I consider it a privilege to have visited the monument to Elizabeth in Westminster Abbey. Your description of the events surrounding her funeral rites bring it very much alive. Thank you, Allan!
I'm endlessly fascinated by James I's involvement in erecting a grand tomb for Elizabeth (and Mary I as a footnote) and being sure to include the "Made possible by ME, James 👋🏼 You're welcome!" on the inscription. And then getting pride of place (and a grander tomb) for his mother. Very powerful, not-too-subtle, imagery.
Yes but you have to remember he gave instructions for Elizabeth to be stacked on top of his dead mother, so he really was not trying to be all that charitable at all much less altruistic in his fake show of affection.
@@manuellubian5709 no Elizabeth was not stacked on top of James’s mother… Elizabeth was stacked on top of her sister Mary I .. you’re confusing the two Mary’s!
What a way to begin my Saturday morning in rainy VAncouver! Coffee in bed and watching one of your wonderfully informative and well-presented expositions!
This is was a very interesting video that you published regarding the public funeral of the last Tudor monarch, Queen Elizabeth I. What I find most curious about the burial decisions for every succeeding Tudor monarch after Henry VIII, is the unanimous decision not to be buried near or alongside the second Tudor king. I think it might be safe to mention that none of Henry VIII’s heirs bore any love loss for their father. Edward VI, the long-awaited, male heir of King Henry’s marital decisions bore little to no filial warmth towards Henry. Mary I, understandably, was not too fond of the man who did almost everything in his kingly power to cast her and her mother, Catherine of Aragon, aside in a cruel manner that he saw fit. While Elizabeth I had a very complicated relationship with Henry VIII. On one hand, she politically utilized her connections to Henry VIII as a means of retaining, at least in the eyes of the general public, her legitimate rights as Queen of England. On the other hand, although we really cannot say what she actually thought of him in regards to the execution of her mother, Anne Boleyn. It might be assumed, based on her actions later on during her reign, that there may have been some level of resentment for the actions that were taken against her mother and then later, Stepmother, Catherine Howard, which may have influenced her decision to never marry. Again you should take my words with a pinch of salt as there is no written records on Queen Elizabeth’s inner most thoughts on the subject of her parents as she had to maintain a political neutrality in light of the fact that the powerful men, who were present at her mother’s trial, were still alive and well at her accession to the English throne.
@@EF5Winds Indeed, I have read about that possibility as well. Whether for personal or political reasons, Queen Elizabeth I was very meticulous and thorough with most of her decisions. In fact, I do recall reading from a biographical account of the Tudor queen that gave further evidence as to why she may have been wary of bearing children, specifically, if the child in question were a boy. After seeing her royal cousin, Mary Queen of Scots, overthrown by the nobility in favor of her son James. Elizabeth came to the conclusion of being better safe and lead by your head rather than follow your heart and lose your throne and crown instead. Overall, I find the late Tudor Queen as being a fascinating topic of discussion. Cheers!
I've never been deeply interested in British history very much (except for Wales), but your videos are turning me into an amateur scholar of it. The instantiation of monarchy peculiar to the UK has shown itself to be incredibly adaptable and resilient. Of course it has its flaws, but all human institutions do. But it's managed to weather every single major upheaval for a thousand years. That's worth deep study.
I can't tell you how much that means that I have inspired you to an interest in these things. The British monarchy is a strand that runs through over thousand years of these islands - a stable point, not unchanging but a fixed point of reference. It is worth deep study as to understand it is to understand what makes the UK tick.
France and maybe Russia aside, part of the reason people perceive England/Britain's monarchy as so enduring is because the British destroyed the other great monarchies of Europe.
@@allanbarton If you were to recommend one good introductory book on British history to an interested amateur, what would it be? Schama's "History?" Something else? What's a good overall review to start with?
Dear Allan, would you please consider doing a video on the history of Ely Cathedral and St. Etheldreda? My sister lives up there and I never got to go inside as the family didn't want to and I am eager for a look at it! I would be so chuffed if you could, no pressure though!
Goodness, that would be quite a few videos it is such a extraordinary and rich place and St Audrey's life is so rich - but yes, I will do one over the Winter months. I would love to return to Ely. I might even try and see if I can get into the Catholic church in Ely that contains some of her relics!
Oh my goodness! Thank you so much, I would love to know more about her. I believe there may be some relics or other such things at Ely Place in London too! Thank you so, so much, I look forward very much to watching! @@allanbarton
Thank you so much for this video, absolutely packed with information and so clearly presented. I found it surprisingly moving as your sympathetic voice brought it alive. I could hear the people on the rooftops sighing and groaning as the procession passed. Elizabeth deserved such a grand send-off after what she had gone through in life.
Hi Allan! I know old St. Paul Cathedral was destroyed in the Great Fire. Based upon the artwork of the cathedral, featured in your video, the old was a far different design from the present one. A most enjoyable episode.
We visited Westminster Abbey in Dec 2019 and stood at her monument for some time before I realised that her sister was buried there also. I wondered what had taken place in the afterlife between them. Another great video Allan, interesting and very informative.
@@EF5Winds Queen Jane Grey should be counted, in my humble opinion, as even though she was a pawn in a game, she was still eligible to take the throne. I also agree that Mary should have had her own effigy and monument. She was and still is a part of royal history.
@@EF5Winds to be perfectly honest with you, I am more than happy to accept them all, for who they are and what they did. It’s all England’s and indeed world history and it can’t be changed. I find it fascinating how they thought and acted compared to modern day society. Poor Queen Jane, manipulated by power hungry men and the one to lose her head over it. I suppose she didn’t have a reign compared to others, but it would be a nice tribute. Queen Victoria’s eldest daughters husband was only on the throne for 90 days, not much he could shave done in that time but we should call that a reign too. I have enjoyed our chat about this. I would love to visit the UK again and wander through the historic places and see where events happened. Couldn’t spend a lot of time in Westminster Abbey so that would be on the list to see again. And Hampton Court and Hever Castle, the list goes on. I was there in winter and a lot of places are closed so would have to go in summer. Thanks again EF5Winds. Can I ask how you chose that name? Are you into tornado chasing?
@@EF5Winds I follow Pecos Hank a TH-camr and one of the best tornado chasers out there I feel, he is a big animal lover and a great musician. He knows a lot about weather and storms especially tornadic storm events. I live in Western Australia in the north west and we are in an area very susceptible to cyclones in the summer, and I must admit I do love a good storm. We had quite a bad one in Feb 2020, we went through the eye and then got another walloping on the other side. I would like to see a tornado, and there are tours you can join in the US (pretty expensive) and I agree that they are very beautiful and powerful in their own right but the destruction is terrible and deadly. Who knows, maybe one day I will get to see that too. I have a few things on my bucket list and will keep working away at ticking them off.
@@EF5Winds tornado tours do sound a bit hit or miss, they must have some sort of disclaimer written into the tour information though…..the old small print! I think also that the tours only run certain times of the year but that with each weather system that cranks up they can tell whether there is a chance of tornadoes. Here in Australia where they aren’t as prevalent, they sometimes issue a tornado warning when cyclones are about to hit the coast. Hey, have you been to Edinburgh? That place is awesome, I went to Hogmanay in 2019 and I think I was possibly the oldest person there. But right below the castle. The Royal Mile and Holyrood Palace are a must see. Made me think about Mary Queen of Scots and her sad demise. Anyway, hope you’re well.
Hello again Allan, yet another excellent video. I have always had a great interest in royalty and the burials of the same. I have always wondered about the Royal family in St Georges chapel Windsor. I wonder if they are below or above ground under the tombs. I truly appreciate the work you put in on these video's, thank you once again.
Wonderful presentation. I have visited Westminster Abbey and this brought back memories. I also remembered how I did a report in 6th grade about Elizabeth I. Not sure how that came to be living in Boulder Colorado, lol. But I did a thorough report including a stick puppet in a beautiful light blue gown. Thanks for the reminder! I enjoy your channel and magazine!
I know British monarchs do not generally have epithets but if Alfred deserves “The Great” so does Elizabeth. I would love Elizabeth I and 11 to spend the day together and be there just to listen.
I wept when Her Majesty descended into the floor. I am a breakaway cousin across the sea. These things should not move me, but they did. God Bless our cousins ( indeed founders) and traditions.
I, too, am a “breakaway cousin” and all my life have had a special affinity for the UK. We visited for the first time this past june and got to see the Trooping of the Colors & Windsor Castle (tho not inside because the King was in residence). We didn’t have nearly enough time there so hoping to return for a much more thorough visit. Oh, and I got up at 4 a.m. the day of Queen’s funeral and watched every minute of it!
Thank you Allan as always for your fascinating content. I was disappointed to learn that the wooden head of Elizabeth I in the Tower was carved during the Georgian era. 😩
Your documentaries are always excellent! I love Tudor history. I appreciate your story and narration. I think it would be difficult…but I’d like to see a documentary on the effects Henry VIII had on his daughters mental health. Even given how women were viewed during that time period, they both were human and what their father did to their mothers had to torment them. I don’t have the historical perspective re: this, but as a psychotherapist I often think about how difficult it must have been to be a daughter of Henry VIII.
Very informative video, thank you very much Allen. You may have touched on this, and I may have missed it, but was the reason that Elizabeth's coffin was placed on the top of Mary's coffin, was because the burial was too small for the two coffins to be placed on the floor side by side? Thank you very much again.
i was curious about the remade wax figure of elizabeth I is there anything original such as the garment or jewelery that is from the actual time? I do know the corset on the original was from the time but is there anything else that was used to dress the wax version or is is all a complete remaking?
@@allanbarton that is sad to think at one time the priginal effigy had a garment that was the robes of state worn by elizabeth i now they're lost in time after who ever took the original apart. Fortunately though we have that alter cloth that has been concluded to have been a petticoat of the queen's
I find it interesting that modern State funerals, based on the military funeral, have come full circle from the origins of the great heraldic funerals. Prior to the fourteenth century, a man of note was buried with relative simplicity...he might have an impressive monument erected to receive his body, but the funeral itself was comparatively low-key, with only his family, faithful retainers and alms-persons attending a ceremony that was almost entirely conducted by the Church. As expressions of chivalry became more elaborate, the funerals of knights and lords took on the form of the warrior's farewell: parading the knight's achievements, his arms and helm, the led horse and so on, emphasizing the deceased's martial connections (whether actual or presumed/potential). By the fifteenth century, those who were neither knights nor lords adopted the heraldic funeral when they could afford it, just as they'd adopted heraldic arms even if they'd never been near a battle or tournament. This elaboration increased after the Reformation, with impressive heraldic displays making up for the severe reduction of the Church's chapelle ardent and its blazing candles. The bother and expense of the full heraldic funeral created a reaction in favor of the "private" funeral, which by the nineteenth century meant one planned and executed by undertakers. Queen Victoria's military funeral, based on those done for high-ranking officers and princes of the blood royal who'd served, became the template for the state funerals of the twentieth century, both in the UK and the United States.
Made me cry. Very touching. May they all rest in peace. Question : During both World Wars - were any kind of preparations made to where the coffins lie? You know - to protect them so they would not be destroyed or vandalized?
They didn’t sadly, relics in Medieval English altars were placed, if at all, in the superstructure of the altar. Many side altars were consecrated without relics.
Question: How did they manage to keep Elizabeth's body relatively fresh enough to be kept and left on display for up to 4 weeks question mark I know that from the 19th century going back there was always this custom of putting charcoal or ash, as a liner, before you lay a body. However I'm also curious to know whether or not they were in the habit of also sprinkling the ash directly on top of her as well. I would assume that with the passage of time and the number of weeks, laying in state, that she should have been looking pretty cruddy if she was left on view this whole time. On the other hand even if she wasn't left to be on view but she was sitting in a closed simple wooden casket it would seem to me that after 4 or 5 weeks the smell should have been horrendous 😮😮 !!! Another question although it has been widely known throughout history that Elizabeth the first was known for her propensity towards imagery and symbols connected with, 4, surrounding her...... I'm curious to know whether or not there's any information to support whether or not the abundance of imagery depict in her funeral procession and later on in the Abbey whether or not the decision to display certain items and images were part of her elaborate funeral instructions, or do you think the decision to display all that stuff was left up to her primary herald?
I have a video all about that process, look up my video on her heart. She was eviscerated, wrapped in waxed cloth, soldered into less and then coffined. The corpse was well sealed.
@@manuellubian5709 yes - the instructions for burying a sovereign were laid down formally for Edward IV’s funeral. All the funerals through to that of James I followed it to the letter.
You may have answered this earlier but are both Prince Philip and her Majesty Queen Elizabeth also buried in lead coffins? Surrounding them as you show Elizabeth I might be. Is it still a standard for all Royal family members to be surrounded in led coffins? Not just the British Royal family but all European Royal families. What about those buried on the frogmore grounds?
Elizabeth I would never have wanted to be buried with her sister. James I would’ve known this. I wonder if he did it intentionally as payback for Elizabeth’s treatment of his mother.
Why it was not considered to attend the funeral of his predecessor? I have also this read at the Frence Monarchy. Since when the Sovereign attended the funeral of the predecessor?
Until the late 19th century it was taboo to associate the "gloriously reigning" Sovereign with death in any manner, including the act of attending a funeral...William IV being a notable exception, serving as Chief Mourner to his late brother George IV. Ironically Queen Victoria permanently broke this tradition in the later years of her reign.
Very tasteless of James to meddle with the remains after death; re-arranging the coffins. Presumably he didn’t subscribe to the notion of de mortuis nil nisi bonum
@@Patrick3183 that changed in the middle of the 15th century when sovereigns were buried in anthropomorphic lead shells. It changed again in the 17th century when that practice was abandoned. Elizabeth’s lead coffin was soldered and formed around her wax cloth wrapped corpse.
the sculpture on Elizabeth's tomb is superb - full of character
It is, it is a very honest portrait of her too, not that idealised.
I consider it a privilege to have visited the monument to Elizabeth in Westminster Abbey. Your description of the events surrounding her funeral rites bring it very much alive. Thank you, Allan!
I'm endlessly fascinated by James I's involvement in erecting a grand tomb for Elizabeth (and Mary I as a footnote) and being sure to include the "Made possible by ME, James 👋🏼 You're welcome!" on the inscription. And then getting pride of place (and a grander tomb) for his mother.
Very powerful, not-too-subtle, imagery.
Yes but you have to remember he gave instructions for Elizabeth to be stacked on top of his dead mother, so he really was not trying to be all that charitable at all much less altruistic in his fake show of affection.
@@manuellubian5709 no Elizabeth was not stacked on top of James’s mother… Elizabeth was stacked on top of her sister Mary I .. you’re confusing the two Mary’s!
How beautifully you speak, so clear and well paced, I thoroughly enjoy your very interesting videos.
That is so very kind of you to say so. Thank you.
Oh yeah, settling down and enjoying an history lesson from my favourite tutor!
Thank you, that's lovely of you to say so.
What a way to begin my Saturday morning in rainy VAncouver! Coffee in bed and watching one of your wonderfully informative and well-presented expositions!
Thank you - I hope you have a lovely day.
Thank you again, kind sir, for sharing this informational story. Fascinating as always!!
My pleasure.
Thanks…wonderful thing history!
Thank you very much - I am glad you enjoyed it.
This is was a very interesting video that you published regarding the public funeral of the last Tudor monarch, Queen Elizabeth I. What I find most curious about the burial decisions for every succeeding Tudor monarch after Henry VIII, is the unanimous decision not to be buried near or alongside the second Tudor king. I think it might be safe to mention that none of Henry VIII’s heirs bore any love loss for their father. Edward VI, the long-awaited, male heir of King Henry’s marital decisions bore little to no filial warmth towards Henry. Mary I, understandably, was not too fond of the man who did almost everything in his kingly power to cast her and her mother, Catherine of Aragon, aside in a cruel manner that he saw fit. While Elizabeth I had a very complicated relationship with Henry VIII. On one hand, she politically utilized her connections to Henry VIII as a means of retaining, at least in the eyes of the general public, her legitimate rights as Queen of England. On the other hand, although we really cannot say what she actually thought of him in regards to the execution of her mother, Anne Boleyn. It might be assumed, based on her actions later on during her reign, that there may have been some level of resentment for the actions that were taken against her mother and then later, Stepmother, Catherine Howard, which may have influenced her decision to never marry. Again you should take my words with a pinch of salt as there is no written records on Queen Elizabeth’s inner most thoughts on the subject of her parents as she had to maintain a political neutrality in light of the fact that the powerful men, who were present at her mother’s trial, were still alive and well at her accession to the English throne.
@@EF5Winds Indeed, I have read about that possibility as well. Whether for personal or political reasons, Queen Elizabeth I was very meticulous and thorough with most of her decisions. In fact, I do recall reading from a biographical account of the Tudor queen that gave further evidence as to why she may have been wary of bearing children, specifically, if the child in question were a boy. After seeing her
royal cousin, Mary Queen of Scots, overthrown by the nobility in favor of her son James. Elizabeth came to the conclusion of being better
safe and lead by your head rather than follow your heart and lose your throne and crown instead. Overall, I find the late Tudor Queen as being a fascinating topic of discussion. Cheers!
I've never been deeply interested in British history very much (except for Wales), but your videos are turning me into an amateur scholar of it. The instantiation of monarchy peculiar to the UK has shown itself to be incredibly adaptable and resilient. Of course it has its flaws, but all human institutions do. But it's managed to weather every single major upheaval for a thousand years. That's worth deep study.
I can't tell you how much that means that I have inspired you to an interest in these things. The British monarchy is a strand that runs through over thousand years of these islands - a stable point, not unchanging but a fixed point of reference. It is worth deep study as to understand it is to understand what makes the UK tick.
France and maybe Russia aside, part of the reason people perceive England/Britain's monarchy as so enduring is because the British destroyed the other great monarchies of Europe.
@@allanbarton If you were to recommend one good introductory book on British history to an interested amateur, what would it be? Schama's "History?" Something else? What's a good overall review to start with?
Thanks!i have been to Westminster Abbey and was awestruck at Elizabeth 1 tomb , very moving moment for me. Enjoyed this video immensely ❤👑
Thank you very much Christine. It is an extraordinary monument in a place that has no shortage of them.
Dear Allan, would you please consider doing a video on the history of Ely Cathedral and St. Etheldreda? My sister lives up there and I never got to go inside as the family didn't want to and I am eager for a look at it! I would be so chuffed if you could, no pressure though!
Goodness, that would be quite a few videos it is such a extraordinary and rich place and St Audrey's life is so rich - but yes, I will do one over the Winter months. I would love to return to Ely. I might even try and see if I can get into the Catholic church in Ely that contains some of her relics!
Oh my goodness! Thank you so much, I would love to know more about her. I believe there may be some relics or other such things at Ely Place in London too! Thank you so, so much, I look forward very much to watching! @@allanbarton
Really good video and history lesson
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you so much for this video, absolutely packed with information and so clearly presented. I found it surprisingly moving as your sympathetic voice brought it alive. I could hear the people on the rooftops sighing and groaning as the procession passed. Elizabeth deserved such a grand send-off after what she had gone through in life.
❤Another classic. I never tire of the way you bring bygone days and customs to life
It's touching and very telling that Elizabeth included her mother's motto and heraldry.
Absolutely fascinating. Thanks Allan.
tyvm for another history upload
interesting take
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Glad you enjoyed it
Another VERY INTERESTING and educational video, Allan!! Your videos NEVER disappoint!! ❤👍👏💞
Hi Allan! I know old St. Paul Cathedral was destroyed in the Great Fire. Based upon the artwork of the cathedral, featured in your video, the old was a far different design from the present one. A most enjoyable episode.
I have been fortunate enough to see Elizabeth’s tomb. Quite splendid! Thank you for explaining all that came before her final resting place.
Fantastic Allan!
We visited Westminster Abbey in Dec 2019 and stood at her monument for some time before I realised that her sister was buried there also. I wondered what had taken place in the afterlife between them. Another great video Allan, interesting and very informative.
@@EF5Winds Queen Jane Grey should be counted, in my humble opinion, as even though she was a pawn in a game, she was still eligible to take the throne. I also agree that Mary should have had her own effigy and monument. She was and still is a part of royal history.
@@EF5Winds to be perfectly honest with you, I am more than happy to accept them all, for who they are and what they did. It’s all England’s and indeed world history and it can’t be changed. I find it fascinating how they thought and acted compared to modern day society. Poor Queen Jane, manipulated by power hungry men and the one to lose her head over it. I suppose she didn’t have a reign compared to others, but it would be a nice tribute. Queen Victoria’s eldest daughters husband was only on the throne for 90 days, not much he could shave done in that time but we should call that a reign too.
I have enjoyed our chat about this. I would love to visit the UK again and wander through the historic places and see where events happened. Couldn’t spend a lot of time in Westminster Abbey so that would be on the list to see again. And Hampton Court and Hever Castle, the list goes on. I was there in winter and a lot of places are closed so would have to go in summer. Thanks again EF5Winds. Can I ask how you chose that name? Are you into tornado chasing?
@@EF5Winds I follow Pecos Hank a TH-camr and one of the best tornado chasers out there I feel, he is a big animal lover and a great musician. He knows a lot about weather and storms especially tornadic storm events. I live in Western Australia in the north west and we are in an area very susceptible to cyclones in the summer, and I must admit I do love a good storm. We had quite a bad one in Feb 2020, we went through the eye and then got another walloping on the other side. I would like to see a tornado, and there are tours you can join in the US (pretty expensive) and I agree that they are very beautiful and powerful in their own right but the destruction is terrible and deadly. Who knows, maybe one day I will get to see that too. I have a few things on my bucket list and will keep working away at ticking them off.
@@EF5Winds tornado tours do sound a bit hit or miss, they must have some sort of disclaimer written into the tour information though…..the old small print! I think also that the tours only run certain times of the year but that with each weather system that cranks up they can tell whether there is a chance of tornadoes. Here in Australia where they aren’t as prevalent, they sometimes issue a tornado warning when cyclones are about to hit the coast. Hey, have you been to Edinburgh? That place is awesome, I went to Hogmanay in 2019 and I think I was possibly the oldest person there. But right below the castle. The Royal Mile and Holyrood Palace are a must see. Made me think about Mary Queen of Scots and her sad demise. Anyway, hope you’re well.
Hello again Allan, yet another excellent video. I have always had a great interest in royalty and the burials of the same. I have always wondered about the Royal family in St Georges chapel Windsor. I wonder if they are below or above ground under the tombs. I truly appreciate the work you put in on these video's, thank you once again.
Wonderful presentation. I have visited Westminster Abbey and this brought back memories. I also remembered how I did a report in 6th grade about Elizabeth I. Not sure how that came to be living in Boulder Colorado, lol. But I did a thorough report including a stick puppet in a beautiful light blue gown. Thanks for the reminder! I enjoy your channel and magazine!
Thank you for this thorough job. Well done!
My most recent visit to Henry VII's chapel had me marveling at the opulent tombs of Elizabeth and her cousin Mary of Scots. Thank you, Allan.
Absolutely fantastic video. So informative and well presented. Visited the Abbey many times but will be going back with fresh eyes. Thankyou
Thank you AGAIN. ❤❤❤
Thank you Jill.
Many thanks for this fascinating video
My pleasure Chris, I enjoyed making this one.
Great video, Allan
I know British monarchs do not generally have epithets but if Alfred deserves “The Great” so does Elizabeth. I would love Elizabeth I and 11 to spend the day together and be there just to listen.
Excellent video. Thank you.
I wept when Her Majesty descended into the floor. I am a breakaway cousin across the sea. These things should not move me, but they did. God Bless our cousins ( indeed founders) and traditions.
I, too, am a “breakaway cousin” and all my life have had a special affinity for the UK. We visited for the first time this past june and got to see the Trooping of the Colors & Windsor Castle (tho not inside because the King was in residence). We didn’t have nearly enough time there so hoping to return for a much more thorough visit. Oh, and I got up at 4 a.m. the day of Queen’s funeral and watched every minute of it!
R.I.P Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the 1st.
GOD BLESS HER.
⛪⚰️✝️➕💐👑⚔️🛡️😔🙏🌹🌷
What is the image used at 3:46 of?
Excellent, thanks.
Thank you Allan as always for your fascinating content. I was disappointed to learn that the wooden head of Elizabeth I in the Tower was carved during the Georgian era. 😩
Your documentaries are always excellent! I love Tudor history. I appreciate your story and narration. I think it would be difficult…but I’d like to see a documentary on the effects Henry VIII had on his daughters mental health. Even given how women were viewed during that time period, they both were human and what their father did to their mothers had to torment them. I don’t have the historical perspective re: this, but as a psychotherapist I often think about how difficult it must have been to be a daughter of Henry VIII.
Very informative video, thank you very much Allen. You may have touched on this, and I may have missed it, but was the reason that Elizabeth's coffin was placed on the top of Mary's coffin, was because the burial was too small for the two coffins to be placed on the floor side by side? Thank you very much again.
i was curious about the remade wax figure of elizabeth I is there anything original such as the garment or jewelery that is from the actual time? I do know the corset on the original was from the time but is there anything else that was used to dress the wax version or is is all a complete remaking?
Everything is a remake except the inner core and the corset - sad really.
@@allanbarton that is sad to think at one time the priginal effigy had a garment that was the robes of state worn by elizabeth i now they're lost in time after who ever took the original apart. Fortunately though we have that alter cloth that has been concluded to have been a petticoat of the queen's
I find it interesting that modern State funerals, based on the military funeral, have come full circle from the origins of the great heraldic funerals.
Prior to the fourteenth century, a man of note was buried with relative simplicity...he might have an impressive monument erected to receive his body, but the funeral itself was comparatively low-key, with only his family, faithful retainers and alms-persons attending a ceremony that was almost entirely conducted by the Church.
As expressions of chivalry became more elaborate, the funerals of knights and lords took on the form of the warrior's farewell: parading the knight's achievements, his arms and helm, the led horse and so on, emphasizing the deceased's martial connections (whether actual or presumed/potential). By the fifteenth century, those who were neither knights nor lords adopted the heraldic funeral when they could afford it, just as they'd adopted heraldic arms even if they'd never been near a battle or tournament. This elaboration increased after the Reformation, with impressive heraldic displays making up for the severe reduction of the Church's chapelle ardent and its blazing candles.
The bother and expense of the full heraldic funeral created a reaction in favor of the "private" funeral, which by the nineteenth century meant one planned and executed by undertakers. Queen Victoria's military funeral, based on those done for high-ranking officers and princes of the blood royal who'd served, became the template for the state funerals of the twentieth century, both in the UK and the United States.
Made me cry. Very touching. May they all rest in peace. Question : During both World Wars - were any kind of preparations made to where the coffins lie? You know - to protect them so they would not be destroyed or vandalized?
20:21 there are holes drilled right under the ruffle. Why do you think they did that?
Perhaps she wouldn't have wanted embalmed for fear that anyone doing it mightve been able to tell that she'd given birth (as was widely suspected).
Why do you suppose they didn’t follow her wishes for embalming? I’ve always wondered.
Taking notes. One day I will have to step into the next room and will be wanting a nice send off.
Ha, ha - who needs a simple funeral?
I think queen Mary I would have been happy having the discarded altar stones placed in her tomb considering they had the relics of the Saints in them!
They didn’t sadly, relics in Medieval English altars were placed, if at all, in the superstructure of the altar. Many side altars were consecrated without relics.
I was not aware of that! Did they then have relics on the superstructure in the style of a monstrance?
Often they did - but many simply had no relics at all @@MrMarcvus
Did Bard show up for the funeral?
Question: How did they manage to keep Elizabeth's body relatively fresh enough to be kept and left on display for up to 4 weeks question mark I know that from the 19th century going back there was always this custom of putting charcoal or ash, as a liner, before you lay a body. However I'm also curious to know whether or not they were in the habit of also sprinkling the ash directly on top of her as well. I would assume that with the passage of time and the number of weeks, laying in state, that she should have been looking pretty cruddy if she was left on view this whole time. On the other hand even if she wasn't left to be on view but she was sitting in a closed simple wooden casket it would seem to me that after 4 or 5 weeks the smell should have been horrendous 😮😮 !!!
Another question although it has been widely known throughout history that Elizabeth the first was known for her propensity towards imagery and symbols connected with, 4, surrounding her...... I'm curious to know whether or not there's any information to support whether or not the abundance of imagery depict in her funeral procession and later on in the Abbey whether or not the decision to display certain items and images were part of her elaborate funeral instructions, or do you think the decision to display all that stuff was left up to her primary herald?
I have a video all about that process, look up my video on her heart. She was eviscerated, wrapped in waxed cloth, soldered into less and then coffined. The corpse was well sealed.
@@allanbarton what about the funeral with all the imagery and symbols? Her idea or her heralds, idea?
@@manuellubian5709 her funeral was absolutely standard practice. The herald’s ensured it followed previous precedent codified in the 15th century.
@@allanbarton ....and that previous precedent being her father?? Or, perhaps her grandparents?
@@manuellubian5709 yes - the instructions for burying a sovereign were laid down formally for Edward IV’s funeral. All the funerals through to that of James I followed it to the letter.
Queen Alexandra forbade anyone from addressing her as "Majesty" until after Queen Victoria's funeral.
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You may have answered this earlier but are both Prince Philip and her Majesty Queen Elizabeth also buried in lead coffins? Surrounding them as you show Elizabeth I might be. Is it still a standard for all Royal family members to be surrounded in led coffins? Not just the British Royal family but all European Royal families. What about those buried on the frogmore grounds?
Look at how heavy QE2s coffin was. I’d say it was lead lined
It was lead lined, though not shaped to the body like this - I have a video all about that on the channel. th-cam.com/video/jajHTEDWMX8/w-d-xo.html
I like the amused little chuckle at how Henry VIII "aquired" the palace from Cardinal Woolsey :)
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I do hope the two sisters, Mary and Elizabeth, get along better in death than they did in life. Just sayin'.
Elizabeth I would never have wanted to be buried with her sister. James I would’ve known this. I wonder if he did it intentionally as payback for Elizabeth’s treatment of his mother.
Not out of spite but self aggrandisement. He saw himself as the true successor of the Tudor regime.
Why it was not considered to attend the funeral of his predecessor? I have also this read at the Frence Monarchy. Since when the Sovereign attended the funeral of the predecessor?
Until the late 19th century it was taboo to associate the "gloriously reigning" Sovereign with death in any manner, including the act of attending a funeral...William IV being a notable exception, serving as Chief Mourner to his late brother George IV.
Ironically Queen Victoria permanently broke this tradition in the later years of her reign.
Very tasteless of James to meddle with the remains after death; re-arranging the coffins. Presumably he didn’t subscribe to the notion of de mortuis nil nisi bonum
I wonder what kind of crown and jewels she was buried wearing
None at all, she will have been buried entirely naked in layers of waxed cloth, then a lead shell soldered around this wrapped form.
@@allanbartonwhat? No other English monarch whose grave was opened was not wearing clothes.
@@Patrick3183 that changed in the middle of the 15th century when sovereigns were buried in anthropomorphic lead shells. It changed again in the 17th century when that practice was abandoned. Elizabeth’s lead coffin was soldered and formed around her wax cloth wrapped corpse.
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