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Great video. I agree on Honda, by far the best combo on the market. I owned a 2012 Sportsman 400HO, sold it and bought a 420 Rancher SRA. After a tire upgrade, the 420 rode as comfortable as the Sportsman. Sold the Honda because I did not ride it enough. Miss it, want a 520 footshift.
well Honda are great for long term. power wise canam are hard to beat and they are close to the Honda far as reliability . ive owned both and not have a foot shift 500. if you want speed canam 850 outlander hands down.
Fm1 is the best!! I have the 2023 you wont regret it
Hell ya. Built my fourtrax 300 from your videos. Got a talon ,now looking for a new Rubicon. Thanks for the content dude. Also you are one smart dude. You put some serious r&d into these rigs.
So happy to see you back on a rubicon
I ordered mine 6 weeks ago. Delivery time between 4 and 16 weeks. I hope to have it for summer. Didn't had any problem with my dealership, no markups , they even pay for the transportation and preparation.
What dealer?
@@MudPuppyOffroad I live in Canada, MotoIllimite
Buying a 4 wheeler in Canada is a mark up lol
@@tylermccomber1284 loll you are totally right.
I know your commented to the tires you are, just FYI, STI R4’s are amazing!! On a Rubicon that is, dont float, pull great and look stupid good. Either way, best Honda friendly channel on TH-cam..
I wish they made 33s for 18" wheels! I definately wanted the R4's on mine!!
Thanks for assuring me making my purchase of my Honda over a can am !!! It was a huge debate I’ve also had can ams. And. Originally Hondas. The Hondas just run and run. With minimal maintenance
Can’t wait to see the build I plan on building my 520 with you with the 6 inch boxes!!! Really made me interested when you said you can rake the portals
I bought the complete winch setup from kolpin for my 21 rubicon 520 and I love it, mounts perfect and not expensive and comes with everything you need, I’d suggest checking it out, yours looks really weird
Mind linking that winch?
Mud Puppy, I have the same exact bike, color and everything. I can’t wait to watch your build series on it.
I want to do so much to mine but this is my first bike and I don’t know what can/can’t be done
I feel like mud puppy could build a four wheeler that would never break
i currently have a 96 300fw but id love a new rubicon. itll be my next 4 wheeler for sure. id prolly already have one if they were available for sale....
I got a 2020 dct with a 43% gear reduction I love it haven’t had a problem yet 93hrs and 330 miles on gr
And I’m on 20s and 33s
I love my 60% GR in my Rubicon but I recently installed 40% in a DCT Rubicon and must admit the fast shifting dct might give you 2 useable low gears. Plus reverse by button.
For what you paid for the quad, you could have bought the crawl box setup for the yxz.
But either way it's good to have a dedicated mud toy.
i agree but i think in my personality opinion for what i seen and all the quads i have owned a 570 xmr is the best bang for your buck i have had no issues with mine and i have ran it hard it’s entire life i just do regular maintenance and she has been great all my buddy’s have honda’s ranchers , foreman’s and rubicons they all have had several issues with different things electrical problems diffs axles over heating issues i still think can am is the way to go in my opinion i still own a honda and i have had several i just think if you do your maintenance you will have no problem with a can am
Holy shit you sound diff, thats how long its been since I watched one of your videos lol
No aluminum wheels? With deluxe package
Bought a 21 foreman wish I would have gotten the irs Rubicon
Listen up Honda your boy is speaking 🤘🤘
I like this video like most of your videos. You have a wealth of knowledge on the different bikes you've owned. I know your a big Honda fan as so am I . I've owned a rancher and my son has a Rubicon and we love them. I purchased an 850 highlighter back in 2019 because I'm a-lot heavier than I used to be and wanted more power. I absolutely love the bike and have had very minimal issues and I run deep water with it just like my Honda. I'm curious to know why in this video you said the 850 highlighter you owned was a mistake. All the videos I've watched of it, you say a-lot of good things about it and how reliable it was, you seemed impressed with the gearing, cooling, snorkeling and the front posi. You also stated that it was the best mud bike in it's class for the money.
Probably said it because he’s a Honda man
I just bought a brand new rubicon. What’s wrong with the can am?
The color is sick
I have 2018 dct just did portals I hate the dct but hopefully the portals help
I'd like to try one of these Rubicon's next, I've had a grizzly since 2014 and by far the best wheeler Ive ever had. Right up there in reliability with Honda but I'll give Honda the nod for not using a belt, even though you can't kill a Yamaha belt they can still get wet and leave you SOL.
yup! have had a 2012 grizzly since new and we haven't touched the belt in all those years. towed plenty boats, gone fairly deep and plenty of snow donuts and it hasn't skipped a beat
I love Honda No joke
Bravo another quad to beat the shit out of
I heard the polaris was a horrible idea lol. What was the bad with polaris? Just bought a 2022 ultimate trail edition 850 with 30" terache aztex and 2" bracket lift and I didn't much like hearing the highlifter was a horrible idea 😅. I will probably buy a Rubicon 520 or Yamaha 700 grizzly next just for the reliability concern. I love the polaris and canam power/torque though 💪.
Power=problems 😂
Been awhile since I've tuned in. Glad I did to see that you're back on a Rubicon! I'll be looking forward to watching the build.
Quick question...living in the high desert, I can't justify snorkeling my machine. I do however encounter an occasional creek crossing. So, what would be the maximum water depth I could safely go in a fully stock non-snorkled Rubicon 500 DCT? The manual says only 10 inches, I believe.
Thanks in advance and keep the great content coming Mud Pup!
Have a perfect video coming out for you soon.
@@MudPuppyOffroad Great! I'll be looking forward to it. Thanks for the reply.
Have a great day!
I’d like to see you do a full motor build on a Honda.
Yes! I've wanted some more atv stuff.
I just got a 2024 Honda Rubicon 520 EPS DCT. I totally love it, and got it because it's very reliable. My buddy across the street got a Can-Am Outlander 850 XP I think it is. That Can-Am feels like you're riding on a cloud, and it's so smooth also. Why did you get rid of your Can-Am & Polaris? Do they break down a lot? I'm just curious. I've been hearing stories, but his seems fine. I'm glad I got a Rubicon though.
I currently have a 2023 generation 3 XMR 700. It's been much more reliable than my other Can-Ams. Polaris quads are incredibly outdated
Got to hand it too u tho
U know your stuff guy 🤘
Like it better when u were riding Canam tho
Wheres the old 300 with axle paddle?
Sold
Does it annoy you that they changed the racks in 22 and the tires. I mean how much money is it saving them?
The rack looks more expensive
Congrats on the new Rubi. I too was on the fence between an Outlander 850 and the Rubicon 520. Glad I chose the Honda.
It looks like the Honda/Warn winch was installed upside down on yours, as mine has the free-spool knob mounter on the left side.
Question for you. Just watched your P1000 led headlight swap and want to do the same. Did you reuse the plug from the old headlights and if so, how did you get the pins to release from the plug? Is there a special tool for that? Thanks again. 👍
I have a 2012 Honda rancher 420 straight axle and was wondering how hard it is to snorkel it.
Any suggestions for what shocks to buy for a smoother ride? Do a lot of trail riding . Not a whole lot of mudding.
Elkas
When are the portals gonna be put on it 🤣
did you confirm if the gear out the 4in pioneer portals would fit another models 6in portals?
Fuck yeah! Been here since I bought my first one in 2016 after seeing your vids
Hey bud I've been following you for awhile now and I'm having issues with my 2020 Rubicon deluxe is there anyway I could send you a video of the problem I'm having and maybe get some advice I would greatly appreciate it.
I want to see you do a grizzly 700 almost willing to ship you mine for you to test its a 2018 and it's definitely better than the honda imo
Too many snorkels, not low enough gears, diff mounts break, no gear reductions available
With clutch mods the gearing can be lowered.
Stock is 2.4 turns if primary to 1 of secondary. With clutch mods and machine work I’ve got mine to 3.1 to 1 so that’s 29% and you have an extra 200cc’s over a Honda so you got more nuts to turn them. Turns 29.5 OL2’s in nasty peanut butter with ease. But yes the down side is that’s it… can’t go bigger, can’t get anymore GR. Could do floorboards and 31s if you had Mostly water and not peanut butter mud. Honda seems like the sky is the Limit
@@MudPuppyOffroad “I’m bout to end this man’s whole career” -MP
Hondas are unstoppable cuh had a 2018 420 es flooded it 5 times and it never stalled matter fact i sold it for twice as much as i paid and dude still got it qnd no problems other than ball bearings in the rear axel but wat do you expect for a honda on 35s
Hey man, I recently acquired a 2020 Rubicon that has 29's on it. Something in the back is clicking when I turn, previous owner replaced the hubs. I feel like probably an axle shaft (boots do look okay thought) and wonder if I'm on borrowed time with 29's anyway. Having a really hard time finding the right aftermarket ones. Any recommendations on aftermarket axles for 2020 Rubicon?
Glad you got another Honda, do you still plan to get a grizzly?
na too many snorkels lol
Krx1000 for next sxs?! I don’t have one, just haven’t seen much of them
I have a buddy with one we're kind of building it right now unfortunately I don't think I'll mess with it too heavy not enough power and the belt
The important question....when will it float
Nice 👍
How to get the quad up with a manual
The majority of Hondas are foot shift.
@@MudPuppyOffroad I know that but I just can't wheelie my 2015 Rubicon foot shift. Any suggestions?
You have to be on stock tires and this is at 520 so that helps. Other than that it's mostly just down to timing and body language which kind of comes with experience
Do some 40x11.2-20 tirons
What trim Rubicon is this?
Delux footshift
So would installing foreman secondary gears in a 420 have any benefit of turning the tires better or would it be worse
3% reduction
Ok thank you
Do you have stock exhaust?
Yes
How come you don’t run your snorkel in the middle? Just curious
Headlight...
I noticed on all your Rubicon builds you never ran a rad relocate. Is that just due to the riding areas you frequent I guess that don't clog up the rad? I couldn't make it through a full ride without running into overheating so I had to relocate mine. But the places I rode are super sandy and lots of clay mud so that probably didn't help.
I don't like the heat blowing across me, and I like my top headlight and front rack usage. I find that if you clean the radiator thoroughly after every ride it's ok. Also I had overheating never really results in any damage
Question. I’m getting back into the wheeler life. I’m 110% sold on Rubicon. Granted I’m not gonna do to much crazy stuff. I was considering the DCT version but some say I’ll run into problems if I go with 27in tires. Want to keep things modest. Mostly trail riding light missing. Do you think I’ll have issues with the 27in tires on a DCT or should I just find a foot shift?
Those tires won't cause any problems. They are reliable if you don't get water in the oil
@@MudPuppyOffroad I plan on snorkeling it. Just in case. I mean maybe water half way up the bike. At most
What do you think about reduction boss gear reductions? Are they any good.
They good
@@MudPuppyOffroad OK thank you
What color is that?
do they have discs in the back or drums
Single disc on the pinion
Not a pleasant experience with demon axles, order the heavy duty for my grizzly, did not fit cause larger diameter, it was binding against the knuckle. Sent them back and had them ship the rugged axle, which is supposed to be better than OEM. Immediately both axles were clicking. And also this exchange took forever. Their customer service sucks. And getting my money back is taking forever too. I will never deal with them again.
That's interesting I've ran them on a lot of machines and never had any issues but I've never had a grizzley
I like my rubicon, but the main reason people get rid of their Honda for something else is because they are slow af. And especially so, after a gear reduction. I think Honda would make a lot of people happy if they would just finally come out with at least a 45+ hp four wheeler. That 2ish or so hp gain you get from the 500 to 520 is unnoticeable. Waist of engineering and manufacturing.
It's all about how you ride them... You'll ever see me at the back of the pack. Also the 520 is a good improvement for torque helps with turning mud tires and not needing a reduction which is evident in my recent videos
I have a dct 420 getting a gr is that bad?
Sell it and get a footshift
@@MudPuppyOffroad Is there really that many problems with it?
@@masonboyd6220 it's the 2nd highest geared Honda of all time. Not good for mudding.
You need to try a grizzly
my 570 would walk that thing in every situation
Not sure which 570 you're talking about but you're categorically wrong either way
😂😂😂😂 chill pills take some
@@MudPuppyOffroad 570 sportsman, it’s walked 2 of those with 32s
@@FukemMotorsports 😂👎
yes the canams are useless for your type of riding, deep deep water and clay etc. if you bring your hondas up to canada and try and take them through skeg and the mud that we have you wont make it very far. not enough power or speed.
good thing im no where near canada lol
Canadian here. Rubicon works fine for deep mud riding here in Ontario. But yes when the group goes off into the skeg I usually park the Honda and watch the Can-Am's play.
@@KThach. just subbed
when I had my rancher it would go anywhere a can am or polaris would go, only had skinny wide zillas but went anywhere decently
Soo confused? Why spend 10000 on a atv that has less horsepower and torque then a common lawn mower. Then try to turn it into a Mud machine.. blows my mind. You could detune a Polaris 850 or canam 850 and stock would work better then this by 1000%. Sad that Honda and Yamaha are still making atvs that belong in 1995
Apparently it doesn't take much to blow your little mind. I'll play along though and try to answer your pointless question. It has everything to do with gearing and reliability. On average a Honda puts more torque to the ground per day than both of the vehicles you are talking about because hondas actually work and there are many options for low gears. It's literally that simple
@@MudPuppyOffroad per day? Lol.. dude STFU? Just cause you have problems
With canams or Polaris doesn’t mean everyone does? My riding group has 8 canams 2 Polaris and 2 Yamaha. On average the Yamahas are broke the most? Which is crazy as they are usually super reliable. Couple years ago it was the Polaris’s. It changes time to time depending on what model you have and how you take care of your shit. Also luck. The Honda couldn’t put more torque to the ground with a hellcat engine. Just cause you have portals doesn’t make a Honda better? You can put portals on anything bro. Lol. Your back on a canam now and it’s the shitty kids model 700 new style. In a few months you will talk shit about all canams and buy another useless underpowered honda because you bought the kids base model canam. The new 700 is a shorty motor and they are blowing head gaskets on the canam forums lol.. so this one actually is not reliable lol.. 😂😂. Can’t make
This shit up I love it lol.
I'm not dissing the Honda. They're good machines but five years later you're still bitching about the can-am's. Meanwhile I've never broken mine. I've really pushed the limits of my '09 800 renegade And never had an issue. And you're simultaneously having to do a bunch of mods to try to keep from breaking and drowning your Honda.
I'm thinking maybe you're just biased? The belt drive is definitely a limitation of any machine that uses one. But!
You're definitely exceeding the manufacturer's theory of operations, regardless of brand.
If you swamp and abuse a machine, eventually it's gonna break.
You haven't really demonstrated the reliability of Honda because you haven't kept one long enough to really find out. Honda's are reliable. I've owned several of them, that's not the point. You haven't shown that one Honda can take that sort of abuse year after year.
No machine can take the abuse of submersion in mud and water in the mechanicals and electronics. Eventually it's going to find it's way past seals and repairs will have to be done.
I've had 5 cam am junk
@@MudPuppyOffroad you've had 3 Honda's according to this video. Why'd you get rid of the first two if they're so superior?
You're hunting for the perfect machine for what you're trying to do and there isn't one. Mudding is high maintenance on any machine.
We've seen you ride.
My guess is, you either break everything or it doesn't have the built in performance to do what you want it to do. The Honda doesn't break because it's tame. It's built that way specifically for reliability. No horsepower and moderate torque.
Keep this Honda for five years and do it how you do it. Let's see if it holds up to the abuse?
You're calling one thing junk but anyone who's been around a while and knows a thing or two about machines and off roading can see that you're not representing an evenly matched comparison.
Your Honda with arched A-arms when you had the 2016 can-am was like comparing apples to oranges. When you had the xmr, did you put the waterproofing work into it like you are on this Honda?
Sure the visco-lok sucks for predictable and reliable "full time" traction. I'll grant you that. It's designed for a purpose and marketed for that specific consumer. For 99% of riding and riders, it performs fine. For the other 1% that's what a torque lock is for.
If you get a belt wet and then abuse it, you're gonna smoke it and the clutch.
Everyone already knows that.
Sorry but from what I've seen, I gotta call bullshit.