TRAGIC DEATH and burial of Prince Arthur Tudor | What killed Prince Arthur | Grave of Prince Arthur

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  • WHAT KILLED Prince Arthur Tudor, son of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York at Ludlow Castle in 1502, where was he buried and what were the immediate effects of his death? This Tudors documentary from History Calling will look at the tragic demise of this 15-year-old Prince of Wales; the boy who was born a symbol of the union of the Houses of York and Lancaster, was named after England’s mythical hero King and who it had been hoped would finally put the Wars of the Roses to bed. Had Arthur lived, he was supposed to inherit the throne and reign with his wife, the Spanish Princess, Catherine of Aragon, to whom he had only been married for less than 5 months, but instead his death upended all his father’s dynastic plans and caused the first big succession upset of a dynasty which would be plagued by them. With Arthur gone his younger brother, Henry, Duke of York, got the throne (and his sister-in-law too) and the princes’ mother died the following year of childbirth complications in a failed effort to replace her lost son.
    We’ll look at what we know of Prince Arthur’s final illness, how that illness affected his wife, Catherine, Princess of Wales, the Prince’s death, his funeral, the multiple places he is interred and at the heart-breaking reaction of the King and Queen upon learning the news. I’ll show you footage and pictures of Ludlow Castle and of the spot in the church in the town where Arthur’s heart is buried.
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  • @HistoryCalling
    @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +35

    What do you think killed Arthur Tudor? Let me know below and remember to check me out on Patreon at www.patreon.com/historycalling and on my Amazon storefront at www.amazon.com/shop/historycalling

    • @feelthejoy
      @feelthejoy ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think it was pneumonia resulting as a complication of the sweating sickness. The fact that he was reported to have produced sputum ranging from green/yellow to pink implies an infection had settled and progressed to edema.

    • @woodenbeast9337
      @woodenbeast9337 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I vote that it was Covid v.00009 or tight pants after eating a feast of Boar,Lamb and huge turkey legs. The Tudors homes design were great, I see Tudor Style many times today. Your stained glass examples are great. That accent is to cool

    • @dianestevens2659
      @dianestevens2659 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typhoid

    • @kithale316
      @kithale316 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think they both had the Sweat and Arthur developed pneumonia too. Also the his father had poor lungs too

    • @pricklypear7516
      @pricklypear7516 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why is no one positing poison as the killer? Perhaps as a targeted attack, or perhaps just random food poisoning?

  • @aidanrogers4438
    @aidanrogers4438 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Prince Arthur is one of my favourite ‘What if?’ scenarios in British history. What if he had survived? He was the one raised from birth to be king, not Henry VIII, and would he still have had the issues as Henry VIII with pregnancies and children? The Tudor line could very well have continued for centuries had Arthur lived, had children of his own and lessened the pressure on ‘Prince Henry’ to provide an heir.

    • @RiseeRee
      @RiseeRee ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Prince Arthur and his uncles are some of the biggest what ifs to me. I always wondered what would have happened if Arthur had inherited and had children with Katherine, but also if his uncles hadn’t been usurped, he wouldn’t have been born. Would there still be Plantagenets on the throne to this day?

    • @bcent5758
      @bcent5758 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      The move away from Catholicism might not have happened at that time. Then the plantation of Protestants into Ireland may not have happened. The current divide in Ireland might not exist.

    • @emmapadgett1181
      @emmapadgett1181 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      One of mine would be if the princes in the tower were rescued and the Tudors never happened.

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Henry VIII was originally earmarked for the church. That’d taken the pressure off, for sure lol

    • @InThisEssayIWill...
      @InThisEssayIWill... ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would love to read some historical fiction about these what-ifs if anyone has any recommendations

  • @Sparkydoo18
    @Sparkydoo18 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I find the death of Prince Arthur so sad, at such a young age and just after his prestigious marriage. You can understand why so many of his court mourned him and were so upset at the funeral. And then that his mother died soon after, trying to produce another son 😔 I found the account of the King and Queen's reactions to Arthur's death the most moving, as a parent myself I can't imagine the anguish x

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yes, the account of their reaction is really heart-wrenching. It just shows that aristocratic parents really did love their children back then, even though some people nowadays seem to think they didn't.

    • @susanmccormick6022
      @susanmccormick6022 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@HistoryCalling Unless of course u have that turncoat Stanley.When Richard 3 warned him against treachery-the family had a record for it-as he was holding his eldest son Lord Strange as a hostage,Stanley's reply was "I have other sons".And Thomas Boleyn & Norfolk threw two of their family members at the head of H8,as it were then washed their hands of them.Some parent/uncle,they were.What hoomans will do for the magic elixir Power!

    • @theblackpearl8632
      @theblackpearl8632 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d caution against believing H7 reaction. It could be very clever propaganda. H7 was a force to be reckoned with. He could very well have been crying. But was it for Arthur or him? The ruination of Camelot? Makes you think.

  • @historylover13
    @historylover13 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    I find it rather interesting that Arthur has a fine resting place, where his brother, Henry VIII, was placed into a "temporary" vault in which he has remained for almost 500 years. Elizabeth I certainly had the resources to finish the stately monument that Henry had designed for himself, but although she gave the project lip service by commissioning a survey at one point in her reign, she ended up doing nothing. I personally think that putting off the construction of Henry's monument was Elizabeth's "revenge" if you will, for executing her mother. Thank you, HC, for the video. Always tremendously interesting and well done.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just her mother but Elizabeth probably was well aware of her dad's horribleness. So to erect a fancy monument to such a scumbag would be unthinkable.

    • @historylover13
      @historylover13 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@LuvBorderCollies I'm sure you're right. It boggles the mind to think that an estimated 57,000 people were executed during Henry's reign, and there were certainly times when Elizabeth was often in fear for her own life. Definitely a BAD DAD!

    • @itsjustme7487
      @itsjustme7487 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Interesting idea.

    • @elliemathews6884
      @elliemathews6884 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      He doesn't deserve a good resting place.

    • @lynnebarnes3840
      @lynnebarnes3840 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry VIII was well hated and broke by the time he died. He was mentally ill and feared by family and the general population. He deserved no more than he got.

  • @Rat_Queen86
    @Rat_Queen86 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    I'm a fan of the Tudors, as I find it a fascinating period in history.
    But I always reflect on how Arthurs death impacted on everything. Had he not died, there would have been no 6 wives, no Mary the 1st, no Elizabeth the 1st and no Edward the 6th. There may have been no issues with Mary Queen of Scots, as there would have been no breaking from Rome under Henry VIII.
    Its just always fun to think about how history would have differed has he survived to me. So many implications.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I know. It's one of those threads I don't think you would dare pull on if you ever went back in time, as it would just unravel everything.

    • @feelthejoy
      @feelthejoy ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ah but how can we know Arthur would not have turned out just as Henry did?

    • @akaLaBrujaRoja
      @akaLaBrujaRoja ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@feelthejoy because Arthur wouldn’t have been able to dump Catherine and rip the country apart based on the claim she’d been married to his brother first.

    • @Lulu-ut9pv
      @Lulu-ut9pv ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There would still be Mary Queen of Scots as her grandmother.... Princess Margaret Tudor married the Scottish king and plans were out in motion when Margaret was 12 with Henry 7 being worried
      But I agree with everything else

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@akaLaBrujaRoja To be more exact, Henry's psychological illness stems from a jousting injury. The consequence of what followed was Elizabeth's fear of marriage, leading to the Jacobean disaster.

  • @catherineroper5087
    @catherineroper5087 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I've visited Katherine's grave, and thought about her insulting funeral and burial, and watched your video on it, but for some reason, its only just occured to me that she should have been buried with Arthur!
    If Henry (and Anne) truly beleived she was the dowager Princess of Wales, they would surely have buried her there.
    I like to think that Arthur and Katherine actually loved each other and were reunited in Heaven, regardless.

    • @veronicajohn2063
      @veronicajohn2063 ปีที่แล้ว

      ,,,,,

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes, there is indeed an argument that she should be with Arthur, but I suppose Henry didn't want the expense and trouble of it all.

    • @christineduffy3113
      @christineduffy3113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@HistoryCallingMakes you wonder Arthur was portrayed as a decent man and we know that Henry in his later life was a tyrant but I think syphilis affected his brain

    • @charlottebruce979
      @charlottebruce979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They were very young. I don't think Arthur was the love of her life, Henry was! Catherine was devastated to be cast aside for another woman by the man she had desperately tried to have children with and who turned a blind eye to his infidelities.

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    Poor Arthur- and poor Katherine- had he lived they might’ve lived a happier life together:(

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I know. I wonder if Catherine ever thought about how differently her life might have turned out if only Arthur had lived.

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@HistoryCallingI believe she did (or at least think so haha). Maybe not in the first years of the marriage to Henry but surely in the later ones. Though she perhaps wouldn’t like for Arthur to have lived after all because she wouldn’t have Mary, whom she dearly loved.

    • @morriganwitch
      @morriganwitch ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Wouldn’t have to put up with Henry VIII xxx

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@morriganwitchthe thing is: she loved him- and, at first, at least, he loved her too- their story is a tragedy in the end- no doubt though, due to Henry

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Good point. I'm sure she wouldn't have done things differently because she would never have wiped Mary from existence.

  • @chrisbanks6659
    @chrisbanks6659 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    From a historical point of view, it's the ultimate paradox / question. What if Arthur had lived? It would have changed EVERYTHING.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I know. The difference a good shot of antibiotics and an IV drip could have made...

    • @chrisbanks6659
      @chrisbanks6659 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HistoryCalling No cure for 'sweating sickness' back then. IMO that's what did for him.Very arbitrary in its victims. Very indiscriminate. Nasty.

    • @susanmccormick6022
      @susanmccormick6022 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Banks:Ironic that the poor lad prob died from the Sweat brought here by his usurper father.Pity it wasn't Henry 8.A lot of folks would've had longer,happier lives.But H7 must've had some redeeming qualities as it seems his marriage to Bess of York was a happy one.His mother was a tartar though.

    • @j0nnyism
      @j0nnyism 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely but even a change in the lowliest peasant could delete half of our population. It’s amazing to think how miraculous our life is

  • @LuvBorderCollies
    @LuvBorderCollies ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I think food poisoning is overlooked in a lot of these old cases. I've had food poisoning several times, once severely almost put me in the hospital. It had to be even more prevalent centuries ago.

    • @pheart2381
      @pheart2381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If he died of poisoning would he have lived long enough to develope boils though? My dad nearly died of chylobactor but no boils.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Food poisoning is definitely a possibility.

    • @martybender3528
      @martybender3528 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @mimitheblonde333
    @mimitheblonde333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I live in Worcester and visted the tomb a few times and its quite ornate its worth a visit for anyone who happens to be in the area. Elizabeth 1 apparently visited it was well to pay respects to her dead uncle , unlike her father/ brothers reign when it was vandalised, so disrespectful 😮 you get to see the final resting place of King John as well.
    Its really fascinating that Henry V11 and Henry V111 neither of their first born sons made it out of their teens , Henry V111 in particular: his legitimate heir died a couple of years into his reign, even Henry's illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy died as a young teenager making his obsession for sons to carry on the male Tudor line all the more ironic

  • @katjack2780
    @katjack2780 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Just a note regarding "sprinkling" vs. "sensing." They are two different actions. Holy water is sprinkled from a metal device that has a top shaped like a globe with holes in it on a metal stem. The other "sensing" refers to incense being burned in a thurible or censer, a lamp-like structure that has holes in it to allow the incense to escape. It has a chain attached. This allows it to be swung in different directions or "sensed."

    • @jegsthewegs
      @jegsthewegs ปีที่แล้ว

      A child's in a nearby village died from athsma attack because of sensing.

    • @rogertaylor7433
      @rogertaylor7433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@jegsthewegs ....Why did the child's parents leave him around it?
      The priest only puts a small amount into it and waves it back and forth as the priest is walking throughout the church. Alot of asthmatics in all of our churches are not affected at all... unless they are standing on top of it as it's setting on the alter. That "story" sounds very made up.

  • @kate_cooper
    @kate_cooper ปีที่แล้ว +139

    The mysterious “sweating sickness”, whatever it was by modern standards, seems to be Arthur’s most likely cause of death. It seems to have been a nasty disease that some people just survived and some didn’t. Arthur doesn’t seem to have been the strongest or most robust person, so that might have had something to do with why he didn’t make it, maybe Katherine just had a better immune system.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes, I do wonder what exactly it was. It seems to have died out at least (no pun intended).

    • @flygirlfly
      @flygirlfly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's been speculated that it might have been a virulent form of hanta virus.

    • @maearcher4721
      @maearcher4721 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      What is interesting to me is that catherine showed early signs of malaria, which plagued her then for years, as early as summer 1501. And yet she survived the Sweat.
      And Arthur was never sickly, that is myth. Yet he didn't make it.

    • @Lulu-ut9pv
      @Lulu-ut9pv ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Its bizarre that even now we technically still don't know what the sickness was....

    • @saradecapua3264
      @saradecapua3264 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm wondering if it wasn't a severe stain of influenza like the Spanish flu.

  • @angelcitygirl
    @angelcitygirl ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Such an excellent video! Arthur is often a footnote and never talked about. Well done. Thank you for taking the time to tell his small story. ❤

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem. Glad you enjoyed it :-)

  • @Dlt814
    @Dlt814 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    THANK YOU for pointing out what the Bible actually says about marrying your brother’s widow. In all the years I’ve read about Henry’s excuse for annulling his marriage I never understood how he got away with it. It literally doesn’t matter if Arthur and Katherine consummated their marriage. They didn’t produce children so it was technically required that Henry marry Arthur’s widow and produce heirs in his brother’s name. But King James came along much later (as a result of the mess Henry left arguably), so people who spoke Latin or Hebrew and had the opportunity/desire to read the Bible were less common (though surely Henry knew both these languages and more).

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, he DID sponsor the KJV translation!

    • @kevinmorgan8534
      @kevinmorgan8534 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JelMain Henry was not required to marry his brother's widow, that's Old Testament law and doesn't apply to Christians

    • @jegsthewegs
      @jegsthewegs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Religion messes most stuff up. The deliberate ambiguity of the FICTIONAL story book was written that way.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jegsthewegs Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Personal faith is not Organised Religion, I've quite a track record as a seer medium handling the interventions of the numinous, and it's hard stuff, not wishy-washy feelings. Things like completing Gandhi's unfinished business, and creating new futures for entire nations, doing what I was created to do. If you want a starter on where they go wrong - from the Boss' viewpoint - Chapter 6 of the Gospel of Matthew's a fair start. Organised Religion is based on the thesis all are equal, which isn't true. We each have a path to tread, I'm not you and you're not me, mine was created 70 years before my parents met.

    • @jegsthewegs
      @jegsthewegs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JelMainfirstly, I have pondered religion since I was first forced to attend a service as a young child. Many years of thought. So I have not read your comment. In 60 years, when travelling and living around the world I have undoubtedly, seen it, heard it or thought it. Religion, the following of and the belief in, causes war and death. Every day for hundreds of years and will continue to do so. Because people cannot allow eachother to "worship" as they wish. You must conform or die in many circumstances. Because every religion insists it's the one and only.... Bad bad bad bad bad.

  • @RevolutionUtena
    @RevolutionUtena ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like sometimes it's hard to connect with historical (especially historical aristocratic) parents because they tend to be written about as somewhat emotionally removed from their children, but the stories about Elizabeth and Henry VII (and also Richard III and Anne of Neville) really radiate all the grief any parent feels when they lose a beloved child.

  • @historybuff7491
    @historybuff7491 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    In listening to your description of Prince Arthur's death and theories thereof, I was suddenly struck by the death of King Edward VI. Both were 15 and several month's old, and both died of a similar illness, possible TB. Uncle and nephew dieing at nearly the same age is one of those wierd facts of history.

    • @maearcher4721
      @maearcher4721 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Genetics could make Tudor males especially vulnerable in that age. Henry FitzRoy also died in his teenage years.

    • @bryony1235
      @bryony1235 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had not considered that before! Interesting…

    • @nukemasterofwic
      @nukemasterofwic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love how you read actual primary sources. Few to none others do, and I believe it grounds your videos truly in the time they took place. I choked up when you recounted the final actions in Worcester. The death of any child is a tragedy, but thinking about everything Arthur represented is immense, and I think still resounds to this day.

  • @SurferJoe1
    @SurferJoe1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Another pleasant and edifying Friday afternoon spent in the elegant scholarship of History Calling. Arthur's memory is well-served and well-honored here. Thanks so much for all you do.

  • @idontwantachannel7542
    @idontwantachannel7542 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    What a wonderful, well-researched and splendidly presented video. I was especially blown away by your images of Arthur's chantry, I never knew how immense it is. I also never had heard about the ground-penetrating radar investigation. Thank you so much!

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The radar was completely new to me too. I just came across that info. whilst researching the video and thought it was fascinating.

    • @idontwantachannel7542
      @idontwantachannel7542 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HistoryCalling Oh, it is. It's seems there's so much we can do now to explore the graves of famous people without actually disturbing them.

    • @Jenifer_G
      @Jenifer_G ปีที่แล้ว

      Ashes to ashes says the Bible, but this expensive funeral with so much adoo, we are all in the same box and such carry on for another human being is ridiculous. Keep it simple and dispense with the exaggerated carry on as if the nobles are above others, only in man made ways.

  • @stellarosehendrix
    @stellarosehendrix ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing as always thank you! ✨

  • @ardiffley-zipkin9539
    @ardiffley-zipkin9539 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well done. The narration and production kept the viewer interested. Thanks.

  • @ShallowApple22
    @ShallowApple22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely AMAZING video.
    You always bring such informative and enjoyable content
    🙏

  • @MaverickSeventySeven
    @MaverickSeventySeven ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A very well informed and interesting narration and, in an "easy listening" voice! Thank you!

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lovely video. I especially love the filming that you did at Ludlow Castle.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. There was a lot of choreographing family members so they didn't walk into my shots :-)

  • @KathleenSummers-fh5zf
    @KathleenSummers-fh5zf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your channel! The subject matter is thoroughly researched and beautifully presented,

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most Excellent !!! You answered a dozen questions I've had for years about this unlucky prince. Thank you !!!

  • @sabinekoch3448
    @sabinekoch3448 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A wonderfully interesting video! So well-spoken and detailed.

  • @patrickskelton3610
    @patrickskelton3610 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Visiting Worcester Cathedral I was surprised to find Prince Arthurs grave near King John's.

  • @keicoohashi2353
    @keicoohashi2353 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I read an interesting article of Ms.Sarah Bryson about the Death of Arthur Tudor.She said the exact cause of Arthur's death remains unknown, several theories have been put forwards. It has been suggested that Arthur may have suffered from some form of cancer or possibly consumption.Another theory that has commonly been suggested, which ties in with Katherine of Aragon's illness at the same time, is the dreaded sweating sickness.Thanks for your video, i always appreciate very much.

  • @glyn829
    @glyn829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent 👍 just subscribed

  • @annfahy2589
    @annfahy2589 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @peterbaxter2913
    @peterbaxter2913 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An excellent production - and splendid photography too! Thank you. 'Latoun' is an alloy of copper and tin, with the possible admixture of other base metals.

  • @BeBe-zq1dt
    @BeBe-zq1dt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I went to Ludlow castle 2 years ago. It was amazing to behold. As is the town of Ludlow to be honest. I'm from Herefordshire so I find all of this fascinating. I was reading the other day about how the city of Hereford was actually part of Wales and was invaded close to where I used to drink with my mates as a teenager. A place called "The Castle Green" 😅 that must have been terrifying to see that I can't even imagine!

  • @ilonabaier6042
    @ilonabaier6042 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Always insightful and thought-provoking. Education as is should be. Thank you, whoever you are.

  • @bethwilliams4903
    @bethwilliams4903 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What was truly sad and tragic was the murder of Edward of Warwick, a prisoner of the Tower for 14 years, since the dust of Bosworth. An orphan, Edward had been knighted by his uncle, you know, the worst man who ever lived, then places in his own household at Sheriff Hutton, probably alongside his Neville cousins, the daughters of John, Marquis Montagu, and likely the bastard John of Pontefract. But the decision was made to bring the 10 yr old down from the north and keep in in such heavy isolation in the Tower for the rest of his life that as his sister, Margaret, said, ‘he knew neither goose from gander’ - usually misconstrued as a mental deficiency of her brother Warwick. Had that been the case, that Henry VII set up and then executed a mentally deficient threat to ‘his’ throne it makes the crime even more appalling - but systematic elimination of his wife’s family was the point. All her cousins, one by one, and second cousins, would be exiled, imprisoned, executed, charged with treason. Margaret, the sister, would fall to Henry VIII’s axe, without being charged, not trial, in her 60’s, after that Henry exterminated her sons, one, another Henry Pole, was incarcerated with his young son in the Tower. Henry Pole was duly executed for … well for being in the bloodline, but his son was never seen again, being murdered in the Tower, probably poisoned or starved to death. But no one does podcasts about him, or Edward of Warwick.

  • @Ragdollcatlover
    @Ragdollcatlover ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Such an interesting video - thank you. I live in Worcester too :) it really makes you realise how different history could have been, had Arthur lived.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're welcome. I'd love to visit it someday and see all the historical areas in person.

  • @peterwilding3515
    @peterwilding3515 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The 4 great candlesticks of latone or latten as its more often spelt would have been made from cast brass with a high tin content giving the candlesticks a silvery colour. I guess the 4 candlesticks would have been floor standing and placed around the coffin in much the same way as the ones where placed around the coffin of our late Queen in Westminster Hall.

  • @M.M.D.
    @M.M.D. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your videos. I'm a huge fan of the medieval and Tudor British monarchies.

  • @anitarichmond8930
    @anitarichmond8930 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To lose a child is like walking through the gates of hell,you are never the same afterwards,or at least that’s how it was for me. How does it feel,oh like having your heart ripped from your chest. For instance, when Carrie Fisher died her mom, Debbie Reynolds, while making her funeral arrangements the next day had a heart attack and died her self. It’s a lost that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy, if that’s a thing?

    • @rachelb2231
      @rachelb2231 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Condolences for your loss. 😪

  • @annwilliams6438
    @annwilliams6438 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

  • @nathanfisher1826
    @nathanfisher1826 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job thanks

  • @beth7935
    @beth7935 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is BRILLIANT, thankyou so much for covering one of my favourite historical people! I do have a bio of Arthur, but it's AMAZING to have a video with the contemporary accounts, & beautiful pictures, & I've saved it for future reference. That story of his parents hearing about his death is heartbreaking, but I'm glad the records of it survived.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Beth. I've been meaning to do this one for ages actually, ever since I went to Ludlow last summer and got all the footage and pictures you see in the video, but it took a while to get around to it.

  • @Lulu-ut9pv
    @Lulu-ut9pv ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel sorry for arther....
    He might have been under so much stress and pressure to be "the perfect king"
    His brith alone represented the ultimate combination between the two families

    • @j0nnyism
      @j0nnyism 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea the Tudor rose represents the union of the two houses and the end of the wars that caused so much upset for so many years.

    • @Lulu-ut9pv
      @Lulu-ut9pv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@j0nnyism yes, it's still recognizable today
      Its easy to be detached from people of history but if you think about it Arthur was the future of the monarch, it wasn't the Frist or was the last did an heir die

  • @jeanarena3222
    @jeanarena3222 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love listening to your voice. Your voice keeps me captivated in the story. I love your explanation of the older languages. I'm from USA, Ohio. I am fascinated by the War of the Roses time period.

  • @chrysparker300
    @chrysparker300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUCH A GENEROUS DONATION CHRYS. I hope you found the story of Arthur's demise and burial interesting.

  • @Metadasius
    @Metadasius ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video. Thanks again for helping with trip sugestions. Everything is finally booked and ready to go for my trip.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent. I hope you have a wonderful time. What things are you planning on seeing?

    • @Metadasius
      @Metadasius ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryCalling i will be touring around belfast for a day or 2, a day trip to the north coast, a day in londonderry/ derry. The rest will be in the rest of ireland. A day in dublin, a day in limerick, a day doing falconry, and a day visiting some friends. If you want, i can pop in for a coffee or tea if i am in your area.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds lovely. I'm not from those places myself, but they're beautiful. Have a great time.

  • @joanholg15
    @joanholg15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You do an excellent job, History Calling, detailing the Tudors lives.

  • @Chuck0856
    @Chuck0856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for that very good explanation of Henry's Church.

  • @marys8626
    @marys8626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've visited Worcester cathedral and paid my respects to Arthur. It's a very peaceful place.

  • @bec9696
    @bec9696 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another wonderful listening/watching experience. You should be reading children's audio bedtime stories - you have a wonderful voice to listen to. I love how you describe Henry VIII's religion. It made me chuckle to myself.

  • @ConnieM777
    @ConnieM777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your voice.

  • @franm.8343
    @franm.8343 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I came across the tomb Of Prince Arthur in Gloucestershire Cathedral by accident, but I was thrilled when I realised whose tomb it belonged to. I am a big fan of the tudors. Thank you for your interesting videos.

    • @daemonartursson7159
      @daemonartursson7159 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Prince Arthur is buried in Worcester Cathedral Not Gloucester. Edward II and Robert Curthose, eldest son of William the Conqueror are buried at Gloucester.

    • @Jenifer_G
      @Jenifer_G ปีที่แล้ว

      Big fans of the Tudors, such inhumane people, both Mary and Elizabeth, very cruel people, Henry the Ape, 8th a homicidal maniac, wrecked thousands of lives and set evil throughout the world.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gloucestershire Cathedral?

  • @carlstenger5893
    @carlstenger5893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video. Thanks so much!

  • @westcoastgirl5639
    @westcoastgirl5639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video!🇨🇦

  • @helenvick522
    @helenvick522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for helping me "keep learning".

  • @leticiagarcia9025
    @leticiagarcia9025 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Because Catherine was sick as well I think it was a contagion such as the sweating sickness. I think Ithere was an outbreak where they were at. It’s so sad that he died so young. A lot of people would’ve lived better lives if he would’ve been King.
    Thank you for another great video. Have a lovely weekend.

    • @maearcher4721
      @maearcher4721 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The outbreak scenario is likely. Catherine's parents were releaved that she was swiftly moved from 'unhealthy place' (Ludlow) fallowing Arthur's death. But Ludlow at the time was fairly comfortable residence. No dump. Imo unhealthy place meant 'place where there was outbreak of disease'. Also Catherine was very sick even weeks after she was brought South, so there must have been reason why she was swiftly moved while still so sick. Outbreak could explain it. People were worried they would catch it and since you could catch Sweating Sickness more than once, perhaps they feared she'd catch it again.

  • @catrymer7968
    @catrymer7968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent As Always.
    ❤️ Your Work

  • @waynevaughan9325
    @waynevaughan9325 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant Vids. Make many more Madam.

  • @kithale316
    @kithale316 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Latoun/laiten means copper/gold. From Arabic for gold. In English called orchicalcum. So gold or copper gold alloy candlesticks.❤

  • @sweethistortea
    @sweethistortea ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think a cool movie or novel idea would be what would have happened had Arthur lived.

    • @DarthRKO-li7qm
      @DarthRKO-li7qm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember reading A alternative history story following what if Arthur had lived.

  • @pablovivant9089
    @pablovivant9089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful footage, particularly from beautiful Ludlow, to accompany all your information here. Was it simply because of the distance and difficulty of transporting a coffin that determined Arthur's burial so far from the other royal tombs in London and Windsor? At least he has his ancestor King John to keep him company here in Worcester...

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder about that too and the distance is the best explanation I can come up with as well.

  • @abrahamoflions
    @abrahamoflions ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @ 5:46 you mention the “other candlesticks,” besides the silver ones. In Spanish, that word is still being used today and it means “brass,” an alloy of copper and zinc. This would make a lot of sense for the other candlesticks to be made from this metal. A R

  • @robb6170
    @robb6170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video, I'm really interested and intrigued by this time period in English history. The laton candlesticks, that is what we know today as brass!

  • @suzzannegabel1636
    @suzzannegabel1636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One theory is that Arthur died of testicular cancer, mainly because of that reference to his 'singular parts'. It tends to strike boys in their teens and kills quickly. The fact that Katherine was also sick seems to

  • @venice3458
    @venice3458 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Similar to the tomb of Ambrose Dudley, Earl of Warwick in the Beauchamp Chantry of St Mary's Church, Warwick, the tomb of Prince Arthur was meant to have been highly coloured as a reflection of his status but sadly this was never carried out.

  • @joniangelsrreal6262
    @joniangelsrreal6262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure…👏👏

  • @bojo88
    @bojo88 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, that was really interesting! I really loved tour footage of Ludlow Castle too! Do we know anything about his personality to know if he would have made a good king or not? How might have things been so vastly different had he not died when he did? Would life today have been better or worse than it turned out with his younger brother in charge of the country with his own interests driving everything? Arthur would have been coached from birth to rule, a strong marriage was planned for him to give him good, political ties however this was not considered for his brother. Without being controversial, it doesn't seem that far removed from our current royal situation really had anything unexpectedly happened to Charles at a young age. It would have defaulted to Andrew who may not have received anywhere near as much coaching for the position as his older brother. I suppose the difference is that it mattered a lot more back then than it does now. Wow history is fascinating for sure!

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I haven't studied his life much as of yet, so can't really comment on his personality.

  • @michellebruce5092
    @michellebruce5092 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, how are you? I'm doing well. Awesome live history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon have a great day see you next video greetings from Canada 😀

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Michelle and welcome back (I remember you from previous videos). Thanks for watching and have a lovely weekend.

  • @GrumpyKitten375
    @GrumpyKitten375 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is absolutely fascinating thank you. I have a suspicion that if both of them got sick at the same time, obviously, a communicable disease of some sort me food poisoning could be an option? Dirty water?

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe just poisoning? I find it interesting that this is never considered, when many would have been pleased to disrupt the Tudor line.

  • @kfisher7735
    @kfisher7735 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has to be one of my top favorite creators when it comes to history. There facts are almost always spot on, and when a mistake is made, she corrects and lets the audience know immediately where what and why in regards. I was wondering is she or anyone else knpws, has the scent for the churches Incense to always be the frankincense smell? I will be researching, I am just super curious on other folks thoughts.

  • @Canalcoholic
    @Canalcoholic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for adding your own text. Even as an Englishman who has worked for 40+ years as a typesetter / proof reader and occasional copy writer, there are some archaic words (or others which your sumptuous accent render slightly ambiguous) which
    I would like to check on.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem. There's still the odd typo I fear, but it's much better than the auto-generated subtitles ever are.

    • @Canalcoholic
      @Canalcoholic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryCalling The auto text can be quite funny at times, but is rarely helpful.

  • @Endorill
    @Endorill ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent .I always wished to hear more of him. We usually hear less about him, than Henry. This was very interesting.

  • @Witchofthewoods.
    @Witchofthewoods. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And history changes forever with Henry VIII stepping in afterwards.

  • @justineharper3346
    @justineharper3346 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seeing all these gorgeous old buildings, specifically Ludlow Castle and the church next to it, makes me want to visit England and the UK so badly. It’s been on my bucket list for years, but I haven’t been able to justify the cost of it yet. Lol. I’ve always just heard that Arthur died of the sweating sickness and nothing more. I love these videos about the bodies and funerals (that sounds weirder than it should 😂). I always learn interesting things that I never thought of.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ludlow Castle (and the church) were a really great day out. I'd happily recommend them. Just try to go on a dry day as the Castle is mostly open air now.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you make it Justine as you'll find
      all of the places mentioned delightful
      All you have to do now is learn how to drive
      on the correct side of the road 😉

  • @Kerosene.Dreams
    @Kerosene.Dreams ปีที่แล้ว

    You are most elaquent.

  • @AK-dw8jo
    @AK-dw8jo ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video like always my love. I wish you could upload longer ones though, these are not long enough to fall asleep to (I always watch them
    First to take in all the information and only then do I put them on to fall asleep to)

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sadly it's misery for me to do anything over 20 minutes as I only have a week to put them together, so this one was already long by my standards. Some go above 30 minutes though.

    • @AK-dw8jo
      @AK-dw8jo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryCalling that is true. Well if you ever need some German proof reading or material that is only accessible in German, I am here to help

  • @lillianmcgrew217
    @lillianmcgrew217 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    History ❤❤

  • @Rigbycat123
    @Rigbycat123 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just demonstrate that the current House of Windsor, which is always described as a ‘dysfunctional’ family are fairly tame compared to the powers (beheadings, assassinations, kidnaps & wars) wielded by previous Monarchs.
    As the presence of a hacking cough wasn’t described I’m not convinced it was TB or influenza/pneumonia. It also seemed to end with Arthur’s death, quite quickly.
    My vote is typhus.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh totally. The Windsors are nothing compared to their ancestors.

  • @TheCleric42
    @TheCleric42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Censed” does not mean “sprinkled with incense” 14:59 . Rather, the smoke from burning incense (held in a brass censer) was passed around the body, with its sweet scent passing upwards to Heaven. And yes, we Catholics still burn incense in precisely the same way before funerals and during Masses on major holidays like Holy Thursday and Easter.

  • @pheart2381
    @pheart2381 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For the people saying food poisoning,all their food and drink was sampled by a Taster before being given to them. He would have got sick too.

    • @therealhellkitty5388
      @therealhellkitty5388 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salmonella, e. Coli, norovirus…. All create food poisoning not that the food was poisoned by an outside agent.

    • @ourgorlsfavoriteorangechic2711
      @ourgorlsfavoriteorangechic2711 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poison added to food would likely be detected , but food borne illness can take hours to weeks to develop depending upon what the pathogen is.

  • @jamesmackey2120
    @jamesmackey2120 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi HC, again thanks for this video on a fascinating topic with the detail that you’ve brought to it.
    Following on from some of last nights comments about how distressed Henry VII and Elizabeth were. I would have thought it would be hard for the parents not to attend the funeral but I recall you’ve mentioned that royalty at that time did not attend these occasions. Could you remind me why this was please?
    I do try to keep learning but it doesn’t always sink in the first time. 😉

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is just off the top of my head so don't quote me on it, but I think it was a matter of decorum. You weren't supposed to imagine the death of the monarch and having them attend funerals would have made that extra challenging. I'm assuming it extended to their wives too. Also, having the top royals there would have been a distraction as everyone craned their necks to catch a glimpse (just like today really).

    • @jamesmackey2120
      @jamesmackey2120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for that. 👍🏻

    • @jamesmackey2120
      @jamesmackey2120 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also, if Arthur hadn’t died when he did, think how strong this alliance between England and Spain could have been.
      It would have changed European politics forever.
      🤔

  • @nancyM1313
    @nancyM1313 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks HC🍃👑🍃I didn't know his Mother passed a year after him in childbirth. Very sad.
    Enjoyed your video, tyvmuch🌺

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it was very sad and then there was his baby sister Catherine too. It was really a terrible year for the Tudors. :-(

  • @ohwiseowl9163
    @ohwiseowl9163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was anyone around Arthur in a position to benefit from his and his wife's death I wonder ...thanx loved this ❤

  • @annmoore6678
    @annmoore6678 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It sounds as if the young couple might both have been stricken by a virus which just happened to affect Arthur more severely. My doctor once told me that severe dehydration from loss of fluid, such as can happen with vomiting and diarrhea, could have potentially life-threatening effects on the kidneys, and then the other organs begin to shut down. The description sounds as if he was violently ill and I bet the efforts at treatment were worse than the disease. Despite the sadness of the event, it was extremely interesting to follow all the details of the funeral arrangements for the unfortunate young prince. I particularly appreciated your footage of Ludlow Castle and the church, the pictures of other points along the route to Worcester, and of the Cathedral itself.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Severe food poisoning dehydrated me so badly my brain was having "mini seizures" from lack of electrolytes. It will also cause your heart to "misfire", and as you mention effect other organs. Should've gone to the doctor sooner. I was 25 and fit but that was many years ago. :)

    • @maearcher4721
      @maearcher4721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was truly Sweating Sickness, the period treatment was more likely to kill him than to cure him. Because sweating sickness's symptoms point to severe dehydratation and overheating of organism even before sweating began and period treatment was to wrap person warmly and not give them any water.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ann. Yes, we'll probably never know the true cause, but I'm sure you're correct that Tudor 'cures' could be worse than the illness itself.

  • @ns-wz1mx
    @ns-wz1mx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    such a sad account :( curious how the world would’ve ended up. excellent video!

  • @vavann6955
    @vavann6955 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a vid on the rulers of malta 🇲🇹

  • @romana34
    @romana34 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have a video on Arthur Plantagenet? I would love to know your thoughts and research on this interesting individual.
    Huge fan of the Plantagenets in general . Eleanor of Aquitaine is one of the most incredible women in history.

  • @tomhirons7475
    @tomhirons7475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great research and information as allways. I was doing some building work at Buckfast Abby and got friendly with the Monk who Kept the bees there, was about 10 yrs ago. He told me, its probably nothing as we often talked history, That prince Arthur was going to change the Patron saint of England back to the original patron saint of England, St Edmond ????, and that he was buried with a Token of Edmond, just a thought and probably of no meaning ?.

    • @susanmccormick6022
      @susanmccormick6022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom Hirons:That's interesting.Thanks for info.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've never heard that, but it's a fascinating idea. Thank you for sharing.

  • @SarahFerguson264
    @SarahFerguson264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Latone is from Midfle English sometimes meaning 'gold' or some such. It has many contractions of it.
    I hope this helps xx

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does. Thank you so much for sharing :-)

  • @stephencarrillo5905
    @stephencarrillo5905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A new experience, HC. Rewatching in my car on a rainy morning. Best way to pass the time. 😁 👏👏

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Enjoy. It's nighttime here, but dry at least (not that that ever lasts long)

    • @chrisbanks6659
      @chrisbanks6659 ปีที่แล้ว

      And cold. Did she mention it was cold too? 😄

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, yes it is indeed. Though here in the UK in February, that's a given. I don't expect to feel anything resembling real heat for at least another 2 months.

    • @chrisbanks6659
      @chrisbanks6659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryCalling I just don't expect to feel anything. Numbness = 🥶

    • @stephencarrillo5905
      @stephencarrillo5905 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆😆Love seeing you both affirm what I've always heard about the Northern Ireland weather. Nevertheless, my family has Irish roots and as I approach my 70's I'm more determined than ever to plant my feet there.

  • @beastieber5028
    @beastieber5028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Avery good evening to history calling

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bea. Hope you're in a Tudor mood :-)

  • @amandajones8841
    @amandajones8841 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would the "four other great candlesticks" be latten? A silver-copper alloy that some renaissance writers said that the Romans valued greatly, but is actually the metal of debased silver coins.

  • @gracep2097
    @gracep2097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video on the 1641 Rebellions?

  • @Bus_Driver_Jay
    @Bus_Driver_Jay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait wait wait when did you get the footage of Ludlow castle?! I’ve been there so many times this year! DID I PASS YOU AGAIN, LIKE LONDON?!
    We have his grave in Worcester, where I live. He’s in a small chamber just off to the side of King John. You should have Patreon mailed me! I could have got you some pictures of the chamber and cathedral! 😀
    It sounds like Henry 7th and his wife did genuinely love each other with how they comforted each other with the loss of Arthur. So many kings separated themselves from all, but he instantly made sure his wife knew so they could be together, and he came later when she needed him.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      Last August. The Time Traveller Patreon bonus for this week is actually a little podcast sharing what I did that day. I was sooo fortunate with the weather. Yes, H7 and EoY do seem to have lucked out with their arranged marriage and actually fallen in love, which is lovely (no pun intended!) :-)

    • @Bus_Driver_Jay
      @Bus_Driver_Jay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryCalling ah phew. I may well have eaten a pillow in rage if I had missed you twice haha.
      I’ll check it out, as I had t had my notification for it!
      It truely is. So many of the matches were loveless and political.

  • @jasperhorace7147
    @jasperhorace7147 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting in the description of Arthur’s elaborate send off, that Katherine is not mentioned. She may have been a daughter of Spain but all her prestige in England came from being Princess of Wales. It’s difficult to imagine what it was like for her, a newly widowed, foreign 15 year old woman, who presumably spoke little English. We know even worse was to come for this very young woman as Henry VII did not treat her well after this. Henry VIII must have been absolutely charmed by her that he married her once her ascended the throne.

    • @jennyhunter-beckinsall6411
      @jennyhunter-beckinsall6411 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think Henry VII was a dreadful man. History would have been very different if Arthur had lived. Very interesting. Thank you

    • @RiseeRee
      @RiseeRee ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was typical of the time that royals would not attend the funerals of their spouses, so it makes sense that she wasn’t mentioned.

    • @edithengel2284
      @edithengel2284 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RiseeRee Yes, and I believe the fact that she had members of her entourage to represent her at the funeral was mentioned.

    • @sherryd3299
      @sherryd3299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back then royal marriages where not determined by "being charmed or loved." Catherine of Aragon was chosen as a wife for Arthur when he was age 3. She was chosen to create an alliance between Spain and England against England's enemy, France. When Arthur died, the alliance between Spain and England against France was still extremely important so she was still the smart choice for England. Henry was lucky that she was so beautiful. Henry VIII and Catherine were very happy together until Catherine got too old to have children and didn't produce a male heir. Only then Henry VIII did everything he could to cast her out and eventually divorce her.

    • @caribbeantigress
      @caribbeantigress ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely Not! Katherine’s prestige was actually and factually above Arthur, since she was At the time, the House of Trastámara was the most prestigious in Europe,due to the rule of the Catholic Monarchs, so the alliance of Catherine and Arthur validated the House of Tudor in the eyes of European royalty and strengthened the Tudor claim to the English throne via Catherine of Aragon's ancestry. Also, she was the great granddaughter of Catherine of Lancaster, which tied her more solid to the English throne than Arthur.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "All pints pulled during 'Happy Hour' will be HALF-PRICED! Come mourn the passing of Prince Arthur with a half-priced beer, a flagon of ale, a goblet of wine! The weather outside may be frightful, but the booze is so delightful! C'mon in out of the rain and the wind so foul! Have a drink and toast the memory of our dear prince. After all, we've got a spare in Henry...And really, how bad could he be?" 🤣

  • @deborahpeery9744
    @deborahpeery9744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turn up your sound. PLEASE!!!

  • @nancytestani1470
    @nancytestani1470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing church, beautiful..

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it really is. I was delighted to find it.

  • @matthewconnolly8628
    @matthewconnolly8628 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is an extremely difficult question, but do you think if Arthur had lived to be king and maybe begotten an heir with Catherine the reformation would have never happened, or would it merely have been delayed?

    • @Rottimail
      @Rottimail 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We'll never know.

  • @diamondk67
    @diamondk67 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although he died of something like sweating sickness I have always wondered if he, Henry Fitzroy, and Edward VI had cystic fibrosis.