I love what these guys are trying to do. We do need the monster inefficient EVs too. A huge chunk of the population care much more about style than efficiency. Better a monster EV than a monster gas guzzler. At least for now.
I'm sure it's great EV in a place that is sunny year around and have very little traffic. It would be a terrible EV here in the north during the cold, dark winter.
@@SkepticalCaveman It will be tested in winter conditions at the Elaphe cold weather test track next season. Due to better traction control than any other car on the road at present, it is likely to perform very well. As far as lack of sun, the design means that it can gain 13 miles of range per hour plugged into a standard 115 volt, 15 amp outlet - far faster than other EVs.
I am an investor and have also reserved one. While the 1000 miles of range is as good as it gets, we have to remember that Aptera can only sits two. For a family of 4 to travel, two Apteras will be needed so the range will be cut in half. We are not exactly comparing apples to apples, when we compare Aptera to a Tesla Model 3, unless the trip is only for 1 or 2 people. I am getting the Aptera for when I travel with my other half and not with my entire family, which I will need a Tesla. I hope to see an expanded version of Aptera that can sit up to 4 with only a slight impact in range.
Honestly I'm more interested in seeing a 3 seater than a 5 seat vehicle. Like you, I also have a family of 4 but more than half the time I'm riding alone. I think this is the case for most families. I can see my wife and I each having our own Roadster and having a third car for family outings.
Very well put together video! Accurate information and very nicely edited. The only thing I would consider changing, is the volume on the Patron intro, it seems a little high IMO. Thanks for the Aptera content! 🙂 I was subscriber number 26 on my other channel, "BloodSpiller Gaming".
Great to hear. I discovered your Aptera channel a few days ago. I just watched your latest video today. You're a very good researcher and presenter. I 100% recommend anyone interested in Aptera to follow your channel.
I suggested an Aptera to my 26 year old daughter. However, i suggested a Tesla Model 3 to 87 year old aunt(who trained with the olympic team when younger and is still in remarkably good shape). However, my aunt really needs the autopilot features as they become available.. That is 90% of the reason i am suggesting that car her: a) autopilot b) it is closer to what she is used to and less of psychological adjustment-and at her age her adaptability is less. I would invest in aptera if i could figure the process out.
@@landrover325 yeah I'm a reservation holder but that is something that will make it difficult to maneuver in some tight parking places, probably won't be able to take into the city easily. This isn't going to be for everyone, its going to be a niche market in the US I think, definitely in many places in Europe. I do think of course that the upsides outweigh the downsides otherwise I wouldn't be interested, but it will be cool to see what happens.
The name of the Aptera model that is currently in production is Paradigm 4:25 Is not Roster is Paradigm 4:38 Is not Roster is Paradigm 5:29 Is not Roster is Paradigm 5:37 Is not Roster is Paradigm I Really like your video Thanks for all your work. 🙋🏻♂️
Actually, the Paradigm is just the special edition name of the first ~330 Aptera's to be made this year or early next year. The name of the standard production model variant is just: "Aptera" for this vehicle. I got this straight form Chris Anthony in a question to him on Wefunder.
@@apterareboot1555 It is just “Aptera”, this is the brand and the model designation for their first vehicle. I had asked Chris Anthony what the model designation was, and he said: “It’s just Aptera ;)”
he invested because he sees there is excitement for this platform and design. Its got some good traction and its something a little different from the norm.
I think the Aptera is more than a little different. Between FSD and SEV, I think we are watching an evolution in daily mobility unfold right before our eyes.
Excellent video. Thank you. Also explains the reason why I'm getting the 1000mi version. It'll be the first and last 1000mi EV for a very very long time as resources become scarce.
Battery production issues will be fixed in the long term (10+ years). Short term, a lot of vehicle manufacturers (2-6 wheel vehicles) and energy storage companies have extremely high demand coming up. Aptera has a huge opportunity to differentiate themselves, establish and lead a whole new category of electric vehicles (SEV).
@@apterareboot1555 I doubt it. And the reason I doubt it is we are about to go through the hardest period of time Elon Musk has been talking about as "the next largest threat to humanity" a mass die off of people. We've become so crowded viruses and bacteria have become more deadly, and technology is just about to hit the point where it's actively smarter than we are. Unless we navigate the next couple decades very carefully, it'll be hard to make significant progress on battery technology if we are all locked inside and find it hard to collaborate. I agree they can differentiate themselves, but they are going to have to use non-lithium batteries in their 4-wheel vehicles to avoid the shortages of materials we are only just starting to notice in every day life.
I think this product has a blockchain type potential. At first only a few will understand its potential. After a while more people adopt it simply due to its unparalleled utility.
@@apterareboot1555 Well stated. Yours is the same view I have exactly. Who would look at a VW beetle now, without knowing its history , and think "Wow, what amazing feat of engineering. I'll bet there was a rabid following for these and they sold millions of them." ? Economy, simplicity, quality, easy to work on, reasonable price, cult appeal for a very different body style - am I talking about VW Beetle or the Aptera? I'm not saying there is ANY guarantee the Aptera will catch on in a big way but I think there is lots of room for excitement about the possibility. Even more so for the question "Can it command a significant and healthy niche in the coming EV market?"
@@kirkjohnson9353 Granting right to repair means that anyone who wants to get into aftermarket Aptera mods has a green light to do so, and the company will provide technical information. I think we are going to see a wonderful aftermarket grow up around it.
I think with a $25K tesla just around the corner, Aptera might want to reconsider their price point. If that's not possible may be try getting Tesla's somehow involved. I believe that's one of the ways Aptera can make sure to get a significant EV market share. If not, going head to head with Tesla and it's $25K EV might just be too steep of a hill to climb. Get the big fish asap! We want to see Aptera succeed.
yeah everything sounds good on paper but lets see how reliable and what kind of service they can provide. what good is a car that can go 1000 miles on one charge and all that when it keeps breaking down. so i'll wait and see how they do for the first 2 yrs.
Hey, you mentioned you are an investor, but Aptera Is a private company, and it is not listed on the stock market. I also Love what they are doing and would love to invest in it, so, How did you do it?.
Aptera conducted a funding round through a platform called WeFunder a few months back. They are planning to have another funding round soon, they are just waited for SEC approval. I will post a video about it as soon a there's an announcement.
An instrument called a SAFE (simple agreement for future equity) is an agreement for the right to purchase stock in a future funding round, including an IPO, should one occur. The amount that can be offered and how much one can buy is closely controlled by the SEC, and Aptera was way over subscribed and had to return a lot of the money last time. The limits have been relaxed some for the next round, when they are able to offer it.
@@aussieideasman8498 In the US the rules changed to allow unqualified investors to make pre-IPO investors in 2014. Now the little guy is not excluded from early stage opportunities the way they were when Tesla was launched. At the time, I lived in California and so it has been relatively easy for me to do due diligence, and I had early correspondence with both the founders, and some of their key suppliers. Last week I visited the new factory sight and spoke with the crew preparing the space for the production line. I also visited the present main business location and got a ride in the Luna prototype and spoke with some of the engineers. Much of what you are saying on your website is nonsense,, which I now know from personal experience. Just to be clear, I am now a small investor, a volunteer (unpaid) brand ambassador and an early pre-order holder with decades of experience as a supplier and quality consultant to the auto industry, including many unsuccessful and a few successful EV startups.
@@n.brucenelson5920 "rules changed . . . in 2014". Just one more item of motive to resurrect and scam again, as far as I can tell. We all see things a little differently. "the new factory sight" - it's 'site'. "Much of what you are saying on your website is nonsense". Yet neither you nor their engineers or even the founders refute it; all of what you say is nonsense until someone does. "which I now know from personal experience". If you have personal experience, then you are equipped to refute it, yourself. You have not done a lot of early homework I challenged you with, so I know this as just more guff from you. Even ex-ministers lie. Heck; so do current ministers. ". . . a volunteer (unpaid) . . .". But can you tell me the size of your discount at the current time?
Put the paired wheels in the back. Make the wheels closer together and couple them so that it can lean on turns. If possible, make them come together at speed, motorcycle like, but separate for stopping for stability.
Placing the paired wheels in back could contribute to understeer. Bringing them closer together would increase the drag by over 10%. The engineering balance for this design has been very carefully thought out and optimized. There will be a 4 wheel, 5 passenger design in the future that will sacrifice some of the efficiency for increased utility that will appeal to more users.
@@n.brucenelson5920 It would operate as a motorcycle, leaning etc. All wheels would be in the shadow of the body at speed., If it is advantageous to have a small gap between them, that is not a show stopper. Designing it would be a challenge, but yeah. My objection is at how wide the vehicle is.
@@jonahbert111 One of the prime design goals for this vehicle is simplicty and reduced parts count. There are other vehicles that are designed to lean, but not at the price. The width is part of the trade off to reach these other goals.
"Placing the paired wheels in back could contribute to understeer." Would this still be true even with torque vectoring? The main issue I found with that idea would be significant cost and complexity of designing and implementing such a system and also reduced space for battery cells. Thoughts?
Great commuter EV for sunny countries close to the equator, but solar panels on a viechle are COMPLETELY useless in the cold, dark, north where the sun doesn't rise during winter. Being a 3 wheeler makes it cheap, but also unsafe since it won't survive a crash. In summary it's great EV if you live in a place that is sunny year around and has very little traffic. I guess the desert?
The solar panels aren't really all that important, you would still have an insanely efficient vehicle even if you drove it in an underground tunnel and the panels don't add to much cost. The vehicle itself has a fairly long and wide wheel base with a low center of gravity so I doubt stability will be an issue even with it being a 3 wheeler. It is designed with a reinforced passenger compartment with appropriate crumple zones so it should be at least as safe in a crash as an average compact car(we will need to wait for them to release the crash test data for a more exact comparison)
I wish Aptera well. The US is the country that drives SUVs and are unwilling as a whole to take steps to improve gas mileage. Americans as a whole are not willing to make sacrifices (Some cannot even wear a mask cause Freedom!!). Aptera is a very very niche (cool) vehicle as it only seats 2. Production is hard, ask Tesla. Making hand made parts are hard to manufacture at scale. Finally, I would like to see a NHTSA crash of the Aptera and one against an SUV. The solar charging is cool but sort of a gimmick. It is cool that if you leave on week long trip, your car will be charged when you get back.
So, as I understand it......Aptera went down bc financial crash in ‘09, and bc feds would not authorize low interest loan bc vehicle is a motorcycle (I.e. 3 wheels) versus an automobile (4 wheels). On the positive side it would not be restricted by the NHTA requirements for a 4 wheel vehicle. Will Aptera be successful know bc plenty of private financial investment, or is there an unforeseen, or more precisely undisclosed regulatory hurdle looming???
Ivan, if a company is denied big bucks for lack of a wheel, they would simply make a double wheel of the same weight and qualify for the dough. That excuse is a furphy. The barriers to production are not limited to regulations, but include promised attributes that can't be met, and there could be many of those. The fact that there has been a 10 year gap where no car make has made one is indicative of there being too many barriers. If it sounds too good to be true - it probably is. Aside from a slippery shape, they are claiming the batteries do better than batteries, and the motors do better than motors to such an extent that the shape has virtually no chance of generating the massive improvements. It's all talk. A VW Transporter doesn't lose out that much to a Mazda Miata and their drag coefficients are poles apart. But the real red flag to a bull is in the cooling system: The first Aptera overheated in 30 laps of a 50 lap challenge, and they are using the same method of cooling with no explanation of how it will work this time. It is claimed to cool the motor and batteries using a common loop, yet there is no visible sign of the loop going to the motors, plus Chris contradicts Steve by saying the motors need no cooling. Where the three channels are drilled through the very thin composite material in the body, they provide a very weak breaking point, plus the cartoon they provide of it has them going through the doors, which is impossible to do. Watch my video to see what I mean. There are so many reasons why they look like not delivering on what they promise that only a gullible fool would overlook them.
@@aussieideasman8498 Thanks for the insightful info. I’m in Northern California so a visit to Carlsbad would be helpful. I do believe the 3 wheeled concept is the right way. When I visit the factory I will be sure to bear your comments in mind. Thanks again!
@@ivanhall7748 I discovered recently that Sonos only has about 10% of their predicted solar range, and Aptera will get 4 miles a day if it used similar software. It wasn't long after our first conversation that the Beta came out with a radiator. The signs are not good.
Aptera and Tesla talks are under NDAs at the moment, so no one outside of the two companies knows at present. We should have a number of major vendor announcements in a few months. They seem to be talking about supplying batteries and autopilot as well. Of course there are talks going on with other vendors for these things too. Aptera has some IP that Tesla might really want access to as well, and on the present car the market position and volumes are not really a threat to Tesla's business plan.
Sandy Munro also recently said that hydrogen cars are a threat to electric ones so..... take that for what it's worth. He may not know anything that we dont know.
Crash tests will be performed and published before production begins. There are reasons to believe that it will do very, very well. Even the original model, passed the automotive crash test ratings even though it is not near as safe as the present design.
@Kiri Uacybhail Otaraua Then you rely on the 3.5 second 0-60 mph acceleration - provided you sprung for a 3 wheel motor model. And with a top speed of 177kms it looks like you could outrun them, too. ;)
Not all company purchases are for practical reasons. Imagine this is one of your company cars with nice business wrap or other large decal with your company contact information on it. Now, think about how many eyeballs that would attract and how many conversations it would start. Cheers!
It's a great technological achievement and all, but what is the actual demand for those tiny cars? What's the trunk space? How safe are those tiny containers? I didn't see much of a crumple zone in those models of the 4 main parts... It's just... It looks very niche-oriented. It might be a hit for people living in big cities who never go on vacation, but that's about it, I think. Teslas will continue to drop in price. Massively, probably. Remember, they are going to transition their models to very few cast pieces to make up the frame, quite like what Aptera seems to be doing. Affordability time and again has been stated by Elon to be top priority for them. And honestly, 1000 miles of range are somewhat over the top, don't you think? 400-500 probably is kind of the sweet spot, you can basically take long road trips with maybe a few short brakes during the day and then fully charge at night while not on the road. I just don't see too many people wanting one of the Apteras.
All great questions. I'm actively working on a video address a lot of this. Not so easy for me; lots of research into areas which are new to me. Video should be out within a week or so. Stay tuned.
The Aptera has both front and rear crumple zones and an F1 style passenger safety cage. The original model passed automotive crash tests and this one will be far safer. You are correct that it is a niche car, but the niche is larger than you seem to think it is. You don't have to buy a 1000 mile range version. The 250 range model is priced at $25,900. And as far as demand, when preorders started the most expensive initial production of the 1000 mile range models sold out first - in under 12 hours. So much for no demand. That said, I ordered a 400 mile range model, which will be fine for my needs.
@@n.brucenelson5920 thanks for clarifying! well, tesla won't be able to supply the whole world with EV's alone. It's kind of exciting to see who will actually become a significant player. looks like aptera might indeed be up to something then.
@@KhaelaMenshaK I should have mentioned that there is 25 cu ft of cargo space and enough room tor two people to sleep in on camping trips, which I hope to take advantage of.
Chris Anthony already has experience in taking another company he founded through a successful IPO, and I think he will do this again in around 18 to 24 months.
I really wouldn't want to get hit in that car and I guess they can grow the design of the vehicle but that is one ugly car it looks niche at best but maybe they can grow thru innovation
The looks are a case of form follows function. Safety is just as strong a part of the design as efficiency. The ratings will be excellent when it is crash tested.
What a crock! You speak for 8:33, and out of that Sandy talks for under 28 seconds. In your 8 minutes you never discuss anything about the headline; "Sandy Munro Invests in Aptera: What Does He Know That We Don't", which should have a '?', BTW. So what does Sandy say? He doesn't say he has invested, for a start. He says he's interested in the acceleration and top speed, and says others will like that. Well, most would be in the acceleration, but almost none in the puny top speed, which Chris says is limited to 100, and can only be "stretched to 110"; something I know that Sandy apparently doesn't know. Then he says that it can charge itself, and can hardly believe it. Well, he also doesn't know that someone on TH-cam calculated that to get the claimed range from the solar, they can't drive over something like 12 mph, from memory. If they tried the 0-60 in 3.5 seconds on only a day in the sun, they would probably drain the power before reaching 50, lol! Sandy finishes by saying he looks forward to working with them, but does not specify he invested. All in all, he has not said anything about knowing something we don't already know, and nor have you. I find the video completely deceptive.
I've heard that Aptera is going to be focused on repairability and the Right To Repair movement. Can you investigate this and do a video? That's a MASSIVE selling point for me!
You are correct. From the Aptera Motors FAQ: We are designing Aptera to be very modular and easy to service anywhere in the world. 24-hour parts, shipping, and mobile service will make most service tasks a breeze. We will open source all of our service and build documentation that allows people to buy outside our service network, do service themselves or with a local shop. We think the “right to repair” should be applied on every large purchase and we are very supportive of “do it yourself” rights! You can learn more about our philosophy here.: th-cam.com/video/9y5VWOaSXCc/w-d-xo.html
@@SirBapkins Welcome to the family! I have been programing on open source tools since the early days of small computers,, and am writing this on a Linux machine. :) I am passionate about it, too.
Maybe there is a mass market electric vehicle for me after all that with a few solar panels at home along with the solar cells imbedded in the vehicle would allow me to stop subsidizing big oil 🛢️ think 🤔 about how much fun it would be to never buy ⛽ gasoline again how utterly exhilarating.
I saw that Sandy Monro was 1 of 2 major investors in this company. Having seen various TH-cam video interviews with Sandy, I too may buy a few shares of Aptera when they offer an IPO in the stock market. I just hope that Aptera comes out with ADAS for their vehicles. I like nearly everything about this vehicle especially that is can partially charge itself line the German Sono SUV. The only thing that gives me hesitation is that it is not large enough to take much in the way of people and cargo. I just wish Sandy would link with the guys in Germany who are doing much of the same thing but with a more family friendly vehicle. Could you imagine how great it would be if they could merge together or share the same technology the same way Geely and Volvo did? BTW, Geely and Volvo are testing out level 4 ADAS in their cars.
Do you know how much Sandy invested? It may be $2 for all we know. Sandy has gone completely silent for too long to put any trust in his involvement. Further to Sonos; they have just discovered that their cells produce about 10% of the range they expected. As for those partnerships; Geely actually owns Volvo.
The design goals on safety is just as focused as on efficiency. There will be crash test results available before production begins, and they will be excellent. Here is a comment from the FAQ: Aptera is made of carbon, kevlar, and hemp Sandwich core composites provide great strength. In our previous test we had the highest roof crush strength of ANY passenger car on the road. And our new version is even stronger. There is more information available on this topic, too.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Not joking, but a teardropped vehicle has an advantage, not much to get caught on: th-cam.com/video/CCteodyzqTo/w-d-xo.html IT Will have Better than average crash rating.
With it being a composite construction it will be as strong or stronger than steel/aluminum in crashes. Formula one and Indy cars are all composite, with drivers walking away from some pretty spectacular crashes. Wait for the official crash test results to compare to conventional auto construction.
So people are going to switch off autonomous mode when driving on hollidays? We All know how IT feels to get behind the wheel after having not driven for a forthnight!
This is a WONDERFUL vehicle, just the world is not ready for it. I´ve post in on Twitter and some people (mostly women) are concerned about the safety, saying (I quote) "it is as fragile as a motorcycle". People who doesn´t understand how modern composite materials work usually are afraid of this. Being a materials engineer I just LOVE all of the engineering involved in this development. You didn´t have any competition back then when the company went into trouble, and now you can say "we just need 1/4 of the batteries needed for a Tesla Roadster". That´s HUGE. And I want both to invest in your company, and get one of those cars.
I'm actually in the process of setting up a shopify store. I'm waiting to receive a test print so I can assess the print quality. Should be available soon. I will add an update to a video once it's 100% ready to go.
No, but you still invest in Aptera using Wefunder: wefunder.com/aptera There's a new funding round happening sometime this March or April. I will post about it as soon as dates are firm.
Why does it take forever to deliver the car?, when will it be deliver? I as well as other people will start to loose interest, and start looking elsewhere, if it take any longer.
There is still a great deal of work to do after the prototype was finished. The verification vehicles need to be finished to test the various performance edge cases, including skid pad performance, range and HP, temperature range for the HVAC and battery management system. The rest of the vendor partners need to be tied down, including batteries, a heat pump, the self driving system and other items. Delta evaluation vehicles need to be built, fine tuning the production process, and put in the hands of third party reviewers, and made available for test drives for potential customers. Finally crash testing will be done, although it is not legally required. Adjustments in the design may happen at each stage. In spite of all this, they are still on track to deliver the first production vehicles by the end of the year. This is not slow (although as an early preorder holder, it seems like it) It is actually a very aggressive plan, especially with Covid precautions in effect.
The number of preorders, including mine show that you don't have a clue about the market. Tesla achieved their success with a much more limited design to begin with.
@@n.brucenelson5920 In Europe, cars are taxed by fuel consumption and not by a linear scale. This Will happen to EVs too, so a dedicated commuter vehicle like this, Will be significantly cheaper in a few years, than an electrified SUV. Expect market conditions to change over the next decade as petrol cars are getting banned. We still don't want big vehicles in our city centers.
I think they could redesign the wheel covers, fuse it all to the body with a different more futuristic design and let the wheels turn left and right inside . But I do love the car overall .
Thanks for the feedback. I gave my option on why I think he's bullish on Aptera and I also included a piece from Sandy where he spoke about the the value proposition of Aptera @ 7:18.
Sandy is very discerning and kind of a perfectionist. I think a lot of people miss this. Why would he move his money out of hard earned cash out of king of EV Tesla and place it into Aptera start-up of all EV projects. Nothing is guaranteed and this is certainly NOT financial advice but I'm betting with Munro; I'm betting on Aptera.
@@stewartsaunders1838 No worries - none of us are immune from our personal situations, especially at this time. I wish you all the best and am glad you cared enough about this to comment. Thanks for giving me a chance to say that if I give pushback on some of the comments, I consider that the writers behind them have given me the gift of refining what I think and if I didn't think it was worth replying, I wouldn't spend my time doing so. I learn from every one of you. Thank you!
Yes and no. If I have an ICE vehicle that I'm not ready to sell or trade, I might be tempted to buy something like a Model 3 to reduce my carbon footprint but now that a vehicle like Aptera is available, you can choose to keep your ICE vehicle for special circumstances but use your low cost, environmentally friendly Aptera as your daily driver.
@@apterareboot1555 @Aptera Reboot In the 00's there were a few thousand rich folks that cross shopped a Prius and a Lexus LS400, That doesn't make them direct competitors. That there are a handful of uber environmentalist that will cross shop Apterta and Model 3 doesn't make them direct competitors. 99% plus of people shopping Model 3 will not consider an Aptera instead.
@@CMCNestT Yet to be determined, but I believe there will be a lot more than 1% that consider the Aptera. The main question is if you need more seats and Tesla FSD, if you don’t, the Aptera is more cost effective, financially conscious consumers will skew more towards the Aptera. The Model “2” may be a more direct comparison in the future at the lower price point and smaller size.
Sounds convincing in theory but honestly, even though it’s half the cost, it’s actually less than half the car… look at driven wheels, grip in inclement weather, handling performance, passenger capacity, cargo capacity, crash testing, safety requirements, dealer network, dedicated charging infrastructure, etc
It has as many if not more driven wheels than my current car, has more contact with the ground relative to the vehicles weight than my current vehicle, and since every wheel is independently powered by its own motor it should have a much better traction control system. So long as you have a nice set of snow tires my current car handles reasonably well in snow, and I doubt an aptera would do any worse.
I'm sure you're passionate about something else other than hating on strangers. It's so much better to be a creator than a hater. Try it. It feels nice. I wish you well.
it's things like this that make me excited for the future
Agreed!
This is exactly what an EV should be - light, efficient, affordable, unlike the SUV monstrosities offered by others.
Absolutely
I love what these guys are trying to do. We do need the monster inefficient EVs too. A huge chunk of the population care much more about style than efficiency. Better a monster EV than a monster gas guzzler. At least for now.
Yes indeed but a 4 seater would be nice with those with kids. But I love it & I’m glad it’s being revived.
I'm sure it's great EV in a place that is sunny year around and have very little traffic. It would be a terrible EV here in the north during the cold, dark winter.
@@SkepticalCaveman It will be tested in winter conditions at the Elaphe cold weather test track next season. Due to better traction control than any other car on the road at present, it is likely to perform very well.
As far as lack of sun, the design means that it can gain 13 miles of range per hour plugged into a standard 115 volt, 15 amp outlet - far faster than other EVs.
When it is allowed, I would like to visit the new facility. My Grandson lives 23 miles from Sorrento valley, and we are both excited about the APTERA.
I'm on the East coast but I'd love to see the facility the first chance I get.
They plan to do an open house and have cars on tour when they can work out the Covid issues.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I believe that will be rather soon likely as soon as people can show proof of vaccination.
@@fanfare100 @N. Bruce Nelson I believe it's been more than a year - how's it going?
I am an investor and have also reserved one. While the 1000 miles of range is as good as it gets, we have to remember that Aptera can only sits two. For a family of 4 to travel, two Apteras will be needed so the range will be cut in half. We are not exactly comparing apples to apples, when we compare Aptera to a Tesla Model 3, unless the trip is only for 1 or 2 people. I am getting the Aptera for when I travel with my other half and not with my entire family, which I will need a Tesla. I hope to see an expanded version of Aptera that can sit up to 4 with only a slight impact in range.
They have a five seater and several other variants on the drawing board.
Honestly I'm more interested in seeing a 3 seater than a 5 seat vehicle. Like you, I also have a family of 4 but more than half the time I'm riding alone. I think this is the case for most families. I can see my wife and I each having our own Roadster and having a third car for family outings.
@@apterareboot1555 a third car... man.. how many people even have the space to park three cars.
Get a skill Saw and Some fiberglass matts! You'll have the first stretch Aptera. I know Rich's rebuilds is going to try!
This is the kind of EV I'd love to see take on the market. My fear is obstruction from competing interests.
i ordered mine 2 wks ago.....YEAH !!!! 3/'21 EXPECT IT NTO BE READY 6 to 18 mos.. ...i am in no rush but eager i be.
It's 5/22 - 14 gone. You won't be getting it in September. Let me know when you do?
Very well put together video! Accurate information and very nicely edited. The only thing I would consider changing, is the volume on the Patron intro, it seems a little high IMO. Thanks for the Aptera content! 🙂 I was subscriber number 26 on my other channel, "BloodSpiller Gaming".
Great to hear. I discovered your Aptera channel a few days ago. I just watched your latest video today. You're a very good researcher and presenter. I 100% recommend anyone interested in Aptera to follow your channel.
@@apterareboot1555 Thanks! 😊
I suggested an Aptera to my 26 year old daughter. However, i suggested a Tesla Model 3 to 87 year old aunt(who trained with the olympic team when younger and is still in remarkably good shape). However, my aunt really needs the autopilot features as they become available.. That is 90% of the reason i am suggesting that car her: a) autopilot b) it is closer to what she is used to and less of psychological adjustment-and at her age her adaptability is less. I would invest in aptera if i could figure the process out.
If they make it, I'll buy it. I wish it weren't so big. But being twice as efficient as our rwd model 3, ill overlook its ridiculous width.
No beauty contest winner but a heck of a performer (hopefully).
Do you know how wide it is? Is it wider than a four wheeler? It's triangular shape might dictate a certain width/length ratio?
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Its 88" wide, wider than most heavy trucks
@@landrover325 yeah I'm a reservation holder but that is something that will make it difficult to maneuver in some tight parking places, probably won't be able to take into the city easily.
This isn't going to be for everyone, its going to be a niche market in the US I think, definitely in many places in Europe. I do think of course that the upsides outweigh the downsides otherwise I wouldn't be interested, but it will be cool to see what happens.
Does anyone know if this can be Registered and Insured in Massachusetts?
The name of the Aptera model that is currently in production is Paradigm
4:25 Is not Roster is Paradigm
4:38 Is not Roster is Paradigm
5:29 Is not Roster is Paradigm
5:37 Is not Roster is Paradigm
I Really like your video Thanks for all your work. 🙋🏻♂️
Actually, the Paradigm is just the special edition name of the first ~330 Aptera's to be made this year or early next year. The name of the standard production model variant is just: "Aptera" for this vehicle. I got this straight form Chris Anthony in a question to him on Wefunder.
O... Thank's for taking your time to let me know.
@@Just_me_73 No problem! In your defense, it is confusing, they haven't done a very good job of making it clear, IMO.
Definitely not clear. Is it the Roadster, the Aptera 3 or the Paradigm?? Whichever it is, it's still cool but clarity would be nice.
@@apterareboot1555 It is just “Aptera”, this is the brand and the model designation for their first vehicle. I had asked Chris Anthony what the model designation was, and he said: “It’s just Aptera ;)”
I'm gonna love the insurance rates as a motorcycle. I can't wait to get one.
You will probably find they are much higher than a Toyota Camry.
he invested because he sees there is excitement for this platform and design. Its got some good traction and its something a little different from the norm.
I think the Aptera is more than a little different. Between FSD and SEV, I think we are watching an evolution in daily mobility unfold right before our eyes.
Excellent video. Thank you. Also explains the reason why I'm getting the 1000mi version. It'll be the first and last 1000mi EV for a very very long time as resources become scarce.
Battery production issues will be fixed in the long term (10+ years). Short term, a lot of vehicle manufacturers (2-6 wheel vehicles) and energy storage companies have extremely high demand coming up. Aptera has a huge opportunity to differentiate themselves, establish and lead a whole new category of electric vehicles (SEV).
@@apterareboot1555 I doubt it. And the reason I doubt it is we are about to go through the hardest period of time Elon Musk has been talking about as "the next largest threat to humanity" a mass die off of people. We've become so crowded viruses and bacteria have become more deadly, and technology is just about to hit the point where it's actively smarter than we are. Unless we navigate the next couple decades very carefully, it'll be hard to make significant progress on battery technology if we are all locked inside and find it hard to collaborate. I agree they can differentiate themselves, but they are going to have to use non-lithium batteries in their 4-wheel vehicles to avoid the shortages of materials we are only just starting to notice in every day life.
Great Video, thanks.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you for watching and subscribing.
Great niche product. For sure not for everyone. Not as Fun as few others but will get you from A to B 👍. The future is bright!
I think this product has a blockchain type potential. At first only a few will understand its potential. After a while more people adopt it simply due to its unparalleled utility.
@@apterareboot1555 Well stated. Yours is the same view I have exactly. Who would look at a VW beetle now, without knowing its history , and think "Wow, what amazing feat of engineering. I'll bet there was a rabid following for these and they sold millions of them." ?
Economy, simplicity, quality, easy to work on, reasonable price, cult appeal for a very different body style - am I talking about VW Beetle or the Aptera?
I'm not saying there is ANY guarantee the Aptera will catch on in a big way but I think there is lots of room for excitement about the possibility. Even more so for the question "Can it command a significant and healthy niche in the coming EV market?"
@@kirkjohnson9353 Granting right to repair means that anyone who wants to get into aftermarket Aptera mods has a green light to do so, and the company will provide technical information. I think we are going to see a wonderful aftermarket grow up around it.
I think with a $25K tesla just around the corner, Aptera might want to reconsider their price point. If that's not possible may be try getting Tesla's somehow involved. I believe that's one of the ways Aptera can make sure to get a significant EV market share. If not, going head to head with Tesla and it's $25K EV might just be too steep of a hill to climb.
Get the big fish asap! We want to see Aptera succeed.
He is in Arcimoto and bought share of aptera! Interesting!
Where do you buy share?
@@dorianpadilla9338 Not possible.
How do you invest in Aptera? I want in. I love this car.
Aptera is the future.
*I would love to own it*
yeah everything sounds good on paper but lets see how reliable and what kind of service they can provide. what good is a car that can go 1000 miles on one charge and all that when it keeps breaking down. so i'll wait and see how they do for the first 2 yrs.
Hey, you mentioned you are an investor, but Aptera Is a private company, and it is not listed on the stock market. I also Love what they are doing and would love to invest in it, so, How did you do it?.
Aptera conducted a funding round through a platform called WeFunder a few months back. They are planning to have another funding round soon, they are just waited for SEC approval. I will post a video about it as soon a there's an announcement.
An instrument called a SAFE (simple agreement for future equity) is an agreement for the right to purchase stock in a future funding round, including an IPO, should one occur. The amount that can be offered and how much one can buy is closely controlled by the SEC, and Aptera was way over subscribed and had to return a lot of the money last time. The limits have been relaxed some for the next round, when they are able to offer it.
@@n.brucenelson5920 So even the investment is suspect.
@@aussieideasman8498 In the US the rules changed to allow unqualified investors to make pre-IPO investors in 2014. Now the little guy is not excluded from early stage opportunities the way they were when Tesla was launched.
At the time, I lived in California and so it has been relatively easy for me to do due diligence, and I had early correspondence with both the founders, and some of their key suppliers. Last week I visited the new factory sight and spoke with the crew preparing the space for the production line. I also visited the present main business location and got a ride in the Luna prototype and spoke with some of the engineers. Much of what you are saying on your website is nonsense,, which I now know from personal experience.
Just to be clear, I am now a small investor, a volunteer (unpaid) brand ambassador and an early pre-order holder with decades of experience as a supplier and quality consultant to the auto industry, including many unsuccessful and a few successful EV startups.
@@n.brucenelson5920 "rules changed . . . in 2014". Just one more item of motive to resurrect and scam again, as far as I can tell. We all see things a little differently.
"the new factory sight" - it's 'site'.
"Much of what you are saying on your website is nonsense". Yet neither you nor their engineers or even the founders refute it; all of what you say is nonsense until someone does.
"which I now know from personal experience". If you have personal experience, then you are equipped to refute it, yourself. You have not done a lot of early homework I challenged you with, so I know this as just more guff from you. Even ex-ministers lie. Heck; so do current ministers.
". . . a volunteer (unpaid) . . .". But can you tell me the size of your discount at the current time?
Looking like my next car in a couple years
Looking like more than a couple of years, if at all.
Put the paired wheels in the back. Make the wheels closer together and couple them so that it can lean on turns. If possible, make them come together at speed, motorcycle like, but separate for stopping for stability.
Placing the paired wheels in back could contribute to understeer. Bringing them closer together would increase the drag by over 10%. The engineering balance for this design has been very carefully thought out and optimized. There will be a 4 wheel, 5 passenger design in the future that will sacrifice some of the efficiency for increased utility that will appeal to more users.
@@n.brucenelson5920 It would operate as a motorcycle, leaning etc. All wheels would be in the shadow of the body at speed., If it is advantageous to have a small gap between them, that is not a show stopper. Designing it would be a challenge, but yeah. My objection is at how wide the vehicle is.
@@jonahbert111 One of the prime design goals for this vehicle is simplicty and reduced parts count. There are other vehicles that are designed to lean, but not at the price. The width is part of the trade off to reach these other goals.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Yes, that is reasonable.
"Placing the paired wheels in back could contribute to understeer." Would this still be true even with torque vectoring? The main issue I found with that idea would be significant cost and complexity of designing and implementing such a system and also reduced space for battery cells. Thoughts?
How is this in comparison to AYRO?
People keep saying just sit in the sun. Its not like the base model will come with solar.
Remember the Elio!
🙄, unfortunately. Maybe they'll get the EV bug and make a comeback. I'm fine going the Aptera route instead.
Great commuter EV for sunny countries close to the equator, but solar panels on a viechle are COMPLETELY useless in the cold, dark, north where the sun doesn't rise during winter. Being a 3 wheeler makes it cheap, but also unsafe since it won't survive a crash.
In summary it's great EV if you live in a place that is sunny year around and has very little traffic. I guess the desert?
The solar panels aren't really all that important, you would still have an insanely efficient vehicle even if you drove it in an underground tunnel and the panels don't add to much cost. The vehicle itself has a fairly long and wide wheel base with a low center of gravity so I doubt stability will be an issue even with it being a 3 wheeler. It is designed with a reinforced passenger compartment with appropriate crumple zones so it should be at least as safe in a crash as an average compact car(we will need to wait for them to release the crash test data for a more exact comparison)
Hi. I'm not sure, 3 wheels, US$25K, it's too expensive, it should be just US$6K then it's four wheel.
God bless.
I wish Aptera well. The US is the country that drives SUVs and are unwilling as a whole to take steps to improve gas mileage. Americans as a whole are not willing to make sacrifices (Some cannot even wear a mask cause Freedom!!).
Aptera is a very very niche (cool) vehicle as it only seats 2. Production is hard, ask Tesla. Making hand made parts are hard to manufacture at scale. Finally, I would like to see a NHTSA crash of the Aptera and one against an SUV. The solar charging is cool but sort of a gimmick. It is cool that if you leave on week long trip, your car will be charged when you get back.
Crash tests will be performed before shipping starts at the end of the year.
@@n.brucenelson5920 No crash tests so far, and nothing to ship.
So, as I understand it......Aptera went down bc financial crash in ‘09, and bc feds would not authorize low interest loan bc vehicle is a motorcycle (I.e. 3 wheels) versus an automobile (4 wheels). On the positive side it would not be restricted by the NHTA requirements for a 4 wheel vehicle. Will Aptera be successful know bc plenty of private financial investment, or is there an unforeseen, or more precisely undisclosed regulatory hurdle looming???
Ivan, if a company is denied big bucks for lack of a wheel, they would simply make a double wheel of the same weight and qualify for the dough. That excuse is a furphy. The barriers to production are not limited to regulations, but include promised attributes that can't be met, and there could be many of those. The fact that there has been a 10 year gap where no car make has made one is indicative of there being too many barriers. If it sounds too good to be true - it probably is. Aside from a slippery shape, they are claiming the batteries do better than batteries, and the motors do better than motors to such an extent that the shape has virtually no chance of generating the massive improvements. It's all talk. A VW Transporter doesn't lose out that much to a Mazda Miata and their drag coefficients are poles apart. But the real red flag to a bull is in the cooling system:
The first Aptera overheated in 30 laps of a 50 lap challenge, and they are using the same method of cooling with no explanation of how it will work this time. It is claimed to cool the motor and batteries using a common loop, yet there is no visible sign of the loop going to the motors, plus Chris contradicts Steve by saying the motors need no cooling. Where the three channels are drilled through the very thin composite material in the body, they provide a very weak breaking point, plus the cartoon they provide of it has them going through the doors, which is impossible to do. Watch my video to see what I mean. There are so many reasons why they look like not delivering on what they promise that only a gullible fool would overlook them.
@@aussieideasman8498 Thanks for the insightful info. I’m in Northern California so a visit to Carlsbad would be helpful. I do believe the 3 wheeled concept is the right way. When I visit the factory I will be sure to bear your comments in mind. Thanks again!
@@ivanhall7748 You are most welcome. There are people who think I should say nothing; go figure?
@@ivanhall7748 I discovered recently that Sonos only has about 10% of their predicted solar range, and Aptera will get 4 miles a day if it used similar software. It wasn't long after our first conversation that the Beta came out with a radiator. The signs are not good.
How will they get access to the Tesla network, that would be a game changer
Aptera and Tesla talks are under NDAs at the moment, so no one outside of the two companies knows at present. We should have a number of major vendor announcements in a few months. They seem to be talking about supplying batteries and autopilot as well. Of course there are talks going on with other vendors for these things too. Aptera has some IP that Tesla might really want access to as well, and on the present car the market position and volumes are not really a threat to Tesla's business plan.
Sandy Munro also recently said that hydrogen cars are a threat to electric ones so..... take that for what it's worth. He may not know anything that we dont know.
Nice video! Not to nit pick but Aptera has named their vehicle the 'Paradigm' not the 'Roadster'...just sayin'. Keep up the great work.
Actually, Paradigm was the name given to the first few hundred special edition models that sold out in the first 24 hours of preorder.
@@n.brucenelson5920 My bad. Thanks for the clarification.
@@msmiller57 No worries! I love your passion!
Bruce is correct, the proper name for the the Aptera, is just: "The Aptera", according to Chris Anthony.
@N. Bruce Nelson, MVP as always. Thanks for the clarification.
Imagine driving one and a soccer mom in her suv runs into you... I don’t think it will hold up.
Crash tests will be performed and published before production begins. There are reasons to believe that it will do very, very well. Even the original model, passed the automotive crash test ratings even though it is not near as safe as the present design.
@Kiri Uacybhail Otaraua Then you rely on the 3.5 second 0-60 mph acceleration - provided you sprung for a 3 wheel motor model. And with a top speed of 177kms it looks like you could outrun them, too. ;)
@@n.brucenelson5920 What does 177 kph? Certainly no Aptera.
Nice job...keep it up :-)
Appreciate it. More to come soon.
Most commuters this car would be fine but for my business I require a SUV
Not all company purchases are for practical reasons.
Imagine this is one of your company cars with nice business wrap or other large decal with your company contact information on it. Now, think about how many eyeballs that would attract and how many conversations it would start.
Cheers!
Aptera knows that this is a niche vehicle. They have follow on vehicles in the pipeline that may be better suited to your needs.
Apologies for my poor comment below.
IMHO you REALLY DON’T NEED the loud intro!
100%
At least reduce the volume down to the normal video levels.
It's a great technological achievement and all, but what is the actual demand for those tiny cars? What's the trunk space? How safe are those tiny containers? I didn't see much of a crumple zone in those models of the 4 main parts... It's just... It looks very niche-oriented. It might be a hit for people living in big cities who never go on vacation, but that's about it, I think. Teslas will continue to drop in price. Massively, probably. Remember, they are going to transition their models to very few cast pieces to make up the frame, quite like what Aptera seems to be doing. Affordability time and again has been stated by Elon to be top priority for them.
And honestly, 1000 miles of range are somewhat over the top, don't you think? 400-500 probably is kind of the sweet spot, you can basically take long road trips with maybe a few short brakes during the day and then fully charge at night while not on the road.
I just don't see too many people wanting one of the Apteras.
All great questions. I'm actively working on a video address a lot of this. Not so easy for me; lots of research into areas which are new to me. Video should be out within a week or so. Stay tuned.
The Aptera has both front and rear crumple zones and an F1 style passenger safety cage. The original model passed automotive crash tests and this one will be far safer. You are correct that it is a niche car, but the niche is larger than you seem to think it is.
You don't have to buy a 1000 mile range version. The 250 range model is priced at $25,900. And as far as demand, when preorders started the most expensive initial production of the 1000 mile range models sold out first - in under 12 hours. So much for no demand. That said, I ordered a 400 mile range model, which will be fine for my needs.
@@n.brucenelson5920 thanks for clarifying! well, tesla won't be able to supply the whole world with EV's alone. It's kind of exciting to see who will actually become a significant player. looks like aptera might indeed be up to something then.
@@KhaelaMenshaK I should have mentioned that there is 25 cu ft of cargo space and enough room tor two people to sleep in on camping trips, which I hope to take advantage of.
Niceeeeeee
Does Sandy Munro have a SPAC?
Chris Anthony already has experience in taking another company he founded through a successful IPO, and I think he will do this again in around 18 to 24 months.
This car should be scaled down for one person.
I drove an enclosed one seater EV tricycle in the 90'! IT was like getting into a jetfighter! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CityEl
You really dont want to crash in this. I would rather buy Tesla with autopilot and lots of crumple zones that this bike.
His name is Sandy, not Cindy. Please learn the correct name and pronunciation.
Yeah, the stuff the bible says don't build on.
I really wouldn't want to get hit in that car and I guess they can grow the design of the vehicle but that is one ugly car it looks niche at best but maybe they can grow thru innovation
The looks are a case of form follows function. Safety is just as strong a part of the design as efficiency. The ratings will be excellent when it is crash tested.
What a crock! You speak for 8:33, and out of that Sandy talks for under 28 seconds. In your 8 minutes you never discuss anything about the headline; "Sandy Munro Invests in Aptera: What Does He Know That We Don't", which should have a '?', BTW. So what does Sandy say? He doesn't say he has invested, for a start. He says he's interested in the acceleration and top speed, and says others will like that. Well, most would be in the acceleration, but almost none in the puny top speed, which Chris says is limited to 100, and can only be "stretched to 110"; something I know that Sandy apparently doesn't know. Then he says that it can charge itself, and can hardly believe it. Well, he also doesn't know that someone on TH-cam calculated that to get the claimed range from the solar, they can't drive over something like 12 mph, from memory. If they tried the 0-60 in 3.5 seconds on only a day in the sun, they would probably drain the power before reaching 50, lol! Sandy finishes by saying he looks forward to working with them, but does not specify he invested. All in all, he has not said anything about knowing something we don't already know, and nor have you. I find the video completely deceptive.
NCAP rating - 10 😅, flat like a penny after a truck passes over it...
I've heard that Aptera is going to be focused on repairability and the Right To Repair movement. Can you investigate this and do a video? That's a MASSIVE selling point for me!
You are correct. From the Aptera Motors FAQ: We are designing Aptera to be very modular and easy to service anywhere in the world. 24-hour parts, shipping, and mobile service will make most service tasks a breeze. We will open source all of our service and build documentation that allows people to buy outside our service network, do service themselves or with a local shop. We think the “right to repair” should be applied on every large purchase and we are very supportive of “do it yourself” rights! You can learn more about our philosophy here.: th-cam.com/video/9y5VWOaSXCc/w-d-xo.html
@@n.brucenelson5920 I've placed my reservation based on this :)
@@SirBapkins Welcome to the family! I have been programing on open source tools since the early days of small computers,, and am writing this on a Linux machine. :) I am passionate about it, too.
This is awesome. Just awesome.
Agreed!
Good for you...please make this happen.
This is really something... I need and want one so bad!
That's the model SPERM (Sport Programmable Electric Regenerative Motorcar).
This comment is much Better than people dare to admit!
....IF IT'S ON TH-cam ...IT'S GOT TO BE TRUE!! (right?)
and IF IT'S ON THE INTERNET ...THAT PROVES IT'S TRUE! (right?)
...Choose Wisely Folks ...!!
Maybe there is a mass market electric vehicle for me after all that with a few solar panels at home along with the solar cells imbedded in the vehicle would allow me to stop subsidizing big oil 🛢️ think 🤔 about how much fun it would be to never buy ⛽ gasoline again how utterly exhilarating.
After being in Kuwait during the fires, I am all in.
First passenger vehicle which will essentially pay for itself.
I saw that Sandy Monro was 1 of 2 major investors in this company. Having seen various TH-cam video interviews with Sandy, I too may buy a few shares of Aptera when they offer an IPO in the stock market. I just hope that Aptera comes out with ADAS for their vehicles. I like nearly everything about this vehicle especially that is can partially charge itself line the German Sono SUV. The only thing that gives me hesitation is that it is not large enough to take much in the way of people and cargo. I just wish Sandy would link with the guys in Germany who are doing much of the same thing but with a more family friendly vehicle. Could you imagine how great it would be if they could merge together or share the same technology the same way Geely and Volvo did? BTW, Geely and Volvo are testing out level 4 ADAS in their cars.
Do you know how much Sandy invested? It may be $2 for all we know. Sandy has gone completely silent for too long to put any trust in his involvement. Further to Sonos; they have just discovered that their cells produce about 10% of the range they expected. As for those partnerships; Geely actually owns Volvo.
Very cool, the only thing I would worry about is safety
The design goals on safety is just as focused as on efficiency. There will be crash test results available before production begins, and they will be excellent. Here is a comment from the FAQ:
Aptera is made of carbon, kevlar, and hemp Sandwich core composites provide great strength. In our previous test we had the highest roof crush strength of ANY passenger car on the road. And our new version is even stronger.
There is more information available on this topic, too.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Not joking, but a teardropped vehicle has an advantage, not much to get caught on: th-cam.com/video/CCteodyzqTo/w-d-xo.html IT Will have Better than average crash rating.
With it being a composite construction it will be as strong or stronger than steel/aluminum in crashes. Formula one and Indy cars are all composite, with drivers walking away from some pretty spectacular crashes. Wait for the official crash test results to compare to conventional auto construction.
@@magooracing So strong they put a steel roll cage in the Beta.
The Aptera is a coupe. It is not a roadster. In fact; it is a fixed head coupe. Please
Self driving should take over short distance commuting and if it’s soon enough should make the case against anything else
I want to Aptera work with Comma AI on self driving. I think they have one of the best low cost level 2 systems currently available.
So people are going to switch off autonomous mode when driving on hollidays? We All know how IT feels to get behind the wheel after having not driven for a forthnight!
The numbers are correct, but it still won't fly, as it is butt ugly, that's my bet.
There are many of us who think that form follows function design is beautiful.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I know a blind person with a bridge for sale
@@mtjoeng Has he sold 9,000 of them since December?
@@n.brucenelson5920 Has Aptera sold one?
Will the car perform in cold climate like Chicago il, will it have a heater
Good Job, you’re a TH-camr now ;)
Thanks my friend. Still doesn't feel like it, but I at least hope I'm putting out good content.
This right here is the way to go!
This is a WONDERFUL vehicle, just the world is not ready for it. I´ve post in on Twitter and some people (mostly women) are concerned about the safety, saying (I quote) "it is as fragile as a motorcycle". People who doesn´t understand how modern composite materials work usually are afraid of this. Being a materials engineer I just LOVE all of the engineering involved in this development. You didn´t have any competition back then when the company went into trouble, and now you can say "we just need 1/4 of the batteries needed for a Tesla Roadster". That´s HUGE. And I want both to invest in your company, and get one of those cars.
I made two videos that show why the cooling system is unworkable, so put your engineer's cap on and tell me in those why I am wrong?
Gone quiet, I see.
Do you have a t shirt with your logo on it? I’d buy it!
I'm actually in the process of setting up a shopify store. I'm waiting to receive a test print so I can assess the print quality. Should be available soon. I will add an update to a video once it's 100% ready to go.
Is it on the stock market?
No, but you still invest in Aptera using Wefunder:
wefunder.com/aptera
There's a new funding round happening sometime this March or April. I will post about it as soon as dates are firm.
Why does it take forever to deliver the car?, when will it be deliver? I as well as other people will start to loose interest, and start looking elsewhere, if it take any longer.
There is still a great deal of work to do after the prototype was finished. The verification vehicles need to be finished to test the various performance edge cases, including skid pad performance, range and HP, temperature range for the HVAC and battery management system. The rest of the vendor partners need to be tied down, including batteries, a heat pump, the self driving system and other items. Delta evaluation vehicles need to be built, fine tuning the production process, and put in the hands of third party reviewers, and made available for test drives for potential customers. Finally crash testing will be done, although it is not legally required. Adjustments in the design may happen at each stage.
In spite of all this, they are still on track to deliver the first production vehicles by the end of the year. This is not slow (although as an early preorder holder, it seems like it) It is actually a very aggressive plan, especially with Covid precautions in effect.
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@@n.brucenelson5920 "In spite of all this, they are still on track to deliver the first production vehicles by the end of the year." Ha ha!
LOLZ... This won't have a market to sell in BTW... You guys need to make your cars 4 passengers PERIOD.
The number of preorders, including mine show that you don't have a clue about the market. Tesla achieved their success with a much more limited design to begin with.
@@n.brucenelson5920 In Europe, cars are taxed by fuel consumption and not by a linear scale. This Will happen to EVs too, so a dedicated commuter vehicle like this, Will be significantly cheaper in a few years, than an electrified SUV. Expect market conditions to change over the next decade as petrol cars are getting banned. We still don't want big vehicles in our city centers.
I think they could redesign the wheel covers, fuse it all to the body with a different more futuristic design and let the wheels turn left and right inside . But I do love the car overall .
I quickly mocked up a drawing of turning from the rear end so there was no extended frontal wind resistance.
You did not really answer "What Does He Know That We Don't".
Thanks for the feedback.
I gave my option on why I think he's bullish on Aptera and I also included a piece from Sandy where he spoke about the the value proposition of Aptera @ 7:18.
Is this in lieu of his consultancy fee? Nothing really substantial?
It was a personal investment that he liquidated a position in Tesla to make - pretty substantial commitment and vote of confidence.
Sandy is very discerning and kind of a perfectionist. I think a lot of people miss this. Why would he move his money out of hard earned cash out of king of EV Tesla and place it into Aptera start-up of all EV projects. Nothing is guaranteed and this is certainly NOT financial advice but I'm betting with Munro; I'm betting on Aptera.
Apologies, I was not in the right frame of mind when I wrote the above.
@@stewartsaunders1838 No worries - none of us are immune from our personal situations, especially at this time. I wish you all the best and am glad you cared enough about this to comment.
Thanks for giving me a chance to say that if I give pushback on some of the comments, I consider that the writers behind them have given me the gift of refining what I think and if I didn't think it was worth replying, I wouldn't spend my time doing so. I learn from every one of you. Thank you!
@@n.brucenelson5920 How much was that? $2?
Autocycles are not direct competitors to automobiles Paradigm is not a direct competitor to Model 3.
Yes and no.
If I have an ICE vehicle that I'm not ready to sell or trade, I might be tempted to buy something like a Model 3 to reduce my carbon footprint but now that a vehicle like Aptera is available, you can choose to keep your ICE vehicle for special circumstances but use your low cost, environmentally friendly Aptera as your daily driver.
@@apterareboot1555 @Aptera Reboot In the 00's there were a few thousand rich folks that cross shopped a Prius and a Lexus LS400, That doesn't make them direct competitors. That there are a handful of uber environmentalist that will cross shop Apterta and Model 3 doesn't make them direct competitors. 99% plus of people shopping Model 3 will not consider an Aptera instead.
@@CMCNestT Yet to be determined, but I believe there will be a lot more than 1% that consider the Aptera. The main question is if you need more seats and Tesla FSD, if you don’t, the Aptera is more cost effective, financially conscious consumers will skew more towards the Aptera. The Model “2” may be a more direct comparison in the future at the lower price point and smaller size.
Sounds convincing in theory but honestly, even though it’s half the cost, it’s actually less than half the car… look at driven wheels, grip in inclement weather, handling performance, passenger capacity, cargo capacity, crash testing, safety requirements, dealer network, dedicated charging infrastructure, etc
It has as many if not more driven wheels than my current car, has more contact with the ground relative to the vehicles weight than my current vehicle, and since every wheel is independently powered by its own motor it should have a much better traction control system. So long as you have a nice set of snow tires my current car handles reasonably well in snow, and I doubt an aptera would do any worse.
another guy who cobbles together a YT to earn referrals towards a free aptera ... next please
I'm sure you're passionate about something else other than hating on strangers. It's so much better to be a creator than a hater. Try it. It feels nice.
I wish you well.