@steviewonders4913 Oasis played there September 94 I was there and it was there only performance there I wasn't there for them I was out any way and just happened to see it still got an original poster from the night my mate nicked and gave to me
@@SPARKLEPANDA4LIFE im happy to be proved wrong as a knowitall dude.. i know music very well and spent a decade in Manhester..I saw Oasis play in fallowfield,Verve play to 40 and was at Mondays legendary OSM saturday afternoon rave up. but yep i didnt know Oasis played Hacienda in 94..i will google this and then hold my hands up and shout ''my bad''
100% Well Said Mate! 👏 That was the last thing we wanted to see when out raving,the whole scene went shady once they started coming into raves and when jungle started aswell 👍
I had one foot out of the rave scene by 1991. It was mostly all over for me by then. The feeling of unity had gone. I remember being in a club in the early days, just after acid house was over and there was only about 50 of us in this club and we were all watching each other, trying to figure out how to dance properly. It was fookin’ beautiful!!
I have been around a lot of gangsters before and people with bad reputations and most of the time they are a ticking bomb waiting to ruin someone night. I've even met hardmen who have claimed to not be bullies, but will actively call someone out for something minor they have done to have them react, to justify attacking them. There are reasons these people have hundreds of fights. I myself am big and look intimidating but very kind and very rarely get into fights
My clubbing days were ended by two bouncers in Liverpool, they thought I was dealing drugs so they dragged me to the back of the club and literally kicked my head in, they then searched me and found no drugs because I wasn’t dealing. I later found out that they were the drug dealers in that club. The experience was so traumatic that I stopped going out. ☹️
Had a similar experience in Birmingham air/gate rather some Asian bouncer accused me of it. Took me outside tried to get me to strip naked , threatened to throw me off the balcony.....got the head bouncer/ owner whatever he was , they found half a pill he just slapled me round the head and told me to get back in. The Asian guy wanted to do me in 😂
What club .051 was mental yrs ago amongst many more like quad ,cream ,state.The days of yesteryear long gone .Been the 051 since it reopen last Yr and a lit more mild than yrs ago.Never a bad night in Liverpool
@@PerpetualAlfa When the mafia ran Vegas they made the average joe feel like a VIP. Meals, tickets to shows, etc were often comped because they just wanted people to spend their money gambling. Unlike the corporations who operate every aspect as a money making business. The mafia didn't care if the casino restaurant wasn't making money, their bottom line was all about skimming off the top of gambling revenue. Giving periphery services away for free made people want to keep coming back and recommending to friends etc. Everything other than gambling was basically a loss leader for the Mafia in Vegas
They’re the reason we call jungle drum and bass these days. Violence from yardie gangs at jungle nights got so bad in 94 it became impossible for promoters to put a jungle night on so they had to rebrand the entire genre.
I remember that night, it was in June just after the reopening in May 91. They thought that a new security team from London would stop some of the trouble with the local gangs, and they were wrong. They lasted a month until the Salford lot stabbed 6 of them at a special Midsummer’s night in June. It was never the same with Damian Noonan on the door, and went downhill from there until the end. We stopped going regularly after the 11th birthday party in May 93 when both Mike Pickering and David Morales were threatened by “gangsters” at pretty much the same time; one in the DJ booth upstairs and one in the DJ both downstairs. Mike gave up his residency after that, and Morales never played the club again. We used to travel to clubs in other cities like Liverpool, Leeds, and Birmingham amongst others, and the atmosphere in clubs there was noticeable less dodgy than the Haçienda. Todd Terry played the Haç NYE 95, and that seemed like too good of a night to miss, but it was violent as fuck. I saw some unfortunate lad get absolutely smashed by a load of Salford in the toilets for no reason, and there was rumours of a shooting after a big brawl on the dancefloor. We were all loved up and having a great time, and then all of a sudden there was chaos and girls screaming running away. Sadly the thugs ruined most of the decent clubs in Manchester, and pretty much killed a very vibrant scene
@@enquirer2.0 no, never did Shelley’s, but did the first ever Renaissance in Mansfield and had many a good night there with the man like Sasha. Drove over there after the Haç closed a few times, and that was a drive and a half to catch the last couple of hours.
Went to a rave in Manchester, (hardcore, techno, trance) in about 92/93. We got in took our 🪩buiscuits and met some really nice like minded kids too. It was an allnighter until 6am but at about 12am when the pubs kicked out it went absolutely mental, fights a stabbing and some girl got seriously assaulted.. Manchester was so scary back then.
Watching your videos makes me glad I lead a straight path and never got involved in any shenanigans, it doesn’t seem to end well for a lot of people who chose the wrong path in life.
@enquirer2.0 I knew a gangster named jonty hall who was a known enforcer bully. Very horrible man too many. Eventually his 3-4 friends who was supposed to protect him turned against him like a pack of wild dogs. Even chopped his bits off. He had that untouchable auro but after hearing about that I got away from any one like that. I was only 21 now in my thirties and ways happier. Ain't been in any trouble since I was 22
I used to live in Salford during Uni. back in mid 00's. We were lads with long hair listening to metal music. We were very different from the area. Our house got targeted by local chavs. Knocking on all the time asking for cigs. Starting shit in the street. So. There used to be a cafe where the wife of a Noonan used to either work or run. I cant remember. My mates mum. Who lived on the same road. Knew this woman and was quite friendly wirh her. She had a word about what was happening and all of a sudden we didnt have any trouble. Like. It all just went away.
@@enquirer2.0 I have to say your work is really top notch. Very informative. Please keep it up. Of course, sometimes you have to cover some old ground as a lot of these events are notorious but don't let that stop you from revisiting those events. There's always more detail to be found and new perspectives to explore. It's strange how some of the top nightclubs sprung up in unexpected places. I'm a Burnley lad and we had Angels which was unbelievable for its time. They'd actually run buses from many of the top cities to Burnley, just to visit Angels. Tall Trees in Yarm was another strange one. A superclub in a village. Angels Burnley had the same issues as Hacienda. Once people realised the worth of running the door, who in turn ran the dealers, everyone wanted a piece.
@@antsg373Cumbrian lad here, agreed 👍 We never got to Angels but Tall Trees was later in the 90s for us. We went from Workington to Glasgow, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle,Boro, Sunderland, Blackpool and Milton Keynes. To mention a few. Good times. Never be the same imho.❤ Great video mate.
@@Oldgold-zo3et They tried it with us in Canal Bar once, when we were just minding our own business. One of our lads slightly brushed past one of them and it was packed like a football terrace, the next minute it’s were from Salford blah blah….and we were like so fucking what, we’re from South Manchester and there’s about 30 of us 🤷♂️
Me and a few mates were at the hacienda that night it was chaos and very intimidating to be locked inside while the police surrounded the place. Let's say my university mates who had travelled up from Northampton to sample the famous nightspot were petrified and never visited Manchester again. But they had a cracking story to tell.
Nah mate, you lot ruined it for yourselves. All wanting to go and take gear, expecting it all to be sunshine and rainbows? No wonder your generation fucked our planet into oblivion, you're all of you're fkn nuts.
I miss Manchester and Salford from back then. I was studying audio engineering at the time and thanks to a local mate we'd regularly hang out in the Hacienda, the Boardwalk and a few other places. My favourite was the Boardwalk, mostly down to it being cosy and Dave Haslam being a DJ there. I lived right next to Cheetham Hill within smelling distance of Boddy's brewery. I'd regularly hear gunshot from the Hill. I later moved down to the Quays right before it got rebuilt, and we'd regularly go to the PSV club at this time. Great days even though it was obviously dodgy at times.
I was a long term Haç regular from 1987 onwards. it was the best place on earth til the gangs stepped in and completely ruined it. Major Tom (serious man) once told me that he had declined control of the door because they had to have a handgun behind the counter...
I feel so sorry for his mother she wanted to find were her son was buried before she died which I find so so I said she still never got to find out were her son was buried, 😥😉🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL she was mate honestly it's in that gangs of Manchester book also I have heard it in some other articles and once on the news , I admit I don't know for sure pal but even if he isn't it's still a sad story about Winnie🙏🙏🙏😉
@enquirer2.0 I have to say your work is really top notch. Very informative. Please keep it up. Of course, sometimes you have to cover some old ground as a lot of these events are notorious but don't let that stop you from revisiting those events. There's always more detail to be found and new perspectives to explore. It's strange how some of the top nightclubs sprung up in unexpected places. I'm a Burnley lad and we had Angels which was unbelievable for its time. They'd actually run buses from many of the top cities to Burnley, just to visit Angels. Tall Trees in Yarm was another strange one. A superclub in a village. Angels Burnley had the same issues as Hacienda. Once people realised the worth of running the door, who in turn ran the dealers, everyone wanted a piece.
Angels was spot on. Couple of army mates live next to TURF, so once we’d come back from Northern Ireland, dropped the disco biscuits, quarters of whizz it was a fucking buzz😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@henryclarke5363 Same respect to you too, but it is well documented and my experience that the Hac was one of the first clubs to establish itself as a trendsetter and early adopter to the scene…it shaped the scene long before others popped up in liverpool, Leeds, Derby, Nottingham and Birmingham etc
I have heard about the Noonan family from Manchester, Damion and Dessie Noonan, were very hard men by all accounts but, that Dominic Noonan was nothing but a nonce who lived off his brothers reputation, and if I’m totally honest I haven’t heard anything about the other brother.
Derek ?? silly man dom didn't hide behind his brothers and half the offences he got charged for was while he was in jail complete set up from the police
I used to go there regularly in 1988/89. There was never really any atmosphere of violence there then, unlike some of the London clubs and warehouse parties that I used to go to around the same time.
By 1992, the bouncers were dickheads on the Hac. Said I wasn’t old enough to come in once, even though I was 22 and saw me most weeks. Made me travel 35 miles to get I.d. One night, then didn’t even look at it and just let me in. One week they didn’t let my mate in because they didn’t like the colour of his t shirt. It was grey?
There was so many good place's for a good night out in Manchester no trouble at all, the Hacienda was just a Cliché and a product of its own downfall. The scene ruined it with the drug culture, because at this time Indie and Brit pop was massive so you were spoilt for choice on venues and people won't pay to be in a slaughter house. Manchester's night life is shit now taken over by the big boys and the over priced sports bars, the only saving grace are the Pubs that are still around the City Centre.
I was a regular visitor during these years and although it always had that moody scary edge to it I had no idea of all this that was going on behind the scenes. Thankfully was just a clueless teenager at the time
I remember the Noonans and their pals trying to take the door at CJs in Sheffield. I was in there. Walked in and these unknown guys in suits and some in dicky bows at a rave seemed well out of place, Not gona say any local names but that night so much stuff kicked off. One Manchester lad got plenty of shot in his leg in the toilet. All the locals started going in via the fire exits. The door was a lost cause. They never came back . CJs was probably the worst place to try and get a foothold into as everyone knew each other . The owner Colin was well respected,nobody was taking that door then or no other time.
Got up there one night from Devon to be turned away at the door. They didn't say why and we certainly weren't gonna start arguing with them. We probably looked like chumps to be fair. Gutted to this day.
Never went to the hac. Was gonna go one night with me pals after a day festival in leeds....i was so mullered i fell over and broke my collar bone,spent the night pointlessy in leeds general getting it strapped. Got back to the flat and my mates turned up later saying the night was ruined by seeing a guy getting an eye gouged out in a corner of the club. Didnt sound great.....
Good vid mate, I lived through this I was only a young fella and didn't start doing the doors till end of the 90s. For some reason Dessi had a proper hardon for me and would single me out and always be grabbing me and messing with me, Damian used to tell me to try and stay away from him as he didn't like how he acted around me, he wasn't violent just a bit creepy not sexual either just non stop messing that would escalate if i got wound up. Massey and Damian were always sound blokes and would let us in hac and phoenix for free and looked after us when we were young uns.
@@henryclarke5363 What was the name of the boss i knew him to chat with cant remember his name for the life of me. Was a hidden gem that place some amazing dJ's and nights.
Hi Ben being from dublin I'm not familiar with this story however it's a very interesting story well presented good stuff,hope ur keeping well pal best wishes regards Jay 👍
I was 18 in 1982 and met them all ,did all the clubs and pubs in town throughout the 80s and 90s upto around 2010 .Was always best to stay in the background and just watch and listen and keep your mouth shut ,too old now at 60 though but i was there 👌
I watched it change in The HAC . From 1988-91 it was cool full of creatives Hairdressers , Students etc . After 91 the gangs moved in & with them the obvious violence . The cool people left but some went Flesh the gay night at The HAC instead.
Friday 10th May 1991, when the MEN oddly referred to us as '1000 VIP revellers' on the Saturday newspaper. It made the front page of the MEN (I'm in the picture), the public opening was on the 11th, the Saturday night. They had installed what the MEN called 'a metal detector door similar to MCR airport'. The place played a big part in our weekends. I remember the night with the helicopter, blood on the stairs from the mezzanine down to the dancefloor & the crowd having to leave through a police corridor.
I remember the night salford came and took over the scene in Blackburn. My pal broke his leg jumping from a second floor window. Thats when i first heard of Massey
it was £2 a bottle of Sapporo Japanese quality beer and apart from a couple of months in 1990 the average queue time was max 20 mins for 3 years between 88-91 I went there almost every friday..sorry to inform u but your comment is just ill informed stupidness john..
@@johnnunn8688 sarcasm aint my bag, i tend to actually have respect for a person who can see past the ' I have to win this mini battle of comments' and accept they dont impress anyone trying to double down and win war of words that was lost by them before it even began..honest.. btw sarcasm doesn't drip by its very nature the emoj would need to be dry if it dripped at you..i would have sent you a smirking emoji slippery in its gleeful disdain
The ONLY crew of proper Doormen old school style was based at the 21 Club opposite Piccadilly gardens..nobody ever messed with that team..around the corner standing around 5 ft 5 was Jimmy the legend so there was never any trouble and it was a massive club..i was improvising with a radio mike to House music and i danced my feet off!! It was a brilliant club classy and friendly..But it wasnt a drug den..The Hacienda was a bit off the beaten track, i really cant understand how Tony Wilson didnt have the Manchester door crew?? They were respected but fearsome and some ex army guys amongst them..ive seen Jimmy the legend chaise away like 6 threatening with guns a club on Oldham street..its a shame Hacienda was targeted by the local thugs..i guess the real hardmen just couldnt be bothered so the wanna be lot moved in..shame Hacienda was becomming a legend, Wilson wasnt a thug he was a music guy with Waterman..but thugs ruined it all..sad but Manchester now is on the up so hopefully the small time thugs will disapear and safe happy nights out will come around once more..im 71 so ive seen it all..
Some big things got completely wrong here. Tony Wilson was never the manager of either Joy Division or New Order. And New Order went to Ibiza to record Technique in 1988 not 1986. Which might sound pedantic but the whole point you make is the acid house influence and there was none of that in 1986 even in Ibiza
Pills are the future, unbashed. Sassafras is essential, sod the grabbing yanks. Booze is the past, as Wigan Casino proved, just those few years before rave/Hac took off.
Wasn't from a book it was written by me but I used multiple sources from articles with Tony Wilson the co founder, The book Gangs, archive News articles , spoke to several friends who used to deal in there from Stoke back in the day aswell
@jamesfaircloth5469 i found it!! John Barry, Space March (capsule in space) from You Only Live Twice. There's quite a few remixes out there, not sure which one is used here. But Moonraker was a great shout.
Technotrance Yarrr by D-Shake, It was played there a lot in early 1990s, classic track at the Hacienda that got the dance floor bouncing when the pupils were dilated ;-)
I remember going to Glastonbury in that era, being teenagers we just turned up and climbed the fence as a lot did back then, but there were rumours there was a group of drug dealers from Manchester stopping people climbing the fence and charging them money "to help" them climb over, luckily we got over with no issue but we heard quite a few stories about people who got a bit roughed up by the drug dealers when getting in.
You had to be an absolute mug to spend 30 quid on a pill back in the early 90s. Disco Biscuits were a tenner a pop, and they were the best gear back then.
@@gavinwock6133 10 doves for £60 in club..but you had to charge your mates a fuckin tennner ..you know the ones ! didnt want to have hassle of sortin it themselves but would have a right face on em..when u tell them'' he aint got speckled doves this week''. the monkeys pay 10 and me I double drop 4 free lol
Trying to recall the names of all the clubs I visited around the north west back in the day. Feel free to chime in: Wigan Pier, Hacienda, Quadrant Park, Was it Bowlers in Manchester?, Back To Basics in Leeds maybe or was that the name of the night? There was one in Warrington I can't remember the name of but we'd go there regularly. I'm sure there was many more but I can't rememer the names. Some of the best times of my life in all honesty
Bowlers was a top night, massive crowds with a broad mix of people, and the only aggro I ever saw/encountered was from the security who seemed intent on fighting a hilariously losing battle with drugs that weren't theirs
I was around on that night, i reckon it was because there was a docco being filmed and also Paul Ferris was down from Scotland and hanging with everyone and telling stories, and i honestly think Massey was trying to show he was as dangerous as Ferris, coke beer and story topping is what i think happened, was a bad affair all round and plenty of regrets after.
well you obviously know more about it than me so fair enough,never heard jibbed in that context in relation to stabbing but im from liverpool where its always meant to stop or quit something, anyway minor point....nice one
Hot was not the first night. Nude was already well established. Hot was a midweek night famous for having a swimming pool off to the side of the dancefloor. Nude introduced Chicago house and took a while to go really take off - quality night. Things escalated as the Acid House scene took off
spot on. I was a friday hac Nude regular from 86 onwards. Very sparse select crowd, enjoying the new Chicago house imports. Couldnt be doing with the jonny-cum-lately E-crowd who suddenly turned up by the 1000s around july'88. Started going less, up to around 91, when i was turned away from the queue for no reason, by some cnt bouncer. And then weeks later, i witnessed a knockout assault with a serious relentless headstomping, looking down on the dancefloor, from upstairs on the balcony. Never went again, except for that Pet Shop Boys/10th birthday bash.
@@deegee8645 It's easy to spot those that actually went by comments like this. It really was a sparse crowd. I could turn up at 12:30 and still just wander in compared to when the Smiley generation found it and they were queuing at 6pm. A really cool crowd too, predominantly black and able to dance , just really cool music. Around '90 I'd thrown my hand in, too risky. By sight I knew a lot of the various gangs and it didn't make for a comfortable night, although strangely if I took a friend from out of town they didn't pick up on it. I had girlfriends from Cardiff and Glasgow at various times and they loved it. Watching it go from a cool members club (right at the beginning) to such a moody gaff was hard.
I live in liverpool now and seen albanians getting terrorised by the scousers on 2 occasions now haha. Take no crap the scousers lived all over the country they are the keenest when it comes to taking it to these foreigners
That same mob beat up all the touts outside the free trade hall happy mondays gig all had walkie talkies I thought police until they started kicking shit out the touts 😂
I remember these times, it proper ruined the Madchester vibe, it was scary 💔 I'm a Manc, I Love the place but I raved elsewhere around the late 90s, it was wild west tackle with door war's wrecking the night blood and anger took business away and places closed
I went to the Hacienda one night in 92. Had a great night, ended up in an after hours drinking place. Got warned by my Manc mate to keep quiet as the place was full of local gangsters who'd hate my Southern accent.
@@joeankard very true mate. I feel like that creepy little brat in that film, where he lets-on... "I See Thick People". I am cast adrift in a sea of eedjits.
Remeber that documentary about the noonan brother and some kids were shouting shit at him , did they get served for that? . Because they are a crime family
Picture at 6:10 Nathan McGough next to Tony Wilson. Nathan was Happy Mondays manager through the Bummed, Madchester and Thrills PIll eras - top lad Nathan
TThere should of been a standard rule that anybody in or watching the club had to take an E on entry,,macho shit fixed,,,everybody loved up, sorted happy punters, happy money spent everybodys happy😂
@Numanoid84 I'm from Blackburn l remember when Massey and a few lads came to Blackburn in 89' I think... they just put the frighteners on and took over from the Smith's (not morrisey 😊) who had the raves going and the Sett End. A pal of mine broke his leg jumping out of a window to get away... that was my first introduction to them lads they were a formidable outfit and they had the numbers as well.
@Numanoid84 I kind of met Doyle a couple of years later he turned up in a lambo or something to collect a few quid. The lad who he was collecting off was definitely no Joey and Doyle wasn't happy about something or other, anyway I was sat on a wall watching as Doyle gave him a bit of a telling off 😂. Blackburns a rough town but there are levels
Used to travel down from Blackburn for friday nude night from jan 89 to about june 89 went kitchen a couple of times also blackburn had its corner of the hac...
For those claiming Oasis never did the Haciebda you are WRONG.. They played their 1994 to launch Definately Maybe Fact Check It ❤
'Definately Maybe'? I'm not familiar with that particular opus
Oasis washed up at Salford Lads Club. Tony Wilson would have booked them if he wanted. RIP.
@steviewonders4913 Oasis played there September 94 I was there and it was there only performance there I wasn't there for them I was out any way and just happened to see it still got an original poster from the night my mate nicked and gave to me
@@SPARKLEPANDA4LIFE im happy to be proved wrong as a knowitall dude.. i know music very well and spent a decade in Manhester..I saw Oasis play in fallowfield,Verve play to 40 and was at Mondays legendary OSM saturday afternoon rave up. but yep i didnt know Oasis played Hacienda in 94..i will google this and then hold my hands up and shout ''my bad''
@@SPARKLEPANDA4LIFE MY BAD !
The scene was ruined by all that gangster shit. When you’re off your head the last thing you need is to be in a moody venue.
100% Well Said Mate! 👏 That was the last thing we wanted to see when out raving,the whole scene went shady once they started coming into raves and when jungle started aswell 👍
Absolutely correct, they f*cked everything up. Jungle just made the whole scene moody, that was the end of the good vibe sadly.
I had one foot out of the rave scene by 1991. It was mostly all over for me by then. The feeling of unity had gone. I remember being in a club in the early days, just after acid house was over and there was only about 50 of us in this club and we were all watching each other, trying to figure out how to dance properly. It was fookin’ beautiful!!
but that is how it ends up it gets popular there’s money to be made the scumbags move in, the end
I have been around a lot of gangsters before and people with bad reputations and most of the time they are a ticking bomb waiting to ruin someone night. I've even met hardmen who have claimed to not be bullies, but will actively call someone out for something minor they have done to have them react, to justify attacking them. There are reasons these people have hundreds of fights. I myself am big and look intimidating but very kind and very rarely get into fights
All they ever did was destroy anything good. What an utterly pathetic and worthless life.
My clubbing days were ended by two bouncers in Liverpool, they thought I was dealing drugs so they dragged me to the back of the club and literally kicked my head in, they then searched me and found no drugs because I wasn’t dealing. I later found out that they were the drug dealers in that club. The experience was so traumatic that I stopped going out. ☹️
And your name on here is disco biscuit 😂😂😂
Had a similar experience in Birmingham air/gate rather some Asian bouncer accused me of it. Took me outside tried to get me to strip naked , threatened to throw me off the balcony.....got the head bouncer/ owner whatever he was , they found half a pill he just slapled me round the head and told me to get back in. The Asian guy wanted to do me in 😂
OK Discobiscuit
What club .051 was mental yrs ago amongst many more like quad ,cream ,state.The days of yesteryear long gone .Been the 051 since it reopen last Yr and a lit more mild than yrs ago.Never a bad night in Liverpool
Went to voodoo in le bateau...... Great night @@eburgess5655
Gangsters ruined everything, clubs, music, drugs, everything they touch turns to shite while they line their pockets
Apart from the Mafia when they ran Las Vegas. By all accounts Vegas was lot better and safer when it was ran by the Mob.
Gangsters ruined drugs ? 😂😂
And somehow, the present Labour government is much, much worse.
@@PerpetualAlfa When the mafia ran Vegas they made the average joe feel like a VIP. Meals, tickets to shows, etc were often comped because they just wanted people to spend their money gambling. Unlike the corporations who operate every aspect as a money making business. The mafia didn't care if the casino restaurant wasn't making money, their bottom line was all about skimming off the top of gambling revenue. Giving periphery services away for free made people want to keep coming back and recommending to friends etc. Everything other than gambling was basically a loss leader for the Mafia in Vegas
They’re the reason we call jungle drum and bass these days. Violence from yardie gangs at jungle nights got so bad in 94 it became impossible for promoters to put a jungle night on so they had to rebrand the entire genre.
I remember that night, it was in June just after the reopening in May 91. They thought that a new security team from London would stop some of the trouble with the local gangs, and they were wrong. They lasted a month until the Salford lot stabbed 6 of them at a special Midsummer’s night in June. It was never the same with Damian Noonan on the door, and went downhill from there until the end. We stopped going regularly after the 11th birthday party in May 93 when both Mike Pickering and David Morales were threatened by “gangsters” at pretty much the same time; one in the DJ booth upstairs and one in the DJ both downstairs. Mike gave up his residency after that, and Morales never played the club again. We used to travel to clubs in other cities like Liverpool, Leeds, and Birmingham amongst others, and the atmosphere in clubs there was noticeable less dodgy than the Haçienda. Todd Terry played the Haç NYE 95, and that seemed like too good of a night to miss, but it was violent as fuck. I saw some unfortunate lad get absolutely smashed by a load of Salford in the toilets for no reason, and there was rumours of a shooting after a big brawl on the dancefloor. We were all loved up and having a great time, and then all of a sudden there was chaos and girls screaming running away. Sadly the thugs ruined most of the decent clubs in Manchester, and pretty much killed a very vibrant scene
I worked up there until a few weeks before that NYE, and that's exactly how my mates told me the night went. I was glad to be shot of the place.
@@SimonRedgers-z2w you didn’t miss anything. It was £45 a ticker too, and that’s 29 years ago!
Great Post and very accurate. Did you ever go Shelleys Stoke on Trent?
@@enquirer2.0 no, never did Shelley’s, but did the first ever Renaissance in Mansfield and had many a good night there with the man like Sasha. Drove over there after the Haç closed a few times, and that was a drive and a half to catch the last couple of hours.
Went to a rave in Manchester, (hardcore, techno, trance) in about 92/93. We got in took our 🪩buiscuits and met some really nice like minded kids too. It was an allnighter until 6am but at about 12am when the pubs kicked out it went absolutely mental, fights a stabbing and some girl got seriously assaulted.. Manchester was so scary back then.
Dom standing there with a machete in one hand and a bottle of Diddy oil in the other telling them next time he'll cut there pants off 🤣😂🤣😂
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😅 hed be running for the youngest one!
Yeah, ‘punishment’. 🤣
Dom 'P Diddly from TEMU' Noncey Noonan
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Another good vid. Nice little tribute to Tony Wilson at the end there as well mate.
Wilson spurned the Smiths
@@joerigger2330 he was very Alan partridge, but was a big influence on a lot of stuff after the Smiths
Watching your videos makes me glad I lead a straight path and never got involved in any shenanigans, it doesn’t seem to end well for a lot of people who chose the wrong path in life.
It dosent end well very brutal life only misery comes from ut in the end
@enquirer2.0 I knew a gangster named jonty hall who was a known enforcer bully. Very horrible man too many. Eventually his 3-4 friends who was supposed to protect him turned against him like a pack of wild dogs. Even chopped his bits off. He had that untouchable auro but after hearing about that I got away from any one like that. I was only 21 now in my thirties and ways happier. Ain't been in any trouble since I was 22
I used to live in Salford during Uni. back in mid 00's. We were lads with long hair listening to metal music. We were very different from the area. Our house got targeted by local chavs. Knocking on all the time asking for cigs. Starting shit in the street.
So.
There used to be a cafe where the wife of a Noonan used to either work or run. I cant remember. My mates mum. Who lived on the same road. Knew this woman and was quite friendly wirh her. She had a word about what was happening and all of a sudden we didnt have any trouble. Like. It all just went away.
This was one of your best yet.
I have fond memories of the Hacienda.
Thankyou mate
Brilliant video and story
@@enquirer2.0mate any video on Derek noonan
@@enquirer2.0 I have to say your work is really top notch. Very informative. Please keep it up. Of course, sometimes you have to cover some old ground as a lot of these events are notorious but don't let that stop you from revisiting those events. There's always more detail to be found and new perspectives to explore. It's strange how some of the top nightclubs sprung up in unexpected places. I'm a Burnley lad and we had Angels which was unbelievable for its time. They'd actually run buses from many of the top cities to Burnley, just to visit Angels. Tall Trees in Yarm was another strange one. A superclub in a village. Angels Burnley had the same issues as Hacienda. Once people realised the worth of running the door, who in turn ran the dealers, everyone wanted a piece.
@@antsg373Cumbrian lad here, agreed 👍 We never got to Angels but Tall Trees was later in the 90s for us. We went from Workington to Glasgow, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle,Boro, Sunderland, Blackpool and Milton Keynes. To mention a few. Good times. Never be the same imho.❤ Great video mate.
Matthew 26:52 "Live by the sword, die by the sword"
Dom 1:1 live by the pork sword, suck on the pork sword
Alright you’ve been hanging around my recommendations for months, I’ll watch it.
Up here in North Manchester every other lad says their dad used to be a bouncer at Hacienda , and I’m not joking.
😂😂
That’s really funny cos most were from South Manchester 😂
@@billypower9679 I know, crazy how some people latch onto other peoples notoriety to try and seem tough , and it’s obvious they are lying a mile off 😂
Typical Salford lads, " do you know who I am? "Do you know where I'm from"
@@Oldgold-zo3et They tried it with us in Canal Bar once, when we were just minding our own business. One of our lads slightly brushed past one of them and it was packed like a football terrace, the next minute it’s were from Salford blah blah….and we were like so fucking what, we’re from South Manchester and there’s about 30 of us 🤷♂️
Me and a few mates were at the hacienda that night it was chaos and very intimidating to be locked inside while the police surrounded the place. Let's say my university mates who had travelled up from Northampton to sample the famous nightspot were petrified and never visited Manchester again. But they had a cracking story to tell.
I'm from Canada
@@seltonk5136it’s not even a real country any waaaaay
@@seltonk5136well done
So called gangsters ruin everything
Cry about it you big baby 😂
Nah mate, you lot ruined it for yourselves. All wanting to go and take gear, expecting it all to be sunshine and rainbows? No wonder your generation fucked our planet into oblivion, you're all of you're fkn nuts.
I miss Manchester and Salford from back then.
I was studying audio engineering at the time and thanks to a local mate we'd regularly hang out in the Hacienda, the Boardwalk and a few other places. My favourite was the Boardwalk, mostly down to it being cosy and Dave Haslam being a DJ there.
I lived right next to Cheetham Hill within smelling distance of Boddy's brewery. I'd regularly hear gunshot from the Hill.
I later moved down to the Quays right before it got rebuilt, and we'd regularly go to the PSV club at this time.
Great days even though it was obviously dodgy at times.
I was a long term Haç regular from 1987 onwards. it was the best place on earth til the gangs stepped in and completely ruined it. Major Tom (serious man) once told me that he had declined control of the door because they had to have a handgun behind the counter...
I've read about White Tony before but didn't realise he was related to Winnie Johnson. A lot of tragedy in that family.
Surprised you never knew he was related to Winnie Bennet if you’ve read about him. normally the first thing that gets mentioned
I feel so sorry for his mother she wanted to find were her son was buried before she died which I find so so I said she still never got to find out were her son was buried, 😥😉🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@leenettywilson528 Winnie wasn’t his mother
@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL Winnie wanted to find out where her son Keith was buried. That's what they're talking about
@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL she was mate honestly it's in that gangs of Manchester book also I have heard it in some other articles and once on the news , I admit I don't know for sure pal but even if he isn't it's still a sad story about Winnie🙏🙏🙏😉
After reading some of the comments, the vibe I'm getting is the Salford thugs fucked up a decent night for everyone.
@enquirer2.0 I have to say your work is really top notch. Very informative. Please keep it up. Of course, sometimes you have to cover some old ground as a lot of these events are notorious but don't let that stop you from revisiting those events. There's always more detail to be found and new perspectives to explore. It's strange how some of the top nightclubs sprung up in unexpected places. I'm a Burnley lad and we had Angels which was unbelievable for its time. They'd actually run buses from many of the top cities to Burnley, just to visit Angels. Tall Trees in Yarm was another strange one. A superclub in a village. Angels Burnley had the same issues as Hacienda. Once people realised the worth of running the door, who in turn ran the dealers, everyone wanted a piece.
Thank you mate
Angels was spot on. Couple of army mates live next to TURF, so once we’d come back from Northern Ireland, dropped the disco biscuits, quarters of whizz it was a fucking buzz😂😂😂😂😂😂
there were better clubs round uk, so much hype...it was moody, and going upstairs was a risk, who wants that on a pill
Yeah, it was soon ruined.
Eventually there probably was better and certainly safer clubs, but the Hac was doing it long before the others and paved the way
@@billypower9679 there were clubs doing same mate,was not just a manchester thing, with respect !
@@henryclarke5363 Same respect to you too, but it is well documented and my experience that the Hac was one of the first clubs to establish itself as a trendsetter and early adopter to the scene…it shaped the scene long before others popped up in liverpool, Leeds, Derby, Nottingham and Birmingham etc
@@billypower9679Yeah, Maximum Respect. 😂
Thanks for this post, much appreciated, is there more to this to come?
I have heard about the Noonan family from Manchester, Damion and Dessie Noonan, were very hard men by all accounts but, that Dominic Noonan was nothing but a nonce who lived off his brothers reputation, and if I’m totally honest I haven’t heard anything about the other brother.
@@Johnconno Derek?
Derek ?? silly man dom didn't hide behind his brothers and half the offences he got charged for was while he was in jail complete set up from the police
All nonces from Manchester Leeds and that ... Bosh@@chrisjackson9626
Theyre travellers. Not human.
@@freepadz6241they're dead and were country people/ gorgers. Not travellers. That's why their names all begin with D for Dublin.
I used to go there regularly in 1988/89. There was never really any atmosphere of violence there then, unlike some of the London clubs and warehouse parties that I used to go to around the same time.
Not sure what nights you went but definately was. You may have been to off your Barnet to notice 😂
@@enquirer2.0 🤣
You tell a class story man, love your channel keepit up dude
Thankyou mate
Another ace video.. love this channel
Thank u so much xx
Thankyou 🙏
Welcome back bro. Hope your feeling better 💪🫶
By 1992, the bouncers were dickheads on the Hac.
Said I wasn’t old enough to come in once, even though I was 22 and saw me most weeks. Made me travel 35 miles to get I.d. One night, then didn’t even look at it and just let me in.
One week they didn’t let my mate in because they didn’t like the colour of his t shirt. It was grey?
Great little documentary 👍
😂😂 A jungle night every month for the black gangs😂😂...
Umgawwa!!
Never tried it at the proper home of the Manchester scene .. Thunderdome Oldham rd . Miles Platting… run by Mancs for Mancs
The Hac was run by Mancs
proper mad gaff
Remember the Lantern, (aka the Amber Club), dodgy as fuck but loved it cos I’m Moston😉
Thunderdome was great. Mad but great.
There was so many good place's for a good night out in Manchester no trouble at all, the Hacienda was just a Cliché and a product of its own downfall.
The scene ruined it with the drug culture, because at this time Indie and Brit pop was massive so you were spoilt for choice on venues and people won't pay to be in a slaughter house. Manchester's night life is shit now taken over by the big boys and the over priced sports bars, the only saving grace are the Pubs that are still around the City Centre.
Little boys with toys. Gangsters wouldn’t last 10 minutes in the armed services!
Protecting the club dealers or protecting the poppy fields in Helmand. Either way they're just pawns in a game they barely understand.
@@robertlaw.profound mate
@@robertlaw. eh we didn’t protect the poppy fields neither did the taliban . Saudi and ISIS and helz kept them going .
Little boys with toys literally describes the army
@@seltonk5136 Army is harder than most civilian jobs, especially in the middle east hell holes
Hope you're well better Ben another belter keep it up. M8
Cheers mate
Brilliant as always
Thankyou mate
I was a regular visitor during these years and although it always had that moody scary edge to it I had no idea of all this that was going on behind the scenes. Thankfully was just a clueless teenager at the time
I remember the Noonans and their pals trying to take the door at CJs in Sheffield.
I was in there.
Walked in and these unknown guys in suits and some in dicky bows at a rave seemed well out of place,
Not gona say any local names but that night so much stuff kicked off.
One Manchester lad got plenty of shot in his leg in the toilet.
All the locals started going in via the fire exits.
The door was a lost cause.
They never came back .
CJs was probably the worst place to try and get a foothold into as everyone knew each other .
The owner Colin was well respected,nobody was taking that door then or no other time.
niche sheffield, all went bad
I was the one guy, Selton K
Mickey C soiled my trousers , did a deuce in mine
I used to be bouncer in Mothercare Glasgow even the weans were nuts😂
😂😂
Got up there one night from Devon to be turned away at the door. They didn't say why and we certainly weren't gonna start arguing with them. We probably looked like chumps to be fair. Gutted to this day.
Fkn l o n g drive, were you sorted thus to take the sting out the debarr, hopes....
@@suzyqualcast6269 Well sorted thanks, ended up at the Thunderdome, cracking night.
Never went to the hac. Was gonna go one night with me pals after a day festival in leeds....i was so mullered i fell over and broke my collar bone,spent the night pointlessy in leeds general getting it strapped. Got back to the flat and my mates turned up later saying the night was ruined by seeing a guy getting an eye gouged out in a corner of the club. Didnt sound great.....
Good vid mate, I lived through this I was only a young fella and didn't start doing the doors till end of the 90s. For some reason Dessi had a proper hardon for me and would single me out and always be grabbing me and messing with me, Damian used to tell me to try and stay away from him as he didn't like how he acted around me, he wasn't violent just a bit creepy not sexual either just non stop messing that would escalate if i got wound up. Massey and Damian were always sound blokes and would let us in hac and phoenix for free and looked after us when we were young uns.
Great Post mate
close shave for you lad 🤣🤣🤣🤣
phoenix great gaff, i knew the boss, good nights there
@@henryclarke5363 What was the name of the boss i knew him to chat with cant remember his name for the life of me. Was a hidden gem that place some amazing dJ's and nights.
Hi Ben being from dublin I'm not familiar with this story however it's a very interesting story well presented good stuff,hope ur keeping well pal best wishes regards Jay 👍
Cheers Jay hope Yr well pal
@@enquirer2.0 doing well ben cheers pal 👍
What is the name of that first rave song you played around 0:40 second mark…. So good. Great video too. Tough time to be a door man
Think it's ceephax acid crew
Thanks bro
I was 18 in 1982 and met them all ,did all the clubs and pubs in town throughout the 80s and 90s upto around 2010 .Was always best to stay in the background and just watch and listen and keep your mouth shut ,too old now at 60 though but i was there 👌
I watched it change in The HAC . From 1988-91 it was cool full of creatives Hairdressers , Students etc . After 91 the gangs moved in & with them the obvious violence . The cool people left but some went Flesh the gay night at The HAC instead.
such a shame ,such a great night out had to be ruined by money.
Shithole! Went once and found a Cartier watch down the toilet, so I did alright out of it.
I went to the Kennel Club once, got in a fight with the labradormen
😂😂
Me to ,got hammered by a boxer 😂
it was located in Barking 1992
Friday 10th May 1991, when the MEN oddly referred to us as '1000 VIP revellers' on the Saturday newspaper. It made the front page of the MEN (I'm in the picture), the public opening was on the 11th, the Saturday night. They had installed what the MEN called 'a metal detector door similar to MCR airport'. The place played a big part in our weekends. I remember the night with the helicopter, blood on the stairs from the mezzanine down to the dancefloor & the crowd having to leave through a police corridor.
I remember the night salford came and took over the scene in Blackburn. My pal broke his leg jumping from a second floor window. Thats when i first heard of Massey
Not long after, the police shut down the Blackburn scene. His involvement was the beginning of the end
@@TTBoy2 yeah and the quad suffered down to the manc mobs
@paulbarrett22 didn't know that, mate. Quad was one place I never went but wished I had
great raves in blackburn
Vinny clay turned up at monroes
Why would anyone want to queue for hours, to get into a club, just to be charged outrageous prices for a drink?
it was £2 a bottle of Sapporo Japanese quality beer and apart from a couple of months in 1990 the average queue time was max 20 mins for 3 years between 88-91 I went there almost every friday..sorry to inform u but your comment is just ill informed stupidness john..
@@steviewonders4913 , I disagree. Not stupidness, more ignorance. However, I’ve never queued to get into a pub.
@@johnnunn8688 top man John.. yep u aint stupid fella.. in fact your refreshingly smart
@@steviewonders4913 I need a ‘dripping with sarcasm’ emoji. 😂🤣
@@johnnunn8688 sarcasm aint my bag, i tend to actually have respect for a person who can see past the ' I have to win this mini battle of comments' and accept they dont impress anyone trying to double down and win war of words that was lost by them before it even began..honest.. btw sarcasm doesn't drip by its very nature the emoj would need to be dry if it dripped at you..i would have sent you a smirking emoji slippery in its gleeful disdain
The ONLY crew of proper Doormen old school style was based at the 21 Club opposite Piccadilly gardens..nobody ever messed with that team..around the corner standing around 5 ft 5 was Jimmy the legend so there was never any trouble and it was a massive club..i was improvising with a radio mike to House music and i danced my feet off!! It was a brilliant club classy and friendly..But it wasnt a drug den..The Hacienda was a bit off the beaten track, i really cant understand how Tony Wilson didnt have the Manchester door crew?? They were respected but fearsome and some ex army guys amongst them..ive seen Jimmy the legend chaise away like 6 threatening with guns a club on Oldham street..its a shame Hacienda was targeted by the local thugs..i guess the real hardmen just couldnt be bothered so the wanna be lot moved in..shame Hacienda was becomming a legend, Wilson wasnt a thug he was a music guy with Waterman..but thugs ruined it all..sad but Manchester now is on the up so hopefully the small time thugs will disapear and safe happy nights out will come around once more..im 71 so ive seen it all..
Would love to know more about that door firm what was Jimmy's second name?
You ever go to Applejacks?
respect
@@enquirer2.0saville...now then !!
@@enquirer2.0jimmy swords
I Iove Manc Peter Griffin at the start giving it big licks 😂
Brilliant content, 💯genuine af ..if you know 👊🏾
White Tony was the real deal very active for his short run that man had heart
This is a great video and very accurate, just word of advice people from Salford, pronounce it "SOUL-FORD" not "SALL (As in Sally) FORD"
Nice One Mate thanks
But none of them ended up with fat stacks and Cushiti life .
Most gangsters end up with nothing
They were all using the Michael Carroll investment model.
@@tog2842 🤣
Just sore bum holes
Essex boys went down a similar route.!! Gangbangers always end up in a bad way.
Some big things got completely wrong here. Tony Wilson was never the manager of either Joy Division or New Order. And New Order went to Ibiza to record Technique in 1988 not 1986. Which might sound pedantic but the whole point you make is the acid house influence and there was none of that in 1986 even in Ibiza
the hacienda was the best of clubs in the 80's. the pre-pill era. profits were made from entry take and the sale of alcohol. pills put a stop to that.
Pills are the future, unbashed. Sassafras is essential, sod the grabbing yanks.
Booze is the past, as Wigan Casino proved, just those few years before rave/Hac took off.
Only thing intimidating about him is the fact he would bum you 😅 dirty diddler.
What book was that an exert from, please?
Wasn't from a book it was written by me but I used multiple sources from articles with Tony Wilson the co founder, The book Gangs, archive News articles , spoke to several friends who used to deal in there from Stoke back in the day aswell
@@enquirer2.0 should do a book, it was captivating mate. Good job.
Damion Noonan was the peace keeper , but the gang's showed no respect
On another note, what is the music used in the background? Sounds a bit james bond esque.
Maybe thinking of moonraker i could be wrong but that melody is definitely from a James bond film
@jamesfaircloth5469 i found it!! John Barry, Space March (capsule in space) from You Only Live Twice.
There's quite a few remixes out there, not sure which one is used here. But Moonraker was a great shout.
@@anandmorris oh nice im glad you found it 👍
Whats that track at 7 minutes? Banger!
Technotrance Yarrr by D-Shake, It was played there a lot in early 1990s, classic track at the Hacienda that got the dance floor bouncing when the pupils were dilated ;-)
@@Martin-cc5xn try find it, I can't seem to.👍🏻
@@jiggamortice3870 th-cam.com/video/aYMrAny7cME/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xaT4ILwTAH3dWkxN
@@jiggamortice3870 th-cam.com/video/h2SMHNdEozg/w-d-xo.html was this the track you was after a real oldskool 1990 classic
I remember going to Glastonbury in that era, being teenagers we just turned up and climbed the fence as a lot did back then, but there were rumours there was a group of drug dealers from Manchester stopping people climbing the fence and charging them money "to help" them climb over, luckily we got over with no issue but we heard quite a few stories about people who got a bit roughed up by the drug dealers when getting in.
I have great memories of the Hacienda in the 90s what a great club that was,
You had to be an absolute mug to spend 30 quid on a pill back in the early 90s. Disco Biscuits were a tenner a pop, and they were the best gear back then.
Yeah that made me laugh too! Doves were a tenner at most.
@@gavinwock6133 I definitely remember doves starting out at about 25 quid. They did come down to much cheaper prices though as a few years passed by
Late 90s early 2k you'd get 10 for 10 and it'd cost me a couple of quid at Maxiems. There are a around a 5er now but depends on who you know.
@@gavinwock6133 10 doves for £60 in club..but you had to charge your mates a fuckin tennner ..you know the ones ! didnt want to have hassle of sortin it themselves but would have a right face on em..when u tell them'' he aint got speckled doves this week''. the monkeys pay 10 and me I double drop 4 free lol
Was mitsubishi where I lived lol
Trying to recall the names of all the clubs I visited around the north west back in the day. Feel free to chime in: Wigan Pier, Hacienda, Quadrant Park, Was it Bowlers in Manchester?, Back To Basics in Leeds maybe or was that the name of the night? There was one in Warrington I can't remember the name of but we'd go there regularly. I'm sure there was many more but I can't rememer the names. Some of the best times of my life in all honesty
Bowlers was a top night, massive crowds with a broad mix of people, and the only aggro I ever saw/encountered was from the security who seemed intent on fighting a hilariously losing battle with drugs that weren't theirs
Legends in Warrington
@@markkay2937 I think that was it mate yes. Wow, terrible memory
There was The World in Warrington and Mr Smith's.
why did massey have to stab that fella on a stag do from huddersfield after he got butted? did his arse flap and not fancy the straightner?
It's because he is an informer... That's the actions of a grass.
I was around on that night, i reckon it was because there was a docco being filmed and also Paul Ferris was down from Scotland and hanging with everyone and telling stories, and i honestly think Massey was trying to show he was as dangerous as Ferris, coke beer and story topping is what i think happened, was a bad affair all round and plenty of regrets after.
well you obviously know more about it than me so fair enough,never heard jibbed in that context in relation to stabbing but im from liverpool where its always meant to stop or quit something, anyway minor point....nice one
U got facts on that @@mrsoft7022
Exactly....
that was the reaction of an absolute 'shithouse', who knew he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag, so used a blade.
Hot was not the first night. Nude was already well established. Hot was a midweek night famous for having a swimming pool off to the side of the dancefloor.
Nude introduced Chicago house and took a while to go really take off - quality night.
Things escalated as the Acid House scene took off
spot on. I was a friday hac Nude regular from 86 onwards. Very sparse select crowd, enjoying the new Chicago house imports. Couldnt be doing with the jonny-cum-lately E-crowd who suddenly turned up by the 1000s around july'88. Started going less, up to around 91, when i was turned away from the queue for no reason, by some cnt bouncer. And then weeks later, i witnessed a knockout assault with a serious relentless headstomping, looking down on the dancefloor, from upstairs on the balcony. Never went again, except for that Pet Shop Boys/10th birthday bash.
@@deegee8645 It's easy to spot those that actually went by comments like this. It really was a sparse crowd. I could turn up at 12:30 and still just wander in compared to when the Smiley generation found it and they were queuing at 6pm.
A really cool crowd too, predominantly black and able to dance , just really cool music. Around '90 I'd thrown my hand in, too risky. By sight I knew a lot of the various gangs and it didn't make for a comfortable night, although strangely if I took a friend from out of town they didn't pick up on it. I had girlfriends from Cardiff and Glasgow at various times and they loved it.
Watching it go from a cool members club (right at the beginning) to such a moody gaff was hard.
@@simonparker7066 it kinda broke my heart that Pickering & Park sold their souls & went all smiley to court favour with the 'new' haciendistas :)
Tony Wilson, was way ahead of that time. 🇬🇧
Gangsters ruined there own drug industries. Now that was not good buisness move
This takes me back.
Good times.
if these gangsters are so tough then how come their streets are overrun now by foreign mobs while they cower in their little houses?
I live in liverpool now and seen albanians getting terrorised by the scousers on 2 occasions now haha. Take no crap the scousers lived all over the country they are the keenest when it comes to taking it to these foreigners
They're not sat in their houses mate. They're all dead 🤦♂️
You sound confused.
@@Maradonaldinho ...Or in certain European countries. Still.
@seaeagle758 because that was year's ago and the one's that are still alive are retired mate not hard to work out 🤣🤣🤣
Oh for the calmer, better speedy daze, of the by then a decade closed Casino.....
Nice little video. 👍
90% of us enjoying a night out never knew of the gang warfare around the rave/dance scene
Last time I was this fast the missus complained
😂😂
Yeah she told me, 😂😂😂😎
Lol brilliant 🙏🙏😉
That same mob beat up all the touts outside the free trade hall happy mondays gig all had walkie talkies I thought police until they started kicking shit out the touts 😂
Was there alot of black tonys to why he was called white tony 🤔 i wounder
He was from Cheetham Hill, i’m pretty sure every other guy was black & called Tony…
@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL ahaha of course yes I get ya
@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUALhe was from fallowfield
He was a white man in a black gang
Cheetham hill is where he was from
i was there from 87 - 91, then it got too shady
finally a proper comment
Ormskirk back in the 80’s was the place to be!
Wasn't top guard , Tony tuckers firm ?
No
Tucker had 22 doorman wasn't a big fish
And a shit haircut @@hod2116
No. I believe the owners were mentioned in Operation Tiberius.
@@TommyTimebomb100 yes, I didn't want to mention names. 😅
Anyone know the tune at the start of the video 25 seconds in?
Ceephax Acid Crew ( Capsule in space) Bonus Slam............ samples James Bond
They didn't make thousands they made millions over the years in that club
@@waynelockett1149 if only 🤣
@@Down-x4u do you know them because I do
@@Down-x4u then you know I'm right then
@@waynelockett1149 no
@@Down-x4u then you don't know them as well as u do and didn't go on the holidays I did iv seen then spend money like its goin out of fashion
Massey gone and phoned the Police as he was taking his final breaths... Long live the Iceman 🧊
Guy was a bellend
My mum loved the hacienda she told me so many stories good ones
I remember these times, it proper ruined the Madchester vibe, it was scary 💔 I'm a Manc, I Love the place but I raved elsewhere around the late 90s, it was wild west tackle with door war's wrecking the night blood and anger took business away and places closed
The Hac was a good night but the quad smashed it out of the water
Best club ever
I went to the Hacienda one night in 92. Had a great night, ended up in an after hours drinking place. Got warned by my Manc mate to keep quiet as the place was full of local gangsters who'd hate my Southern accent.
A great nite often includes being scared to be heard speaking because of fear of violence.
North South divide stuff is such rubbish
@@joeankard not amongst the ignorant/angry/frustrated/really thick.
@@joedent3323 Hmmm well that covers most of the population then. North, South, East & West. One born every minute 😁
@@joeankard very true mate. I feel like that creepy little brat in that film, where he lets-on... "I See Thick People".
I am cast adrift in a sea of eedjits.
Remeber that documentary about the noonan brother and some kids were shouting shit at him , did they get served for that? . Because they are a crime family
Wasent one of them sent away in kiddy fiddle charges
Mind your own business pls
😂@@seltonk5136
Very good, thankyou.
I went to the reopening night and don't remember any of that happening on that night but maybe I was just enjoying myself to much
Picture at 6:10 Nathan McGough next to Tony Wilson. Nathan was Happy Mondays manager through the Bummed, Madchester and Thrills PIll eras - top lad Nathan
TThere should of been a standard rule that anybody in or watching the club had to take an E on entry,,macho shit fixed,,,everybody loved up, sorted happy punters, happy money spent everybodys happy😂
That's how it began before the bad guys with a greed noted the dEmand .
never gonna run local lads out 300 miles from home .......not in a city
Especially Mcr
@Numanoid84 Aye I’ll have that all day. I’m not a manc or Salford but I know who I’d rather have on my side
@Numanoid84 I'm from Blackburn l remember when Massey and a few lads came to Blackburn in 89' I think... they just put the frighteners on and took over from the Smith's (not morrisey 😊) who had the raves going and the Sett End. A pal of mine broke his leg jumping out of a window to get away... that was my first introduction to them lads they were a formidable outfit and they had the numbers as well.
@Numanoid84 I kind of met Doyle a couple of years later he turned up in a lambo or something to collect a few quid. The lad who he was collecting off was definitely no Joey and Doyle wasn't happy about something or other, anyway I was sat on a wall watching as Doyle gave him a bit of a telling off 😂.
Blackburns a rough town but there are levels
I met one punch Doyle in Manchester car park recently he’s a proper sound guy
White Tony....going back in time lad.
Used to travel down from Blackburn for friday nude night from jan 89 to about june 89 went kitchen a couple of times also blackburn had its corner of the hac...