GRANDMASTER One Trick REALIZES How Much He Doesn't Know [Challenger Coaching Top Camille]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Neace gets the rare opportunity to coach a high elo player transitioning from his main, kled, into something more viable in the long run.
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This is the type of content I would like to see more of. I want to see good players being coached when they are in a losing lane or a tough matchup.
Ayy same, it really shows the decision making a lot clearer imho, it's not just shitty mechanical mistakes, it shows the game a lot clearer. THANKS NEACE
I like how he avoid getting hit by volibear's ult by using camille's ult.
Oh wow editor showed the E when he said he started E. That's awesome.
22:01 nautilus Q hitbox work just fine 👍
Nautilus sucks to play against lol thresh for noobies
That lee/camel engage reminds me of the emperor’s new groove “come on men nobody lives forever” lol
This is grandmaster? I don't see silver lee sin's do that shit.
@@lostandfound6501 The client was a GM player but on a plat account. it was a plat 1 elo game
@@Draehir I know bronzies lee sins that won't jump in and suicide into 5 people like that. . Those are the fakest plats i've seen. riot matchmaking system is more rigged lpl's matchmaking scandal. How come riot never gets punished for EOMM and rigging your games?
@@lostandfound6501 Elo in NA servers are pointless below D1 honestly. Ive played from bronze to plat and honestly the skill level doesn't increase by much. I've seen smurfs in silver that go 20/1 and Ive had plat teammates who must of sucked someone off at Riot because there's no way that human being climbed by themselves. It makes climbing so much harder because every game is literally a crapshoot.
@@jairoparra8798 Not true, very noticeable difference between low silver, low gold, low plat. I've been climbing through it lately. I hate it when people say shit like this that just isn't true. Put a gold 4 player into a silver 4 game 80% of the time they get fed and carry. Put a plat 4 player into a gold 4 game it's same thing, maybe 60-70% instead because low silvers really don't play well from behind and golds are a bit better at that. People play a lot different within the tiers you're just talking out your ass.
Definitely love this content elo where it seems much more fast paced
"Seems" its like ledgit obvious. People know what to do.
below people cant even play nor know the basics of the game.
@@timboslice162 and you can't write English.
@@BoudewijnfromHolland I'm very certain I can write better English than most not natives. I wrote a comment below a game as if I was speaking. Feel free to say something back tho, because you're in the need... Probably got hurt? 😂
@@teeeehz9888 He replied to someone named Timbo slice, yet you replied like he was talking to you..
Literally WTF...
@@gigos2 bc both are my profiles, don't know why mobile switched. If you had a brain u would have made it yourself 😊
Ooooh showing us items, and why they are good, as they are mentioned :D That's some fancy editing. Me like! :D
His tp was down for the one he was thinking about
yup! lol
This is due to him using TP top lane instead of down.
@@Xaminn he mistaken the moment
11:08
Top just play safe: Top
thats my life in midlane, and then the sup says i should just play safe when im dying on my t2 tower cause 4 people are in my lane :D ... mby i should stay in base :D
Really need more Videos of plat+ players getting coached.
These silver iron mechanics weirdos and Lack of basics or infalted Egos get kinda old tbh
Nice vid
Naw, the other vids are super important, because it's the type of mistakes most players make. Most players are bad, and need to learn these tips. Including most of Neace's viewers. You may not have trouble controlling your camera, or whatever, but he also teaches many important macro concepts that all low elo players make. These vids of master+ players are not as applicable to the average person.
bro knows runes better than I know math.
You should study more runes are very easy to know so I guess your bad at studying 😂👍
I guess your bad at math.
@@planetruths1373 The two of you are bad at English
@@danielzhang9442 hey watch out you might end up starting a forest fire with that sick burn
I Thought it said Meth 🤦♂️
i literally seached "fiddlesticks coach" and this came up lmao
Tip: use f keys to know where noc ulted. The Q shadow trail is visible through his ult darkness.
not always only if he casts it before he makes contact with is ult
@@kovudrake9817 quite sure u can always find it lol i always skim the Map with mouse to find the tracę
this was an actual gm player that went back to plat 1 with average mmr?
He seems gold at best it’s kinda hard to watch
@@hehexd6513 i have not seen someone in plat or gold use tp at all
@@simedinson984 there's no way a gold player could tp before no ult goes off, unless that's the only thing he practices. In which case he's shit at the game.
@@puppetmaster8514 yea exactly i dont belive he is gold especialy not on NA i was watching a NA streamer today with diamond 1s and they where inting all of them macro wise
@@simedinson984 na d1 is shit, worse than eune
oh thats one hell of a teleport he pulled there wp
Tunes are banging in this one
how do you get timers on the camps?
Its automatically ip there
I think Its Blitz doing the job (its Like op.gg app).
Blitz app
Hack
ow thx
How does he get the jungle timers on the minimap?
Blitz.gg
is that an addon that shows camp timers on your map?
21:03 Why is this TP so good?
What's the reason behind it?
Nocturne ulti, he had to decide to tp instantly or he wouldn't be able to join the fight.
He managed to react to noct ult right before he looses complete vision on minions
@@Zeeembaa I am sure he tped to ward. Also the tp was good because it was just in time.. if only evelyn landed her R and re-engaged..
@@Defi4nc3s1 u still lose vision when noct ults, so if u dont tp in time u cant tp at all... and if eve could have ulted they would have won the fight, thats why the tp was good... u cant know that eve is not going to R in time... sometimes u need to have "balls" :D
League of Nocturn.
i lol'd @4:32
What's the program to show exact timers on camps?
i swear neace's peak is gm while solo queueing
I think Neasce got out of his experience zone for this coaching, idk why the GM paid for the coaching. but I think he is stuck in plat 1 now so maybe that's why..
Chal on lan
is this like the only video that has kled in your channel?
He's not grandmaster, the champs he plays on both accs are completely different and he is a really low rank on one acc and dia above the other
how does he have time tickers for jungle?
Nice tp @21:00
that map is huge
This is sad to watch for me, I mean everything is fine... lots of great information, tips, and how-to on this video.... but still, he is Grandmaster and playing with a locked screen.
so does yasuo and he is chalenger ... so ... whats ur point?
@@anadonner4685 NEACE has talked about it before, but the short version of it is people who can excel while using it are the exception, and most players will grow better with unlocked cam.
@@Kalriostraz mby that is true im not saying that... i was just a fact that yassuo also plays with his cam locked and as far i know he is challenger ... so im sure that unlocking ur cam does not make u challenger... :D
@@anadonner4685 wtf no ones said it makes you challenger. it is better to play without locked screen. pointing out that someones is challenger with it does not invalidate that point.
Kled/has players can do it
2:55 client farted?
My 1st thought was soul mario
What is the song at 3:14?
Why do you use a pink for a deep warding instead of a stealth ward?
Lasts forever in a hard to discover spot
@@nighter62 why not use blue trinket?
@@Epicsavant2 i think adc are the ones who get blue trinkets... and u cant get blue trinket at the start of the game... so pink is better
3 bad teammates. That's all you need to really know about this game.
Damn this guy has a huge map
makes playing with a locked camera not as bad
how is he showing cooldown timers?
This dude plays lock screen with the world's largest mini map? Like, all the time?
100 minimap scale is actually good. I play with it and it doesn't really obstruct your vision in big fights at all. Plus the guy's playing on lock screen a lot so having the minimap bigger can remind him to look into it more .
When I played on the original minimap size I felt that I wasn't looking at the minimap as much, so I maxed it out so everytime I'm afk csing I would be reminded to look at the map for info.
@@kinganonymous2672 You can train yourself to look at a small map, and the information should be legible at that scale. Playing at 100 scale is just failing to optimize your settings due to laziness.
@@adamdecoder1 Why though? Sadly, my eyes get tired easily specially in League where you have to move your eyes around all the time and I'll take every step to make it easier for my eyes. It's not like it's gonna block any information from being in the bottom right corner of the screen right? I haven't had any issues with the big minimap blocking anything so why would I make it harder for myself and make it smaller?
@@adamdecoder1 No, many pro recommend increasing it, easier to read quickly and you dont miss anything. nice try putting someone down though. do what you like.
His hud is so big lol
This client talks like Forest Gump xD
27:14 who is backing?
TP into death 🤣
You recommended Camille should not contest the wave early, you were wrong.
Remember she can hook shot, she has ignite, and she has teleport.
Camille should 100% contest the early push.
Did she have grasp? if she had grasp you were 100% wrong.
What is Camille gonna do when Volibear all-ins? hook shot and ignite with the push.
It's a volibear, idgaf. he can't prevent a max range hook shot escape.
wait out the q, and then cast e as it is going off.
and then say "cool dude".
lock screen
is this grandmaster lock screen?
whats neace's opgg?
He has way too many accounts to have an op.gg
@@LeagueofLegendsCoaching thats the easy way of saying neace only peaked d2 this season and hasnt been challenger so the video titles are clickbait
@@ipdunkeycolbymonster lol
he is just dia 4
He doesn’t have mouse showing ? Lol
Its a discord thing, it doesn't show where the mouse is so it doesn't confuse if u move it around. Yet in this scenario is yes - kinda dumb.
Why was he w-ing so little he almost never uses it can someone explain
it drains mana and early its a big issue for camille
Mana Issues, she runs Grasp = no Presence of Mind.
Also so its a counter match up, where Camile is forced to be pushed. So he let Volibear push lane freely in attempt to make it gankable lane & freeze.
i can’t judge this guy cuz im silver and he is grandmaster, but tksing bone plating against voli is the most bronze thing
It's not as bad as it sounds. It still blocks the auto attack (reduces) so ur only getting hit with the AP part. Not the best, but it's definitely not that bad. I'm also Grand Master.
imagine being silver and calling something bronze as if theres any difference lmao. being silver literally means you cant beat enough bronze players to get to gold idiot
Dude is playing with huge HUD and mini map, his cam is locked, and Neace didn’t say anything lol. But he masters so it’s all good I guess 😂
Holding space bar isn't playing with cam lock. He also has timers, but he isn't being overwhelmed by crap like you bronze and irons.
lol people saying he's boosted for losing in plat are funny, it's not like P1 is dogshit elo it's literally top 2%
Lets gooo
man i hate voli such an annoying match up to play against
I would of taken double mr and bought bramble first item and laning would be a breeze.
not gm nice clickbait
GM vods > iron pepe vods
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man, screw volibear. corny ass champ. feels like you're laning against heaping sack of stinky bear shit. And you can't do anything about it. Unless you have a bunch of dashes it seems. idk, it's just not fun to play against. Like Urgot. feels the same way.
How is this guy Grandmaster lol
Kled teaches you a lot of bad habits in lane and is a really bad champion to OTP as your first champ imo.
macro ig
I mean with kled you play mechanically well and then you steamroll people and you can go for questionable plays because the champ is so hard to shut down in uncoordinated skirmishes.
Like you can 1 vs 3 or even 1 vs 4 if you're reasonably fed no big problem. Your burst and stick potential are super powerful and you can kite reasonably well with E and Q slow. + The sustain with conq, triumph, goredrinker, steraks, stoneplate and remount is insane. You'll often tank up to 7-8k dmg per fight, especially if you can drag the fight for a bit.
Sure he does need macro too but he doesn't need it as hard as some other toplaners that just fall off or get kited.
@@Jistarii yeah but low Elo it's so godamn easy to solo carry the monkeys. High Elo if a grate gives up it's game
@@Jistarii agreed. I playing with friends who are ranging, me at the lowest, a plat at the highest. Everyone else is somewhere in between. I consistently perform about the 3rd or even 2nd best in our clash team, despite being bronze 4 with mostly silver, sometimes a gold, and a plat. Sometimes I do worse as a part of our team overall if a lot of people pop off, but generally I’m not the issue at all. And yet I go into ranked and I can’t climb because what do I do when my botlane goes 0-10 by ten minutes? I simply never get myself that fed to compensate. I very rarely carry, but I play above average, but despite that I can’t climb because the games just decided by who happens to completely destroy the game, which I’m not good at doing. I can go 2-0 in lane, but it doesn’t matter if their Samira is 10-0 there’s nothing I can really do.
Why does he play like gold
Cos he's plat.
@@jameshuang2677 why listed as gm one trick then
But he dosnt play like gold wtf.
Grandmaster? Looks like he's plat with a 40% winrate when I looked.
Neace literally shows this guys main account in the video.
2:49 if you lazy
hes plat not grandmaster
I literally showed his op.gg
@@LeagueofLegendsCoaching fake
@@htimS512 🤣
@@LeagueofLegendsCoaching i feel like anyone whos looked at his stats even on his "main" could assume that hes boosted if not faking his real rank just because no one in grandmaster even if he was a kled one trick would struggle in plat 1. that mmr just doesnt even come close to gm.
Plat is a smurf and ofc he can struggle in plat 1 cos he's a one trick. I've seen other gm one tricks beaten by gold/plats when they go offrole/champ.
This looks like my bronze/silver game wtf is this shit? bot lee sin?
Only similarity is that it's on the same map
So if i gonna start playing kled i gonna be GM?
you have to be good too.
its not that kled is sleeper op the client knows how to play him
Doest seemg tbh. He takes risky plays in a bad mu. Has not the best cooldown management and its not like he is first timing camille. He has good map awareness though and i guess the mu really is hard. Also Im confused that he didnt start w lvl1. The wavemanagement was ok even though voli coulda just let it bounce back and snack him. Besides that i think he didnt review his mechanical errors properly enough or maybe he has already figured out.
@@boxacuva he started e for the invade
Can't watch with this kinda of music....
Dude Neace... You're a good player, great coach, and seem like a nice enough guy.
But man, you gotta tone it down on being so condescending IMO
Everytime your student talks you either talk over them or automatically play devil's advocate towards their most recent statement.
Even when what they say is correct or knowledgeable...
It seems to frustrate people and I'd bet money that it stops people from returning for more coaching.
Sometimes you even invent issues about pings and wards and shot down like all his suggestions even when they're good.
Like when you told him to not go Dragon but his eve smoked nocturne and then they got prio on the dragon pit.
Cool, since you know so much more, why don't you start being a coach, people will love your handholding style.
Why should anything a client says matter. They're paying to be instructed. I personally think clients shouldn't talk at all, they should just be told what to do so they have a perfect VOD review for the money they spent instead of just just hearing all the times they are "shot down like all his suggestions even when they're good"
If they're suggestions were good, they wouldn't have to pay for coaching.
Neace makes mistakes too buddy. Get your Head out his ass. This guy and neace are nearly the same elo.
Neace himself gets coaching from other people. Being challenger doesn’t mean you know everything. The client made some good suggestions and neace needs to acknowledge it since this guy is currently ranked higher than him
Neace doesnt get paid to be nice to people. Being nice n holding his hand isnt gonna get him better. Neace tells him when he is right too so i dont get how he is being hard on him. Gotta grow a pair bud.
@@itzaculous1179 everybody learns different, there are people who need a kick in the ass, and there are people who don´t like/need that, they need a different typ of a coach... cause they dont learn if people are just talking over them and dont tell them why they should do or not do something... i dont like when people just tell me " do that, do this"... i need to know why, so i can learn when i should do what... u dont allways have a coach telling u what to do.. so IMO it better to explain why u should do that, and when... and not just tell " do it"... but, mby he talks to his clients and sees how they will learn the best, cause there are vidios where he talks to the people and tells them when and why they should do what...
this guy is negative wr plat.. hes lying there is no way hes masters or gm
his op.gg is literally in the video at 2:49, he's playing on a smurf so that he can learn new champs without affecting his main account elo
@@luisdunfordgavira He is averaging 10 deaths in plat on camille, even on his most recent kled game he went 1/12 on his "smurf" this guy is not who he says he is. he is inting his face off in ranked, and you can tell by his lack of cs or summoner ability use how incompetent he is compared to GMS. hes lying to neace so he thinks he can get "better coaching" but in reality he only hurt himself
@@ipdunkeycolbymonster na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Shaunder you'll notice the stats on this account for camille are the same (he's averaging 12 deaths). He's played 1 champ and got to GM with it. Also you cherry picked a game where he went 1/12 with kled, you failed to notice he was against Camille, Kled's counter (go to u.gg to see that stats for that)also in the game before that he went 8/6/13 on Kled. You go to his average stats on the alt account and you'll see he has a 57% winrate with Kled on it. Just because you don't believe he's at that rank based on looking at 1 game where he was in a difficult matchup, doesn't mean that he actually isn't.
You bring up his “1/12” game but ignore his “17/4” game where he carried his team in GRANDMASTER . Tell me when’s the last time you carried your team in GM? When’s the last time you had 17 kills in GM? Never, because you’ll never get there. Only one whose lying is you buddy. Numbers don’t lie. He’s GM with a positive win rate
@@luisdunfordgavira yes because that's not him! No GM player has a 40% winrate in plat, just watch his game play he makes very basic mistakes he just lied to neace to get better coaching, I'm glad you agree with me