I live in Reno and I actually remember this event. I watched the football game knowing full well that Channel 8 could pull the plug at any moment. I'm glad the network stuck with the football game. I know the World Series is always a huge deal but we have priorities.
Postseason baseball always outprioritizes regular season football, just as postseason football always outprioritizes regular season basketball & hockey, and postseason basketball & hockey always outprioritizes regular season baseball.
This reminds me of when NBC had to cut away from a Sunday afternoon NFL game in overtime...to air its Sunday national news, 30 minutes before it aired a World Series game. If you're taking requests about strange TV broadcasts, here's one: the NCAA men's basketball tournament game that CBS moved to another channel (Temple-Santa Clara, 1993 second round).
Speaking of strange broadcasts, another strange one was during the 1994 World Cup when Spain vs South Korea was moved to ESPN2 (it was originally going to be on ESPN) so that ESPN could cover the infamous OJ Simpson car chase on the freeways of LA.
I would have tohught that NBC's NFL contract would have prevented them from cut away from a Sunday afternoon NFL game in overtime...to air its Sunday national news, 30 minutes before it aired a World Series game.
5:59 -- They DID win the World Series in 1957 in Milwaukee and 1914 in Boston. 6:07 -- No sir, they were in the World Series in 1991 and 1992. As a matter of fact, there were those at the time who thought the Braves would end up being the "Buffalo Bills of Baseball" if they didn't finish the job in 1995.
Yeah they are the only MLB team to my knowledge to have won a World Series in every city they played. Boston Milwaukee and Atlanta. In fact they later won the 2021 World Series as well. Giving them 4 currently.
This sort of reminds me of a time in kansas city where the local CBS station had to decide between airing the NCAA tournament games of KU and Missouri. Both had games roughly the same time. Not a big deal today with multiple stations but back in the 90's only CBS could air the games.
This game reminds me of the 1994 Pitt West Virginia game that has a similar finish. You should do a video on this game. This game was famous for Pitt's public address announcer making jokes about West Virginia fans.
This is kind of nothing when it comes to Channel 8, and also the broadcast of the World Series in Nevada. For KOLO, I was told when I went to UNR that the station’s lead news anchor, had suffered a heart attack ON AIR. Totally hearsay, obviously, but still a wild story. But when it comes to the World Series, in the ‘70s, KORK (now KSNV) in Las Vegas got in the habit of pre-empting a lot of NBC’s programming. The straw that broke the camel’s back with the public and the network was KORK pre-empting the 1977 World Series, which involved the Dodgers, who had and still have a substantial fan base in town. The owners of the station (who were also the owners of the Review-Journal, Vegas’s biggest newspaper), were forced to sell.
"...which isn't even the official MLB record." Tell that to the people who legitimately dismiss McGwire, Sosa, and especially Bonds on the account of steroid use.
I think the callers were just part of the vocal minority. It was their local team and it was a close game, so I think more people in Reno cared more about their college football team. There just wasn't a reason for them to call the station. I agree with their decision.
It looked like the local station was producing the broadcast. I don't think it was an ABC regional game that the local station picked up. That probably played a factor in the decision. Also, I would assume the angry callers are much more likely to call the station than the supportive fans.
Greg Maddux did win the Cy Young Award in 1995. His fourth straight. But he didn’t officially win it until November 1995. So technically, he only had three Cy Young Awards when the 1995 World Series began.
I'm curious about this national/regional split screen thing. In 1991, ABC broadcast a Penn State-Miami game (10/12) and cut away for the Clarence Thomas hearings. Not only did WPLG in Miami do a split screen to show the game from the wild feed still coming out of the Orange Bowl with Jon Frankel doing his best to do a play-by-play from the WPLG newsroom, they were eventually able to get the WIOD radio broadcast as the audio since they didn't have ABC network audio. Just curious if you could do some research into why WPLG could get away with that, but this channel could not.
If you're doing a video on the Wolf Pack, you really should do one on the largest-and one of the most forgotten-comebacks in the history of football: Nevada's 55-49 win over Weber State in 1991, where the Wolf Pack overcame a 42-7 deficit to somehow win the game.
A correction at the 6:15 mark. Fox did not have Major League Baseball broadcasting rights in 1995, so they wouldn't have aired any portion of the World Series that year. The 1995 World Series was shared by ABC (who had Games 1, 4-5, and 7 if necessary) and NBC (who had Games 2-3, and 6). 1995 was the first and only year that the World Series was broadcast by The Baseball Network, which was a revenue-sharing consortium between MLB, ABC, and NBC.
That is correct. It was done that way because FOX took over most of the baseball rights the following year, including the World Series. It was done the way it was due to the strike wiping out the playoffs a year earlier.
This might happen again on December 18th with Fox, FIFA & the NFL as the World Cup Final takes place that day before the day's NFL games on Fox. If the World Cup Final goes to overtime or penalty kicks, the start of the 1 PM ET NFL games on Fox will not be shown because there is no way that Fox will move the biggest & most watched sporting event on the planet to FS1.
@@bhratbrat not sure about that, FIFA would be super pissed if they were upstaged by the NFL & would likely strip Fox from broadcasting the 2026 World Cup (which is being held in the US) costing Fox billions of dollars in revenue. Fox needs that World Cup money in order to keep the rights for the NFL & especially the Big Ten when the time comes to renew those rights.
Nothing but an educated guess I imagine they'd split what gets moved by market. Green Bay plays at that time theyd throw a fit if something like Croatia vs France was on instead lmao. But showing it on Fox in say Pittsburgh while they play on CBS seems a no brainer. World cup final and cumulative 1pm fox games looks like a ratings wash Obviously that's assuming there's nothing in the contracts where one can't be pushed or something. Is kind of interesting though
@@brandynhenry7107 well at least Fox has a sister channel if they can't show the game on Fox they could probably show the game on Antenna TV like they did with some MLB games here in California because of the Rams preseason games. That's one option.
Yeah, I think the kick off would be 10 a.m. and normal game would end at noon or a little after, overtime would get close to 12:45 p.m., and PKs would cause an overlap. So my guess is that FOX will buy off the FIFA referee crew to get the game finished by noon, just kidding (or am I?), I think all the games that will aired on FOX will probably have a start time of 1:10 or 1:15pm.
WABC-TV (channel 7) aired Game 1 of the 1995 World Series, and both New York teams, the Yankees and Mets are out for the rest of the season, no broadcast controversies there.
WOW. And this was the year before overtime. Nevada could've conceivably kicked a field goal and went to overtime had it been in effect and the viewers could've missed even MORE of the World Series.
oh, btw: orel isn't just the first player to win both lcs awards, he's still the only player to do it (and one of only 2 players to win the award twice, regardless of league, the other being dave stewart, who did it in 1989 with oakland, 1993 with the blue jays)
This situation is very much understandable. As the region's network exec, you wanted to make local fans of the Nevada Wolf Pack happy by sticking to a game that meant quite a bit in their college football regular season. You chose to air Nevada football, so you should stick with it. To be honest, MLB is becoming less and less of a big deal by the day, including the World Series. Yes, MLB still meant something back in 1995, but if this same scenario played out today in 2022, I doubt many fans would be as upset. (MLB today is a big joke with their many problems...)
Yep the steroid era of the MLB will always haunt the league. Plus the ratings for the World Series aren't there anyways. They've been going down every year.
@@donaldpaluga Exactly. The only reason the NFL has excellent ratings and viewership is 1 word. Legalized Gambling. And back to the World Series. Even with them only getting about 1/3 of their TV viewership from their heyday in the 1970's and 80's, the MLB World Series is still among the most watched events in America every year NON-NFL/College Football. Without the World Series here in the early 2020's Fox outside of the NFL would in deep trouble. Fox has awful ratings for their non sports entertainment shows as well. A far cry from the Y2k when they smash hits such as American Idol and 24. So the lack of a hit show is probably the main reason, Fox just signed a recent record 10 year extension to be the exclusive American TV home of the World Series until at least the 2029 World Series.
Something similar happened in 2007 when Barry Bonds was on the cusp of breaking Hank Aaron's homerun record. Every time Bonds was at bat, ESPN, would interrupt whatever was on to show a potential milestone. That though is different, that is a historic milestone and it also occurred in the month of August, before the start of the college and NFL football seasons.
The vast majority of complaints shouldn't be shocking. Not many call companies to say good job. Another thing is that Greg Maddux is from Nevada. He wasn't born in Nevada but has lived most of his life there.
It was a part of the "Baseball Network" with ABC and NBC as partners. Only lasted from 1994 to 1995. Both ABC and NBC covered the 95' World Series because the 94' World Series was cancelled by the strike!
I wanna forget that The Baseball Network ever existed. I hated its format with a passion, especially in the playoffs. I'm in Florida, but I was unable to watch the Marlins play at the Giants on a Friday night in 1995 because The Baseball Network determined that the 1st pitch time (shortly after 11 p.m. EDT/8 p.m. PDT) wasn't appropriate for my time zone (Eastern). If there was a way to make CBS' MLB coverage look good by comparison, The Baseball Network did it.
@@marcus813 yeah people still love the MLB in NBC theme song though. I still don't want TBS covering anything baseball related it just doesn't make sense to me. Might as well give some playoff tv rights to NBC.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld Not happening if ever again. MLB this past 2022 season just signed 8-10 year TV contracts with Fox(mainly Saturday Night games over the summer plus the ASG and World Series)TBS(Tuesday Night & the Divisional/LCS playoff)ESPN(Sunday Night Baseball & the 1st round/wild card)and Apple TV (Friday Night streaming)for the media rights. With the hundreds of regular season games, Run Rafa you are correct that in ideal world NBC could have shown Sunday Afternoon/Friday Night games for part of the season. However the trends are that MLB and soon the rest of Pro Sports will have by a decade or now have *almost all* of their games both egular season and post season only on a basic sports channel such as ESPN or TBS. Or streaming. The days of a NBC Baseball Game of the Week is long gone.
@@santiagivan NBC also had the World Series in 1997 (Marlins/Indians) and 1999 (Braves/Yankees). Fox had 1996 (Braves/Yankees), 1998 (Padres/Yankees), and every World Series since 2000.
That must be WABC-TV (channel 7) in NYC. They aired Game 1 of the 1995 World Series in its entirety with no interruptions there, and channel 7 has no broadcast controversies at all, the World Series would run after the news depending on the East Coast, and college football was on Saturday afternoons.
@@Musicradio77Network However this game was not an ABC telecast itself but a telecast from the local Reno Station. Which happened to be the Reno's ABC affiliate.
@@vdubproductions2646 In NYC, WABC-TV didn’t carried a local team there, all they had was the newscasts and the pre-game of the World Series leading up to game 1 of the World Series. No problem there.
@@Musicradio77Network It's because the game did not air in New York. It only aired in Reno. If you watch the video again, it will show the beginning and it says News 8 Presents or something like that which is the local Reno station.
I've worked at TV stations as the person who takes viewer calls. I sympathize with the people who had to deal with the complaints on that day. Gotta love the unpredictability of sports.
with judge, should have just shown the at bat after it happened, during a break (or you know, in between plays, since not like unless it's a no huddle offense or late game drive, they're snapping the ball 5 seconds after the play ends). hell, i'm a huge baseball fan, but if i was wanting to watch the game, i wouldn't be watching the football game instead.
Interestingly, ABC joined the coverage of Game 1 of the 1995 World Series midway through the pregame introductions on some stations as that day's college game ran slightly over its allotted time.
You’re right. Giant error on my part. Not sure what I was thinking with that one. Trimming that part out, so it should be corrected within the hour or so (whenever TH-cam finishes processing the vid). Thanks for pointing that out!
Uh, dude…Braves had two previous World Series wins. That 1958 team entered the Series as the defending world champions. They also won in Boston in 1914. Look up “miracle Braves.”
You’re right. Giant error on my part. Not sure what I was thinking with that one. Trimming that part out, so it should be corrected within the hour or so (whenever TH-cam finishes processing the vid). Thanks for pointing that out!
I remember watching this game back in 1995 and it was an instant classic. Some were unhappy with the decision not to show the baseball game, but the station would have had many disgruntled viewers on the other end if they had decided to cut away from the football game. KOLO-TV absolutely made the right decision in sticking with the football game. College football over baseball any day.
Prior to the universal DH rule, sure having the difference in American and national league records was important. With it….the line is blurred between the two and it doesn’t matter as much.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 8/9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following: 1. How Nevada made the Las Vegas Bowl that season, and how that factored in the decision the bowl made in 2003. 2. How the NBC affiliate in Sacramento had to make a similar decision in 1992, and missed the start of the Buffalo-San Francisco game. 3. How CBS unwittingly ushered in the marathon Super Bowl pre-game show before Super Bowl 12 in its attempt to show other sporting events before the game.
As much as I enjoy the videos on this channel, too many of them misrepresent 'a dumb decision by a network *affiliate* as 'a dumb decision by the *entire network*.
Couple of things.... 1) Hey, JG8, at the end of your story, you said "...one station manager had to make what you could only describe as a JUDGEment call." I see what you did there! 2) Definitely remember The Baseball Network in 1995 (especially as an Indians fan since the 1970s), but couldn't have ABC/NBC called its presentation something other than "Baseball Night In America"? (A ripoff of "Hockey Night in Canada," if you ask me.) Of course, now we have "Football Night In America" Sunday nights on NBC. A little more originality, please.
Louisiana Tech’s 2012 season would make for a great story. The Bulldogs went 9-3 and had the nation’s top scoring offense… and completely missed out on Bowl Season. The school was offered a spot in the Independence Bowl, but held out for a spot in the Liberty Bowl. It looked like a very safe bet because the Liberty Bowl had the last pick from the Big 12, which meant that it had to find a replacement team in years when the league sent a team to the BCS. Oklahoma State was undefeated and looked like a lock for the National Championship Game… until it suffered a late season upset at Iowa State on a controversial field goal call. OSU missed the Championship, the Big 12 filled all its bowl commitments, and LA Tech spent Bowl Season at home due the fact that the Western Athletic Conference only had a single guaranteed bowl bid for its champion.
It was the Braves 3rd apperance in 5 years (1991, 1992) and their first win in Atlanta. They won in 1914 in Boston and 1957 in Milwaukee. But the question remains, does JG9 like baseball?
Back in the summer, I came across another oddity that involved baseball and Nevada...a bunch of old Nevada baseball jerseys popped up on eBay, some of them from 1994...for some reason, those jerseys had MLB's 125th anniversary patch on one sleeve. There are a ton of college baseball uniforms inspired by big league teams, but Nevada using the actual anniversary patch was outright weirder than the inexplicable popularity of Padres-style script lettering among college teams. Can't win sometimes...people are weird sometimes.
6:01 NOT exactly. They won in 1914 when they were in Boston, lost in 1948, won in 1957 when they were in Milwaukee, lost the next year, and of course were in the 1991 and 1992 series. So by that point, the Braves hadn't won the Series in 38 years.
I would prefer to watch my team versus watching game 1 of the World Series. In 1995 I couldn't imagine these teams having fanbases large enough to justify not switching.
KOLO might have made a different decision if a regional baseball team with a stronger local following in Northern Nevada (like either of the Bay Area ballclubs) was involved.
ABC, at least on one occasion that I've ound, cut away several times from their CART coverage at Laguna Seca in 1998 to cover the home run chase. It's weird to hear Bob Varsha talk about home runs and fly balls while on the screen, the CART cars are blasting around Laguna Seca. it wasn't just a one off, either, rom what I've found, and the full race has been on TH-cam for a while, it was a regular thing. Okay. 98 and the World Series in 95 was a bigger deal than Judge's going or the AL record, but to cut away from programming or 20-30s of baseball, from a whole other sport? Hilariously, at leat for CART, Honda bought up all the commercial time so they'd run flag to flag, uninterrupted....and then cut away to the Cubs or Cards games with that game's feed instead of, I don't know, putting it in a box like they did in 97 for various things in the race...a EDIT: Apparently it was a thing in 98 across ESPN/ABC, not just a one time thing too.
5:46 I will add a extra fact in the next year the Brooklyn Dodgers will go head to head with the NY Yankees in the 1955 World Series. Which Brooklyn Dodgers win the World Series and the MVP of 1955 World Series was Johnny Podres for the Brooklyn Dodgers
Big Baseball and Yankee fan. But there was no reason for them to show Judge's AB's would be one thing if it was the record. But it was only the AL record.
I think it was utterly ridiculous that ESPN would interrupt programming just to show Judge break a record that most people don’t care about and is not the official MLB record anyway, and as for this one I don’t blame the network for sticking to the football game and people are gonna cry over missing a few innings of game one seriously, if it was game seven then they have a good reason to be upset but it was only game one and the series lasted six games
There is no way that that is accurate for average TV size in 1995. I don't think from 1990 on my parents had a TV smaller than 25 in. And I don't think too many other people did.
Now I'm wondering, since the last two AL season HR record holders were also Yankees (Ruth/Maris) , who is the non-Yankee with the most AL dingers? Maybe Griffey Jr?
Jimmie Foxx (Philadelphia Athletics) with 58 in 1932, Alex Rodriguez (Texas) with 57 in 2002, and Ken Griffey Jr. (Seattle) with 56 in both 1997 and 1998.
Woah Woah Woah. The Braves franchise had won 2 World Series to that point in 1914 as the Boston Braves and in 1957 as the Milwaukee Braves. The Atlanta Braves had played in the World Series in 1991 and 1992 losing both times.
Whoa whoa whoa. As a tennis fan, they better show if an American male has match point at the US Open. Hasn't been done since Andy Roddick in 2003. Haha. I get your point though. Have the broadcast on one of the "sister stations" if it's that big of deal
I get it was a tuff choice on the station manager to keep showing the wolf pack game, but this was the World Series and a big one at that. Baseball was shutdown for a year due to the player's strike and no World Series was played the year before. You had two teams that had championship droughts spanning back decades and it started two of the dominant pitchers of that time. The answer can be simplified as such: If it's a championship game show it. If a football game runs long and you have a movie on that time slot keep the game on.
People who live in Oklahoma really love their sooners then the Yankees in a same way the people of North Texas have a close driver to care more about the sooners over the longhorns and aggies
If the MLB teams involved were small market clubs, I could see favoring the regional football game of low tier D1 ball, but given the teams involved in both sports, I think the station manager made the wrong call. It would be different if it was a top tier D1 game with National Championship implications, but Nevada and La Tech? Meh... (No offense to those programs, but neither team was worth pre-empting game 1 of the WS between the Midwest and southeast tribes).
I am a Nevada native, and I even worked at Lawlor Events Center for three years. I was only five at the time this story takes place, so I didn't know just how big the controversy got. Yea, it was definitely a lose-lose situation. there was no right answer, but personally I'm glad it stayed with the local game until completion.
I bet if the station switched to the World Series, then they would have received more than 200 calls given that Nevada is the University of Nevada at Reno. And unlike the 2 Nevada fans that called to support the decision, I doubt any of the Braves or Indians fans would have called to support the decision and if by some chance they did then they would have been swamped.
Fox will more than likely put the college game ob one of its secondary stations or the start of the World Series at that time. Heck they might even start the game as soon as the football game ends. Now me personally would be waiting for the baseball game since the teams on Fox in the 2nd game usually isn't of any real interest of mine. Now I am a fan of all sports and I pay attention to certain sports and watch them in the playoffs where I feel that sports is more exciting in person during the regular season. I do that with done hockey games, a lot of baseball, and also the NBA but I will sit in front of the TV to watch college basketball, and all NFL games and the NCAA but I would prefer going to a college game in person. I love the atmosphere at a college football game where I feel the NFL is more exciting on TV.
I can only imagine a TV station cutting off the ending of a game in this type of scenario, with as crazy of an ending as this game had, for very few, other sporting events. I'd say; Superbowl for sure... any part of any NFL playoff game... any part of a deciding playoff game in either basketball or baseball... any part of BCS Bowl game... any part of a Final 4 game (let's be honest, it'd only be for the men's college basketball though, sadly)... Those are off the top of my head and nothing else is coming to mind so I'll leave it there. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone, too much.
Side note that is totally irrelevant, but whatever: Southwestern Louisiana was back then what the University of Louisiana (at Lafayette) is now. USL made the name change to UL(L) in 1999. #GeauxCajuns
The 1995 World Series did air on ABC. Or more specifically, Games 1, 4, and 5 and Game 7 had it been necessary. Al Michaels, Jim Palmer, and Tim McCarver were the announcers for ABC's World Series coverage that year. The 1995 World Series was aired by NBC and ABC as part of a short-lived partnership that they had with Major League Baseball called The Baseball Network. ABC was supposed to get the World Series in 1994, the first year of The Baseball Network's operation, but the strike wound up canceling the World Series. In July 1995, ABC and NBC announced that they were getting out of The Baseball Network after the season was over, so it was decided that that both networks would share the 1995 World Series as a means of salvaging what was left of the now lame-duck deal.
This game aired on NBC, Al Michaels mentioned it in his book: going by Fulton County Stadium during the Olympics the next year reminded him they didn't get to do Game 7 (would have been on ABC) or the Olympics (lost to NBC)
@@mgb4692 I think that Al Michaels mentioned in his book that there was a clause in his contract at the time that stated that he would've gotten to be the prime time anchor (Jim McKay would've presumably, been placed in a emeritus role instead of once again hosting himself) in the event that ABC landed the Olympics again. The last time that ABC showed the Olympics (Winter or Summer) was the 1988 Winter Games from Calgary, and Michaels did the ice hockey events like he had done since 1980 and the famous "Miracle on Ice".
Snoreball needs to play about 120 less games(at least) for me to care. It's not 1997 anymore I have tons of things I can do while I'm sitting on my ass doing nothing now lmao
i understand showing it over Tulane/Houston as it wasn’t a big game, but it being shown over #23 Wake vs #5 Clemson made 0 sense. as there was a couple of unimportant games on ESPN that same day, not ABC.
You're not too bright. How is the ratio of calls of people calling the station upset vs happy proof more people were upset? Why would you call a TV station to tell them good job. I'm surprised a few people even did that.
I live in Reno and I actually remember this event. I watched the football game knowing full well that Channel 8 could pull the plug at any moment. I'm glad the network stuck with the football game. I know the World Series is always a huge deal but we have priorities.
Priorities for mediocre teams 🤣
Postseason baseball always outprioritizes regular season football, just as postseason football always outprioritizes regular season basketball & hockey, and postseason basketball & hockey always outprioritizes regular season baseball.
Yeah baseball is boring.
I have no problem with KOLO-TV sticking with Nevada's win over Louisiana Tech. I think the station made the right call.
This reminds me of when NBC had to cut away from a Sunday afternoon NFL game in overtime...to air its Sunday national news, 30 minutes before it aired a World Series game.
If you're taking requests about strange TV broadcasts, here's one: the NCAA men's basketball tournament game that CBS moved to another channel (Temple-Santa Clara, 1993 second round).
Speaking of strange broadcasts, another strange one was during the 1994 World Cup when Spain vs South Korea was moved to ESPN2 (it was originally going to be on ESPN) so that ESPN could cover the infamous OJ Simpson car chase on the freeways of LA.
I would have tohught that NBC's NFL contract would have prevented them from cut away from a Sunday afternoon NFL game in overtime...to air its Sunday national news, 30 minutes before it aired a World Series game.
5:59; Actually, the first time a Southern city experienced a World Series was in 1991, not 1995. The Braves were involved, though.
5:59 -- They DID win the World Series in 1957 in Milwaukee and 1914 in Boston.
6:07 -- No sir, they were in the World Series in 1991 and 1992. As a matter of fact, there were those at the time who thought the Braves would end up being the "Buffalo Bills of Baseball" if they didn't finish the job in 1995.
Yeah they are the only MLB team to my knowledge to have won a World Series in every city they played. Boston Milwaukee and Atlanta. In fact they later won the 2021 World Series as well. Giving them 4 currently.
In ways they sorta did after that...considering they never won one again in their division win streak era, despite a few more shots at it.
This sort of reminds me of a time in kansas city where the local CBS station had to decide between airing the NCAA tournament games of KU and Missouri. Both had games roughly the same time. Not a big deal today with multiple stations but back in the 90's only CBS could air the games.
Little would I know that Nevada would appear in this channel. Go pack and keep up the great content.
Nevada hasn't been relevant since Colin kaepernick played ther.
@@dustinsindledecker154 that and when they moved to the mountain west conference (a good amount of okay and disappointing seasons since they joined)
Nowadays, they'd move one game to a subchannel. This would never happen these days
I'm with the station manager. Too bad they didn't have a sister channel they could put the World Series on until the college football game was over.
Or ideally put this Nevada game on a local regional/state wide RSN cable channel such as I think Prime Network at that time.
This game reminds me of the 1994 Pitt West Virginia game that has a similar finish. You should do a video on this game. This game was famous for Pitt's public address announcer making jokes about West Virginia fans.
This probably wasn’t one of them, but…
“WVU’s valedictorian had a 2.0…on the breathalyzer.” 😅
This is kind of nothing when it comes to Channel 8, and also the broadcast of the World Series in Nevada.
For KOLO, I was told when I went to UNR that the station’s lead news anchor, had suffered a heart attack ON AIR. Totally hearsay, obviously, but still a wild story.
But when it comes to the World Series, in the ‘70s, KORK (now KSNV) in Las Vegas got in the habit of pre-empting a lot of NBC’s programming. The straw that broke the camel’s back with the public and the network was KORK pre-empting the 1977 World Series, which involved the Dodgers, who had and still have a substantial fan base in town. The owners of the station (who were also the owners of the Review-Journal, Vegas’s biggest newspaper), were forced to sell.
I live in Reno near the UNR campus.
"...which isn't even the official MLB record."
Tell that to the people who legitimately dismiss McGwire, Sosa, and especially Bonds on the account of steroid use.
I think the callers were just part of the vocal minority. It was their local team and it was a close game, so I think more people in Reno cared more about their college football team. There just wasn't a reason for them to call the station. I agree with their decision.
This channel is a national treasure. You are the equivalent of the Smithsonian for random football controversies!
It looked like the local station was producing the broadcast. I don't think it was an ABC regional game that the local station picked up. That probably played a factor in the decision. Also, I would assume the angry callers are much more likely to call the station than the supportive fans.
Greg Maddux did win the Cy Young Award in 1995. His fourth straight. But he didn’t officially win it until November 1995. So technically, he only had three Cy Young Awards when the 1995 World Series began.
I love when you do videos about games from the 90's. Seeing the uniforms and equipment from the era I played high school and college ball
I'm curious about this national/regional split screen thing. In 1991, ABC broadcast a Penn State-Miami game (10/12) and cut away for the Clarence Thomas hearings. Not only did WPLG in Miami do a split screen to show the game from the wild feed still coming out of the Orange Bowl with Jon Frankel doing his best to do a play-by-play from the WPLG newsroom, they were eventually able to get the WIOD radio broadcast as the audio since they didn't have ABC network audio. Just curious if you could do some research into why WPLG could get away with that, but this channel could not.
If you're doing a video on the Wolf Pack, you really should do one on the largest-and one of the most forgotten-comebacks in the history of football: Nevada's 55-49 win over Weber State in 1991, where the Wolf Pack overcame a 42-7 deficit to somehow win the game.
You forgot the space in Wolf Pack. The NC State Wolfpack writes is as one word while the Nevada Wolf Pack writes it as two words.
Neither decision is any good, honestly. But I think he made the right call in sticking with Nevada. Local sports representing!
A correction at the 6:15 mark. Fox did not have Major League Baseball broadcasting rights in 1995, so they wouldn't have aired any portion of the World Series that year. The 1995 World Series was shared by ABC (who had Games 1, 4-5, and 7 if necessary) and NBC (who had Games 2-3, and 6). 1995 was the first and only year that the World Series was broadcast by The Baseball Network, which was a revenue-sharing consortium between MLB, ABC, and NBC.
That is correct. It was done that way because FOX took over most of the baseball rights the following year, including the World Series. It was done the way it was due to the strike wiping out the playoffs a year earlier.
This might happen again on December 18th with Fox, FIFA & the NFL as the World Cup Final takes place that day before the day's NFL games on Fox. If the World Cup Final goes to overtime or penalty kicks, the start of the 1 PM ET NFL games on Fox will not be shown because there is no way that Fox will move the biggest & most watched sporting event on the planet to FS1.
They will
NFL is king
@@bhratbrat not sure about that, FIFA would be super pissed if they were upstaged by the NFL & would likely strip Fox from broadcasting the 2026 World Cup (which is being held in the US) costing Fox billions of dollars in revenue. Fox needs that World Cup money in order to keep the rights for the NFL & especially the Big Ten when the time comes to renew those rights.
Nothing but an educated guess I imagine they'd split what gets moved by market. Green Bay plays at that time theyd throw a fit if something like Croatia vs France was on instead lmao. But showing it on Fox in say Pittsburgh while they play on CBS seems a no brainer. World cup final and cumulative 1pm fox games looks like a ratings wash
Obviously that's assuming there's nothing in the contracts where one can't be pushed or something. Is kind of interesting though
@@brandynhenry7107 well at least Fox has a sister channel if they can't show the game on Fox they could probably show the game on Antenna TV like they did with some MLB games here in California because of the Rams preseason games. That's one option.
Yeah, I think the kick off would be 10 a.m. and normal game would end at noon or a little after, overtime would get close to 12:45 p.m., and PKs would cause an overlap. So my guess is that FOX will buy off the FIFA referee crew to get the game finished by noon, just kidding (or am I?), I think all the games that will aired on FOX will probably have a start time of 1:10 or 1:15pm.
WABC-TV (channel 7) aired Game 1 of the 1995 World Series, and both New York teams, the Yankees and Mets are out for the rest of the season, no broadcast controversies there.
To be fair its just game one of the world series if it was game 6 or 7 than that would be crazy.
WOW. And this was the year before overtime. Nevada could've conceivably kicked a field goal and went to overtime had it been in effect and the viewers could've missed even MORE of the World Series.
oh, btw:
orel isn't just the first player to win both lcs awards, he's still the only player to do it (and one of only 2 players to win the award twice, regardless of league, the other being dave stewart, who did it in 1989 with oakland, 1993 with the blue jays)
This situation is very much understandable. As the region's network exec, you wanted to make local fans of the Nevada Wolf Pack happy by sticking to a game that meant quite a bit in their college football regular season. You chose to air Nevada football, so you should stick with it. To be honest, MLB is becoming less and less of a big deal by the day, including the World Series. Yes, MLB still meant something back in 1995, but if this same scenario played out today in 2022, I doubt many fans would be as upset. (MLB today is a big joke with their many problems...)
Yep the steroid era of the MLB will always haunt the league. Plus the ratings for the World Series aren't there anyways. They've been going down every year.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld EVERY program's ratings have been going down since 1995
@@donaldpaluga Exactly. The only reason the NFL has excellent ratings and viewership is 1 word. Legalized Gambling.
And back to the World Series. Even with them only getting about 1/3 of their TV viewership from their heyday in the 1970's and 80's, the MLB World Series is still among the most watched events in America every year NON-NFL/College Football. Without the World Series here in the early 2020's Fox outside of the NFL would in deep trouble. Fox has awful ratings for their non sports entertainment shows as well. A far cry from the Y2k when they smash hits such as American Idol and 24. So the lack of a hit show is probably the main reason, Fox just signed a recent record 10 year extension to be the exclusive American TV home of the World Series until at least the 2029 World Series.
Something similar happened in 2007 when Barry Bonds was on the cusp of breaking Hank Aaron's homerun record. Every time Bonds was at bat, ESPN, would interrupt whatever was on to show a potential milestone. That though is different, that is a historic milestone and it also occurred in the month of August, before the start of the college and NFL football seasons.
Can I just say thank you for pronouncing “Nevada” properly? Not a lot of east-coast folks do that.
The vast majority of complaints shouldn't be shocking. Not many call companies to say good job. Another thing is that Greg Maddux is from Nevada. He wasn't born in Nevada but has lived most of his life there.
It was a part of the "Baseball Network" with ABC and NBC as partners. Only lasted from 1994 to 1995. Both ABC and NBC covered the 95' World Series because the 94' World Series was cancelled by the strike!
The word series move to fox in 96
I wanna forget that The Baseball Network ever existed. I hated its format with a passion, especially in the playoffs. I'm in Florida, but I was unable to watch the Marlins play at the Giants on a Friday night in 1995 because The Baseball Network determined that the 1st pitch time (shortly after 11 p.m. EDT/8 p.m. PDT) wasn't appropriate for my time zone (Eastern). If there was a way to make CBS' MLB coverage look good by comparison, The Baseball Network did it.
@@marcus813 yeah people still love the MLB in NBC theme song though. I still don't want TBS covering anything baseball related it just doesn't make sense to me. Might as well give some playoff tv rights to NBC.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld Not happening if ever again. MLB this past 2022 season just signed 8-10 year TV contracts with Fox(mainly Saturday Night games over the summer plus the ASG and World Series)TBS(Tuesday Night & the Divisional/LCS playoff)ESPN(Sunday Night Baseball & the 1st round/wild card)and Apple TV (Friday Night streaming)for the media rights. With the hundreds of regular season games, Run Rafa you are correct that in ideal world NBC could have shown Sunday Afternoon/Friday Night games for part of the season.
However the trends are that MLB and soon the rest of Pro Sports will have by a decade or now have *almost all* of their games both egular season and post season only on a basic sports channel such as ESPN or TBS. Or streaming. The days of a NBC Baseball Game of the Week is long gone.
@@santiagivan NBC also had the World Series in 1997 (Marlins/Indians) and 1999 (Braves/Yankees). Fox had 1996 (Braves/Yankees), 1998 (Padres/Yankees), and every World Series since 2000.
Totally forgot that the World Series games started a little after 7 PM ET and not 8 PM ET like it does now.
That must be WABC-TV (channel 7) in NYC. They aired Game 1 of the 1995 World Series in its entirety with no interruptions there, and channel 7 has no broadcast controversies at all, the World Series would run after the news depending on the East Coast, and college football was on Saturday afternoons.
@@Musicradio77Network However this game was not an ABC telecast itself but a telecast from the local Reno Station. Which happened to be the Reno's ABC affiliate.
@@vdubproductions2646 In NYC, WABC-TV didn’t carried a local team there, all they had was the newscasts and the pre-game of the World Series leading up to game 1 of the World Series. No problem there.
@@Musicradio77Network It's because the game did not air in New York. It only aired in Reno. If you watch the video again, it will show the beginning and it says News 8 Presents or something like that which is the local Reno station.
I've worked at TV stations as the person who takes viewer calls. I sympathize with the people who had to deal with the complaints on that day. Gotta love the unpredictability of sports.
with judge, should have just shown the at bat after it happened, during a break (or you know, in between plays, since not like unless it's a no huddle offense or late game drive, they're snapping the ball 5 seconds after the play ends).
hell, i'm a huge baseball fan, but if i was wanting to watch the game, i wouldn't be watching the football game instead.
Interestingly, ABC joined the coverage of Game 1 of the 1995 World Series midway through the pregame introductions on some stations as that day's college game ran slightly over its allotted time.
Braves won the 1957 WS.
You’re right. Giant error on my part. Not sure what I was thinking with that one. Trimming that part out, so it should be corrected within the hour or so (whenever TH-cam finishes processing the vid). Thanks for pointing that out!
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Nobody's perfect. You do a great job
Yeah he made a mistake he is only human.
@@dustinsindledecker154 lol. Look what I said
Sorry I didn't see that,my bad.
Uh, dude…Braves had two previous World Series wins.
That 1958 team entered the Series as the defending world champions.
They also won in Boston in 1914. Look up “miracle Braves.”
You’re right. Giant error on my part. Not sure what I was thinking with that one. Trimming that part out, so it should be corrected within the hour or so (whenever TH-cam finishes processing the vid). Thanks for pointing that out!
@@JaguarGator8 not a problem. Always glad to help.
I remember watching this game back in 1995 and it was an instant classic. Some were unhappy with the decision not to show the baseball game, but the station would have had many disgruntled viewers on the other end if they had decided to cut away from the football game. KOLO-TV absolutely made the right decision in sticking with the football game. College football over baseball any day.
Prior to the universal DH rule, sure having the difference in American and national league records was important. With it….the line is blurred between the two and it doesn’t matter as much.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 8/9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following:
1. How Nevada made the Las Vegas Bowl that season, and how that factored in the decision the bowl made in 2003.
2. How the NBC affiliate in Sacramento had to make a similar decision in 1992, and missed the start of the Buffalo-San Francisco game.
3. How CBS unwittingly ushered in the marathon Super Bowl pre-game show before Super Bowl 12 in its attempt to show other sporting events before the game.
As much as I enjoy the videos on this channel, too many of them misrepresent 'a dumb decision by a network *affiliate* as 'a dumb decision by the *entire network*.
Couple of things....
1) Hey, JG8, at the end of your story, you said "...one station manager had to make what you could only describe as a JUDGEment call." I see what you did there!
2) Definitely remember The Baseball Network in 1995 (especially as an Indians fan since the 1970s), but couldn't have ABC/NBC called its presentation something other than "Baseball Night In America"? (A ripoff of "Hockey Night in Canada," if you ask me.) Of course, now we have "Football Night In America" Sunday nights on NBC. A little more originality, please.
They should have added the following wording ‘we apologize for any inconvenience this may have cause’
Louisiana Tech’s 2012 season would make for a great story. The Bulldogs went 9-3 and had the nation’s top scoring offense… and completely missed out on Bowl Season. The school was offered a spot in the Independence Bowl, but held out for a spot in the Liberty Bowl. It looked like a very safe bet because the Liberty Bowl had the last pick from the Big 12, which meant that it had to find a replacement team in years when the league sent a team to the BCS. Oklahoma State was undefeated and looked like a lock for the National Championship Game… until it suffered a late season upset at Iowa State on a controversial field goal call. OSU missed the Championship, the Big 12 filled all its bowl commitments, and LA Tech spent Bowl Season at home due the fact that the Western Athletic Conference only had a single guaranteed bowl bid for its champion.
The real story about la tech is they declined a bowl bid hoping not to play not to play Louisiana Monroe because they thought ulm was
It was the Braves 3rd apperance in 5 years (1991, 1992) and their first win in Atlanta. They won in 1914 in Boston and 1957 in Milwaukee. But the question remains, does JG9 like baseball?
He doesn't have any specific videos on them, so I assume no.
They also were in the world series in 96 and in 99 both lost to the yankees.
Back in the summer, I came across another oddity that involved baseball and Nevada...a bunch of old Nevada baseball jerseys popped up on eBay, some of them from 1994...for some reason, those jerseys had MLB's 125th anniversary patch on one sleeve. There are a ton of college baseball uniforms inspired by big league teams, but Nevada using the actual anniversary patch was outright weirder than the inexplicable popularity of Padres-style script lettering among college teams.
Can't win sometimes...people are weird sometimes.
You mentioned FOX but didn't NBC carry game 2?
6:01 NOT exactly. They won in 1914 when they were in Boston, lost in 1948, won in 1957 when they were in Milwaukee, lost the next year, and of course were in the 1991 and 1992 series. So by that point, the Braves hadn't won the Series in 38 years.
I would prefer to watch my team versus watching game 1 of the World Series. In 1995 I couldn't imagine these teams having fanbases large enough to justify not switching.
KOLO might have made a different decision if a regional baseball team with a stronger local following in Northern Nevada (like either of the Bay Area ballclubs) was involved.
ABC, at least on one occasion that I've ound, cut away several times from their CART coverage at Laguna Seca in 1998 to cover the home run chase. It's weird to hear Bob Varsha talk about home runs and fly balls while on the screen, the CART cars are blasting around Laguna Seca. it wasn't just a one off, either, rom what I've found, and the full race has been on TH-cam for a while, it was a regular thing.
Okay. 98 and the World Series in 95 was a bigger deal than Judge's going or the AL record, but to cut away from programming or 20-30s of baseball, from a whole other sport? Hilariously, at leat for CART, Honda bought up all the commercial time so they'd run flag to flag, uninterrupted....and then cut away to the Cubs or Cards games with that game's feed instead of, I don't know, putting it in a box like they did in 97 for various things in the race...a
EDIT: Apparently it was a thing in 98 across ESPN/ABC, not just a one time thing too.
The station would have had the same negative response no matter what they did. Who calls a media outler to say they LIKE something they did?
5:46 I will add a extra fact in the next year the Brooklyn Dodgers will go head to head with the NY Yankees in the 1955 World Series. Which Brooklyn Dodgers win the World Series and the MVP of 1955 World Series was Johnny Podres for the Brooklyn Dodgers
Big Baseball and Yankee fan. But there was no reason for them to show Judge's AB's would be one thing if it was the record. But it was only the AL record.
Well.some people will still think its the real record because of steroids.
@@dustinsindledecker154 They can think what they want. But the record books will always say otherwise.
I agree but alot of baseball nerds will get angry with you when you say bonds is the record holder.
I think it was utterly ridiculous that ESPN would interrupt programming just to show Judge break a record that most people don’t care about and is not the official MLB record anyway, and as for this one I don’t blame the network for sticking to the football game and people are gonna cry over missing a few innings of game one seriously, if it was game seven then they have a good reason to be upset but it was only game one and the series lasted six games
"This was the first time a Southern city had experienced a World Series." Unless you count the ones that the Braves played in in 1991 and 1992.
There is no way that that is accurate for average TV size in 1995. I don't think from 1990 on my parents had a TV smaller than 25 in. And I don't think too many other people did.
I'm my opinion unless it's contractual agreement local teams take precedence
I really didn’t care about the 95 World Series, not a fan of either team. Hated both teams and still do to this day
Now I'm wondering, since the last two AL season HR record holders were also Yankees (Ruth/Maris) , who is the non-Yankee with the most AL dingers? Maybe Griffey Jr?
Jimmie Foxx (Philadelphia Athletics) with 58 in 1932, Alex Rodriguez (Texas) with 57 in 2002, and Ken Griffey Jr. (Seattle) with 56 in both 1997 and 1998.
Atlanta played in 2 other World Series before 1995 in the 90's.
Woah Woah Woah.
The Braves franchise had won 2 World Series to that point in 1914 as the Boston Braves and in 1957 as the Milwaukee Braves. The Atlanta Braves had played in the World Series in 1991 and 1992 losing both times.
They also lost in 96 and 99
Whoa whoa whoa. As a tennis fan, they better show if an American male has match point at the US Open. Hasn't been done since Andy Roddick in 2003. Haha. I get your point though. Have the broadcast on one of the "sister stations" if it's that big of deal
My sister went to college at UNR
I get it was a tuff choice on the station manager to keep showing the wolf pack game, but this was the World Series and a big one at that. Baseball was shutdown for a year due to the player's strike and no World Series was played the year before. You had two teams that had championship droughts spanning back decades and it started two of the dominant pitchers of that time.
The answer can be simplified as such: If it's a championship game show it.
If a football game runs long and you have a movie on that time slot keep the game on.
Or simply put this Nevada Wolf Pack game on a local Regional Sports Network.
@@americangiant1003 that too.
People who live in Oklahoma really love their sooners then the Yankees in a same way the people of North Texas have a close driver to care more about the sooners over the longhorns and aggies
If the MLB teams involved were small market clubs, I could see favoring the regional football game of low tier D1 ball, but given the teams involved in both sports, I think the station manager made the wrong call. It would be different if it was a top tier D1 game with National Championship implications, but Nevada and La Tech? Meh... (No offense to those programs, but neither team was worth pre-empting game 1 of the WS between the Midwest and southeast tribes).
That Becky comment is an amazing Reddit comment if it happened today, that was genius
I am a Nevada native, and I even worked at Lawlor Events Center for three years. I was only five at the time this story takes place, so I didn't know just how big the controversy got. Yea, it was definitely a lose-lose situation. there was no right answer, but personally I'm glad it stayed with the local game until completion.
Sad there was a Stabbing incident in Vegas this week though..
I bet if the station switched to the World Series, then they would have received more than 200 calls given that Nevada is the University of Nevada at Reno. And unlike the 2 Nevada fans that called to support the decision, I doubt any of the Braves or Indians fans would have called to support the decision and if by some chance they did then they would have been swamped.
Here in New York, the 1995 World Series got underway when WABC-TV (channel 7) aired it without any interruptions and the game did started.
Fox will more than likely put the college game ob one of its secondary stations or the start of the World Series at that time. Heck they might even start the game as soon as the football game ends. Now me personally would be waiting for the baseball game since the teams on Fox in the 2nd game usually isn't of any real interest of mine. Now I am a fan of all sports and I pay attention to certain sports and watch them in the playoffs where I feel that sports is more exciting in person during the regular season. I do that with done hockey games, a lot of baseball, and also the NBA but I will sit in front of the TV to watch college basketball, and all NFL games and the NCAA but I would prefer going to a college game in person. I love the atmosphere at a college football game where I feel the NFL is more exciting on TV.
I don't know much about Nevada football other than Colin kaepernick playing his college ball there.
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Aaron Judge didn’t break the American League record, he broke the MLB record.
No, the record is the record. It doesn't stop being the official record just because fans don't agree with the way the new recordholder did it.
6:05 uh dude the Braves won the world series in 1957 against the Yankees. Oddly enough, the next year, they lost the world series against the Yankees
My Dad actually worked at KOLO back then
I think the station made the right decision, but I’ve never lived in Reno.
I can only imagine a TV station cutting off the ending of a game in this type of scenario, with as crazy of an ending as this game had, for very few, other sporting events. I'd say; Superbowl for sure... any part of any NFL playoff game... any part of a deciding playoff game in either basketball or baseball... any part of BCS Bowl game... any part of a Final 4 game (let's be honest, it'd only be for the men's college basketball though, sadly)... Those are off the top of my head and nothing else is coming to mind so I'll leave it there. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone, too much.
Okay, normally I'm very much in favour of football over baseball, but seriously? A *Big West* game over the *WORLD SERIES?!?*
Side note that is totally irrelevant, but whatever: Southwestern Louisiana was back then what the University of Louisiana (at Lafayette) is now. USL made the name change to UL(L) in 1999. #GeauxCajuns
Well football is more entertaining than baseball.
I mean they made the better choice. Plus anything on the baseball network was a disaster
I'm just glad Roger Maris Jr. finally shut up.
The 1995 World Series aired on NBC, not ABC; maybe you're thinking the ALCS or NLCS instead.
The 1995 World Series did air on ABC. Or more specifically, Games 1, 4, and 5 and Game 7 had it been necessary. Al Michaels, Jim Palmer, and Tim McCarver were the announcers for ABC's World Series coverage that year.
The 1995 World Series was aired by NBC and ABC as part of a short-lived partnership that they had with Major League Baseball called The Baseball Network. ABC was supposed to get the World Series in 1994, the first year of The Baseball Network's operation, but the strike wound up canceling the World Series.
In July 1995, ABC and NBC announced that they were getting out of The Baseball Network after the season was over, so it was decided that that both networks would share the 1995 World Series as a means of salvaging what was left of the now lame-duck deal.
@@TMC1982Part2 It turns out I was judging according to what I saw in Game 6. Thanks for the correction.
This game aired on NBC, Al Michaels mentioned it in his book: going by Fulton County Stadium during the Olympics the next year reminded him they didn't get to do Game 7 (would have been on ABC) or the Olympics (lost to NBC)
@@mgb4692 I think that Al Michaels mentioned in his book that there was a clause in his contract at the time that stated that he would've gotten to be the prime time anchor (Jim McKay would've presumably, been placed in a emeritus role instead of once again hosting himself) in the event that ABC landed the Olympics again. The last time that ABC showed the Olympics (Winter or Summer) was the 1988 Winter Games from Calgary, and Michaels did the ice hockey events like he had done since 1980 and the famous "Miracle on Ice".
Now Reno joined the game in progress!
*the real MLB HR record
AARON JUDGE'S HOME RECORD IS NOT THE MLB HOME RECORD BARRY BONDS HAS THAT RECORD
It's a good season for judge
I love College Football but ESPN they are a sport network
The correct decision made 25 years before its time. Baseball is dead.
So tv size matters
I love college football but come on it’s the world series
so?
Snoreball needs to play about 120 less games(at least) for me to care. It's not 1997 anymore I have tons of things I can do while I'm sitting on my ass doing nothing now lmao
i understand showing it over Tulane/Houston as it wasn’t a big game, but it being shown over #23 Wake vs #5 Clemson made 0 sense. as there was a couple of unimportant games on ESPN that same day, not ABC.
You're not too bright. How is the ratio of calls of people calling the station upset vs happy proof more people were upset? Why would you call a TV station to tell them good job. I'm surprised a few people even did that.