Cosmic garou absolutely destroys Gohan. By his logic Garou is also universal because blast wants to teleport him to a completely different dimension. Blast Said that this fight was a battle against the supremacy of the cosmos. He literally has the power of the universe inside of him. Never less feats like standing in the origin of a black hole during a gamma ray burst. And blowing hyperspace gates that connect different dimensions. Gohan isn’t even scratching garou and garou won’t even need to use copy.
😂😂😂😂 bro idk why but this made me laugh Soo hard, I clicked on the vid and your comment popped up under the vid haven't watched the vid yet but facts bro straight facts
What's worst about that Mecha Frieza powercliff is that his supernova's stated 10x above Namek Frieza's, so Young Gohan>Perfect Cell>>>the Androids (legit no sells their attacks while weaker)>>>Trunks who one shots Frieza. And Saiyaman Gohan shouldnt be that much weaker than his younger self since he presses Dabura who's ≈ to if not > Cell, also when he regains that anger boost he had while younger i'm pretty sure he becomes so powerful Dabura is legit shitting bricks and doubts he can fight him.
Hey guys, notice that panel from Daizenshuu 2 you showed where it said SSJ2 Gohan’s first appearance was vs Kibito? Notice how, prior to him transforming in front of Kibito, he went SSJ while Videl was being tortured….and only had 1 bang. Some like to say this is SSJ2 Gohan just not full power, but the panel you showed flat out stated Gohan in front of Kibito was SSJ2’s first appearance for older Gohan. That means SSJ1 Gohan by then only has 1 bang, This is kinda definitive proof that in the tournament and onward, SSJ1 Gohan only has 1 bang, not 2. Which now throws into question what form he was vs Dabura and Fat Buu.
What are you talking about it’s stated dabura is stronger than cell even when he’s not going all out and super perfect cell being overwhelmed by less than half power Gohan means he doesn’t need to scale to what his teens full power was and that’s not to mention that there’s guides like El manga Legendario that say Gohan was stronger than dabura I with the point being at the very least he’s fighting and above cell level opponent
This is for the anime lol, this does not happen in the manga at all tho Goku says dabura is more impressive than he gives him credit for with his hax, Gohan in terms of stats was outright superior. Gohan as well + even Goku suggested if he were to tap into the same power as back then he’d beat Dabura, implying Teen Gohan > Dabura. Super perfect cell when emerging is stated to be the strongest at the time even with Gohan there. Gohan as well is being amped by Goku😭, and he still needed Vegetas help. If Gohan with less than half his power was really stronger than Cell, logically Grade 4 Gohan getting mad should slam him, but he doesn’t. He doesn’t even scale to Perfect Cell at his peak let alone SPC
@@Tylearned no it is more consistent for the anime. That Gohan is stronger, and even in the show and guides such a daizenshuu, he is noted to be at less than half power. Goku was not amping him there’s like one guide that implies that and it’s an outlier among a plethora of other statements and yes, gohan could have slapped him as a super Saiyan after awakening , that would be 50% of super Saiyan twos power, we never once see him go out in the cell games and for the anime not only is otherworld tournament Canon with Deborah clashing with their base states in which he scales above, but they do imply, verbatim in any continuity that he is stronger than they thought he was, which makes sense because they based him being cell level on him literally spitting on someone and that is not to mention that since you’re using the anime, Goku is stated to be equal to cell and super perfect cell is 2 times amp which, which still makes him weaker than Gohan, even if you downplayed him
@@maku3857 there are multiple guides implying he’s getting amped😭 and this Gohan is also raged amp, it’s not LITERALLY half his power or else Gohan in grade 4 could’ve jus won against PC
@@Tylearned bro Toriyama said himself that it's not your battle power that influences your ki, but will(?) and courage something else. Gohan during the beam clash was putting himself down which made him seem weaker than he should've been. When vegeta created that opening it gave him the courage to keep pushing and stay in the battle. Even Goku the whole time kept telling gohan he could win but he just wouldn't listen.
Could be a really solid fight depending on how you scale the characters though this is really reliant on Saiyaman being from the Buu Saga up to Resurrection of F. Post-RoF Gohan starts training and in a sparing session with his father is shown to be somewhat relative to Goku base to base. This is important since Goku at that time surpassed his Battle of Gods self with his clashes with Beerus threatening to destroy the entirety of Universe 7’s macrocosm. It’s possible Garou could hunt Great Saiyaman up until a certain point but after that gets stomped and emoted on
@@SosukeTYBW This assumes Garou can catch Gohan in a hyperspace gate. If Garou can then yeah, Gohan gets BFRed and loses regardless of which version you pick since he can’t survive in space but that’s a *BIG* if. Gohan in the anime scales above a Goku who can travel universal size distances relatively quickly putting DBZ era speeds far above anything witnessed in OPM
@123GOHANZ far above? Tf make you figure that? Before God power garou was already MFTL+ now you stack on power of God that just propel all his stats on top of learning any ability he sees once and can hyper dimension travel
@@SosukeTYBW Hyperspace travel is teleportation not raw speed and has been proven to be reacted to by characters faster than Garou. MFTL+ is an indicator a character is above 1000c but two characters can be in the same tier and have massive gaps between the two. Best speed feat I know Garou has is sorta scaling to Saitama who caused a constellation on Io with his sheer speed. Now being charitable let’s assume Saitama was moving billions of times FTL, which in my opinion is a highball with anything higher being highly contentious, and apply a similar level of speed to Garou. Assuming he is that fast he’d be slower than Buu Saga base Goku who’s calced to have been sextillion times FTL using the traversing DB’s afterlife feat from the anime. Gohan naturally scales above this in the Buu saga as he was at one point stronger than Goku Toss in Dragon Ball Super speed scaling meta and the disparity gets even larger
as saiyaman he would probably take garou on in his base at first, but as soon as he sees garou copying his ki blast he gets serious and goes full power before garou can react and killing him as he won't mess up, not again.
@@Tylearned the Only issue with that is that Cell is bragging about destroying the Solar System while charging a Kamehameha and we know he was going all out, meaning he indeed does cap at Solar System level.
@@SonZackSSJ9kYeah cell does cap at solar system level, but he did shake the universe with his ki alone which is still impressive which is similar to the statement that cosmic garou shook the universe
@@OyinkansolaAgboola he didn’t shake the Universe with his Ki, it was just a dramatic effect or simply the rule of cool, the same reason SS2 has sparks.
@@Tylearnedwow you already being bias and disingenuous by saying Gohan would beat Cosmic garou and Cosmic garou is not no damn solar system level what kind of crack are you smoking bro U-Pull- the videos out your ass ain't nobody even asked for
@Chaos_rider_666 so saying the serious punch² that we literally see with our own 2 eyes wipe out entire star systems and galactic bodies is "only solar system" is scaling correctly?
@@SosukeTYBW nah that part was wrong but he did mention gaaro destroy hundreds of stars i would scale it to multi solar system+ level even at the beginning of the fight and at the end he might have even reached galaxy level but this still falls short of Gohan A simple eg is broly in an instant was able to destroy the whole galaxy and unlike our universe a galaxy in db verse was stated contain millions of nebula meaning a galaxy in db is atleast a million times bigger than our own galaxy And broly is on par or only slightly stronger than perfect cell even if we assume adult Gohan is 10x weaker than broly he's atleast multi galaxy level (galaxy of our irl size) All of this without even considering Gohan's potential just make him angry enough and boom we are getting mystic or worse beast form Although db movies happens in different timelines it's still part of bd cosmology as stated by Akira toriyama himself so yea I can use that feat for scaling
@Chaos_rider_666 you are conflating movie feats with anime feats they aren't the same even toriyama said look at the movies as separate alternate stories from the main timeline aka the main anime so all that broly stuff you just said doesn't count towards any anime gohan scaling also you're wrong again the serious punch² is multi galaxy easily this is what I'm talking about with this downplay just to try and put gohan ahead garou literally 1 taps him
@@MrBobytheJJBADude well the copying is more garou having a complete understanding of his universe. So throw him outside his universe he may not be able to do the same thing
I'm reading comments, god, One Punch Man fans LOVE to talk about math and things that sound smart, but have no substance. Bro, what the fuck is a multidimensional 4d punch and an extradimensional crash, just say it hits hard, it's not that hard. It also makes me a little angry that people don't know that... Dragon Ball characters are already capable of destroying planets since the beginning of the Sayan saga... someone as weak as Roshi was capable of destroying the moon without much difficulty, now imagine what Goku or Radditz are capable of at the beginning of Z, who were infinitely superior to Roshi and Frieza can easily be considered a threat on the level of the solar system or more, the guy could create supernovas as if it were nothing. People also ignore the fact that the classic Dragon Ball characters were already faster than lightning, as stated by Roshi, and that this speed also constantly increases throughout the work, and there are more examples of why Gohan is simply much stronger than Garou, even if he used the Power Up that Murata invented (which I sincerely HATE, Cosmic Garou is the worst thing the manga brought, the Webcomic has a much more interesting fight and it was discarded to make a simple, boring and unnecessarily long fight that was useless).
Im still a little confused. Garou isn't allowed to copy Gohans abilities, strength, and forms? You also said that he was solar system level so you're obviously biased but even then it's pretty obvious that if someone copies your abilities then perfects them and has the knowledge of the universe while also gradually getting stronger as the fight goes on then they would win. Maybe im wrong but he is definitely biased😂😂😂
Also we cant forget that Gohan's potential is so significantly high that even Goku had trouble keeping up, if Gohan had trained like Goku did I would have no doubts that Gohan himself would be able to surpass Beerus because of the fact that during in the Manga, the last time we have seen Gohan was during the Moro arc and he wasn't even doing much, and next thing you know he has a form that rivals that of Goku's MUI which crazy considering Gohan in the Moro arc wasn't even at the level of Blue Goku or Vegeta (I say this because the Z fighters including Gohan gets swept by Moro before Goku arrived) I will tell you that even Saitama himself would have a hard time keeping up with Gohan's potential, he went from someone who isn't as strong as SSJB to MUI level with a single movie
@@steph3847 How you going to tell me what I watched? So can I apply the same logic to you? Because can’t Garou just copy him? 💀 Bro that’s literally all he needs to do. You damn right I’m confused because he’s NERFED and you know it. Do you watch OPM? If so then you’ll know
Actually scaling Buu saga Gohan to super perfect cell is possible. Half power SSJ2 Gohan was able to kill perfect cell high diff. This means that inraged full power grade 4 Gohan should also be able to do the same thing with multipliers taken into account. Gohan in the Buu saga with ssj2 should at least be as strong or stronger that enraged grade 4 teen gohan
This is mainly in the anime tho + this Gohan is enraged and also being amped by Goku, which we know even just a little bit of ki given to you can amp you. He COULD scale to it but logically it doesn’t follow thru just because of the constant reminder of this Gohan being weaker.
6:46 bro jus yapping atp, you literally know Garou can just copy his power lvl, limitlessly in fact, why is this a debate… “but he’d prolly be remembered from back when he fought cell…” stop the headcanon bra, “MODE:Gohan” gg
Honestly people overlook Garou’s ability to completely copy anything and everything in practically seconds, so technically garou has the ability to learn infinite abilities and powers however well never see his full potential as these fights will never happen.
If anybody in the DB verse copied CFG fighting style their threat level would skyrocket. Moro and Vegeta can just manipulate the energy that’s already there Garou can just form it using his fighting style. All of these CFG vs DB character videos just make me see them copying him, evolving all of their powers, and abilities.
And garou's fighting style is unique compared to Goku so I could see multiple Dragonball characters mastering the water stream fist and develop it overtime and become BUILT DIFFERENT
@@OyinkansolaAgboola Right, ki sensing would be a massive help, Garou was just made aware of the cosmic energies, sensing it, to the level of the Z warriors would be crazy.
I disagree. You used a non canon filler scene to get Namek Frieza to multi solar system level. I don’t think all filler is non canon, but Kai is considered canon to Super and the explosion scene wasn’t in it. Super Perfect Cell said he had enough power to destroy THE entire solar system. I don’t understand how that would be consistent to Frieza being multi solar system level. Also, there’s arguments to get Garou to multi galaxy because in some panels, it looks like there’s some galaxies that blend in with the stars, but take it with a grain of salt.
The fact that he said the Serious Punch² is solar system level and the panel showed Countless planets, stars, or possibly even galaxies proves this video is BS and not just that the Serious Punch² was nerfed by the Hyperspacegates meaning the SP² is not is in full destructive capability (you can look up the details about Blast's hyperspacegates in the manga itself) Cosmic Fear Garou with his own abilities should scale to solar system to Multi-solar and being able to create behaviors in the universe (black holes, super novas, hyper novas, kilo novas, and Gamma Ray Burst) with the Saitama mode he should be atleast Low galaxy to Multi-Galaxy or Higher as he was able to transcend space-time and time travelled with his Soul or consciousness He should easily be a 4D to 5D entity. *Should i mention that Garou have a technique that targets your internal organs? Cause that would be catastrophic to DBZ Gohan😂
Bro was cooking with the first paragraph, but then let me down when he destroyed his only remaining smart brain cells and decided to revert to monkey brain scaling. Never Cook Again🗣🔥
@@Rinn_Ckhristianof course there are people who downplay Garou or Saitama, that’s one problem… but then you have guys like you who absolutely wank Garou and Saitama to the absolute highest degree possible with no proof to back up your claims. I’ve read the opm manga, and I understand it more than you do.
Doesnt matter ,that only happens when he caught offguard, otherwise gohan just cover his with shield similar to how goku and trunks survive in an erased timeline.
@@om9959 it's called "plothole" lol, if I follow your logic, all those after the zamasu arc who fought Goku have inaccessible speed (the ability to move in 0 time thanks to pure speed), which is not not true, the cosmic werewolf would have destroyed the planet during his first appearance, when he wanted to know what he could do (I'm talking about gamma rays), stop coping
@African-AmericanGoose And how is Gohan just gonna let that shit happen huh? you niggas just wanna make ways for your favorite character to win. Stop whining.
i'm not entirely sure why you wouldn't have garou in multi solar system+ considering that in the same scan you were talking about you see a massive void left in space where their were previously hundreds/thousands of stars. not to mention that gohan in his lesser ss2 version in the buu saga would logically have to top out at only solar system or maybe low end multi solar system just due to cell's most powerful attack being stated as solar system level. I get that you are using the anime which has different scaling than the actual canon scaling, but you are using statements that are extremely hyperbolic in nature to justify the characters being even higher than they would be from whats shown and whats most consistent. i'd also like to point out in regards to gohan "learning his lesson from cell" that he did the exact same thing vs buu that he did vs cell so its pretty likely that he would not put garou down fast enough even if he was far superior to him somehow. i'm not in the camp of "universal" garou by any means but he's absolutely in high multi solar for sure and anime gohan would likely be in only a slightly (well slight considering we are talking about multi solar system i guess lol) higher power bracket. Definitely a battle that isnt open and shut, but certainly more garou favored considering relative power, garous ability to rapidly gain power, do things like directly target organs/reflect attacks, and their personalities being so different
Interesting debate but Garou get massively outclassed by Great Saiyaman in almost every category You could maybe say something about Garou's techniques and combat skill but Great Saiyaman's power is so "Great" that it basically doesn't matter
Garou claps this fodder the radiation alone solos lol The fact that the radiation spreads immediately gohan would be knocked out in 10 seconds being near that much extreme radiation Wait if we are talking about the great saiyaman gohan lol did gohan get fodderized by a normal parasite from a village level blast This is an ez win for garou Wait i also realized gohan got knocked out from getting put through a wall Hell even if we bring up cell and peak ss2 gohan again radiation destroys literal cells and your genetic makeup dna Plus gohan and cell wouldnt be able to keep up with garous adapt skill and super regeneration plus his instant copy Garou and saitama went from planetary to universal level in a few chapters this is without highball or lowball aka being bias Basically lets be generous and say gohan ss2 was stronger garous copy ability would surpass him under a minute hell probably even less then 10 seconds judging by the chart and speed But tbh the powerscaling in dragon ball series is a headache due to inconsistencies Plus yall ignore the radiation in these fights and how fast and extreme it is in the opm manga it spreaded through the entire city withing minutes killing not only humans/heros but the monster as well who were not even close to the fight And judging from what we seen in the dbs and opm manga Garou will fodderized the whole z fighter team For example lets start with dbs Example 1 in the moro arc goku specifically states to vegeta they cant go in space they will die if they do Example 2 gohan got destroyed from poison example 3 goku was suppose to originally die from a heart virus which is less lethal then radiation sense not only does radiation destroy your organs but your cells and even destroys your dna to your core being Example 4 gohan cant adapt or grow in strength while fighting for him to get stronger is one recover from serious injuries for zenkai boost or 2 train in the hyperbolic time chamber He cant get stronger like garou can he wont even be able to keep up with his adaptation super regeneration and instant copying to perfect plus the knowledge of the whole universe aka ki Now opm examples Example 1 garou and saitama can fight in space something goku nor goahn can do Example 2 garou can manipulate time so can saitama even turning back time not even hit can do this with his power Example 3 which doesnt even involve garou but saitama speaking in space sound cant travel in space nor can you speak in space its physically impossible which saitama has done and genos also states saitama surpassed space and time not only that grabbing intangible objects which is also impossible Plus saitama fused with himself so he likely could be a singularity These are just examples to me you seem to downplay opm and what most of these characters are doing gohan or goku cant do these Plus dont even get me started on emtpy void and saitama data book lol This is just my opinion though
@@8bitpixel801 blud forgot that in the DBZ, Vegeta goes planet to planet without space ship, without an oxygen suit. (after freeza saga). Plus sayains don't have a problem with radiation. their beams itself are probably emits radiation. And of course they have resistance over who is weaker.
If Garou couldn’t copy power levels, Anime Gohan would win. But since he can, Garou most likely wins unless Gohan gets an anger/rage boost and one shots
@@Rinn_Ckhristian he already started his best feat of destroying several stars so yea he's multi solar system level i don't get what more details u need perhaps u want him to say gaaro is outerversal and he neggs the whole db verse including tori bot? I'm sorry but that's just ur fantasy
@@Rinn_Ckhristian based on what? Even Gohan scaled in this video is pretty tame if we take Daizenshuu (databook writen by toriyama himself) statements he scales way above universal even in z itself as the other world (heaven and hell) is mentioned as higher dimension (5D) and kioshen realm exist outside of space,time and reality transcending dimensions, even the db screenplay writer koyama confirmed kioshen realm is >5D So Gohan > Supreme Kai easily scales above 5D beyond universal
Eh saiyans can’t survive and are powerless in space stated by vegeta in Moro arc. So pretty sure after a few clashes they would be left in the vaccum of space in which gohan will most likely die. People scale vegeta to universal and yet the man died cause frieza blew up earth lol
@jvoo4795 same shit I be saying everytime then they be like "it wasn't the explosion it was space that killed him" either way wiping out the planet secures a W for the guy who can survive it and garou would survive gohan won't
Jvoo bro you are unfair you said that statement are just statements in DB. Now you are relying on statements? *"Those statements are just hyperbole"* Why don't you take it as hyperbole? As I said they were no such thing as hyperbole in DB. You literally finding excuses bruh. And that point doesn't prove anything.
Cosmic Garou hunts this version of gohan easily, garou states he has the knowledge of the flow of all energies in the universe , so even without mode change cosmic garou would scale to any cosmic event in the universe including supermassive black holes and even the big bang, off rip making garou multi-solar to universal/universal+. And even before the serious punch squared, garou was overloading hyperspace gates, and seeing as hyperspace in opm is above causality ie time and space(which is 4d), which is consistent seeing as he outright states that hes on an endless horizon of power, and empty void who is weaker than garou can physically grab space itself, move outside of causality itself which is a 5d feat, and fold dimensions, so garou even without mode change could unironically box with high tier db super characters, and the serious punch squared was actually nerfed because hyperspace gates absorb energy, even into other dimensions, and the energy of the serious punch^2 was so great that it blasted through the combined effort of blast and his teams gate, which would imply that the serious punch^2 destroyed an entire dimension and still had enough energy to destroy countless stars and even galaxies, and garou tanked that. You also downplayed garous rate of growth, cosmic garou is mftl+, and a much weaker/slower version of garou who most people consider to be ftl+ could grow a oneshot and blitz difference stronger in 13 microseconds, so the amount he must have grown at the end of his fight with saitama should be way higher than what you made it out to be, also garou implies that he instantly grows stronger than the person he copies with mode change, and its super disingenuous that you didnt bring up the fact that garou has dura neg, and you downplayed the serious punch^2 to only solar system level when even just looking at the feat from face value and from the fact that its a shared feat garou would still be multi-solar bare minimum, so to reiterate cosmic garou quite literally bullies this version of gohan.
That's alot of words all while being wrong since the very begining, wow, congrats. He has the knowledge of all flows of energy, not that he can use them. The Serious Punch ^2 did not destroy a dimension, not even close. Buu saga characters eat dimensions for lunch. Every Cell saga + character is MFTG (Massively faster than garou) Gohan is going to send him crying to his fodder verse.
@@aAaa-gj1lh And yet Goku in resurrection F died from a laser gun. And they cant even handle being in space for any prolonged period of time, nor are capable of manipulating time. Or copying the exact level of power of their enemy while also exponentially growing. Keep dreaming db fodder is a strong verse.
@@magnuserror9305 He did not even die, and it was all a cheap plot point, sit down, goku evolves as he fights since ever, he can get multiple times stronger, and can literally Hakai Garou like shown in the manga, Opm Cope is unbelievable.
@@observantbuddylol gohan is a space victim, all garou has to do is blow up the planet with a punch. Dude is casually mftl+ so there is no blitzing happening.
Kid buu out haxes him hard. While garou is dbz level, he doesn't get past the buu saga and he still gets one shotted by the Battle of gods movies, which are cannon to Z.😂
Garou was able to copy Saitama and stand his ground against him. Also he learned to fking time travel. How is this even a fight, from everything we saw Garou can become infinitly strong as long as he has a strong opponent to fight
@@Tylearned It wasn't that Garou had a limit, it was that Saitama was just outpacing him so fast he gave up because he was just making Saitama stronger
@@Tylearned Graph ? You mean that one picture where you see the 2 lines from Saitama and Garou ? If so then you dont seem to understand how graphs work my guy, also where is that graph numerical on the pic I found on google there is not a single number anywhere
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Why would he time travel with speed? no one said that. And you are wrong, in the series it is heavily implied that they do have infinite power I mean their powerlevel is scaling EXPONENTIALLY in the graph from the manga
It’s an implication via them knowing the androids were stronger then Frieza and Gohan thought he would be relevant in a fight like that. It’s just to show how strong the Z fighters were.
Cosmic Garou hunts Gohan period. Garou is far more skilled than just about everyone from dbz, not only that but he should be stronger than Gohan ever was in dbz. On top of that, even if he wasn't as strong as Gohan, he'd be stronger regardless, seeing how he would copy the base strength of Gohan at any certain point. He only can fall behind in the pace of growth. But seeng how Garou exponentially grows in power. In just a few seconds of first copying Gohan, he should be stronger than Gohan.
@@SosukeTYBWIt is because OPM is super wank that someone brings the actual scale, you guys think they're downplayed. DB has the most downplayed scaling like Goku can't destroy a multiverse which bs they did even a feat but those OPM goons trying to make some excuses. They even claim that cell was never capable to destroy the solar system in db. Or Frieza don't have the power to destroy the universe in his 2nd form, even in the anime itself was stated. Those OPM goons disregard those. Do you even felt how unfair it is. I also use to think that Saitama will win against Goku but they're wrong. Even myself was brainwashed because of those OPM goons
Obvio que la energía ni la temperatura de ningún poder de DB-Z-S podrían hacerle algo a Garou, este solo se le puede derrotar mediante ataques físicos.
Cosmic garou absolutely destroys Gohan. By his logic Garou is also universal because blast wants to teleport him to a completely different dimension. Blast Said that this fight was a battle against the supremacy of the cosmos. He literally has the power of the universe inside of him. Never less feats like standing in the origin of a black hole during a gamma ray burst. And blowing hyperspace gates that connect different dimensions. Gohan isn’t even scratching garou and garou won’t even need to use copy.
@@jikey173 yeah and u think cfg doesn't scale to ev? Well even then cfg was shown destroying the portals made by blast overwhelming the hyperspace with energy. Both ev and cfg clear dbz and stop at dbs
@@malekith33 garou never destroyed hyperspace portals, and garou doesn’t scale to the hax that empty void has rn. The only reason empty void even scales a bit high compared to the rest of the verse is because of his hax. Only the OPM god and saitama scale to it.
Well i was about to agree but i see opm downplay ,is about where garou scales. Garou easily scales low ball multi solar system of tiers. Wich is even gamma ray burst is solar system level he should be massively higher than that also i am agree with speed scale its valid. And dbz scaling also valid tho. It would be tie battle is about if garou copy gohan before getting speedblitzed. Or gohan speedblitz and garou cant copy so gohan should be winning this. The only L take here is about garou scale wich is i already mention that he is easily multi-solar system of tier.
I don’t understand how could he lose? When he basically copy everything we see when Saitama attack him with a serious punch he copy his attack instantly and he copied his mood the only reason Saitama win because with the second Saitama is evolving higher than garuo So he cannot keep up but Gohan cannot evolve with every second so how can he defeat him I really every time see this argument I don’t understand
@@aAaa-gj1lh you really don’t understand if Gohan multiplayer has power Garuo will simply copy him Remember, he can copy instantly and when he copy something he will make it perfect stronger he cannot keep up if his enemy is living up with every second but if his enemy have a level of power, he cannot pass this level simply catch up with him in a second and become stronger than him
@@roojkkjoor873 He cannot copy super saiyan, it's not a technique, and it is exclusively linked to saiyan biology, Garou simply gets folded, no contest.
At This Point.... I'd just Not Debate And Leave It to Murata-Sensei.... Cause in reality OPM verse is gonna show ridiculous amount of power scaling in future as we get to GOD.... This biasy will still try to ride dbs and dbz cause ya know, it is what it is People even after knowing OPM verse has surpassed dbz/dbs will not get their mind right... Cuz they already have a junked mind. Nothing can be expected.... But reality will strike y'all hard people.
@Mope333 What do you mean "we"??? clearly, you are biased since you ignored everything the video said. You opm fans proving how biased you are once again.
@@Samurai_Capcut Look at you being BIAS. What did I ignore? Ohhhh you want me to just accept it? When he’s just another dude? Also missed out on details while at it? Man I can DEBUNK YOU and HIM. 😂 this is HEADCANON. Also FYI - Gohan could barely beat Cell Max and he’s Multi Galaxy level
@@Samurai_Capcut 😂 Now don’t make me bring another character that’s not Saitama, that can SOLO the whole DBS Cosmology lol. Do you wanna go there? 😎 Because Cosmic Garou is just 3D-4D at best unless he can face another opponent that’s more powerful than him. But this new character lol… MAN he takes a FAT DUMP on even Beerus and Whis while in BASE. His name is Empty Void 😁
@@Mope333 The fact you didn't prove garou was 4D and you didn't prove i was biased. You even went off topic to another anime that you claim can solo. You just committed appeal to ignorance and red herring fallacy so i can dismiss your claim as false.
I’m going with Gohan. Why? Not just the Freza scaling, but the fact that gohan has been ftl SINCE HE WAS FIVE. While garou is reaching mftl there is just too much going on for Gohan since Raditz showed up to not say that Gohan is just laughably faster
Frieza got 10x stronger after namik and when he got mechanise Also wasn't the serious punch² was galaxy to multi galaxy because we can see galaxies being destroyed
I'm pretty sure that wasn't a hole in space or the stars being destroyed, but just the dark side of the moon. After all, if that really was the case, they would've also destroyed the entire solar system, given how far away the other stars really are.
People underestimate Garou so much here. He has a lot of hax. He can just copy everyone's powers with just a quick glance. Just like Goku he can instantly learn and master any martial arts on the fly. SS2? Beast? Garou will thank him for thr free power up. Have people read the manga before making their comments, I bet they didn't.
@@dweemiesdarkmount Well here is the proofs where chapter is stated. He can only copies someones energy (chp 165). But it is also limited, he can only copy any flow of the energy in his universe only. (chp 165) Plus his ability is actually to something that he can improve. Since he can copy because he remembered something: "IN MARTIAL ARTS, THERE ARE SECRET TECHNIQUES CALLED "SHAKKEI THAT BORROW THE POWER OF NATURE BY IMITATING THE MOVEMENTS OF LIVING THINGS" "THOUGH I CALL THEM "MODES" WHICH SOUNDS COOLER" And Garou said: "FOR EXAMPLE", HOW'S THIS ONE" (chp 165) So the point is he gained all the knowledge of the flow of the universe, was able to use some energy in the universe (like GRB because as I said he gained knowledge and knows how to produce it). Now he's now a guy can produce energy attacks (unlike his past) so since he have knowledge, power to produce. He was able to copy because he borrows nature's energy (still in chp.165). And since he also have the power to improved it, he took it literally to make an exact copy of the energy. So QnA: 1. Can he copy strength? -No, also he can only copy like "borrow some nature's energy" which is from his universe and only thing he sees. 2. Can he copy martial arts technique? Especially the energy based techniques? -Yes but only in his universe So I back up my claim so if you disagree=biased That's why he can only copies energy and only his universe means he cannot copy from another universe like Naruto or Dragon ball Make sure you also read carefully because you guys may misinterpreted it like in the manga that Garou can copies strength or Garou can copy someone in other anime which is false.
Please don't give him Serious Punch^2 feat as individual or even halved, it's Called ^2 squared meaning Squared so to get his own you can't even Divide it by two but get the root of the Calc.
@@InfiniteStylertbh i thought so at first but seeing how Saitama has Increasing power and even to a lesser degree he has his abilities meaning he will increase his powers to catch up,he could copy Gohan power and abilities wich would include Ssj forms as his whole body transforms down to every Cell and Atom but even if like Saitama he couldn't do 100% copy he still has other abilities like Water Stream Fist wich redirects attacks much more stronger than your own of way over ×2 times wich in DBZ was a death sentence,Whirlwind Iron Fist wich amplifies your attack potency similar and skillful enough to be relative to WSRSF,then he is capable of 2 level of combinations of those abilities and on top of that he has a combination of all martial arts abilities of his verse in Monster Fist wich surpasses all degrees of that and even adds Exploding Fist similar in power to Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist and then even further with God Power getting the God Fist
Garou is at least solar system by the gamma ray burst feat. A gamma ray burst to the power of 2 is way higher than solar proving how disingenuous this guy is. Solar system is a low wank considering garou has way better feats and statements at base.
Its called serious punch^2 because its a serious punch times a serious punch its that simple not by whatever headcanon calc/level of destruction shown, also the calcs for this feat are just wrong because the serious punch^2 was nerfed by a hyperspace gate.
The great saiyan man is literally made from childhood trauma☠️ Edit: in the anime for dragon ball, the fights are actually very slowed down so you can see them. 🥶
@@Samurai_Capcut you have no feats though.DB fankids don't know how to power scale. Just wank the sh*t out of their favourite characters powers. I can also say luffy beats gohan. It doesn't prove anything
@@SuperKamiGuruu my nigga it wasn’t galaxies, nor was it ever confirmed to be galaxies, that would make zero sense. They destroyed stars, stop glazing them niggas
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Gohan: “Stand proud Garou, you made me use 0.00001% of my power.”
*Proceeds to do the Saiyanman dance on his grave*
...b-but.. how can he stand... when he is dead?...
@@denmla7982 He can stand while in Otherworld.
Cosmic garou absolutely destroys Gohan. By his logic Garou is also universal because blast wants to teleport him to a completely different dimension. Blast Said that this fight was a battle against the supremacy of the cosmos. He literally has the power of the universe inside of him.
Never less feats like standing in the origin of a black hole during a gamma ray burst. And blowing hyperspace gates that connect different dimensions.
Gohan isn’t even scratching garou and garou won’t even need to use copy.
@@Ptsdgiver Buu Saga Gohan decimates Garou I'm not even gonna talk about DBS Gohan cause that is just overkill.
@@Generalmituna8079 Of course we ain’t talking about dbs but garou destroys dbz.
Who's Gohan, I'm here cause I saw THE GREAT SAIYANMAN on the thumbnail
I think he was that boy from the world tournament…some people say he beat cell but we all know our hero hercule beat him.
Garou after somehow beating Gohan 🥳
Garou after he hears "O wow you beated my son you must be pretty strong" 😐
Garous bout to get emoted on by THE GREAT SAIYAMAN!!!!
😂😂😂😂 bro idk why but this made me laugh Soo hard, I clicked on the vid and your comment popped up under the vid haven't watched the vid yet but facts bro straight facts
GREAT TYLEARN GAROU VS GREAT SAIYAMAN GOHAN VIDEO.
Idk
before he emote he'll die with radiation lmao
@@ya_got_cookednah
What's worst about that Mecha Frieza powercliff is that his supernova's stated 10x above Namek Frieza's, so Young Gohan>Perfect Cell>>>the Androids (legit no sells their attacks while weaker)>>>Trunks who one shots Frieza. And Saiyaman Gohan shouldnt be that much weaker than his younger self since he presses Dabura who's ≈ to if not > Cell, also when he regains that anger boost he had while younger i'm pretty sure he becomes so powerful Dabura is legit shitting bricks and doubts he can fight him.
Hey guys, notice that panel from Daizenshuu 2 you showed where it said SSJ2 Gohan’s first appearance was vs Kibito?
Notice how, prior to him transforming in front of Kibito, he went SSJ while Videl was being tortured….and only had 1 bang. Some like to say this is SSJ2 Gohan just not full power, but the panel you showed flat out stated Gohan in front of Kibito was SSJ2’s first appearance for older Gohan. That means SSJ1 Gohan by then only has 1 bang,
This is kinda definitive proof that in the tournament and onward, SSJ1 Gohan only has 1 bang, not 2. Which now throws into question what form he was vs Dabura and Fat Buu.
I wish I knew where he gets the coloured scans from, they look so good.
My coloring in the thumbnail
happy to see it
@@MsDev5 you did the Garou?
@@Tylearned yeah
uploaded on reddit but that account got suspended lol
@@MsDev5Your drawing of garou is beautiful, keep up the good work
@@OyinkansolaAgboola aye thanks man love you
@@MsDev5 love the work bro, send me your page I’ll put it in the description
What are you talking about it’s stated dabura is stronger than cell even when he’s not going all out and super perfect cell being overwhelmed by less than half power Gohan means he doesn’t need to scale to what his teens full power was and that’s not to mention that there’s guides like El manga Legendario that say Gohan was stronger than dabura I with the point being at the very least he’s fighting and above cell level opponent
This is for the anime lol, this does not happen in the manga at all tho
Goku says dabura is more impressive than he gives him credit for with his hax, Gohan in terms of stats was outright superior. Gohan as well + even Goku suggested if he were to tap into the same power as back then he’d beat Dabura, implying Teen Gohan > Dabura. Super perfect cell when emerging is stated to be the strongest at the time even with Gohan there. Gohan as well is being amped by Goku😭, and he still needed Vegetas help. If Gohan with less than half his power was really stronger than Cell, logically Grade 4 Gohan getting mad should slam him, but he doesn’t. He doesn’t even scale to Perfect Cell at his peak let alone SPC
@@Tylearned no it is more consistent for the anime. That Gohan is stronger, and even in the show and guides such a daizenshuu, he is noted to be at less than half power. Goku was not amping him there’s like one guide that implies that and it’s an outlier among a plethora of other statements and yes, gohan could have slapped him as a super Saiyan after awakening , that would be 50% of super Saiyan twos power, we never once see him go out in the cell games and for the anime not only is otherworld tournament Canon with Deborah clashing with their base states in which he scales above, but they do imply, verbatim in any continuity that he is stronger than they thought he was, which makes sense because they based him being cell level on him literally spitting on someone and that is not to mention that since you’re using the anime, Goku is stated to be equal to cell and super perfect cell is 2 times amp which, which still makes him weaker than Gohan, even if you downplayed him
@@maku3857 there are multiple guides implying he’s getting amped😭 and this Gohan is also raged amp, it’s not LITERALLY half his power or else Gohan in grade 4 could’ve jus won against PC
@@Tylearned bro Toriyama said himself that it's not your battle power that influences your ki, but will(?) and courage something else. Gohan during the beam clash was putting himself down which made him seem weaker than he should've been. When vegeta created that opening it gave him the courage to keep pushing and stay in the battle. Even Goku the whole time kept telling gohan he could win but he just wouldn't listen.
Ty the goat of youtube
Bro ur glazzin hard
Could be a really solid fight depending on how you scale the characters though this is really reliant on Saiyaman being from the Buu Saga up to Resurrection of F. Post-RoF Gohan starts training and in a sparing session with his father is shown to be somewhat relative to Goku base to base. This is important since Goku at that time surpassed his Battle of Gods self with his clashes with Beerus threatening to destroy the entirety of Universe 7’s macrocosm.
It’s possible Garou could hunt Great Saiyaman up until a certain point but after that gets stomped and emoted on
@@123GOHANZ tf gohan gonna do when garou warps him to the surface of the sun
@@SosukeTYBW This assumes Garou can catch Gohan in a hyperspace gate. If Garou can then yeah, Gohan gets BFRed and loses regardless of which version you pick since he can’t survive in space but that’s a *BIG* if. Gohan in the anime scales above a Goku who can travel universal size distances relatively quickly putting DBZ era speeds far above anything witnessed in OPM
@123GOHANZ far above? Tf make you figure that? Before God power garou was already MFTL+ now you stack on power of God that just propel all his stats on top of learning any ability he sees once and can hyper dimension travel
@@SosukeTYBW Hyperspace travel is teleportation not raw speed and has been proven to be reacted to by characters faster than Garou. MFTL+ is an indicator a character is above 1000c but two characters can be in the same tier and have massive gaps between the two.
Best speed feat I know Garou has is sorta scaling to Saitama who caused a constellation on Io with his sheer speed. Now being charitable let’s assume Saitama was moving billions of times FTL, which in my opinion is a highball with anything higher being highly contentious, and apply a similar level of speed to Garou. Assuming he is that fast he’d be slower than Buu Saga base Goku who’s calced to have been sextillion times FTL using the traversing DB’s afterlife feat from the anime. Gohan naturally scales above this in the Buu saga as he was at one point stronger than Goku
Toss in Dragon Ball Super speed scaling meta and the disparity gets even larger
@@123GOHANZ nothing gets dbz that fast
as saiyaman he would probably take garou on in his base at first, but as soon as he sees garou copying his ki blast he gets serious and goes full power before garou can react and killing him as he won't mess up, not again.
Great video!
Gohan Solo's the verse 😭
gohan solos the verse without arms, legs, blind, deaf, and holding back
@@WriggleNightbugeeehhhhh
@@WriggleNightbug betrayed and sealed for 10000 years in time chamber
@@Brightsonp STOP
@@WriggleNightbugpls don't torture him 😭
Tbh the Cell universal thing could imply he could do it overtime, supported by his clear intentions.
@@SonZackSSJ9k not really, in Kai it’s pretty much implied NOTHING will be there when the clash finishes, implying Cell is wiping everything out.
@@Tylearned the Only issue with that is that Cell is bragging about destroying the Solar System while charging a Kamehameha and we know he was going all out, meaning he indeed does cap at Solar System level.
@@SonZackSSJ9kYeah cell does cap at solar system level, but he did shake the universe with his ki alone which is still impressive which is similar to the statement that cosmic garou shook the universe
@@OyinkansolaAgboola he didn’t shake the Universe with his Ki, it was just a dramatic effect or simply the rule of cool, the same reason SS2 has sparks.
@@Tylearnedwow you already being bias and disingenuous by saying Gohan would beat Cosmic garou and Cosmic garou is not no damn solar system level what kind of crack are you smoking bro U-Pull- the videos out your ass ain't nobody even asked for
When you said hunt gohan I laughed but then I saw the comparison and I was like, oh you are making it at least a bit fair😅
@@joeydeloach8070 yea for gohan by downplaying garou feats
@@SosukeTYBW nah if anything he scaled Cosmic gaaro perfectly regardless Gohan neggs
@Chaos_rider_666 so saying the serious punch² that we literally see with our own 2 eyes wipe out entire star systems and galactic bodies is "only solar system" is scaling correctly?
@@SosukeTYBW nah that part was wrong but he did mention gaaro destroy hundreds of stars i would scale it to multi solar system+ level even at the beginning of the fight and at the end he might have even reached galaxy level but this still falls short of Gohan
A simple eg is broly in an instant was able to destroy the whole galaxy and unlike our universe a galaxy in db verse was stated contain millions of nebula meaning a galaxy in db is atleast a million times bigger than our own galaxy
And broly is on par or only slightly stronger than perfect cell even if we assume adult Gohan is 10x weaker than broly he's atleast multi galaxy level (galaxy of our irl size)
All of this without even considering Gohan's potential just make him angry enough and boom we are getting mystic or worse beast form
Although db movies happens in different timelines it's still part of bd cosmology as stated by Akira toriyama himself so yea I can use that feat for scaling
@Chaos_rider_666 you are conflating movie feats with anime feats they aren't the same even toriyama said look at the movies as separate alternate stories from the main timeline aka the main anime so all that broly stuff you just said doesn't count towards any anime gohan scaling
also you're wrong again the serious punch² is multi galaxy easily this is what I'm talking about with this downplay just to try and put gohan ahead garou literally 1 taps him
But could garou even copy Gohan without verse equaling?
Chi is just life energy, which exists in every verse, but sometimes different ways.
@@MrBobytheJJBADude well the copying is more garou having a complete understanding of his universe. So throw him outside his universe he may not be able to do the same thing
@@jayari7674True
@@MrBobytheJJBADudeAnd Garou still loses
@@InfiniteStyler I never said he doesn’t.
I'm reading comments, god, One Punch Man fans LOVE to talk about math and things that sound smart, but have no substance.
Bro, what the fuck is a multidimensional 4d punch and an extradimensional crash, just say it hits hard, it's not that hard.
It also makes me a little angry that people don't know that... Dragon Ball characters are already capable of destroying planets since the beginning of the Sayan saga... someone as weak as Roshi was capable of destroying the moon without much difficulty, now imagine what Goku or Radditz are capable of at the beginning of Z, who were infinitely superior to Roshi and Frieza can easily be considered a threat on the level of the solar system or more, the guy could create supernovas as if it were nothing.
People also ignore the fact that the classic Dragon Ball characters were already faster than lightning, as stated by Roshi, and that this speed also constantly increases throughout the work, and there are more examples of why Gohan is simply much stronger than Garou, even if he used the Power Up that Murata invented (which I sincerely HATE, Cosmic Garou is the worst thing the manga brought, the Webcomic has a much more interesting fight and it was discarded to make a simple, boring and unnecessarily long fight that was useless).
Im still a little confused.
Garou isn't allowed to copy Gohans abilities, strength, and forms? You also said that he was solar system level so you're obviously biased but even then it's pretty obvious that if someone copies your abilities then perfects them and has the knowledge of the universe while also gradually getting stronger as the fight goes on then they would win.
Maybe im wrong but he is definitely biased😂😂😂
He can't copy strength/power of someone. Instead he mimic or copy someones technique one he sees it.
Plus he only gains knowledge about the universe of the flow of all energy.
You're the ones are the biased here.
Also w ragebait lmao
@@Peunitsuhe can copy that😂 your just trying to cope
@@gokusama4445 I got it from the actual statement lmao 😂
You are the one who is coping.
@@gokusama4445 read your OPM manga lmao. The reason they're popular because they're Goku's victims.
Also we cant forget that Gohan's potential is so significantly high that even Goku had trouble keeping up, if Gohan had trained like Goku did I would have no doubts that Gohan himself would be able to surpass Beerus because of the fact that during in the Manga, the last time we have seen Gohan was during the Moro arc and he wasn't even doing much, and next thing you know he has a form that rivals that of Goku's MUI which crazy considering Gohan in the Moro arc wasn't even at the level of Blue Goku or Vegeta (I say this because the Z fighters including Gohan gets swept by Moro before Goku arrived) I will tell you that even Saitama himself would have a hard time keeping up with Gohan's potential, he went from someone who isn't as strong as SSJB to MUI level with a single movie
Short answer No not at all💀
Cosmic Garou? Yes
@@Mope333 no
@@Krypton2113 Yes. I don’t see why not lol
@@Mope333 You don't see why not because you haven't watched Dragon Ball, or this video at all.
@@steph3847 How you going to tell me what I watched?
So can I apply the same logic to you? Because can’t Garou just copy him? 💀 Bro that’s literally all he needs to do. You damn right I’m confused because he’s NERFED and you know it. Do you watch OPM? If so then you’ll know
Garou boutta taste the power of justice
Actually scaling Buu saga Gohan to super perfect cell is possible. Half power SSJ2 Gohan was able to kill perfect cell high diff. This means that inraged full power grade 4 Gohan should also be able to do the same thing with multipliers taken into account.
Gohan in the Buu saga with ssj2 should at least be as strong or stronger that enraged grade 4 teen gohan
Not really due yo him struggling against Dabura who Goku said was similar to Cell, not even Perfect Super Cell.
This is mainly in the anime tho + this Gohan is enraged and also being amped by Goku, which we know even just a little bit of ki given to you can amp you. He COULD scale to it but logically it doesn’t follow thru just because of the constant reminder of this Gohan being weaker.
I agree with him being above grade 4 teen Gohan but without the rage boost he’d prolly jus be relative with Perfect Cell
@@MrBobytheJJBADude well super perfect cell is a name the anime community gave cell after regeneration. In universe they just refer to cell as cell
@@jiero3253 Yeah, but Goku never fought Super Perfect Cell, so we can only assume he meant Normal Perfect Cell.
Since you seen to be on the mood of other OPM fights, how about this matchup:
Kaido (One Piece) VS Orochi (One-Punch Man)
6:46 bro jus yapping atp, you literally know Garou can just copy his power lvl, limitlessly in fact, why is this a debate… “but he’d prolly be remembered from back when he fought cell…”
stop the headcanon bra, “MODE:Gohan” gg
Sounds like too much yapping and too much coping from you
@@Samurai_Capcut bro didn’t even acknowledge Garou’s copy ability as a counter argument 💀 fck outta here wit that cherry pickin shi
@@ben54321 He can't copy power lvl/strength, he can only mimic or copy someones technique 💀
(Like serious punch lol)
@@Peunitsu think you need to read it again 😂 start from pg. 51 of ch.167 (Cubari)💀
@@ben54321 💀
Quick correction the solar system feat is actually galaxy level
Honestly people overlook Garou’s ability to completely copy anything and everything in practically seconds, so technically garou has the ability to learn infinite abilities and powers however well never see his full potential as these fights will never happen.
Well, characters with limitless potential do not have an end to how strong they get in the first place
I doubt garou is going to be able to copy super saiyan he's human he's not a saiyan
Yet his copy ability clearly had a limit and didn't give him Infinite power, otherwise he would've one shot Saitama.
@@farizr.batarai8271he doesn’t just copy abilities he also copies your physiology and stats
Who cares if he can copy it doesn't make you better
If anybody in the DB verse copied CFG fighting style their threat level would skyrocket. Moro and Vegeta can just manipulate the energy that’s already there Garou can just form it using his fighting style. All of these CFG vs DB character videos just make me see them copying him, evolving all of their powers, and abilities.
And garou's fighting style is unique compared to Goku so I could see multiple Dragonball characters mastering the water stream fist and develop it overtime and become BUILT DIFFERENT
@@OyinkansolaAgboola Right, ki sensing would be a massive help, Garou was just made aware of the cosmic energies, sensing it, to the level of the Z warriors would be crazy.
bros getting one shot so hard lmao
nvm bros using the syaiman
Y'all underrate and downplay Saitama and Garou.
@@abetterworld96 bro im not underating anybody your putting them agaisnt fucking dragonball characters
@@zayy4440 no dragon ball z characters put holes in space with punches
I disagree. You used a non canon filler scene to get Namek Frieza to multi solar system level. I don’t think all filler is non canon, but Kai is considered canon to Super and the explosion scene wasn’t in it. Super Perfect Cell said he had enough power to destroy THE entire solar system. I don’t understand how that would be consistent to Frieza being multi solar system level. Also, there’s arguments to get Garou to multi galaxy because in some panels, it looks like there’s some galaxies that blend in with the stars, but take it with a grain of salt.
Freeza ONLY MULTI SOLAR SYSTEM LEVEL???!!!
WTF
Vegeta from the saiyan saga,Dodoria,Zarbon and cui are all Solar system level
@@realAndresilver on Namek numbnuts
@@realAndresilver proof? If you say Dr Slump I’m gonna flip
@@joshh1740 even in the recent OPM chapters galaxies are in the background of space
kinda downplaying both
Garou would 1 shot Gohan. Not just this Gohan but super gohan mystic.
Mystic Gohan one-shots Garou along with OPM verse, but yeah SSJ2 gohan loses
DBZ base broly casually wiped away south galaxy>>>>> solar system garou
The fact that he said the Serious Punch² is solar system level and the panel showed Countless planets, stars, or possibly even galaxies proves this video is BS and not just that the Serious Punch² was nerfed by the Hyperspacegates meaning the SP² is not is in full destructive capability (you can look up the details about Blast's hyperspacegates in the manga itself)
Cosmic Fear Garou with his own abilities should scale to solar system to Multi-solar and being able to create behaviors in the universe (black holes, super novas, hyper novas, kilo novas, and Gamma Ray Burst) with the Saitama mode he should be atleast Low galaxy to Multi-Galaxy or Higher as he was able to transcend space-time and time travelled with his Soul or consciousness
He should easily be a 4D to 5D entity.
*Should i mention that Garou have a technique that targets your internal organs? Cause that would be catastrophic to DBZ Gohan😂
Facts 🔥
Bro was cooking with the first paragraph, but then let me down when he destroyed his only remaining smart brain cells and decided to revert to monkey brain scaling.
Never Cook Again🗣🔥
@@bobby5276 it's for the people that understand how much powerful Cosmic Garou's level after Saitama's growth soared exponentially.
@@bobby5276 just read the manga and look for details bud.
@@Rinn_Ckhristianof course there are people who downplay Garou or Saitama, that’s one problem… but then you have guys like you who absolutely wank Garou and Saitama to the absolute highest degree possible with no proof to back up your claims.
I’ve read the opm manga, and I understand it more than you do.
are u gonna cover cobra kai season 6 at all?
Yeah
Saiyan cant breath in space , Garou destroy the planet and copy gohan after that.
Doesnt matter ,that only happens when he caught offguard, otherwise gohan just cover his with shield similar to how goku and trunks survive in an erased timeline.
@@om9959 it's called "plothole" lol, if I follow your logic, all those after the zamasu arc who fought Goku have inaccessible speed (the ability to move in 0 time thanks to pure speed), which is not not true, the cosmic werewolf would have destroyed the planet during his first appearance, when he wanted to know what he could do (I'm talking about gamma rays), stop coping
@African-AmericanGoose And how is Gohan just gonna let that shit happen huh? you niggas just wanna make ways for your favorite character to win. Stop whining.
@@African-AmericanGoosealso they shield themselves from toxic gases on t.o.p arc. Stop whining bro.
2nd form frieza > cosmic Garou
@Peunitsu you gotta prove that can even do anything against cosmic radiation lol
Maybe this would be weird but i think ultraman or kamen rider would be cool to see but if not Ben 10 or Digimon are cool too
i'm not entirely sure why you wouldn't have garou in multi solar system+ considering that in the same scan you were talking about you see a massive void left in space where their were previously hundreds/thousands of stars. not to mention that gohan in his lesser ss2 version in the buu saga would logically have to top out at only solar system or maybe low end multi solar system just due to cell's most powerful attack being stated as solar system level. I get that you are using the anime which has different scaling than the actual canon scaling, but you are using statements that are extremely hyperbolic in nature to justify the characters being even higher than they would be from whats shown and whats most consistent. i'd also like to point out in regards to gohan "learning his lesson from cell" that he did the exact same thing vs buu that he did vs cell so its pretty likely that he would not put garou down fast enough even if he was far superior to him somehow. i'm not in the camp of "universal" garou by any means but he's absolutely in high multi solar for sure and anime gohan would likely be in only a slightly (well slight considering we are talking about multi solar system i guess lol) higher power bracket. Definitely a battle that isnt open and shut, but certainly more garou favored considering relative power, garous ability to rapidly gain power, do things like directly target organs/reflect attacks, and their personalities being so different
True true
Garou is vastly powerful than DBZ Gohan and more skillful in Martial art's and overall Garou's Hax should put him in a advantage.
Interesting debate but Garou get massively outclassed by Great Saiyaman in almost every category
You could maybe say something about Garou's techniques and combat skill but Great Saiyaman's power is so "Great" that it basically doesn't matter
Fuck no
Edit: King Kai states Mecha Frieza was 10x Namek Frieza's feat too
I got inclement Emerald, hop on brotha, also nice vid idea
I think cosmic garou hax would pressure gohan so I see him winning. W vid btw
Gohan beat someone with the same abilities when he was 9😂
@@InfiniteStylercell doesn't have the same abilities as garou 😂 what are you talking about 😂
@@InfiniteStyler no
Garou claps this fodder the radiation alone solos lol
The fact that the radiation spreads immediately gohan would be knocked out in 10 seconds being near that much extreme radiation
Wait if we are talking about the great saiyaman gohan lol did gohan get fodderized by a normal parasite from a village level blast
This is an ez win for garou
Wait i also realized gohan got knocked out from getting put through a wall
Hell even if we bring up cell
and peak ss2 gohan again radiation destroys literal cells and your genetic makeup dna
Plus gohan and cell wouldnt be able to keep up with garous adapt skill and super regeneration plus his instant copy
Garou and saitama went from planetary to universal level in a few chapters this is without highball or lowball aka being bias
Basically lets be generous and say gohan ss2 was stronger garous copy ability would surpass him under a minute hell probably even less then 10 seconds judging by the chart and speed
But tbh the powerscaling in dragon ball series is a headache due to inconsistencies
Plus yall ignore the radiation in these fights and how fast and extreme it is in the opm manga it spreaded through the entire city withing minutes killing not only humans/heros but the monster as well who were not even close to the fight
And judging from what we seen in the dbs and opm manga
Garou will fodderized the whole z fighter team
For example lets start with dbs
Example 1 in the moro arc goku specifically states to vegeta they cant go in space they will die if they do
Example 2 gohan got destroyed from poison example 3 goku was suppose to originally die from a heart virus which is less lethal then radiation sense not only does radiation destroy your organs but your cells and even destroys your dna to your core being
Example 4 gohan cant adapt or grow in strength while fighting for him to get stronger is one recover from serious injuries for zenkai boost or 2 train in the hyperbolic time chamber
He cant get stronger like garou can he wont even be able to keep up with his adaptation super regeneration and instant copying to perfect plus the knowledge of the whole universe aka ki
Now opm examples
Example 1 garou and saitama can fight in space something goku nor goahn can do
Example 2 garou can manipulate time so can saitama even turning back time not even hit can do this with his power
Example 3 which doesnt even involve garou but saitama speaking in space sound cant travel in space nor can you speak in space its physically impossible which saitama has done and genos also states saitama surpassed space and time not only that grabbing intangible objects which is also impossible
Plus saitama fused with himself so he likely could be a singularity
These are just examples to me you seem to downplay opm and what most of these characters are doing gohan or goku cant do these
Plus dont even get me started on emtpy void and saitama data book lol
This is just my opinion though
One-sided
Thank god someone remembered the radiation.
@@8bitpixel801 blud forgot that in the DBZ, Vegeta goes planet to planet without space ship, without an oxygen suit. (after freeza saga). Plus sayains don't have a problem with radiation. their beams itself are probably emits radiation. And of course they have resistance over who is weaker.
All yap just yap lol
If Garou couldn’t copy power levels, Anime Gohan would win. But since he can, Garou most likely wins unless Gohan gets an anger/rage boost and one shots
To people that sees this video!
Please don't take this seriously and don't let it sink in cause this is a Downplay "ignoring details" kind of video 👍
Care to explain in detail?
@@Life_is_miraculus "literally cherry picking Garou's info"
You: Care to explain?
@@Rinn_Ckhristian he already started his best feat of destroying several stars so yea he's multi solar system level i don't get what more details u need perhaps u want him to say gaaro is outerversal and he neggs the whole db verse including tori bot? I'm sorry but that's just ur fantasy
@@Life_is_miraculus why would I even say that Garou is Outerversal?
Is that your delusions kicking in?
He slaps DBZ Gohan and that's it.
@@Rinn_Ckhristian based on what? Even Gohan scaled in this video is pretty tame if we take Daizenshuu (databook writen by toriyama himself) statements he scales way above universal even in z itself as the other world (heaven and hell) is mentioned as higher dimension (5D) and kioshen realm exist outside of space,time and reality transcending dimensions, even the db screenplay writer koyama confirmed kioshen realm is >5D
So Gohan > Supreme Kai easily scales above 5D beyond universal
The great saiyaman might be useful for once
Y'all underrate and downplay Saitama and Garou.
@@abetterworld96 how is the truth downplay 🤣🤣🤣
Eh saiyans can’t survive and are powerless in space stated by vegeta in Moro arc. So pretty sure after a few clashes they would be left in the vaccum of space in which gohan will most likely die. People scale vegeta to universal and yet the man died cause frieza blew up earth lol
@jvoo4795 same shit I be saying everytime then they be like "it wasn't the explosion it was space that killed him" either way wiping out the planet secures a W for the guy who can survive it and garou would survive gohan won't
Jvoo bro you are unfair you said that statement are just statements in DB.
Now you are relying on statements?
*"Those statements are just hyperbole"*
Why don't you take it as hyperbole?
As I said they were no such thing as hyperbole in DB.
You literally finding excuses bruh. And that point doesn't prove anything.
@@Peunitsu i said the statement you failed to proved to be true was hyperbole. Vegeta statement can be proven in ressurection f. That simple
True. But what’s stopping gohan from just speed blitzing and ending the fight instantly. The speed gap is so massive it’s insane.
@@bobby5276 so massive yet no one has scaled that massive gap, feel free to do that yourself and prove gohan blitzes
he can, but he isnt gonna be happy about it
Cosmic Garou hunts this version of gohan easily, garou states he has the knowledge of the flow of all energies in the universe , so even without mode change cosmic garou would scale to any cosmic event in the universe including supermassive black holes and even the big bang, off rip making garou multi-solar to universal/universal+. And even before the serious punch squared, garou was overloading hyperspace gates, and seeing as hyperspace in opm is above causality ie time and space(which is 4d), which is consistent seeing as he outright states that hes on an endless horizon of power, and empty void who is weaker than garou can physically grab space itself, move outside of causality itself which is a 5d feat, and fold dimensions, so garou even without mode change could unironically box with high tier db super characters, and the serious punch squared was actually nerfed because hyperspace gates absorb energy, even into other dimensions, and the energy of the serious punch^2 was so great that it blasted through the combined effort of blast and his teams gate, which would imply that the serious punch^2 destroyed an entire dimension and still had enough energy to destroy countless stars and even galaxies, and garou tanked that. You also downplayed garous rate of growth, cosmic garou is mftl+, and a much weaker/slower version of garou who most people consider to be ftl+ could grow a oneshot and blitz difference stronger in 13 microseconds, so the amount he must have grown at the end of his fight with saitama should be way higher than what you made it out to be, also garou implies that he instantly grows stronger than the person he copies with mode change, and its super disingenuous that you didnt bring up the fact that garou has dura neg, and you downplayed the serious punch^2 to only solar system level when even just looking at the feat from face value and from the fact that its a shared feat garou would still be multi-solar bare minimum, so to reiterate cosmic garou quite literally bullies this version of gohan.
That's alot of words all while being wrong since the very begining, wow, congrats.
He has the knowledge of all flows of energy, not that he can use them.
The Serious Punch ^2 did not destroy a dimension, not even close.
Buu saga characters eat dimensions for lunch.
Every Cell saga + character is MFTG (Massively faster than garou)
Gohan is going to send him crying to his fodder verse.
@@aAaa-gj1lh Garou low difs even super.
@@magnuserror9305 Gohan one shots the Opm verse, literally,he shoots towards the entire Universe of OPM and it is gone.
@@aAaa-gj1lh And yet Goku in resurrection F died from a laser gun. And they cant even handle being in space for any prolonged period of time, nor are capable of manipulating time. Or copying the exact level of power of their enemy while also exponentially growing. Keep dreaming db fodder is a strong verse.
@@magnuserror9305 He did not even die, and it was all a cheap plot point, sit down, goku evolves as he fights since ever, he can get multiple times stronger, and can literally Hakai Garou like shown in the manga, Opm Cope is unbelievable.
I think the only grown up gohan garou can hunt is green track Suite
Not even lmao
namek saga goku/gohan is probably already enough for cosmic fear garou
this is just overkill
EXCELLENT WORK. TYLEARN DRAGON BALL VS ONE PUNCH 👊 MAN GREAT SAIYAMAN GOHAN VS COSMIC GAROU
Cosmic Garou eviscerates
@@SuperKamiGuruu Garou gets perception blitzed and one shotted with that difference in speed and power
@@observantbuddylol gohan is a space victim, all garou has to do is blow up the planet with a punch. Dude is casually mftl+ so there is no blitzing happening.
@@jvoo47955000 times faster than light is MFTL+
1 billion times faster than light is also MFTL+
…
Notice the difference?
So like no composite gohan end of buu arc would be fair but isn’t goku kinda stronger in the anime since he takes on kid buu
Cosmic Garou soloes everyone in DBZ (I'm not glazing)
But opm is no match for DBS
Do cosmic garou vs kid buu pls
Garou hard stops at the Cell saga is this bait???
Stops at buu saga bro 💀💀💀
Kid buu out haxes him hard. While garou is dbz level, he doesn't get past the buu saga and he still gets one shotted by the Battle of gods movies, which are cannon to Z.😂
@@Vader255 ye that's what I said
Garou scales to buu saga characters and it's debatable who wins garou or buu
@@Generalmituna8079 nah that is bit downplay
Opm is a about buu saga level, makes sense
Garou was able to copy Saitama and stand his ground against him. Also he learned to fking time travel. How is this even a fight, from everything we saw Garou can become infinitly strong as long as he has a strong opponent to fight
@@ideenlos9242 the manga literally shows you that he has a limit 😭 why would they show a numerical graph if he was getting infinitely stronger
@@Tylearned It wasn't that Garou had a limit, it was that Saitama was just outpacing him so fast he gave up because he was just making Saitama stronger
@@Tylearned Graph ? You mean that one picture where you see the 2 lines from Saitama and Garou ? If so then you dont seem to understand how graphs work my guy, also where is that graph numerical on the pic I found on google there is not a single number anywhere
He can't time travel with his raw speed alone and he doesn't have Infinite power as Saitama doesn't have Infinite power.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Why would he time travel with speed? no one said that. And you are wrong, in the series it is heavily implied that they do have infinite power I mean their powerlevel is scaling EXPONENTIALLY in the graph from the manga
Gohan before the chamber>frieza? Idk where yall get these calculations but idk about that one lol
It’s an implication via them knowing the androids were stronger then Frieza and Gohan thought he would be relevant in a fight like that. It’s just to show how strong the Z fighters were.
This man low balled garou and high balled gohan so it’s understandable gohan would win
He highballed a Multi Solar System+ Gohan to Universe+ and lowballed a Multi Solar System+ Cosmic Fear Garou to Solar System+
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiMan, I never understood these powerscaling terms 😭
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiGohan is not no fucking universal+ please take your biased ass somewhere else.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki bro littaraly wiped out a portion of the visable universe and put him on only solor system level.
@@nero3785 nuclear bombs can also wipe out a portion of the Universe. The point is, is that he downplayed Garou horribly.
Bro do cosmic garou vs empty void.
Empty void would need more showings before he could make more videos on him
There’s literally no need for that. If you read the manga you’ll know Cosmic Garou absolutely no diffs.
@@bobby5276Empty void did more feats than a garou😂
Cosmic Garou stomp by presence. Gohan can't handle his Passive radiation even if you lowball Garou ans say he can't copy Gohan abilities.
Something this dude conveniently left out lol but he'd probably just say some damn ki barrier would be enough but we don't know that to be true at all
Cosmic Garou hunts Gohan period. Garou is far more skilled than just about everyone from dbz, not only that but he should be stronger than Gohan ever was in dbz. On top of that, even if he wasn't as strong as Gohan, he'd be stronger regardless, seeing how he would copy the base strength of Gohan at any certain point.
He only can fall behind in the pace of growth. But seeng how Garou exponentially grows in power. In just a few seconds of first copying Gohan, he should be stronger than Gohan.
Dragon ball meat rider don't pull shit out their ass CHALLENGE LEVEL IMPOSSIBLE
Bro is crashing out rn 💀
It was thoroughly explained and reasoned for lmao, you're just venting in the comments
@@astral_editorhe literally had to downplay garou to the max to even make this a conversation
@@SosukeTYBWIt is because OPM is super wank that someone brings the actual scale, you guys think they're downplayed.
DB has the most downplayed scaling like Goku can't destroy a multiverse which bs they did even a feat but those OPM goons trying to make some excuses. They even claim that cell was never capable to destroy the solar system in db.
Or Frieza don't have the power to destroy the universe in his 2nd form, even in the anime itself was stated. Those OPM goons disregard those.
Do you even felt how unfair it is. I also use to think that Saitama will win against Goku but they're wrong. Even myself was brainwashed because of those OPM goons
Opm fan boys if you make there character lose 😡👼🏻🍼
No
Obvio que la energía ni la temperatura de ningún poder de DB-Z-S podrían hacerle algo a Garou, este solo se le puede derrotar mediante ataques físicos.
@@stevencruz5593I need anime bussy
Who thought Garou was going to massively outscale Gohan😂?
The OPM fans that think garou till this day could solo Dragonball super
The OPM fans that think garou till this day could solo Dragonball super
Not me.
Cosmic garou absolutely destroys Gohan. By his logic Garou is also universal because blast wants to teleport him to a completely different dimension. Blast Said that this fight was a battle against the supremacy of the cosmos. He literally has the power of the universe inside of him.
Never less feats like standing in the origin of a black hole during a gamma ray burst. And blowing hyperspace gates that connect different dimensions.
Gohan isn’t even scratching garou and garou won’t even need to use copy.
Please do more Beyblade vids 🙏 they did my boy tsubasa so wrong in metal fury (pls cover this)
😭 are this people serious? Garou destroys dbz. High uni easily
God bless are people not aware of empty void or are we avoiding him😂
Not easily high uni, most consistently multi solar - multi galaxy. Empty void MIGHT be able to clear dbz, but then just hard stops at dbs.
Garou is galaxy level where did you get high universal from lol
@@jikey173 yeah and u think cfg doesn't scale to ev? Well even then cfg was shown destroying the portals made by blast overwhelming the hyperspace with energy.
Both ev and cfg clear dbz and stop at dbs
@@Generalmituna8079 can get all the way to low complex if we stretch ev's feat but high uni or low multi is the most agreeable imo
@@malekith33 garou never destroyed hyperspace portals, and garou doesn’t scale to the hax that empty void has rn. The only reason empty void even scales a bit high compared to the rest of the verse is because of his hax. Only the OPM god and saitama scale to it.
Garou slams 💀
Saw the thumbnail, answer is no and its not close
Ty please im begging you stop neg diffing my subscription feed your vids too OP 😭 😭
Anime Gohan probably can win.
Manga Gohan probably can’t win.
Why does Tylearned only makes unfair match up videos that are extremely obvious who the winner is
Interesting
Bro i highly doubt it
mode gohan oneshots
How would he oneshot if he's at the same level 💀
@@astral_editorExtreme Fajin intensifies 💀
People still think he can win just switching modes bruh
Why not mode Saitama Oneshots
@@vert6537 garou already stronger so no need to change modes
@@SosukeTYBW he isn't lol
Baki vs Garou equal stats?
That would be lit
If they had equal speed, strength and durability then Baki would have Infinitley more skill than Garou and one shot him effortlessly.
Well i was about to agree but i see opm downplay ,is about where garou scales. Garou easily scales low ball multi solar system of tiers. Wich is even gamma ray burst is solar system level he should be massively higher than that also i am agree with speed scale its valid. And dbz scaling also valid tho. It would be tie battle is about if garou copy gohan before getting speedblitzed. Or gohan speedblitz and garou cant copy so gohan should be winning this. The only L take here is about garou scale wich is i already mention that he is easily multi-solar system of tier.
Make a ash vs red video
So we saying buu saga gohan isn’t stronger then super perfect cell
"Stand proud Garou, you were strong. BINGO!"
I don’t understand how could he lose? When he basically copy everything we see when Saitama attack him with a serious punch he copy his attack instantly and he copied his mood the only reason Saitama win because with the second Saitama is evolving higher than garuo So he cannot keep up but Gohan cannot evolve with every second so how can he defeat him I really every time see this argument I don’t understand
Saitama won because Garou could not adapt to him, specially when saitama began getting stronger, Opm fan hard cope.
@@aAaa-gj1lh not adapt he could not keep up with Saitama There’s a big difference
@@roojkkjoor873 It would be hilarious when Gohan pulls up a 50x multiplier by simply going super saiyan then.
@@aAaa-gj1lh you really don’t understand if Gohan multiplayer has power Garuo will simply copy him Remember, he can copy instantly and when he copy something he will make it perfect stronger he cannot keep up if his enemy is living up with every second but if his enemy have a level of power, he cannot pass this level simply catch up with him in a second and become stronger than him
@@roojkkjoor873 He cannot copy super saiyan, it's not a technique, and it is exclusively linked to saiyan biology, Garou simply gets folded, no contest.
cherry cherry piking going through the video , yapping nonsense where you find it listen to your baisness 🎶
At This Point....
I'd just Not Debate And Leave It to Murata-Sensei....
Cause in reality OPM verse is gonna show ridiculous amount of power scaling in future as we get to GOD....
This biasy will still try to ride dbs and dbz cause ya know, it is what it is
People even after knowing OPM verse has surpassed dbz/dbs will not get their mind right... Cuz they already have a junked mind.
Nothing can be expected....
But reality will strike y'all hard people.
Namek Frieza > OPM verse
@@Somtejesstudios give me your discord kid....
@@SomtejesstudiosCosmic Garou > DBZ verse
To me Cosmic Garou is Super Saiyan God at least to UI at most
Not at all
im him
I think Garou could be weaker than Gohan and still win thru far superior H2H combat tbh
saiyaman cant win, he simply loses
OPM meatriders been real quiet since this dropped
😂 no need. We know Garou takes this.
@Mope333 What do you mean "we"??? clearly, you are biased since you ignored everything the video said. You opm fans proving how biased you are once again.
@@Samurai_Capcut Look at you being BIAS. What did I ignore? Ohhhh you want me to just accept it? When he’s just another dude? Also missed out on details while at it?
Man I can DEBUNK YOU and HIM. 😂 this is HEADCANON. Also FYI - Gohan could barely beat Cell Max and he’s Multi Galaxy level
@@Samurai_Capcut 😂 Now don’t make me bring another character that’s not Saitama, that can SOLO the whole DBS Cosmology lol. Do you wanna go there? 😎
Because Cosmic Garou is just 3D-4D at best unless he can face another opponent that’s more powerful than him. But this new character lol… MAN he takes a FAT DUMP on even Beerus and Whis while in BASE. His name is Empty Void 😁
@@Mope333 The fact you didn't prove garou was 4D and you didn't prove i was biased. You even went off topic to another anime that you claim can solo. You just committed appeal to ignorance and red herring fallacy so i can dismiss your claim as false.
Could he hunt Gohan? Yes.
Would he succeed in hunting Gohan? Definitely not.
I’m going with Gohan. Why? Not just the Freza scaling, but the fact that gohan has been ftl SINCE HE WAS FIVE. While garou is reaching mftl there is just too much going on for Gohan since Raditz showed up to not say that Gohan is just laughably faster
The dumber the costume, the more the hero ground pounds Cosmic Fear Garou lol
Frieza got 10x stronger after namik and when he got mechanise
Also wasn't the serious punch² was galaxy to multi galaxy because we can see galaxies being destroyed
It is unknown if they even destroyed galaxies in the first olace
I'm pretty sure that wasn't a hole in space or the stars being destroyed, but just the dark side of the moon. After all, if that really was the case, they would've also destroyed the entire solar system, given how far away the other stars really are.
We cannot see Galaxies being destroyed. We see only stars and some nebulae.
@@OyinkansolaAgboolait is very known
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiwe see galaxies, bub. Even in recent chapters
cosmic garou stronges that gohan beast form ax yes great saiyaman wins uuuuu
Short video: no gohan slaps
Gohan beast is great saiyaman😂
People underestimate Garou so much here. He has a lot of hax. He can just copy everyone's powers with just a quick glance. Just like Goku he can instantly learn and master any martial arts on the fly. SS2? Beast? Garou will thank him for thr free power up. Have people read the manga before making their comments, I bet they didn't.
He copies energy not ki
I read it so if you are going to disagree that this is wrong then you are bias
@@Peunitsu speak for yourself.
@@dweemiesdarkmount if you insist then read it all and carefully
@@dweemiesdarkmount
Well here is the proofs where chapter is stated.
He can only copies someones energy (chp 165). But it is also limited, he can only copy any flow of the energy in his universe only. (chp 165)
Plus his ability is actually to something that he can improve. Since he can copy because he remembered something:
"IN MARTIAL ARTS, THERE ARE SECRET TECHNIQUES CALLED "SHAKKEI THAT BORROW THE POWER OF NATURE BY IMITATING THE MOVEMENTS OF LIVING THINGS"
"THOUGH I CALL THEM "MODES" WHICH SOUNDS COOLER"
And Garou said: "FOR EXAMPLE", HOW'S THIS ONE"
(chp 165)
So the point is he gained all the knowledge of the flow of the universe, was able to use some energy in the universe (like GRB because as I said he gained knowledge and knows how to produce it). Now he's now a guy can produce energy attacks (unlike his past) so since he have knowledge, power to produce.
He was able to copy because he borrows nature's energy (still in chp.165). And since he also have the power to improved it, he took it literally to make an exact copy of the energy.
So QnA:
1. Can he copy strength?
-No, also he can only copy like "borrow some nature's energy" which is from his universe and only thing he sees.
2. Can he copy martial arts technique? Especially the energy based techniques?
-Yes but only in his universe
So I back up my claim so if you disagree=biased
That's why he can only copies energy and only his universe means he cannot copy from another universe like Naruto or Dragon ball
Make sure you also read carefully because you guys may misinterpreted it like in the manga that Garou can copies strength or Garou can copy someone in other anime which is false.
Please don't give him Serious Punch^2 feat as individual or even halved, it's Called ^2 squared meaning Squared so to get his own you can't even Divide it by two but get the root of the Calc.
And Garou still loses
@@InfiniteStylertbh i thought so at first but seeing how Saitama has Increasing power and even to a lesser degree he has his abilities meaning he will increase his powers to catch up,he could copy Gohan power and abilities wich would include Ssj forms as his whole body transforms down to every Cell and Atom but even if like Saitama he couldn't do 100% copy he still has other abilities like Water Stream Fist wich redirects attacks much more stronger than your own of way over ×2 times wich in DBZ was a death sentence,Whirlwind Iron Fist wich amplifies your attack potency similar and skillful enough to be relative to WSRSF,then he is capable of 2 level of combinations of those abilities and on top of that he has a combination of all martial arts abilities of his verse in Monster Fist wich surpasses all degrees of that and even adds Exploding Fist similar in power to Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist and then even further with God Power getting the God Fist
Garou is at least solar system by the gamma ray burst feat. A gamma ray burst to the power of 2 is way higher than solar proving how disingenuous this guy is. Solar system is a low wank considering garou has way better feats and statements at base.
Its called serious punch^2 because its a serious punch times a serious punch its that simple not by whatever headcanon calc/level of destruction shown, also the calcs for this feat are just wrong because the serious punch^2 was nerfed by a hyperspace gate.
@@nonuser3166 i think the gate only redirected it and the first thing is what i said,are we agreeing?
Fur
I didn’t watch this but garou is tucked
The great saiyan man is literally made from childhood trauma☠️
Edit: in the anime for dragon ball, the fights are actually very slowed down so you can see them. 🥶
Yeah of course if you high ball Gohan he’s gonna win
He scaled Gohan accurate for the most part he didn't highball him.
@@Samurai_Capcutand he downplayed garou massively
@@Samurai_Capcuthe did. Buu saga gohan that got defeated by dabura stands no chance against cf garou
@@Returntonature145 And yet dabura would neg garou still.
@@Samurai_Capcut you have no feats though.DB fankids don't know how to power scale. Just wank the sh*t out of their favourite characters powers. I can also say luffy beats gohan. It doesn't prove anything
Hell no bro☠️ these debates be crazy overkill ☠️
They gave actual facts bro, no way ur glazing that much
@@neric3241 dude said Garou is solar system level lmao 🤡
@@SuperKamiGuruu never done anything outside of destroying a bunch of stars, saying he’s that level is being generous
@@neric3241 Stars and galaxies* you're a part of the problem for sure.
@@SuperKamiGuruu my nigga it wasn’t galaxies, nor was it ever confirmed to be galaxies, that would make zero sense. They destroyed stars, stop glazing them niggas