I've pre-ordered 2 small EVs. The FUV and the Aptera. It's a race to see who can deliver a vehicle first. There's pros and cons to both. I think of the FUV as a better motorcycle. The Aptera stands alone because it doesn't need charging! 600 mile range, all wheel drive, full solar for 38K? This might be the only real competition for Tesla if Aptera can boost production quickly. Time will tell. Great video thanks.
If they’re successful, I’d seriously consider it. A super efficient EV with decent cargo space? It won’t be a family hauler for certain, but I’m far from that with where I am in life. Plus, if the Tesla charge port in their teasers actually indicates supercharger capacity, that would just be another plus. Also a $25,000 starting price is REALLY attractive for an EV. Overall, I sincerely hope that they succeed in this attempt!
Will be in our driveway, soaking up sunshine as our weekend and long trip car. Daily commuter will be a cybertruck. Both can be backup power producers with Autobidder. I'm sold on the Aptera...just waiting for the budget to allow it.
I have been following this car as long as you have. I feel it legit from listening to the question and answer videos and they are working with Munro and Associates.
I really hope they can do it, because I think the concept is brilliant and the car is beautiful. The big challenge is going to be funding, and of course dealing with all the problems of creating something so new and different.
I so am ready for an electric vehicle that is functional AND something the common average person could actually purchase. Anything above $45,000 really is outside the purchase price of the majority of US households (regardless if it is petroleum or electricly powered). But this vehicle can be seriously considered and serve well as a 2nd car (which most households have). And for people who do not need to carry more than one other person on occasion this works perfectly.
I believe the Aptera is really going to happen. Expect consistant, cautious, calculated growth. Any success of this vehicle will ultimately pull the industry in the right direction. Many of the bars have been just been raised way above the rest of the field. It's real, and it can be done. Myself? I'm anxiously waiting for one.
I think it's legit and cool! It will definitely fill the bill for the person who lives in an apartment with no garage and no place to charge. The design screams efficiency and that I care about the planet. I wonder how it will do in a car wash? 🚿☂️
Actually this is a much more conservative start up than Tesla or Space X, almost as innovative, but the vision is as clear. I spoke with people on the U of Michigan solar car team a few years ago and they did not think we would see a practical solar car any time soon, if ever. This is one challenge that even Elon gave up on. So go Aptera!
My job is 45 km away, each month I spend around 357 usd on fuel (I live in Sweden) If I had the money for it, I would order it sooner than finishing this comment.
The timing and tech weren't there during their first try but times have changed (and tech has improved.) I'm excited to see them back and better than ever. Maybe a bigger company will buy them and (A.) they make lots and lots of them or (B.) promise the world only to scrap the whole project.
I fear though that the dimensions (172 in (~4,37 m) long and 88 in (~2,24 m) wide) could be very tricky if not make it impossible to park in city parking slots (haven't checked for other countries than mine, as I work for a metropolis in France and thus sometimes have to add or remove parking slots in various projects, but here it's 5 m by 2 m, or 3,3 m if it's for disabled persons)... not to mention driving in narrow lines/paths :/
There are already orders from Europe and they are working with an EU homologaton expert. They have not run into any show stoppers yet, but it remains to be seen.
This will be my driveway. We’ll sell our red 2018 Model 3 and will be getting Cybertruck and Aptera. Question now is, which will get here first? It’s going to be close!
Yes, my Leaf is only 5 years and a healthy 12-bar battery pack, but at 112k miles. Still, it does everything like new. I too am leaning towards Aptera as a commuter for my 60-mile roundtrip.
I had 2 orders in 2008... and the license plate APTERA ... I did invest in the crowd funding... in 2019..... and I have 6 orders now - for kids and grandkids... and myself. This is the car to tour the USA... as a retiree (Miniature Poodle, Sleeping bags, tent, and cooler in the back) ... or to commute to college (grandkids). A family can tour the USA in 2 of them - adults enjoying their music, kids in the other (with a legal driver and different music) !
I ordered the 40kW/400mi, AWD, Solar PKG version and I am excited to see Aptera succeed. Hopefully I will get mine in early 2022. It looks like a compelling commuter that is both very quick and very efficient.
@@markplott4820 I am looking forward to seeing that model built. But it may take a while to get them in the U.S. Plus most likely it will not get 10mi/kW, get to 60 MPH in 3.5 sec, and go 40mi per day on solar power alone.
@@deanmcmanis9398 - model 2 uses LFP battery , can DC FAST charge and go from 0 - 90% in shorter time, batteries are Heavier however but LFP really cheap to make and have 300+ mile range.
@@markplott4820 Much is still unknown about the future “Model 2”, but it looks like it will be a great fit for the Asian and European markets when it does come out. Personally, I do not use public charging, so I am not concerned about faster public charging. I do however like the idea that my car can recharge itself just sitting in the driveway or a parking lot. The Aptera promises efficiency and performance that will not be matched for a long time to come, at this price point.
I ordered the first Aptera then, now I have a Hyundai Sonata plug in Hybrid. During the summer I got 4000mi and topped off 10.4gal and have a life time warranty on the batteries. The Aptera looks cool but owning one would be like owning a Corvette, not very practical for me. I would like to test drive my dream car Aptera. But hope to see it on the road someday for everyone else.
Well here it is (7/14/21) and Aptera has over 11K reservations. The website is due to be updated and monthly updates and webinars are keeping us informed to the current version of the car. Go to Aptera.com and click NEWS for all the information.
I actually want one. I currently have a model y. So right now I have a Tesla and I’m spending about $6 a day in charging, which is $9+ per day saving which is $45 per week and $180 per month compared to my previous vehicle. Imagine how much more I can save
I put a lot more into a Tango 20 years ago, got squat. Now I have a ‘13 Prius plug-in, full charge is ~12 miles. I like it, but it won’t last forever. This looks like the next act for me.
All the reports show the tests were good on the highway they did some cornering tests and I was wondering how stable it would be but they said it was better than expected it might end up turning out to be a good commuter car for people to drive far to get to work but I think we charge up pretty quick because of how efficient it is. Couldn’t seeing needing more than the 250 mile range on something like that
It is absolutely essential to have low cost options available & this looks viable. I'm wanting someone to do a low cost small pickup around the same price as this buggy.
@@IBMara Yes, there is a pickup in the production plan. it will come after a 5 passenger sedan, so a while off yet. The present Aptera can carry 300 lbs in addition to the driver.
I think it's a well thought out vehicle. In Ohio it would be licensed as a motorcycle. I know because I have built and licensed a highway legal three wheeler here. Some comment that it needs 4 wheels or 4 seats or a bigger trunk etc... Until you build one yourself, you will never understand that any vehicle is a compromise of size, weight, shape, air drag, power, range, practicality, and efficiency. Increase one of those and the rest of them change too, usually for the worse. I am very skeptical that this car will make it to production, as beautifully planned as it is. It takes a huge amount of capital to start an auto company. The news is full of company's that make big media splashes and offer buy-ins to waiting lists, then quietly vanish from sight. ELIO Motors anyone? A better chance of success would be to partner with some one like Tesla, or even offer the car in kit form that the owner can assemble their self. I will withhold my deposit, wait and see if they can against all odds, pull this off. If they do, I will buy one. Thanks for sharing this story.
You have to look at their history. The first time they tried, their startup incubator asked them to bring on a automotive industry CEO with production experience when they were ready to build. First he wanted changes to the design, and then decided he didn't want to build the production ready car. He got the board to force the founders out of the company, and bet the future on getting a loan for a completely new 4 wheel car that never came through, and then liquidated the company. After cofounding and leading a lithium battery startup through an IPO, Chris Anthony discovered that the rights were available and bought Aptera out of liquidation. He reassembled key members of the original team, including his co-founder and the original designer in 2019. They did a clean sheet of paper new design, and had a fully functional prototype on the road in San Diego last December. - This is a hugely better showing than Tesla's beginning. I don't think they will risk losing control again. Any comparisons with Elio are completely superficial, both as to the car, and the track record of the founders.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Thank you for that information Bruce. I hope they can pull this off, even as a niche market manufacturer. I am quite willing to buy one, when I see it happening.
@@tigerseye73 They just announced closing another A round of funding of $4 million today. They are certainly on track at the moment. Their projected production capacity is only 10,000 vehicles per year by the end of 2022, so lead times are going to be long for quite a while. Instead of expanding production further, they will probably start putting resources into their follow on vehicles, such as a 4 wheel, 5 passenger sedan. A big plus is that their tooling costs are far lower than what Tesla requires.
I suspect the 1000 mile version is for people who want to do a few hundred miles of driving all at once, then park it in the sun for a few days and have room to let it just keep collecting solar
Aptera is an evolution of the Fusion Human Powered Vehicle. Al Voight’s Versatron Vector was a single occupant Human Powered Vehicle that SHOULD ALSO BE brought to market as a $10K Solar-Electric car. Less is more!
With Munroe's chatting with them, i'd say they're legit with only a very small chance they aren't at this point. Pointing out the possibilities that they might be using Tesla stock parts is a big damn deal because OEM use of them is what would guarantee Tesla a consistent cash flow in supply, similar to ACDelco or other suppliers. It would long-term injure Aptera and make them "attached" to Tesla (similar to like a brand name for a company like GM) but it has been proven that Tesla's inverters are the most efficient on the market, and with the Aptera apparently using the skin of the vehicle as a radiator they need every percent. Have they released any more details on the motors or batteries yet? I THINK they're using hubs, but batteries are still an unknown.
Why do i want one? Sunday drives for free. It looks great. And if its the last car a baby boomer owns then it's at least one he can handover to his grandkid
I have a awd 600mi with full solar roof audio and camping gear on pre-order 😀. I also have the cybertruck and the model S plaid+ on pre-order. I have cash on hand ✋ 💰 🤑 thank you to TSLA that all in stake I made 29 months ago really paid off big time, it was a risky move but when I got my Model 3 i was sure and put 100k on the line and at the time the stock was 69.69$ so i just had to buy. I sold about 5% and paid off my house and all my stuff and got a lot of medical problems under control I hope Aptera is public soon i will invest i also had one on order and got a refund back in 2008 wish they call me, i have some tech that will give them a boost in solar output..
The current cells they use are about 22-23% efficient and they have IP around making them easy to replace in case of damage or technical improvement. If what you have is better than that and compatible with what they are doing now, they would probably like to know about it.
@@n.brucenelson5920 not so much better but a simple piggy back circuit with less the 4mohm of loss that lets a shaded cell be bypassed because as you must know a solar cell is just an open circuit when no light is present and just a diodes have a large voltage drop even good ones witch why i think placing a few small parts on each panel will help the system overall
@@ZoeyR86 I wouldn't be too surprised if they are doing this. You are quite right of course. You might want to send an email to info@aptera.us, or I could let them know on your behalf if you prefer. I have been sending them ideas on thermal management.
If i have the money i will sure buy one. I didnt knew that the width would be 88in (2.23mts) for easy to use on the city thats a mayor factor that would be resolved if the batteries sit more on the front (or even lower and longer wheelbase) for more stablility and narow the track. I supose they have their reasons for this
Yes. The primary reason is aerodynamic. It allows the body to move in cleaner air, and contributes to a more than 10% reduction in aerodynamic drag compared to having the wheel pods closer in.
Look at their timeline they put out last year. They are planning to eventually have a four seater and a truck like vehicle too. Will be interesting to see how they make that happen and keep it efficient.
I put down deposit for one, only time will tell if this will be legit, it would be great if it actually comes in in 2023. As I don't see deliveries this year
I think they are going with the 3 wheel design to avoid auto safety requirements. If you get in any kind of fender bender this thing looks like it would be about as safe as a motorcycle. Being wide i could see having a wheel sheared off pretty easily. I bought a model S in the first year of production and put 120,000 miles on it and traded it for a model 3 which we still own, I’m waiting for the pickup (deposit sent in the 2 day). This thing looks fun, an open top version might be fun.
No, this is not correct, although it will help with things like replacing mirrors with cameras. The three wheel design and the width of the front track was the only way to get the cd=0.13 as low as it is. With front and rear crumple zones, front and side air bags, and a very strong passenger safety cage, this will test among the safer cars when the crash test ratings are in, shortly before production begins.
You call it a weekend car. Why not call it a commuter car? And save your Tesla (or like car) for the family weekend trips. How about the 1,000 mile range? Ideal for advanturous young and fit retired couples. Also, range anxiety is a nonissue with such a range for just about any realistic travelling scenario. The only thing that remains is the purchase price. All EV's are realistically still way to expensive for anyone but the upper middle class or the principled and determined environmental fans. Note: I am curious about the safety rating for this car (front, side, rear impact).
@@CorwynGC That is a good thing ... if they can get the car into (mass) production. But even if, it remains to be a two seater. It is not a family car. And a minor detail, there seems to be no place for a front license plate. Which is fine for the American market but might be an issue for the rest of the world. And talking about America, why is everybody in the states so obsessed about ridiculously fast accelerations and unrealistic top speeds? What "performance" do you realistically need from an average family or commuter car? Even in Germany where there are no speed limits on certain stretches of the "autobahn".
@@wimahlers A minor detail, but you see fit to mention it, as if it was some sort of obstacle. No prototype car is shown with license plates, and yet all production cars somehow seem to end up with them. How extraordinary.
@@CorwynGC Except ... the Aptera currently shown has a rear license plate. But how do you attach a front license plate on the aerodynamically curved front without compromising the aerodynamics?
@@wimahlers And yet you seem to think this is a problem... What is it with people who think that somehow people are going to spend millions of dollars building a car, and forget simple things like license plates. The idea is either absurd or FUD. You have been moved into the FUD category IMO.
I am beginning to think it’s a scam❗️🧐 I placed an order. Their off of fully refundable? Nowhere on their site is there any way to cancel or request a refund. Their free car for 26 referrals that has no terms or conditions with it means if all the referrals cancel you would still get a free car! No lawyer would let that offer go out without terms and conditions. I emailed them they don’t respond. My next step is to contact the consumer protection administration and state attorney general. These guys bailed on investors once before.
Update , they did reply to my email and sent me a link to Google docs for the terms and conditions of their offer. Yes it is required that referrals must buy before you get the credit. I believe that the Aptera company intention is honest. However, after looking closely I requested and received a full refund. I would really like to own the Aptera but since that will take years before it actually available I decided to move on to look at other possibilities.
@@thejackdiamondart Thanks for your update! The car and the timing will not be ideal for everyone. I have been following them for some time, and was able to get an early preorder. I hope to have my car at the end of the year, and will be glad to show it in person to anyone in Northern California, and perhaps beyond who would like to see it in person.
It’s $100 deposit. I don’t know if I’ll get mine in a year or two years but $100 is nothing to keep my place in line. The people who have used my referral link might not buy until 2023. If I end up getting a second one free, my son would probably take it.
@@CyberOwners Best of luck. I did get a refund of my deposit. I believe they mean well but I lack confidence in the management planning to succeed. I invested that $100. in cryptocurrency and that has since doubled. At this rate, if they do succeed and are available in two or three years my investments will meet the cost.
It looks awesome. I'm in. Does anyone know about solar window Technologies? If it works, it would be perfect for at aptera. But it smells a little like Nikola to me.
I don't see why not tesla wouldn't just buy this company and let it run stand alone to ensure the success of this company and the synergistic benefit.... ip along would be worth it....
I think this is legit. I do wonder how they make a 1000 mile claim without proof. I will believe that when it actually accomplishes the feat, and actually for all of its battery variant models.
The 250 mile range car would be a great second car for a two car family. Charge 110 miles overnight with a normal household charger? Sold. If it's really $25K in the US before tax credits, I'll buy one. My only concern is whether the dog will fit in the back...
As a biased Paradigm+ pre-order holder.. "I don't see 1000 miles on this vehicle"... It's going to be the quietest vehicle on the road. And the most efficient road tripper on the market. Especially with SafetyPilot and 500mi/hr charge rate on level 3 charging. That equals.. Litterally the best road tripper in the world. Not to mention it's the most aerodynamic, so it's the best for road tripping. I don't understand your logic.
It’s probably not going to be quite as comfortable as my Cybertruck or Model 3. That’s my only reasoning. Plus if you have kids or big pets probably not the best for traveling.
@@CyberOwners It seats 2. Plus 2 pets. It's large enough to sleep 2 adults side by side with the pets. It's also going to cost you no joke 6 times less to drive across the country.. How is it not going to be comfortable for traveling?
@@Yelonek1986 what about it? Composites dampen sound better than metal. And the wheels are detached. The rear wheel is the only one you'll hear much from. And that's going to be fairly quiet due to the minimal material for sound to conduct through, as well as the low rolling resistance tires.
I think the design concept is fine; but if the best they can do with this "easy to construct" vehicle is 3 in a year, it would be fair to say; they don't seem to know how to make the rubber meet the road. Every day their chance to have some market share is sliding by.
They made three alpha vehicles to test initial design and learn from them. They are building a small fleet of beta vehicles now before production starts later next year. They’re hoping to build 5000 production vehicles for customers in 2022, though that will likely be lower due to the supply issues all manufacturers have faced.
@@CyberOwners Yes; tell me that after the next delay, the when they make their Delta variant, then the omicron.. It took them a year to build 3 Alphas, they just began building the Betas which aren't actually fully functional vehicles. When I see key people of the company screwing around making videos like they had nothing better to do; I have to conclude they value hype more than making the rubber meet the road and producing vehicles for customers.
I couldn't agree more so skeptical of legacy and empty promises and half butted attempts until I see 1 vehicle on the road its still a fail in my books
I like it a LOT. As soon as I saw it I wanted one. I showed my wife she said “order it”! That says a lot for the car. But as we live in Australia we didn’t actually order. That can only happen when they announce a right hand drive variant. Great video footage btw. Hadn’t seen some of it before now.
Tesla is the leader in range for anything in production and is most efficient as well. Aptera will crush both but only because of the shape. You simply can’t get any more aerodynamic than this. But you also won’t be able to take your kids or friends anywhere in it either.
@@CyberOwners The first Aptera vehicle is not intended to be a mass market car, just as the Tesla Roadster wasn't. In fact it is going to fill a similar role as for Aptera as the Roadster did for Tesla. The aerodynamic nature of the Aptera shape is by far the major contributor to the efficiency, but it is not the only one. The motors are also a small amount more efficient, and the rolling resistance is less. All of these factors multiply to achieve the end result. Couples and people who commute will be attracted to these cars, and find them far cheaper to operate than a Tesla. I hope this pushes Tesla into better customer service, quality control, and a saner right to repair policy. If it does, the entire industry will be improved.
The model 3 should be commended as a very safe car, but it is likely that Aptera will exceed the crash test performance in several categories, especially roof crush strength.
I've pre-ordered 2 small EVs. The FUV and the Aptera. It's a race to see who can deliver a vehicle first. There's pros and cons to both. I think of the FUV as a better motorcycle. The Aptera stands alone because it doesn't need charging! 600 mile range, all wheel drive, full solar for 38K? This might be the only real competition for Tesla if Aptera can boost production quickly. Time will tell. Great video thanks.
If they’re successful, I’d seriously consider it. A super efficient EV with decent cargo space? It won’t be a family hauler for certain, but I’m far from that with where I am in life. Plus, if the Tesla charge port in their teasers actually indicates supercharger capacity, that would just be another plus. Also a $25,000 starting price is REALLY attractive for an EV. Overall, I sincerely hope that they succeed in this attempt!
Wanted one when it was shown at 2007. So glad they are back.
Will be in our driveway, soaking up sunshine as our weekend and long trip car. Daily commuter will be a cybertruck. Both can be backup power producers with Autobidder. I'm sold on the Aptera...just waiting for the budget to allow it.
I have been following this car as long as you have. I feel it legit from listening to the question and answer videos and they are working with Munro and Associates.
I really hope they can do it, because I think the concept is brilliant and the car is beautiful. The big challenge is going to be funding, and of course dealing with all the problems of creating something so new and different.
Gorgeous solar powered car with sports car acceleration, AWD with 1,000 miles range for only $46K!! I'll take one in black please.
TESLA seats 5 comfortably and is SAFEST car you can buy, PERIOD.
@@markplott4820 The Aptera is built around Formula 1 technologies, how do you know that the Tesla is safer?
@@markplott4820 Good for Tesla. So what? Being Tesla investor, love them and their products, but Aptera serves different needs, which I also love.
Did you guys know that Aptera and Tesla are working with each other.
I so am ready for an electric vehicle that is functional AND something the common average person could actually purchase. Anything above $45,000 really is outside the purchase price of the majority of US households (regardless if it is petroleum or electricly powered). But this vehicle can be seriously considered and serve well as a 2nd car (which most households have). And for people who do not need to carry more than one other person on occasion this works perfectly.
Personally I think Aptera is perfect adventure vehicle with full solar, AWD, off-road and camping kit. Ready to invest on their next round.
I believe the Aptera is really going to happen. Expect consistant, cautious, calculated growth. Any success of this vehicle will ultimately pull the industry in the right direction. Many of the bars have been just been raised way above the rest of the field. It's real, and it can be done. Myself? I'm anxiously waiting for one.
Can’t wait to see this car out there and selling!
I think it's legit and cool!
It will definitely fill the bill for the person who lives in an apartment with no garage and no place to charge. The design screams efficiency and that I care about the planet. I wonder how it will do in a car wash? 🚿☂️
should be fine, even with full solar.
I placed a pre-order. This car looks so promissing
Actually this is a much more conservative start up than Tesla or Space X, almost as innovative, but the vision is as clear.
I spoke with people on the U of Michigan solar car team a few years ago and they did not think we would see a practical solar car any time soon, if ever. This is one challenge that even Elon gave up on. So go Aptera!
My job is 45 km away, each month I spend around 357 usd on fuel (I live in Sweden)
If I had the money for it, I would order it sooner than finishing this comment.
Like you said, I’ve been waiting for this kind of style since watching the Jetsons as a kid. I’m SO over the boxes of today.
The timing and tech weren't there during their first try but times have changed (and tech has improved.) I'm excited to see them back and better than ever. Maybe a bigger company will buy them and (A.) they make lots and lots of them or (B.) promise the world only to scrap the whole project.
hope they will be able to sell them in europe some day,would be a greath car for vacantion
I fear though that the dimensions (172 in (~4,37 m) long and 88 in (~2,24 m) wide) could be very tricky if not make it impossible to park in city parking slots (haven't checked for other countries than mine, as I work for a metropolis in France and thus sometimes have to add or remove parking slots in various projects, but here it's 5 m by 2 m, or 3,3 m if it's for disabled persons)... not to mention driving in narrow lines/paths :/
There are already orders from Europe and they are working with an EU homologaton expert. They have not run into any show stoppers yet, but it remains to be seen.
I read that same PopSci issue. Great video, thanks!
Loved the thumbnail. I wanna see Cybertrucks and Apteras on the road together.
This will be my driveway. We’ll sell our red 2018 Model 3 and will be getting Cybertruck and Aptera. Question now is, which will get here first? It’s going to be close!
I remember wanting an aptera a decade ago.
Got my order in and some more in the first crowdfunding round. When the price comes down to $20kish it will sell like hot cakes.
That you for your video. Also, don;t forget that their camping kit will sleep two people. Somebody should do a video of their camping kit. ;-D
Fitting as the APTERA is a 3 Wheel COFFIN.
@Paul Hurst - because 3 wheelers NO NOT have to be as safe as a 4 Wheel car.
a mini Cooper is safer than the APTERA.
The world NEEDS such cars so bad.
Great engineering needs to be efficient an this is what Aptera is!
this is a really good overall and specific info !!!
OMG! Subsribed cuz "Flight of the Navigator" reference.
It will replace my Nissan Leaf, once I wear the Leaf out (going on 10 years now).
Yes, my Leaf is only 5 years and a healthy 12-bar battery pack, but at 112k miles. Still, it does everything like new. I too am leaning towards Aptera as a commuter for my 60-mile roundtrip.
I had 2 orders in 2008... and the license plate APTERA ... I did invest in the crowd funding... in 2019..... and I have 6 orders now - for kids and grandkids... and myself. This is the car to tour the USA... as a retiree (Miniature Poodle, Sleeping bags, tent, and cooler in the back) ... or to commute to college (grandkids). A family can tour the USA in 2 of them - adults enjoying their music, kids in the other (with a legal driver and different music) !
I forgot to say, I have Reservations 178, 181, 182.... so first 3 should be this year!
Wow! You’re dedicated!
@@stevestevens9068 I am on the Aptera Ambassador team and have reservation # 42. I also have a small investment. I look forward to meeting you!
I wonder if I am the only one who sees a three-wheeled vehicle and immediately thinks, "The Dale!"
You could see a new model of four wheel car and think "An Edsel" . It all depends on your mindset.
I ordered the 40kW/400mi, AWD, Solar PKG version and I am excited to see Aptera succeed. Hopefully I will get mine in early 2022. It looks like a compelling commuter that is both very quick and very efficient.
you do know the MODEL 2 will be Produced in 2022 in CHINA, and it will seat 4 Adults. $23,000.
@@markplott4820 I am looking forward to seeing that model built. But it may take a while to get them in the U.S. Plus most likely it will not get 10mi/kW, get to 60 MPH in 3.5 sec, and go 40mi per day on solar power alone.
@@deanmcmanis9398 - model 2 uses LFP battery , can DC FAST charge and go from 0 - 90% in shorter time, batteries are Heavier however but LFP really cheap to make and have 300+ mile range.
@@markplott4820 Much is still unknown about the future “Model 2”, but it looks like it will be a great fit for the Asian and European markets when it does come out. Personally, I do not use public charging, so I am not concerned about faster public charging. I do however like the idea that my car can recharge itself just sitting in the driveway or a parking lot. The Aptera promises efficiency and performance that will not be matched for a long time to come, at this price point.
I ordered the first Aptera then, now I have a Hyundai Sonata plug in Hybrid. During the summer I got 4000mi and topped off 10.4gal and have a life time warranty on the batteries. The Aptera looks cool but owning one would be like owning a Corvette, not very practical for me. I would like to test drive my dream car Aptera. But hope to see it on the road someday for everyone else.
Well here it is (7/14/21) and Aptera has over 11K reservations. The website is due to be updated and monthly updates and webinars are keeping us informed to the current version of the car. Go to Aptera.com and click NEWS for all the information.
I actually want one. I currently have a model y. So right now I have a Tesla and I’m spending about $6 a day in charging, which is $9+ per day saving which is $45 per week and $180 per month compared to my previous vehicle. Imagine how much more I can save
Would love to have one 🙂
I put a lot more into a Tango 20 years ago, got squat. Now I have a ‘13 Prius plug-in, full charge is ~12 miles. I like it, but it won’t last forever. This looks like the next act for me.
I placed I my deposit on the first day they were available to order. I just hope my deposit doesn’t disappear like it did with my Elio.
I too got suckered by elio.
But also put a deposit on Aptera!
yea Elio screwed me too good thing i only invested a $100
All the reports show the tests were good on the highway they did some cornering tests and I was wondering how stable it would be but they said it was better than expected it might end up turning out to be a good commuter car for people to drive far to get to work but I think we charge up pretty quick because of how efficient it is. Couldn’t seeing needing more than the 250 mile range on something like that
They’re now working with Roush to improve the suspension even more
I bought into Elio for $1000. Lost it. Will I buy into Aptera hell yes, why not. = done.
It is absolutely essential to have low cost options available & this looks viable. I'm wanting someone to do a low cost small pickup around the same price as this buggy.
There is actually a pickup truck available for less, but I believe it's only a neighborhood electric vehicle in the USA, and it's made in PR China.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis we need American, & more versatile then the Chinese model seems.
I saw a video somewhere on the web of the two owners. They mentioned a pickup in the future.
@@IBMara Yes, there is a pickup in the production plan. it will come after a 5 passenger sedan, so a while off yet. The present Aptera can carry 300 lbs in addition to the driver.
I think it's a well thought out vehicle. In Ohio it would be licensed as a motorcycle. I know because I have built and licensed a highway legal three wheeler here. Some comment that it needs 4 wheels or 4 seats or a bigger trunk etc... Until you build one yourself, you will never understand that any vehicle is a compromise of size, weight, shape, air drag, power, range, practicality, and efficiency. Increase one of those and the rest of them change too, usually for the worse.
I am very skeptical that this car will make it to production, as beautifully planned as it is. It takes a huge amount of capital to start an auto company. The news is full of company's that make big media splashes and offer buy-ins to waiting lists, then quietly vanish from sight. ELIO Motors anyone? A better chance of success would be to partner with some one like Tesla, or even offer the car in kit form that the owner can assemble their self. I will withhold my deposit, wait and see if they can against all odds, pull this off. If they do, I will buy one. Thanks for sharing this story.
You have to look at their history. The first time they tried, their startup incubator asked them to bring on a automotive industry CEO with production experience when they were ready to build. First he wanted changes to the design, and then decided he didn't want to build the production ready car. He got the board to force the founders out of the company, and bet the future on getting a loan for a completely new 4 wheel car that never came through, and then liquidated the company.
After cofounding and leading a lithium battery startup through an IPO, Chris Anthony discovered that the rights were available and bought Aptera out of liquidation. He reassembled key members of the original team, including his co-founder and the original designer in 2019. They did a clean sheet of paper new design, and had a fully functional prototype on the road in San Diego last December. - This is a hugely better showing than Tesla's beginning.
I don't think they will risk losing control again. Any comparisons with Elio are completely superficial, both as to the car, and the track record of the founders.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Thank you for that information Bruce. I hope they can pull this off, even as a niche market manufacturer. I am quite willing to buy one, when I see it happening.
@@tigerseye73 They just announced closing another A round of funding of $4 million today. They are certainly on track at the moment. Their projected production capacity is only 10,000 vehicles per year by the end of 2022, so lead times are going to be long for quite a while. Instead of expanding production further, they will probably start putting resources into their follow on vehicles, such as a 4 wheel, 5 passenger sedan.
A big plus is that their tooling costs are far lower than what Tesla requires.
I suspect the 1000 mile version is for people who want to do a few hundred miles of driving all at once, then park it in the sun for a few days and have room to let it just keep collecting solar
It would be good for couriers and lawyers.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Or retired people visiting grand kids.
Aptera is an evolution of the Fusion Human Powered Vehicle. Al Voight’s Versatron Vector was a single occupant Human Powered Vehicle that SHOULD ALSO BE brought to market as a $10K Solar-Electric car. Less is more!
If you refer enough people you get a free Aptera.
With Munroe's chatting with them, i'd say they're legit with only a very small chance they aren't at this point.
Pointing out the possibilities that they might be using Tesla stock parts is a big damn deal because OEM use of them is what would guarantee Tesla a consistent cash flow in supply, similar to ACDelco or other suppliers. It would long-term injure Aptera and make them "attached" to Tesla (similar to like a brand name for a company like GM) but it has been proven that Tesla's inverters are the most efficient on the market, and with the Aptera apparently using the skin of the vehicle as a radiator they need every percent.
Have they released any more details on the motors or batteries yet? I THINK they're using hubs, but batteries are still an unknown.
Yes on hub motors and they only said they were sourcing 2170 cells from an established supplier
Three Wishes on a Great concept! 1. Three seater! 2. more dropform for a bigger Frunk and Trunk! 3 One In my parking lot!
I want
Why do i want one? Sunday drives for free. It looks great. And if its the last car a baby boomer owns then it's at least one he can handover to his grandkid
I'd like to see it run in the snow.
I put my deposit down in Dec, 2020.
I have a awd 600mi with full solar roof audio and camping gear on pre-order 😀. I also have the cybertruck and the model S plaid+ on pre-order. I have cash on hand ✋ 💰 🤑 thank you to TSLA that all in stake I made 29 months ago really paid off big time, it was a risky move but when I got my Model 3 i was sure and put 100k on the line and at the time the stock was 69.69$ so i just had to buy. I sold about 5% and paid off my house and all my stuff and got a lot of medical problems under control I hope Aptera is public soon i will invest i also had one on order and got a refund back in 2008 wish they call me, i have some tech that will give them a boost in solar output..
The current cells they use are about 22-23% efficient and they have IP around making them easy to replace in case of damage or technical improvement. If what you have is better than that and compatible with what they are doing now, they would probably like to know about it.
@@n.brucenelson5920 not so much better but a simple piggy back circuit with less the 4mohm of loss that lets a shaded cell be bypassed because as you must know a solar cell is just an open circuit when no light is present and just a diodes have a large voltage drop even good ones witch why i think placing a few small parts on each panel will help the system overall
@@ZoeyR86 I wouldn't be too surprised if they are doing this. You are quite right of course. You might want to send an email to info@aptera.us, or I could let them know on your behalf if you prefer. I have been sending them ideas on thermal management.
Beyond cool. Aside from straight-line performance, it needs to corner and stop well too. I really hope they pull this off.
Stopping will be fantastic, with state of the art ABS. Cornering will become clear once we see skid pad results from the development vehicles.
What he doesn't tell you is that if 26 of you use his link he'll get a free one.
Pretty sure most people know that
Make a 4 /5 seat, 4 wheels model and you're looking at serious $
It is coming next!
1 or 2 extra child seat would make all the difference !!
If i have the money i will sure buy one.
I didnt knew that the width would be 88in (2.23mts) for easy to use on the city thats a mayor factor that would be resolved if the batteries sit more on the front (or even lower and longer wheelbase) for more stablility and narow the track. I supose they have their reasons for this
Yes. The primary reason is aerodynamic. It allows the body to move in cleaner air, and contributes to a more than 10% reduction in aerodynamic drag compared to having the wheel pods closer in.
Every time I watch videos like this I think of the Slingshot?
i would be interested if they added a 2 place backseat
Look at their timeline they put out last year. They are planning to eventually have a four seater and a truck like vehicle too. Will be interesting to see how they make that happen and keep it efficient.
Are people inquisitive about why the car has three wheels rather than four? Do you have four-wheeled models as well?
The three wheels cuts rolling resistance and allows for better aerodynamics. The second design from Aptera will be a 5 passenger 4 wheel vehicle.
I put down deposit for one, only time will tell if this will be legit, it would be great if it actually comes in in 2023. As I don't see deliveries this year
I think they are going with the 3 wheel design to avoid auto safety requirements. If you get in any kind of fender bender this thing looks like it would be about as safe as a motorcycle. Being wide i could see having a wheel sheared off pretty easily. I bought a model S in the first year of production and put 120,000 miles on it and traded it for a model 3 which we still own, I’m waiting for the pickup (deposit sent in the 2 day). This thing looks fun, an open top version might be fun.
I can't see how this could be no safer than a motorcycle. The shell is as strong as an F1.
No, this is not correct, although it will help with things like replacing mirrors with cameras. The three wheel design and the width of the front track was the only way to get the cd=0.13 as low as it is. With front and rear crumple zones, front and side air bags, and a very strong passenger safety cage, this will test among the safer cars when the crash test ratings are in, shortly before production begins.
You call it a weekend car. Why not call it a commuter car?
And save your Tesla (or like car) for the family weekend trips.
How about the 1,000 mile range?
Ideal for advanturous young and fit retired couples.
Also, range anxiety is a nonissue with such a range for just about any realistic travelling scenario.
The only thing that remains is the purchase price.
All EV's are realistically still way to expensive for anyone but the upper middle class or the principled and determined environmental fans.
Note: I am curious about the safety rating for this car (front, side, rear impact).
The cheapest Aptera is about $10k cheaper than the average new car in the US.
@@CorwynGC
That is a good thing ... if they can get the car into (mass) production.
But even if, it remains to be a two seater. It is not a family car.
And a minor detail, there seems to be no place for a front license plate. Which is fine for the American market but might be an issue for the rest of the world.
And talking about America, why is everybody in the states so obsessed about ridiculously fast accelerations and unrealistic top speeds?
What "performance" do you realistically need from an average family or commuter car?
Even in Germany where there are no speed limits on certain stretches of the "autobahn".
@@wimahlers A minor detail, but you see fit to mention it, as if it was some sort of obstacle. No prototype car is shown with license plates, and yet all production cars somehow seem to end up with them. How extraordinary.
@@CorwynGC
Except ... the Aptera currently shown has a rear license plate.
But how do you attach a front license plate on the aerodynamically curved front without compromising the aerodynamics?
@@wimahlers And yet you seem to think this is a problem... What is it with people who think that somehow people are going to spend millions of dollars building a car, and forget simple things like license plates. The idea is either absurd or FUD. You have been moved into the FUD category IMO.
I am beginning to think it’s a scam❗️🧐 I placed an order. Their off of fully refundable? Nowhere on their site is there any way to cancel or request a refund. Their free car for 26 referrals that has no terms or conditions with it means if all the referrals cancel you would still get a free car! No lawyer would let that offer go out without terms and conditions. I emailed them they don’t respond. My next step is to contact the consumer protection administration and state attorney general. These guys bailed on investors once before.
Update , they did reply to my email and sent me a link to Google docs for the terms and conditions of their offer. Yes it is required that referrals must buy before you get the credit.
I believe that the Aptera company intention is honest. However, after looking closely I requested and received a full refund. I would really like to own the Aptera but since that will take years before it actually available I decided to move on to look at other possibilities.
@@thejackdiamondart Thanks for your update! The car and the timing will not be ideal for everyone. I have been following them for some time, and was able to get an early preorder. I hope to have my car at the end of the year, and will be glad to show it in person to anyone in Northern California, and perhaps beyond who would like to see it in person.
It’s $100 deposit. I don’t know if I’ll get mine in a year or two years but $100 is nothing to keep my place in line. The people who have used my referral link might not buy until 2023. If I end up getting a second one free, my son would probably take it.
@@CyberOwners Best of luck. I did get a refund of my deposit. I believe they mean well but I lack confidence in the management planning to succeed. I invested that $100. in cryptocurrency and that has since doubled. At this rate, if they do succeed and are available in two or three years my investments will meet the cost.
I think it need 2 more seats in the back,____or at least One bigger one::
That is coming next!
Do they have 4 door?
There will be a 4 wheel, 5 passenger sedan in their future.
It looks awesome. I'm in. Does anyone know about solar window Technologies? If it works, it would be perfect for at aptera. But it smells a little like Nikola to me.
They actually have a working prototype though!
I don't see why not tesla wouldn't just buy this company and let it run stand alone to ensure the success of this company and the synergistic benefit.... ip along would be worth it....
Elon said he doesn’t like three wheeled vehicles
I think this is legit. I do wonder how they make a 1000 mile claim without proof. I will believe that when it actually accomplishes the feat, and actually for all of its battery variant models.
The car uses less than 100 watt hours per mile at EPA highway speeds. This is how.
The 250 mile range car would be a great second car for a two car family. Charge 110 miles overnight with a normal household charger? Sold. If it's really $25K in the US before tax credits, I'll buy one. My only concern is whether the dog will fit in the back...
They have a pet kit as an option.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I've seen that. Seems like a small dog kit, though. Not much head room for a collie back there.
I think it's awesome, but I need more than two seats
Like fr I would get one but there needs to be more than 2 seat I want my full car seats like normal cars
You may like their next model coming, a sedan!
As a biased Paradigm+ pre-order holder.. "I don't see 1000 miles on this vehicle"... It's going to be the quietest vehicle on the road. And the most efficient road tripper on the market. Especially with SafetyPilot and 500mi/hr charge rate on level 3 charging. That equals.. Litterally the best road tripper in the world. Not to mention it's the most aerodynamic, so it's the best for road tripping. I don't understand your logic.
It’s probably not going to be quite as comfortable as my Cybertruck or Model 3. That’s my only reasoning. Plus if you have kids or big pets probably not the best for traveling.
@@CyberOwners It seats 2. Plus 2 pets. It's large enough to sleep 2 adults side by side with the pets. It's also going to cost you no joke 6 times less to drive across the country.. How is it not going to be comfortable for traveling?
@@halllwd94 Suspension?
@@Yelonek1986 what about it? Composites dampen sound better than metal. And the wheels are detached. The rear wheel is the only one you'll hear much from. And that's going to be fairly quiet due to the minimal material for sound to conduct through, as well as the low rolling resistance tires.
I think the design concept is fine; but if the best they can do with this "easy to construct" vehicle is 3 in a year, it would be fair to say; they don't seem to know how to make the rubber meet the road. Every day their chance to have some market share is sliding by.
They made three alpha vehicles to test initial design and learn from them. They are building a small fleet of beta vehicles now before production starts later next year. They’re hoping to build 5000 production vehicles for customers in 2022, though that will likely be lower due to the supply issues all manufacturers have faced.
@@CyberOwners Yes; tell me that after the next delay, the when they make their Delta variant, then the omicron.. It took them a year to build 3 Alphas, they just began building the Betas which aren't actually fully functional vehicles. When I see key people of the company screwing around making videos like they had nothing better to do; I have to conclude they value hype more than making the rubber meet the road and producing vehicles for customers.
@@litestuffllc7249 ok, then just ignore them and forget about them?
I couldn't agree more so skeptical of legacy and empty promises and half butted attempts until I see 1 vehicle on the road its still a fail in my books
The Chinese will do similar to Aptera
svelte
you learned that language
Svelte is my middle name.
@@brucebender5917 and who are you
Design looks like a neutered Tesla!
Tesla is the neutered party when it comes to power requirement or range.
I like it a LOT. As soon as I saw it I wanted one. I showed my wife she said “order it”! That says a lot for the car. But as we live in Australia we didn’t actually order. That can only happen when they announce a right hand drive variant.
Great video footage btw. Hadn’t seen some of it before now.
@@brantworks Right hand drive will be available. There are already other orders from Australia and other right hand drive countries.
Tesla is the leader in range for anything in production and is most efficient as well. Aptera will crush both but only because of the shape. You simply can’t get any more aerodynamic than this. But you also won’t be able to take your kids or friends anywhere in it either.
@@CyberOwners The first Aptera vehicle is not intended to be a mass market car, just as the Tesla Roadster wasn't. In fact it is going to fill a similar role as for Aptera as the Roadster did for Tesla.
The aerodynamic nature of the Aptera shape is by far the major contributor to the efficiency, but it is not the only one. The motors are also a small amount more efficient, and the rolling resistance is less. All of these factors multiply to achieve the end result.
Couples and people who commute will be attracted to these cars, and find them far cheaper to operate than a Tesla.
I hope this pushes Tesla into better customer service, quality control, and a saner right to repair policy. If it does, the entire industry will be improved.
Cyber owners - ZERO reason to buy a APTERA , they are allowed to make it LESS safe than a MODEL 3 and does NOT even Require AIR Bags.
They’re not required but they are using them and will be crash testing as a car even though they technically don’t need to
The model 3 should be commended as a very safe car, but it is likely that Aptera will exceed the crash test performance in several categories, especially roof crush strength.
@@n.brucenelson5920 - Ummm, the Tesla model 3 roof can Exceed 6 elephants stacked on top.
@@markplott4820 There are only two elephants that I pass on my commute so the Aptera will probably be safe enough.
Arcimoto better
@@BTSflyer I suppose
@@BTSflyer both awesome. I'm at ❤️ a cybertruck guy though
Arcimoto is a good delivery vehicle for in the city. Aptera will be a better cruising and traveling vehicle for sure.
nobody wants a DORKMOBILE
My name is Nobody then.