Ashes of Creation’s Data Overload is THE FUTURE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Thanks to Jibbs and Kash from @LoreForged for the voice overs!
Ashes of Creation is an open world MMORPG set in a fantasy environment where you can choose different classes and races to adventure through with your friends. Intrepid Studios is the developer behind the game. They’re technically an indie studio, but their creative director Steven Sharif has a clear vision for his video game: Massively Multiplayer Role Playing Game. He wants to put the massive back in MMO. Exploring dungeons, griding for gear, crafting armor/weapons, learning new spells, and competing in large scale PvP battles. High end PvE such as raids will mainly occur in the open world. Bosses will spawn and roam through the land. Are YOU ready to enter the world of Verra?
Shoutout to the Veran Chef Kash from Loreforged and the handsomest Manager of the Sleepy Owl Tavern, Jibbs!
Potentially the best video on Ashes I have seen.
@@Razdasoldier wow that’s high praise! Thank you!
This is what we call a good ass video
Haha thanks dude
It doesn't matter how we look at it. People are going to drop off regardless & that's just how it goes. Intrepid just needs to continue to prepare for that & retaining those who want to be here.
For sure. They're saving a lot of stuff to keep people coming back.
Now go to bed young man.
These videos really get me thinking of what Ashes could become. I actually remember watching these past livestreams but always dismissed the data conversations/topics.. but having it presented this way visually makes me truly appreciate not only the work you put into these videos, but also how hard everyone at intrepid is working to give us MMORPG players truly something special. Makes more excited & hopeful of the future. Great insight! Favorite ashes channel hands down! Never stop doing these please!
Thanks dude! I don’t plan on stopping anytime soon.
Dude your content is a step above. Easily my favourite ashes content creator at the moment. Don't get me wrong I love a bit of Narc but this shit really butters my egg roll.
Mmmm egg rolls. Thanks for the encouragement!
I appreciate you treating videogames as a hobby instead of a life line or lifestyle. It is refreshing to see a TH-camr gamer who has a life outside of videogames but still loves to play for fun.
Thanks dude. If I went full-time, it'd take the fun out of it.
I am stoked for Ashes of Creation! I have been with Intrepid since Crowdfunding 2017! My "Settler" is excited to take part in the Beta! I just want them to take their time on their game! I will be there when they do fully release the game! Great vid, keep up the good work! ;)
Oh nice you're an OG! I appreciate the support!
Once again you provide an amazing video, well done Doctor!
So impressive how much time you put into these videos!
Thanks dude! Looking forward to more content from you.
@@TheCopiumClinic Got a few in the making, but been struck hard with sickness at home 🤧🤞
Soon TM … 😅
"cynicism masks as intellect" was such a good point. A well deserved sub earned with this video!
@@dregaus thanks man and welcome to The Clinic!
Absolutely fantastic video - I'm glad you were recommended to me!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Haha, that intro is a perfect representation of some of those AoC forum threads along the lines of "Are we there yet?"
Another great vid and great perspectives on the long haul!
Thanks dude!
*This is the best Ashes of Creation video ever made, by anyone.*
*Hail the victorious Dead!*
Wow that's high praise!
Hail!
You're definitely one of the more cerebral AoC CCs. The editing, composition and talking points were well-thought-out. I'm sure your channel will grow considerably if AoC releases and does well.
Thanks dude, I'm trying to use this time before release to improve.
@@TheCopiumClinic What are your plans if your channel grows to a large number of subs? Are you still going to try balance content creation with med school or will you ultimately have to choose one over the other?
@@over9000wow I'm done with med school and training now thank goodness. Now that I'm working, I'm saving my time off for content creation. If the channel ever gets big enough, I'd probably decrease my work week to 4 days per week.
@@TheCopiumClinic Cool, thanks for sharing. I'm a backer for AoC, but I wasn't following their progress that closely, so it helps to have these in-depth videos with your insight. All the best to you and your channel!
@@over9000wow Thanks dude!
An absolute BANGER of a video, thank you!!
/Love from Sweden
Tack så mycket!
My hair is gonna be gray when this game comes out, but hopefully it's fun
Ironically the original MMO Ultima Online leaned heavily on 'auto balancing' of its spells which simply utilized the number of times each spell was cast in the world to ramp them up and down in power. So the idea of mass data driven balance is hardly new.
Really enjoyed this, best vid you've done.
Also, as a backend dev working heavily with data over the years; working on a project like this has never appealed so much. "Game dev" has never been my interest or skillset, but as you say, it's not 2004. The analytics potential is giving me a real data semi here.
Haha thanks!
If it truly takes a year to get a node to stage 6, then a year’s worth of content development can happen post launch without loss of fidelity.
Of course, they’ll probably overestimate the time it actually takes people to accomplish those things at launch.
Dr Burns is prime husband material, sexy, smart and loves video games.
lol stahp 😊
Ashes looks awesome so far, only one thing missing: weapon sheath
7.5 is my favorite integer.
He corrected himself after, but it was too good not to clip.
wanted to comment that :D
@@TheCopiumClinic its fine, blue squadron is very important guy in the internet, without him we wouldn't know what "stupid" looks like. So how would we know that we are smart?
20:14 Real life in nonlinear, change my mind.
Great video! Data collection on the back end is critical to get a full picture of what might need adjusting during testing.
Yeah I'm excited to see how they handle it all during A2
Steven is also 100% right when he says the Riverlands is the test zone and the others will be much faster. I am currently building an rpg in UE5 and the first zone took me a week, the 2nd zone took me a few hours. Granted, these are very small and featureless compared to Ashes but it is still a good example.
That's a good perspective.
I wasn't aware of all this data they are mining, which puts some of my concerns at ease
Looking good man, nice beard. keep up the good content!
I appreciate it man!
"Pax Dei will enter early access in Spring this year." Their website still has this Jan 9 announcement.
Pax Dei Alpha 2 lasted one week. I played 80 hours and loved it. But, imo they are two years away from acceptable combat and four from PvP. I am not hopeful that I'll be able to play it again any time soon. Perhaps they should consider a four year Alpha 3.
In hindsight I am so glad that on the last day I ponied up for AoC Alpha 2. Sometimes - rarely - FOMO turns out to be a good thing.
Probably my favorite video to date by the good doctor. Great stuff! Keep the vids coming! There is so much people don't know OR get feed by total Bafoons *insert Mr. 1.5-2 years max BDO whale here* misinformation it's not even funny. I'm hoping during Alpha2 that people will start to realize the entire scope of this project, and the dedication Intrepid has been putting into this game. It's massive, just the nodes alone are staggering....4 node types, 5 different stages, 9 racial aesthetics, then 85 + or - locales where all of these have to fit in and function properly...it makes my head swim. This is going to be stellar if Steven and the team pull this off. I remember when Steven stated that a node will now have the ability to be on separate elevation levels. Because in Alpha1 there were all on a raised flat plane. We got to see this in the Nodes preview they did...if anyone really noticed that at all..when they walked uphill to the top part of the node. Man, that alone will be some epic cities, and towns! I can't wait!!!!!!! Keep the great vids coming!!!!!
Thanks for the encouragement! I'll keep em rolling!
I've watched this games development for many many years now and this is probably the biggest insight I've gotten from the whole thing:
I could write a chapter in a book of all the "green flags" there are for this games massive success, most of them being incredibly obvious, most of the big ones.
I don't know if it's because people have been burned so much that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge any of it, or if people are scared that it'll make their current MMO irrelevant, but it can't be because people are just stupid. It's clear as day, this isn't a maybe, this is a "I'm 99% positive this is the current pinnacle of game design"
Dude, exactly! The amount of green flags from intrepid is insane.
How muxh time did it take to find the compilation of them saying "data" damn. You put a lot of work into these videos 🙌🏻
@@HeatherMas0n I try to make every video worth the click! Haha I love that you’re going through the back catalog now.
Ashes of Relation is in a league of his own when it comes to this type of videos. Keep it up ^^
Thanks homie!
Solid work burnsy. Always great stuff. Voice acting was dicey though… 😂
Haha sounds like some "restructuring" needs to happen at The Sleepy Owl
@@TheCopiumClinic lol. I'll bet they had a blast.
Burns, I want to say. I love your content, and you continue to impress me with every video you make. It's just what the doctor ordered before going to bed! I slapa da like button.
Thanks Chaffy. Good talking with ya earlier today.
Amazing video! Thanks for the reminder of the milestone 2 completion in 2022 ^^ Milestone 9 now woooop ^^
Yeah, crazy right?!
Excellent video, thanks Doc. Plenty new angles to consider 😁👍
Thanks for the all support Kato!
Considering the announced scope of the game and the large percentage of unseen mechanics/features, 36 months minimum in A2. If you look at past performance and current methodology, Intrepid shows no indication that they will accelerate their development pace in any way. The 8-10k number per server is not technically achievable, has not been talked about recently, and was always stated as a not-confident "goal". A2 servers will have no more than 2-3k. Intrepid does not care if 100k FOMO buyers stop testing after 2 weeks. The tens of thousands of hard core testers are sufficient to their needs.
Great job breaking down the data Intrepid has access to! I've tried to explain this to people that have concerns about Balancing and Gold Sellers but they don't listen.
Thanks man. Yeah they're setting up the game to have actual knowledge of what's happening in it. You should send those people my botting video 😉
If they make sexy skins I am confident people will spend $$ on those.
Gold sellers and bots could be eliminated almost completely by making gear untradeable .
If you haven't yet, you should watch my botting video.
My favorite Ashes Of Creation Videos to watch ♥️
Huge compliment from Mr 10-Question-Nyce! You're a man of the people!
great video as always!!! I cant believe you don't have more subs to this channel......
Thanks amigo. Not a lot of people watch Ashes content... yet.
You didn't even mention AI. six years from now games are going to be made entirely different. Their window is 3-4 for full launch tops.
I hope they are careful about how they use data. WoW uses dynamic spawns based on the number of players in the area, and if most of the players are doing something other than killing the mobs, it makes it so that spawns occur right on top of someone who just killed something. Done wrong can make something "automatically" unplayable.
Good point!
LOL the blue squadron video
BG3 was in early access for 3 years for a single player game. The result? Game of the Year from every single entity that does game of the year awards.
There is no such thing as to long of testing / alpha / beta as long as the results are good.
Yeah I'm fine with long testing too. Based on what we know, I just don't think it lasts 6 years.
@@TheCopiumClinic My estimation is a minimum of 2 years, with maximum of 4
Some people say it was 1.5 years -- Lawl
What a great video in-depth and concise and very informative I'm so glad I backed this game and after watching this it seems it was a good call to do so.
Thank you for your hard work.
My pleasure, thanks for the comment!
You are correct. I am scared. Not because it will take me away from playing my current mmo but because it's going to take away my very life. Our lives will become AoC, and our IRLs will be the game.
lol seriously man
11:25 lmao
You know people are gonna be like that.
I hopes Ashes Makes MMOS Great Again
this was a very good quality video.
I appreciate the kind words
That data montage xD
DATA 🤤
Intrepid will need to release content alongside their monthly showcases to keep any hype trains going. Once A2 drops they will lose all hype momentum because now people will be playing it first hand and have daily in game ashes content to watch instead of only having videos like these and the showcases themselves to keep the copium flowing. If they add new content every month or every other month no matter how small i can see them maintaining a decent A2 player base but If they go 3+ months without any new content to go check out they will only maintain guilds who are dedicated to their nodes and the extremely dedicated individuals doing their own thing. The random players will be to detached to go spend more time playing the uncompleted A2 that they already got bored of once or will at most log on specifically to check out new content and then log off until new content comes out
Yeah exactly
Comparing the capabilities of event tracking of older mmo's is kinda unfair. In the past 5 years due to the ways that web applications have changed tracking events has become really important and the correlative technologies have exploded. It's awesome to see them being utilized for gameplay development but its a big ask to retrofit existing platforms to this type of set up
@@jamesgphillips91 exactly. This is a next gen MMO, the other ones are “classics”.
good content , i learned something.
Thank you! The fact that you learned something is a huge compliment.
Love the video! 🎉
This video needs more data analysis, make sure to like and comment to help the data!
In all seriousness, great video and something that I hadn't considered!
Thanks guys! 😄😄
Don't judge me if I choose to reserve xXBongstarXx !!
Lol no judgement from me!
WoW also has this extreme amount of telemetry & data gathering but its become an issue for them. Telemetry data is good but too many game studios like blizzard use it solely to balance and develop. Data comes in all shapes, sizes and sources, ranging from telemetry, logs, or experience, or player feedback!
Blizzard tends to use log/telemetric data as we've seen. This results in a SUPER bland mesh gameplay because they use a single source of feedback to balance.
Also, WoW 100% knows everything mentioned at 15:40 as we've seen from reverse engineering of the client. Blizzard simply just doesn't care to allocate resources to make that information useful or towards betterment of the game.
I don't think data is the key here, but rather what the studio does with the data and how much they care.
Solid point. I was looking for evidence of Blizz having access to that info, but couldn't find any. Do you have any confirmed examples?
i predict Alpha will be 1.5 years, and beta 6 months. so 2 years till release hits that target before UE-6
I could get on board with that!
Margaret 'there might be some in apoc that are to..'
From what I heard - its totally understandable why they are focused so hard on wands.
Haha I've heard some stories
TBH for me as long as they don't try that early access crap you get on steam and its a true "alpha test" then i am ok with it taking 9-12 months or even more, From what we have seen so far it seems that the devs actually want our feedback but all devs will say that so we will wait and see.
Yeah agreed.
'the integer 7 and a half'....
xD
Burns, I love you and I hate you! I'm so jealous of your talents lol great work as usual grrrr :)
Haha just a lot of time and practice. You'll get there!
We will be there when its ready! For Frodo!
Just a few months away!
Ashes of Big-Brother
From a game master standpoint I love it. When it's an ever present tyrannical govt, not so lit.
Very insightful and well thought video.
(Nyce keeps ganking meeeee xD)
Thanks man. Those forum posts are destined to happen.
I think you might be a literal genius, you should take one of those tests to make sure.
Haha I went to school with geniuses. I'm middling at best, but I try hard.
@@TheCopiumClinic Yeah that’s what they all say lol. Anyway, great video. As for when I think A2 will end, that will probably depend entirely on the release of GTA6.
Give us more!!! These videos are amazing!
Thanks dude. I'm working on more now!
that was a good well edited video
I appreciate it!
Bravo dude! Great great video
Thanks dude!
Excellent video
Thanks man!
Thank you for them most thoughtful and encouraging videos about AoC. I'm addicted to the copium now.
Haha welcome to the clinic!
Coming from a known gold seller, why do we know a gold seller that's still in game?
Dude, great question. I talk about it in my Botting video.
Don't get Cleric Burns , get Captain Ahab cause a frog that big and ugly will make great bait out in the ocean.
lol
The way Steven looks at Unreal Engine, I feel like if A2 lasts deep into 2025 and we get UE6 he will delay Beta to roll in with UE6...but who can say for sure.
That'd be wiiiild
Sick beard
It's still growing!
Amazing
Thanks for the comment!
Asmon gotta see this one, W vid
Haha he's too big time for me. Thanks for the comment bro
great video
Thanks!
Slup that Data :D
Lol
I'll pay $30/month if that avoids an "Ashes Token" 👀😂 If you know what I mean...
Duuuude no kidding
Nyce beard
It is Nyce isn't it.
Good great video but … to be honest ashes of creation isnt doing anything new and at the same time they are taking like 10 plus years to release a game. Like I’m good thanks but I’ll rather play something that is actually out. Thats my opinion about the game. My opinion about your video is 👍 great amazing!
Hey, what ever happened to jeff bard ?
He left after Covid. My guess is that he wanted to work remote, but Steven wanted people in house. Just a guess though. I know that was part of why Bacon left.
@AshesofRelation i hope they dont regret it, or are open to return
@@TheCopiumClinic iirc Bacon also had either 2 or 4 hour commute times per day, so he had a good reason to quit too.
Jeff went to work with VR tech....sad to see him go, but that's what he wanted to do. Bacon left for the commute time and he had some close family illness issues to tend to. All understandable.
You’re so cute burns
first
Looks cool, but I’m super turned off by this whole mandatory PvP stuff. It’s going to be a gankfest of no lifers ruining new players times. I guarantee whatever mechanic they implement to disuade people from doing this will not work.
Working on that for my next video!
bluesquad is a wanker, another great vid mate!
Thanks Maz!
So much data 😭 📉 love it 😻 burns makes the videos that we need to understand why AOC isn’t a new world or T&L
Thanks man! When ya boil it down, there's a huge difference between Ashes and NW/TL.