did not mean any harm her sister and wanted to apologize and was just traumatized about what happened. Powder/Jinx did hold resentment towards Vi for abandoning her, but she never wanted her older sister to die, so Jinx got pissed that Vi was actually alive this whole time and called Silco a "liar" when she graffited on Sevika's unconscious body above him. But because of Silco's own trauma when he was betrayed by Vander, Silco was as broken as Powder/Jinx and wanted her to "recover" in ways he knew how, thinking she was better off without Vi for hurting Powder in the first place. Lol, I swear, out of all the new names Silco could have gone for, Silco convinced Powder that damaging name Jinx was a "good one." He's no perfect father but he gave her love and support she needed, since we noticed that she never seemed to be afraid of him at all and he allowed her to vent to him about her lingering trauma. So SIlco is both a good and bad/toxic father, lol. (Or maybe he's more bad/toxic father because he didn't have to convince Powder/Jinx to be violent just to prove herself and none of this would have happened if he hadn't kidnapped Vander in the first place.) I did notice the split-second expression in the "tea party" scene~ As much as we sympathized Jinx, she was honestly very toxic towards Vi due to her severe abdonment issue and paranoia, especially tying Vi up and threatened her to kill Caitlyn. It's not fair for Vi and I'm glad that she refused Jinx's "offer" to kill her friend, lol. Because of how unpredictable and dangerous Jinx was when she and Vi met the second and third time, Vi was put under a lot of stress and did not know how to talk to her "calmly" and said things without thinking again, even though this time wanting what was best for Jinx (inadvertly caused her to accidentally kill Silco). I won't be surprised that Vi may still refuse to call Jinx by that name since to Vi, it's only a brutal reminder to her of how much her negative words and action mentally screwed Powder's head since they were separated. It's like if I accidentally call someone "useless" out of anger and I couldn't see them again for years for some reason, they decided to take on the new persona "Useless" to teach me a lesson and I'd feel so bad, lol. I also can't blame Jinx if she still feels angry or distraught that Vi still calls her Powder since the name Powder was a reminder of how much her child-self screwed things up by accidentally killing their adopted family or someone who couldn't do anything right.
Love your post but there is a little point that people tend to forget. The tea partty and the massacre of Vi and Powder family of could sound similar to Jinx (she lost a father figure by her own hand in both) but are not. Vi loved Jinx and has been her letally wound by the explotion she surelly would be able to forgive her with her last breath. But Vi wasn't the one who got killed, was her family. Also back then Vi was a violent teen who had fought a seconds ago so was pumping adrenaline and alredy enraged, add that to all her loved ones were taken away in a grueseome way and you have a violent response granted. Silco other hand is an adult know for being cold, controlated and manipulative, he knows he would win nothing scolding Jinx and has nothing to loose since he is alredy diong so he can look for the best words to ensure than even in death Jinx will remember him fondly. For Jinx there are two similar situations when one person conforted her and other person got enraged, but in reality is a pretty unjust comparation.
btw wtf is wrong her parents? First child : "Let's name her violet, our wonderful baby deserve a beautiful name" Second child : "Meh, powder I guess" If I'm named powder I would be blowing shit up too.
@@beansforlief5703 It was... more of a joke instead of a theory ^^' Powder was just too young to understand what death was when their parents died. Chances are, she asked her sister when they were coming home after the rebellion... Powder was showing clear signs of BPD as a child, and early separation from parents is a common cause in BPD. Though she doesn't seem to remember them much, she must have been a loved child for their sudden disappearance to cause her to develop BPD
I like to think it was because of her hair, “powder” is a name for a type of blue. We can see the mom had purple hair in the first ep, perhaps their parents thought Vi would come out with purple hair? Or maybe Vi was named after her mother? And Powder after their father’s hair/or her own hair?
Yeah, I guess it all comes down to the fact that teenagers aren't qualified to be good parents. No reasonable culture on Earth would argue otherwise. Vi did the best she could given her circumstances, and it would be far more fair to say that it was the circumstances of life in the undercity that ultimately created Jinx, not any one person.
I always assumed she chose the Jinx chair because Silco helped her accepting herself as the person she already was at that moment - still Vis sister, but not harmless little Powder any more. I mean there was no way Vi could undo 5 to 10 years of unresolved trauma and constant manipulation anyway. By blowing up the council she then took revenge on Piltover for all the bad things that happened to her and that turned her into a violent monster.
Constant manipulation? Where? There's like maybe one scene where he does that, when she's literally stabbing him in the face. In the end, all he did was put her on the same track again. He isn't wrong in the respect that they are both similar and have shared experiences and pain. Jinx is Jinx, Silco is Silco. He didn't raise her to be a mass murderer, it's in her nature. Where in the show does he kill someone for fun? All of his kills are calculated and cunning in order to achieve a specific goal. Yet, he's never shown taking pleasure in murdering people. Meanwhile, Jinx has repeatedly shown that she can kill people, not only nonchalantly but she also has a blast doing it. She shoots birds for no reason, tapes bombs onto fireflies, and planks pranks on people right before she blows them up with her traps. Silco did help her in accepting herself, yes, but Vi wouldn't have been able to stop Jinx becoming a monster even without Silco in the picture. Jinx was inevitable on the day that she accidentally killed her second hand family.
@David Leung Where? Simple. "You're perfect". Silco never once told his daughter not to murder people, he encouraged her to do so, by letting her do whatever she wants. He said that Jinx was perfect, when she wasn't, at all. Yes, it's what she wanted to hear, but it's not what she needed to her. You don't tell a mentally ill child that they don't need help.
@@eaterbattery That's not what manipulation is. Telling your child that they're perfect the way they are isn't manipulation. What Jinx needed was therapy but where are you supposed to find that kind of support in a run-down city like Zaun? The whole tragedy of her story is that she is a Jinx no matter what she does. She can't run away from what she is and so she ends up embracing it just like Silco wanted.
@@eaterbattery i think you guys shouldnt use the term "manipulation". silco never manipulated jinx, his influence and ideology was something he genuinely believed, he just raised her on the standards and morals he had, it wasnt out of ill intent or anything hes just ignorant and had his own issues like anyone else, intergenerational trauma folks!
I personally don't agree with your view on why Vi gave the bunny to Powder I feel that this bunny meant something to Vi and for her to give it to Powder was something actually deeper, Vi was going to turn herself in and Powder is very dependent on her so she doesn't want to leave Powder 'on her own' so she gives Powder the one materialistic object that held any meaning to her, sort of like giving Powder a piece of herself. Like saying I'm going away but I will never leave you and as long ad you have this we will always be together. Vi understands that she plays an important role for Powder and it's her responsibility so to say to look out for her and that is initially what she is doing by wanting to turn herself in, she needs to do what needs to be done ro protect everyone and do what's right but she also knows that she can't abandon Powder
Good points in the video! I think that even if Vi had stayed and not hit her, Powder would still had been really messed up. The guilt and remorse were to much for a child, with an already low self-confidence to carry.
Seems like Powder had some kind of mental illness to start with and trauma made it worse. Plus people also forget that even though Silco ended up caring about Jinx genuinely at the end, he was initially planning to use her as a weapon. We can all see that how delighted he was finding her at such an opportune vulnerable state (an impressionable child perfect for moulding after being abandoned). Regardless he was a fantastically written character (how his arc ended and his relationship with Jinx), everyone is!
@@Nice-sz4ee I disagree. Silco went soft the moment Powder hugged him. His eyes said it all. He was shocked by the hug, then moved by her sharing her story about Vi abandoning her, which was his story with Vander. When he hugged her back, he already cared about her. This is re-enforced by every scene post timeskip. Everyone in his organization points out Jinx is his weakness. He even talks to her entirely different than he does everyone else. The single time we are shown any nefarious intent behind Silco's motives with Powder is right before she hugs him.
Agreed. People arguing how different Jinx and Powder are make me think they did not watch the same show. Jinx was clawing through to the surface from scene one. No well-adjusted child makes *bombs* to go up against the mostly unarmed thugs they were used to dealing with. Even when Vi was threatened with a knife, she chose not to murder him, so people arguing it was just the environment she was raised in are missing the point: Powder was always Jinx. Silco just taught her to not be afraid of it.
3:31 The answer is not that Vi needed to do a better job caretaking. She did the best she could. Someone (Vander) needed to tell Vi that her worth wasn't entirely wrapped up in being the caretaker. That's how Powder would've gotten space to become more self sufficient, and Vi would've been more accepting of whoever Powder grew into.
Seeing how Powder turned out, I guess you could also say that it was a result of the Topside neglecting the Underside. If the Underside wasn't so cruel, scary, and a terrible place where violent and vicious people like Silco ran amok, a child wouldn't be corrupted so thoroughly. She never would have lost her parents, never would have had to go on a heist, never had to create explosives that led to such a tragedy, and she never would have been put through the situation where her family was taken away by an evil guy. I think this is also a good reminder of how messed up the Underside can be. While Topside is progressing and their people are thriving, and they have the time to grow up well and have the compassion to make "peace" with the Underside after many years, shit is going down and the people down in the Underside are rotting and dying. Fighting for every moment to live.
i’m pretty sure silco would’ve still loved jinx if she chose to sit on the “powder” chair. when she was in a crisis trying to decide her true identity, she couldn’t choose and blindly shot silco. when silco told her that she was perfect, it didn’t matter to him if she chose powder. he unconditionally loves jinx as she is. the only reason why silco couldn’t accept jinx still loving vi was the thought of losing her. silco also has abandonment issues, just like jinx. that’s why in the tea party scene he reminds jinx that everyone will continue to betray them, and even attempting to shoot vi, hoping he wouldn’t lose jinx, the only person he truly cared for.
I agree. If you noticed, Silco did not (try to) say anything when Jinx made her proposal to Vi. "Which chair should I sit in? You decide." Silco said nothing, because he did not care which seat she sat in. It wasn't until Vi changed the terms of the offer, ignoring Jinx's need for Vi to choose her over Caitlyn in the process, that Silco became furious. It became clear to him in that moment that he was right about Vi. She did not love or understand Jinx the way he did, so her leaving with Vi would be harmful to her. It was not about which persona was fronting, he loved both of them. He only wanted her to break away from her trauma by abandoning the name. Vi, on the other hand, wanted her to abandon half of her identity (Jinx), not just the name. He did not only want to not lose his daughter, he did not want his daughter to lose herself.
i don't think he loves her unconditionally. Even though he won't stop loving her just because she does something he doesn't like he will force her on the path he wants her on. Not only because he has the arrogance of a messed up parent, partly seeing her as his invention and doesn't like to be told no, but also because just like you said he has also similar issues with jinx and I think if jinx were to choose a path that didn't involve him he would feel betrayed. Tbh though he did die very peacefully in her arms even though she killed him.
I'd argue that there was a person that could accept both Powder and Jinx. It was Silco. Powder isnt souly defined by her love for Vi, in fact, Jinx loves Vi as well. Powder and Jinx can and do exist as a single identity rather than 2 sperate (but I'm not getting into the nuances of that right now) Powder is seen within Jinx all of the time when she softens or temporarily doesn't hear the voices, such as when she opens up to Silco about what happened with the first mission, when Silco baptizes her and when she's having the time of her life working on her bombs. Silco never once cast any of that in a negative light. He never told her she "wasn't herself" or that he "knows jinx is in there deep down" as Vi did with Jinx. Of course he tells her to "let Powder die" but that's his way of helping with her panic attacks and hallucinations. He didn't want that sweet innocent side of her to die. He wanted the fears and debilitating regrets associated with it to die because he knows what that's like. Hell, he doesn't even reject the part of her that loves Vi (bc he very obviously still loves vander and can understand that) it just sends him into a "oh my god, I don't want jinx to leave me" panic. Compare that to Vi, who actively tries to make Jinx stay soft, sweet and innocent due to her dislike for Jinx's mental illness, combat abilities, and love of Silco (who she views as evil) Silco only wanted to manage Jinx's mental illness and continue to live his life with Jinx as both sweet Powder and hardened Jinx. Vi wanted to make hardened Jinx go away so she could live her life with sweet Powder. This is what made Silcos death hit twice as hard. His dying words he spoke to her were "Don't cry. You're perfect" Letting her know that she was perfect as she was, as both Powder and Jinx. To suggest any different would be doing Silcos death a disservice. He was the one that lived with and learned to love both Powder and Jinx. Vi had only ever known her sweet Powder.
Yeah, people saying Silco only loved Jinx annoys me to no end. Powder is fronting in almost every scene we see her with Silco. That would make no sense unless she felt her vulnerable side was safe and cherished with him. Given how softly he speaks with her, how patient he is with her, it is clear he does not want her to lose that side of her. He actively creates a safe space for her to be Powder, while giving her tasks that allow her to be Jinx. He loves both sides of her, which is why he says she is perfect even when she "chooses" Powder by killing him to save Vi.
I can't agree with the assessment. Vi was a literal child / lost teenager who hasn't figured herself sufficiently out, as Vander pointed out. Vi was actually a good parent figure, going by the flashbacks we got (going by a psychiartist). From the portrayla auf Powders character, just taking her toys along wouldn't have been acceptable. It would have further denied Powder the possibilty to learn, like with that roof jumping exercise. It would have likely lead to more mockery by Milo. Vi was at the moment she oversteped traumatized by 3 deaths of family members seeing it was Powder (with her spotting the monkey head), having a dislocated shoulder and 2 1/2 near death experiences. I argue there are almost no grownups who'd acted differently put in Vi's situation and some who'd acted worse. Powder actually had another parental figure in Vander, who isn't considered in discussions like this at all. After the time jump Vi lacked a ton of information and the situations got either escalated without Vi even having the option to change anything or escalated because Jinx literally can't allow Vi any other attachment then to herself. The reading that Vi got somehow surprised that Jinx can fight is imho absurd. They literally fought before together, quite successfully. What does change is that Jinx get into a quite happy murder mode. Last of all, Jinx is a grown up at the end. You can't point every personal failure on another person - which you wish to further abuse - and deny any and all personal responsibility.
though Vi did participate in the creation of Jinx, i think Jinx is wrong she said Silco didn't create her new persona. Silco taught Powder to be like him, creating Jinx in the process. heck, he's the one who put her in that toxic lake because he's been in it and it "killed the weak part of him" and he wanted Jinx to kill her weak side, her Powder side as well. he's also probably the one that told her that all violence is okay to achieve your goals. i mean, Powder was never violent, right ? this mindset did make Jinx stronger than Powder was, and i think that's why she doesn't see that Silco is a part of the creation of Jinx. to her, he made her strong, that's all she sees so she only thinks Vi is to blame because of all that happened in episode 3. honestly, it's Powder's whole story that created Jinx. it's Vi being that model to her, creating this anxious attachment. (this wasn't intentional though, Vi probably didn't know how deep this attachment was, she just knew her sister looked up to her). it's Mylo, always putting her down. it's Vi when she left her for a bit to calm down and not hurt her more in the end of ep3. it's Marcus when he took Vi to prison so she couldn't go back to her sister as she wanted to. and finally, it's Silco who found her, adopted her and raised her into Jinx.
@@claffy2 how did he free her? He let a really mentally ill kid live with NO boundaries and raised her in an environment where killing was normal (more normal than with vi and them) jinx wasn't actually jinx until Silco raised her that way. It's a mix of her trauma and abandonment issues that vi unintentionally fed into and Silco. I just can't see how abandonment issues and the same trauma vi carried as well alone makes jinx. Maybe after the fact that she killed her own family I can see her mind spiriling into the same PTSD and stuff now, but I believe if she went with vi instead she wouldn't be as prone to violence and as chaotic since silco literally gave her no boundaries. She definitely would have been more clingy to vi but I also don't think she'd have as much trust issues since silco pounded it into her head that she was betrayed and all they have is eachother. So she'd be less chaotic (I image reverting back to her mellow self with more panic attacks and way more easily triggered as the current jinx is), less violent, and less trusting issues. Of course she's still have all this but LESS since silco would've be there to tell her everything she does wrong is a okay and to encourage to violent mental tendencies. Instead of helping her, Silco encouraged all the bad thoughts and actions from her mental issues and put a fucking golden star on it.
Piltover created Jinx. The exploitative nature of the relationship between Piltover and Zaun created a ticking time bomb. Jinx is the embodiment of that bomb and the explosion that brings Piltover to the ground. It's the classic story of a mad scientist creating a monster, and the monster kills the scientist.
@@adrenjones9301 yeah they never actually show the relationship outside of the class disparity and dialogue drops. Apparently Piltover is using Zaun as a mining site for an extremely toxic substance, hence why Viktor has a disability and the chemical soup they called water. Wish they showed not told about the toxic mines and dangerous manufacturing that was supposed to be done happening in Zaun.
Vi created Jinx. Caused the explosion top side by breaking into a place she had no business of being and then keeping said material that her father said to dispose of that later causes their family to die. Vi is terrible and people need to stop simping and see said truth
@mysteryace2129 , unpopular take, but I agree. Every character is at fault for something, and that's why we see the domino effect of their actions on all our beloved characters. 😢💔
Being the youngest of the family I often happened to be treated with if I were still a suckling, not from much annoyance but in the long run it consumes you and I can totally see how much that have deeply impacted Powder/Jinx's life since She wanted so badly to be indipendent but She was kept inside a "cage" also for the notoriety of Zaun and the monsters It create.
Vi had so much pressure on her and forced to be like a second parent for ALL her siblings. She was agrieving child yet no one sees her pain, not even you, cause it's hidden while show clearly centers around jinx.
Silco didnt love jinx at the end, he loved her as his daughter. He was the only person that loved her with all her flaws And that's why her powder side in a way dies with him, and she automatically chooses jinx. But make no mistake. Jinx is still powder. Serious trauma can do that to you. It's called arrested development.
I don't think Vi didn't want to accept the violent nature that spawned through powder to make Jinx.... I think she didn't want to accept the violent nature Jinx because she's a constant reminder of her being partially responsible for the Creation OF Jinx..
Not many people blames silco. But it is understandable people tend to forgive or forget the murderer's fault s when the murderer who tried to kill the whole family took a pity on the last family member and spare her life.
It's like years or murder, complot, abuse, manipulation were magically ereased because he conforted the girl he kidnnaped and whose family murdered with his dying breath.
I agree that part of Vi, but a disagree the part of silco. By silco I think that he has support Powder to become who she is now and I don't think that he knows that powder was called a Jinx (and I don't really think thats sevika would tell him that) I think it was powders choice to be called Jinx and he sees this as her way do become stronger, as someone who sympathize with her, he accepted and helped her in his own way. I'm pretty sure that when Powder decided do be called powder, silco would accept this either way, but she decided to Jinx and he accepted it, he accepted who she will be and become. When Vi can not accept jinx. And Silco saying to her "you're perfect" sounds to me like more "It doesn't matter who you will be, you're perfect" maybe I read to much in it, but that just my thoughts
That is how I took it, too. He did not say anything when Jinx asked Vi to choose which seat she sat in. He let her make her own decision, because he loved her either way. It wasn't until Vi ignored Jinx's need (to be chosen over Caitlyn) that he became furious, seeing he was right that Vi would leave her again. Also, in a sense, she "chose" Powder over Jinx by killing Silco to save Vi, and he still told her she was perfect. He loved Powder just as much as he loved Jinx, and Vi could never love Jinx.
I never thought about the dichotomy Powder/Jinx in terms of "no one completely loves me" thats a great point, but it's important to remember that her most important figure was Silco by the time of the third act, I don't think she really wanted to hurt Vi ir Silco, I been reading about that teory saying that Jinx shoot for a reflex, something for what she was trained, mixed with her trauma and all the "noise" on her head, the point it's that no one really created her, Jinx is the product of her environment and all the wrecked people around her.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 Silco used to love Powder, he did in the present like a father loves the memory of her now grown up daughter, it's true Powder is on the past now. Jinx hates Powder but not Silco, cause on his memory (I theorize ) she still being the child who hug him, and was able to cure his loneliness, and with the time she became on her now "perfect" Jinx.
@@bm5466 I think we are saying the same thing, but in different ways? Silco loved Jinx as a child (Powder) and probably still saw her that way, while also recognizing and being proud of who she became (Jinx). In terms of how he uses the names, Powder = before the hug, Jinx = ever since, while he loves both sides of her in terms of who she is as a person in either state/at either point.
I found it interesting u expect a child taking care of another child. sorta like in the immigration detention center where older children look after younger kids,u cant blame those older children. it's sad u blame those who pay the bills but not those who bring them into the situation. but on the other hand, it's all the positive things vi said keeps her going,makes jinx stronger, together they'll make an impact upon the world in different aspects
Kind of, as cool as Jinx character desing is is not a sane neither a happy person. See Jinx at the third episode and is still a insecure child afraid of being abandones, who easily get jelous and tryes to impress his father figure to gain aprobation, she gets despised for everybody besides Silco even if now is stronger. Jinx is a lonely and sad person. Powder for all her short comings who came mostly from her youth was able to make relationships and had family and friends besides Vi.
Now I understand the situation even better, I never knew why she had two chairs one that says Powder and one that says Jinx. Now I understand that nobody accepted both sides, but I think Jinx only wanted acceptance, Powder is just past that messed up all the time. Edit: but she still wants her sister, that Silco's side would not have
The last words Vi says to Powder cemented her trauma, unintentional as it might be. Vi still struck her sister and said “because you’re a jinx,Milo was Right”. That right there, her sister, saying that Powder’s bully brother was right and calling her Jinx like Milo always did. We Find out at the beginning of act two. Powder is haunted by Milo,her bully. I mean it. What a Greek tragedy. I want Ekko to time travel and save Powder from permanent trauma, or at least lessen it. Ekko&Jinx best couple in Arcane ❤❤❤
you're the first video essayist i've seen who pointed out that vi let her sister get bullied for years right in front of her and did nothing meaningful about it. we see her confront mylo later, but it was far too late at that point, because powder believed that vi agreed with mylo. not necessarily because of what she said, but because of her inaction when it mattered. idk... as an older sibling with a similar age gap, it's hard not to judge vi harshly for it. it's one thing if the kid brother or sister is bullied in school when it's out of your hands. and you just can't protect them all the time even when you want to. but to have it happen right there, multiple times, and just let it pass is hard to forgive for me. but that's part of the character-writing that makes this show so precious, everybody has deep flaws. the masterful tragic twists of arcane stem from the feeling that they are inevitable on some levels, and so, easily preventable on other levels.
Did we watch the same show or something ? vi yelled at mylo for putting powder down and many times vi have defended powder. I really think we watch a different show lol
Nice video but you didn't really explain how Vi created Jinx except the scene where she leaves her. Best not to forget where you started when you conclude the video.
One thing that did annoy me was Vi talking the opps about Jinx. I know she didn’t mean harm by it but that was then the basis of any peace deal for Zaun. People say Jinx jinxed any hope for peace but there never would have been peace as Piltover demanded Jinx’s arrest which Silco wouldn’t have done any more than Vander would’ve.
My view: Vi made a lot of mistakes with Powder, not just the ones pointed out in this video. Powder was a young child. Vi should never have taken her on missions, particularly dangerous ones. I totally get that she wanted to help Powder become capable and feel like part of the group, but she could have done this by having her help with prep supplies, devise tactics etc - things that Powder demonstrates capability in without putting her in harm's way. Vi could have still taught her parkour without it being used for missions, more to help her run or navigate away from trouble. She could have joined missions when she was older, if/once she actually was able to handle all the aspects that come with it. She kept telling Powder that she's ready - so the one time she tells her she's not, totally breaks her. It's a betrayal and would come across like she's never believed she was ready to begin with. So of course Powder would feel abandoned and worthless and desperately want to find a way to prove herself. Vi knows how dangerous her missions are, and how dangerous the Undercity can be. Just because she's grown up a fighter (and it would appear this was condoned by Vander, at least in some ways), it doesn't mean Powder should have been exposed to more of that and pushed in that direction. Vi can't have it both ways - she can't expect Powder to be exposed to all the trauma, hate for Topside and enforcers, encouraged to help on dangerous missions etc, and remain sweet and innocent as well. She wanted a better life for Powder, but immersed her in things that only served to compound her misery. Of course Vi is a child herself, and should never have been placed in the situation where she had to act as defacto parent. She can't be expected to have the skills necessary to parent a traumatised child. Vander is ultimately at fault for not shouldering that responsibility.
Is it alright to say that the things that happened to this characters were really meant to happen or that it's really there fate? But why is Jinx's life so sad and depressing? I hope some good things happens to her in season 2
I don't think Vi created Jinx: Vi is still a child herself. Jinx was allready with Powder on the Bridge, in episode one (scribbly face on enforcer) If at all the violent and traumatising systhem of piltover created Jinx. And Vi, being a human and no god failed to do the impossible to save her sister Powder from the terror of structural violence. I actually think violent sythems like piltover, but in the real world, are exactly how terrorists and murderers are "raised". Like Piltover summoned Jinx, the violent systhem's of our world summon violent people to leash out at us.
Damn bro it feels like you do 90% of arcane content on TH-cam, don't get me wrong it's all great but you should probably chill out there, maybe try to explore something not arcane related. Cuz when I see one of your videos I think "oh well it's the arcane guy" anyway I watch all of them because your analysis is great, but arcane won't get spikes in 2022 until the season 2 will be brought so it's kinda dying and it's sad to see your views doing so as well. I hope you got me right
Many people likes to blame Vi, but I think that she didn't created Jinx at all. I think that Jinx was always there, in the brindge, when Powder wanted to put nails on bombs, when Powder throw bombs to people, Jinx was alredy there. But Vi kept her controled, Jinx never had the need to take full control because Powder was feeling safe and loved around Vi, even if others got angry at her, Vi was always there to defend her and give her the good speech. The moment Vi is taken away Powder losses that support and Jinx start taking control, encoraged by Silco. Vi never had let Powder kill for fun, but Silco encoraged that behaviour. Vi didn't create Jinx, she was the leash who kept the alredy existing Jinx under control.
I think that by the end of the show that's true. I feel sorry for the little Powder, but as time passes her situation start becoming more her dessition since she ins not longer a child dependent of others but a woman who takes her choices and should be responsible of them.
Vi did not create Jinx. Silco did by nurturing her hatred and resentment. Of course, Jinx won't see it that way, but he killed Powder and buried her and brought Jinx to the surface.
I think she chose Jinx too cause Silco said she’s perfect. In everything that she is, powder and jinx are the same and he realized that and so did she.
Bro you’re making me want to sink another 6 hours into watching this show
Do it
Do it, I did 6 times 😬
I’m boutta do it for the 3rd time
lol I did it 6 times.
@@RJLpt same mate
the fact act 3 released in november and there is still content about arcane shows how good this show is
I believe we will keep seei g it until s2 is out
@@TheOneAndOnlyBRH hopefully
@@TheOneAndOnlyBRHGuessed right!
Vi: "What makes you different makes you strong."
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Jinx: "I thought you could love me like you used to. Even though I'm... different."
Wow yea vi did say that huh. Ik now why jinx feels hurt by vi
@@CertainlyCynical i only noticed it the second time watching the series, but Jinx's line at the end of the show hits me so much harder now when I think of how she might have held onto Vi's words all this time.
People often overlook the parallels between these lines. This shaped Powder/Jinx's ideology. People want to say "Silco made her that way," but she always, always, always wanted to be strong more than anything else. Strong so she could support Vi, then strong so she could support Silco. Her strength came from her proclivity for violence and her gadgets, both as a child and later as Jinx. Unfortunately, she had not learned how to get her gadgets to work yet, and she was still too afraid to get up close and personal in violence (preferring to set bombs while staying hidden). What people consider Silco's "manipulation" is him simply being willing to do the one thing Vi never could: Embrace what makes her different.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 you know l felt that when l watched episode 1 ...in one of the bombs that didnt work she'd put nails...nails in that thing, if they'd worked she could have killed the guy and even seriously hurt friends . Then additionally she's good at shooting , if she grew good at it what would she have been shooting? tranquilizers? maybe tranqs could have been an option but to be truthful theres very small margin for what would have been good or bad for a child who didnt grow up around pacifists and instead aspired to be as good as fighters when her physic and talents lay elsewhere.Say if she was a bomb and shooting prone kid who grew up with the adult ekko then her ideas and examples would be in those smoke bombs and those bombs that crystalized and immobilised __ As she was already powder was set up on a narrow path that any small things could have derailed her,she was the kind of "different" that needed attention and naturing but unfortunately Vi was also a kid and thier brothers' insecurities played on Jinxes' and complimented them too well and their life was too stressful for her sensitivity but then again maybe she got to be sensetive because she had a sister like Vi in a rough environment ,its a tricky thing but "Jinx" was born maybe at the same time that Powder lost her parents ,its just that possibly if Vi hadnt been kidnapped and she had been with Powder after the incident Jinx wouldnt have been as much a mass killer coz Silcos resources and power enabled the worst of her .No one ever considered that even if Vi had not been taken Powder would still have that guilt and it would have worn at the sisters' relationship.Also Powder's might have actually taken a worser trajectory but l digress
@@returntosoilgumihonow that season 2 is almost over I’d say even if Vi had come back SHE would have had to face what she did head on.
Powder/jinx achieved what Vi always secretly wanted. Chaos and destruction of piltover in revenge for everything that happened to Zaun and her parents. Powder/jinx wanted to be a fighter because of Vi. But she also was well aware of Vis rage,hatred, and violent outbursts…… the fact Jinx operates similarly as she grows older isn’t a surprise. She’s trying to make Vi proud still. When she thinks she’s close she realizes Vi has changed and doesn’t love her anymore. It was basically all for nothing. Which is why after everything she basically sees herself as a nobody and doesn’t have any interest in the rebellion or piltover or anything else anymore.
On the reverse while with Isha she operates more in line with how she secretly WANTD to be. She actively fights off her demons, try’s to find some peace, wants to keep Isha. Safe. Isha sees that powder/jinx just wants to live in peace, she’s also reckless and actually selfless. Willing to die for friends and family if it came down to it. Isha fulfills that “dream”. Where powder failed to save her friends and family, Isha succeeds with a smile on her face knowing she saved them and has powder/jinx’s love and protection
In Vi's perspective, I absolutely cannot fault her for any of her actions. The stream of trauma might have started was when Vi's and Powder's parents were killed, and this can basically traumatize any children, especially Powder. I believe as the result of this, Powder developed severe abandonment and anxiety issues and was very co-dependent on Vi, the only family Powder was close to. If Vi was gone, Powder would feel like she could not go on living anymore. As you said, Vi was her everything. No one could understand Powder but Vi in this dark, cruel, scary reality that no child could live on their own, physically and mentally.
In place of their late mother's, not only Vi is Powder's older sister but Vi acted almost like a mother figure to her sister. Unlike Mylo who repeatedly shunned Powder and brought down her self-esteem, she looked for validation and comfort from her older sister. Vi had always been there for her younger sister and made her feel loved and secure. It's why Powder wanted to "be ready" and go any missions in any way possible with Vi to not feel alone, even it meant she could slow the others down. When Vi, Mylo, and Claggor went off to save Vander, Powder not only felt alone and useless that she might not do anything to help them but was also very panicking of a chance of losing her loved ones again just as they lost their parents. When Powder tried to save them, instead of setting up only one explosion, she was so paranoid that her small plan wouldn't work that she set off all of them just in case. After unknowingly killing her adopted brothers and seeing her older sister standing right there, she expected Vi to be very proud of her "amazing accomplishment," like any innocent child wanted to show off something cool and amazing to their loving parents. But when Powder did not get that and realized that she ruined things in the worst way possible, it was too much for her already-broken mind to process what just had happened. It was also all too much for Vi to take and reacted irrationally. For Powder, all she could think about was not being alone again, her worst fear came to light, desperately begging Vi to not leave her and hoping that she still loved her. At that moment, Vi might have felt like Powder was "ignorant" for "not" wanting to deal with the consequence of her action and did not even seem to apologize for what she did. "Why did YOU leave me?" This caused Vi to smack her younger sister in the face and call her a "jinx" to teach her a lesson out of anger. Vi was someone who Powder loved and looked up to so much, more than anyone in the world. Powder's mental state was destroyed what she once knew about Vi betrayed her and her mind had truly begun to crumble down to madness.
Although Powder hated herself and her name, she still would do anything to keep her mind sane and wanted to feel love again, from literally anyone, even from someone like Silco. While I imagined maybe at first Powder did not like to be called "jinx" since it was a traumatic reminder of why and how Vi "abandoned" her, Silco convinced and moulded Powder to embrace her jinx flaws and faced them instead of avoiding them. Instead of pushing away her jinx side, she should embrace it. If she's good at screwing things up, she should be proud of them, and not let Vi's negative words and actions crumble her down. To Jinx, Powder was a weakness and nobody wanted Powder. But someone loved Jinx and accepted Jinx, and that was Silco. Again, Powder/Jinx just wanted to feel loved and be accepted no matter what, not caring if her actions were good or not.
For Vi's side, it's unfortunate for her that she could barely grasp Jinx's new identity, only meeting her three times in total for season 1. When the two sisters reunited, things seemed to be going well (before Caitlyn showed up) and this gave Vi hope that she could help Powder/Jinx recover from her trauma. However, Vi was very alarmed by how mentally messed-up and unstable her younger sister truly was after their years of separation. Understandable, Vi was under the impression that Silco took advantage of Jinx's broken state and wanted him to stay away from Powder/Jinx. Vi felt so guilty that she called her own sister a "jinx" and that cursed name forever scared Powder/Jinx. Vi wanted to do everything she could to redeem her action and promised Vander's wish that she would "take care of Powder". Vander's dying breath was wanting Vi to protect Powder. The Powder who Vi remembered a long time ago, was at least happy whenever the two sisters were together a long time ago in the past. Jinx, on the other hand, was broken and always depressed, conflicted, and traumatized in the present. Hence, Vi wanted Powder instead of Jinx, thinking it was better to be Powder than Jinx in order for her to be happy. If Vi could not save Powder, what else did she have to fight for? Vi did state that she was always thought about her younger sister and talked about her regret when she was in prison. Each time Jinx held onto that cursed name, it only hurt Vi how much her word and action negatively affected her sister deeply for years, and how she could not take that back anymore. Vi wanted Powder/Jinx to at least be happy somehow and someway but again, because of how different Jinx is now, Vi does not know how to make her happy anymore, without hurting innocent people for the sake of keeping up the name Jinx.
In the "tea party" scene, there's a big contrast between Powder accidentally killing her adopted family and Jinx accidentally killing Silco. I imagine Jinx expected to be harshly criticized by Silco for killing him, just as Vi took out her rage at her sister for killing Mylo and Claggor. But unlike Vi, Silco was not angry at Jinx at all and reassured her in a very loving, consoling soft tone even when he was killed by his own adopted daughter. Vi seemed to reject Powder for being herself when she only tried to help and her explosions killed their adoptive brothers. Silco was the opposite and reassured Jinx that she was perfect and wanted her to continue being herself, before he succumbed to his wounds and died.
That was why Jinx chose the "Jinx chair." Silco loved his adoptive daughter's current self and was not angry at her in any way, understanding Powder/Jinx more than Vi could at that time. He was there for Powder/Jinx in the lowest points of her life.
great analogy. It hurts knowing that Silco did corrupt and manipulate Jinx, but when you take in the situation of Jinx's fear of abandonment, and other factors like co-dependancy, needing to feel loved and validated, Silco did do that for Jinx right from the moment he took her in.
I can see that possible arguments might arise from this, such as the subjectivity of whether or not Silco was a good parent. You could argue that he manipulated Jinx, which is prevalent throughout the series, but as well, you could say too that he taught Jinx to love herself, to embrace her current self, rather than the manipulation and coercion of Powder becoming Jinx. Again, Jinx did choose the chair with her current name on it in episode 9, and Silco did love Jinx the way she was, rather than trying to "fix her." On the other hand, Jinx mightve seen Vi as whats holding her back, throughout the series, Vi does only call her Powder, (or corresponding nicknames like Pow-pow), which was what reminded Jinx of her past. Seeing as her sister cant acknowledge that she is truly Jinx, you can only imagine how hurt Jinx is by that.
In episode 9, when Vi believes that Jinx mightve actually killed Caitlyn, (I.E. the whole entire head tray thing) theres a micro expression thats so quick, you would have to rewatch the scene a few times, or even slow down the scene. Jinx says along the lines of "jeez, im not that crazy" and you can see afterwards Jinx does frown after that. Jinx acknowledges now that her own sister is afraid of her, sees her as crazy, rather than to embrace who shes become.
@@mizoboe6193 Silco genuinely loved and helped Jinx in his own way but now that I think about it, I realized that he technically manipulated her and her mental state still kinda got worse (even as he genuinely grew to care about her later on). When Marcus chloroformed and kidnapped Vi, Silco ordered him to kill her and expected her to be dead. However, Marcus did not and kept her away in Stillwater Hold secretly. If it were not for Marcus or Silco, Vi would have been there to comfort her sister immediately. Even if Vi was still angry at Powder for not staying put as she was told to, they would never want to lose each other because they were the only family they had left.
If Powder told Silco everything that had happened through her perspective, a healthy parent would not kill Vi and allowed her and Powder to clear up the misunderstanding, because we know that Vi truly did not mean any harm her sister and wanted to apologize and was just traumatized about what happened. Powder/Jinx did hold resentment towards Vi for abandoning her, but she never wanted her older sister to die, so Jinx got pissed that Vi was actually alive this whole time and called Silco a "liar" when she graffited on Sevika's unconscious body above him. But because of Silco's own trauma when he was betrayed by Vander, Silco was as broken as Powder/Jinx and wanted her to "recover" in ways he knew how, thinking she was better off without Vi for hurting Powder in the first place. Lol, I swear, out of all the new names Silco could have gone for, Silco convinced Powder that damaging name Jinx was a "good one." He's no perfect father but he gave her love and support she needed, since we noticed that she never seemed to be afraid of him at all and he allowed her to vent to him about her lingering trauma. So SIlco is both a good and bad/toxic father, lol. (Or maybe he's more bad/toxic father because he didn't have to convince Powder/Jinx to be violent just to prove herself and none of this would have happened if he hadn't kidnapped Vander in the first place.)
I did notice the split-second expression in the "tea party" scene~ As much as we sympathized Jinx, she was honestly very toxic towards Vi due to her severe abdonment issue and paranoia, especially tying Vi up and threatened her to kill Caitlyn. It's not fair for Vi and I'm glad that she refused Jinx's "offer" to kill her friend, lol. Because of how unpredictable and dangerous Jinx was when she and Vi met the second and third time, Vi was put under a lot of stress and did not know how to talk to her "calmly" and said things without thinking again, even though this time wanting what was best for Jinx (inadvertly caused her to accidentally kill Silco). I won't be surprised that Vi may still refuse to call Jinx by that name since to Vi, it's only a brutal reminder to her of how much her negative words and action mentally screwed Powder's head since they were separated. It's like if I accidentally call someone "useless" out of anger and I couldn't see them again for years for some reason, they decided to take on the new persona "Useless" to teach me a lesson and I'd feel so bad, lol. I also can't blame Jinx if she still feels angry or distraught that Vi still calls her Powder since the name Powder was a reminder of how much her child-self screwed things up by accidentally killing their adopted family or someone who couldn't do anything right.
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That's okay. I'll blame Vi for an eternity for you.
*VI CREATED JINX*
Love your post but there is a little point that people tend to forget. The tea partty and the massacre of Vi and Powder family of could sound similar to Jinx (she lost a father figure by her own hand in both) but are not. Vi loved Jinx and has been her letally wound by the explotion she surelly would be able to forgive her with her last breath. But Vi wasn't the one who got killed, was her family. Also back then Vi was a violent teen who had fought a seconds ago so was pumping adrenaline and alredy enraged, add that to all her loved ones were taken away in a grueseome way and you have a violent response granted. Silco other hand is an adult know for being cold, controlated and manipulative, he knows he would win nothing scolding Jinx and has nothing to loose since he is alredy diong so he can look for the best words to ensure than even in death Jinx will remember him fondly. For Jinx there are two similar situations when one person conforted her and other person got enraged, but in reality is a pretty unjust comparation.
btw wtf is wrong her parents? First child : "Let's name her violet, our wonderful baby deserve a beautiful name" Second child : "Meh, powder I guess" If I'm named powder I would be blowing shit up too.
I suppose she was an unwanted child... xD
@@morganegerme684 this theory actually makes sense because when their parents died vi cried but not powder
@@beansforlief5703 It was... more of a joke instead of a theory ^^'
Powder was just too young to understand what death was when their parents died. Chances are, she asked her sister when they were coming home after the rebellion...
Powder was showing clear signs of BPD as a child, and early separation from parents is a common cause in BPD. Though she doesn't seem to remember them much, she must have been a loved child for their sudden disappearance to cause her to develop BPD
I like to think it was because of her hair, “powder” is a name for a type of blue. We can see the mom had purple hair in the first ep, perhaps their parents thought Vi would come out with purple hair? Or maybe Vi was named after her mother? And Powder after their father’s hair/or her own hair?
@@beansforlief5703, there were tears in both of their eyes. It's just that Vi cried harder.
Yeah, I guess it all comes down to the fact that teenagers aren't qualified to be good parents. No reasonable culture on Earth would argue otherwise. Vi did the best she could given her circumstances, and it would be far more fair to say that it was the circumstances of life in the undercity that ultimately created Jinx, not any one person.
I always assumed she chose the Jinx chair because Silco helped her accepting herself as the person she already was at that moment - still Vis sister, but not harmless little Powder any more. I mean there was no way Vi could undo 5 to 10 years of unresolved trauma and constant manipulation anyway.
By blowing up the council she then took revenge on Piltover for all the bad things that happened to her and that turned her into a violent monster.
Constant manipulation? Where? There's like maybe one scene where he does that, when she's literally stabbing him in the face. In the end, all he did was put her on the same track again. He isn't wrong in the respect that they are both similar and have shared experiences and pain. Jinx is Jinx, Silco is Silco. He didn't raise her to be a mass murderer, it's in her nature. Where in the show does he kill someone for fun? All of his kills are calculated and cunning in order to achieve a specific goal. Yet, he's never shown taking pleasure in murdering people. Meanwhile, Jinx has repeatedly shown that she can kill people, not only nonchalantly but she also has a blast doing it. She shoots birds for no reason, tapes bombs onto fireflies, and planks pranks on people right before she blows them up with her traps. Silco did help her in accepting herself, yes, but Vi wouldn't have been able to stop Jinx becoming a monster even without Silco in the picture. Jinx was inevitable on the day that she accidentally killed her second hand family.
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@David Leung
Where? Simple. "You're perfect".
Silco never once told his daughter not to murder people, he encouraged her to do so, by letting her do whatever she wants. He said that Jinx was perfect, when she wasn't, at all. Yes, it's what she wanted to hear, but it's not what she needed to her. You don't tell a mentally ill child that they don't need help.
@@eaterbattery That's not what manipulation is. Telling your child that they're perfect the way they are isn't manipulation. What Jinx needed was therapy but where are you supposed to find that kind of support in a run-down city like Zaun? The whole tragedy of her story is that she is a Jinx no matter what she does. She can't run away from what she is and so she ends up embracing it just like Silco wanted.
@@eaterbattery i think you guys shouldnt use the term "manipulation". silco never manipulated jinx, his influence and ideology was something he genuinely believed, he just raised her on the standards and morals he had, it wasnt out of ill intent or anything hes just ignorant and had his own issues like anyone else, intergenerational trauma folks!
I personally don't agree with your view on why Vi gave the bunny to Powder
I feel that this bunny meant something to Vi and for her to give it to Powder was something actually deeper, Vi was going to turn herself in and Powder is very dependent on her so she doesn't want to leave Powder 'on her own' so she gives Powder the one materialistic object that held any meaning to her, sort of like giving Powder a piece of herself. Like saying I'm going away but I will never leave you and as long ad you have this we will always be together. Vi understands that she plays an important role for Powder and it's her responsibility so to say to look out for her and that is initially what she is doing by wanting to turn herself in, she needs to do what needs to be done ro protect everyone and do what's right but she also knows that she can't abandon Powder
Good points in the video! I think that even if Vi had stayed and not hit her, Powder would still had been really messed up. The guilt and remorse were to much for a child, with an already low self-confidence to carry.
If Vi had stayed, Vi would have been killed there and then, and probably Powder too.
Seems like Powder had some kind of mental illness to start with and trauma made it worse. Plus people also forget that even though Silco ended up caring about Jinx genuinely at the end, he was initially planning to use her as a weapon. We can all see that how delighted he was finding her at such an opportune vulnerable state (an impressionable child perfect for moulding after being abandoned). Regardless he was a fantastically written character (how his arc ended and his relationship with Jinx), everyone is!
@@Nice-sz4ee I disagree. Silco went soft the moment Powder hugged him. His eyes said it all. He was shocked by the hug, then moved by her sharing her story about Vi abandoning her, which was his story with Vander. When he hugged her back, he already cared about her. This is re-enforced by every scene post timeskip. Everyone in his organization points out Jinx is his weakness. He even talks to her entirely different than he does everyone else. The single time we are shown any nefarious intent behind Silco's motives with Powder is right before she hugs him.
I think powder had it inside of her all along. They didn’t so much as create her as they did empower her to be released. Genius borders madness.
Even Milo is telling Vi to shut up?
Agreed. People arguing how different Jinx and Powder are make me think they did not watch the same show. Jinx was clawing through to the surface from scene one. No well-adjusted child makes *bombs* to go up against the mostly unarmed thugs they were used to dealing with. Even when Vi was threatened with a knife, she chose not to murder him, so people arguing it was just the environment she was raised in are missing the point: Powder was always Jinx. Silco just taught her to not be afraid of it.
3:31 The answer is not that Vi needed to do a better job caretaking. She did the best she could. Someone (Vander) needed to tell Vi that her worth wasn't entirely wrapped up in being the caretaker. That's how Powder would've gotten space to become more self sufficient, and Vi would've been more accepting of whoever Powder grew into.
Seeing how Powder turned out, I guess you could also say that it was a result of the Topside neglecting the Underside. If the Underside wasn't so cruel, scary, and a terrible place where violent and vicious people like Silco ran amok, a child wouldn't be corrupted so thoroughly. She never would have lost her parents, never would have had to go on a heist, never had to create explosives that led to such a tragedy, and she never would have been put through the situation where her family was taken away by an evil guy.
I think this is also a good reminder of how messed up the Underside can be. While Topside is progressing and their people are thriving, and they have the time to grow up well and have the compassion to make "peace" with the Underside after many years, shit is going down and the people down in the Underside are rotting and dying. Fighting for every moment to live.
i’m pretty sure silco would’ve still loved jinx if she chose to sit on the “powder” chair. when she was in a crisis trying to decide her true identity, she couldn’t choose and blindly shot silco. when silco told her that she was perfect, it didn’t matter to him if she chose powder. he unconditionally loves jinx as she is. the only reason why silco couldn’t accept jinx still loving vi was the thought of losing her. silco also has abandonment issues, just like jinx. that’s why in the tea party scene he reminds jinx that everyone will continue to betray them, and even attempting to shoot vi, hoping he wouldn’t lose jinx, the only person he truly cared for.
I agree. If you noticed, Silco did not (try to) say anything when Jinx made her proposal to Vi. "Which chair should I sit in? You decide." Silco said nothing, because he did not care which seat she sat in. It wasn't until Vi changed the terms of the offer, ignoring Jinx's need for Vi to choose her over Caitlyn in the process, that Silco became furious. It became clear to him in that moment that he was right about Vi. She did not love or understand Jinx the way he did, so her leaving with Vi would be harmful to her. It was not about which persona was fronting, he loved both of them. He only wanted her to break away from her trauma by abandoning the name. Vi, on the other hand, wanted her to abandon half of her identity (Jinx), not just the name. He did not only want to not lose his daughter, he did not want his daughter to lose herself.
i don't think he loves her unconditionally. Even though he won't stop loving her just because she does something he doesn't like he will force her on the path he wants her on. Not only because he has the arrogance of a messed up parent, partly seeing her as his invention and doesn't like to be told no, but also because just like you said he has also similar issues with jinx and I think if jinx were to choose a path that didn't involve him he would feel betrayed. Tbh though he did die very peacefully in her arms even though she killed him.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 that could just be him assecing the situation before he found a good way to step in
I'd argue that there was a person that could accept both Powder and Jinx. It was Silco. Powder isnt souly defined by her love for Vi, in fact, Jinx loves Vi as well. Powder and Jinx can and do exist as a single identity rather than 2 sperate (but I'm not getting into the nuances of that right now) Powder is seen within Jinx all of the time when she softens or temporarily doesn't hear the voices, such as when she opens up to Silco about what happened with the first mission, when Silco baptizes her and when she's having the time of her life working on her bombs. Silco never once cast any of that in a negative light. He never told her she "wasn't herself" or that he "knows jinx is in there deep down" as Vi did with Jinx. Of course he tells her to "let Powder die" but that's his way of helping with her panic attacks and hallucinations. He didn't want that sweet innocent side of her to die. He wanted the fears and debilitating regrets associated with it to die because he knows what that's like. Hell, he doesn't even reject the part of her that loves Vi (bc he very obviously still loves vander and can understand that) it just sends him into a "oh my god, I don't want jinx to leave me" panic. Compare that to Vi, who actively tries to make Jinx stay soft, sweet and innocent due to her dislike for Jinx's mental illness, combat abilities, and love of Silco (who she views as evil)
Silco only wanted to manage Jinx's mental illness and continue to live his life with Jinx as both sweet Powder and hardened Jinx. Vi wanted to make hardened Jinx go away so she could live her life with sweet Powder.
This is what made Silcos death hit twice as hard. His dying words he spoke to her were "Don't cry. You're perfect" Letting her know that she was perfect as she was, as both Powder and Jinx. To suggest any different would be doing Silcos death a disservice. He was the one that lived with and learned to love both Powder and Jinx. Vi had only ever known her sweet Powder.
Yeah, people saying Silco only loved Jinx annoys me to no end. Powder is fronting in almost every scene we see her with Silco. That would make no sense unless she felt her vulnerable side was safe and cherished with him. Given how softly he speaks with her, how patient he is with her, it is clear he does not want her to lose that side of her. He actively creates a safe space for her to be Powder, while giving her tasks that allow her to be Jinx. He loves both sides of her, which is why he says she is perfect even when she "chooses" Powder by killing him to save Vi.
I can't agree with the assessment.
Vi was a literal child / lost teenager who hasn't figured herself sufficiently out, as Vander pointed out.
Vi was actually a good parent figure, going by the flashbacks we got (going by a psychiartist). From the portrayla auf Powders character, just taking her toys along wouldn't have been acceptable. It would have further denied Powder the possibilty to learn, like with that roof jumping exercise. It would have likely lead to more mockery by Milo.
Vi was at the moment she oversteped traumatized by 3 deaths of family members seeing it was Powder (with her spotting the monkey head), having a dislocated shoulder and 2 1/2 near death experiences. I argue there are almost no grownups who'd acted differently put in Vi's situation and some who'd acted worse.
Powder actually had another parental figure in Vander, who isn't considered in discussions like this at all.
After the time jump Vi lacked a ton of information and the situations got either escalated without Vi even having the option to change anything or escalated because Jinx literally can't allow Vi any other attachment then to herself. The reading that Vi got somehow surprised that Jinx can fight is imho absurd. They literally fought before together, quite successfully. What does change is that Jinx get into a quite happy murder mode.
Last of all, Jinx is a grown up at the end. You can't point every personal failure on another person - which you wish to further abuse - and deny any and all personal responsibility.
though Vi did participate in the creation of Jinx, i think Jinx is wrong she said Silco didn't create her new persona.
Silco taught Powder to be like him, creating Jinx in the process. heck, he's the one who put her in that toxic lake because he's been in it and it "killed the weak part of him" and he wanted Jinx to kill her weak side, her Powder side as well.
he's also probably the one that told her that all violence is okay to achieve your goals. i mean, Powder was never violent, right ?
this mindset did make Jinx stronger than Powder was, and i think that's why she doesn't see that Silco is a part of the creation of Jinx. to her, he made her strong, that's all she sees so she only thinks Vi is to blame because of all that happened in episode 3.
honestly, it's Powder's whole story that created Jinx. it's Vi being that model to her, creating this anxious attachment. (this wasn't intentional though, Vi probably didn't know how deep this attachment was, she just knew her sister looked up to her). it's Mylo, always putting her down. it's Vi when she left her for a bit to calm down and not hurt her more in the end of ep3. it's Marcus when he took Vi to prison so she couldn't go back to her sister as she wanted to. and finally, it's Silco who found her, adopted her and raised her into Jinx.
Silco didn't make Jinx. He simply freed her.
Another Vi fan?
@@notjinx3545 another rational person
"Powder wasn't violent"
She made a nail bomb at like 10 what is this historical revisionism XD
@@claffy2 how did he free her? He let a really mentally ill kid live with NO boundaries and raised her in an environment where killing was normal (more normal than with vi and them) jinx wasn't actually jinx until Silco raised her that way. It's a mix of her trauma and abandonment issues that vi unintentionally fed into and Silco. I just can't see how abandonment issues and the same trauma vi carried as well alone makes jinx. Maybe after the fact that she killed her own family I can see her mind spiriling into the same PTSD and stuff now, but I believe if she went with vi instead she wouldn't be as prone to violence and as chaotic since silco literally gave her no boundaries. She definitely would have been more clingy to vi but I also don't think she'd have as much trust issues since silco pounded it into her head that she was betrayed and all they have is eachother. So she'd be less chaotic (I image reverting back to her mellow self with more panic attacks and way more easily triggered as the current jinx is), less violent, and less trusting issues. Of course she's still have all this but LESS since silco would've be there to tell her everything she does wrong is a okay and to encourage to violent mental tendencies. Instead of helping her, Silco encouraged all the bad thoughts and actions from her mental issues and put a fucking golden star on it.
Piltover created Jinx. The exploitative nature of the relationship between Piltover and Zaun created a ticking time bomb. Jinx is the embodiment of that bomb and the explosion that brings Piltover to the ground.
It's the classic story of a mad scientist creating a monster, and the monster kills the scientist.
How did Piltover ever exploit Zaun? It dont remember it being shown how the city benefited from a hive of criminals.
@@adrenjones9301 yeah they never actually show the relationship outside of the class disparity and dialogue drops. Apparently Piltover is using Zaun as a mining site for an extremely toxic substance, hence why Viktor has a disability and the chemical soup they called water. Wish they showed not told about the toxic mines and dangerous manufacturing that was supposed to be done happening in Zaun.
Vi created Jinx. Caused the explosion top side by breaking into a place she had no business of being and then keeping said material that her father said to dispose of that later causes their family to die. Vi is terrible and people need to stop simping and see said truth
@mysteryace2129 , unpopular take, but I agree. Every character is at fault for something, and that's why we see the domino effect of their actions on all our beloved characters. 😢💔
Being the youngest of the family I often happened to be treated with if I were still a suckling, not from much annoyance but in the long run it consumes you and I can totally see how much that have deeply impacted Powder/Jinx's life since She wanted so badly to be indipendent but She was kept inside a "cage" also for the notoriety of Zaun and the monsters It create.
Vi had so much pressure on her and forced to be like a second parent for ALL her siblings. She was agrieving child yet no one sees her pain, not even you, cause it's hidden while show clearly centers around jinx.
Silco didnt love jinx at the end, he loved her as his daughter. He was the only person that loved her with all her flaws
And that's why her powder side in a way dies with him, and she automatically chooses jinx.
But make no mistake. Jinx is still powder. Serious trauma can do that to you. It's called arrested development.
I don't think Vi didn't want to accept the violent nature that spawned through powder to make Jinx....
I think she didn't want to accept the violent nature Jinx because she's a constant reminder of her being partially responsible for the Creation OF Jinx..
Not many people blames silco. But it is understandable people tend to forgive or forget the murderer's fault s when the murderer who tried to kill the whole family took a pity on the last family member and spare her life.
It's like years or murder, complot, abuse, manipulation were magically ereased because he conforted the girl he kidnnaped and whose family murdered with his dying breath.
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I agree that part of Vi, but a disagree the part of silco. By silco I think that he has support Powder to become who she is now and I don't think that he knows that powder was called a Jinx (and I don't really think thats sevika would tell him that) I think it was powders choice to be called Jinx and he sees this as her way do become stronger, as someone who sympathize with her, he accepted and helped her in his own way. I'm pretty sure that when Powder decided do be called powder, silco would accept this either way, but she decided to Jinx and he accepted it, he accepted who she will be and become. When Vi can not accept jinx. And Silco saying to her "you're perfect" sounds to me like more "It doesn't matter who you will be, you're perfect" maybe I read to much in it, but that just my thoughts
That is how I took it, too. He did not say anything when Jinx asked Vi to choose which seat she sat in. He let her make her own decision, because he loved her either way. It wasn't until Vi ignored Jinx's need (to be chosen over Caitlyn) that he became furious, seeing he was right that Vi would leave her again. Also, in a sense, she "chose" Powder over Jinx by killing Silco to save Vi, and he still told her she was perfect. He loved Powder just as much as he loved Jinx, and Vi could never love Jinx.
I never thought about the dichotomy Powder/Jinx in terms of "no one completely loves me" thats a great point, but it's important to remember that her most important figure was Silco by the time of the third act, I don't think she really wanted to hurt Vi ir Silco, I been reading about that teory saying that Jinx shoot for a reflex, something for what she was trained, mixed with her trauma and all the "noise" on her head, the point it's that no one really created her, Jinx is the product of her environment and all the wrecked people around her.
I would argue Silco loved both sides of her. That is why we always see Powder fronting when she is with Silco.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 Silco used to love Powder, he did in the present like a father loves the memory of her now grown up daughter, it's true Powder is on the past now.
Jinx hates Powder but not Silco, cause on his memory (I theorize ) she still being the child who hug him, and was able to cure his loneliness, and with the time she became on her now "perfect" Jinx.
@@bm5466 I think we are saying the same thing, but in different ways? Silco loved Jinx as a child (Powder) and probably still saw her that way, while also recognizing and being proud of who she became (Jinx). In terms of how he uses the names, Powder = before the hug, Jinx = ever since, while he loves both sides of her in terms of who she is as a person in either state/at either point.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 Yes Indeed, same opinion, diferent points of view, very interesting..
early af, anyway I don’t really think it’s Vi’s fault, they both were heartbroken so I don’t really think it’s anyone’s problem
Top tier analysis im binging your videos
Watching this with the kimi no na wa music makes me want an amv for arcane with its music
really great video man, good work
THANK U FOR MAKING THE CORRECT VIDEO
I found it interesting u expect a child taking care of another child. sorta like in the immigration detention center where older children look after younger kids,u cant blame those older children. it's sad u blame those who pay the bills but not those who bring them into the situation.
but on the other hand, it's all the positive things vi said keeps her going,makes jinx stronger, together they'll make an impact upon the world in different aspects
"How could Powder have stayed "Powder"?"
Even bigger question: would that even be good for her?
Kind of, as cool as Jinx character desing is is not a sane neither a happy person. See Jinx at the third episode and is still a insecure child afraid of being abandones, who easily get jelous and tryes to impress his father figure to gain aprobation, she gets despised for everybody besides Silco even if now is stronger. Jinx is a lonely and sad person. Powder for all her short comings who came mostly from her youth was able to make relationships and had family and friends besides Vi.
Now I understand the situation even better, I never knew why she had two chairs one that says Powder and one that says Jinx. Now I understand that nobody accepted both sides, but I think Jinx only wanted acceptance, Powder is just past that messed up all the time.
Edit: but she still wants her sister, that Silco's side would not have
The last words Vi says to Powder cemented her trauma, unintentional as it might be. Vi still struck her sister and said “because you’re a jinx,Milo was Right”. That right there, her sister, saying that Powder’s bully brother was right and calling her Jinx like Milo always did. We Find out at the beginning of act two. Powder is haunted by Milo,her bully. I mean it. What a Greek tragedy. I want Ekko to time travel and save Powder from permanent trauma, or at least lessen it. Ekko&Jinx best couple in Arcane ❤❤❤
you're the first video essayist i've seen who pointed out that vi let her sister get bullied for years right in front of her and did nothing meaningful about it. we see her confront mylo later, but it was far too late at that point, because powder believed that vi agreed with mylo. not necessarily because of what she said, but because of her inaction when it mattered.
idk... as an older sibling with a similar age gap, it's hard not to judge vi harshly for it. it's one thing if the kid brother or sister is bullied in school when it's out of your hands. and you just can't protect them all the time even when you want to. but to have it happen right there, multiple times, and just let it pass is hard to forgive for me. but that's part of the character-writing that makes this show so precious, everybody has deep flaws.
the masterful tragic twists of arcane stem from the feeling that they are inevitable on some levels, and so, easily preventable on other levels.
Did we watch the same show or something ? vi yelled at mylo for putting powder down and many times vi have defended powder. I really think we watch a different show lol
you didnt even mention the fact that Powder thought Vi abandoned her when she was arrested.
great analysis. earned my sub
2:44 this is the part when I feel like vi can’t save powder
2:29 that's the bridge? I thought it was the top of some building.
My arcane depression is still here
Nice video but you didn't really explain how Vi created Jinx except the scene where she leaves her. Best not to forget where you started when you conclude the video.
Alright where are the onion cuttin' ninjas?
I’m just saying that mistakes were made on everyone’s end and could’ve done more, Council included
The real reason she chose to be jinx over powder is because powder is not a lol champion...
One thing that did annoy me was Vi talking the opps about Jinx. I know she didn’t mean harm by it but that was then the basis of any peace deal for Zaun. People say Jinx jinxed any hope for peace but there never would have been peace as Piltover demanded Jinx’s arrest which Silco wouldn’t have done any more than Vander would’ve.
Jinx def gives off bpd vibes
Vi loves Powder but she was a toxic sister
My view: Vi made a lot of mistakes with Powder, not just the ones pointed out in this video.
Powder was a young child. Vi should never have taken her on missions, particularly dangerous ones. I totally get that she wanted to help Powder become capable and feel like part of the group, but she could have done this by having her help with prep supplies, devise tactics etc - things that Powder demonstrates capability in without putting her in harm's way. Vi could have still taught her parkour without it being used for missions, more to help her run or navigate away from trouble. She could have joined missions when she was older, if/once she actually was able to handle all the aspects that come with it.
She kept telling Powder that she's ready - so the one time she tells her she's not, totally breaks her. It's a betrayal and would come across like she's never believed she was ready to begin with. So of course Powder would feel abandoned and worthless and desperately want to find a way to prove herself.
Vi knows how dangerous her missions are, and how dangerous the Undercity can be. Just because she's grown up a fighter (and it would appear this was condoned by Vander, at least in some ways), it doesn't mean Powder should have been exposed to more of that and pushed in that direction.
Vi can't have it both ways - she can't expect Powder to be exposed to all the trauma, hate for Topside and enforcers, encouraged to help on dangerous missions etc, and remain sweet and innocent as well. She wanted a better life for Powder, but immersed her in things that only served to compound her misery.
Of course Vi is a child herself, and should never have been placed in the situation where she had to act as defacto parent. She can't be expected to have the skills necessary to parent a traumatised child. Vander is ultimately at fault for not shouldering that responsibility.
WRONG MILO DID
Arcane glowup video?
Sauce to the music???
She got problems even before. Her crying when she was left when they went to save Wander was kinda a bit over the edge too.
Is it alright to say that the things that happened to this characters were really meant to happen or that it's really there fate? But why is Jinx's life so sad and depressing? I hope some good things happens to her in season 2
Jinx is very similar to a bomb. Vi was the one who created it, but Silco was the one who set it off.
I don't think Vi created Jinx:
Vi is still a child herself.
Jinx was allready with Powder on the Bridge, in episode one (scribbly face on enforcer)
If at all the violent and traumatising systhem of piltover created Jinx.
And Vi, being a human and no god failed to do the impossible to save her sister Powder from the terror of structural violence.
I actually think violent sythems like piltover, but in the real world, are exactly how terrorists and murderers are "raised".
Like Piltover summoned Jinx, the violent systhem's of our world summon violent people to leash out at us.
Vi started Jinx but Silco finished her
Honestly I thin that seeds of Jnx were always there, she used to put nails in bombs
If only Vi could bring Powder along as marksman support, instead of leaving her behind totally...
They didn't have weapons that Powder could use back then, the safest chose was left her in a safe place as Ekko has.
Damn bro it feels like you do 90% of arcane content on TH-cam, don't get me wrong it's all great but you should probably chill out there, maybe try to explore something not arcane related. Cuz when I see one of your videos I think "oh well it's the arcane guy" anyway I watch all of them because your analysis is great, but arcane won't get spikes in 2022 until the season 2 will be brought so it's kinda dying and it's sad to see your views doing so as well. I hope you got me right
This is kinda sad
So that’s vi, Vi created jinx
Jesus bless
wdym nobody loves jinx
i do
Many people likes to blame Vi, but I think that she didn't created Jinx at all. I think that Jinx was always there, in the brindge, when Powder wanted to put nails on bombs, when Powder throw bombs to people, Jinx was alredy there. But Vi kept her controled, Jinx never had the need to take full control because Powder was feeling safe and loved around Vi, even if others got angry at her, Vi was always there to defend her and give her the good speech. The moment Vi is taken away Powder losses that support and Jinx start taking control, encoraged by Silco. Vi never had let Powder kill for fun, but Silco encoraged that behaviour. Vi didn't create Jinx, she was the leash who kept the alredy existing Jinx under control.
Willow fans?
the only responsible for jinx being jinx is herself. If you have a choice for being better and don't take it, the solo responsible is you
I think that by the end of the show that's true. I feel sorry for the little Powder, but as time passes her situation start becoming more her dessition since she ins not longer a child dependent of others but a woman who takes her choices and should be responsible of them.
Is Jinx lesbian and Powder pan?
Neither of them have a canonical sexuality.
Vi did not create Jinx. Silco did by nurturing her hatred and resentment. Of course, Jinx won't see it that way, but he killed Powder and buried her and brought Jinx to the surface.
I think she chose Jinx too cause Silco said she’s perfect. In everything that she is, powder and jinx are the same and he realized that and so did she.
Can you hurry tf up and make more videos. Jesus Christ. Mr put addictive chemicals in his videos then not put out 🙄 I need my drugs bro
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Idgaf Vi is at fault. Brother, sister or any family punch and diss me you’re dead to me