When I was in high school in the early 80's, worked at the local Piggly Wiggly. An older lady drove a GTO just like that. I asked her about it, she said that she co-signed with her son when it was brand new and he drove it a year or two and quit making payments. She payed it off and the rest is history.
Who gives a rat shhhh about your piggy wiggly story what made you feel entitled to share your story do you feel that you're an important person....😂😂😂😂 just kidding brother I had you for a second there
when i was a senior in high School I bought a 69 Judge for $300.00 (1978) from a guy who wrecked it and then put the drivetrain and all the bolt on body parts on a green body and primered it black and wrecked it again. I actually saw him running from the cops with the lights out one night before it was wrecked the first time. he was desperate to sell it as it got him in lots of trouble. I street raced it every weekend, probably burned rubber every time I drove it. never took it to the track but beat my buddy's 1970 Z/28 pretty good who ran 13.99 at Fremont. 15 X 8 and 15 X 10 slotted mags. probably a mid 13 second car. sold it in 1981 for $900.00 ... it was pretty tired by then. saw it at a swap meet not running for $12,000 around 1995. definitely the most fun car I have ever had. those 400's had a lot of torque.
Steve I always love the way you articulate the words when talking muscle cars, I could listen to you all day. You are a scholar and a true professional at what you do.
not to correct you Steve but it's Chevy Hugger Orange not Orbit Orange the paint code is 72 Pontiac called it Caracal Red .In 1970 you could get Orbit Orange in was a Yellow color like Warren Oates 2 Lane Black Top GTO witch had Judge Strips but was not Judge [just a note}.my buddy has this same car but his has hide-a-way head lights and has the big dog Ram Air 4 engine .I my self own a 70 Pepper Green code 48, GTO Judge. By 70 they where painting them all the colors in the Pontiac line up. Love your videos hope your heath is better.
The 1969 was almost identical to the 1968, but every difference was an improvement. The front parking lamps for example- the 68 has no style, but in 69 they were dressed up.
Had the frist one From Blestra Pontiac Redwood City California. Also First 64 GOAT 66 Dad had 69 Trans AM. 67 BIRD. 400 Turbo. On the column. All were Bad to the Bone. Give God all the credit.😅
Keep it fair, half incorrect is extreme. He got most of it right, but a few things like when explaining the Ram Air flow under the hood, he was off getting it mixed up with the preheater holes. Hurst comments were fine, but this car has the wrong shift handle in it, at least. The M21 close ratio was reserved for higher gear ratios over 3:55-1. @@joequillun7790
My first car (bought in 1979) was a 1969 GTO convertible, but not a Judge😢 It took every dollar I made for YEARS for repairs as it had been abused be previous owners. Sold it when I went ro college and had to buy a 74 AMC Hornet for reliable transportation. A 69 Judge was my dream car ever since that first car.
I have a 1969 GTO Judge that I have restored and my son has a 1966 GTO convertible that he has been restored these are great cars back in my day i take it out to run it to the car show some time .
Man, another one that just checks all the boxes! The paint, and I mean this as the most sincere compliment I can give, looks factory not over restored. Thank you for sharing. ~ Chuck
Yup, with the VIN (from HOC's website) you win: 2 for Pontiac, 42 for GTO, 37 for two door hardtop, 9 for 1969 model year, A for Atlanta, GA assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The Atlanta, GA assembly plant (aka Lakewood Heights) closed in 1990 and the last car produced there was given away to an employee and that video can be found online. We got the tag, we can brag: ST69 for 1969 model year, 24237 for Pontiac (2) GTO (42) two door hardtop (37), ATL for Atlanta, GA assembly, 258 for Black interior trim, 72 72 for Carousel Red lower and upper exterior paint, and 03A for the first week of March 1969 production. This color is the same as the code 79 "Red Orange" or "Carousel Red" that my 1980 Trans Am is painted. That same color was also offered in 1976 on the Firebird line.
It's beautiful. The pwr. steering must have been added during the restoration since it's not listed on the build sheet. I had a mostly restored 1969 GTO Judge, same color in and out with a turbo 400 in the late 90s. When I bought it, it was freshly restored, but the Ram Air 3 was gone, but I got ahold of a rebuilt 1970 code YC 455 from a Trans Am from my local machine shop because the person who took it there refused to pay for some reason and they wanted it gone. I just went there looking for a good 400 so I could drive it. I couldn't believe my good fortune. All the machine work was done, I just assembled it with a radical Isky cam. Considering it was a somewhat heavy 3800 lb all steel car with me in it, I could almost pull the front tires on launch. A few years later, I was getting divorced, and I panicked and sold it so her lawyer couldn't try and give it to her. I never really never got over my forced decision to sell her.
Steve......you're off he mark here. Sammie Davis, Jr. portrayed 'Da Judge' on Rowan & Martin's "Laugh-In"....& Artie Shaw was a renowned jazz artist, totally irrespective of the weekly Laugh-In TV show......which, BTW, featured a comedian by the name of Artie Johnson. Starting as early as 1962, Pontiac began installing Hurst/Campbell shifters & linkage in their manual floor-shift cars. Carousel Red was a '69-only color, as Orbit Orange was a '70-only Pontiac color.
First 2000 Judges were Carousel Red, which was equivalent to Hugger Orange for Chevrolet. Orbit Orange was a lighter and brighter shade of Orange found on the 1970 GTO's. The first few hundred Judges had no glove box Judge emblem.
Okay, interesting. I had one of these in 1980 and it was a Judge with a ram air hood but it didn't have the glove box emblem. I always wondered why. Now l know.
I learned so much from Steve I can't even believe his wealth of knowledge and he's funny. I would vote Steve for president honestly. This is one of my favorite cars of all time and it is beautiful❤
I ADORE your accent as much as this car! Folks see ya comin' down na road in a cah like that'n they'd say, "Now theah's a fella who's all set. He's nawt just fottin' around. He's probably headed down ta Bessy's t'pick up some lawbstahs." I'm a New Yorker, but my father's side of the family are from the outskirts of Boston. We pick on each other's accents all the time at family reunions. Everyone DIES laughing every time!
That is a beauty! After you park it for the night, you can turn on the lava lamp, and queue up the 20 minute album version of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly.
Nice car, I've owned two. This one needs the right HURST shifter bar in it, and I'd take it back to the body man and get that huge hood to endura nose gap corrected.
Cool car. Not a bad presentation, altho a few bobbles here and there. And Steve, you mentioned the tranny, (or at least the shifter...trannys a Muncie). But you also didn't mention the rear gear. (Most sellers do). So if it's a close ratio Muncie, are we to assume the rear gear is a 3.90? Can't find it in the listing. Guess the car is gone.
while "The Judge" may have been the answer to "The Roadrunner" ... the NAME actually came from a T.V. show "Rowin & Martin laugh-in" .... during one of the skits - a famous line was "HERE COMES THE JUDGE" .... (that's a fact jack)
@@garyhull5617 you are correct Gary. It was Fip who said, "here come the Judge, not Artie Shaw, (?) like Steve incorrectly stated. I thought Sammy Davis did it too. (Maybe once (?)
sad story. Driving down US83 near Palos, Il, I saw a similar body and color Judge pass me going opposite direction. Looked showroom clean and new. Going home we met again with Judge going in opposite direction. Let me just say it needs some extensive body work, like a new front end. Told you it was sad.
Saw this thing in the movie “sex drive” And then recently saw a REAL ONE at a car show. Exact same model as the one in the movie, even with the tachometer
Those 14x7 Rally ll 8:558:55 wheels are incorrect. All 69 and 70 Judges came with 14x6 wheels. The deeper dish is a dead giveaway to 14x7 Firebird or GP wheels.
Not a street fighter without the optional RA/IV engine.Too heavy.Those were the best looking cars of that time,however.RA/IV was actually well over 400hp.
In high school 1972 I bought a 69 Carousel Red Judge RA lll 4 speed with 49,000 miles for $1250 which was a lot of money back then. The car condition was like new and ran perfect. The only thing not original were the F-70 / 14" tires which would go up in smoke with little effort. I would drop the clutch in 2nd at 3500 rpms and leave posi rubber for as long as I would like +- (I replaced the clutch twice) - The car always ran good but at 90,000 miles it was using a quart of oil in maybe 100 miles and one night I took the car up to near red line over 130 mph and spun a bearing. The car still ran good knocking but I just replaced the motor with a 69 Bonneville 400 and threw the original RA lll away, back then cars were disposal-able lol a year later the car was beat and nearly a total from too many accidents and abuse and was sold for a few $ hundred bucks. Mine had the Judge sticker on the glove box, and my Hurst Shifter T Handle originally did not have the 4 speed pattern stamped in the Handle Top like the one shown that is a newer replacement. I added rear deep dish Cragers with G-60's on the rear and air shocks for just a bit more height. Still today my friends constantly remind me of my Judge ! THIS is JUST Crazy for this original kinda shitty Judge today-- $60,500 bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-pontiac-gto-77/ GM mis-represented the HP on ALL A Body Cars except the 1070 Chevelle LS-6. They just took the weigh of the car and rated the GM A Bodies as 10 HP for every 100 pounds of weight +- HERE IS some numbers about True HP: Gross HP at the CRANK - Roger Huntington wrote an article about what these engines actually put out; here is the list: (All are gross hp & torque figures.) www.motortrend.com/features/horsepower-hijinks-story-behind-factory-underrating-muscle-car-power-1960s-1970s/ Engine----------Advertised--Rated HP & Torque---------True HP (?) Buick 455 Stage 1-------360@5000----510@2800------420@5400 Camaro Z/28 302--------290@5800----290@4200------310@6200 Chevelle 396 L-78-------375@5600----415@3600------400@5600 Corvette 427 L-88-------430@5200----450@4400------480@6400 Mopar 340-4 bbl---------275@5000----340@3200------320@5600 Mopar 440-Magnum------375@4600----480@3200------410@5400 Mopar 440 Six-Pack------390@4700----490@3200------430@5600 Mopar 426 Street Hemi---425@5000----490@4000------470@6000 Mustang Boss 302--------290@5800----290@4300------310@6200 Ford 351-4 bbl Cleveland--300@5400----380@3400------340@5600 Mustang Boss 351--------330@5400----370@4000------360@6000 Mustang 428 Cobra-Jet---335@5200----440@3400------410@5600 Mustang Boss 429--------375@5200----450@3400------420@5600 Oldsmobile 455 W-30-----370@5300----500@3600------440@5600 Oldsmobile 350 W-31-----325@5400----360@3600------350@5800 Pontiac Ram Air lll 400------366@5100----445@3600------410@560
Too bad you were/are such a knob and didnt know to respect a nice car and enjoy it, but make it last. People like you didn't deserve to own one of those great cars.
This is one of the most Beautiful vehicles ever built. Great walk around Steve.And Super Shane 🎥.
When I was in high school in the early 80's, worked at the local Piggly Wiggly. An older lady drove a GTO just like that. I asked her about it, she said that she co-signed with her son when it was brand new and he drove it a year or two and quit making payments. She payed it off and the rest is history.
Who gives a rat shhhh about your piggy wiggly story what made you feel entitled to share your story do you feel that you're an important person....😂😂😂😂 just kidding brother I had you for a second there
when i was a senior in high School I bought a 69 Judge for $300.00 (1978) from a guy who wrecked it and then put the drivetrain and all the bolt on body parts on a green body and primered it black and wrecked it again. I actually saw him running from the cops with the lights out one night before it was wrecked the first time. he was desperate to sell it as it got him in lots of trouble. I street raced it every weekend, probably burned rubber every time I drove it. never took it to the track but beat my buddy's 1970 Z/28 pretty good who ran 13.99 at Fremont. 15 X 8 and 15 X 10 slotted mags. probably a mid 13 second car. sold it in 1981 for $900.00 ... it was pretty tired by then. saw it at a swap meet not running for $12,000 around 1995. definitely the most fun car I have ever had. those 400's had a lot of torque.
The 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge is an iconic muscle car that epitomizes the golden era of American muscle.
Steve I always love the way you articulate the words when talking muscle cars, I could listen to you all day. You are a scholar and a true professional at what you do.
Actually Sammy Davis Jr. said the "here come the judge" and Arte Johnson played the judge.
Pigment Markham, 1st sang "Here Comes the Judge" in 1968. Sammy just happened to say it on Laugh In. Pigmeat Markham 1968, Chess records.
Artie never played the Judge.
Flip Wilson was the Judge. Complete with the black robe.
@@JerryDey he was The Judge on The Flip Wilson Show not Laugh-in
Yup. Davis always played da judge
not to correct you Steve but it's Chevy Hugger Orange not Orbit Orange the paint code is 72 Pontiac called it Caracal Red .In 1970 you could get Orbit Orange in was a Yellow color like Warren Oates 2 Lane Black Top GTO witch had Judge Strips but was not Judge [just a note}.my buddy has this same car but his has hide-a-way head lights and has the big dog Ram Air 4 engine .I my self own a 70 Pepper Green code 48, GTO Judge. By 70 they where painting them all the colors in the Pontiac line up. Love your videos hope your heath is better.
Beautiful restoration. Brings back a lot of memories.
What a beautiful GTO JUDGE 69 is one of my favorite Years
It is the hands down best
The 1969 was almost identical to the 1968, but every difference was an improvement. The front parking lamps for example- the 68 has no style, but in 69 they were dressed up.
Forgot to mention the tach on the hood which was a defining characteristic of the GTO.
Of the Judge and Ram air cars.
Had the frist one From Blestra Pontiac Redwood City California. Also First 64 GOAT 66 Dad had 69 Trans AM. 67 BIRD. 400 Turbo. On the column. All were Bad to the Bone. Give God all the credit.😅
Steve is probably one of the coolest dudes around, I could listen to him talk cars for hours what a knowlagable guy!
Jesus Christ, Steve is a walking encyclopedia. God Bless him.
My favorite kind of nerd, knowledge is fascinating
😂
Sorry to inform you, but his facts are 1/2 incorrect here. Sad to say , from a fellow New Englander.
Keep it fair, half incorrect is extreme. He got most of it right, but a few things like when explaining the Ram Air flow under the hood, he was off getting it mixed up with the preheater holes. Hurst comments were fine, but this car has the wrong shift handle in it, at least. The M21 close ratio was reserved for higher gear ratios over 3:55-1. @@joequillun7790
My first car (bought in 1979) was a 1969 GTO convertible, but not a Judge😢
It took every dollar I made for YEARS for repairs as it had been abused be previous owners. Sold it when I went ro college and had to buy a 74 AMC Hornet for reliable transportation.
A 69 Judge was my dream car ever since that first car.
I have a 1969 GTO Judge that I have restored and my son has a 1966 GTO convertible that he has been restored these are great cars back in my day i take it out to run it to the car show some time .
Man, another one that just checks all the boxes! The paint, and I mean this as the most sincere compliment I can give, looks factory not over restored. Thank you for sharing. ~ Chuck
Endura rubberized front end required a specific additive to the paint in order for the paint to retain its malliablility
Yup, with the VIN (from HOC's website) you win: 2 for Pontiac, 42 for GTO, 37 for two door hardtop, 9 for 1969 model year, A for Atlanta, GA assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The Atlanta, GA assembly plant (aka Lakewood Heights) closed in 1990 and the last car produced there was given away to an employee and that video can be found online.
We got the tag, we can brag: ST69 for 1969 model year, 24237 for Pontiac (2) GTO (42) two door hardtop (37), ATL for Atlanta, GA assembly, 258 for Black interior trim, 72 72 for Carousel Red lower and upper exterior paint, and 03A for the first week of March 1969 production. This color is the same as the code 79 "Red Orange" or "Carousel Red" that my 1980 Trans Am is painted. That same color was also offered in 1976 on the Firebird line.
😍Great looking GTO!👍
It's beautiful. The pwr. steering must have been added during the restoration since it's not listed on the build sheet. I had a mostly restored 1969 GTO Judge, same color in and out with a turbo 400 in the late 90s. When I bought it, it was freshly restored, but the Ram Air 3 was gone, but I got ahold of a rebuilt 1970 code YC 455 from a Trans Am from my local machine shop because the person who took it there refused to pay for some reason and they wanted it gone. I just went there looking for a good 400 so I could drive it. I couldn't believe my good fortune. All the machine work was done, I just assembled it with a radical Isky cam. Considering it was a somewhat heavy 3800 lb all steel car with me in it, I could almost pull the front tires on launch. A few years later, I was getting divorced, and I panicked and sold it so her lawyer couldn't try and give it to her. I never really never got over my forced decision to sell her.
That's sad man. Praying to God you get another 69 GTO someday.
I’m a Mopar guy but that’s a fantastic looking car.
I am too but all old school muscle cars are bangers!
Love the Garage Door,Nice!
Steve......you're off he mark here. Sammie Davis, Jr. portrayed 'Da Judge' on Rowan & Martin's "Laugh-In"....& Artie Shaw was a renowned jazz artist, totally irrespective of the weekly Laugh-In TV show......which, BTW, featured a comedian by the name of Artie Johnson. Starting as early as 1962, Pontiac began installing Hurst/Campbell shifters & linkage in their manual floor-shift cars. Carousel Red was a '69-only color, as Orbit Orange was a '70-only Pontiac color.
I thought so too M2, but I think so did Flip Wilson. Definitely not Artie Shaw(?) LOL. Artie Johnson ?
I think several people said "Here comes the Judge" on the show. Yes, Aerie Johnson was on the show, not Artie Shaw.
Man I Dig the Pontiacs so Very Much!❤️🤘😳🙌
Here comes the judge was also in the commercial!
First 2000 Judges were Carousel Red, which was equivalent to Hugger Orange for Chevrolet. Orbit Orange was a lighter and brighter shade of Orange found on the 1970 GTO's. The first few hundred Judges had no glove box Judge emblem.
Okay, interesting. I had one of these in 1980 and it was a Judge with a ram air hood but it didn't have the glove box emblem. I always wondered why. Now l know.
I got a 1971 GTO when i got back from Vietnam in 1970.
Steve went T O'Leary.
I learned so much from Steve I can't even believe his wealth of knowledge and he's funny. I would vote Steve for president honestly. This is one of my favorite cars of all time and it is beautiful❤
I ADORE your accent as much as this car! Folks see ya comin' down na road in a cah like that'n they'd say, "Now theah's a fella who's all set. He's nawt just fottin' around. He's probably headed down ta Bessy's t'pick up some lawbstahs." I'm a New Yorker, but my father's side of the family are from the outskirts of Boston. We pick on each other's accents all the time at family reunions. Everyone DIES laughing every time!
That is a beauty! After you park it for the night, you can turn on the lava lamp, and queue up the 20 minute album version of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly.
This was one of my dad’s first cars, to this day he still remembers what color judge he had even though he is in his mid stages of alzheimer’s.
Nice car, I've owned two. This one needs the right HURST shifter bar in it, and I'd take it back to the body man and get that huge hood to endura nose gap corrected.
The whitewalls kill me. Used to either blackwalls or rwl. Beautiful car.
I have a diecast model of the judge and it is prominent in my collection. It is my dream car which i will never own
Cool car. Not a bad presentation, altho a few bobbles here and there. And Steve, you mentioned the tranny, (or at least the shifter...trannys a Muncie). But you also didn't mention the rear gear. (Most sellers do). So if it's a close ratio Muncie, are we to assume the rear gear is a 3.90? Can't find it in the listing. Guess the car is gone.
Nice to see one that survived ,and didn't end up in Bernardston auto wrecking. I would have to do a smoke show with those whitewalls though.
Carousel red up till February they had a blue stripe. Then it was switched to black. Orbit orange was a 1970 color
Very nice 62 Chevy next to it!!
while "The Judge" may have been the answer to "The Roadrunner" ... the NAME actually came from a T.V. show "Rowin & Martin laugh-in" .... during one of the skits - a famous line was "HERE COMES THE JUDGE" .... (that's a fact jack)
Ahh.. I kinda' think we knew that already.
It's Rowan not Rowin
Flip Wilson figures in somewhere, doesn't he?
@@garyhull5617 you are correct Gary. It was Fip who said, "here come the Judge, not Artie Shaw, (?) like Steve incorrectly stated. I thought Sammy Davis did it too. (Maybe once (?)
sad story. Driving down US83 near Palos, Il, I saw a similar body and color Judge pass me going opposite direction. Looked showroom clean and new. Going home we met again with Judge going in opposite direction. Let me just say it needs some extensive body work, like a new front end. Told you it was sad.
They came with red line G 70S's ,Wide Ovals and white walls. I have a judge that originaly came with white walls .
Saw this thing in the movie “sex drive”
And then recently saw a REAL ONE at a car show. Exact same model as the one in the movie, even with the tachometer
Those 14x7 Rally ll 8:55 8:55 wheels are incorrect. All 69 and 70 Judges came with 14x6 wheels. The deeper dish is a dead giveaway to 14x7 Firebird or GP wheels.
Here comes da JUDGE
3300 WOW my 4 door skylark was almost 4K in 69 and it only has a few options
Aahh the goat! 🐐 👌🥰👍👉♥️beautiful!
Strange the car came with white wall tires but no rally 2 wheels.Rally wheels were code 454 84.26 dollar's
They didn't come with whitewalls. Good Year raised white letter Polyglass was the tire of choice.
Here come the judge
Here come the judge
Wink Wink LMAO!
please get rid of the white lined tires and replace them with raised white lettered tires. Steve your looking stronger and better everyday !
nice
White walls gotta go!! Put on some year one retro rallys with some coopers or goodyears
I agree 100 % Joe. Disgusting addition.
Lindo!❤
🏆Steve 🏆hit a home run 🐶 that car so trick 🍀got R done😎✌️
My friend had one!
Love this car! But those whitewalls gotta go. Wide Ovals? Cooper Cobras? Some kinda white letter tire with a real speed rating.
Yeah.
Not a street fighter without the optional RA/IV engine.Too heavy.Those were the best looking cars of that time,however.RA/IV was actually well over 400hp.
The tires should be blackwall
In high school 1972 I bought a 69 Carousel Red Judge RA lll 4 speed with 49,000 miles for $1250 which was a lot of money back then. The car condition was like new and ran perfect. The only thing not original were the F-70 / 14" tires which would go up in smoke with little effort. I would drop the clutch in 2nd at 3500 rpms and leave posi rubber for as long as I would like +- (I replaced the clutch twice) - The car always ran good but at 90,000 miles it was using a quart of oil in maybe 100 miles and one night I took the car up to near red line over 130 mph and spun a bearing. The car still ran good knocking but I just replaced the motor with a 69 Bonneville 400 and threw the original RA lll away, back then cars were disposal-able lol a year later the car was beat and nearly a total from too many accidents and abuse and was sold for a few $ hundred bucks. Mine had the Judge sticker on the glove box, and my Hurst Shifter T Handle originally did not have the 4 speed pattern stamped in the Handle Top like the one shown that is a newer replacement. I added rear deep dish Cragers with G-60's on the rear and air shocks for just a bit more height. Still today my friends constantly remind me of my Judge !
THIS is JUST Crazy for this original kinda shitty Judge today-- $60,500
bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-pontiac-gto-77/
GM mis-represented the HP on ALL A Body Cars except the 1070 Chevelle LS-6. They just took the weigh of the car and rated the GM A Bodies as 10 HP for every 100 pounds of weight +-
HERE IS some numbers about True HP: Gross HP at the CRANK - Roger Huntington wrote an article about what these engines actually put out; here is the list: (All are gross hp & torque figures.)
www.motortrend.com/features/horsepower-hijinks-story-behind-factory-underrating-muscle-car-power-1960s-1970s/
Engine----------Advertised--Rated HP & Torque---------True HP (?)
Buick 455 Stage 1-------360@5000----510@2800------420@5400
Camaro Z/28 302--------290@5800----290@4200------310@6200
Chevelle 396 L-78-------375@5600----415@3600------400@5600
Corvette 427 L-88-------430@5200----450@4400------480@6400
Mopar 340-4 bbl---------275@5000----340@3200------320@5600
Mopar 440-Magnum------375@4600----480@3200------410@5400
Mopar 440 Six-Pack------390@4700----490@3200------430@5600
Mopar 426 Street Hemi---425@5000----490@4000------470@6000
Mustang Boss 302--------290@5800----290@4300------310@6200
Ford 351-4 bbl Cleveland--300@5400----380@3400------340@5600
Mustang Boss 351--------330@5400----370@4000------360@6000
Mustang 428 Cobra-Jet---335@5200----440@3400------410@5600
Mustang Boss 429--------375@5200----450@3400------420@5600
Oldsmobile 455 W-30-----370@5300----500@3600------440@5600
Oldsmobile 350 W-31-----325@5400----360@3600------350@5800
Pontiac Ram Air lll 400------366@5100----445@3600------410@560
Too bad you were/are such a knob and didnt know to respect a nice car and enjoy it, but make it last. People like you didn't deserve to own one of those great cars.
I haven't heard anything about Steve's illness which is worrying
I'd be happy with a beat up LeMans
I may be buying a 69 Lemans for $2500. No seats, engine or trans. Trunk and floors are very solid, quarters have bondo and would need replacing.
Cmon now, gotta lose those ugly tires with the white sidewall band.
Gtos look better without the Hide away lights .
The white walls are ugly
Beautiful specimen! Some driving would have been nice.
Arnie " the farmer" beswick Morrison illinois made the " judge" famous along with the tameless tiger!!