The half seal you tried to pull out is pressed into the housing using a special stepped installing tool so not to over load the spring and damage the sealing surface. It’s a wonder he didn’t have coolant in the oil due to loss of preload on the seal. As soon as I saw the wear in the oil pump I knew the shaft must of moved sideways and the noise could be the impeller contacting the snail of the water pump
Unless Yamaha have done it differently to everyone else, I'd say your dead right. I've replaced many of these at work rebuilding lifeboat fire and bilge pumps, and a couple on Honda bikes. The ring was always ceramic, and evident by how easily they crack if you don't install them carefully!
😂 Not a true Delsplain, I figured you were taking the piss a bit (thrown off by the super slippy I guess). I was waiting for a deep explanation of how they form the pencil leads into the carbon face, which is the super slippy one FYI.
So was I, I said it was the impellor binding on the casing (which it did) and I then said does it still make that sound when full of water (which it wouldnt cos it would be back together and working) double boooyaaa
gr8 stuff Matt, didnt even know about these till now, I ride a poxy old korean bike, love the banter and when people dont understand when your avin a laugh and the little piss takes, oh they get so defensive for the other bloke.
How much resistance should the whole assembly put together have when turning the oil pump sprocket? Should there be loose and tight spots in the rotation being it’s a pump?
@@dirtygarageguy okay. I’m turning it with coolant and oil still in the bike and the chain hooked up. But the clutch basket it off. And it has a bit of resistance. More than I feel it should k think I hear a squeak noise when it gets tight. The service manual doesn’t give you much here. Just tells you to turn it and if it turns smoothly then it’s okay.
Hah. I'll be damned. That's a simple assembly. I wasn't expecting Yamaha to use a stamped steel impeller since everything else on the bike is so damn fancy. Then again, I've always been a fan of straight-vane impellers.
Interesting stuff. How does that mechanical-type seal compare to a more traditional lip seal? Is there any reason Yamaha would go for one over the other? You mentioned how reliable it is, but wouldn't the longevity of one of those PTFE coated lip seals be similar?
Is this a recall? why is yamaha selling a bike that would fail like that i just picked up a 05 and the guy told me the bike kbb for 4500 an that their was nothing wrong with it we made the deal i got it put in my name an got a plate an tag for it an last night i opened the oil fill cap and the clutch side is full of snot i mean bad worst than ive ever seen im a wreck right now and dont know what to do
We know for sure that Mr Stupid Fast would have just taken to the chocolate starfish with a grinder ! And then started that it's adding horse power ! ;)
wait a minute... so by taking the sprocket out and releasing the pressure of the seal, that means collant went to the oil pump? (i will never get one of this guess the issue videos right)
Damn, those latest videos are just giberish to me.....got no clue whats happnin....just metal motor parts and hands on yellow board.... Still watching em all
.. ya for people who saw oil pump in title but water pump in the picture.. thats clickbait for angry know it all internet types, gotta come in see what the hell is going on
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The half seal you tried to pull out is pressed into the housing using a special stepped installing tool so not to over load the spring and damage the sealing surface.
It’s a wonder he didn’t have coolant in the oil due to loss of preload on the seal. As soon as I saw the wear in the oil pump I knew the shaft must of moved sideways and the noise could be the impeller contacting the snail of the water pump
loving the new no bullshit format as always thanks matt
Are you sure that rotating face is PTFE? Nice Delsplanation of what looks like a Carbon/Aluminium Oxide (ceramic) mech seal.
Could be, didn't spectrally analyse it. Not exactly delsplaining though is it you twat 🤔
Unless Yamaha have done it differently to everyone else, I'd say your dead right. I've replaced many of these at work rebuilding lifeboat fire and bilge pumps, and a couple on Honda bikes. The ring was always ceramic, and evident by how easily they crack if you don't install them carefully!
It’s not delsplaining if you actually know the topic at hand. He didn’t say it’s PTFE & that PTFE comes from recycled aluminum. That’s delsplaining.
😂 Not a true Delsplain, I figured you were taking the piss a bit (thrown off by the super slippy I guess). I was waiting for a deep explanation of how they form the pencil leads into the carbon face, which is the super slippy one FYI.
3 slippies. So is this the scale we are going to gauge all lubricity from now on? 0.00 - 4.00 slippies
Eyup,northern.Its so easy to jump to a conclusion,innit.All the best.
Mechanical seal very similar to the cx500 from the 70s. I’m having nightmares already about the fact of changing mine a couple of years ago.
Well I can no longer say I know nothing about a r1. I now know one thing.
Ok now I need to know what inspired him to take the motor apart in the first place. Mystery bike engine theatre is fun!
You'll find out in time! lol
@@andrewfirth Hope it wasn't too painful or expensive.
Spent ages thinking what the noise would be.
Wouldn't have guessed that if i had a week to think about it. 👍
So technically I was the only one right, I said “seems fine to me” & it was. Boooyaaa
Lol
Congratulations 🥳 your prize is a 12 month apprenticeship at Delboy’s Garage 👍 enjoy 😂
@@Donkeys_Adventure lmao the blind leading the blind
So was I, I said it was the impellor binding on the casing (which it did) and I then said does it still make that sound when full of water (which it wouldnt cos it would be back together and working) double boooyaaa
@Shed Life Do ewe like sheep 🐑 ?
Being a detective doesn't always mean there is something to detect 🤣
gr8 stuff Matt, didnt even know about these till now, I ride a poxy old korean bike, love the banter and when people dont understand when your avin a laugh and the little piss takes, oh they get so defensive for the other bloke.
Great Video MATT
My 5jj i bought from a mate has always had a strange noise and I’m wondering if this is the cause. Have you got a video of the noise this made? Cheers
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How much resistance should the whole assembly put together have when turning the oil pump sprocket? Should there be loose and tight spots in the rotation being it’s a pump?
If there's no oil in it, then it should turn freely. Tight spots means the pump is damaged.
@@dirtygarageguy okay. I’m turning it with coolant and oil still in the bike and the chain hooked up. But the clutch basket it off. And it has a bit of resistance. More than I feel it should k think I hear a squeak noise when it gets tight. The service manual doesn’t give you much here. Just tells you to turn it and if it turns smoothly then it’s okay.
Hah. I'll be damned. That's a simple assembly. I wasn't expecting Yamaha to use a stamped steel impeller since everything else on the bike is so damn fancy. Then again, I've always been a fan of straight-vane impellers.
Very interesting, thanks for that, nice to learn stuff I never even gave a thought 👍
Sooo were those scratches only cause by spinning it manually or is there some play in the system somehow..?
Interesting stuff.
How does that mechanical-type seal compare to a more traditional lip seal? Is there any reason Yamaha would go for one over the other? You mentioned how reliable it is, but wouldn't the longevity of one of those PTFE coated lip seals be similar?
Is this a recall? why is yamaha selling a bike that would fail like that i just picked up a 05 and the guy told me the bike kbb for 4500 an that their was nothing wrong with it we made the deal i got it put in my name an got a plate an tag for it an last night i opened the oil fill cap and the clutch side is full of snot i mean bad worst than ive ever seen im a wreck right now and dont know what to do
So while the assembly isn’t tight together then it can move side to side
So it's a soft hard material.
....no, not soft....HAAAARD
Thank god for (some) 2 strokes, we can get rid of the Yamaha Oil Pump & run fully premixed lol
@Shed Life Yes sir! I'm only 22, I prefer old 2 stroke rust buckets because of how easy they are to fix & keep running.
We know for sure that Mr Stupid Fast would have just taken to the chocolate starfish with a grinder !
And then started that it's adding horse power ! ;)
wait a minute... so by taking the sprocket out and releasing the pressure of the seal, that means collant went to the oil pump? (i will never get one of this guess the issue videos right)
No lol
@@dirtygarageguy so what is that mechanical seal sealing? im confused..
Right, you drain the coolant and oil before taking this thing apart, and thats what Andy did
Some other channel would have identified that as a a Supercharger
So if I've got this right, when you are putting your shaft in the hole you need it to be super, super slippy.
Seems like such a crazy design putting coolant and oil so close together 😂
It happens in the cylinder head, and the oil/water pump
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Send it to Delboy for servicing ;)
I was so near, yet so far.
Can we have more guessing games please..
Good 👍👍
I was grinding my parts once.
Damn, those latest videos are just giberish to me.....got no clue whats happnin....just metal motor parts and hands on yellow board....
Still watching em all
cool, i like ghosts! cheers.
3 ⭐️ slippy 🧐 been a while, personally. 🤣😂
Well I got it wrong again 🤪 not the first time though... 😉
Same as 5jj?
You're not going to pull that seal out by hand 🤣
Lol you can on the NTV 🤣🤣🤣
That's a turbo mate not an oil pump.
Woah!
Looks like a turbo charged oil pump
Turn it into a little supercharger!
🤔 mmmm good one 👍
Shit I made a comment on part 1 before I saw this☹️
You mean it's not kaput? Good job I don't charge for my pearls...
Blimey, I was nearly right
Hmmmm
Thats a waterpump
Well done
nice clickbait preview image
Click bait?
.. ya for people who saw oil pump in title but water pump in the picture.. thats clickbait for angry know it all internet types, gotta come in see what the hell is going on
So there was nothing wrong 😂.