I have three old dimensions from this era '02/'03. All three have working floppy disk drives and I've only ever used them to tinker with. One system had a card I later determined to be some flavor of GeForce 3 (likely a ti500) tied via ribbon cable to a card I'm thinking is some sort of 2D accelerator. This is based on very quick Google searches and the fact that the main GPU card had green head sinks and an adorably tiny Nvidia branded fan.
I spent way too much money on an Nividia FX PCI card way back when it was new. The AGP version was actually good but mine....I ended up rebuilding right after that. I was so mad. I didn't know at the time just how much even an AGP 4x made. Never bought another OEM again actually. Only custom builds by me after
at least the case is cool. i'd gut it and replace the motherboard completely. the 845 and 865 chipsets with an agp slot are actually great for W98 and early XP.
I am thinking the same thing. I have a Dell 7010 sff motherboard with third gen I 7. And a Dell P4 similar to the one shown with a bad motherboard. I like the idea of the ability to use full size cards, which I would not be able to if I used the sff case. The problem is, both Dells have the stand offs in unconventional places and not the same places. I suppose a bit of metal cutting, drilling, tapping and brazing work might get it lined up. Some of these use tower cases use slots to mount the motherboards, not even screws and standoffs. They mount to a tray which is specific to the motherboard. and the tray in turn mounts to the inside of the case.
I've always wondered if that would be possible on these kinds of boards. I'm sure it's not as a simple as just soldering in a connector, but someone who is smart enough could probably figure it out.
@MeteoraKrash I could be wrong, but I think the iGPU is hooked up using AGP. So the chipset might support it internally, but it might just not have any way to hook up an external device to the AGP bus.
See what at 3.0 Pentium or better yet a Pentium D dual core. I think you will see at least triple the performance. Frankly, I would still be using Pentium D computers if they hadn't died (actually my favorite came back to life ).
A PCI FX 5200 will still go for at least $35 on average on eBay. And most of those are probably going to be heavily cut down 64 bit cards. You might as well get a 6200 if you're gonna spend that much.
You obviously did not buy these machines new, like an older person, like myself. You expect too much from too little. 60FPS is perfect, considering modern movies still show 30FPS when videoed, just up-scaled.
I’m not criticizing the fact that it couldn’t achieve higher than 60 FPS. I was criticizing it that it couldn’t achieve more in games that were 4+ years old at the time of this computer’s relevancy. As well as criticizing the fact that decent for this time period, PCI cards are too expensive to warrant putting in such a sub par machine. Also not sure why you’d even bring up movies. That’s a completely different subject where reaction times and input latency don’t matter. Also, were you thinking of TV? Because most movies are still being ran at 24 FPS…
@@NTGTechnology Because YOU mentioned frame rates in YOUR video and VERY, VERY few movies have been shot on film since 2010. When you select an option to play a video at 60fps from TH-cam, that means your watching 60fps, because it was shot, filed, recorded at 60fps, NOT 24fps(unless up-scaled). Hence why some HD movies and TH-cam videos look like garbage. Also the more expensive components from that computer were switched-out with cheaper components before you bought that computer.
@@christophero1969 Video games are better with higher frame rates because there’s interactivity. More frames = more responsive feeling game. I don’t know why you keep bringing video and movies into this, because it’s not relevant to the topic at all. I’d also love to see the evidence that this machine had “better hardware” and it was swapped out before it was given to me. You might want to Google what this machine actually is first. The RAM is the only thing I might’ve gotten wrong, but there’s places that say these were configurable with 256 MB.
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You know it's gonna be a good video when it starts from the floor
A 1200W PSU in a retro system 😀
I upgraded the board in my 2400 to a board from a 3200? To get an AGP slot. Works great for windows 98 gaming.
I have three old dimensions from this era '02/'03. All three have working floppy disk drives and I've only ever used them to tinker with. One system had a card I later determined to be some flavor of GeForce 3 (likely a ti500) tied via ribbon cable to a card I'm thinking is some sort of 2D accelerator. This is based on very quick Google searches and the fact that the main GPU card had green head sinks and an adorably tiny Nvidia branded fan.
I spent way too much money on an Nividia FX PCI card way back when it was new. The AGP version was actually good but mine....I ended up rebuilding right after that. I was so mad. I didn't know at the time just how much even an AGP 4x made.
Never bought another OEM again actually. Only custom builds by me after
100% my spidey sense says i have encountered this.
You could use this with xp, lake sure you have a floppy drive in it, and use it as a bridge machine
at least the case is cool. i'd gut it and replace the motherboard completely. the 845 and 865 chipsets with an agp slot are actually great for W98 and early XP.
I am thinking the same thing. I have a Dell 7010 sff motherboard with third gen I 7. And a Dell P4 similar to the one shown with a bad motherboard. I like the idea of the ability to use full size cards, which I would not be able to if I used the sff case.
The problem is, both Dells have the stand offs in unconventional places and not the same places. I suppose a bit of metal cutting, drilling, tapping and brazing work might get it lined up. Some of these use tower cases use slots to mount the motherboards, not even screws and standoffs. They mount to a tray which is specific to the motherboard. and the tray in turn mounts to the inside of the case.
am not sure about the motherboard, but what if you solder agp slot on the empty agp solder points? future video project maybe :D
I've always wondered if that would be possible on these kinds of boards. I'm sure it's not as a simple as just soldering in a connector, but someone who is smart enough could probably figure it out.
@@NTGTechnology hehe yes me too :D ture might be for the most boards it wont work, there might exist some bords it can work on i think/hope hehe :D
@MeteoraKrash I could be wrong, but I think the iGPU is hooked up using AGP. So the chipset might support it internally, but it might just not have any way to hook up an external device to the AGP bus.
See what at 3.0 Pentium or better yet a Pentium D dual core. I think you will see at least triple the performance. Frankly, I would still be using Pentium D computers if they hadn't died (actually my favorite came back to life ).
Did this problem exist in Windows Me?(ACPI BIOS)
I didn't try ME because the installer wouldn't even load properly. Not sure if it was the same cause or something else entirely.
Just Get Fx5200
fx5200 Also Have PCI Version
A PCI FX 5200 will still go for at least $35 on average on eBay. And most of those are probably going to be heavily cut down 64 bit cards. You might as well get a 6200 if you're gonna spend that much.
@@NTGTechnology It is difficult to find 6200 in my country (Iran).
Even FX5600 Or Ti 4200 AGP
And finaly finded 6200
You obviously did not buy these machines new, like an older person, like myself. You expect too much from too little. 60FPS is perfect, considering modern movies still show 30FPS when videoed, just up-scaled.
I’m not criticizing the fact that it couldn’t achieve higher than 60 FPS. I was criticizing it that it couldn’t achieve more in games that were 4+ years old at the time of this computer’s relevancy. As well as criticizing the fact that decent for this time period, PCI cards are too expensive to warrant putting in such a sub par machine.
Also not sure why you’d even bring up movies. That’s a completely different subject where reaction times and input latency don’t matter. Also, were you thinking of TV? Because most movies are still being ran at 24 FPS…
@@NTGTechnology Because YOU mentioned frame rates in YOUR video and VERY, VERY few movies have been shot on film since 2010. When you select an option to play a video at 60fps from TH-cam, that means your watching 60fps, because it was shot, filed, recorded at 60fps, NOT 24fps(unless up-scaled). Hence why some HD movies and TH-cam videos look like garbage. Also the more expensive components from that computer were switched-out with cheaper components before you bought that computer.
@@christophero1969 Video games are better with higher frame rates because there’s interactivity. More frames = more responsive feeling game. I don’t know why you keep bringing video and movies into this, because it’s not relevant to the topic at all.
I’d also love to see the evidence that this machine had “better hardware” and it was swapped out before it was given to me. You might want to Google what this machine actually is first. The RAM is the only thing I might’ve gotten wrong, but there’s places that say these were configurable with 256 MB.