Is Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance REALLY That Good?!
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Marty where’s the starfield videos?! I need it
yeah no when u do ads like this it shows u really dont enjoy the game your just a paid shill
@@whitefox25he literally said that the base version was one of his favorite games of 2021, and he has both the steelbook and collectors editions
“Is it really that good?” YES! YES! YES! YES! I’m loving it so far
90h still playing and not bored. Still have the last level and all the sub bosses to do. Been playing on Hard
The other...sorta nice?...thing about Aogami, is how he'll let you go, when you're talking to him in the Haunts (for you Persona 5 types, think Safe Rooms). Unlike in, say, SMT 3, where your character is human for, what, all of about ten minutes?, and essentially never gets that back, here, you still get to be "you" for a few quiet moments here and there. It definitely changes the tone, in both a small and a significant way.
Agreed! Also I played SMTV and then went into Vengeance without knowing anything about what was new. Then a character handed me a Menorah and PTSD ensued
Different themes.
Biggest selling point of this game is that's finally out of the cage that is the Switch hardware. Buttery smooth frame rate at 4k. Let's go.
With a hacked Switch it's fixed.
720p with no dynamic resolution and runs at locked 30fps no matter where for only 15 minutes less battery :)
Steam deck FTW
Game probably looks great on Xbox/PS5
@@cleangoblin2021Yeah but then you have to play it on a Switch lol no thanks
I agree: if Nintendo wants to be lazy with its hardware development I wish they’d just become a third party game developer
I trade in my original copy for the Vengeance version. So I got it for $10.
Where did you get that deal?
@@mulatdood Gamestop
Yes. It's that good. We are so back!
The answer is yes. Yes it is
This channel has slowly but surely becoming a daily watch for me, thanks for your work. I’ll be playing this game for sure.
I’m waiting for a sale because i already bought the original and i’m not paying full price for this again
😂😂😂
Same here even though I really want that steelbook 😅
Held off this long to buy it so I didn't have to play it on the Shitch. Especially after playing something like P4G in 4K and 60+ FPS on the X, I can't go back
for real, no upgrade path either so you have to double dip on mostly the same game. altus does this so much i’m gonna have to wait for the full version of persona 6 before i pick it up
Well, it's not again, it's a new route, and qol changes.
Unless you only have a broke ass switch, then don't buy it. The performance on that isn't worth full price.
Long time SMT fan. I bought OG Persona 3 when it came out at launch and immediately bought SMTIII Nocturne a little bit afterwards. I've been on the SMT and Persona bandwagon for awhile as Atlus games were synonymous with niche but great games, mostly RPGs.
One of my first games ever was Snow Brothers on the OG Gameboy. I played the crap out of that game when I was 5. Man it's crazy to see how far this series has come. Hell I can't believe Persona is as big as it now. My main complaint is Atlus and their DLC. I kinda miss the pre Sega era.
I'm so pumped for this game I'm purchasing a PS5 just to play it.
As a complete noob to these series where should I start? I just downloaded persona 5 Royal on my ps5 might check this one out after
@@krispybowgod9656 persona 5 royal is perfect. If you like that, it'll be a great gateway to SMT and other Persona games.
You're going to need a ridiculous amount of time to fully soak up P5R. New Game+ is just about required to unlock everything. And you'll love every minute of it.
For SMTVV, depending on your choices, there are potentially four unique experiences, not just two: Creation/Law, Creation/Chaos, Vengeance/Law, and Vengeance/Chaos.
So, yeah, lots and LOTS to see and do in SMTV: Vengeance, as well, and a Compendium that makes P5R's look pint-sized by comparison.
It runs, feels, and looks like the game went from early PS3/X360 to 2024 PS5/XSX release. Its awesome! Also shows, we needed that new Switch a while ago 😅
I lucked out and was able to buy smt5 for like 30 bucks near launch, and heard they were making this early last year, so i was able to sell my copy for $25, so i barely lost any money on it. I'm still gonna wait for a sale. I love the game, was very tempted to buy at full price, but the backlog is just so full, i cant imagine paying full price for a game i already beat just to continue ignoring my many other games.
I've never played an SMT game, but i love the persona series, i just bought the game, and I can't wait to play it later today
You'll love it :D
I’m playing this game on my tablet at 120fps, no latency, crystal clear, no frame drops streaming it from my PC. Man this game on PC with more than 30 fps is a life changer. The running and battle system is so much more responsive too.
May I ask what app you use to stream from PC to tablet?
@@Asian_Import Parsec. You need to use Ethernet on your PC and at least a 5Ghz wifi connection for your tablet otherwise it’s not going to look and feel smooth. Having good PC hardware helps too. If you’re running it at 120 FPS from your PC you’ll need a tablet that supports it. If the image quality isn’t clear try 1080p instead of 1440p since it does use more bandwidth if it’s not as stable.
Best to run it from home. Outside of the house you’ll see more latency.
@@NatzawaUsing Moonlight via Sunshine could be a good idea too.
Moonlight and Sunshine are completely local, no need to register to anything and it's more customizable than Parsec. There's no double monitors and pen input tho.
I've not played it this version yet, but SMTV original on PS5 for the smooth frame rate is worth it alone.
I remember picking up SMT5 when it released and poured 80+ hrs into it before finishing it .Absolutely loved my experience and i won't mind double dipping with more on the PS5 🔥
Dude! I have the original on the NSW and i remember thinking this would be so awesome as a 60fps experience. They heard my prayers and gave it more content. I gotta get the updates version soon.
In the game store looking at stellar blade & rise of the ronin then for some reason I pick up shin megami liked the box art & thought I’d take a pop on a series I’ve never played. I love JRPG games , looking forward to sinking my teeth into my first shin megami game.
You’re in for something a lot different than any other JRPG! Don’t forget starting off: don’t try to fight all the demons. Make sure you talk to them and recruit as many as you can. Number one mistake I see new players make is trying to fight too much at the start
@@304Blaise thanks for the heads up 👍
I really liked the vanilla game but vengeance blows it out of the water. I bought on ps5 tho, the extra items and demon compendium not worth getting on switch again
That’s wild, I thought I was the only one, I just got a puppy right when smt5 came out and she chewed on the corner of the box right next to me, luckily she only got a few puncture holes, no massive tear like that😂
Which Canon would you suggest for a newbie to the game? I'm more interested in the Canon of Vengeance from what I've seen, but would I miss out by not playing the original.
No I think you'd be good man. I beat Canon of Creation and it's cool but I'd do vengeance.
Go for new one. The old one for the one who want to experience it. ( later in ya want )
You need context from Creation otherwise details in Vengeance will make no sense
While you’d probably enjoy vengeance more after experiencing creation as it has some details that won’t be elaborated on in vengeance, considering that each one is easily 80 hours, and you don’t have time to do both, vengeance is probably recommended. The story is just better executed. Creation isn’t bad, but it falls short in a lot of areas where it could have been great
While the characters and second half of the story kinda sucked in Canon of Creation, it provides you the general idea what MegaTen game (minus Hashino's Persona 3, 4 and 5) really is; to fight, strive and go with the reasoning/alignment you deem best fit for the world you want to create. So, if possible I suggest you to start with Canon of Creation first since any one of the four ending routes will introduce you to the mandala system, which is the never ending cycle of the world. The very core idea of CoC is that the world is in constant of loop cycle where it needs someone to reach a certain point and breaks the loop--> which is the Canon of Vengeance story/worldline. You could enjoy Vengeance route more if you know or aware of the context of CoC worldline. Vengeance storyline diverged from CoC pretty much after the first part (first 15-20 hours) of the game.
But if you don't have time to play both, Canon of Vengeance is probably the recommended one since you get to experience the new character Yoko Hiromine and use any of the human ally characters as temporary guest characters in certain points of the game. Then again, you will be losing some minor context or details when you get to the alignment stuff that happen throughout the game.
Having a blast on my steamdeck, and no more eye sickness from blurry 30fps
Is this like persona where you can play each one separately and they have their own stories?
Correct, the stories are not related at all with previous entries.
If they don't share the number in the entry, SMT IV and IV: Apocalypse are connected
Yes they are stand alone stories outside of SMT 1+2 as well as SMT IV+IV Apocalypse but they all follow a similar premise Tokyo gets destroyed, Demons take over and multiple factions vie for control to reshape the new world
There are some connections to SMT3 Nocturne in SMTV but they’re kinda minimal so overall they are pretty self contained stories.
Correct. There are a few sequels but for the most part, the stories are unrelated
i know the story of og smt v was divisive, but as someone who read a ton of mythology with abstract details, playing smt v felt like an epic creation story. cant wait to experience the new story content
it's crazy to think that SMT pre-dates pokémon by nearly a decade
Yeah because smt is behind it.
And Pokémon is way better.
Does it? I thought it was around the same time.
@@lustbubo4638lol pokemon is too easy.
@@AcidxAnarchy Pokemon has battle facilities so "lol" not really.
Kinda random, but I think I'm going to buy a physical copy for Xbox just because I think it'll be rare in the future.
I don't have an Xbox, but JRPGs that get a small print run + physical copy + on the least popular console usually equals very rare in the future
so glad to see matty figure out SMT IV apocalypse is a sequel lmfao
The game being on PC definitely makes it so much better for me now. I don’t mind losing my 100% from the original on switch but playing on hard mode and having the game run well on my PC is bliss.
Your Dog has great taste! 😂 🐕 🎮 ❤️
Whos here after the garbage ign review?
Meeee that review rlly was awful 😂
I neeeeed that Avowed video
I haven’t watched even a second of your video because I’m at work but I wanted comment and say, yes, SMT V VENGEANCE is an incredible game. It has changed substantially enough to where you can easily justify buying it even if you’ve played the original. One of the best games in the series by far.
I think the only bad thing about smt 5 was that i was launched on the switch, now thats on better hardware it can run properly and they added a lot of goodies.
Yeah Atlus got really lucky the fanbase pulled V through. Otherwise it wouldve been dead on arrival trapped on that shitty system.
I would of been so pissed at the dog he would of went straight to the cathedral of shadows to get fused
That would be a SMT1 moment
This re release is incredible. And I can’t imagine the game without Yoko being a big part
I got vanilla for like $20 clearance at Walmart as a random purchase.. spent about 90 hours messing around with it… so buying this full price just felt right. Hopefully I get another 90 out of it
When Persona finally came to Xbox I thought it was cool to see that game appear on the platform but all I wanted was a mainline SMT game ported since they appeal to me more (I really enjoyed Nocturne on the PS2). Eventually it was announced for all platforms and my hype was through the roof. I preordered SMTV:V and have been playing it with all my free time.
This is my favorite SMT game. So glad more people get to play it. I loved it on switch
I’m playing the base story again on Vengeance and I’m enjoying the little add ons they introduced so far.
Although i hate to possibly miss out on the steelbook, I'll get it sometime down the road. If it's like the original, it'll probably be half price by spring.
I mean, it's okay so far. I feel like I'm just wandering around fighting random enemies for no particular reason with a bunch of characters I have no reason to care about. Wikipedia says the reception was "generally positive" back when it first released, which sounds about right to me. There's a magic to the JRPGs of yesteryear that we're struggling to get back.
It is a bit of a slow burn. The ticklish part about the opening area leading up to Tokyo Tower, is that it's got to be open world enough to give you a sense of isolation, and get you into the basic mindset of looking absolutely everywhere, while at the same time feeding you all the important stuff you'll need to survive your first boss fight, and making sure you miss none of the same.
If in doubt, head over to a Haunt and chat with your team. Some of the stuff you'll get from them, can be thought provoking, funny, or just flat out endearing. Early on, Cait Sith and Neko Shogun are standouts here.
Couldn’t agree more. Persona blows SMT out of the water. No idea how SMT is popular
SMT is popular because of the gameplay loop and actually challenging (until lategame skills break the game open) and not everybody likes playing Dating Sims @Ristofec
Yes
Playing it on my Rog Ally, beat it on switch back then. Such a TREMENDOUS improvement! Graphics and unlimited fps performance!!
switch means i get to bring it with me
@@youtubeisracistxyeah, and switch lite is much portable than deck or ally
@@orangetulipmoment question, what is ally??
Should I play on causal? I don’t wanna make it too easy but I don’t want it to be painfully hard
SMT is the Dark Souls of JRPG's BUT there are multiple difficulties so you can cater your experience. Playing on Hard can be absolutely soul crushing
How many difficulties are there and do u get a trophy for beating the game on hard
So my favorite rpg franchises - SMT/Persona, Final Fantasy, and Dragon Age. All that to say, 2024 is my dream come true. I cannot believe major releases in every franchise are coming out this year. I’m so spoiled I love it
oof. rip Dragon Age.
@@isturbo1984 Bro new dragon age just drop what you mean "rip"?
@@kira516 I mean go look at the like/dislike ratio in the official videos and read the comments.dont take my word for it. even Matty himself did a video recently saying "this aint it." son, what do you mean what do you mean?
It's two games in one, where the older game has been updated with a good portion of new stuff and Quality of Life changes. So far its amazing.
And its GORGEOUS in 4k ❤❤❤❤
YES! Bought it full price, cant stop playing.
Now that you've fallen in love with the smt side, make sure to check out smt3, if I'm brutally honest five managed to top three, but three is still amazing, and in fact there are several Easter eggs that reference three. Three has been my all time favorite video game- until now, five was already better, but vengeance just takes the cake and finally locks five over three... but I'll always have the nostalgia for three...
Atlus is going insane this year!!!
Good breakdown, thanks dude 🙏
My first time playing this series, its amazing. Coming from a recently (start the game but never actually sit down and play it) drought. This has been very addicting and FUN to play
This game on PS5 looks beautiful and runs 60fps silky smooth. I rly love this game and I do think it's worth the buy with the added features.
This is almost in similarity. What happened with Monster Hunter rise when it got released out of the prison? That is Nintendo switch and it got sent out to Xbox, PC and Playstation. It's night and day difference. Much improvement performance visually thankfully for Game Pass. I was able to play it at 4K on my monitor and everything but when they came to steam and it had a sale on it, I actually bought it from my steam deck OLED and I'm playing it at 90 HZ on that beautiful OLED screen with HDR on and it's just fantastic. And now with this game even though I was tempted to get it from my Xbox series X I had it to get it for my steam deck OLED and it's another night and day improvement over the original Nintendo switch. I could never even go back to that version cuz I can't go back to 30 frames or those low resolution textures. Everything flows everything is better and plus all the spice of Life quality of life improvements they did.
This is one of those games that the fan base LOVES but I just dont understand why when I play it.
I'm just gonna play on the easiest mode like I started to on the switch version lol
Would love to see you cover some of the lesser know atlas games from the 360 era such as the cursed crusade and others like it
I’m not familiar with this franchise, but I immediately loved this game. Definitely reminded me of the old school turn based mixed with a Bethesda game. Absolutely love it so far. 8.5/10.
The changes in this game are def a definitive vibe loving it so far
Hey Matty great vid. If you never played SMTV, would you recommend one path or the other for your first run? Keep it up and stand down!!!
The only SMT game I've played is Devil Survivor Overclocked - and I really enjoy it, I think I might try a mainline SMT game next (IV or IV Apocalypse) and then Vengeance maybe once it's gone on sale a bit.
9:25 that pop in though 😂
Is this complete on disc with the Xbox version? Series X version specifically.
Yes 👍 I confirmed it myself. I put the console in offline mode and the disc installed the Series X version.
@@Nemisish Great to hear! I not just pick up this version then. Thanks!
As much as i would like the bonuses for having the original, i just cant pass up the performance and graphical boost ya get from going PC (Plus with a steam deck it does also give a on the go option that would still look better than the switch).
Your dog being named Revan is elite sir 🫡
I'm really hoping I can get into it. It'll be my first SMT Game.
This game is so good!
Admittedly, I enjoy Persona more, but that's mainly due to the many characters & social side.
But I much prefer SMT's more serious tone & deeper mechanics. So happy this game came to PC so I can play at a better frame rate.
I’m a 36 year old who loved JRPGs in my youth and recently have the itch again after FF7 rebirth. There are so many series I know nothing about such as this one and the persona series. Are they made by the same team? I just started persona 5 Royal and am considering this game next
Hey hope you're enjoying P5R! Just wanted to say that like Square Enix, Atlus have multiple divisions working on different titles, so I wanted to help break it down for you since it can be a little confusing.
There are 3 primary development studios at Atlus. SMT Vengeance was made by Team Maniax, who handle Mainline Shin Megami Tensei and a smaller series known as Etrian Odyssey, and the current Persona team is P-Studio (SMT came first, and Persona is a spin off of SMT); P-Studio is currently comprised of newer developers who previously worked on the major rereleases, P4 Golden and P5 Royal, worked on P3 Reload, and they are currently developing their first full Persona game, Persona 6. The old guard have branched off of P-Studio to make a 3rd primary development team, which was established in 2016 to make a brand new IP for Atlus known as Metaphor ReFantazio; these were the people that developed SMT Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, Persona 3 through 5, and Catherine, which are some of Atlus's biggest and most successful titles.
@@tbnwontpop8857 thanks so much for the info! I’m really excited for Metaphor as well
Play persona 4 and then persona 3 reload next. This game is trash and everybody acts like it's not weird that the main character is a femboy😊
@@lustbubo4638💀
Well, I'm having a hard time to stop playing. And no, no stuttering or crashes.
You have to mess with the gameusersettings ini file to turn off dynamic resolution, though. And disable read-only before you edit, save changes and then enable read-only again. Otherwise the game will just revert your changes.
Need something to hold me over until Metaphor launches. Looks like I found it!!
I have the original that I didn’t get around to playing.
I want my first play through to be the best, so which version is good for the first time?
My first smt game and im trying hardest difficulty
So , am I best to play the original game first to enjoy Vengence properly ? or I can jump into Vengence directly ?
That's funny, Matty.. Revan is my sons name.. He's almost a year old.
Shouldn't even be a question... So far the best SMT game I've ever bought. Completely overshadows trash like P3R even though it's also a new game that just came out a while ago.
Oh no the dog biting off the corner xD
Yes, it is
Now i’m playing it on my series X and it’s PERFECT!!!
Sweet dreams are made of these, everybody's looking for something.
Does no one understand how waiting for a sale instead of showing you want more of this kind of game in the future by buying it at release affects actually getting this kind of game in the future?
Got this for switch but i rarely ever get myself to play on the system, might grab it for ps5 and finally playthrough it when im in the mood for another jrog tho ^^
So never played the og version of this, should I play Cannon of Vengence or the original Cannon one
If you have unlimited time - original and then vengeance cause there is some little details that you wouldn't get it and secret superboss in second walkthrough. If not, only vengeance
Don’t let a TH-camr tell you if it’s worth it go get a copy and find out for yourself! Get the experience for you!! 💪🕹️
Starting to see why Persona is the spin off. SMTV vibes so much more with me than Persona. Love the mix of open world and turn based and even just the demons feeling like they have personality. So insane to me SMT is on Xbox now and it runs so well.
If you didn’t already have smt5, then Vengeance will be a fine title. If you ALREADY have 5, then I feel like Vengeance is waiting for a sale.
I remember when SMT V was announced on the Nintendo Direct and I lost my shit. I saw the trailer and I got so excited and wanted to share my excitement on the internet, only to find out that the consensus of the internet was that this was the worst Nintendo direct by far. It really broke my heart
never played a smt ot persona game before. should I start with the base or vengeance?
Vengeance is the better version, you can play the og storyline too with a starting choice
More interested in hearing about performance improvements on anything but the Switch
I liked the game but mid way it felt like a slog. One day I’ll finish it off
I love my switch, but certain games are being held back by it imo. Xenoblade series is probably my favourite series and what monolith have managed to do on the switch is incredible, buuuuut I can't help wondering what the xeno games would be like if not constrained by weak tech. Was the same with SMTV
Yes, Im loving this game so far.
? For people who have played original in gunna prolly buy it cuz higher frame rate since I did play it on switch, is the original story just the original story or did they only change story only in vengeance? I never beat original cuz frame rate drove me crazy but got to the end basically wasn’t sure if it was worth replaying all that or just vengeance stuff
Matty. Interested in my unopened copy of SMT Devil Summoner for PS2?
edit: oops. devil summoner. not noctourne. had to double check.
The amount of times I got one shotted in this game....
Big deal for me not playing at blurry 20fps with frame drops. Booted this up on my switch on release and said nope. Now playing on pc. Even runs like butter on steam deck.
Does the cannon of vengeance include the base game and the new content? Or is it just new content?😊
The game has both stories. Canon of vengeance starts the same, but it then becomes it's own thing
@@rohanrodrigues7115 do I have to complete both paths in order to experience all of the content?
@@midnightdti believe so yeah.
I was also told that doing a specific ending in the Creation route first unlocks something In Vengeance Route ng+ but im not 100% sure about it.
@midnightdt it depends on you honestly. Each story will be about 80 hours long, so if you want to do one story only, you can. Some people will tell you the original story is not that good, and maybe tge new vengeance one will be better, but it just depends on your preference
This was my first persona game, and I did really enjoy it! I didn't know that my first choice was two games, so im going to go back and not take her hand. I did feel like I was playing a blue hair transsexual most of the time, and fusion options from lv78-90 were less exciting. Overall, I'm now a persona fan. Demon Haunt was super annoying, in my opinion. I stopped going.
Yes even if you already own it. A lot more extra content
It plays amazing on the steam deck, huge difference of the Nintendo Switch version.
I just bought Vengeance, but im wondering if i should play on Hard Mode like i did with the original game or play safe on Normal?
If you already played hard before then hard mode shouldn’t be much of an issue. The charm overall of the game is the trials and errors you make and being able to defeat a boss through the efforts of info you got and how to deal with them. That’s not me saying one shouldn’t play on normal or safety, but I think hard mode brings a great overall experience for new and older players.
@Plotpurotto thanks! I did in fact decided on hard mode. It's going pretty well so far, I haven't had a difficult time through the bosses at all. I'm actually really happy I don't have to fight Lahmu twice because he was the most annoying boss to fight in the original, but in Vengeance I took him down in 1 try. Besides the overworld bosses, nothing really has been giving me a hard time to do.