I own a 2019 RE Interceptor, one of the earliest models since its launch in Nov 2018. Purchased in Jan 2019, it initially had a wobbling issue above 100 kmph. Surprisingly, a simple fix resolved it. A puncture led me to a local tyre shop, where I discovered the tube was incorrect for an 18-inch rim, likely intended for a Honda Unicorn or Shine. Changing to the correct size tube eradicated the wobble, even at speeds of 160 kmph. Check your front tube size - it should be 100/90/18.
Wow! Thank you for telling me this information. If only I knew this back in 2022. And if only I had not got the outex tubeless kit installed on it. 🙏🏽 I will pin this comment so that more people can see this solution.
Wow 🤩 A new solution for wobble issue ! You fought out against all the demons, you might be the risen angel 👼 for all the 650 twins folks out there ! Thanks for this video. 👏
I've test driven continental gt and interceptor too, and faced this issue in both of them, fews years back and shared this with showroom owner as well, but nobody looked at this seriously and eventually i never got a chance to make my mind in buying this bike. But thanks to you, now i can look forward to it. Thank you.
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable feedback. The Interceptor 650 now comes with Ceat Tyres, but they are not tubeless. Otherwise I’d have gone with them only. Sad that people at RE showrooms will not look into this as their main goal is always going to be sales. Best to write to RE directly and sharing video feedback. I’ll try this once and address this issue.
I am very much interested for this bike, but this wobbling issue and tubeless things are stopping me . Can't drag 200kg punctured bike , few practical issue should hav been solved by RE
@@nirnaynayak2445 Just go for it. The bike is just awesome. I bought it 6 mo ths back and clocked close to 6500 kms. Yes I encountered the wobble after my 1st puncture, wheel alignment was the issue. Took good amount of time for RE to sort out. But this should not stop you from buying this beast. I still never regret buying this beautiful beast. I even tour on this machine. 👌👌👌
Looks like the wobbling is due to eventual uneven wear in the tyres. Do keep us posted on your Timsun Tyres wear and tear. Long term review on these would be helpful
Thank you for enlightening us! I currently have the same issue now with the phantoms on my Continental GT650. Going fornnew tires next week after watching this ⚡️⚡️😆😆
Quick question mate, did you check in high speeds around 150-160km of course with hands on the handlebar, because my continental gt 650 will start wobbling after i cross 140km
Now that I have reached 9k kms - I have suddenly started getting the wobble. I was also very happy that, no wobble issues. I will mostly get the RE alloys and the new set of tyres Saving :)
Sometimes the problem is with the wheel's balance. They do this every time they change the tires, so perhaps it wasn't the tire after all. I've heard they don't do the balancing properly at the factory.
@@MaheshKarkera the idea is to check for wobbles. It doesn’t affect anyone at all. If the wobble is there, your shoulders will fatigue very quickly. That’s why the issue needs fixing.
@@SrinivasGanesh ok that means ease of riding is hampered if such an issue exists.. got it bro thank you for the Guidance will check it on my classic 350 reborn as well..
@@SrinivasGanesh I made a mistake. I am actually running 17 rear and 18 front. I swapped the rear rim to the front for the new wider profile tyre and replaced the rear with a Racing Boy 17" 4.50 rim. Don't ask me why i did that i am new to motorcycles(clueless) and this is a common and popular mod amongst the twin riders here in Thailand so I went along with it. Lol. Good thing is, it turned out good(beginner's luck lol). Bike feels more eager to lean and those mt60rs give me alot more confidence than the stock pirellis. Wobbling went away like magic. Thank God. The stance of the bike changed a little. More aggressive now imho. Total damage was less than 500 dollars all in. 1 rim, tyres front and rear and balancing, alignment. It was alot of work. But worth it. :)
Great video mate, I had the exact same problem with my StreetTwin. A new front tyre solved the issue. 1st tyre OEM made in Brazil. 2nd tyre made in Indonesia. Both Pirelli Phantom. I can imagine how relieved you must have felt once the problem was solved. 👍
That is 100% true. I’ve also been told if you buy pirelli tyres as opposed to the ones that came fitted from factory. There’s a big difference in the quality. Not sure how much of that is true but I found it to be interesting.
It's just the wheel alignment issue caused by the shope who made your spoked wheels run tubeless tyres or the imbalance of mass caused when you solved the two puncher's
Hello, I have clocked 13.5k kms on my interceptor.. The tyre look good .. but they started to wobble after crossing 80kmph(leaving both the hands). Could you suggest me anything with your experience.. I have taken the bike to SVC, they tuned the wheel, checked the foundation bolts.. said they were loose and now the issue is solved, but again.. that is still persisting.. Could you help me out
Use the tyre depth measuring tool to measure the tyre depth. Many a time the tyres 'look' good but are not. So that is the only sure shot way to find out. If the tool says the tyre is worn out then you know the solution.
I’ve mentioned several measures to solve the wobbling issue. If by changing tyres it gets resolved then great. If not, there are other ways like I mentioned in the video. 🫶🏽 ty for watching
Questions come to mind: 1) Did you check the balance of both wheels? The tires might have had uneven mass distribution, which manifested in a wobble as the rubber gradually wore down. 2) Did you check the lateral runout of both wheels with a dial indicator? The tire may have gotten distorted with wear, or the rims may have gone non-planar or non-perpendicular with the axis of rotation. 3) Did you check the radial runout of both wheels with a dial indicator? The over-tightening of a spoke points to this having been a problem the mechanic found. 4) Was the steering quicker when you went to tubeless tires?
Wow! thank you for these insights. I will pin this comment so others can also benefit from it. I checked the balance on both wheels, it was fine. 2 and 3, yes and yes, Measured the depth of tyre, it was worn out. The steering is now better. Thank you for commenting and for watching the video!
@@SrinivasGanesh - Your mention of an Outex tubeless conversion is the 1st report (in English) that I've seen. Do you recall what the immediate effect was on the steering? Was it easier to initiate and/or complete a turn? Did the front wheel follow road bumps better, i.e. with less time spent airborne or unloaded? Did you sense more control during high speed bumpy turns?
@@daveinwla6360 yep. The outex tubless conversion, in my opinion makes the ride much smoother and plush. It is definitely easier to take turns. Thank you for your comment and for watching the video!
I feel the pain bro. Purchased alloy wheels, then thought it was too heavy for tyres to replaced with spoke wheel. Same coneset bearing test, Fork oil test. In all the hassle I almost spent the amount I would got the tyres for.... And to add to all this was the hassle and pain to get it fixed. Thank you for the videos bro. I'll go for mrf tyres after my int completes 7-8K on my pireeli ones.
The way you present the problem, and the way you make a step by step explanation really made me watch it til the end, because it could really be any of these issues, I’m currently having this on my classic 500, i just put a new front tire but the rear is old, maybe this could be the issue, or maybe not hhahahaah, but this video gave me knowledge of what to do. Keep the good work
I recently experienced wobbling on my almost new (2000 kms clocked a few days back). This has never happened while riding with a pillion and I have carefully tested it at 60,80 and 100 kmph. On our recent trip (myself, same pillion and around 30kg of luggage), I noticed wobbling at 80kmph and haven't been able to understand the reason. As we are back now, I am yet to try out again and see if the wobbling still exists (with the pillion but without the luggage). A little context before I ask you this... Could the luggage be the reason for wobbling?
There could be one of the reasons that I point out in the video, could be because of the unevenness of the road as well. Luggage could be a reason as well, that is only if they were not balanced, or weighed differently on either sides. Please keep us posted if you were able to find the reason.
Felt good ... reason ..... realistically done 👍🏿 keep rolling brother 🤘 i really appreciate all the pain u took it so nicely... great job on ur patience ☺️
Mod the bike to 17inch alloy wheels and wider also. Rear 160 front 120. Rear is lighter by 4kg and front by 700 grams. Now it corners like its on rails sport bike handling. No more wobble wobble. Handling is agile and lighter. Accelerate and brake better too. And no more inner tube tire😂. Very easy to find 17” tires everywhere. Best mod so farr -
OMG !!, I had the same issue of tires losing air pressure very quickly. Recently I had the wheel aligned for completely different reason, and now I think the issue is gone.
I own an interceptor 2022 model, I actually bought it after watching your videos Sri, even this one. I didn't experience any wobbling issues on my interceptor but now after 5000kms I am having it on my bike as well, I have the stock ceat tyres installed, I have reported it to Re service center and they weren't able to do anything about it as well. I do like these ceat tyres.. their grip and everything is pretty good but after watching this video again I think ill change it after a couple of thousand kilometres or so because this wobbling issue is very irritating
Congratulations on getting the bike!! Wohoo! But don’t let this wobbling issue let you down. Just be careful and have fun while riding the bike! Thank you for watching my videos! You rock!
@@SrinivasGaneshSame here. My bike has Ceat tires as stock, and I'm facing the same wobbling issue that started at 5500 Kms. RE service centers are not even checking it. I'll try Timsun, but the front tyres are mostly out of stock. Can you suggest any other tire options and websites to buy from?
A very informative video. Root cause analysis and trial & error elimination process for wobbling issue. Finally sorted, congrats and keep riding safe.. Do look for uneven wear on the tread pattern of both tyres..
Update of my Wobbling 650 : after 3 years my Bike suddenly started Wobbling. I went to the showroom let them check and nothing happened. But after 6-7 months I changed my front tyres too but it still didn't help, it was still wobbling, But last week i changed my Interceptor 650 Bolt Bearing Racer, and suddenly the wobbling never occurred anymore. It was stable as a Rock.
Srinivas again....love it the way u do the root cause analysis and the information is absolutely beneficial for fellow owners. Thank you. Happy and safe riding. ✌
@@SrinivasGanesh yeah, glad you're fine and all. I also have a gt 650 but it doesn't wobble rn and hearing from everyone makes me think it might in the future sadly Anyway I am glad that you're fine and bine too also, enjoy your ride and it was a lovely video thanks for the tips I'll keep in mind if mine ever wobbles
Thank you for your wishes, yes that is true, but fortunately you have all the solutions in front of you, in the off chance that should you encounter any problems. And this is why I make content. Cheers brother. Ride safe!@@shscript
The wobbling, in my motorcycle, was due to tyre manufacturing defect. Hence upon changing that, the wobbling was gone. Steering damper won’t be able to reduce wobbling if it is caused by bad tyres.
Good video, very informative and helpful. Thanks a ton! Next time can you please keep the background music low? It is a disturbance in such a good narration.
Unlikely to be the tires, unless the tires were not balanced - then you should have your tires balanced. if you were being very picky you would ask a machine shop to balance you wheel without a tire in a machine shop. then back at the garage balance the tire on the wheel. The wobble was most likely caused by incorrect tension on the wire spokes. the rims could also be distorted also a very common issue. Another contributory factor could have a single weight fork oil. dirt inside one fork leg also can cause this. But the usual cause is a bent or out of true fork leg. If you have a problem and your mechanic didn't fix then your going to the wrong mechanic and you risk doing serious damage to your bike
Thank you for your input brother. The tyres were balanced, once from the certified RE service center and one from a reputed workshop outside of RE. The tension was resolved and the wobbling was still there. As in, on the machine it was spinning without any fuss and wobble. But starts to wobble when the bike was on the road again. And Like I mentioned in the video, I got the fork oils checked as well. They were intact. No sign of leakage, dirt, etc. i went a step further and installed front adjustable suspensions from YSS, using a different grade oil. Then checked the forks for signs of bending, there weren’t any. So final solution, as stated in the video, was to change the tyre. I did, and now no wobble at speeds above 80 till 120. I’m happy.
I had the same problem with my Continental GT650 , brand new at 120 km/h very very wobble, from my experience it was a problem in the wheel balance, I take it to the dealership and ask to check wheel balance, they said that it as ok but I think they did nothing because the problem continues, my bike is stock with tires and rubber tube. After 4000 km the problem is vanished……. Maybe the tire, rim and rubber tube all have matched in the end. But the wobbly is bad wheel balance or tire deformation
Funny this came up in my feed, I picked up a Honda CBF1000 in the UK recently and they all wobble like this when you take your hands off the bars. Wonder if it's the same cause! I think if a bike is a bit tail-heavy it exacerbates issues you see from tyre wear etc.
Haha there’s a saying here, that you’ve got to be on the look out 360° anyone can come from anywhere. 🤪 It looks terrifying to outsiders but the locals here drive like they are F1 champions! 🤣
Personally if I had a wobble like that allways check the cost free solutions first. Air, tyre weights (blance) and spoke flex. Once checked them and not the issue tyre quality and alignment. The fork oil levels I wouldn't of had tested and as there a few simple cost free checks you can do to see of you lost any oil in forks with testing the dive and rebound. And headstock bearing if you put bike on centre stand you grab the front wheel you can feel for flex at both dead stops..
Yep did all of those, but unfortunately you are not allowed to make a video inside the service station, I used what ever video evidence I could to share my experience with you guys. :)
Hello. I really like the tires you put on the back. But I have the same issue and I have less than a thousand miles. 750 to be exact. I have checked head bearing torque which is the only thing I bought of. Actually considering putting a steering stabilizer on
I just got my continental a month ago and it's had wobbling at high speeds. But I noticed it's not constant, it's imperfections in the road. I can literally feel everything. My first thought that made sense was suspension. Anything else would happen constantly. Just don't want to buy new suspension lol
As the people at RE service centre told me, "If the suspensions aren't leaking any oil, then they are good". You don't have to change the suspensions. Unless you want to milk the performance out of your 650 like most 650 owners out there. Including myself. :P th-cam.com/video/MdbrVvD8xak/w-d-xo.html
Balancing fixed the imbalance caused by outex, and outex repair again messed up the balancing. That the main reason for your wobble. Just avoid outex, if you need tubeless, go for alloys.
Actually, the tyres were the main culprit in my case. I thought the imbalance was caused by spokes. And trueing them would resolve the issue which lead to a domino effect of events I covered in the video. The tyres were the main reason. Thank you for watching.
Same experience at my end Changed tyre (from Pirelli to Ceat) And wobble was gone Although grip of Ceat is questionable at times But ceat does the job if you ride it sanely
Mainly for the normal users with tube , it's just the wheel alignment just do it at a good person who's knows to do it because re people'don't know it do the wheel alignment every 12 k kms and you are good to go
Since I have outex kit installed not anyone can do the wheel alignment on my motorcycle. Due the spokes, and the outex tape installed inside, air will leak from the spokes, I have addressed this issue in the video too.
Thanks for that video Can I know what problems or issues you faced by putting on 150 section instead of the stock 130 And if it's safe and advisable to do so. Does it sit comfortably between the sprocket and swing arm ? Is there any scrapping or brushing against the swingarm ? Notice any difference in the fuel economy as well as the top speed ?
Problems? No problems, slight wider rear tyre meaning more contact patch on the road for better traction. It is very much safe to do so. It sits comfortably between the sprocket and the swing arm. Fuel consumption remains unchanged at 24-25 kmpl in city under ideal conditions. I’m not that enthusiastic in reaching top speed. I whole heartedly believe in cruising at under 120 kmph. People should be able to see what I ride as opposed to them having a discomfort in their ears and seeing only a blur. 😎👍🏽 thank you for watching the video!
Hey! Thinking to go for a thicker grade suspension oil instead of upgrading the entire setup. Would you suggest it , also would it stop the wobbling issue ?
wobbling can be due to several reasons like I pointed out in this video. Having a thicker oil can make the suspension stiff. no doubt but it will remain that ways. If you really want it, then by all means, go for it.
It is on select batch of motorcycles. And primarily due to the front tyre. It will start to happen after 7-8k kms, or in some cases even after 3k kms. But get the tyres changed under warranty and you're good.
Hey! Great in-depth video. I have a weird and different issue. My bike does not wobble(handle bar almost vibrating) at 100kmph. But as soon as I hit 130-140kmph, the front starts to wobble(in a slow motion). I do not know how this problem is originating.
But let me ask if you don’t mind, why did changing the tyre solve the issue? What was wrong with the tyre that caused the wobbling in the first case? I have a theory that all this is due to the front end being lighter as compared to the rest of the bike and the new tyre just added weight to the front. Thoughts anyone?
I have a interveptor with alloys front and 17 meteor alloy sear I have an issue with rear fishtailing on higher speeds above 120 kmph. Tried balancing, alignment Swing arm bush changes New rear tyre I havent found a solution to it, any ideas ?
La solución a ese problemas es ajustar la tuerca de dirección lo que no es fácil ya que si te pasas ajustando puedes crear otro problemas, lo mejor es hacerlo revisar con alguien de confianza y que conozca como hacerlo o animarse a hacerlo uno mismo, a groso modo con la rueda delantera en el aire tirando el manubrio desde el centro al costado la dirección deveria tener cierta resistencia, no caer libre, en esa resistencia esta el punto y el cambio en la estabilidad ajustandola bien es notable
Gracias por tu valioso comentario. Hice revisar la tuerca de dirección, resultó estar bien. Este problema es específico de solo un lote selecto de Interceotors BS6 que tenían pirelli phantom sport como neumáticos OEM. Este lote salió entre principios de 2020 y mediados de 2021. Y ese problema son los neumáticos. Algo raro y malo en este lote de llantas pirelli. Por lo tanto, Royal Enfield ahora lo ha cambiado a Ceat Tyres. Estos neumáticos ahora son de cámara. Pero como he instalado un kit outex, prefiero ir con un neumático sin cámara. Por lo tanto, fui con Timsun. No es tan caro como Pirelli Scorpions, pero tampoco es barato. Gracias otra vez. ¡Deseo que tengas un hermoso fin de semana!
The bike has a very short rake .This helps with the fast responsive cornering but inherently push's the envelope against stability.The bike comes with the tubes raised 12 mm in the triple trees.Raising the trees until the the caps are flush really does help the bikes stability.
@@SrinivasGanesh could you explain the above logic ? I didn't understand. Is it replacing the stock exhaust brings instability and hence wobble comes??
Dude i love the way you talk! Its very clear and you don't too fast like most indian youtuber do which makes me need to rewind some portion of the video or just slow it down.
I own a 2019 RE Interceptor, one of the earliest models since its launch in Nov 2018. Purchased in Jan 2019, it initially had a wobbling issue above 100 kmph. Surprisingly, a simple fix resolved it. A puncture led me to a local tyre shop, where I discovered the tube was incorrect for an 18-inch rim, likely intended for a Honda Unicorn or Shine. Changing to the correct size tube eradicated the wobble, even at speeds of 160 kmph. Check your front tube size - it should be 100/90/18.
Wow! Thank you for telling me this information. If only I knew this back in 2022. And if only I had not got the outex tubeless kit installed on it. 🙏🏽 I will pin this comment so that more people can see this solution.
Hi Arun, whats the size of stock tube?
I have reached here facing wobbling in 2024😂
Wow 🤩
A new solution for wobble issue !
You fought out against all the demons, you might be the risen angel 👼 for all the 650 twins folks out there !
Thanks for this video.
👏
Thank you so much for an amazing comment and for watching the video! You rock! 😎🫱🏽🫲🏾🙌🏽
I've test driven continental gt and interceptor too, and faced this issue in both of them, fews years back and shared this with showroom owner as well, but nobody looked at this seriously and eventually i never got a chance to make my mind in buying this bike. But thanks to you, now i can look forward to it. Thank you.
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable feedback. The Interceptor 650 now comes with Ceat Tyres, but they are not tubeless. Otherwise I’d have gone with them only.
Sad that people at RE showrooms will not look into this as their main goal is always going to be sales. Best to write to RE directly and sharing video feedback. I’ll try this once and address this issue.
I am very much interested for this bike, but this wobbling issue and tubeless things are stopping me . Can't drag 200kg punctured bike , few practical issue should hav been solved by RE
@@nirnaynayak2445 Just go for it. The bike is just awesome. I bought it 6 mo ths back and clocked close to 6500 kms. Yes I encountered the wobble after my 1st puncture, wheel alignment was the issue. Took good amount of time for RE to sort out. But this should not stop you from buying this beast. I still never regret buying this beautiful beast. I even tour on this machine. 👌👌👌
@@HemanthVihar thanks , i have booked a canyon red,
@@nirnaynayak2445 Ride happy & safe brother😆
Looks like the wobbling is due to eventual uneven wear in the tyres. Do keep us posted on your Timsun Tyres wear and tear. Long term review on these would be helpful
Aye captian! Will do!!
Following up.. could you post your review please ? .. I'm facing the same issue and wondering about the cause
What a way to explain an issue, root cause and its solution.!! Love it. Informative as well. 🙏
Thank you soo much for watching the video!! Glad you liked it! 🫱🏽🫲🏾🙌🏽
Thank you for enlightening us! I currently have the same issue now with the phantoms on my Continental GT650. Going fornnew tires next week after watching this ⚡️⚡️😆😆
Congratulations! 🤩 I’m glad you found this video useful!
Quick question mate,
did you check in high speeds around 150-160km of course with hands on the handlebar, because my continental gt 650 will start wobbling after i cross 140km
oh no mate, I did not. I don't like to go beyond 125kmph. This seems like a good enough speed to a) speed, and b) cruise. I'll ask a friend.
Well, on top of finally solving your problem, you have helped us all. Cheers, thank you, and enjoy
Much appreciated. And this comment made my day! Thank you so much for your kindness!
🙌🏽 #crisphigh5
Now that I have reached 9k kms - I have suddenly started getting the wobble. I was also very happy that, no wobble issues.
I will mostly get the RE alloys and the new set of tyres
Saving :)
New set of tyres and no wobbles. RE alloys are a good option.
Sometimes the problem is with the wheel's balance. They do this every time they change the tires, so perhaps it wasn't the tire after all.
I've heard they don't do the balancing properly at the factory.
For me. It was the tyre indeed. Since after changing the tyre it never once came back.
After watching this video I wonder why should 1 ride without holding the handlebar?
It’s a technique to check for wobbles, without putting the bike on expensive set ups. :)
@@SrinivasGanesh well, does that affect the normal riders who wish to ride holding the handlebars?
@@MaheshKarkera the idea is to check for wobbles. It doesn’t affect anyone at all. If the wobble is there, your shoulders will fatigue very quickly. That’s why the issue needs fixing.
@@SrinivasGanesh ok that means ease of riding is hampered if such an issue exists.. got it bro thank you for the Guidance will check it on my classic 350 reborn as well..
@@MaheshKarkera you’re welcome!
Did you get the wobbling issues again after your new tyres got a bit old (5k-10k run post replacement run).?
no sir. No wobble after installing these.
That was the 1st thing I did and it fixed mine. Running 17" Pirelli MT60RS front and back. 120 and 150 front and rear width. GT650.
Sweet! What rims do you have installed? I’m also looking to get 17” wheels.
@@SrinivasGanesh
I made a mistake. I am actually running 17 rear and 18 front. I swapped the rear rim to the front for the new wider profile tyre and replaced the rear with a Racing Boy 17" 4.50 rim.
Don't ask me why i did that i am new to motorcycles(clueless) and this is a common and popular mod amongst the twin riders here in Thailand so I went along with it. Lol. Good thing is, it turned out good(beginner's luck lol).
Bike feels more eager to lean and those mt60rs give me alot more confidence than the stock pirellis. Wobbling went away like magic. Thank God.
The stance of the bike changed a little. More aggressive now imho.
Total damage was less than 500 dollars all in. 1 rim, tyres front and rear and balancing, alignment. It was alot of work. But worth it. :)
Great video mate, I had the exact same problem with my StreetTwin. A new front tyre solved the issue.
1st tyre OEM made in Brazil.
2nd tyre made in Indonesia.
Both Pirelli Phantom.
I can imagine how relieved you must have felt once the problem was solved. 👍
You have no idea! Thank you for watching the video mate! 🫱🏽🫲🏾🙌🏽🤩
Owning gt for so many years even i figured Pirelli were the wobbling route cause but damn those Pirelli's have skme sweet grip on conering
That is 100% true. I’ve also been told if you buy pirelli tyres as opposed to the ones that came fitted from factory. There’s a big difference in the quality. Not sure how much of that is true but I found it to be interesting.
Brother,Please share the tyre profile and brand, cost.
Place where you did?
Everything is in the video you just saw. 🙌🏽 links are in video description.
Bro its a permenent solution?
Have you facing any wobbling now?
No wobbling now.
What is the grey colour material at the rim of both tyres ?? The little grey thing....
that would be the outex kit, which makes the stock rims tubeless.
It's just the wheel alignment issue caused by the shope who made your spoked wheels run tubeless tyres or the imbalance of mass caused when you solved the two puncher's
Ah! could be so.
In my case the wobbling issues got solved when I changed the front tyre
In my case as well! Thank you for watching the video!
Meanwhile guys on splendor, clocking 80+ with no issues,
Changed tyres after 40k+ kms,
😂😂
Hahahaha true that!
How much did they charge you for cone set greasing and checking ?
About INR 50₹ for inspection, Since there was nothing wrong with it in the first place.
Hello, I have clocked 13.5k kms on my interceptor.. The tyre look good .. but they started to wobble after crossing 80kmph(leaving both the hands). Could you suggest me anything with your experience..
I have taken the bike to SVC, they tuned the wheel, checked the foundation bolts.. said they were loose and now the issue is solved, but again.. that is still persisting..
Could you help me out
Use the tyre depth measuring tool to measure the tyre depth. Many a time the tyres 'look' good but are not. So that is the only sure shot way to find out. If the tool says the tyre is worn out then you know the solution.
@@SrinivasGanesh Thank you..☺️🙏.. I'll do it today..
So if i change only tyre then wobble will be solve sir ?
I’ve mentioned several measures to solve the wobbling issue.
If by changing tyres it gets resolved then great. If not, there are other ways like I mentioned in the video. 🫶🏽 ty for watching
Questions come to mind:
1) Did you check the balance of both wheels? The tires might have had uneven mass distribution, which manifested in a wobble as the rubber gradually wore down.
2) Did you check the lateral runout of both wheels with a dial indicator? The tire may have gotten distorted with wear, or the rims may have gone non-planar or non-perpendicular with the axis of rotation.
3) Did you check the radial runout of both wheels with a dial indicator? The over-tightening of a spoke points to this having been a problem the mechanic found.
4) Was the steering quicker when you went to tubeless tires?
Wow! thank you for these insights. I will pin this comment so others can also benefit from it. I checked the balance on both wheels, it was fine.
2 and 3, yes and yes, Measured the depth of tyre, it was worn out. The steering is now better. Thank you for commenting and for watching the video!
@@SrinivasGanesh - Your mention of an Outex tubeless conversion is the 1st report (in English) that I've seen. Do you recall what the immediate effect was on the steering? Was it easier to initiate and/or complete a turn? Did the front wheel follow road bumps better, i.e. with less time spent airborne or unloaded? Did you sense more control during high speed bumpy turns?
@@daveinwla6360 yep. The outex tubless conversion, in my opinion makes the ride much smoother and plush. It is definitely easier to take turns. Thank you for your comment and for watching the video!
My first front tyre change, the wobble went. I think the Tyre guy in the factory is not good at balancing them.
@@SvenTviking - That's interesting to know. Did you change to the same brand/model of tire, or did you go with a different type of tire?
after changing tires, it is necessary to do balancing ...
Thank you for your comment. I did get those done to be extra sure that there is no wobbling. Unfortunately That was done after I made this video.
Bro where did you get the handle bars from
Royal Enfield show room
i am buying cb 350 no issue after purchase
great! Good choice and good for you brother! It is a good motorcycle!
Im glad I dont have this issue on my 2022 GT650... thanks for the info!
My pleasure. And thank you for watching the video!!
I feel the pain bro.
Purchased alloy wheels, then thought it was too heavy for tyres to replaced with spoke wheel.
Same coneset bearing test,
Fork oil test.
In all the hassle I almost spent the amount I would got the tyres for....
And to add to all this was the hassle and pain to get it fixed.
Thank you for the videos bro.
I'll go for mrf tyres after my int completes 7-8K on my pireeli ones.
I know right!!!! Too many problems. Little annoying problems. But gotta keep making videos so that we help people with solutions.
The way you present the problem, and the way you make a step by step explanation really made me watch it til the end, because it could really be any of these issues, I’m currently having this on my classic 500, i just put a new front tire but the rear is old, maybe this could be the issue, or maybe not hhahahaah, but this video gave me knowledge of what to do. Keep the good work
Thank you so much for your kind comment and for watching the video! 🙌🏽🤩
I change tyre to create then solved
Great! Congratulations!
Had the same experience - when the front tyre gets side-banding from wear; deacceleration wobbles at around 90-70kph can occur.
Damn! I’ll check this too! Thank you for this information!
What is the handle bar u use?
Feel free to watch dedicated videos on my channel. If you come across anything you like please consider subscribing. 🙏🏽🫶🏽
It is Himalayan Handlebar.
What are the new tyre size ? And how are they tubeless with spoke wheels .
Tyres - A Closer Look - Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
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Enjoy
Hello sir,
Did you got any wobbling issues again after changed the tyres till now.
Nope. None whatsoever
@@SrinivasGanesh ohh thank u
@@kunchalasrikanth8799 thank you for watching this video! 🙏🏽
I recently experienced wobbling on my almost new (2000 kms clocked a few days back). This has never happened while riding with a pillion and I have carefully tested it at 60,80 and 100 kmph. On our recent trip (myself, same pillion and around 30kg of luggage), I noticed wobbling at 80kmph and haven't been able to understand the reason. As we are back now, I am yet to try out again and see if the wobbling still exists (with the pillion but without the luggage). A little context before I ask you this... Could the luggage be the reason for wobbling?
There could be one of the reasons that I point out in the video, could be because of the unevenness of the road as well. Luggage could be a reason as well, that is only if they were not balanced, or weighed differently on either sides. Please keep us posted if you were able to find the reason.
@@SrinivasGanesh will do
@@mohitbhardwaj7573 thank you so much for watching the video and sharing your experience!! Much appreciated 🫱🏽🫲🏾
@@mohitbhardwaj7573were you able to find out the reason? Facing same issue in gt650 with 4800 kms
Hey SG, correct me if I am wrong, you could have gotten away with just the wheel alignment?
which tyre did you change to?
I did mention it, Timsun 150 rear and 100 front 18 inch.
Felt good ... reason ..... realistically done 👍🏿 keep rolling brother 🤘 i really appreciate all the pain u took it so nicely... great job on ur patience ☺️
Thank you for watching and for commenting on the video! :)
Sir, where do you get your gloves?
Do you mean where did I get them from? These are Burning Yellow gloves from Royal Enfield.
this bike is problem
Lol
Mod the bike to 17inch alloy wheels and wider also. Rear 160 front 120. Rear is lighter by 4kg and front by 700 grams. Now it corners like its on rails sport bike handling. No more wobble wobble. Handling is agile and lighter. Accelerate and brake better too. And no more inner tube tire😂. Very easy to find 17” tires everywhere. Best mod so farr -
Waiting for RE to come up with 17” alloys for the twins. I want this mod so badly!
OMG !!, I had the same issue of tires losing air pressure very quickly. Recently I had the wheel aligned for completely different reason, and now I think the issue is gone.
Thanks for sharing! and watching the video! :)
I own an interceptor 2022 model, I actually bought it after watching your videos Sri, even this one. I didn't experience any wobbling issues on my interceptor but now after 5000kms I am having it on my bike as well, I have the stock ceat tyres installed, I have reported it to Re service center and they weren't able to do anything about it as well. I do like these ceat tyres.. their grip and everything is pretty good but after watching this video again I think ill change it after a couple of thousand kilometres or so because this wobbling issue is very irritating
Congratulations on getting the bike!! Wohoo! But don’t let this wobbling issue let you down. Just be careful and have fun while riding the bike! Thank you for watching my videos! You rock!
@@SrinivasGaneshSame here. My bike has Ceat tires as stock, and I'm facing the same wobbling issue that started at 5500 Kms. RE service centers are not even checking it. I'll try Timsun, but the front tyres are mostly out of stock. Can you suggest any other tire options and websites to buy from?
A very informative video. Root cause analysis and trial & error elimination process for wobbling issue. Finally sorted, congrats and keep riding safe.. Do look for uneven wear on the tread pattern of both tyres..
Thank you so much for watching the video!
Man i loved the way u explained the issue...
Thank you for watching the video!
Update of my Wobbling 650 : after 3 years my Bike suddenly started Wobbling. I went to the showroom let them check and nothing happened. But after 6-7 months I changed my front tyres too but it still didn't help, it was still wobbling, But last week i changed my Interceptor 650 Bolt Bearing Racer, and suddenly the wobbling never occurred anymore. It was stable as a Rock.
oh wow!!! This is good tip!
Which tyres are those
Those are Timsun Tyres. Check the profile of those in the video description. Many thanks for watching the video! 🫱🏽🫲🏾
Srinivas again....love it the way u do the root cause analysis and the information is absolutely beneficial for fellow owners. Thank you. Happy and safe riding. ✌
Thank you for watching the video! :)
1:06 lmao
hahaha, on the bright and morbid side, thank goodness the camera was rolling and that it was not a high speed accident. But hey look! Content!! 🤣
Thank you for watching the video!
@@SrinivasGanesh yeah, glad you're fine and all. I also have a gt 650 but it doesn't wobble rn and hearing from everyone makes me think it might in the future sadly
Anyway I am glad that you're fine and bine too also, enjoy your ride and it was a lovely video thanks for the tips I'll keep in mind if mine ever wobbles
Thank you for your wishes, yes that is true, but fortunately you have all the solutions in front of you, in the off chance that should you encounter any problems. And this is why I make content. Cheers brother. Ride safe!@@shscript
Bhai Teri shakal bhi aur awaz bhi. Dono zeher hain kassam se.
Hahaha 🤣
Need your opinion ...
Confuse between cali green , barcelona blue and canyon red .. need your suggestion
Barcelona blue
Pereli not good
The ones that come with the motorcycle. Yep, only good till 5-6k kms. After that genuine pirelli tyres, very good!
Will a steering damper solve this issue regardless of the other fixes?
The wobbling, in my motorcycle, was due to tyre manufacturing defect. Hence upon changing that, the wobbling was gone. Steering damper won’t be able to reduce wobbling if it is caused by bad tyres.
@@SrinivasGanesh but can it prevent the wobble becoming a full on tank slapper?
Why do high end bikes use it then?
@@shrirham489 i believe they use it so that it helps them to make speedy turns and make them lean over. I maybe wrong.
Good video, very informative and helpful. Thanks a ton! Next time can you please keep the background music low? It is a disturbance in such a good narration.
Yes, this was two years ago. Learnt a lot from this video. You are most welcome to subscribe and watch other videos. 🙏🏽
Unlikely to be the tires, unless the tires were not balanced - then you should have your tires balanced. if you were being very picky you would ask a machine shop to balance you wheel without a tire in a machine shop. then back at the garage balance the tire on the wheel. The wobble was most likely caused by incorrect tension on the wire spokes. the rims could also be distorted also a very common issue. Another contributory factor could have a single weight fork oil. dirt inside one fork leg also can cause this. But the usual cause is a bent or out of true fork leg. If you have a problem and your mechanic didn't fix then your going to the wrong mechanic and you risk doing serious damage to your bike
Thank you for your input brother. The tyres were balanced, once from the certified RE service center and one from a reputed workshop outside of RE. The tension was resolved and the wobbling was still there. As in, on the machine it was spinning without any fuss and wobble. But starts to wobble when the bike was on the road again. And Like I mentioned in the video, I got the fork oils checked as well. They were intact. No sign of leakage, dirt, etc. i went a step further and installed front adjustable suspensions from YSS, using a different grade oil. Then checked the forks for signs of bending, there weren’t any. So final solution, as stated in the video, was to change the tyre. I did, and now no wobble at speeds above 80 till 120. I’m happy.
I had the same problem with my Continental GT650 , brand new at 120 km/h very very wobble, from my experience it was a problem in the wheel balance, I take it to the dealership and ask to check wheel balance, they said that it as ok but I think they did nothing because the problem continues, my bike is stock with tires and rubber tube. After 4000 km the problem is vanished……. Maybe the tire, rim and rubber tube all have matched in the end. But the wobbly is bad wheel balance or tire deformation
probably the tyres have been evened out after riding 4k kms, but the problem can come again in future when it will wear again.
At 130/140 the bike throws me because of the wind I guess...it's not a shimmy.
Might be time to invest in a wind shield if those are the speeds you often ride at.
watch out for potholes when riding....and I never buy a bike with spoked wheels..
Sure! Thanks for watching the video brother!
Nice vlog. Major concern for the Twin owners. Great analysis. Is this wobbling issue there in newer Alloy n Tubeless tyre models.
I am told it is not there anymore. But should it pop up, you now know sure shot way to systematically tackle it. :)
Hey, Can I know what tyrer sizes you went with, and is it possible for you to share the link, it would be of great help. Thanks!!!!!!
Thank you for the comment and watching the video. Link is there in description and size is 100 in front and 150 in rear. Both 18” wheels
How come dukes or some other racer don't have any wobbles even if the tyres are bald and their carcass showing?
maybe they do and no one made a video on that. Or maybe they know it is way too risky to test that once your tyres are bald.
Funny this came up in my feed, I picked up a Honda CBF1000 in the UK recently and they all wobble like this when you take your hands off the bars. Wonder if it's the same cause! I think if a bike is a bit tail-heavy it exacerbates issues you see from tyre wear etc.
ah! This was mainly due to the poor quality of tyres.
Driving in India looks terrifying. Everyone is just doing as they please...
Haha there’s a saying here, that you’ve got to be on the look out 360° anyone can come from anywhere. 🤪
It looks terrifying to outsiders but the locals here drive like they are F1 champions! 🤣
After installing ceat did u face issue again ?
Never installed ceat tyres. I have put timsun tyres.
@@SrinivasGanesh after u made this video did u face again wobble issue ?
@@r.vishwanath4492 nope. I did not.
Personally if I had a wobble like that allways check the cost free solutions first. Air, tyre weights (blance) and spoke flex. Once checked them and not the issue tyre quality and alignment. The fork oil levels I wouldn't of had tested and as there a few simple cost free checks you can do to see of you lost any oil in forks with testing the dive and rebound.
And headstock bearing if you put bike on centre stand you grab the front wheel you can feel for flex at both dead stops..
Yep did all of those, but unfortunately you are not allowed to make a video inside the service station, I used what ever video evidence I could to share my experience with you guys. :)
Hello. I really like the tires you put on the back. But I have the same issue and I have less than a thousand miles. 750 to be exact. I have checked head bearing torque which is the only thing I bought of. Actually considering putting a steering stabilizer on
This was a tyre issue in my case. Once they were changed, the issue was resolved. :) But thank you so much for watching the video! Cheers!
I'm also facing the air leak issue, at least now i know why. Good content bro. Keep it up!
Thank you so much for watching the video!!
Woooh, I’ve had a few bike will start to wobble if you let go the bars, there’s a very easy way to avoid this problem… 🙄
sarcasm detected and appreciated! However, thank you for watching the video!
I just got my continental a month ago and it's had wobbling at high speeds. But I noticed it's not constant, it's imperfections in the road. I can literally feel everything. My first thought that made sense was suspension. Anything else would happen constantly. Just don't want to buy new suspension lol
As the people at RE service centre told me, "If the suspensions aren't leaking any oil, then they are good". You don't have to change the suspensions. Unless you want to milk the performance out of your 650 like most 650 owners out there. Including myself. :P
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Balancing fixed the imbalance caused by outex, and outex repair again messed up the balancing. That the main reason for your wobble.
Just avoid outex, if you need tubeless, go for alloys.
Actually, the tyres were the main culprit in my case. I thought the imbalance was caused by spokes. And trueing them would resolve the issue which lead to a domino effect of events I covered in the video. The tyres were the main reason. Thank you for watching.
Same experience at my end
Changed tyre (from Pirelli to Ceat)
And wobble was gone
Although grip of Ceat is questionable at times
But ceat does the job if you ride it sanely
Thank you for watching the video! It is true that if you ride ‘sensibly’ there would be no issues at all. But we love to live on the edge don’t we? 😉
Which handlebar are you using?
Himalayan! :) video coming soon
This is one of the best video that puts the light on wobbling issues of the twins very humbly and to the point. Loued it!!
Thank you so much for watching it!!
Ive got a 2020 Gt before I even rode it off the lot I changed the phantoms and put a 150 on the back same brand front , never had the wobble issue .
After these tyres I’ll put pirelli 150 at rear and 110 at front.
Mainly for the normal users with tube , it's just the wheel alignment just do it at a good person who's knows to do it because re people'don't know it do the wheel alignment every 12 k kms and you are good to go
Since I have outex kit installed not anyone can do the wheel alignment on my motorcycle. Due the spokes, and the outex tape installed inside, air will leak from the spokes, I have addressed this issue in the video too.
My interceptor does it between 110kph-130kph. Did it much worse with non-original tires, went back to Pirelli Demons and it returned to slight wobble.
Ah! Get it checked. I’ve made this video for a possible solution. ✌🏽
Thanks for that video
Can I know what problems or issues you faced by putting on 150 section instead of the stock 130 And if it's safe and advisable to do so. Does it sit comfortably between the sprocket and swing arm ? Is there any scrapping or brushing against the swingarm ? Notice any difference in the fuel economy as well as the top speed ?
Problems? No problems, slight wider rear tyre meaning more contact patch on the road for better traction. It is very much safe to do so. It sits comfortably between the sprocket and the swing arm. Fuel consumption remains unchanged at 24-25 kmpl in city under ideal conditions. I’m not that enthusiastic in reaching top speed. I whole heartedly believe in cruising at under 120 kmph. People should be able to see what I ride as opposed to them having a discomfort in their ears and seeing only a blur. 😎👍🏽 thank you for watching the video!
Your sacrifices aren't going in vane bro. Appreciate it!
Your support means a lootttt!! 🥹🫱🏽🫲🏾 thank you for watching the videos!
Sir which front fork oil would u recommend for interceptor 650??
Liqui Molly is pretty good.
Hey! Thinking to go for a thicker grade suspension oil instead of upgrading the entire setup. Would you suggest it , also would it stop the wobbling issue ?
wobbling can be due to several reasons like I pointed out in this video. Having a thicker oil can make the suspension stiff. no doubt but it will remain that ways. If you really want it, then by all means, go for it.
How common is the wobbling issue in the interceptor. I am planning to buy a used one, should I reconsider?
It is on select batch of motorcycles. And primarily due to the front tyre. It will start to happen after 7-8k kms, or in some cases even after 3k kms. But get the tyres changed under warranty and you're good.
👌 patience meets perseverance !
Absolutely!! 🤩🙌🏽
And final solution once and for all is... to add steering damper ;)
Will try that too! Thank you for your input and for watching the video! :)
It goes away if you get the front wheel properly balanced.
I got it balanced and it was still there. Changing the tyres did it for me.
How was the mileage after changing the tyres?
same. Tyres are not that heavy.
Going through this nightmare now .. Front tire next..Fingers crossed..
All the best. It will be fine. 🙌🏽
Hey! Great in-depth video.
I have a weird and different issue. My bike does not wobble(handle bar almost vibrating) at 100kmph. But as soon as I hit 130-140kmph, the front starts to wobble(in a slow motion). I do not know how this problem is originating.
Realistic version. Check tyres, wheel alignment, cone set bearings, tyre pressure.
Funny version. Your bike is getting scared, why go so fast? 🤪
Hey man, facing the same problem on my GT, have you had any luck fixing it?
But let me ask if you don’t mind, why did changing the tyre solve the issue? What was wrong with the tyre that caused the wobbling in the first case? I have a theory that all this is due to the front end being lighter as compared to the rest of the bike and the new tyre just added weight to the front. Thoughts anyone?
Well, the new tyre is of the exact specification as the OEM one, so weight was not an issue. It was just a defected piece.
I have a interveptor with alloys front and 17 meteor alloy sear
I have an issue with rear fishtailing on higher speeds above 120 kmph.
Tried balancing, alignment
Swing arm bush changes
New rear tyre
I havent found a solution to it, any ideas ?
Interceptor’s specs are 18” at the front and rear wheel.
Try using an 18” rear wheel and see if the problem persists.
@SrinivasGanesh tried that already, problem doesn't go away. Can be issue with the front forks or oil levels?
Which company handle bar you used this is not stock handle bar???
This is stock, but of Himalayan
I did everything except changing tyre 🥺🥲😅😅
now you know :) thank you for watching the video!
do you really tighten spokes to adjust wheel alignment ?
That is also one of the procedures to do it.
La solución a ese problemas es ajustar la tuerca de dirección lo que no es fácil ya que si te pasas ajustando puedes crear otro problemas, lo mejor es hacerlo revisar con alguien de confianza y que conozca como hacerlo o animarse a hacerlo uno mismo, a groso modo con la rueda delantera en el aire tirando el manubrio desde el centro al costado la dirección deveria tener cierta resistencia, no caer libre, en esa resistencia esta el punto y el cambio en la estabilidad ajustandola bien es notable
Gracias por tu valioso comentario. Hice revisar la tuerca de dirección, resultó estar bien. Este problema es específico de solo un lote selecto de Interceotors BS6 que tenían pirelli phantom sport como neumáticos OEM. Este lote salió entre principios de 2020 y mediados de 2021. Y ese problema son los neumáticos. Algo raro y malo en este lote de llantas pirelli. Por lo tanto, Royal Enfield ahora lo ha cambiado a Ceat Tyres. Estos neumáticos ahora son de cámara. Pero como he instalado un kit outex, prefiero ir con un neumático sin cámara. Por lo tanto, fui con Timsun. No es tan caro como Pirelli Scorpions, pero tampoco es barato. Gracias otra vez. ¡Deseo que tengas un hermoso fin de semana!
Did u go with 150 rear tyre? Even I get wobbling at 80+, clocked 6000kms.. Pirelli stock tyres
Yes sir! I did!
And the 150 fits well on the stock rim without any issues? Bcoz I'm ordering a pair, same specs, wanna make sure that I get my order right.
The bike has a very short rake .This helps with the fast responsive cornering but inherently push's the envelope against stability.The bike comes with the tubes raised 12 mm in the triple trees.Raising the trees until the the caps are flush really does help the bikes stability.
This is something new I learnt!
@@SrinivasGanesh could you explain the above logic ? I didn't understand. Is it replacing the stock exhaust brings instability and hence wobble comes??
In addition, if they’re not exactly equal to within .5mm, issues like this and turning may arise.
Dude i love the way you talk! Its very clear and you don't too fast like most indian youtuber do which makes me need to rewind some portion of the video or just slow it down.
Thank you so much for the kind words!! 😍🫱🏽🫲🏾🫶🏽
Does the rear rim need to be swapped for the 150 section tyre?
Nope. It does not. Unless you opt to go for a different rim size.
Buddy u gave the solution for old tyres what about people facing same issue with the ceat tyres
Hmmm… chances are your bike is still under warranty. Claim a replacement!