OUR BOYS ARE FIGHTING | COLLEGE VOLLEYBALL PLAYER REACTS TO SEASON 2 EPISODE 5

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  • @maybeasofa
    @maybeasofa 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +121

    You aren’t about that life and that’s why Saeko hasn’t called you up yet 😂

    • @benlincoln7358
      @benlincoln7358 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      😂😂😂 she said “step on you?!…nahhh I’m good, I’m gonna get drinks w the coaches. Bye nerd”

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

      literally crying and throwing up

  • @NeutronFTW
    @NeutronFTW 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +153

    You have to remember how fast this super quick is. Ukai doesn’t believe Hinata had his eyes open because it would be almost impossible to do so. That’s why Kageyama says “his will isn’t needed” because Hinata just jumps and hits the ball without thinking once he’s in the air. Another thing is that Ukai, Kageyama, and Suga are all setters, so they don’t fully understand what Hinata means

    • @ClusterDSA
      @ClusterDSA 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      This, also they don't want to have him practice it during practice matches for the reason that you see just before their fight. He's going to miss them all for a long time if he can ever get to where he can hit them. He needs to practice that between games until it at least somewhat works before they just throw it into even a practice match. Their point is that the quick is there and gone so fast the only reason it can be hit at all is because it's perfectly timed. There isn't enough time for Hinata to see the block and then sync to the ball and hit it. The show does a lot of time extensions so we can get characters thoughts or we can get reminded of scenes so it can be easy to misjudge how fast the ball is there and gone.

  • @amyjohnson3776
    @amyjohnson3776 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +147

    It is interesting because the 3 people that Hinata talks to about wanting to change the quick attack are all setters. I think that that adds to the reason none of them can understand him when he says how clearly he can see everything in that split second. Maybe if Tanaka or Asahi were there as well they might have been able to explain better. It is my understanding that what Hinata sees isn't the norm for most players. We have the advantage of seeing things from his POV a lot in the show and we see how things tend to slow down and open up in his vision. As the conversation grows none of them can understand that Hinata isn't just talking in general but that he really can see that clearly in that split second.
    It is so heartbreaking when HInata is sad that he feels like he lost his partner, and I think a lot of that stems from the fact that he can't act as an equal with Kags. What he felt was a partnership he now feels like he is Kags' tool.
    Can't wait for the next one!!

    • @tubbylita
      @tubbylita 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      I agree. I think I remember Sarah Pavan mention that it's quite rare for someone even at the highest level, to see clearly beyond the block, like on the other side of the court. (I don't really play volleyball so I don't know if that's accurate 😅😅😅). I thought maybe that's why Coach Ukai was having a hard time believing Hinata when he said he can see clearly on the other side of the court, and he can even see Oikawa's eyes while doing the quick attack. He has a problem believing it because he has not experienced it. It's only in retrospect that he considered what Hinata was saying.
      Yes!!! It's heartbreaking when Hinata talked to Yachi about Kageyama. He made a lot of friends, but only Kageyama felt like his partner. He's the only one who understood him. Hinata being benched is also sad for me 😢💔. He continued to cheer on the sidelines even though he's hurt and disappointed. It's a testament of how much of a good boy Hinata is.

    • @Persewna4
      @Persewna4 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Yeah, about Hinata feeling like Kageyama's tool (and Kageyama saying "your will is not needed" certainly reinforces that), makes me think of the different imagery that others have used to describe the duo. I think Coach Nekomata is the one who described them as an oni (Kageyama) with his club (Hinata), but Hinata doesn't want to be the club, easily discarded if the oni finds a better one, but an oni in his own right, a monster in the air who can fight on his own, but fights at his best with Kageyama at his back.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      I’ve just had a couple people mention they are all setters and it completely slipped my mind! That makes a lot of sense for how they are perceiving the situation

    • @nicolasrojas7988
      @nicolasrojas7988 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Just to add a little thing, dont forget hinata is a very short player. When he jumps and get up there, he jumps a lot more than the average tall volleyball player, so he objectively has more fly time, so it is posible for him to see a little more. In the same way, it makes sense that tall players without that much jumping power cannot relate to it D:

  • @alisonmiller4636
    @alisonmiller4636 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    I always feel for Yachi. She is in the middle and is still a shy girl who is not used to how boys can fight and still be friends.

    • @xanvasanx
      @xanvasanx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      It always caught my attention how we guys can fight between friends (even more than once), but if girls ever do they hold that grudge for who knows how long haha

    • @jinxd8936
      @jinxd8936 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@xanvasanx for besties/really close friends, we will still be friends BUT if its just normal friends and we decided we had enough means we had enough. personally and usually in my circle, we just let things go. Like she may be an awful person but shes a good friend or she has a monthly annoying schedule so we forgive and just understands.
      Hence when u see girls not being friends anymore its not because of that one fight that explodes, its also other times they silently/not silently forgive each other😅

    • @xanvasanx
      @xanvasanx 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jinxd8936 exactly my point, where does all that grudge come from? Why are there other times when you didn't forgive one another? If you're going to help in touch why remember all that and hold on to it?

    • @vallie764
      @vallie764 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xanvasanxguys let their friends disrespect them constantly and are told they're not allowed to feel any way about it because it's “boys being boys” so the only way they can move forward is to forget and force themselves to move forward. Women are allowed to feel more in society so when we feel disrespected we tend to hold onto that feeling, maybe moving forward if we really like that person but never forgetting that hurt

    • @jinxd8936
      @jinxd8936 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xanvasanx those times are when they are forgiven even though they don’t apologise but if it happens too many times and the girl neither apologise or reflect on herself then its a goodbye.
      As a good person you would have a conscience that goes ‘shit I fukup’. Even tho you have too big of an ego to apologise, you make sure you don’t do it again. If you keep on doing the same mistake, and you cant even read the room then you are out.
      For example, theres this girl that keeps on bringing her boyf everywhere and her friends just end up leaving them alone and never ask her to hang out anymore. Then they broke up, so her friends pick her up again but when she got a bf again, she starts acting up again. So what do we do? We kick her out.

  • @biyyufaiz
    @biyyufaiz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    If you miss it, coach ukai was a setter, so he still has a setter "mindset" and setter "PoV" even when he's coaching now

  • @samar2621
    @samar2621 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    "this is what she was doing instead of texting me back" I DIED I ALMOST CHOKED ON MY CEREAL

    • @user-ub8sz2rd2c
      @user-ub8sz2rd2c 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      (´・ω・`)つ🥛

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      My achy breaky heart

  • @Denf0
    @Denf0 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    The worst & most uncomfortable part about this conflict is that everyone is correct, to an extent. It's true that Hinata sorely needs to improve his serve/receive/block and doing so would certainly make him a better overall player & asset to the team, but it's equally true that the majority of his /potential/ lies in his attacks. As others have said, all the people opposing Hinata's request are or were setters so there's an added layer of them not being on the same base level as far as how they're approaching the issue. I think the reason Daichi doesn't want anyone else participating is because they aren't the ones who will be directly involved in its resolution, it's purely a Kageyama/Hinata issue how they develop the best offense that will work for their dynamic. It's really stressful, especially considering that these kids are also still just growing as people and trying to figure themselves out in addition to how they're going to evolve their game. Really good stuff coming in the next episodes, this is a killer season for character development

  • @BachiraMeguruZ
    @BachiraMeguruZ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    16:05 What Kageyama also means is that the quick is kinda on the setter to use well. That's why he blames himself for that last point, and Hinata hates it because if he was better, he could actually be able to go around/tool the block and not just blindly hit the ball.
    Like what you've been saying throughout the whole series, they don't use the quick very well, they just kinda "spam" it just because.
    So Kageyama is acknowledging that he as a setter needs to improve at using the quick.
    Also since they don't have a lot of time before the tournament, it's understandable that Kageyama just wants to focus on Hinata to be more solid overall and himself to think better on how to use the quick.

    • @herrrorschach590
      @herrrorschach590 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      also, that Kageyama speech reveals that the freak quick is still incomplete 'cause missing of the last part: the will of the spiker. But as you said, he wants Hinata to become more reliable in what he can do, instead of trying new things

  • @ShiroKage009
    @ShiroKage009 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    An Olympic player commented on seeing the block and she said that basically the spikers see the body and not the arms. Where this goes is somewhere else. Remember that Hinata was doing the quick jumping with his eyes closed. His will was completely eliminated from the attack, and the coach and Suga basically wanted him to work on something else other than making this attack something he can hit at will.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That is a great way to explain it!

  • @elijahagapito6284
    @elijahagapito6284 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    LOL Narita catching strays for absolutely no reason lmao

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah my bad G

  • @mcbob10
    @mcbob10 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    justice for my boy narita! no benchwarmer is as steady and reliable

  • @gem2551
    @gem2551 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Kageyama and Hinata's bond is all about how only them both can handle the other.
    Hinata is a burning sun. He wants to reach the top. He is greedy, imposing, exhausting. It takes some form of both selflessness and selfishness to demand every ounce of someone, to pry into their vulnerabilities, crash into their walls when they're trying to hide their weakness; just to make them stronger. It is meant to be ugly, uncomfortable, but that is practice, it is how you get better, and that superposition is their own unique form of bond.
    They are both in a way greedy to unlock the most potential as possible from one another, and it does not mean they will coincide always in how to do so, or that it will be good for the team. Kageyama hates to think his tosses aren't good enough for Hinata, Hinata hates feeling that he's not worthy enough for his tosses. To see your undesirable traits bared out in the open, but then someone comes over and instead of letting you hate them, they make you see them as a step to improve.
    They need eachother's greed to fly.
    To compete one another at the highest level.
    Both as rivals and partners.
    That is why Hinata's speech to Yachi is so important as it defines their relationship perfectly in a painful way. They are more than friends, they have become partners. It's the first time they have a partner that shares that same greed, and can actually grasp the other's full abilities like it is their missing half. They saw each other's weaknesses and it was bad, but going through that and playing together, they both finally felt seen, and understood.
    It's why it hurts so much this time that they couldn't get their motives through to the other. How they are both right in the same way they are both wrong. And they both needed to go through that.
    This is just a new step they must take to find the answer, and how the outcome of their clashing, as always, will only propel them even higher.

    • @srishtishivakumar
      @srishtishivakumar 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This made me shed a tear 🥲 beautifully put

    • @roroellies8188
      @roroellies8188 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Very well said!! Thank you so much, I love your comment. And this is how we know when someone has finished the manga as well and understand Kagehina's rivalry and partnership. Kudos!

    • @gem2551
      @gem2551 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thank you both! I just love KageHina so much I could talk about them for hours skhdjdk 💙🧡🙏🏻

    • @Rhodair
      @Rhodair 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      masterfully stated and fully agree

  • @Aisha-fd1oq
    @Aisha-fd1oq 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I think we're also seeing some of the consequences of Ukai's inexperience in this episode. He's so great generally that it's easy to forget that he only started coaching a few months ago, at most. Which makes it easier to understand why he doesn't immediately *get* what Nekomata gets about how the team needs to evolve (I'd imagine the pressure of being the least experienced coach at a training camp with teams of this caliber is a pretty big factor as well!), and why he is a bit dismissive of Hinata in handling that situation. I do like that by the end of the episode he's already got around to questioning those assumptions; he's willing to accept he might be wrong.
    This episode makes my heart hurt, even as I know they'll get past this fight. I'm very much with Yachi; I hate seeing those two hurting each other, and Hinata saying he thought in Kageyama he'd found a partner makes me feel a lot of things.

  • @CandyFariy
    @CandyFariy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    What I think it happening is that they (Kageyama, Suga and Coach Ukai) don't know HOW to help Hinata in this situation, because they don't really understand what he wants, they don't understand what "new" thing he wants. There's two things going on here, the setters don't know how or what to do to help Hinata, and that Hinata does not know how to articulate WHAT he wants. One thing that people forget about Hinata is that, he literally does not know ANYTHING about volleyball expect for the basic rules of "team allowed to touch ball three times, and make ball hit ground on other side." He didn't even know what a Libero was until he met Nishinoya. Boy had no interest in volleyball until he saw the Little Giant on tv, which made him go from 0 to 100 into practicing it, but as you can see Hinata is not that great when it comes to studying. All Hinata knows what to do right now is ask for a "toss." Which Kageyama and Suga can definitely do, but Hinata doesn't know how to articulate the kinds of tosses he wants for example, Asahi asking Kageyama sets that are higher or closer to the net earlier in the series. He's never played/worked with a proper setter before, the setter he had in middle school for his brief time in his middle school tournament was his friend from basketball, so he doesn't know how to ask for specific tosses. Just a "toss." So when Hinata says he wants to be a better, everyone is confused because "how do you improve a quick that freaky, when it's already so hard to do?" They can't see outside of giving Hinata quick balls, because Hinata hasn't ever asked for tosses that aren't quick cause he doesn't know how to. Remember when Tsukishima asked Kageyama for sets that are more free and not to be set in specific ways that forces him to spike the ball in the certain way Kageyama wants earlier in the series? Kageyama was more than willing to give Tsukishima those set. It's kinda like that, expect this time, Hinata doesn't know how to articulate that he wants something similar, so there's all this confusion going around because of it.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ahh okay that makes more sense thank you!

  • @TheKlytsianWay
    @TheKlytsianWay 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I always felt that Ukai not understanding Hinata's point of view came from the fact that Hinata is known for his quicks. He jumps and hits almost immediatelly. How in hell would he be able to get all those informations about other players in this split second before hitting ? It really shows how Ukai is not used to be the one fighting in the air, like Hinata, Tanaka and Asahi. He doesn't know what this "slow motion" is all about

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hmm yes this makes total sense!

  • @hmnuladno
    @hmnuladno 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    In short, I believe everyone thinks that now is not the time to try something new.
    A more detailed answer is:
    the team want to spend about a few months (I think) to polish what they already know how to do and perform at the tournament in their best form. sometimes you lose not because you have the wrong technique, but simply because of a combination of circumstances, because of not knowing your opponent, unluck. perhaps this time, simply by increasing the effectiveness of their usual attacks, Karasuno will be able to outplay their rivals. And don't forget, many third-year students may leave their volleyball teams (rival to karasuno), but karasuno will have their fully working team.
    Hinata, on the other hand, wants to give up regular training and learn how to do something completely new, as if he suddenly decided to kick ball with his left foot instead of hitting it with his right hand (because know he doesn't even really know what he wants to do at all, just trying some unusual for him stuff, that only Hinata for now assumes may or may not be start for his growth). Yes, he can learn this, it can be useful, but obviously figuring out how everything works will take a lot of his time, which can be spent on an already working attack, will not ensure a one hundred percent victory and probably will not be worked out properly by the beginning of the tournament. And this is the best case scenario, where it will bring any result at all and will not turn out to be just a huge waste of precious time.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is a good way to put it! I appreciate you breaking it down for me

  • @tubbylita
    @tubbylita 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Hello to baby Bokuto who's watching the show with us!! ♥️😍🥰
    I agree with Lachey that Kageyama is thinking more of the team while Hinata more of himself. It's not that Kageyama doesn't believe Hinata or doesn't want him to improve, but it's just more on they don't have enough time make changes to the quick attack or at least make enough changes for it to be useful. He'd rather Hinata focus on improving his receives and serves rather than waste time trying a new quick (that may or may not work) since the Spring Tournament is about to start. I think someone mentioned before that an attack that only works half the time is a useless attack. (Specially in actual match since you don't know if it will work when you need it.)
    However, Kageyama forgot that Hinata actually learns faster when he's motivated than when he's forced, just like how he usually gets single digit scores on regular exam but got really high scores when playing volleyball is on the line. Right now, Hinata's is set on improving the quick. Telling him to work on his serving and receiving would demotivate him. He'll have an easier time mastering a new quick than serve/receive since that's where his mind is.
    I agree that Hinata should get to decide what he wants to work on. The problem is Kageyama also gets to decide what he wants to work on. And Hinata needs Kageyama to be on the same page as him to work on what he wants.
    Also, I can't wait to see Coach Ukai's annoying relative, lol! (Lachey, any guesses? Lol).
    If Lachey would watch his reaction videos after finishing Haikyuu, he'll see how many of his side comments actually happen in the future, lol! He's spewing spoilers and he doesn't know it! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @benlincoln7358
      @benlincoln7358 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I hope he does watch them back at the end. I’ve started watching his AoT reacts too and his intuition is impressive

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Baby bokuto having the time of his life hahah, and thank you for breaking that down for me! I really appreciate it and that makes it so much better to frame in my mind

  • @earlyoyster2793
    @earlyoyster2793 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I just love how Haikyuu handles emotions. As a girl, I specially feel for Yachi in this episode. She’s seen Kageyama and Hinata friendship and it’s really sad seeing all this.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah that part broke me a bit

  • @erict1628
    @erict1628 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    21:58 Even though Hinata says that he wants to be strong enough to compete by himself, he's doing so to help the team. As it's been shown repeatedly, as soon as Hinata gets blocked doing his freak quick (Date Tech, then Seijoh, and now Nekoma), he not only becomes useless as a spiker, but as a decoy as well. If he isn't a threat as a hitter, then he won't be effective as a decoy. So he needs to develop a new weapon to make his quick freak effective again.

  • @somefatguy616
    @somefatguy616 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The writing here is so good because the frustration your feeling about why they won't try it is the same frustration the team is feeling about changing or evolving.
    These next training episodes and these are the best character development for the show (except maybe season 3 for a certain someone but no spoilers).

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes I completely understand everyone’s point of view, so it’s just heartbreaking to see it escalate so mych

  • @tadanobukatsu99
    @tadanobukatsu99 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    kageyama, suga, and coach ukai are all setters anyway, they don't fully understand what hinata, the spiker meant. 15:21
    can't blame them fully though, and coach ukai is still a newbie in coaching. a lot of things need to be learnt, for coach too.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes you are very correct, those are some great points

  • @Catwenee
    @Catwenee 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    This is probably the hardest episode of the whole series for me. Even harder than their loss to Seijoh. Thank got it was only one episode :S

    • @theonemweh
      @theonemweh 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nah, the tsukishima backstory is harder fr

  • @samsonmacri941
    @samsonmacri941 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    16:00 something to note is that the 3 people saying that to Hinata are all setters, Kageyama and Suga obviously, but it's been stated that Coach Ukai Played Setter too, so they struggle to see it from Hinata's perspective do to a bit of a bias.

  • @FuFightersStudio
    @FuFightersStudio 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    What Kageyama means with the "Your will" is that Hinata's decisionmaking is not required at all, he jumps in open spot and either the ball comes or it doesnt but since he just swats it, either way, it doesnt matter what he is thinking or wants to do.
    I think the coach doesnt get that Hinata in fact can SEE that, since the moment is so hectic and short there should be no way he can pick that up unless he has absolutely insane talent, which is unlikely - especially since his eyes were *supposed* to be closed at the time. (He spells it out later but maybe this still makes some extra context to that)
    Basically nobody is denying that it was stopped but they are all thinking that what needs work on that quick is just Kageyama's decision making and giving him other options to use - which I would say is a fair assessment. It sort of goes back to the last episode and the question of "Do you want stable growth, or are you ready to shake the whole thing while going for one hundred or zero?". While I think Hinata has a huge point and it would be incredibly unfair to him as a person to deny his opportunity to polish his special ability, he has massive holes in his game that could be worked on instead to make him a more rounded player. - Well you figured it out a bit later but maybe some bits of this provide further clarity.
    Despite agreeing with Hinata's point, personally I think the sub was the right call. Hinata's head is clearly out of the game and he already could have caused injury to either himself or Asahi a moment ago - its absolutely the right call to not risk something actually happening, letting him work it through and generally talking it out in a less hectic situation. Dont think of it as a punishment, think of it as a precaution.
    Honestly this is one of my favourite episodes in the anime if we dont count hype match moments - a lot of the personality comes through and the nuance of what everyone is feeling and working through their issues. I cant wait for all the cool things that are coming!

  • @maikcampbell
    @maikcampbell 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Basically the team doesn’t want to invest in Hinata’s development (fundamentals or specialization) right now because they think it’s “safer” being this close to nationals. This is definitely a big part of Hinata’s journey as a shorter athlete that is basically self taught. People see his optimism and energy and drive as coming from a place of naïveté , which is partly true but they also ignore his real drive as a competitor. And boy Hinata IS a competitor.

    • @ClusterDSA
      @ClusterDSA 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      This is maybe worded poorly. They DO want to invest in Hinata's development; but the coach, Kageyama, and Suga want him to work on fundamentals instead of specialization. The disagreement isn't over weather Hinata should be worked on and improved, but what he should work on and improve in the limited time they have.

    • @maikcampbell
      @maikcampbell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ClusterDSA the only thing I worded poorly was not including “right now”. As in they are choosing to ignore his fundamentals and his ability to specialize right now in this moment in time. They generally mention improving other attacks not fundamentals here, for a reason. They are okay with learning other attacks that aren’t risky to the team (as we will see) , but those aren’t fundamentals either they are also new. The only difference is they help the team more. So again, it’s the team choosing to focus on team play more rather than Hinata’s development either fundamentally or specialization.
      The fact of the matter is that the team wants to win and go to nationals, and that’s the only reason Hinata is even on the court. If they cared about his development as an athlete he would be focusing primarily on fundamentals and not playing at all.
      (Don’t read spoilers Lachhy stop reading here)
      It wouldnt have taken multiple season for Hinata to develop a basic love of non spiking related skills or positioning if the team had worked on strictly his fundamentals sooner. Thats what I mean. I’m not villainizing them, everyone made logical decisions for competing as a team between seasons 1-3. I’m just highlighting that Hinata distinctly wants to be more than just a member of the team he wants to be a competitive athlete.

    • @ClusterDSA
      @ClusterDSA 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@maikcampbell I see, then I simply disagree with you.
      What the coach, Suga, and Kageyama tell him he should work on are his other attacks which are just normal spikes, his blocking, and his serves. All 3 of those things are fundamentals. There are more fundamentals that exist but those things are still in fact fundamentals. I had a link to a website listing the 6 fundamentals of volleyball (serving, passing, setting, spiking, blocking, and digging) but it kept deleting the comment so you can just google it if you want to see it. So the stated goal for him in this episode is in fact to work on his fundamentals. So to say they don't want to work on his fundamentals at this time is simply incorrect.
      Spoiler from the next bit of the season beyond this point so stop now!
      Looking forward to what actually happened what he ended up working on was...his fundamentals! Grampa Ukai didn't have him work with Kageyama on the new version of the quick directly. He had him practice syncing with the ball in general from anyone. Working on his fundamental timing and ball control. His fundamental spiking. And in Hinatas free practice he worked on, well, a bit of everything with Tsuki, Kuroo, Lev, Bokuto, and Akaashi. Again, fundamentals.
      So both the stated goals of the training camp from this episode as well as what actually ended up happening was that Hinata worked on his fundamentals.

    • @maikcampbell
      @maikcampbell 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ClusterDSA spoiler Lacchyyy
      the “other attacks” aren’t specifically referring the fundamentals. They are at a volleyball training camp, it is implicit that they are going to do block training, receive training, serve training etc. IMPLICIT meaning it doesn’t need to be said everyone is going to do some modicum of basic training…hence the drills.
      The “other attacks” they are referring to here (in this specific scene and discussion) are new methods to make the team stronger, i.e different tactics from these other schools. Thats the whole point of the evolution symbology and the crows being omnivores symbology. The deal is the team wants to learn and consume new attacks that they think will be successful gambits and not a waste of time before nationals i.e things like the synchro attacks or two setter on the field.
      Hinata trying to learn how to do the freak quick with his eyes open heavily disrupts team progress and balance because it takes up all the oxygen for at least two of there most valuable players to learn how to do. That is the contention here. Of course no one has a problem with Hinata learning receives, blocking, or Mid air battling (like we see later), because they don’t DISRUPT the team. His evolution in this context IS a selfish request because it risks sacrificing the team if they don’t accommodate. So to be clear, no one has a problem with him learning fundamentals that was never the argument. My point is that they don’t care what he does as long as it doesn’t disrupt the team, meaning they are all telling him to choose the team over himself. The argument here was shutting down his interest in something that will only benefit him as a competitor. No one has a problem with him learning synchros, learning mid air combat, learning tactics, learning fundamentals. They only had a problem with him asserting his will as a competitor and trying to communicate that he would rather take the riskiest investment (eyes open freak quirk) at this moment. THAT is the contention here. Again like I said THEY don’t immediately care about his fundamentals or ability to specialize because they are prioritizing team play, otherwise they would have worked with him sooner BEFORE seeking external help from Ukai and Oikawa. Case in point Ukai is the first in this season that sets him aside to focus on fundamentals here but SPECIFICALLY in support of accelerating his goal of doing mid air combat and the freak quirk eyes open (why not the coach or Kageyama or Suga right away). The team didn’t even initially try to mesh with Hinata. Thats all the proof needed.

    • @ClusterDSA
      @ClusterDSA 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maikcampbell I see, that's a fair point. You're saying the team isn't specifically working on him, just allowing him to improve in general by letting him continue to play in the practice matches while they add, well mainly the coordinated plays and the 2 setter formation. The rest was just players adding individual skillsets. Yeah I think you are correct.

  • @ParadisePoint09
    @ParadisePoint09 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Everyone always forgets about the other 2nd years 🥲 There's 5 total. Narita is a second year, just like Noya and Tanaka. Kinoshita is the another one and Ennoshita, who you'll get to learn more about soon.

  • @laiofurious6433
    @laiofurious6433 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Oh man, this came early!! This arc will have a lot of moments that will challenge our boys, at the end of this expedition, Karasuno will surely not be the same team... man I just can't wait, even if is a practice and training arc, is by far one of my favorite in the story.
    I think this is important to take something in consideration about what happened with Hinata and his conversation with... Kageyama, Sugawara and Ukai... the three of them are setters. I don't really know how to put it in words without saying things beforehand because of course I know exactly what is happening here, but, basically, the three of them think that the Freak Quick is literally just brute force paired with Kageyama's perfect set, and Hinata is NOT skilled enough to use his will in a set that takes literally a 1/10 of a second in the air (as the ball automatically reaches Hinata's hand exactly at the hit point).

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The fact that they are setters is a such a good point! I didn’t even think of that

  • @kasey2894
    @kasey2894 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    the way youre tending to baby bokuto and watching the episode with him LOL i love it
    this arc is incredible i never get tired of watching it over and over even though its not even a tournament arc

  • @michaelmireles3119
    @michaelmireles3119 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This is a great arc. Sometimes you gotta get uncomfortable to get better. As for your snake joke...save that for another ova.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AMEN! I couldn't agree more!

  • @lemonsgalore93
    @lemonsgalore93 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Japanese word they translated to 'partner' is the word 'Ai-bou'. And this word has a very specific meaning. You can have many friends, even multiple spouses but only 1 Ai-bou. It's almost like life-partner/soul-mate.
    That's why Yachi teared up when Hinata called Kageyama his Aibou. She understood that Hinata truly viewed him and Kageyama like 2 sides of the same coin, like you said, pretty much brothers.

  • @TaniaKapa
    @TaniaKapa 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    the next couple of eps will be really really interesting to watch...for you AND for us!i can't wait!

  • @maybeasofa
    @maybeasofa 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Wooo! Haikyuu day! 🥳
    I love how you talk to the mini Bokuto in your shirt 😂

  • @ilay_ux
    @ilay_ux 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    19:12 speaks volumes about how masterful the direction is! nothing special's going on yet you can feel that something is off. there's no humorous scenes, no jokes, seemingly nothing to talk about, even though there actually is... it's just not being openly discussed. so you wait for that moment.. and boy does it deliver.
    like coach Nekomata said in ep 4, "stability to achieve more power, or evolution?" this episodes executes those themes so well.
    one of my favorite along with Yachi's episode this season!

  • @roroellies8188
    @roroellies8188 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    One of the most pivotal moment in HQ. Changes are, sometimes, very uncomfortable. This changes in their quick attacks and also the meaning of their partnership. Hinata wanted to evolve quickly and taking a high risk versus Kageyama who prefer stability and control, and concern that such a change will affect badly esp so close to the next tournament. High risk=high return. But the high risk can also destroy the whole thing if we are not careful. Here, Ukai's lack of experience, a newbie coach, is glaringly obvious. A fresh point of views are needed here and we'll see them in the next eps.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hmmm yes very true, that’s a great way to break it down!

  • @mence5992
    @mence5992 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Watched haikyuu countless times, im still agreeing with kageyama. One month to prepare for the tournament, there is no logic supporting training for a Quick that at the moment Hinata can't even come close to touch.

  • @tonders
    @tonders 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have really solid emotional IQ, btw. The fact that you were anxious bc you knew something was off (not knowing what was about to happen) impressed me. It's part of what I've enjoyed watching with you all this time. :)

  • @supergalaxypaper
    @supergalaxypaper 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    8:42 how did you know??? I drank water right after this lol

  • @ManonLcz
    @ManonLcz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This episode always tugs at my heartstring to see them fight like this is hard but they both are so passionate it was bound to happen 😢

  • @johnnysoccer1983
    @johnnysoccer1983 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It starts to get REALLY good after this episode. Can't wait for the reactions.

  • @thelegacy_music
    @thelegacy_music 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    they weren't saying that the quick was fine as is. they were just saying that Shoyo moving on pure instinct through the motion of spiking is the most effective because it's so quick. so any deviation of him taking an extra split second to think or try and look where he's gonna spike causes it to be less effective, BECAUSE he don't have the other volleyball skill. his only strength at this point is his speed, jumping, and blind faith that the ball will be there when he swings his arm. Almost like an extension of Kageyama. Ukai couldn't understand because Shoyo's been closing his eyes when he swings everytime.

  • @clementinekitten8305
    @clementinekitten8305 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    you know, i thought that scene where ukai subs out hinata was kind of weird too, so here's what ukai says in the manga, because i think it's a) easier to understand and b) makes more sense in the context:
    "the freak quick you and kageyama have is impressive enough. but if it's like you say and you think there's some way to improve it, i think i'd like to see that. not that i have any clue how to make that happen. but i can guess you'll probably have to kill that "he'll [kageyama] let me hit it" feeling you've built up first. so no more game for you today."
    this is such a fantastic conflict for hinata and kageyama because neither of them are really in the wrong; you can see why both of them think what they do. hinata isn't at fault for wanting to improve and be able to stand on his own as a competent player. he's someone who started from the bottom and isn't quite yet on the top, who fought tooth and nail to even get on the court and be taken seriously. he hates being treated as the (less talented) half of a set -- everyone around him recognizes the freak quick working as a product of kageyama's insane technical skills. he's shown as someone who constantly wants to improve. on the other hand, kageyama is absolutely correct in saying that hinata has all sorts of other skills he can develop in order to improve, and he, of all people, would obviously be really afraid of upsetting the team dynamic and damaging the morale (because of his middle school trauma). and even though he won't say it out loud, he really respects hinata's drive and doesn't think his role on the court is "lame", but these are things he struggles to communicate. compounding all of this is that they're dumb, emotional, hormonal, very passionate high schoolers. anyway... this was a super long comment, my b, i just love this arc 😅 glad little bokuto gets to stick around for the reactions

  • @jellobubs_
    @jellobubs_ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Always look forward to these Haikyuu uploads saving me from boredom during my lunch breaks. This and the next couple episodes are some of my absolute favourite and I think really highlight one of Haikyuu’s biggest strengths- the characters.
    Especially this episode, like you said, you can more or less see where everyone is coming from and the conflict between Hinata and Kageyama feels realistic and believable.
    Thanks for the fun reaction video as always 🫡

  • @Viol_ation
    @Viol_ation 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    HEY HEY HEYYYY! Can't wait for the next few episodes!!!! Best season IMO 15:43 Ukai is saying that he 'felt' like he could see the other side is because Hinata closes his eyes in the quick attack. So if he could literally see Oikawa's face and eyes, his eyes must've been open.

  • @iris6818
    @iris6818 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This has to me the most tense episodes in the series so far. I am always in awe looking at Hinata and his spirit to improve and become stronger. That's such a good attitude.

  • @fruitpunchsamuraidavid
    @fruitpunchsamuraidavid 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is why I love Hinata as an MC he's driven by improvement, he's just here to become better! As the series goes on it's just gets put on full display

  • @NintendoMasterNo1
    @NintendoMasterNo1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    not the disrespect on the good lad Narita D:

  • @Crystal-jq6ps
    @Crystal-jq6ps 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    “He could see oikawa face, I don’t know why you want to do that, it’s not a pretty face at all” 16:44
    Loving the pettiness against oikawa😂

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hahaha I can't help it!!

  • @projectomnia1997
    @projectomnia1997 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    16:03 I am with you and Hinata on this and was when I watched the episode. I understood their concerns about how it could potentially back fire but the alternative was to not push your boundaries and try to improve beyond the basics which wouldn't improve you to the degree needed to compete at the level they wish to compete at. Hardest and most difficult/challenging route is the one with the most unknowns and pitfalls but it's also the only path that can yield you some pretty insane results in a short period of time, just means you're cramming work like crazy into every second, every minute and every day.

  • @Timerin
    @Timerin 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    don't blame us for your missing rizz haha.
    the next episode is one of my favourites! though I need to say alot more awesome stuff is coming up, but you are close to some very great episodes!

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I entirely blame you

    • @Timerin
      @Timerin 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lachyywhite yippie

  • @airaombiga8956
    @airaombiga8956 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i totally agreed about what you said, that the other teammates should support hinata instead of putting him down quickly. i thought it was always so weird for suga and the coach to agree with kags until i realized its being seen from a setters perspective (perhaps). that was my take on it anyways. also i found it so interesting and ironic in this episode when kags and hinata fight, that kags is speaking of hinatas selfishness and how its going to mess up the team… when, at the start, thats exactly how kagayema was like. he really grew from that and became a team player. 🥹 the next few episodes are gunna be so good and seeing everyone evolve and grow as individual players AND as a team is one of the reasons why s2 training arc is one of my favorites!!

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly, I couldn’t agree more!

  • @benlincoln7358
    @benlincoln7358 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Haikyuuu dayyyy!!!! Stoked for this arc

  • @petermilz9984
    @petermilz9984 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel like as a Volleyball Player you have to be on Kageyamas side. The Quick they do is the most unrealistic part about the show, that's why EVERYBODY is shocked when they see it for the first time, but Hinata wants to make it even more unrealistic. That's why I completely understand Kageyama, they don't have infinite time and because Hinata has little experience in everything but spiking, it would be pretty easy to get him to a decent level in a short amount of time by practicing that.
    But that's why I don't mind the quick in case of realism, they basically use it as a skill that's not developed in volleyball yet but very well could be in the future. So it makes sense to think about it like Hinata does "If its almost unstoppable, let's make it completely unstoppable"

  • @Kelly780
    @Kelly780 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The thing I love about this argument is that both Hinata and Kageyama both have valid points. And while I can absolutely see Hinata's perspective, I personally side more with Kageyama on this one. First of all, just because the freak quick gets stopped sometimes does not mean its completely useless - no attack has a 100% success rate, and no team will stop the freak quick 100% of the time either. Secondly, Hinata is pretty terrible at serving, blocking, and receiving - focusing on improving those skills would allow Hinata to win points in ways other than the quick. Hinata isn't wrong, but his desired path forward is absolutely more risky since the existing quick is the axis of Karasuno's offence. It's a bit of a gamble either way tbh.
    With respect to the rest of the team not supporting Hinata - I think it's more a matter of timing rather than not caring. Karasuno has one month before the next tournament begins, so they absolutely need to prioritize what they are practicing. If there were unlimited time, I think everyone might be more receptive to what Hinata wants to try (for instance, Kageyama was totally willing to stay late and try it out after practice ended). Overall, everyone wants the team to improve, they just have different views on how to do it.

  • @skyefox
    @skyefox 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    These conflicts are both my favorite and my most disliked, because neither side is really in the wrong. Kageyama wants Hinata to become a better all around player by focusing on his shortcomings, while Hinata wants to polish his one skill to the absolute limit.
    It's also interesting that Kageyama, Sugawara and Coach Ukai (all setters) end up sharing the same opinion because they don't quite have a spiker's perspective on what HInata is describing.

  • @hoshiharu
    @hoshiharu 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I find this soooo adorable because Bokuto is my absolute favorite hahaha aaaaawwww

  • @risakuragi1162
    @risakuragi1162 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the ep I've always been waiting for, this ep is the beginning of their development and I really like it seeing Hinata realize that he has to change if he wants to win.
    And the part when he said Kageyama was his partner, I was Yachi, hearing that made me want to cry 🥲🥲

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This episode was super heart breaking

  • @moonynava513
    @moonynava513 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nekomata sensei is asome, he has not only the volleyball wisdom but the love for Karasuno to envolve because he knows they have the potencial. BTW the next 6 episodes are the best!!!

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Absolutely love him even more now!

  • @jasmine9581
    @jasmine9581 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:32 ikr - he kept trying during the practice match last time, but

  • @Hutaru95
    @Hutaru95 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love this moment and it's needed and I'm looking forward to the next episodes :)

  • @SmallTownPH
    @SmallTownPH 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for making the screen rec bigger!

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I gotchu

  • @elaraj7400
    @elaraj7400 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Funny how u talked about Lev works on instinct after he blocked Hinata.. Can't wait for you to meet a certain middle blocker..😌

  • @projectomnia1997
    @projectomnia1997 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That line by Hinata about his and Kageyama's relationship as teammates always hit me. In my circumstance I happened to get that from the person who I call my best friend and to this day we push each other. It is a different feeling to have that kind of bond and so for Hinata this argument between them and the fallout from it really stings because like he said he felt Kageyama understood him. Which Kageyama does but because of his own growth from who he was prior to Karasuno and who he is now he is a little too focused on not reverting himself, plus there is the position difference that everyone has already brought up in the comments. It is complicated and both of them have very valid points, the teams offense DOES NOT improve to the level needed without Hinata improving as an attacker and Hinata seriously SUCKS at everything outside of attacking (which he hasn't even fully mastered) and really needs to improve his fundamentals. It really is a situation where choosing to focus on one of these things over the other before the tournament must be done and that'll mean sacrificing that same degree of development in whichever route you decide not to go.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s crazy how many of us can relate to moments within the show that actually happened in our life. It shows how great the writing is!

  • @icarussyndrome
    @icarussyndrome 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel like the crux of this episode comes down to Hinata wanting to do something that the others don't necessarily believe he's capable of. And I can kinda understand where they're coming from, given his inexperience and overall low skill level, but from a viewer's perspective when we've seen him do it with our own eyes it can be painful to see

  • @vphxn
    @vphxn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    such a heartbreaking episode but sets up for the next episodes which are so good!

  • @Warriorette12
    @Warriorette12 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kageyama, Suga, and Coach Ukai are all setters so, perspective-wise, they don’t exactly understand Hinata’s drive as a hitter to have more control over the mid-air battle because they’re used to being the ones directing the hitters. Being an ex-setter is also why Coach Ukai didn’t understand Hinata talking about his view above the net being so clear - he literally doesn’t understand what Hinata’s talking about cuz he’s never had that experience.

  • @GRANIME
    @GRANIME 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Friendly reminder to change the episode number in the title!

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeahhhhh my badd, rookie error

  • @Persewna4
    @Persewna4 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So excited for Haikyuu day! I actually just saw the latest Haikyuu movie in theaters the other day and it was so good! But I think I look forward to these reactions more because it's a lot less embarrassing to cheer at the t.v. in the privacy of my living room 😂
    You definitely called it on the drive back from training camp that there was a lot of tension left, and although it's hard to watch them fight, I think it's good that they did let it out rather than let things simmer. Good thing Tanaka was still around though to break things up, poor Yachi was out of her depth!
    I also felt frustrated by everyone trying to play it safe during the practice matches, because when else can you make mistakes and still keep playing? I really appreciated that Takeda-sensei was so positive about the situation and was able to convey that to the team, that being weak isn't a bad thing if they realize how much potential is left for them to grow. These next episodes are going to be so much fun, seeing what they do to change and evolve! I cannot wait!

  • @lex_lvs_scara
    @lex_lvs_scara 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First time i watched this i was doing well holding the tears until I saw Hinata cry on his way back home, broke my heart

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Super heart breaking!

  • @strawberrystars8302
    @strawberrystars8302 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    technically speaking, kageyama is right. hinata doesn’t _need_ to do anything but swing his arm - but if he could do it with his eyes open, he would be able to adapt it to the situation. however, that takes away some of kageyama’s control, which i think feels bigger to him than it is. with the freak quick it’s like he’s saying “if you hit directly in front of you when i send it here, you’ll score”, so when hinata wants to change it, what i think kageyama hears is “(you’re) that’s not good enough to win”

  • @arunapache91
    @arunapache91 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    13:50 not ur will is more like " you don't need to think to hit the ball I set for you", is probably what he meant

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahhh okay I getchu

  • @oriondourden
    @oriondourden 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Teach with the Speech.

  • @angelovillanueva9014
    @angelovillanueva9014 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lachy another essay for you brother :D all good to ignore! Once again coming from a vb club player perspective

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I always appreciate your essays! You’ve done a great job of breaking it down for me and speaking in volleyball language haha. That makes it way easier for me to comprehend the situation as a whole

  • @DMBABT
    @DMBABT 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Feel your feels Mr. White

  • @brycepatterson2158
    @brycepatterson2158 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    being able to see the block and the receiver and the receivers eyes takes abnormally good vision, and during a jump no less. people of lesser vision, and athletic ability will never see that. second the whole premise of the freak quick is that kageyama pinpoint sets the ball to hinata just as he swings so hinata doesnt have a way to change how he hits the ball and where he hits the ball which is his will and the only way the quick works is if hinata believes 100% the ball will hit his hand when he swings.

  • @ChelleLockHeart
    @ChelleLockHeart 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With Kageyama, Suga, an dCoach Ukai all talking with Hinata and Ukai specifically not knowing what Hinata meant by what he could say was he also doesn't believe Hinata has the experience and skill to properly see which is why he was saying he "felt" like he could see. A few others have also said it's 3 setters talking to him which plays a role in it too. If you had Tanaka or Asahi in on that conversation they would have backed Hinata up and things would have turned out differently. In short the 3 setters underestimated Hinata's eyes and mentality to keep up and process the information he's seeing in such a short time for that quick.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ahhh okay that makes total sense, thank you for breaking it down for me!

  • @camilaayalarubiani7653
    @camilaayalarubiani7653 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you don't have a boyfriend who's telling you to drink water or eat food YOU BETTER HAVE DONE IT TODAY!
    *gasps*

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Caught out 😂

  • @arianag4181
    @arianag4181 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lachy: have some water
    me: oh shit good idea
    Lachy: especially the girls
    me: hOW THE FJUCK DID HE KNOW

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HAHAHAH I'm so late to replying to this but I thought it was hilarious

  • @evancarvalho2195
    @evancarvalho2195 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    thank you for getting hinata's point of view!!

  • @lemonkatze7461
    @lemonkatze7461 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    another moment where someone is on the line and its once again is tobio lol

  • @AngeloidAstra
    @AngeloidAstra 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Lev sure is a slithery little sneaky ssssnaaake 😂 he does have a very snakey look i'm with you there.
    C'mon bro don't call me out on not having had water in like 8 hours 😭
    Yeah Kageyama is basically saying his "will" (ie his determination to grow and evolve the freak quick) isn't needed because it's not Hinata's skill that is the main force, it's Kageyama. A little sprinkling of ego for Kageyama still, but Suga agreeing there is a little bit sad. I think the other setters (him and Ukai anyway) are just not able to see firstly from the perspective of a hitter, and secondly are kinda blinded by the setter's skill required. It is kinda weird that they just refuse to believe a hitter can see anything from the top of the net.
    I have to say Ukai, my pookie my dear my love, was not on his game this episode. He was backing down instead of pushing further 😤

    • @Persewna4
      @Persewna4 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I interpreted "his will" to mean that Hinata does not need to determine where the spike will go when it's the freak quick, that once he's in the air it is Kageyama who is in charge of where the ball goes. That is, Hinata is not fighting until the last moment, he is merely the vessal that Kageyama is using to get past the blockers. And that's what's frustrating for Hinata, because those freak quicks are getting stopped, that's what was stopped when they lost to Seijoh, and Hinata with his eyes closed lost those valuable seconds where he could have changed the angle of his hit if he were able to hit the quick with his own will. If the freak quick keeps getting shut out, Hinata is not needed on the court anymore...

    • @AngeloidAstra
      @AngeloidAstra 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Persewna4 mhm, good point. These all lead back to the ego of Kageyama as the setter, and I suppose in a way his own fear of not having anyone there to hit the ball he sets. He knows what they are doing works so he stubbornly wants to do that and not risk anything else.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You better have had water after this!😂 thank you for the break down as always, I really appreciate it and it makes it way easier for me to comprehend as a whole

  • @Jonasbman
    @Jonasbman 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way I read it is that Hinatas bump into Asahi was taken as a sign of how Hinata zeroed in on one thing when trying to adapt. I agree with you that they are being too cautious about his will to evolve, something that Nekomas coach also points out, but here we need to take into account that our Coach Ukai jr has never coached before. It might also be a cultural thing where harmony in the team is valued over the eagerness of an individual in this japanese setting.
    Its easy for us as spectators to forget that they are all learning together and despite us having some top tier leaders in our team (Suga, Nishinoya, Daichi) they are all young and inexperienced. I think you are going to enjoy this arc alot as we do get the chance to dive deeper into "How to improve" and "Growth mindset" during this arc. Also, Saeko will be back later so make sure to get them numbers up! :D

  • @YataCallie4411
    @YataCallie4411 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yeah this episode was frusrating to me when i first saw it. no one was validating hinata at all. it felt like a just do your job and spike the ball for the team in a way. so i get why they had that fight. and kageyama is very prideful so him thinking that hinata is dissing his tosses makes sense. in a way kageyama is still thinking about his ego cause he does say for the team but his thinking doesnt really reflect that if hes still trggered by his tosses being precieved as negative. like hearing youre the best decoy is aweosme but also the fact people aroudn you are like actually its the setter thats amazing the spiker just shows up to spike it, that would mess with someones ego. another great reaction as always! :D

  • @cookiemonster6468
    @cookiemonster6468 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I will always take Kageyama's side because volleyball is a team sport and I dislike selfish/egoistical people. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that even if Hinata learns to hit the ball without closing his eyes he will still depend on Kageyama. If Kageyama gets taken out of the court for some reason Hinata will be rendered useless again.
    Do you know what will not make him useless if he's not paired with Kageyama? Being good at serving, blocking, and receiving.

    • @shadowbyron1
      @shadowbyron1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I disagree, you dont improve those skills in a day as has already been said in the anime. Hinata has under a year of proper volleyball experience, he is never going to be better at serving, blocking or receiving than the others at this point anyways. If Kageyama gets taken off Hinata wont do much anyways, you might as well sub on one of the second years for the defensive ability (particularly ennoshita). But if Hinata can perform even better with Kageyama, who is on the court for quite a while because he is the best setter regardless of Sugas other playstyle that can work better sometimes, then why not encourage it? Also, Karasuno would probably not even be where it is right now if not for Hinata. Without the freak quicks I dont see them winning half as many matches. kageyama would just be doing basic sets in fear of a repeat of his middle school experience. Asahi and Noya might not even be on the team. I feel at minimum Karasuno owes it to Hinata to let him try to improve. Also, he is in high school. If he doesnt improve now, then when? Out of high school when Kageyama will most likely not be his setter and he is behind on every other volleyball skill from lack of experience? As much of a team sport volleyball may be you have to care about yourself first in my opinion. Karasuno is basically telling Hinata to stagnate in his volleyball career just so he can serve as their blocker and hit Kageyamas freak quicks. Freak quicks they seem to constantly forget have been blocked multiple times by now. What is Kageyama even going to do to improve them? You say you dislike selfish/egoistical people as if Kageyama was never that, not to mention it seems pretty selfish and egotistical to tell someone to not bother trying to improve at a skill so they can get better if you ask me.
      Sorry for the wall of text, this episode and people's reactions to it often annoy me because everyone conveniently forgets that Karasuno would not be here without Hinata and unlike everyone else around Hinata does not have anywhere close to enough volleyball experience. I dont think we ever see it outright in the anime but I highly doubt Hinata is just not practicing serves, blocks and receives.
      Also sorry if this came off as offensive or attacking to you, never had that intention.

    • @cookiemonster6468
      @cookiemonster6468 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@shadowbyron1 I'm annoyed just as much as you are but for the opposite reason. And you saying that Karasuno wouldn't be where it is if it wasn't for Hinata... I think they owe more to Kageyama, tbh.
      I can agree to disagree, though. I don't want to sit down and argue about this for what seems like the 100th time.

    • @shadowbyron1
      @shadowbyron1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cookiemonster6468 Sure, agree to disagree is fine. We all have our opinions and it doesnt stop us all form enjoying the show. Just wanted to clear something up though, with Hinata I meant more outside of matches. Yes, in games they absolutely owe Kageyama... basically everything. But i meant mainly, without Hinata the scene where Asahi gets inspired to join again doesnt happen (the others didnt seem to have luck in convincing him to return anytime soon) and without Asahi we dont have Noya if he is to be believed. And as talented as he is I am not sure Kageyama can carry Karasuno all the way through Seijoh even without Oikawa with just Tanaka as a primary hitter, and Daichi as the best defense we have. Let alone other teams like Date. Of course, we can never know. Maybe Asahi would eventually join again and with him Noya. But thats a moot point by now.

    • @cookiemonster6468
      @cookiemonster6468 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@shadowbyron1 ooh, yeah, I see what you mean now... you're probably right. Thank you for clearing it up and being respectful. I appreciate you.

  • @Dudebeanboiguy
    @Dudebeanboiguy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    HE SAID I WAS A LEGEND so is his sixhead

  • @besupaaa
    @besupaaa 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hiiii baby Bokuto! Hope he's having fun watching the episodes with us. ❤

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro is having the time of his life!

  • @hamstar86
    @hamstar86 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hinata’s intention is far from being selfish, he want to improve the one and significant thing he was effectively contributed to the team and he’s pointing out the problem that everyone is not really aware of/afraid to admit it and man kageyama did a poor job in communicating his reasons but that’s not surprising, it hurts watching them fight though and how hinata cried at the end :'(
    What I absolutely love about haikyuu is that to solve problems and lay out all the difficulties, it is supposed to be uncomfortable and complicated but if you can overcomes them and passes those phase you will eventually be rewarded in one way or another, it doesn’t guarantee success but at least you can say that you tried, because how can you expect different output when you walked on the same path that made you failed before
    I swear hinata's development is such an amazing thing to experience as a viewer/reader throughout the story, but not only his own potential that he has to raise and polish but to fight against the doubt from people around him as well and that make his mindset perfect for this challenge

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes this episode was super heartbreaking for me

  • @johnnysoccer1983
    @johnnysoccer1983 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My personal thoughts on the coach not understanding Hinata was more that, it was Hinata rather than some players can see all of that. That plus I think when you're up there you see bits and pieces of what's going on around you rather than everything like Hinata seemed to say he was, as hitters still have to look at the ball as well. The detail he was giving was a surprise, like seeing someone's eyes etc. The fact that it was Hinata, who's so far just been seen as an athletic freak rather than an intelligent player who notices everything, makes it surprising hearing this from him. That's just my personal views on that interaction with the coach anyways....

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ahhh okay that makes more sense! Thank you for breaking it down for me

  • @mrfr33b0i2
    @mrfr33b0i2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:19 Lachy, kindly explain yourself 😂

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Never 😂

  • @xklaukix
    @xklaukix 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    About Hinata's whole situation...
    Like, to be fair, Hinata has ONLY shown them that all he's got is speed and leg force (they even mention that his attacks are not that strong, but shince they're fast, they're really hard to stop), so only physical strengths, instinct. He's usually taken as a "not so smart" person (not saying he actually is, but how he has been percieved so far)
    Now, if someone with those attributes (or specs, or idk the right work here, hopefully one of those) comes up to you and says they want to do something related to thinking, I feel like its completely understandable to be a bit sceptical, right?
    Specially if these people are like us and super competitive and want to focus on "making the team better" (ehem...kageyama)
    So I wouldn't really blame them for not "letting him" try it out.
    They're probably thinking "We're weeks away from fighting the teams that already defeated us once. I want to win. Their attack is strong. I'll just find another way to make it work, we don't have time to try something that is probably not gonna work"
    Now, not trying to say I actually agree with this. If anything, trying to make it work could help the others practice as well, I'm just trying to make sense of what they could be thinking at this time. We (the viewers) know what hinata is capable of, and we believe in him.
    Honestly, I think this is EXACTLY the moment where..not the team, not Hinata or Kageyama, but the COACH to grow and learn to be better.
    He's new to this whole coach thing too, remember?
    He's an actual player, wasn't a coach before this, so right now, he's still learning alongside them. These are the moments that make a good coach. If he learns, the team can continue to grow.
    Sorry about the rant. English is not my first language so it's a bit hard to get my idea out there correctly.....and also adhd.. 🙄
    As always, great video!! You're doing great!
    See you on twitch or shorts later! 🤣

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You’ve done a great job at breaking it down for me! I really appreciate that and it all made total sense

  • @22_fahmimohamadramdan92
    @22_fahmimohamadramdan92 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just remember that hinata does not have any good enough technic right now. he still learn how to do something on its own. because of his lacking on technical understanding he can not say it better to the others.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes very true!

  • @KuroVVV
    @KuroVVV 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s finally happened. only if he stood on the dam line day 1

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HAHAHAHAHA you're great

  • @darqlyte1104
    @darqlyte1104 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Regarding Coach Ukai not understanding what Hinata all about because he knew that Hinata not skill as other player that can experience that brief slo-moment, for him Hinata only have speed, stamina, agilty nothing about volleyball skill naturally. I think..😅

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ahh okay that makes sense!

  • @Tofunekouhai
    @Tofunekouhai 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like this episode cuz what kageyama said is not wrong too. If Hinata polish his block more, he might get a point too. If he polish his receiving, he can reduce the mistakes on court. So its not all bout attack/spiking to be better at yourself. But at the same time..... It is sad to be hinata where he BELIEVE he CAN do more attack mid air, but we need somebody to help him onthat.. thats whyy. I cant hate both of the ideaaaa

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes both of them make very good points

  • @jasmine9581
    @jasmine9581 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ohhh hunger...

  • @evancarvalho2195
    @evancarvalho2195 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    also, this is high school. if he can't try to evolve himself here, where is he supposed to do it??

  • @cozycramorant9017
    @cozycramorant9017 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for being our internet bf and reminding us to drink water. Sorry! 🙈

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I gotchu!!

  • @kujiisz
    @kujiisz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been wondering, will you ever show us one of your games?

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hopefully! If I ever go back to playing I will definitely record the game as well!

  • @elina_01
    @elina_01 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think ukai made the right call switching hinata out for the rest of the day. the way he is right now, something like colliding with asahi could easily happen again and get other players hurt. hinata is too emotional at that moment and had to relax for a bit. you said "narita is not gonna be the key to us winning", but practice matches arent about winning, they are about learning and improving. Its a good idea to get some bench warmers to play too, cause there can always be an emergency in the future, where one of them have to get into an official match. so they should be able to play well together with the team as well. which is what narita can learn by playing in practice matches.
    All in all, i think Ukai made mostly the right call here. The only thing where i would disagree with him is that its impossible for hinata to see the blocks that well. however, as kageyama said, there is not much time until the official matches start and trying to do something new shortly before that might prove as a waste of time, if hinata could spend that time practicing receives, blocks and serves instead. but thats a whole other can of worms to open.
    in this situation, all sides have a point.

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is a great way to break it down! Thank you for explaining it for me

  • @kyrathereaper9109
    @kyrathereaper9109 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey now. My fiancee calls me out enough about not eating man. Dont need ya calling me out like that! But thank you. I'll go eat now 😂

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lets go! Great stuff

  • @AlquimistEd
    @AlquimistEd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm sorry about Saeko. :(
    Hope you bounce back brother. 🙏

    • @lachyywhite
      @lachyywhite  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Still crying 😂