1965 Oldsmobile 442 Walkaround with Steve Magnante
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High Octane Classics is proud to offer this 1965 Oldsmobile 442 shown in the original color combination to a show quality level. This is without a doubt one of the nicest 1965 442's on the planet. Powered by its original 400ci engine and 4 speed manual transmission, This 442 spent most of its life in California and it shows, top side, underneath, is as clean as a whistle. Truly one you need to see in real life, all original body panels. The car runs and drives just as good as it looks, everything works as it should. If you're in the market for an amazing 65 442 this is it. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Built a clone with a 455 and all the suspension work tuned, great fun to drive! Wanted one when I was 16, finally had it when I was 66.
I don’t know what it is about this car it’s just amazing. When I tell people that it doesn’t have power steering they make me open the hood to check because it steers so effortlessly the car is just a sweetheart. I have never had one like this in my shop that just has it’s soul.
The 455 with a bigger cam had a lot of torque .
I have a 65 with power steering and power brakes, air conditioning, automatic transmission with the 330 in it.
It’s sat for nearly 20 years
It needs a full restoration, but I still think it can be saved
That's the model my oldest brother had 400, 4 barrel, dual exhaust outran every cop in our town! Cancer caught up with him 20 years later rip bro! You drove that beast like you were running shine!
65 was a good year
I Love this era of car's .born in 66
No doubt one of the very best kooking Oldsobiles of that time that still does look really great even today.
You do such a great job describing the car and hosting this “show”. And that’s what this is, a professional documentary show on a great classic American muscle car. Thank you!
Steve didn't mention that Oldsmobile offered a Chromed version of the steel wheel. Order code on that was N98.
That was a 1965 only offering of this option. Very very few 65s were ordered with those wheels. I bought a 65 442 in Stockton CA in 1988 from original owner with over 250k miles and drove it home. The car was the same green with white interior. It was ordered with the N98 wheels by the dealer. Original owner said he bought it off the show room floor in Modesto CA. I still own it and she still purrs like a kitten with just over 350k miles.
Can’t wait till Your back Mags !!!!
Soon Bro 👊🏼⛽️
Steve is a Masterclass classic car professor Love when he talks about plastic models
That's a bad ass car Steve. Lots of clues that it's an original car that wasn't raced much. Cheers 🇨🇦
I’ve never seen one of those really rare but GM parts super kool. 👍
Man, this is my kind of car. Nothing but what you need to go fast and have fun. Modern cars have nothing on these classics
Great video. My first car was a '65 442. My best friend in high school, who sadly passed away from cancer last year also had a '65 442. Mine was light metallic blue, and his was the same green as the one in the video. I had long ago traded mine in, but my friend kept his his entire life. His widow still has it. It is part of his legacy. It was part of him. Miss you, Bob.
I had one of these in my youth. It spent it's weekends at my local drag strip. During my time with it I had three engines. 400, another 400 and finally a 455. I owned that car for three years. And then I got a 1967 442, raced that one for another three years. After that I obtained my monster 1970 442 W-30. I purchased that one while on leave from the Air Force. I had that for 8 years and at that time I had a hard time finding gas that it liked. With the crap gas available at the time, a friend of mine would get some aviation fuel and I would make a blend of my own. I loved all of my 442s and sitting in front of me is the front grill 442 emblem from my 65'. Fast times then.
Love it love it... 65 442 was the coolest looking body style, and the 400 bbo was awesome
The rarer GM A-bodies with pillars certianly don't look as sporty as the hardtops, but they were certianly more rigid and felt more solid. Combined with the 442 standard boxed-in convertible frame, it really added to the handling of the 442. You can hear how solid it sounded when Steve shut the door. Beautiful car. The no hubcap look fits this 442 perfectly.
Up north, uncovered open ended lug nuts rusted solid to the studs and twisted the stud off when attempting to remove them... better to use the wonderful GM closed end stainless steel clad lug nuts...
Was hoping this was a late '65 442 with newly getting available tripower... wanted to see what the intake manifold and air cleaner(s) looked like... GTO went to more powerful raised intakes in '65...
When the 330" limit for midsize cars ended, a 400" limit was slapped on... Chevy increased the 396" to 402" but still called it a '396'... Buick's 401" became a '400'...
Earlier, to get around 330" limit, '63 Pontiac 336" was called a '326'... later their '350' was 354"...
SBC '400' is 401"...
Standard 442’s didn’t have the boxed frame. Only convertibles and a very rare option that came boxed. The 442 frame had extra gusseting, extra upper control arm mounting holes and a unique rear crossmember.
Premium Fuel in 65' was Leaded 102+ Octane at the pump.
When I was a kid me an my parents borrowed my uncles 65 Olds cutlass with same brakes,
Well we lost our brakes on big hill in Pittsburgh in 1985 lol ,so I beg to differ!
Love the sound of that door smoothly clicking closed.....
Love the 65’s… beautiful original 442 !
Such a beautiful automobile. As a kid this was part of my dream car collection. If i had the room and the money I would buy this car in a heartbeat.
My cousin has a 65 gold on gold 442 4sp hardtop all original except he had the engine regasketed and Cragers with BFG’s installed. He found it in Hemings in the 90’s . True story of buying it from the owners dad . His son didn’t make it back home from Vietnam and his dad just drove it on sundays to church . My cousin flew down to NC and had to take the original wheels and tires off to drive the car back to MI. A true time capsule .
65 and 68. My favorite 442's
who cares!
I do. Had a 68. Then put a 69 Delta 88 455 in a 76 Cutlass with junkyard manifold, quadrajet, electronic distributor, built turbo 400. Wasn't much off the line with 2.43 rearend. Sure ran on the float. So? Piss off. 🙄
@R Kirschner Like I said who cares!
I had a 68 cutlass but always thought the 69 was a tad nicer, I would buy a 69 442 today if I find a good one in my price range
@@richardmiller6422 I care
Nice, don’t hear much about them, 😢had one in 65 loved it 😊
Beautiful…
My first car when I turned 16. Mine was blue with the Jetta way 2 speed. Wish I had it now. Your were right on the nose explaining this car.
That's what I refer to as a capital YES vehicle.
Someone purchased the vehicle on my birthday 🎂 in 65 when I was three years old 🙃
very nice car...
Love this! Back when 442 actually meant something!
Great video Steve. Excellent walk around for a cool car in great condition.
One slight correction…@2:12 mark-
The cheapest, most potent 65 442 built was the stripper “Club Coupe”. Same body style as the sports coupe, but without any of the lower side moldings. It had a shorter hood spear and no rear tail chrome panel. (It had a short hood spear and simple chrome bars at the rear, plastic dash and was bench only with a rubber floor vs. carpet) Weigh savings was just over 50lbs vs. the sport coupe.
Good luck with sale. Hope it goes to a great home!
another great presentation by steve and high octane.... can we all appreciate people like this keeping our american muscle car history relevant and present to remind of us yester year some would say the better year.(s)....
My brother had a '64 F-85 sedan. That car was very quick.
See the influence of the ‘64 chevy’s look? 😮kinda cool.
Had one new in early '65. Lemon yellow 2 door hardtop, all accessories in book. GTO hunter. San Diego co. USA.
Such a sleeper. Back then radar wasn't so widely used. Got away many times no worries. A plain Jane it looked only. Those lungs out ran everything out there.
Yeh, a later model, but look up the Hurst Hairy Olds.
Crazy times back then.
I love 65 442's. I had a chance to buy a white 65 442, 4 speed with red interior in 1977. I owned a 68 442 at the time and couldn't come up with the $800 asking price in time. I did have a 65 442, white with red interior, 4 speed in 1987. It was a spoke hub cap post car. I've had many Old's muscle cars over the years and have a 4 speed Rallye 350 now.
What a stunner….thanks Steve. This was great!
In 66' he spent less than $5 for an Oil Change. When I started driving in 75' I was paying about $9, sometimes I would get a discount coupon for about $5 for my 69' Road Runner. My current car is a 17' Super Sport Camaro 6 speed manual and I am paying about $100 for 10qt oil change with filter.
Hmm, I've been changing my own oil ever since I learned to drive on my 74 charger as my 1st car.
@@terryschnereger8531 Good if you have the place to do it.
Hey, it's the dude from the liquor store in American Graffiti where Toad tried to buy a bottle of Old Harper! Dig the car and the video,well done. '64 looked good, '65 was even cooler lookin and not too big then in 66-67, they got a little boaty . 68-72 nice but not like the '65. I have an 86 Olds 442 with a 68 Olds 350 but that '65 with a groovy set of red line tires, Id take it just the same. It's probably worth triple of what my 1986 is worth.
There was one near me in the late 80's early 90's for sale in Hollywood for $1,400. I had the money, but not enough for towing as the rag joint was bad. I sadly(stupidly) had to walk away.
15 years later I'm working on a Nintendo commercial at a small studio owned (or used by) Steve Landesberg from barney miller. There in the parking area behind the stage was a chalky faded red 65 442. When I found Mr. Landesberg, I asked him about the car. He said he bought it from a guy in Hollywood about 10-15 years ago. I asked if I could look at it and he said sure.
I opened the hood and I immediately noticed a newer rag joint still in its fresh black rubber and metal. I asked if he had done anything to the car... He said I just had to replace the steering joint.
There it was, one of my biggest mistakes, right there in front of me... 15 years later. I regret it to this day.
First time that I have seen Mr Mag outside the brush and leaves of New England auto wrecking yards. 🙂
Beautiful Olds 4-4-2. I often wondered why American cars of the 60s and early 70s were engineered and built as both hardtops and sedans. In this video, it clicked that the hardtop engineering and tooling for frameless doors and glass could be shared with the convertible versions (at least, for 2 door models).
Also, in this age when almost every car, regardless of size and weight, includes power steering and brakes as standard equipment (as well as air conditioning, cruise control, power windows, etc), it seems bewildering that a 2 ton car with a big block V-8 could be ordered without any power assists back in the day,. I guess that shows how much the market has changed.
Love those wire wheel hubs.
Great stock plain Jane sleeper of a car. Love it.
Beautiful clean looking car . About 2 years ago my brother pulled the 66 Oldsmobile F-85 we had sitting in are yard at my shop and started restoring it , he ended up putting a crate motor from Jegs in it , Turned out and run's beautiful about 2 months ago we put a Big Block 455 with a little work done to it and I have to say it's a Beast I'm kinda Jealous of it now 😄 , I'm thinking I may have to put a Big Block in my 66 Nova now to keep up with him,
LoL .🤔🤔 . 👍✌️✌️
ORIGINAL EXAMPLE'S PLEASE
...THX STEVE ~ YOU ROCK !
Thanks for another great informative video. Primo Olds, incredible that is unrestored and no rust or filler.
IMO, midsize and muscle cars from that era, not respective to manufacturer, look great with painted steelies no wheelcovers or 'Gator' style, as in the Gator McCluskey movies Burt Reynolds acted in (although Gator's cars were full-sized LTDs (429 BBs/sticks) of those movies' era). All business, the business being hauling shine or ass in a fast way.
Love the original look and color - nice
cousin had one back in the day
Thank you. Mr Magnate for sharing your knowledge I always enjoy your videos..(my first car was a 1964 gto)
What a sweet car,,,and rare too.
1965 olds Starfire had 375 hp with a 425 cu inch
'Super High Compression'
Rocket Power!
Great job Steve.
what a cool car, 1965 442 an unsung hero.
love all the paperwork and original equipment.
great job explaining everything.
I love the no hubcaps look.
Friday night Street racer.
what a lot of people don't know is, you know a lot about Friday night street racing out here in California.
thank you for keeping the dream alive Steve
Stunner!! 👍
Luv these ‘65’s! 400 motors had the power and torque. I see a black 65 442 at local car shows. Its the same as this one but has the optional tri power 3x2’s. A bit smaller that the ‘66 model and probably lighter as well.
3 carbs one year only 1966. I could beat them with my 65 GTO but they pulled better in 4th.
@@waynekarjala2032 dealer installed option
Great looking car.Shame they didnt reupholster the seat.Growing up as a kid my brother had the 64 442 white with red interior.330 with the 4 speed and console.Would be a great car to have today!
It’s bark emerald. Boy it’s tough to find material
Nice car and optioned just right for street strip duty.
That original spare in the trunk reminded me I still have the original red line spare on the original wheel from dad's long gone 67 442. Also have the engine and th400 switch pitch trans as well.
I have owned a lot of Olds 442s. I bought a white with red interior 65 in 1971 for $275. I might also mention that it had a complete original W-30 intake and air cleaner off the #16 1966 W-30 car. I had already bought the #16 car as a roller and needed the intake setup to complete the 1966 build for NHRA Super Stock.
As a junior in high school 1973, my parents let me buy my uncles 1964 Olds 442 hardtop. Red with American mags, white bucket seats, console with tach and chrome 4 spd. shifter. It's best ET was 15.20 at Fremont Drags.. and it beat my friends 69 Roadrunner and other friends, 69 Boss 302. It was a classic cruiser that turned the heads of all the hot chicks, down at the Tasty Freeze... 😎
Back in the mid-eighties my best friend Todd had that exact car but it was red with a hardtop no post. I had a 65 Belvedere with a 361 big block 3 speed when we raced he walked away from me like I was standing still. I moved away from Rhode Island and found out that Todd had been killed by a drunk driver in 1991. This video made me think of him😢
Your comment made me think of 2 friends that we lost to drunk drivers. Gone too soon. Thinking of you guys Jay and Victor. ❤❤
@@danfarris135 His name was Todd Moevelli. I miss him after 32 yrs.
Raced a 361 with my '65 GTO using only the center carburetor... the 361 held in their respectably well...
@BuzzLOLOL The problem with my 65 Plymouth Belvedere was the 3 speed manual would bind up between 1st and 2nd. I fixed it by converting it to a 440 4 spd on the floor...
@@jonathangodbout6645 - That usually does the trick...
A friend had a '64 when in high school. A 330 ofcourse and it would scream.
I just bet with that rear anti-sway bar that car was a lot of fun to drive
IT HAD to be BETTER than GM intermediates of that era! They handled HORRIBLY!
I think that car came with dog dish hub caps since the spare's wheel was painted body color. Wheels were only body color for cars with hub caps, but I'm not sure if the spare was body color. Cars with full wheel covers received black wheels - all five of them.
Good catch!
The third paint code letter was for the wheel color. If it matches the lower body color it had dog dish caps
60s and 70s GM cars have a very unique sound when you close the doors!😎👍
All I ever heard was the window mechanism rattling! These were POORLY BUILT cars!
@@johnmaki3046 !the 60s and 70s GM cars I owned were tight and RATTLE FREE! Opinions are like AHOLES, everybody has one.
@@dominickserignese8837 Sadly, we had this LEMON in the family for ten+ years! It RAN, this is the ONLY "quality" there!
I was pleasantly surprised that Steve does not only shoot Junkyard crawl
Love the knowledge you pass on and cars are great! Would love to hear the engine and exhaust note though
Emerald green near impossible to find we are working on it, but it shouldn’t hold back from letting you view. Such a beautiful piece.
In 1965 442 Meant.. " 400, 4 Barrel, Dual Exhaust ... "
In this case, should be 4442...
Very cool car
The '65 was the first of my three 442s. Same sedan body and four speed. Because I lived in the NE, it is my opinion the '65 had the most rust-resistant body. The '66 wasn't bad at all, but the '69 had paint adhesion problems causing rust in unusual places.
Dream machine
If you pay attention to the protecto plate Steve is showing. The engine number (V 023414) is imprinted on it to the left of the VIN number. This is the ONLY way to verify that the engine is the original BUT that number is stamped into the right side (passenger) head in front so the block may or may not be the original because that number is NOT found on the block. I will say the "A" heads would at least be correct for a 65.
That's good info. In Moparworld, we have it on the block.
When I was 18 I had a 1964 Buick Wildcat.
Clean.
Weird engine . Big tall intake. Air cleaner said 430, I think , but parts guy said it was really a 445??
It had for sure posi trac. No limited slip.
Car before that was 1967 Camero Rally Sport convertible . 327 special engine.
Body atrocious but the automatic convertible top worked!!
Back then Buick put the torque rating on their engines, 445 was the 401 cubic inch nail head.
Bought a 1965 442 in early 1967.....only beat once in a street race and took on all comers.
Sold it and bought a new GTO off the showroom floor...$2,765.
Yup, you read it right.
I heard those 400Es had some thick cylinders, you could bore them out to use 425 pistons.
Apparently Olds made the 425 first, then when GM allowed cubic inches up to 400 in the A body Olds used blocks that were originally designed to be machined to 425 ci , so they reduced the bore to 4in from 4.125
400s in 65 had their own casting number. Crank and rods were shared with the 425.
@@thunderkiss1965 Right, and the 1965 lifters were .842 and in 66 and 67 the 400 had .921 lifters while the 425 had either.
Mannn - I love that car!
Very cool walkaround, Steve. I just received my 1/25 scale model of the 1967 442 W30 from Round 2... what color to paint it?
64 Poncho LeMans, my first car, had the same roofline/greenhouse as this car. I imagine both cars shared "see through components".
With the VIN (from the HOC website) we win: 3 for Oldsmobile, 3827 for two door Cutlass Sport Coupe with 442 option, 5 for 1965 model year, Z for Fremont, CA assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The Fremont, CA plant was rife with labor problems and issues and closed in 1982. It later became the GM and Toyota NUMMI plant from 1984 to 2010 and today this is the Tesla assembly plant. The original Fremont workers were hired back to join NUMMI as long as they "dried out" and learned the ways of the Japanese assembly line methods. It worked.
With the tag, we can brag: 65 for 1965 model year, 33827 for two door Cutlass Sport Coupe with 442 option, BF for Fremont, CA assembly, 942 for Dark Green interior trim, J-J for Forest Mist lower and upper exterior paint and 7E for the fifth week of July 1964 production.
No mention of post coupe versus holiday coupe or rear boxed control arms??
That's not correct. The model 3827 was for the post coupe which doesn't mean it has the 442 option. The 442 didn't become it's own model until 1968 with the body codes of 4477 post coupe, 4487 holiday coupe or 4467 convertible. You are looking for the code 5VY at the left of the tag, but it's not always there. But the larger concern is the production date. If the car was made fifth week of July, how could the owner have purchased it on June 12th?
@@oldman-zr2ru I am aware of when it became a separate model. You are incorrect. The 442 option in 1965 could be had on the Club Coupe (3427), the Sports Coupe, (3827) and the Holiday Coupe (3837), as well as the convertible (3867). Yes, I made a typo, it should be the 5th week of July 1964.
The reason why "it's not always there" is because each Fisher plant had different protocol as to how the tags were stamped. As this is a "Freaky Fremont" car, you're lucky it had a tag at all. The Fremont plant was a notorious plant full of drunks and druggies and was the worst in the GM system.
@@googleusergp No, you are incorrect. YOU stated above that the 3827 code meant it had the 442 option, wrong. I have the 65 service manual right in front of me. The 3827 code is for the Cutlass F 85 coupe with V8. That doesn't mean it's automatically a 442, that's an option on top of the 3827 code. I won't debate the production date with you but it seems rather odd the car would have a production number of 133xxx and be built in late July of 64 and then sit around on a lot somewhere for a year before being bought. Just odd. I have owned a few 65's and most of my experience is with Lansing cars but they weren't much better as option codes are almost never complete.
@@oldman-zr2ru Ok, Boomer, whatever you say. We'll leave it at that. No, that's incorrect. A vehicle could sit around for a year before it was sold. Not unlikely, since this was an odd color and short of any story from the original owner, we'll never know. Maybe it was a dealer demo and didn't get sold to the first retail customer for a while. How would I know that? My father was a GM car salesman and it happened all the time.
I'm very much aware of the 442 being an option on that Fisher Body style. I'm going on the notion that this is a real 442 and is being advertised as such, hence I "made it" a 442, going on that. I'm very much aware of how to verify trim tags, VINs and all of that. Unlike you, I don't have to read the book every time to verify things.
You do realize that sometimes each GM plant had their own sequence number starting series, correct? Ah, you do now, as I just told you. Each plant would at times have a starting sequence different than the others. There were several plants making these cars in those years, but since you're educating the world from the Oldsmobile shop manual, you know that again as well.
The 1965-67 400 differs from the later 400 1968-69 in that the 65 was a larger bore shorter stroke 4.00x3.975 with a lower deck height. The later 400 used the crankshaft and rods from the 455 and it's bore and stroke was 3.87x4.125 over square.
Undersquare.
@@waynekarjala2032 thanks
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Thing is, the 4-4-2 idea got lost almost immediately. The intent was to present a high performance-seeking driver with an INEXPENSIVE way to get to near-GTO territory but for the price of a Sprint 6. Then, when Olds decided to try to go head-to-head with Pontiac (good luck, bro..) the GTO had all those little extras, like a Hurst shifter stock. Olds? Looked like a truck shifter.
Fremont was the first plant that used a W code for the 442 performance option. W29 appears on the build sheet showing that the car has the 442 option. Lansing didn’t use that code internally. This car might have a sheet under the carpet or on top of the gas tank. Should have a broadcast card attached to the rear seat bottom too.
I wonder what the sticker price was on that unit. I bought a 66 chevelle, 2 dr sedan, 327/275 hp, 4spd, no power, for $2335, as I recall. New.
OH.. By the way.. GREAT Car
I got a clone just like that. Silver with a .030 over 68 olds 350 with #5 heads. She is a tire fire
Car and Driver review of the 442 - 4 barrel carb, 4 inadequate brakes and too little tire.
Steve, how about an update on your vintage MOPAR cop car ?
We will do a video
Got one, same color. Found it at a rummage sale in central Wisc. Paid $2,450.00 back in 94’. Came with original 400. But looks like it had the automatic in it and changed to a 4sp. 2nd owner drag raced it (I’m 4th owner) and came with a offy dual quad setup with Rochester 4GC’s. It’s been sitting for 6 years, but I’m working on getting it out this summer of 24’.
Also, why blur the image of the dog in the later part of the video?? Was he showing a present in his mouth he found for Steve?!? Haaaaa!!!
Looks like the steering box was aluminum?
that seat... is like a punch in the face!
It’s original what can ya do
@@highoctaneclassics3969 not replacing the leather of the seats you are loosing potential buyers
It’s vinyl
I always feel sorry for cars that spend their lives in city's.
My 65 442 is a hard top but in this same color (but the top is white). And mine is a 4 speed.
Is the hole in the driver's seat oem? Why wouldn't you replace it? Is that hole worth something?
His slippers 😅
What differential is offered with the 442 option?
In 65 the 4-4-2 used the 8.2 Pontiac 10 bolt.
I once knew a drunk guy named Ambrose who had one in the convertible version. He painted his with latex paint and a brush. lol. True.
Farm tractor enamel laid on with a brush self-levels and looks pretty good... and only $25/gallon... also available in clear for clear coating... ...
NO.. The GM Limit.. was nothing over 400 in an A or F body
First 330", then 400", then 455"... '63 Pontiac already ready 336" was called a '326' to slip under the 330 rule... Pontiac later claimed 330" limit only applied to size of 'base V8'... so made 389" an 'option'...
Sharp Olds , i would have had the driver seat redone and slapped some dog dish caps on it .
The olds 442 is based on olds cop package the Apprehender package.
Nobody, outside of Lansing Michigan, bought Olds police cars... they just named it that to get their muscle car past upper management...
In 64 yes, basically built with off the shelf parts they already had
My first car was a 13 year old one owner 1964 F-85
Needs the splash shields in the inner fenders up front. Those were 7.75-14 Firestone Deluxe Champions and could be had as blackwall, white stripe, or red lines. They offered no traction and if you were serious about that Friday night street race or Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! at the local strip, you upgraded to Atlas Bucron 8.50-14 with soft rubber compound for the rears, run 'em at about 20psi at the track. Dad had a new '66 GTO with 3 carbs, M21 and 3.90 saf-t-trac and no power steering or power brakes. It could fry those Deluxe Champions if you floored it at 80mph, square business.
Firestones we’re not an optional tire. US royal was the supplier of redlines on 65 Oldsmobiles
@@thunderkiss1965 My 1966 GTO left the dealership with Firestone Deluxe Champion red lines.
Ok. You bought a GTO. Oldsmobile didn’t use Firestones.
@@thunderkiss1965 OK. I took too much for granted. Thanks for the correction.
I prefer the more "Subtle" performance cars