DYING WISHES OF A QUEEN | What happened when Mary I died? Final orders of a queen. Burial of Mary I
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- The DEATH OF QUEEN MARY I occurred on 17 November 1558, but before she passed away, she signed off on what would be the final commands of a queen; her last will and testament. This document dealt with her bequests to individuals and charitable institutions, what she wanted done with her body and that of her long deceased mother, Catherine of Aragon and the succession to the English throne. This last will of a queen provides a fascinating glimpse into her mentality, her attitudes towards her family members (including her husband, King Philip II of Spain and her dead father and brother, Henry VIII and Edward VI) and her belief that she was expecting a child. If you’re wondering, was Mary I pregnant, the answer is no and in her final days, even she had to admit it. It’s interesting though to see how she referred to her sister and heir, the soon-to-be Elizabeth I, and what she did and didn’t say about her in this document.
This Tudors documentary video from History Calling will take you through the last orders of a Queen and one who (as a Tudor) was arguably one of the most famous queens in history, or at least in English history. As for what happened when Mary I died, some of her wishes were carried out and others very clearly weren’t and we’ll look at some examples from both categories. There will also be a brief discussion of the burial of Mary I in Westminster Abbey, which (if she could see it), would probably make her roll in her grave.
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Do you think Elizabeth I should have observed Mary's wishes about where Mary and Catherine of Aragon were buried? Let me know below and remember to check out my Patreon. Link in the description box.
Quite honestly, yes. As good of a monarch as she was, she should’ve respected that. Same with Mary Queen of Scots’ burial.
Yes.
Definitely! Mary1 paved the way for Liz1 and got a lot rolling for what Liz took credit for. It was horrible of Liz to deny her that one last wish after everything Mary1 had been put through during her life. And that Mary1 is still with Liz in one tomb is utterly disgusting...
She should have. Im sure her maker has spoken to her about this.
Considering the torture they each lived out, I don't expect Elizabeth to treat Mary any different than Mary treated her. They both lived such unloving, brutal lives emotionally, it's any wonder they didn't off themselves. But as children we live out the karmic fall-outs of our parents actions. So it was just a horrible leflgacy to be handed down in the first place. I wonder if Mary and Elizabeth would have found peace and love outside of court and left the crown all together. Maybe they would have, anything us better than what we learned happened..
My wish is that ALL involved find Peace in the hereafter.
Thank you, love your videos!!
Her life was so tragic. I can't imagine her experiences' toll on her mental health. That would mess up anyone. I'm not saying it is an excuse, but a reason for her disposition.
I completely agree. Once you see what her father put her through, it's much easier to understand how she became the person she became.
Totally. The way I see it she just wanted her life before Anne Boleyn back. The problem is she was blinded by that hope and vision.
Well said!
Her father was constantly threatening her and she had reason to take him seriously, having seen what he did to people he felt had crossed him, even if he supposedly loved them. Most of her life was lived under extremely stressful conditions.
Absolutely. It's very sad. Her own father threatened her life. Her own father! Very tragic indeed.
All of Henry's children were deeply troubled and always afraid of losing their positions. They grew up seeing and knowing what Henry was capable of and being manipulated by both Henry and all sorts of other people around them. During Henry's reign there was always a faction or a family trying to overthrow another faction or family to manipulate the King and gain power for themselves. It was no different when he died. Edward, Mary and Elizabeth were always at the mercy of others trying to do the same and they knew it. All through their lives I feel they lived in fear.
Maria Fury Nobody could manipulate Henry the 8th he was the master manipulator
@@aprilgosa5779 ain't that the truth! Ugh Henry VIII.
Elizabeth continued to live in fear for her life, due to Mary Queen of Scots and her supporters' efforts to murder her and take her throne.
At the beginning of her reign, Elizabeth would have had to have been insane to disinter Catherine of Aragon and to call attention to all the questions of her own legitimacy. If she wasn't going to cause a stir by reburying her own mother, uncle and cousins, why would she create a controversy by literally digging up the scandal that preceded her birth? If Mary wanted her mother's body moved to a more prominent location, she needed to do it during her own reign.
EXACTLY
Excellent point , you know history and human nature ❤
Agree
Okay the moving pictures are freaking me out!!!!
Like Hogwarts
From Mary's point of view, I can imagine she felt betrayed by Edward and Elizabeth. Edward excluded her from the crown, and Elizabeth was likely guilty of plotting against her. She'd suffered a lot because her father wanted them to exist over her, and even then she was close to them when they were younger. She was also writing her will when either thinking she was pregnant and might die like her grandmother or knowing she wasn't pregnant, being laughed at by her subjects and was about to die, with everyone swarming around Elizabeth. I can see why she might have been in a less than jovial mood. I would love to know what Elizabeth was thinking in Mary's dying days.
Yes, the fact that Elizabeth had probably plotted against her is often overlooked. I wouldn't have been too happy with her if I'd been Mary either. Then again, Elizabeth probably wouldn't have plotted had she not been religiously persecuted.
Elizabeth did not plot against Mary-to do so would have sealed her fate. As it is, Mary imprisoned Elizabeth & Elizabeth thought Mary would execute her.
@@H1X2N4 It's likely that she did, her stand just like to deny it.
@@H1X2N4 Similar to when Elizabeth imprisoned Mary Stuart, but different when Elizabeth had Mary Stuart killed.
@@valentinr.dominguez2892 exactly !!!
You explain our complicated ancient history so simply and eloquently. Thank you.
Thanks Katrina. Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
I do think Elizabeth should have honored her wishes but I am not surprised that she didn’t. The whole horrible religion thing was always going to be a problem between them. Their father set them up for these terrible things to be between them.
Yeah, I'm not surprised either. After all, Elizabeth didn't even rebury her own mother.
@@HistoryCalling that was more because of what it would’ve caused then, she had to be Henry’s daughter not Anne’s
Especially since Henry did EVERYTHING Catholic except worship the Pope. For that reason, Elizabeth should have done what was requested, as many a Catholic roamed free during her reign, including all those Bishops.
@@HistoryCalling Elizabeth had to avoid big public gestures about Anne Boleyn. She had to erect a wall of silence around the whole 'bastardry' thing being thrown at her face all the time. Politically, it would have been very unwise to remind the world about her mother. Privately however, she did favour Boleyn relatives above everybody else (Sir Francis Walsingham even remarked on this) and she died wearing the Checkers Ring, which does contain the face pattern used for Anne Boleyn during the 16th century.
@@stephanieking4444 I disagree. I think it's more a later notion that Elizabeth's decisions around her mother's memory were all private. The fact that contemporaries commented on her promoting Boleyn relatives means it wasn't much of a secret and in Elizabeth's coronation proceedings and celebrations there were very obvious nods to her mother. These were very public and agreed to by Elizabeth, herself. I think the reception of Anne Boleyn's downfall and execution was more grey than anything in 1536, so by the time Elizabeth came to the throne, now that Henry VIII and Mary I were both dead, the rehabilitation of Anne Boleyn had begun. Not trying to argue, I just disagree going off of what we know.
Mary's whole life just feels like one gut punch after another. Even in death she gets shunted aside and most of her last wishes end up coming to nothing. She may have done some terrible things during her reign but I can't help but feel so much pity for her. She is one of the great losers of history and honestly I think she deserved so much better than what she ended up getting.
Yes, I find myself feeling great pity for her too when I read about her early life and see how much she loved her husband and how little that love was returned (though I don't blame Philip for not falling in love with her. You can't force that and it was a political marriage after all).
Mary should have used her intelligence to rule like Elizabeth did. But she did not and instead fell into a woman's plight in those years.
@@duchesspipay9148 Dude that is a horribly misogynist thing to say
@@naomiskilling1093 I don't believe it's a misogynist thing, it is how I perceive it so. Imagine, Mary had the best education a princess can and having strong women like her mother and grandmother, she would not have acted the way she did. What I mean about fell into a woman's plight is that she became reliant to her husband King Philip.
@@duchesspipay9148 Pitting woman against woman is misogynistic and that's what you did with your comparison without taking into consideration that Mary had to be the blueprint for a Reigning Queen and how to deal with marriage and crown. Elizabeth had the benefit of hindsight and benefited from her sister's and their cousin, MQoS's mistakes. She solved the problem by not marrying, which was a wise move, but she ended the Tudor dynasty, which was exactly why Henry VIII wanted sons. The sons carry the dynasty, not the daughters, not even when they have a male heir. The male heir will carry the name/dynasty of their father, not their mother.
I subscribe to several history channels and must say that I find your documentary videos some of the finest online. Thank you for providing such excellent, well-researched commentary about the historical figures you have covered.
That's so kind of you. Thank you very much and I hope I continue to deliver for you! 😀
I don't think Elisabeth could have moved, according to Mary's last will, the body of Queen Catherine to Westminster Abbey. If she would have done so, she would have diminished her own mother (whom she did not move either) and thus proclaiming truth in the illegitimacy of Henry's and Catherine's divorce. Making her own claim to the throne more feeble.
I think the reason Mary is viewed as being bloody is simply because during her reign she was mainly out for revenge. Based on how her father treated her and her mother. Elizabeth especially wasn’t liked because of who her mother was and was a constant reminder of how her life drastically changed. Protestants were to her the enemy. I don’t think Elizabeth was in any plot against Mary because she knew that would instantly get her killed. Elizabeth was very smart and only executed those that were trying to have her killed. I believe that while on the throne Elizabeth was in constant survival mode.
And the fact a Protestant Queen reined after her with Protestant historians writing about her
Hmm, I don't know about what Elizabeth may or may not have plotted. If you see my videos on her life, it certainly looks like she at least knew about but didn't report plots against Mary, but she was far too clever to leave a paper trail, so we'll never know how involved she really was.
@@HistoryCalling Yes I have heard of Elizabeth knowing but not taking any part because one whisper from the rebels about Elizabeth would of got her killed and how Mary's personality is I think she would of done it like her mother's death
Mary brought to justice those that had mistreated, persecuted and killed Catholics under the reigns of Henry VIII and Edward VI. She did not kill them just because they were Protestants. For this reason, she should not be known as Bloody. That would be like the pot calling the kettle black. Remember that the religious killings (mostly of Catholics) started and were continued by Protestants, before Mary came around. And then resumed under Elizabeth.
@@HistoryCalling So Mary was dumb but no proof of plotting against Elizabeth so let's make it up
So sad that she's not with her mother especially considering she was separated from her during her life. Her life was so tragic. Being loved so much by he father only to be cast out as if she wasn't even his child. Then separation from Catherine, marriage to a man who probably wasn't too thrilled to be married to her, not to have children and the sadness of her pregnancies that didn't even existed....so she never even conceived, On a throne for only 5 years after really anticipating her seat there from birth, then to be remembered as Bloody Mary after death. Just like her mother, her life just makes me so sad!
But of course I loved the video! Thanks for doing one on her will. I learned a few new things!👍👍😁😁
Having known firsthand the heartbreak of being unable to conceive a child, I feel for Mary especially on that score, plus all the terrible things that were done to her by her own family. But it's also so sad that although Mary showed so much concern and care for the ordinary people of her realm (as evidenced by the multiple bequests to care for the country's veterans, her servants, the poor, and the sick, in addition to her charitable actions during her reign), she was ungratefully slapped with a nasty moniker and relegated to the villains' gallery of history. She certainly deserves better.
Watched this in my darkened room a lil before 4 p.m. today with thunderstorms goin on outside, a perfect way to watch something deathly related. I love the way you talk about history though, you always seem to know what to say in simplest terms, so that even the not so highly gifted people, me for example lol, understand it. I just wish my history professors were as kind to the brain & ears. :) lol
Thank you and I think you're very gifted, having read lots of your comment over the past year or so. Don't put yourself down. 🙂
Thanks for that uplift. :)
I'm so anxious to watch this. I love the way you capture the facts and don't embellish them with a lot of false and unverified claims to fantasize the history. I still think you should narrate Masterpiece Classics. Your voice and accent lend so much to the history you are retelling. As an American it is so important for us to know the story behind the kingdom that led to our beginnings. Almost 100% of my ancestors came to the colonies between the 1600 and 1700s, so I have this strong feelings that we are all very distant cousins in a way. Thank you for painting such a real visual picture for us all.
Excellent summary of Queen Mary I's years as queen. I really enjoy all these videos and your insight into these times and people. I feel that Queen Mary I was treated horribly by her father and it was heartbreaking that she never got to see her mother again, and her life overall was incredibly sad and tragic.
I love the topics you select. They're the passing thoughts you can never find enough information about. It's really a high point in my week to have my alarm for your videos go off. ❤️
Thanks Audrianna and I wish more people had their notification bell switched on. :-)
Terrible times and trauma create terrible people. Religious extremism can and still does inspire and rationalize atrocities. Mary was an abused and traumatized religious extremist Queen of her times.
Wonderful video! It's impossible not to feel Mary's pain! Another piece of collateral damage Henry left in his wake. I hope she found peace 🙏
I can easily say that Mary’s wishes should’ve been honored, but it was more complicated. It seems that Mary’s hatred towards Anne Boleyn were carried over to Elizabeth. Her life was certainly tragic. She never got over what her father did to her and her mother. Elizabeth lived knowing that her sister Mary hated her mother. I know at times the three Tudor siblings got along at times. Mary’s and Elizabeth’s relationship as sister was complicated. Maybe Elizabeth did not honor her wishes because of their complicated relationship. Mary didn’t mention her sister in her will. This is my take.
Enjoyed your video. Thank you. Have a great weekend.
Yes, they did get on for a while after Anne Boleyn's death. It's a shame things soured again.
Mary I is always one I’m happy to learn about! Such an interesting character.
Yes her psychology is really interesting. When you look at her teenage years and 20s, you can kind of see how she went so wrong later.
@@HistoryCalling Totally! She did inexcusable things but taking context into discussion and compare her atrocities with that of her father and siblings (yes, I include Elizabeth here for as good of a ruler as she was, she could be too ruthless) we learn that she did wrong, but not worse than the tudors.
I think it unreasonable to ask your successor, which you don't even name in your will, to spend a fortune burying yourself with your mother, when you didn't do it yourself. Elizabeth had plenty of other things to worry about when she inherited the throne. The 2 women were half sisters thrown into this terrible situation by their father. This isn't something that you can "get over" in the 16th century. I just wished they had not been so brutal about it. The memorial to those they both had burnt, is fitting and it is only fair that these people are remembered at this point, so close to the queen who had them killed for their faith. Such a waste of so many lives.
Yes, I think she was being very optimistic about Elizabeth moving Catherine, especially as Catherine was already buried in a perfectly lovely cathedral, as opposed to under the floor in the Chapel of St Peter Ad Vincula in an arrow chest, like Anne Boleyn.
Last Will & Testament’s are funny things, they leave no doubt how the deceased really felt about you! And it doesn’t take a scholar (though you, Ms. History Calling, make a brilliant scholarly effort in this presentation) to see that Mary’s will indicated grave misgivings towards her father and siblings.
Categorically, both Mary and Elizabeth tried to erase many of the things their father worked for or believed in. Mary tried to undo the reformation, and restored the legality/legitimacy of herself and her mother to the throne, while Elizabeth ensured that there would be no male heir and that the Tudor name would die with her. “FU, father…”
To be honest, I just feel very sad for both Mary and Elizabeth. They were born on the opposite side of faiths and in many ways destined to always conflict. I can’t imagine how difficult it would have been to be either of them, never knowing who to trust, never really have time to think alone, to find out who they really were, aside from everyone’s expectations. And the fact that matters of religion were so absolutely serious, taken with such gravity…they really believed their souls were at stake. I’ve never been able to cope with the brutality of the time but mental health was not at its prime back then, and l think we need to remember that we think, and view the world, so differently to how Mary and Elizabeth would have. I feel a lot of empathy for Mary. She had such a thwarted life. I can’t accept her decisions were right, her methods, but it was hardly a case of Mary being the only person to be cruel. It was a very different world. Nowadays we are too quick to judge the whole of a person by our standards. Elizabeth was a phenomenal woman, no doubt in my mind. I just wish Mary had found some kind of peace and validation in her life. She just might have been a very different Queen. I hope they are both at peace.
Thank you so much for this! I so appreciate your balanced views and style:)
Thanks Deidre. I agree that we are too quick to impose our standards on a completely different world and that Mary and Elizabeth deserve great sympathy in many respects. It was no easy life being them.
@@HistoryCalling absolutely. They were of their time, and it would not have been easy at all. I’d love to see an in depth film depiction of their relationship, and of Mary’s life. They were both fascinating women :)
It boggles the mind that the only thing that stood between the old religion and the reformation was Mary's womb. If Mary had born an heir, England's history would be been so different today.
Nothing would have changed. The people if England were fed up with the R C religion. Like most of Europe.
@Laurie Lovett in your opinion,
That’s why the city turned out en masse for her coronation and rebelled against Lady Jane Grey.
Well done. I visited the Tomb of Mary & Elizabeth in the Abbey which was impressive. I think that it is fitting to have a memorial to those who perished in the Reformation. Excellent production and narration.
I always look forward to your videos and this one (as usual) was so well done!
I think Elizabeth should have, morally and ethically, followed Mary's wishes but it in no way surprises me that she didn't. I also find it very sad that Elizabeth's coffin is on top of Mary's as a last sort of insult but considering the way they treated each other in life that also doesn't surprise me.
Considering Mary herself didn't find the money and means to reinter Catherine there's no way Elizabeth would've bothered.
Every time I read something about the Tudors it just strikes me how dysfunctional the relations were between all of them.
I know. It's tough to decide which family was more dysfunctional; Plantagenets or Tudors. Glad you liked the video topic this week 🙂
@@HistoryCalling The Stewarts too. Also look at the strife between Matilda and Stephen.
It it's any consolation, it was James I who put E's coffin on top.
You are a wonderful teacher,I would never fall a sleep listening to you,thanks so much!
Both sisters suffered under Henry. Mary could not see her mother because of her father, Elizabeth lost her mother because of him. If we are talking about damaged princess, we should talk about both of them. Elizabeth was only 2 years when her mother was beheaded and I bet that for along time people did not let her forget it. I do pity both of them.
loved this one!! Mary had such an unfortunate life but still so captivating and all of the “what ifs” are so interesting to think about. excellent job!
Thank you. Yes, her life had much tragedy in it. No doubt that's partly why she ended up the way she did.
@@HistoryCalling absolutely!! if anyone has a legit excuse it would be her lol
I enjoyed the story and well having the pictures move! That is so cool! Thank you.
You're welcome. Some people dislike the moving pictures, but I think it's a nice change from the static imagery.
Why would anyone dislike the moving pictures? I like to aee them move like they were really here still!
omg - Phillip felt a "reasonable regret" - poor Mary had so little in her life to be happy about - horrific Karma from somewhere
I know. It certainly wasn't the great love story she'd hoped for.
@@HistoryCalling - her youth would have been pleasant until Anne Boleyn - all down hill after that - poor thing
I think Henry and Anne keeping Catherine and Mary apart was terribly cruel. At that point Anne had Catherine's title, her home and her former husband but still salt was rubbed in by the new royal couple denying Catherine contact with the one joy left in her life as her resources dwindled and health faded. If they were worried about conspiracy they could even have supervised the visits. The fact Mary wasn't granted the request of being reunited with her beloved mother in death is certainly a great injustice. Mary's actions towards protestants were unforgivable but my heart goes out to that poor girl separated from her mother, forsaken by her previously affectionate father and made to serve her father's 'replacement daughter' and acknowledge her parent's marriage as false. That upbringing in that time was never going to produce the most mentally sound and well rounded individual.
Yeah, keeping Catherine and Mary apart WAS very cruel! I don't know what I would do if I never got to see my mother before she died!
Learning about Mary Tudor from this point of view has been very enlightening. Thank You
In my eyes now she no longer deserves the ominous title history has bequeathed upon her
Now, I feel great sadness and sympathy for Mary. For her life and all wishes of her afterlife
Yes, there's a lot more to her than just her last few years and when you know her history it's much easier to understand how she became the person she became.
When I visited England , we went to Westminster Cathedral and I was really surprised to see her buried there especially under Elizabeth. Thank you for such an interesting channel
You mean Westminster Abbey. Westminster Cathedral is a Roman Catholic Church close to the Abbey
A fascinating glimpse of Tudor machinations, HC, with plenty of resentment capped by the final bitter irony of Mary being buried with Gloriana. Mary's life was so dominated by betrayal and treachery that it's possible she was too overwhelmed to undertake having her mother's remains moved in her lifetime. As for Elizabeth, I'm not at all surprised that she didn't respect Mary's wishes in respect to her burial. She probably felt totally disrespected by the lack of recognition in the will. It's not as if they felt the bonds of sisterhood. Great video, HC. Your high standards in terms of research really shine through. Until next week, be well.
Thanks Stephen. I'm not surprised Elizabeth didn't move Catherine either. It would have been a political minefield for her to do something like that, plus as you say, the sisters weren't close by Mary's death.
As always, Dr Ms History, you’ve made a master piece. :)
I must say, I love how fast your views go up now. It’s so well deserved.
Regarding the Mary being the first queen, wasn’t there an Anglo Saxon queen that ruled in her own name? I cannot for the life of me think of her name though, and as I say it, I do worryingly think that perhaps she was just a king of Mercia or Wessex, in which case pretend I didn’t say anything! Haha.
I do always find it so dreadfully sad that the three siblings seem to not got on, to the point that even their last requests weren’t honoured. If you ever want proof Henry the Eighth was a monster, that’s it.
Thank you. I wish Marilyn Monroe had done a lot better though. I was surprised at how unpopular that one proved. The Tudors are usually a safe bet however, so far at least. Yes, one of the other commenters mentioned the Anglo saxon on Queen. I should have specified post-conquest.
@@HistoryCalling My guess is that Marilyn Monroe will slowly accumulate views over time. Think about what shows up on a person's recommended list. Your regular followers are probably very interested in a certain era of history and pay attention to those kinds of posts most. It took me a few days before I realized that Marilyn Monroe was yours. I ignored it until I noticed it was from History Calling (and therefore would be of good quality). Marilyn fans who are not also Tudor fans on the other hand might not see your video on their recommended list for a while but I think it may slowly make the rounds.
My geeky self would love to see an analysis of view counts by day for any particular video.
@@HistoryCalling Yeah, I’d have to second Ms Biddy (sorry. While it’s your username, that feels rude to say haha).
There’s probably not much overlap between Tudor history, and Ms Monroe. I enjoyed both, but then I’ve watched yours religiously since I found you, and even watched the two or three back before I’d found you (told you I’m your self confessed biggest fan haha) but if people watch more casually, they may see Marilyn and go ‘ah. Another one’ and not bother, or click off.
Do TH-cam analytics still show how long the viewers are watching still? I know they used to. It’s why I joked when I tried TH-cam before that I was a minute man, since that’s where I’d lose viewership.
Really great video! I love this dying wishes of a monarch series
I love your channel so much! I have a quick question…where are all of these sources found? Are they kept in an archive library somewhere in England? Are they online?
Thank you. The primary sources I use are generally available online, though sometimes they are behind a paywall. With secondary sources, again they might be online, but I also own or buy relevant books.
I feel so bad for Mary I. I truly believe she wasn't as bad as history makes her out to be. We can look at certain events in her life and see she was compassionate and had a heart. Men took advantage of her, especially her husband. She was Henry VIIIs daughter, but she was also Catherine of Aragons daughter as well. People forget that.
I agree there was a lot of good in her up to a point, but she really destroyed her reputation and let the bad in her out during her final years. She could be kind, generous and loving too though.
She really was. A nasty zealot.
Queen Mary was a good hearted monarch and a strong one. However, her fatal mistake was being a zealous Catholic. She was naive too because she thought that when Catholicism was reinstated, abundance would follow. However, it was too complex an issue. Her marriage to King Philip of Spain was no good and she became his puppet which she had lost Calais.
She had alot of love to give and the dedication to her faith is incredible but I think with all the instability she endured after her parents divorced, her false pregnancies and her obsession with essentially rewriting history.....it broke her.
She actually started out really well if you look at her early reign. It just went downhill coz of religion
I think Mary was a very tortured soul, and I think that Elizabeth should've fixed the spots of Catherine and Mary (and quite honestly Mary, Queen of Scots too) but I am not surprised she didn't. Though they were sisters (and Mary of Scots was her cousin), the whole religion problem would surely leave such a strain on them. I think that Mary was very justified in her hatred, yes, but I also think that she was driven a little bit insane while a teenager and that left a permanent mark I don't think anything ever thought.
Yes, I can't see Elizabeth caring too much about Catherine in particular given the emnity between C and Anne Boleyn, which was partly based on their differing religious views (and the adultery with Henry VIII too of course).
@@HistoryCalling Yes but during Mary's reign she was very parrinoid and even locked Elizabeth in the tower of London for almost a month I mean if my sibling done that I would not care of their dying wish
@@HistoryCalling The difference between Catherine and Ann was mostly due to Ann and her ambition to replace Catherine. The only significance Ann gave to religion was that she could use the circumstances to her advantage. She did not care about religion otherwise. There was nothing noble about Ann Boleyn.
@@Valcro Remember that it was the Protestants under Henry, Edward and Elizabeth who were suppressing Catholics, not the other way around.
Elizabeth had people executed for treason,as she stated herself she didn't want to look into peoples souls. Mary was spiteful, she actually swore that if Cranmer and two other Protestant bishops changed back to the Catholic faith,she would spare them being burned to death, being very old frail men, and fearful of the flames they complied. Mary broke her oath, Had the 3 of them burned to death in Oxford . Cranford showed how brace he was, he blamed himself for returning to Catholicism, said this is the hand that signed that document,si it shall be the first to suffer,thrusting it into the flame,he died bravely. Mary was a maniac,had a boy of 12 burned to death in Smithfield for his belief. At the end of her reign there were no outpourings of grief,even the Catholics had had enough of her continual burnings.
I'm not sure you can call Mary I's life a failure based on how she is remembered. The victors (usually the countries who win wars, here for England the Protestants) always write history for a time until someone re-examines it with fresh unbiased eyes, which is now being done for both Mary I and her mother, Catherine (who was very successful Queen Regent, not just the mistreated wife of Henry 8th). Mary I was the 1st successful Queen of England in her own right. She started its modern navy and exploration around the world. Being the 1st she also established what England's idea of what a female monarch should be and historians have pointed out her father, likely had more subjects executed than Mary I, and Edward 6th and Elizabeth I executed probably as many so Mary I doesn't hold that record, but again, the victors had the chance to stick her with her unflattering monicker.
Ok but killing a certain amount of people in a forty year reign isn't as notable as killing the same amount in only five. Killing that many in such a short amount of time before getting cut off by an untimely death is way more gruesome then slowly building to the number over the course of decades.
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Her father was responsible for the birth of the Royal Navy. I am curious as to what exploration she supported.
Elizabeth and Henry had much longer reigns than Mary's, so sadly they had more opportunities. I fear that had she lived longer, she would have put more people to death.
She did establish the idea that a woman could rule England in her own right, which certainly made it easier for Elizabeth.
that list of titles is amazing!😍 i’ve never heard them before associated with Mary
I know. Hardly anyone ever seems to remember that she was also Queen of Spain, never mind all the other titles.
I was reading about that period from the perspective of the Gonzagas over in Mantua. They were very much aware that she was Queen of Spain because they were all about getting Cardinal Gonzaga as Pope, and they thought Philip had the power to influence the next papal election. So they made some big trips to England to lobby for his support.
@@annmoore6678 very interesting!
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The irony is that Mary had a soft spot for the young Elizabeth that was not sustained in adulthood. I'm minded to think that Elizabeth felt no especial responsibility, or honour in moving Catherine's remains to lie with her daughter, considering the level of hostility and jealousy that Mary felt towards - and displayed to her younger sibling. After all, if Mary could have gotten away with it, she would quite possibly have had Elizabeth executed. In a curious twist of fate, Mary Queen of Scots was to Elizabeth what Elizabeth was to Mary, her sister. In truth, Elizabeth, never plotted the downfall of her sister in the way Mary Queen of Scots did with her cousin.
I’m a Catholic convert from Protestantism and after my research of Mary and Katharine after that fact I sympathize her, Henry and Elizabeth weren’t sinless in how they treated Catholics and I can only imagine how traumatizing it would be seeing Monks and other Religious being killed and can see Mary as a child and young woman thinking SHE was next on the chopping block, Elizabeth should have respected her sister’s wishes and moved her remains to be with her mother, I can only imagine how different history would’ve been if Mary was actually pregnant
Mary was a monster thank hevensy she had no children. Elizabeth left people to practice e their own religion,as long as they didn't interfere in politics
@@laurielovett8849 I said nothing about that if you go back and look. If anyone was a monster it was Henry for traumatizing both his daughters and as a loving sister Elizabeth should’ve at least given Mary one thing in her sad life and moved her to be with her mother
I was a catholic but no longer. Why should Elizabeth sort out the buriel places of either Mary or her mother, Mart was in power for5 years why didn't she do it. Mary was in cahoots with Rome the Vatican to have Elizabeth murdered no doubt about that. So you think it would be justifiable to have me burnt to death because I shifted away from R Catholicism
@@macgyversmacbook1861 Why? When Mart was in power why did she not shift her mother,or for that matter Elizabeth's mother
I do really enjoy your historical work. In the Tudor-era, it’s just magnificent.
Thanks Sean :-)
Hmmmm that is a tough question. The fact that she didn’t make sure Mary’s wishes were carried out doesn’t make her a bad person but makes her a human person, if that makes sense lol! Had it been the other way around would Mary have honored her wishes? That decision was entirely up to Elizabeth. Tbh, I do feel bad for Mary for what has befallen her during her childhood but her actions during her reign sealed her fate in history, her reputation I should say. People remember her as Bloody Mary for a reason and I doubt she showed any remorse for her actions. I don’t believe Elizabeth l plotted against her, she was too smart for that. I also feel bad she was kept from seeing her mother ever again, that was beyond cruel!
I think expecting her sister to abide by her wishes in regard to Catherine was a pipe dream. The sisters had been set against each other from the moment Henry VIII decided to marry Anne and divorce Catherine. Add to that the religious division and the fact that Elisabeth did not have any duty to Catherine, who held no close relationship to her and was already dead and buried - why on earth should she suddenly honour Catherine when Mary herself couldn't be bothered to make arrangements for her mother during her own reign? Contrarily, reburying Catherine would open up again the whole legitimacy issue around Henry divorcing Catherine against the stated rules of the time, marrying Anne, having her executed and throwing Elizabeths own legitimacy in question?
Whether she believed in the legal fiction of Catherines and Henrys marriage being bigamist in nature or not, as a woman on the throne in those times, with all the other issues facing her, the only sensible way to deal with Mary was to bury her with acceptable honors and as quickly as was advisable, and otherwise deal with the issues stemming from the decades of religious unrest and instable monarchy.
Don’t you think Henry the 8 should have just given both Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard an annulment instead of having them killed
Yes.
Oh definitely.
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@@jackmcnally9237 thanks I am aren’t I lol
Not Catherine Howard.
Westminster Abbey provides interesting insights. Mary is tucked away under Elizabeth. Apparently James 1 insisted his mother Mary Queen of Scots had at least as splendid a memorial as Elizabeth and she's near door. Can you imagine the unease if their ghosts are still there?
I'd contrast Elizabeth's attitude to Mary's respect for Anne of Cleves will which was covered in a previous episode.
Great work again thanks!
Consider this,Marys ladies in waìting loved her very dearly,and she them.her death shattered them and broke their hearts.they wrote about her in their diaries.they never really got over it,it was so shocking.Mary had a side to her we know so little of.she was at heart a good woman.
Yes, I'm certain neither sister would be happy with their joint burial arrangements. Maybe James I got a little kick out it though, given that Elizabeth had had his mother killed.
Elizabeth knew very well what her sister
Went through. She knew how fragile her
Reign was. That’s what’s makes her so special.
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Thank you. I didn't see any other videos on the topic out there so i thought it would be a good one. Wait and see though. If the video is popular I bet you others will steal the idea from me. There are a couple of channels that do that a lot.
I understand why Elizabeth didn't respect Mary's wishes, but I wish that nowadays Katherine of Aragon could be moved to a more respectful location. Maybe if someone is willing to spend the money, both Anne Boylen and Catherine if Aragon could be moved closer to their daughters.
It would be ironic, Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boylen, Mary and Elizabeth all being burried together.
The fact that she names Henry V as a progenitor, despite the fact he is not in her direct line of descent, makes the paltry mentions of her father and brother seem even paltrier.
Yes, it's really striking how little Henry and Edward appear in this document. It says it all really as regards her feelings about them.
People often think Mary was this horrible evil monster but I actually have a great amount of sympathy for her. Her father tore her away from her mother and wasn't ever allowed to see her again; acted like he didn't even like her (let alone love her) except for the fleeting moments when his wives (Jane and Katherine Parr) intervened; threatened to have her imprisoned/executed if she didn't sign the Act of Succession and had Mary watch as he treated her siblings much better than he did, her. Her life is so sad so the least that Elizabeth could've done was to allow her to be buried next to her mother. I'm sure if Elizabeth could've been buried next to Anne Boleyn, she would've wanted the same.
Poor Katherine of Aragon and Mary, even in death, still not able to be together 😢 RIP to them both 🙏
Thank you for another wonderful, insightful video! While Mary's existence seemed to be a tale of two lives, at first kind and persecuted but at the end a heinous zealot, I wonder if she had the zealot inside her all along and it only came out when she had the power to wield it? Not sure.
I feel so bad with her life. She was a rightful heir she was the princess of Wales but her dad was a problem, his greed was never end and hurting everyone.
I love your channel. I do have a request though regarding the recording...each new thought starts off at one volume but drops to barely above a whisper. If one sets their volume to be able to hear the end, they are BLASTED when another thought is starts. It's the one thing that takes away from the enjoyment of your wonderful programs.
Jerusalem? I would love to know more about Mary's full title. Also, why didn't Philip make more of a play for the throne of England? Wasn't he king by marriage? Another wonderful video -- thank you once more!
The Jerrusalem title was fiction.
King and Queen of England, France, Naples, Jerusalem, and Ireland. Defenders of the Faith, Princes of Spain and Sicily, Archdukes of Austria, Dukes of Milan, Burgaundy, and Brabant, Counts of Habsbury, Flanders and Tyrol".[58]
If Elizabeth couldn't be bothered to move her mother's body to a more suitable resting place, she certainly wasn't going to do it for the Mary's mother. It would have been a lovely, empathetic gesture, however impractical to the time and circumstances.
I think with Anne, Elizabeth was probably thinking of the political issues around digging up and moving her mother. She wouldn't have wanted everyone to start talking again about her mother who was executed for treason, adultery and incest and about how Elizabeth was legally illegitimate.
Thank you, again, for a clear and thoughtful video. I would be very grateful if you were able to tell us from where the figure of 70,000 executed by Henry VIII, which I have occasionally seen in comments, comes from. It sounds impossibly high to me.
Amazing video as always thankyou XXX
Cardinal Pool that man's mother was excucuted by king henry viii. her heart is so sad for her and her grandson
You certainly covered every aspect as you always do HC, she had the time to have her mothers bones moved to a more suitable place but she never did, whilst I can say her life wasn't easy due to Henry's treatment of her and her mother, but she earnt her name for all the blood she poured on the altar of religion. Thank you as always.
I think if we are to name her “Bloody Marye” we shouldn’t refere to her sister as “Gloriana”. For while she certainly made England a major European power and ruled wisely, she was no saint. In one of her (the lady from HC) videos about the life of Elizabeth, though I can’t remeber wich one, she mentions a massacre people often don’t know of. Ofc, Marye’s actions were inexcusable, but Elizabeth did her share of cruelty too. History is written by the winners. I still like both of them, I simply dislike how Marye is vilified into this almost unhuman thing.
@@lfgifu296 Elizabeth ruled for longer and hence, had more opportunities to do more good that took away from her skeletons. What is significant about Mary's reign is that she only ruled for 5 years and did the things to get her the nickname of "Bloody Mary" and who is to say how much she could have accomplished, good or bad, if she hadn't have died in 1558? Can't compare that to 45 years of "Gloriana". Unfortunately, that's not how things worked out.
Oh certainly Mary did terrible things though Elizabeth did too. The massacre mentioned below might be one that happened in an island off the north of Ireland. I think it was Rathlin, but I'd need to check.
I think that secretly Mary blamed her mother for all her woes, otherwise the first thibh she would have done would be to have her mothers body transferred somewhdrre else,and make arrangements for her own buriel. Why did she expect the woman she imprisoned to do it for her
@@lfgifu296 She was inhuman. Look at it from the point if view of her victims relatives. She was incahiits with the pipe who promised a plenary indulgence ( agrear honour) to anyone who murdered Elizabeth
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I can't see why Elizabeth would move them, given she wasn't mentioned or bequeathed anything they must have been on bad terms. And if Mary didn't bother for her "most dear and well beloved mother of happy memory" then expecting Elizabeth to for a sister she was on bad terms with would seem rather optimistic
Yes, optimistic is the nicest way of putting it I think and there were indeed on bad terms.
PLEASE tell me why Elizabeth would feel the slightest obligation to carry out any of Mary's Final Wishes.
Mary rightfully was Crowned Queen of England after the Jane Grey attempted usurpation; but nearly immediately put Elizabeth under nigh-constant strain...fear for her very life. A SAINT would have found it difficult to forgive and forget all the sheer terror Elizabeth lived under for FIVE YEARS.
I imagine Mary was hoping for some sort of loyalty and for Elizabeth to want to set the precedent of monarch's wills being followed. She was barking up the wrong tree in this case though, at least as regards moving Catherine.
@@HistoryCalling "Loyalty", at least that toward actual blood relatives, was not a quality for which the Tudors were noticeably notable. But you are not wrong; if for no other reason than that blood bond, Mary perhaps felt she had the EXPECTATION of at least that one cherished hope being realized. Sadly, the Tudor monarchs, from Henry The Wretch through Elizabeth were financially as near-bankrupt as they were emotionally; and moving deceased Royalty was-and is-a spendy enterprise.
@@HistoryCalling well, if Mary was desiring the monarch's will to be respected, then Lady Jane Gray would have been Queen, as per the last king's (her half brother's) will.
I suspect Mary (like her parents) was selective about what she chose to respect and therfore can't expect more from Elizabeth.
Remember Mary had Elizabeth imprisoned in the Tower under threat of constant execution,being cross questioned daily, getting her to write statements,and where space left adding incriminating sentences, luckily Elizabeth copped this and was sensible enough to draw lines where any spaces existed, Mary even imprisoned Elizabeth's nurse and her husband, her faithful Kath, threatening her with burning if she wouldn't sign incriminating papers. Elizabeth suffered far more than Mary ever did
I don't wonder as much about Elizabeth not moving Catherine's resting place, but more that 1)Mary didn't do that in her life, and 2)if Mary had moved Catherine, would Elizabeth then have had Mary buried with Catherine and given Mary the 'tombstone' she deserved? I can't see an issue with burying Mary with Catherine in an already prepared place, but I can see Elizabeth having a problem labeling Catherine as Queen.
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Just had to do a quick check on all the titles used by Mary in her will. There were the usual ones, including Ireland and France but the others I had never heard used. So I suspected that they may have been acquired on her marriage to Philip. And that appears to be the case. She shared in his titles as well.
But how often did she share his bed, one wonders.
I know. Everyone always forgets about all her titles by marriage, but I think it's fascinating.
I think that if her burial wishes were that important to her, she should have started on them herself- i.e. move her mother and start construction on a tomb for them both. There is no reason Elizabeth should have done so.
Wow! Amazing information!
Interesting video. Just to let you know. Peterborough Cathedral is pronounced Peterburrah . The UK is full of different boroughs. London is divided into many borough districts. And they are all pronounced ‘burrah’’
She was one of those women who if they had only bad luck, they would have no luck at all. She did try, but failed miserably.
As a Christian , and I’ll go Catholic Church (family is all catholic) Lutheran , non denominational , it truly doesn’t matter to me where I worship , the end result is Jesus Christ is the son of the one and only God , and God would NOT encourage all this death and murders to follow him. It’s called free will. He gave us free will. He longs for us but he would NEVER murder others to follow him. So the fact that all these religious murders even happened to me was ironic and awful .. Jesus would never .
personally I think Elizabeth should have moved Katherine's body to Westminster , and buried Mary with her. I can also see Elizabeth's feelings...as Katherine was hardly close to her, beings her mother was Anne. I do like the fact that Queen Mary (wife of George V) placed the title of "Queen Katherine of England" by her grave, and the arms of a Queen above it.
Yes, I like that too. Catherine certainly deserved to have her title restored to her.
I think both sisters were treated terribly by their father and that created bitterness and jealousy on both sides. I don't think Elizabeth had children because she knew how awful their lives would be
It would be fascinating to know exactly why Elizabeth never wished to marry or have children. There are so many possible reasons, from the political to the personal. No one in her immediate family had good marriages though (at least not if they were female) and she must have noticed that.
Very good vid, as usual.
However, the paintings coming to life, just a little disconcerting. Thank you.
What's that old saying about "if you want a job doing, then do it yourself"? Mary had plenty of time to move Catherine's body so why should she expect Elizabeth to do it if she couldn't be bothered herself?
And the tudors must be one of the most dysfunctional families in our history. It seems that Elizabeth had just as much dislike of Mary as Mary did for her brother and father! And Catherine was no relation to Elizabeth either, so why go through the expense and trouble to have her moved just to please her dead half sister!
And then to cap it off being buried on TOP of her half sister. Talk about who's showing who's the boss....for eternity!
Great video by the way, well done and keep up the good work!
Thank you. Yes, it was a little rich of her to expect Elizabeth to move Catherine. I'm honestly surprised Mary didn't take care of this issue herself. We can argue that Catherine was Elizabeth's aunt, due to her marriage to Arthur Tudor, but I seriously doubt either of them thought of each other like that.
Great and very interesting summary. I recall reading that Mary's reign was known as the bloodiest and "Bloody Mary" came much later. As you say it was due to her many protestant burnings, but with the important detail of " within her short 5 year reign" as well as how intensly fantatical it was. A very brutal time. Thank you.
Well done! Thanks
Thanks Nathan. I thought this would make for an interesting topic.
Many Princesses of countries were promised in marriage as young children. As soon as the Princess had her first menstrual period they were married. Why was Mary unmarried at 16 yrs old?
Cause she was officially illegitimate, not an heir to anything?
And mist people had the void sense not to marry Mary
I'm quite sure Elizabeth didn't follow all of Mary's final wishes. Why would she. The woman made her life hell. Liz can't help it that she was born to Henry and Anne.
Mary would not at all have been happy about her burial with Elizabeth - I find it strange that Elizabeth wanted to share the tomb with Mary, as the two had disliked and distrusted each other in their lifetime. Don't forget Elizabeth was no saint and was herself responsible for the deaths of many Catholics. I am glad that this memorial to those who were killed due to their religion is placed near these two sisters. There is no doubt that Edward would have had Catholics persecuted and killed for their faith as would Jane, if either of them had remained on the throne. I wonder if, Edward would have had Mary executed had he lived. It is ironic that his mother Jane Seymour was a devout Catholic. I always find it strange that two groups of Christians chose to persecute and kill each other because they chose to worship Jesus Christ in a different way.
I imagine James I probably got to decide where Elizabeth was buried. As for Protestants and Catholics not getting along and how silly it all is, you're preaching to the choir here (no pun indended) given where I'm from (Northern Ireland).
@@HistoryCalling My father’s family was part of the Plantation of Ulster before going to the brand new US around 1822, and my mother’s grandparents were all Irish Catholics, so I’ve always hoped that whole conflict could finally be settled, since my parents did it!
@@HistoryCalling I am of Irish descent from both sides of the conflict. My mother came from an Orange Lodge background, my paternal grandmother's family came to England to flee the famine. Northern Ireland is an example of how religion has been used to separate people. Up until Henry's split from Rome, the entire country was catholic. Henry break from Rome was due to him wanting to replace one woman with another in order to have a son to secure the Tudor dynasty (as I am sure you are aware). He himself remained a catholic - but the religious divide began here, when his daughter Mary remained catholic but his two other children Edward and Elizabeth embraced the reformation. So began the religious turmoil which was to follow. If Henry had not split from Rome and declared himself Head Of The Church of England then England would have continued to be a catholic country. Religion would not have been weaponized as a tool for persecution and oppression to the extent that it was. Edward was about to make the mass illegal and would have had catholics persecuted and executed; Jane Grey was a also a fervent protestant and may well have done the same. Of course Elizabeth did kill catholics and sanctioned the burning of a number of catholic priests. I wonder if, had Edward lived, would he have had Mary executed? What if his mother Jane had lived and refused to convert? Would he have executed his own mother? These people seemed to forget that they did have catholic ancestors, and if all catholics had been killed they would not even have existed.
@Susan Gavaghan Elizabeth and Mary had different motives to killing the other religion Mary done it weekly for people who wouldn't change their religion and Elizabeth done it because many of the catholic english wanted another catholic ruler instead of Elizabeth
@@Valcro Well, basically the reason was the same - religion. n other words one way of worshipping Christ is right and another is wrong. So one group persecuted and killed the other group.
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THANK YOU so much as always Stephen. You're always one of my most supportive followers.
Mary suffered irreparable emotional abuse at the hands of her father. Used as a political pawn, but never allowed to marry, even after many promises. Not being allowed to see the mother she needed and loved, for would be enough abuse. If not enough, she suffered physically throughout her short life. I know the victors write history books, and in my opinion this is why Mary is remembered as a monster. But in reality, she was no more ruthless than her Father or siblings. Remember, as much as I love E1, she did have an anointed queen executed.
Henry VIII's Act of Supremacy imposed Anglicanism on an overwhelmingly Roman Catholic England with no significant Protestant movement. Anyone not accepting this Act was charged with treason which was punishable by death. Mary did nothing similar to this. Those condemned to death under her reign were individuals that had mistreated, persecuted and killed Catholics under the reigns of her Protestant father and half-brother.
She was still a monster. Mary Q of Scots hatched a plot to kill E I.
She had an anointed Queen executed,before that Queen would have had her murdered
@@valentinr.dominguez2892 Small children and pregnant women?
@@laurielovett8849 If you are referring to Jane Grey, she was not anointed.
love how petty mary was being. u can clearly see her hatred for her father, brother nd sister
Excerpt from Mary Regina's Last Will and Testament
"My final wishes include...I SURE WISH I WASN'T DYING!" 🤣
Ah, but don't most of us wish that? 😉
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Great video
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
Rowland Taylor was my 14th great grandfather and the third person she burned by queen Mary
william tyndale was my uncle. His niece married Rowland talor
You've said Elizabeth's coffin is on top of Mary's. Years ago, I read both coffins were in a vault separated by some distance.
According to the Westminster Abbey site, Elizabeth's coffin is resting on Mary's.
There’s a lot that Mary was condemned for, that in reality her sister and father were actually worse. I don’t condone it at all, and honestly it seems like it was such a frightening time to be alive back then. Mary is someone that I’ve been rather fascinated by - since I was a young child. I can never help but feel sorry for her too. I think she had potential to be such an amazing monarch had she lived a different life - that wasn’t full of mistreatment and loss. Henry VIII destroyed so many people, so many women, his daughters. Just think what could have been if she hadn’t went through what she had. She could have lived a happy life. That is also a tragedy in itself.
If only Mary Tudor could have overcome her bitterness and religious bigotry then she would not have been remembered as Bloody Mary who murdered people for their religious beliefs as Protestants. Although her mother Catherine of Aragon did give birth to a male child (Henry Duke of Cornwall) he died 52 days after he was born for reasons still unknown. Had Henry Duke of Cornwall lived the course of England’s history would have been changed. The Tudor dynasty sought to maintain itself over any rival claims to the throne, so a male heir was necessary as a female heir was not thought capable of holding on to power. Mary was the only child that survived hence Henry sought after a legitimate male heir until Jane Seymour provided Edward. One could feel sympathy for Mary over her declared illegitimacy, yet her judicial murder of innocent Protestants for their faith is a sin for which she will answer before God on the Day of Judgment. May God have mercy upon her soul.
@11:05 Who agrees with me when I say all these Kings and Queens ask for their debts to be paid, yet their successors completely ignore these requests? I mean, come on; asking for Henry VIII and Edward VI debts to be paid? I guess Edward didn't bother to pay his fathers debts, and neither did Mary bother to pay her father or brothers. Are we surprised Elizabeth and then James ignored these requests?
It is well known that Henry VII was very cheap, fining people ungodly sums of money for the most minor infractions, leaving a substantial inheritance to Henry VIII, who, in his quest for glory in war, started a dumb war with France early in his reign, squandering his entire inheritance. He couldn't participate in wars thereafter due to having no funds. He then had the audacity to dissolve countless churches, monasteries and other religious houses, robbing them of their possessions under the guise of religious reform. Its well known most of those funds went to nobles and others of his court, but the vast majority went right into his own royal coffers. At the end of the day, he's not known for anything much aside from marrying six times, killing two of his wives and essentially dying a morbidly obese tyrant who would kill people after they were no longer useful to him, as was the case with Thomas Wolsey, Thomas Cromwell and Anne Boleyn. Catherine of Aragon was more successful in war than he was, protecting England against the Scottish invasion while Henry ran to a made up war in France, only to see the spurs of the Frenchman horses as they fled the battlefield.
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Good catch with the Lady Jane Grey bit. Good grief all those places? Seriously? OMG Mary would be SCREAMING at the very THOUGHT of being partnered with Elizabeth. Mary probably could have given two flips for Henry VIII or Edward VI. She'd have probably rather have spit a large rat as far as she could across a large room than worry about having prayers said for Henry VIII and Edward VI. Overall I would say Mary was ripped off in death. How much was some manner of spite and how much was simple apathy...who can know?
Yes, it is striking that she mentioned her father and brother so little. I think it shows her true feelings for them, no matter how much she had to dissimulate in life and pretend that she loved them and had forgiven them for all the horrible things they did to her.
@@HistoryCalling I believe you mentioned in the video this time. Mary was mentally abused by her father and brother. Though Edward VI had less time to inflict much damage to her. Still the scarring from both of them was enough, I'm sure, to leave her very cold towards their memories.
I find it so sad that Mary is under the 'bloody' title she is, which gives the impression she was a tyrant and an evil extremist. Theres so many accounts of her being so kind and giving and forgiving, not just to fellow royals but she was extremely kind to her servants and friends. She was loyal and brave in defying her tyrannical father and his self serving courtiers. After all she endured under her fathers rule... The child abuse, religious ridicule, losing her mother and her closest loved ones in such a spiteful way... Fear of being executed all her adult life...for the religious beliefs she was brainwashed into believing... She then went on to be ridiculed because she didnt fall pregnant to her husband like a good little baby making woman... She was evidently unwell.
The burning at the stake part is by todays standards, inexcusable but i May say that it was likely her advisors organising such a thing.
I do feel sorry for her memory, its been tarnished by the men of her time and their selfish self serving agendas.
Really? She burned hundreds of innocent people simply for their beliefs. And you don’t think she was an extremist and a tyrant?
As well as cruel ,Mary was a liar. She promised the 3 elderly sick archbishops, that they would be pardoned if they signed a paper saying they were wrong and would return to the Catholic Church,being afraid and elderly,they signed gainzt their conscience,she then went back on her word, and had them burnt to death. Had them paraded around the church,but shot herself in the foot , Cranmer thrust the hand that signed the papers into the fire first, made a huge impression on the onlookers. She was pure evil who would burn 3 elderly churchmen to death without a care no decent person would even do it to a rat. Suppose she inherited the cruelty. from her Spanish.parents people eho stsdted the inquisition. that continued for the next 300 or 400 years ladt pdtson tkrtured to death by the Mary a mad half sister
Fascinating detail.