World of Tanks - Sweaty Badger
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2021
- In which Placebo gets a bit sweaty in his badger. Sometimes these titles just write themselves.
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It's bad because it's called BADger and not GOODger. I'll see my self out, thank you for the applause
Slow clap at best😂
I'll get your coat....
Same bro I hate Badger. I prefer Tortoise ar tier IX. Tortoise has same DPM as Badger at tier IX, pretty much same gun handling, same depresion, better gun traverse limit, I would say Tortoise has better armour tier per tier and same HP. Badger is faster but it is steel so slow in tier X meta. I love Tortoise at tier IX but Badger for me is very painful to play.
@@adioperta1451 if you want real pain and suffering, try a Grille at tier 10. It's such a pathetic replacement for the Waffentrager some of WG mgt should have been dismissed. Allegedly the gun is .27 or something, but it's actually about as accurate as arty.
@@cgilleybsw Just like with Tortoise and Badger. I would rather play WT auf pz IV at tier IX. Grille is faster and it has higher alpha. But WT's gun at tier IX feels so much better. Gun handling is amazing, 560 alpha steel very good, DPM is amazing and penetraion valeus and APCR shells are crazy. And Grille has terrible cammo but WT has fantastic cammo and it can turn turret 360° unlike Grille.
"Help me, Doc, my tank's exploding."
"Merely a Placebo effect."
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A friend in need is a friend indeed.
A friend with HEAT is better.
A friend who crests spots for the rest.
And takes the storm for plebbers.
Understandable have a nice day
Jingles in a trench : "Dont worry boys there are still 5 of us"
The 4 other in the trench : "oh *****..."
At the risk of sounding like "actually Jingles", there's a few things I think need a bit of clarification in regards to why the Badger has a bit of a polarizing reputation depending on who's playing it.
A lot of people consider it a downgrade to the Tortoise, especially tier for tier. The main problem with the Badger lies in its armor profile, which is simultaneously ridiculously good and ridiculously bad.
On a ridgeline, where it gets to use its gun depression and hide its only real main weakspot, the lower plate, the Badger is virtually unkillable. The only things you'll need to watch out for are Tier 10 tds firing gold, and artillery.
But that is its main problem, this only works on a ridgeline
On flat ground, if it's unable to hide the lower plate, it's extremely vulnerable. The gun arc is good, but not enough to be able to angle the tank well enough to hide the lower plate and return fire. Angling the side at a 45 degree angle is a horrible idea, because people won't shoot at the upper parts of the side armor, rather they'll shoot at the front drive wheel, both tracking you and dealing damage.
Compared to the Tortoise, which has a noticeably wider gun arc(which means you can angle the armor better), and the only weakspot being the cupola, the Badger is basically a completely different playstyle to the tortoise. The Badger excels on a defensive playstyle, taking a ridgeline and holding it with its extremely good damage output. But it's not the rolling traumatic event that is the Tortoise, a tank that is far more capable for an assault.
The Badger's not a bad tank by any means, but it's a completely different beast to the Tortoise, and can feel like a downgrade especially in regards to overall playstyle..
"Rolling traumatic event that is the tortoise" I burst out laughing at that. Glorious and so true
@@Kellen6795 same xD That was a great metaphor he used
In addition, the lower Alpha and higher rate of fire of the Tortoise gives you the ability to nearly perma-track enemies.
The tortoise also has better match making given you're often not in tier 10 gold fests and the gun's faster RoF makes is easier to perma track people for the 15-20 secs it takes to kill them.
I tried to love this tank but it just sucks in this meta. The maps encourage close up battles, not open areas. Arty has basically been removed but it used to be a major problem. The gold ammo is the major killer; the badger's gold ammo pen still sucks for killing the other armor bricks, and most everybody else gets 340mm+ pen on their gold ammo. The whole front of the tank is easily penned by other tanks gold ammo. Once you're targeted, the badger is too slow to run away.
The badgers biggest sin, was replacing the death star.
*Gold spam untensifies*
In all fairness the Death Star really came from nowhere in that line
@@stevethegeck0 Imo only in appearance, not role. The Toroise is a Frontline-Machine, that can lead the Attack or Support the Defence. The Deathstar is the same, although it approaches these roles from a completely differen angle. The Badger (mainly due to it's armor-layout and gunarc, but also due to it not beeing extreme enough in either RoF to guarantee a Perma-Track or Alpha for the Fearfactor) is more a Mainline-Defense, that can support some attacks (depending on MM and Map), making it quite different even though in both Optics and Stats it's closer to the Tortoise.
Could be wrong, ofc, i've only ever played against all 3 Tanks, so far haven't owned any of them (an won't ever with the Deathstar, sadly).
@@astrofan8775 the Deathstar would be more appropriate after a tank line more similar to the T95, rather than a line whose whole gimmick is armor and RoF. The Deathstar had workable armor but really is about the big gun, which is completely contrary to the rest of the line leading up to it. The Badger fits it perfectly, and being able to work around armor weaknesses is something that should be learned at the AT-15 and Tortoise, with the huge MG ports on the tops of the tanks.
@@stevethegeck0 Problem is the Badger's weakspot is not one that you can cover by angling, which is why it plays so different, it has a lower plate, which you can only cover up on hills or in some specific areas of maps, making you more stationary in effect than the Tortoise or AT-15, as these ones can just angle around a corner or from behind an ally to cover most, if not all of their weakspots, making them much more flexible on the attack (unless against Gold, ofc, but almost no armor really helps against that at higher tiers).
But i do get you, it's just that i'm not scared of the Badger, as i know he can't perma-track me, and doesn't have the scary alpha, where as the Tortoise is scary for me, because once caught i'm dead (if my Rep-Kit is on CD, otherwise the Badger is scarier due to the higher Alpha). That's why i came to my conclusion that in effect the Deathstar is more similiar in Role to the Tortoise than the Badger is, because the spotted Badger isn't really scary, unless i have to cross an open field, which i only really have to do when i attack.
Plot twist: ‘Sweaty Badger’ is also Jingles stage name. 🕺😝
No, that's his son's. His would be old sweaty badger 🙃
And I always thought it was 'Jack the Stripper'....
I thought it would be sweaty gnome lol
Dare I ask what kind of stage?
@@notbobrosss3670 TH-cam safe answer: stand up comedy
Actual answer: we don't talk about that
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Minds? What minds?
I work in salt mine me no need mind :D
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wait..... we had em?
@@johndjones6829 what??? Someone else is here in the saltmine? ? ?
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Actually Jingles!
*shotgun clicking*
*shotgun aimed*
*bang*
@@kieranpayne8906 *and the dirt is gone!*
Brings a body bag
loses 15k credits despite heroic carrying efforts.
Yeah, that's world of tanks' economy for you.
he spammed a ton of gold, dont do that and make a profit. Pay2pen ammo for a reason. The main reason he won aswell is spamming premium ammo at lower tier tanks.
@@Nautules83 depends on tank, depends on how much u loose. would he have made any credit if he had depleted all ammo and lost?
@@Nautules83 no, without premium you will always lose credits unless you have a top tier god like game
annnddd that's why i quit playing. WoWs is becoming the way, nerfed economy saturated with overpowered russian dream ships.
Actually Jingles, the IS-3-II only had the 100mm gun with 300 alpha damage and so couldn't win the match at the end with a high damage roll.
Sorry, gotta keep the meme alive somehow...
Just means the IS-3-II completely missed the opportunity to make an utterly clutch last second lower glacis double pen. That's how this battle should've ended, not with glory but the ignominy of getting double-tapped by a B-tier meme tank.
@@davidturner7577 how is the is2-2 a memetank? i had it two marked after 82 games and loved it
@@casualgaming6000 I believe it has the lowest 3rd mark requirements and lowest winrate of all tier 8 heavies. Even Amx 65t is higher.
@@shmekelfreckles8157 aaah I see. Would explain how I 2 marked the stg aswell
Irrelevant with how many shots he whiffed into the tracks before that.
i dont come here for the games, i come here to hear Jingles giggle to his own jokes
Oh thank God, engine noise. The key to any video that anyone cares about!
"Badgers? ...... BADGERS? ..... We don't NEED no stinkin' badgers" - The Treasure of the Sierra Madre movie.
Or if you’re from my generation, a line from Blazing Saddles which has made it’s way into many a conversation in the last 30 years.
@@playwme3 My above badger line was also used in Weird Al Yankovic's movie UHF.
AAAcchooallly Jingles, I didn't google anything. Well... nothing worth sharing.
You have in fact shown the badger before, brawling on the edge of some ruined arches and buildings and a field.
You should make a series of "Actually, Jingles", where you show how everyone explained that you were "wrong". Similar to "Um, actually".
I second this!
Ok ok going back in the mine for my 7 triple shifts.
War gaming putting a completely fictional vehicle into one of their games, I don’t believe it.
The vehicle could at least have existed in drawing there were a lot of early 1950's casemate tank destroyer designs based off of the Conqueror's chassis.
The issue is the gun since the guns would have been 4.7inch (120mm), 5.5inch (140mm), 6inch (152mm) or 7.2inch (183mm). With the 5.5inch designs using an early simplified auto loader allowing a ROF of 8 rounds a minute based off of a new naval gun loading system that entered service on a 6inch gun with a ROF of 20 rounds a minute .
The 123mm gun which is fictional but also not broken like a 140mm gun autoloader would have been though less fun lol.
@@Ushio01 Really it should have just gotten the 5.5in gun the Conway gets. 600 average damage a shot would by no means have been bad at tier X. As it stands it's still not bad and it basically plays like a Ferdinand with a working upper casemate.
@@Ushio01 It actually reached the stage of maquette, so it wasn't fictional at all, unlike Kampfpanzer 50t that only existed in outline sketch and there was no blueprints or anything else.
The IS-3-II had the 300 alpha damage gun, so he did not have a chance to win at the end there.
If he hadn't bounced 3 shots in a row, he could have won, even with the stock 100mm gun
@@cubrakadabra that's true, I'm just saying this because Jingles says at the end that the IS-3-II missed his chance on the last shot, which isn't true since he couldn't possibly roll that high.
@@cubrakadabra Exactly.
I’m thirsty for a Jingles WOT video right now. Glad to be here
I'm reminded of that daft "5% premium ammunition" statement WG made some time ago. A spiteful old part of me wishes they would actually enforce it as an in-game design choice and force vehicles to carry no more than 5% (rounded up) of their ammo load as premium rounds.
I am well aware of some of the things that would do, but it would certainly slow the tide of armor creep and penetration creep we've been having in the past five years.
exactly. I am sick of trying to heavy tank and mediums just press 2. worst game mechanic out there. cant play WoT? press 2. cant tactic? press 2. Cant aim or work out weak points? press 2.
@@CSpiv662 I also wonder how many blue and purple players would be merely average if they didn't have the overwhelming penetration advantage of premium ammo all the time.
@@subtlewhatssubtle they would still be purple. You need to know how the game works to play well.
@@shmekelfreckles8157 Sure, but without the safety net of carrying only premium ammunition, how high would those population numbers actually be versus what they are currently on the servers?
Now the truly skilled players with great gamesense and reflexes wouldn't be hurt too badly, but I'd be willing to take the bet that, if premium ammo was limited to just 5%, the lower spread of blues would probably be greens and some of the lower spread of purples might just be blues.
Baaadgers, they are the badgers!
They stand for freedom and democracy!
Badgers, they are the badgers yeah!
Baaaadgers, they are the Badgers! They fight for freedom, but mostly money!
No war crimes here folks! Move along!
last time I was this early tier 10 light tanks didn't exist
Last time I was this late I was the only one left alive on my team after a pee break
Actually Jingles, its pronaunced "Rubbish" not "Trash", Silly Jingles
Actually James, its spelled "pronounced" not "pronaunced". Silly James.
@@blackdog7859 Actually BlackDog, it's written "Jamest543" not "James".
Sweaty Badger, there my safe words..
Accckkkkshually Jingles, a tank 20 feet in front of you would have been proxy-spotted long before that.
Sweaty Badger was the name of our grunge band back in the 90's.
" it's far from a bad tank, unless your definition of a good tank is the Russian or Chinese medium that zips around the battlefield faster than other nations' light tanks, then instantly turns into a heavy tank the moment you get it hull down and mash your face all over the 2 key."
Hey, Miners, we've got a new salt vein over here, grab your picks!
Not gonna lie, the game IS turning I to that. If I can't afford premium ammo because I can't afford to spend money on this game and I'm running low on silver (ig currency), then how am I supposed to be competitive?
It's honestly getting to the point where I can't play anything above tier 5, for fear of losing my shirt.
I get by, and I do that by aiming. True, having gold helps, but aiming helps even more.
If you lose money by playing up to tier8, then you are fine with tier5 gameplay. ;)
I can't believe I am saying this, but I think the solution might be to add more armored cars. Hear me out first. If you look at War Thunder they have armored cars present in the tech trees of multiple nations serving primarily in the light tank and TD lines. It might be good more add more fast vehicles that run circles around Soviet and Chinese tanks.
@@emberfist8347 if you truly want to kill WoT then sure add in even more clown cars
@@CSpiv662 War Thunder has tons of armored cars and it still going strong
Just to come back and say actually Jingles!?! Why thats a preposterous accusation Lord Jingles! We're just your ever so loyal Salt Miners answering the call for Salt, Crown & Country!
I really do enjoy watching your uploads, cheers 👍
Wow, just - wow, amazing match, thanks Jingles!
"Sir, we're surrounded." "No Corporal, we're in a Target Rich Environment."
Impressive work!
Wow Jingles !!!..............enjoyed a lot, .....the tension..... I myself am sweating just watching it, incredible !!!!
that rewind at the end was awesome
Dude. Well played Placebo. Congrats on that victory!
I was expecting an epic TH-camr crossover video with that title.
Actually, Jingles.
I love these epic comebacks!
used to love runnin my T-50-2 through the magic forest. Good times
Aktshually Jingles, i am going to just sit here and enjoy the video!
I have experience with sweaty badgers...
Actually Jingles, I think you're correct this is the first Badger video on the channel. Jolly good job, Knomelord.
Thanks Jingles
Now THAT was a good game!
Thanks J Man :)
Now that was fun to watch. GG Placebo
All the other team had to do was push into the last 3 tanks together
Yeah, can't tell you how many matches I lose due to my tier 10 allies all camping an open cap while being destroyed by 1-2 medium tanks or light tanks. Never understood why people spend way too much money to free exp their way up from nothing to tier 10 and then convince the entire team that 1 or 2 individuals cost them the game. So naturally everyone reports whatever person because this 40 battle tier 10 30%er said so 😂
IS-3 II hits the badger in the Butt. Jingles: Took another hit from that M46.
Crazy vid
Actually Jingles, we have all the time in the world, cause we can pause the video to do the search! :P
and here I thought tonight would be awful, Jingles here again to save my sanity
A Magic Forest? Reminds me of a drinking challenge with a glass of beer and peppermint liquor. On the way to the Forest one gulp of beer is drunk and then the glass is refilled. When the glass is all green you successfully arrived in the forest. On your way back you just gulp the green and refill with beer. The rumor has it that nobody came back from the magic forest so far. So now you know what's going on in Murovanka ;)
Thanks Jingles.
“YOU LET A WHOLE COLUMN GET STALLED AND STRAFED BECAUSE OF A COUPLE JACKASSES!?”
I can't help but imagine how technical and skill-oriented a game World of Tanks could be at any tier, if only gold ammo didn't exist.
But it's a free to play game. Have to have *some* way to pay to win, right?
Actually Jingles, that’s not a lemming train. GTA V has taught us that trains keep moving forward no matter what.
This is more like a Boyscout Camping Trip.
Jingles I need to sleep
The beauty of the Tortoise is that it does have well-known and obvious weakpoints, and people usually dont't immidiately hit 2 key and farm it, but rather try to hit the weakpoints. And even if they are spamming gold, you still can wiggle around and move, blocking lots of damage anyway. Badger just a boring tank following the new meta, with no weakpoints whatsoever, so people just spam gold at it. They did the same to the old 263 with 268-4. Removing the fun and skill needed to play.
As for the Badgers armour - I'm pretty sure one of the major issues pointed out when it was first introduced was lower front plate - it is quite a huge hunk of metal with "only" ~238mm effective.
This is NOT bad, but consider it is bound to be compared to Tortoise.
Suddenly the armour on Badger doesn't look that hot - sure, superstructure is great, but the lower front plate presents an annoying and easy to hit weakspot.
Tortroise is more consistent in armour layout from the front.
The major complaint was - Badger is hardly an improvement over Tortoise - it is more mobile, arguably weaker armoured, but gets worse MM spread at Tier10, while having only marginally better DPM and far worse gun angles.
Jingles, you DO realize that a sweaty badger is also a STINKY badger?!? ;^}
"We live in a world where 272mm of penetration is considered bad", no one tell him there's ATGMs with over 1400mm of penetration
Not in WoT tho
"there's ATGMs with over 1400mm of penetration"
"Not in WoT tho"
wargaming : "how can we best implement these to milk the cashcow...?"
@@maxmustermann8247 well they made the sheridan ATGMS into crappy HEAT shells so idk
@@cubrakadabra i stopped p(l)aying WoT like 4 years ago so i can't say for sure either.
Just the title had me in hysterics 😁
Haven't seen this tank in forever
You know jingles is out of shape, when he sweats from using Google
It's nervous sweating due to his search history
ACTUALLY JINGLES
I didn't google if you've featured the badger yet 🤣
i quickly checked through all his world of tanks videos in the last 2 years and didnt find a video on the badger
The scouting Maus is amazing! More people need this but at tier VI; you know, that tank.... that needs no other introductions
Ohhhhh!!! Good Battle!
Nice Machine.
Badgers? Don't got no Badgers. Don't need no Steeenkin' Badgers.
"Look, if we built this large wooden badger . . ."
*CLANK*
aaaaaaaaactually jingles.... i just felt like saying that lol
Just here to remind you ppl that the obj 705a has an upper plate which can, when not angled, bounce ONLY half of all known tier X gold rounds 😂
Well that's trash. Buff it.
@@able_archer01 Sure thing comrade, in Soviet Russia we always need buff.
Jingles seems to left out a bit. Badger players were coming from the tortoise, which had a different armor profile and got a super heavy spall liner, while the badger could only get a heavy spall liner. Recent changes have negated the spall liner difference but at the time it was added to the tech tree, that was an important difference for a tank that was guaranteed to draw major arty fire. It also didn't help that the Badger relied on "effective" armor rating that went out the window when your enemy got any kind of height advantage. So there were a few more reasons it was not well received.
You can technically understand what shot at you from the caliber, angle and penetration, and a good tanker might know this. So I guess that's Wargamings' reasoning. But it definitely is an Arcade-y information.
" Lemming Train " a rare thing in today's great game. Nah, kidding... Certain loose material.
Oh wow. Thought it was going to be an unhappy ending
7:07 It's not just that no 123mm gun was ever fielded by the British Army. I'm pretty sure that no gun of that particular caliber has ever been fielded by *anyone* anywhere on Earth.
Neat
is that the AC sounding in the background ey? ;D Sweaty Jingles!
AcTuAlLy jingles the magic forest was remodeled before the 1.0 update
Mushroom, mushroom
SNAAAAAAAAKE, ITSA SNAAAKE!
I liked that meta of the dark murky forest. It was a proxy of the cold war; just that in WoT; the clock is ticking and there usually Has to be A winner (in that the cold war; winners are not as easily measured)
Never understood why wargaming thought it was a good idea to make shot indicators so accurate and added the name of the tank who shot.
The enemy team would've won 10 minutes ago if they only capped. Another battle decided by "no cap kill all"
Noice!
Jingles!
ooo very good after doing training
I loved the magic forest so much. I miss over the top map features in the game today
After the first 8 minutes I thought you just chose this replay so you can talk about the Badger ... boy was I wrong.
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as somebody who tried to three mark the grille 15, i can confidently say that 270-280 pen on t10 tds is not nearly enough, the amount of times that thing bounces is a miracle, and the second-best accuracy in the game means nothing because its a german gun so it hit outside the aiming circle half of the time, and the heat just gets eaten up by spaced armor as intended, apcr would make a far better gold ammo for it.
I had a thought: I can't remember why jingles quit featuring War Thunder videos as often as he did years ago and it's eating away at my soul that I can't remember this uhh little help with joggin' my memory anyone?
There was a bit of a controversy. Was it about banning people from the forums or something?
He also never featured Warthunder that much but his enthusiasm has cooled a bit.
@@kaltaron1284 Thanks very much for the memory joggin' and you wouldn't happen to know which World of Warships video Jingles released years back when he featured at the end a group of battleships brawling up close and personal, as is the way, but he had Mars, The Bringer of War playing in the background, since i would very much like to see that one again please...
@@thehandofdeath2106 You're welcome. I tried finding the video about Gaijin but it's not on the playlist but that one hasn't been updated in ages.
Can't help you with the BB one really but there's one called "I want to hit him with my sword" or somethings like that.
That sounds like one of Jingles’ lost ”Why you heff to be mad” series videos
@@Paveway-chan Might be, the channel is missing quite a few videos IIRC. Damn copyright.
You will notice the Russian math at the end of the game reads -15584 but it should actually be -43555.
Disappointed, Jingles - I was hoping you'd be working into your commentary the great Canadian lovemaking position called... ... The Sweaty Badger.
Too bad, so sad.
I love the gold spam reference :) and cannot agree more :) but hey... WG is from Belarus... if there is money to earn, they will sell own mothers
Great gameplay! 😊 Thank you for an entertaining video, as allways Jingles! 👍😊
I just wish the game was less pay to win, like in the old days...
and lost 15k credits, no justice
sure there is, spamming premium ammo at lower tier tanks to purchase the win. No one in their right mind would want that to make a profit.
@jingles, Please take the Badger on a Gnomearion run. It has to be possible by now.
Look at the bottom 7 tanks on the red team, by experience earned, and you will understand the result of this battle. A 60TP that does a whole 640 dmg... Object 704 that does zero dmg... etc
Ace Tanker 9 kills, 9300 damage done all those medals and a WIN....lost money yes thats tier 10 in World of tanks