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  • @lyconxero457
    @lyconxero457 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

    The inter-cuts between the advice he's giving with examples of you NOT doing those things was just comedic gold!

  • @AStrangeWindmill
    @AStrangeWindmill 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I like the idea that JoCat has said all these things to Dipper, but nowhere near a meanly as JoCrap did.

  • @Mark73
    @Mark73 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    It is rare to find someone who can be hilarious and genuinely informative at the same time.

    • @TheRealKamizura
      @TheRealKamizura 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that is the power jocat wields. juggling comedy and information like they were flaming chainsaws. damn good at what he does..

  • @Blazieth
    @Blazieth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The best part is that that's not gibberish in that opening segment of the video, every one of those terms actually means something and is being used in proper context.

  • @wingedparagon4448
    @wingedparagon4448 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Done before the DRK rework where Living Death became useful. Aside from that, all still relevent :)

    • @phiefer3
      @phiefer3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And before TBN got outclassed by every other tank's 25s cd.

    • @goldskarr
      @goldskarr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now the worst invuln of the bunch is Superbolide. Is there an actual reason for why it drops you off on deaths doorstep on casting or is it just a desperate attempt to be different from the other jobs?

    • @2175Nono
      @2175Nono 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@goldskarr it gives you true invuln like hallowed ground except with a shorter cooldown. healers get a whole 10 seconds to heal you after that where you don't take any more damage unlike holmgang. it's actually one of the more useful invulns

  • @jaybainbridge6613
    @jaybainbridge6613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    I appreciate you including the tips Barbara taught you on last nights stream. Way too good!

  • @Joe-it2dh
    @Joe-it2dh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Pro tip: when you get revived within an AoE marker DO NOT MOVE!
    You have a few seconds of invulnerability after a res if you dont move or use any actions.

    • @Jossy40921
      @Jossy40921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      You can move and still keep the invul buff, just no actions.

    • @lionwhyte___2634
      @lionwhyte___2634 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah but the invulnerability is only like 2 seconds so it's more like you die, AoE pops up you shout "hooray I'm alive!" And then die AGAIN

    • @Jossy40921
      @Jossy40921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@lionwhyte___2634 If you don't do an action it's around 5-7 seconds, quite long so long as the only actions you do are wasd, any action other than those and moving your camera will remove the invuln immediately.

    • @lionwhyte___2634
      @lionwhyte___2634 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jossy40921 Ok but FF always has that pesky system where the boss/enemy AoE marker is sometimes slow and sometimes its instant so that's a ripe pain in the ass to figure out

    • @Jossy40921
      @Jossy40921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lionwhyte___2634 I can't refute that one. xD The weird server ticks in this game make slidecasting and snap shotting all kinds of annoying in some fights, it's even more pronounced in pvp where purify and guards animations can show, but the enemies ccs snap shotted before the animation fully completed so you'll still get cc locked down despite having cc immunity.

  • @akrob1152
    @akrob1152 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    3:23 tl;dr in normal content, use it when the boss is obviously charging an ultimate and there's a countdown. In higher end content, use tank lb to salvage an incoming mechanic failure, cheese mechanics, or cheese mitigation checks.
    Generally, in normal content, tank lb3 is only really used for boss ultimate "tank lb3 or die" moments. Such as in Seat of Sacrifice, or the Final Day, or the final alexander fight.
    It's only when you start getting into higher end content that tank lb use becomes more strategic. The most common use is using it survive a mechanic that would otherwise wipe the party with damage. This is seen most often with unresolveable towers; if you didn't know, "tower" is a catch-all term ffxiv raiders use to describe an aoe that must be stood in (aka "soaked") by at least one person. If a tower aoe goes off without anyone in it, it is usually followed by raidwide damage and some punishment of sorts; usually a vuln stack on everyone, or a dmg down on everyone.
    Starting at extreme content, a single tower failure is very punishing but salvageable (savage and upward, usually a single tower failure is an instant party wipe); multiple tower failures is usually a wipe. However, if a tank is aware that towers are going to be failed, they can LB, giving the party enough mit to survive the raidwide damage from tower explosions, letting the party recover when they otherwise would have wiped.
    The final use of tank lb I can think of - most often with tank lb3 - is deliberately cheesing mechanics. An example that comes to mind is grand octet, from ucob - I won't go into the entire mechanic, but there's a portion where 4 towers spawn, and 4 random people are marked with megaflare stacks (all the marker means is that you have to stack with other people with the same marker to share the damage; similar but different to a stack marker). The obvious intended solution is to have the 4 people marked for megaflare stack together, and the 4 other people take the towers. However, one person must bait a divebomb from the dragon, and the party must pay attention to whether that person gets a megaflare marker or not; if they do, then the other megaflare stacks must know to stack by the dragon getting baited (so that the baiter has time to join the stack), and if the baiter doesn't have a megaflare makrer the tower people need to leave a tower close to them open. PF is... rather bad, at random mechanics that require on-the-fly adjustment, so the preferred strat is to just tank lb3. With tank lb3, the megaflare marks may as well not exist and the mechanic is completely trivialized.
    Sometimes, but not often, tank lb is used to cheese mitigation. HH from the current savage tier comes to mind.

  • @KironX1
    @KironX1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    No matter how many times Dipper dies, she’ll never be as bad as Quinn69 😂

    • @gatecruor9292
      @gatecruor9292 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nobody will ever be as bad as him.

    • @hellfrozenphoenix13
      @hellfrozenphoenix13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "WhErE aRe Da HeElS!?!?"

    • @tenjenk
      @tenjenk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      everyone asks where are the heals, no one ever asks how are the heals.

  • @kazekamiha
    @kazekamiha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "I Should Have Watched This Sooner"
    Better late then never.

  • @Someone-dv7hw
    @Someone-dv7hw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's kind of funny because occasionally some tanks manage to not learn about turning their stances off until very high level... and at that point if a lvl90 tank activates stance, everyone in the party assumes he wants to main tank... the off tank just watches the chaos unfold as a dps hits the boss snd stance tank is forced to MT 😂
    We aint playing the provoke game at high levels anymore

  • @inoob26
    @inoob26 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When to use LB3: Streamer edition
    when everyone stand together in a group doing nothing while the Red Mage of your party for some reason starts casting their LB3

  • @Rakshiir
    @Rakshiir 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As a GNB main, this job is super fun. And the description in the crap guide is very accurate.

  • @cparle87
    @cparle87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    2:22 Falling. Falling never changes. From Amdapor to Amaurot, falling never changes.
    3:24 In MSQ the only ones I can think of are Elidibussy and Depression Birb. Last boss of the Alexmanderville fights too.
    6:10 Birb versus Dog. Birb wins.

    • @layerex3957
      @layerex3957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WE FAAAAAALL

    • @draochvar9646
      @draochvar9646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@layerex3957 UNTO THE EEEEEEEEND

  • @draochvar9646
    @draochvar9646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    TO BE FAIR here, taking a tank Noob and chucking them at content beyond their respective starting Lvl. (i.e. 60 for GNB) is kinda rough. I always found it easier to run a Duty Support or 8 at the appropriate Lvl. when first getting into a new job, just to get to know the flow of it before diving into harder content.

    • @Bladehound83
      @Bladehound83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, probably the biggest tip I can give any aspiring baby tank is to start with literally any of them other than Gunbreaker. I started with Gunbreaker and hated it because it was confusing having to think about things that DPS never have to do like positioning the boss and mitigation, so I never touched it again after hitting level 80. Months later I leveled Warrior and had a much better time since it starts at level 1 and I was eased into it a bit more instead of getting tossed into the deep end.

    • @draochvar9646
      @draochvar9646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bladehound83 weirdly enough, my experience was the complete opposite of yours. I started going Gunbreaker as my first Tank and loved every second of it. But then again, I informed myself about the class first and knew exactly what I was getting myself into, so that probably changed my perspective on things

  • @dreiz5403
    @dreiz5403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    'kay so "Do you know how to find a static in your FC to help you prog UWU", static means raid group whose members typically get together X times a week to try and kill bosses and stuff. FC is simply short for Free Company, so basically a guild. Prog is short for progress, meaning working on a boss' mechanics to get further and further in the fight until the kill is doable. As for UWU it's the acronym for 'Ultima Weapon Ultimate', one of the hardest boss fights in the game (though arguably the easiest of the 5), its true in-game name is "The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate)", but the community started calling it UWU 'cause.. You know, and it stuck.

  • @KylerStern366
    @KylerStern366 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Dipper's healers are OP lol

  • @soltymc172
    @soltymc172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    now watch the rest of the guides xD

  • @flameonboi
    @flameonboi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Will she remember how to use these skills, next time on dippers stream!

    • @mattjohnson7849
      @mattjohnson7849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We'll see tonight

    • @Dipperdog_RPGirl
      @Dipperdog_RPGirl  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I panic under stress! Lol

    • @ononokiii_2407
      @ononokiii_2407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dipperdog_RPGirl just dont panic 4head

    • @destrinbriar1019
      @destrinbriar1019 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dipperdog_RPGirl an easy way to do defenses is just get into a rotation. For trash sprint before pull and when they catch up you can arms length for 20% slow and reprisal for 10% less dmg taken. You can rampart when that ends. Then you start the next pull y po u do the same but with the 30% damage mitigation and close pull with reprisal for the 10% damage down. You can throw job specific mitigations to fill in gaps but all the tanks are baseline the same on big cooldowns. Except war.

    • @rajabuta
      @rajabuta 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are skills?

  • @abzhz101handle9
    @abzhz101handle9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:25 Final Coil, Turn 4, Ultima Fight (technically), Alexander Final Fight... Lots of Final Raids have a setpiece moment of super damage where they expect the Tank to pull out an LB3. Some raiders will also use it to skip annoying mechanics in higher difficulty content. So instead of having to do the annoying mechanic or everyone dies, Tank LB3 and keep going. Most of the time that only works on mechanics where failure just results in lots of damage rather than instant death and even then parties will probably only do that if they consider the mechanic *so* annoying that they consider it a coinflip or worse odds of getting through.

  • @mightymanatee5342
    @mightymanatee5342 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You should watch the rest of the Crap Guide videos. They are a riot.

    • @Dipperdog_RPGirl
      @Dipperdog_RPGirl  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Until I'm done with endwalker. Some have spoilers in it. I've been warned ⚠️ 😆

    • @mightymanatee5342
      @mightymanatee5342 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dipperdog_RPGirl That's fair. Lol

  • @zairman
    @zairman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is me in game. I can't remember most mechanics and I'm usually paying attention to buttons, my health, and other players and not seeing any markers. lol. But I also have ADHD so.....

  • @ojosama
    @ojosama 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dark Knights now have the best invulnerability in the game.

    • @BongSwansong
      @BongSwansong 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Holmgang spamming warriors would like to have a word with you.

  • @bandi138138
    @bandi138138 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jocat's guides are genuinely so good

  • @lapisstars
    @lapisstars 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The internet is gonna be a lot less happy without JoCat. We will miss his light, but if leaving content creation is what is best for him than we can only hope for the best for him in life.

  • @Noelle-M4
    @Noelle-M4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ITS ABOUT TIME

  • @veygusanima1734
    @veygusanima1734 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My old team mates sendet me the healer Video after my first Dungeon xD
    I learnt a bit and forgott half of it xD

  • @dacomputernerd4096
    @dacomputernerd4096 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are a few fights where tank's LB3 is required, but other than that I don't think it's all that useful

    • @apljack
      @apljack 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes it is nice to use if a death with fail a mechanic. Like a need to get all towers, and you know someone is dead. Tank LB3 can save a run for a clear. Rare chances to get it still, but it is there. Plus it is also a bit of a nice 'I hate this mechanic, I want to mostly ignore it' in some Savage fights. PF loves those moments, looking at P2S, P6S, P10S...

  • @Lemon_Force
    @Lemon_Force 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She probably just has trouble seeing the telegraphs with no pupils.

  • @BananaMellor
    @BananaMellor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay but that one death at the very end was the other tank murdering you with the 2nd tank buster. Or maybe JoCat should add a suggestion to NOT drop tank busters on your allies, not even the other tank?

  • @zsoltlang2144
    @zsoltlang2144 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so if the boss try to red ball you, you need someone to relieve you or you die, got it

  • @MrJjjakey
    @MrJjjakey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ngl I thought these edits were in the original video and you had gotten roasted by jocat LOL

  • @shingshongshamalama
    @shingshongshamalama 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excuse me what the heck was 0:23

  • @AnotherCrazyClown
    @AnotherCrazyClown หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man i miss JoCat stuff a lot :(

  • @CBeavr
    @CBeavr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:09 did everyone else see what i just saw there? She got hit by 2 instances of the tankbuster, meaning she was overlapping with the GNB, *but the GNB DIDN'T DIE,* NOR did it even seem like the GNB took 2 instances of dmg themselves! I feel like you just got massively bad luck with the spacing there...

    • @akrob1152
      @akrob1152 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not the case at all.
      Dipper had a vuln stack and no mit (seems she tried to press sentinel but it probably got snapshotted). Gunbreaker had no vuln stack and had at least Camouflage up, so they at least did mit.
      If the gunbreaker had catharsis of corundum up (from HoC) then they would have received the heal instantly the moment their HP got below 50%, which is why it might have looked like they took much less damage.

    • @CBeavr
      @CBeavr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@akrob1152 actually now that i look at it closer, looking at the health the GNB DID seem to take twice the damage on the party list than what was shown on the actual damage numbers, so maybe they DID take a double TB just was able to survive due to mitigating on time (also if the GNB had catharsis of corundum at that time, we'd have seen the debuff disappearing on the actual character, same as brutal shell did)

  • @blackfox4138
    @blackfox4138 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    In all fairness, I'd definitely say that Tank is the most difficult role to get into. DPS is just DPS, so all you need to worry about is dealing damage. Healing is just being a DPS on your friends. Tank is when you need to be the leader of the party and make sure that everyone is safe. The Tankxiety is real, and there's no shame is messing up a LOT in it. It just requires enough practice to get your confidence boost up. Also, the best Tankbuster mits for each Tank are Blackest Night for DRK, Heart of Corrundum for GNB, Sheltron for PLD, and Bloodwhetting for WAR. These all have very short cooldowns and offer additional supportive buffs.

    • @robertmarsh5322
      @robertmarsh5322 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I respectfully disagree. All roles can be summed up as easy with room for extra credit and depth. Tank is no different, push one button once (stance), and tag every enemy in the combat at least once. You can now tank most content, everything else is skill building and extra credit. All groups wipe from time to time for a variety of reasons, just learn and move on, same expectation as any player in any role.

    • @rajabuta
      @rajabuta 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pffttt still thinking tank is leeader. 😂

    • @XCC23
      @XCC23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertmarsh5322 Tank's *easy* but I think it's the one that people mentally psyche themselves out over more, compared to healer and dps.

    • @fluffyfang4213
      @fluffyfang4213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like being the leader of the party doesn't really apply to FFXIV since the default pull is wall-to-wall and those are a team effort to handle. Making sure that everyone is safe is literally the healer role (with a special shoutout to PLD's Cover).

    • @robertmarsh5322
      @robertmarsh5322 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fluffyfang4213 As a note wall to wall is a good default as it means everyone has something to do. A tank that knows their shit can do single pack pulls... alone. No healer and maybe not even any DPS. But that's the thing, this only applies if you know your crap and are running that pull like its a raid boss. Only time I have ever given someone crap was in a Castrum Meridianum run where "single pack" pulls were only doing maybe 10% damage to the tank. no healing needed at all. not even a stress to the hp bar, it was slow and boring and only reason I couldn't make a point about it is was as lvl 50 NIN I didn't have the tools to quite solo a single pack without some serious kiting.

  • @wowplayer00
    @wowplayer00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:48 yeah only if your male. Female does something else i thing it is putting the blade into the ground.