I gotta start asking this under every ev video. Why are so many "i dont like ev" people in the comment section of every video, with incorrect or down right lies. I don't like motorcycles, you wont see my name commenting on any video. Yall are weird.
Because people WANT to like ev’s and they watch videos to see what’s out there then after watching the videos it just confirms ev’s are just not as good as ice vehicles YET
@@swingbag12 I'd never buy another ICE car. My Mach-e is the best car I've ever owned. Most things you read are prejudice and not based on actual experience.
@@nichols1969 you are absolutely correct in YOUR situation. In my situation ev’s just don’t work. Not enough range, not fast enough charging and terrible in winter. I’m up here in Canada. For some, ev’s are awesome. For me they just don’t work…YET
@@swingbag12 I live in Canada. I also don't drive more than 300km a day, which the Mach-e is fine for, even in the winter. If I drove more I could always top it up a bit at a local charger. I agree, however. They aren't for everybody, yet. If I drove a ton of highway miles, I wouldn't have bought one.
The door button + handles are useless and have no reason to exist, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it an issue. It works just fine and I can get into the car just as quickly as any other.
I have a ford focus 2015 and I’m planning on updating for a ford Mach e mustang this summer or by December for my bday. Ik it’ll be before the is year over with i love this car
Ok so I'm not crazy lol I only heard about this car, for the very first time, when Budget upgraded me to it for free like a month ago. I have never seen 1 of these cars on the road before lol but I am SOLD man.....sexy ass car and it is a dream to drive.
The Mach E is amazing! I got a very good deal and took the risk. Was never an EV guy. Very well constructed! And thanks to your video, I now know that I have a object holder and the other one 😂
The door opening becomes second nature. Also if I were not in 🇬🇧, and in some place like Australia with spiders etc, I’d appreciate the design where there are no hiding places.
@@IP0Monsturd this is not how things work. The batteries are well protected, the rare cases where they get damaged without a major crash is damage coming through the underbody shield which is strong but not invincible. This is a problem, but a quite rare one.
@@geraldh.8047 do you mean rare as in a guy that went around a construction site in his almost new ionic 6 went to three different dealerships and they won't fix the battery and quoted him $60,000 to fix it or get a new one? Or how batteries as soon as they get out of warranty are 17k to 30k to fix?
@@teej5619 exactly this is the problem. Nobody wanted to fix the defect. They just quoted inflated replacement prices. That’s like replacing the engine because a couple of fuel lines were ripped of. It’s a repair issue, not a battery issue. And you prove my point: this is rare because you can only come up with the same ONE guy everyone is taking about.
@topranked5465 used EVs under $25k and more than 2 years old get a tax credit up to $4k. If the dealer offers tax credits on new cars, they will on the used EVs too. Get it before January since that's a pretty high priority to eliminate
you cannot really compare 2nd hand market price(28k) with new car's tag price(50k) because the new car will have 7.5k federer tax credit and some state incentives, mostly will be a little over 10k. so the real comparison is 28k vs 40k. i think a new 40k car depreciation curve would reach 28k in 2-3 years anyway.
2024 MME GT Performance Bronze owner here (I love it). This car doesn't qualify for the $7.5k EV federal tax credit because most of it was built in Mexico and China.
Veey good value! We got one 28k, less than 10k miles, certified, 150,000 warranty. Kept telling dealerships once 2024 hit these will lose even more value; no tax incentives. Kinda dumb not to see the good value! And this is about the bottom of the market. Soon these will go back up. Just like stocks buy low sell high.
It isn’t selling out mostly because of the charging infrastructure and that most people coming from ICE to EV have range anxiety. That said, the Mach-EV is still the SECOND highest selling EV SUV in the US. Only the model Y sells better so that says something… A LOT actually…
@@steveredstorm3894 that is of course true but it seems you do not know what a heat pump actually does. A heat pump generates heat more EFFICIENTLY. Without a heat pump you still have heat, it’s just less efficient. Claiming that because there is no heat pump there is no „warmer elements for the batteries“ is utter lunacy.
@geraldh.8047 Yeah, I also researched about it but I heard from one owner that when he drives to colder area then the consumption goes directly up so he has to charge the car all the time in winter.
@@steveredstorm3894 Yes, it's really sad they didn't put a heat pump in. You always have range loss in winter even with heat pump but the heat pump certainly helps so that the range loss is not as horrible. Model Y came with heat pump as standard, Model 3 has it since late 2020. Earlier Tesla models have a PTC heater just like the Mach-E.
Super curious who and how much they paid you to do this puff piece. You can ask literally any EV fans what they think of the Mach-E and most will point to a lot of different cars as being way superior to it and your argument that the car depreciated almost 50% or more in 2 years is a good sign...oh boy. There's plenty of comparison videos going along, the Mach-E has terrible real-life range, it's a sporty car but I'm super curious what happens when that battery degrades, you'll be stuck with a sports car that has 100 miles on it, great... This isn't a good EV no matter how you put it. There's better alternatives, it's still a Mustang but it's probably targeted at the people who are EV skeptics that's why it lacks most technologies a current EV has and still has traditional car items.
I appreciate your content 👍Well: it wasn’t worth 50.000+ Euros when new and dragging the mustang name through the dirt of mediocrity doesn’t exactly endear me to spend nearly 30k on it even when used. I don’t think Ford will support this model partswise for long nor will third parties invest in this to cover that. Just look at the numbers
Pretty good car for that amount of money.... Talk to me again when the battery goes bad and you have to pay to replace it outside of warranty ... Or for the same money, I can get a Toyota Camry with some options thatll have much greater range and wont need to be plugged in all the time and wont have a huge expense to keep drivable at some point...
Point 1. - A 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance or Long Range with a handful of miles can be had for $4-5K more - and you'll get a better battery, longer range, better motors and better tech all around. Then, "in only a couple years it's come down from $50K" - So, in a few more years it's going to be a $8K car - or $5K car because it needs a new $12-15K battery and has depreciated even further than other EV's, killing any chance of repair (cost to repair too high) or resale. No thanks. Point 2 - I hate the Mach-E's styling and it's the worst "style" for a mustang since the 5.0, IMO. It looks like an SUV. It's stupid 'tall' hood (That is empty) is totally retarded. Trainwreck, IMO. Appreciate your thoughts, regardless!
battery degradation is not that fast. mostly in 10years or 100k, it will degrade for about 7-10%. if you protect it well, never charge to full, degradation will be within 7%.
I don't own a Tesla but I invest in Tesla. I know they are at the forefront of this technology. They have the most reliable charging stations, which is why Ford adopted the Tesla standard charging connection which would make their vehicles able to charge at superchargers which are reliable and all over the place. There are so many examples this could be a story instead of a comment. Buying this Mach-E is a massive mistake! I can't tell you why because it's not what you want to hear but I wouldn't think twice about choosing Tesla as my first EV some day. To me, it's an absolute no brainer. I feel sorry for the ones who buy this, they're buying the old tech, not the new future tech. Tesla's first car was more advanced than this! far more advanced!
in general, electric cars depreciate very quickly, more than half of the value of the car is the battery, which already after a few years of use has a very poor autonomy!...2nd hand electric cars are not worth it...and the most of us know that...
as opposed to ICE cars that don't depreciate....? EVs depreciate much slower. The reason for the recent price drops is due to Tesla pricing very very aggressively
@@sorinelpustiu5674 LOL... The video itself is pointing out how much the Mustang EV has depreciated by 1/2 and now you're trying to claim ICE is worse? Comical. Oh and what makes it more funny.. a 1964 1/2 restored mustang has actually GONE UP in value.
@@Andrew-nh5zg How about doing some research before making a fool of yourself? Ford Edge starts at 38,000$ Mach E starts at 43,000$. Cheapest 2021 Mach e in the US is 25,000$ Cheapest 2021 Edge in the US is 14,500$ Where's that 50% you were spewing? Must suck for the Edge owner, lost 65% in value AND had to pay a ton for fuel and maintenance
The reason for the depreciation is that EVs are not selling, carlots are broke out with EVs not selling. Most Americans are not buying into the EV bs. Why buy the inconveniences of an EV when for the same or less money you can buy a conventional car without the charging inconvenience of EV. EVs gain you nothing but more trouble in our already complex life. If you like a gimick, buy an EV.
Inconvenience? How exactly? Most Americans travel less than 30 miles each day in their car. So the range anxiety is unwarranted fear mongering from anti-EV narratives. EV’s don’t need to stop at gas stations. Most EV owners charge at home while they’re asleep. For as little as $2 for 150 miles of range depending on local electricity rates. EV’s don’t need oil changes, transmission flushes, spark plug replacements. WAY less maintenance.
I gotta start asking this under every ev video. Why are so many "i dont like ev" people in the comment section of every video, with incorrect or down right lies.
I don't like motorcycles, you wont see my name commenting on any video. Yall are weird.
Because people WANT to like ev’s and they watch videos to see what’s out there then after watching the videos it just confirms ev’s are just not as good as ice vehicles YET
Did you also tell everybody for the last 10 years, that motorcycles are unusable trash and that nobody wants to buy them anyway?
Imagine you did.
@@swingbag12 I'd never buy another ICE car. My Mach-e is the best car I've ever owned. Most things you read are prejudice and not based on actual experience.
@@nichols1969 you are absolutely correct in YOUR situation. In my situation ev’s just don’t work. Not enough range, not fast enough charging and terrible in winter. I’m up here in Canada. For some, ev’s are awesome. For me they just don’t work…YET
@@swingbag12 I live in Canada. I also don't drive more than 300km a day, which the Mach-e is fine for, even in the winter. If I drove more I could always top it up a bit at a local charger. I agree, however. They aren't for everybody, yet. If I drove a ton of highway miles, I wouldn't have bought one.
Wow, I'm seeing used GTs for 30k (50%+ depreciation) Now that sounds like a feasible option.
I'm looking into it as well. The car looks fantastic, and hopefully when I go to buy in April/May 2025, it'll be even lower.
@@biclighter4918Same. That’s when I’m thinking about purchasing one.
Those door handles are the best!!!!
Just bought a 2022 standard range Mach-E and picking it up in 2 days. I love this car and can't wait to drive it.
How’s the Car treating you ?
Updates? I'm thinking of getting one.
Love it! @@GregorySaunders-bv4xt
@@kena.8003I really love the car. As long as you don't drive more than the range of the car in a day, it's great.
@@nichols1969 Thanks for the update and glad you're enjoying it. It's a stunning car and a great value!
i newer had a problem with the doors maybe you just have to get use to them
Haha I was one of the engineers worked on the door buttom system.
Then you should be embarrassed.. although maybe you were forced to design that, but it’s going to be an obvious failure point..
I drive this for Uber and ppl are confused when they try to open it but they get very excited about the door technology.
I like it a lot!
I like it as well, it is different and feels futuristic
Any change takes awhile to get use to. I think it’s better than a traditional door handle. People love to hate change.
I’m seriously considering one. I have price for $56k for a new MME GT PE.
The door button + handles are useless and have no reason to exist, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it an issue. It works just fine and I can get into the car just as quickly as any other.
This car just looks so sick to me. May have to pick one up.
I have a ford focus 2015 and I’m planning on updating for a ford Mach e mustang this summer or by December for my bday. Ik it’ll be before the is year over with i love this car
Ok so I'm not crazy lol I only heard about this car, for the very first time, when Budget upgraded me to it for free like a month ago. I have never seen 1 of these cars on the road before lol but I am SOLD man.....sexy ass car and it is a dream to drive.
The cheapest used is a 2023 Mach-e in Australia is $64,888 ($44,215US)
I thought getting a GT version but my wife hated the way these looked 😅 we went w/a Hyundai Ioniq 6. It’s been great
The Mach E is amazing! I got a very good deal and took the risk. Was never an EV guy. Very well constructed! And thanks to your video, I now know that I have a object holder and the other one 😂
Didn't even mention the ford build quality and gaps are far better than tesla. 🤣
The door opening becomes second nature. Also if I were not in 🇬🇧, and in some place like Australia with spiders etc, I’d appreciate the design where there are no hiding places.
Dumbest comment section I’ve read in a while. EVs and the Mach E are awesome!
I believe used Mach E and Polestar 2 are the best deals at the moment
And for the unth millionth time...ITS NOT A MUSTANG, it just self-identifies as one
Check back in with us when you do your first battery replacement or get in a minor fender bender with your delicate EV.
@@IP0Monsturd this is not how things work. The batteries are well protected, the rare cases where they get damaged without a major crash is damage coming through the underbody shield which is strong but not invincible. This is a problem, but a quite rare one.
@@geraldh.8047 do you mean rare as in a guy that went around a construction site in his almost new ionic 6 went to three different dealerships and they won't fix the battery and quoted him $60,000 to fix it or get a new one? Or how batteries as soon as they get out of warranty are 17k to 30k to fix?
@@teej5619 exactly this is the problem. Nobody wanted to fix the defect. They just quoted inflated replacement prices. That’s like replacing the engine because a couple of fuel lines were ripped of. It’s a repair issue, not a battery issue. And you prove my point: this is rare because you can only come up with the same ONE guy everyone is taking about.
Test drove one. Didn’t like the hood and the ridges and glare while driving. Hated the dials too
I just bought a '21 premium for $21k after tax credit ($25k before)
How do you get the tax credit?
@topranked5465 used EVs under $25k and more than 2 years old get a tax credit up to $4k. If the dealer offers tax credits on new cars, they will on the used EVs too.
Get it before January since that's a pretty high priority to eliminate
This is going to be my first foray into EVs the depreciation was expected so yay!!! Now if only the taycan can follow suit 😅
you cannot really compare 2nd hand market price(28k) with new car's tag price(50k) because the new car will have 7.5k federer tax credit and some state incentives, mostly will be a little over 10k. so the real comparison is 28k vs 40k. i think a new 40k car depreciation curve would reach 28k in 2-3 years anyway.
Tax credit gone
there are still used car incentives as well. maybe not for $28k, but there are plenty that are sub $25k, which qualify for $4k used EV credit as well
2024 MME GT Performance Bronze owner here (I love it). This car doesn't qualify for the $7.5k EV federal tax credit because most of it was built in Mexico and China.
2023 GT owner, here in Delaware last year we got $3850. Tax credit. We love our Mach E!
Tesla might have the best charging network out there, but wow this Mach e looks stunning, I'd certainly choose the Mach e over a Tesla 👍😁💪🏴
the difference in insurance cost between the ford and tesla is insane
i also love the doors
What’s it like with both
My insurance like 150
wher edo i et a cheap one??
How about used 2022 Tesla model Y
I think it wood look fantastic with wood paneling!
10 years ago
I knew you were on 183 as soon as I saw GAMA lol
only tows 2200Lbs otherwise I would snap one up. Model Y tows 3500Lbs.
There’s nothing cheap about these vehicles
range? charging time?
Veey good value!
We got one 28k, less than 10k miles, certified, 150,000 warranty.
Kept telling dealerships once 2024 hit these will lose even more value; no tax incentives.
Kinda dumb not to see the good value!
And this is about the bottom of the market. Soon these will go back up. Just like stocks buy low sell high.
I think the Mach-E looks good, but there is a reason why you don't see many of them on the road and 10k+ of these cars are available nationwide.
It isn’t selling out mostly because of the charging infrastructure and that most people coming from ICE to EV have range anxiety. That said, the Mach-EV is still the SECOND highest selling EV SUV in the US. Only the model Y sells better so that says something… A LOT actually…
@@JCee1992 I guess people are lining up at Ford dealerships to get a Mach-E. Maybe it will pass the Model Y next year 😉
@@justdigit That statement made zero sense but “Okay”… 🫠
@@JCee1992 When you don't get, you don't get it. Try to use more filters and even with very low sales nubers you can make it number one 🙃
@@justdigitlmao what? I see more tesla everyday than ever now I hardly see any Mach e driving around.
If i would drink a shot everytime he says Mock E ...😂
The shit does not even have a warmer elements for the batteries, so in winter it does consume more and more when degree goes down 😅
This is just not true. Of course the Mach-E can heat the battery.
@@geraldh.8047 It does not have heat pump, check for yourself.
@@steveredstorm3894 that is of course true but it seems you do not know what a heat pump actually does. A heat pump generates heat more EFFICIENTLY. Without a heat pump you still have heat, it’s just less efficient. Claiming that because there is no heat pump there is no „warmer elements for the batteries“ is utter lunacy.
@geraldh.8047 Yeah, I also researched about it but I heard from one owner that when he drives to colder area then the consumption goes directly up so he has to charge the car all the time in winter.
@@steveredstorm3894 Yes, it's really sad they didn't put a heat pump in. You always have range loss in winter even with heat pump but the heat pump certainly helps so that the range loss is not as horrible. Model Y came with heat pump as standard, Model 3 has it since late 2020. Earlier Tesla models have a PTC heater just like the Mach-E.
I don't know why the name bothers people so much? I think "MOCK" e is a great name for a fake Mustang!
Super curious who and how much they paid you to do this puff piece. You can ask literally any EV fans what they think of the Mach-E and most will point to a lot of different cars as being way superior to it and your argument that the car depreciated almost 50% or more in 2 years is a good sign...oh boy. There's plenty of comparison videos going along, the Mach-E has terrible real-life range, it's a sporty car but I'm super curious what happens when that battery degrades, you'll be stuck with a sports car that has 100 miles on it, great...
This isn't a good EV no matter how you put it. There's better alternatives, it's still a Mustang but it's probably targeted at the people who are EV skeptics that's why it lacks most technologies a current EV has and still has traditional car items.
I appreciate your content 👍Well: it wasn’t worth 50.000+ Euros when new and dragging the mustang name through the dirt of mediocrity doesn’t exactly endear me to spend nearly 30k on it even when used. I don’t think Ford will support this model partswise for long nor will third parties invest in this to cover that. Just look at the numbers
How much is the battery replacement cost in your “great” Mach E?
8 Year 100,000 mile warranty so if it fails before then I guess free. Try again buddy!
😂 @@therealbiddywell played
@@therealbiddyif I buy it use with the 8yrs still be for me since I’m not the first owner?
@@NewChoices32 Yes, all manufacturers warranties transfer to the new owner
@@therealbiddy thank you
Pretty good car for that amount of money....
Talk to me again when the battery goes bad and you have to pay to replace it outside of warranty ...
Or for the same money, I can get a Toyota Camry with some options thatll have much greater range and wont need to be plugged in all the time and wont have a huge expense to keep drivable at some point...
Ok get a Camry lol. Mach E is for the cool people anyway
Toyota’s suck, ugliest car on the road!
The Mustang is better replaced by a dino. The software is dredging. Ford is years behind Tesla.
The Tesla jelly bean car is a dinosaur...it has not evolved and changed for many years. Same boring models and ugly design!
Point 1. - A 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance or Long Range with a handful of miles can be had for $4-5K more - and you'll get a better battery, longer range, better motors and better tech all around.
Then, "in only a couple years it's come down from $50K" - So, in a few more years it's going to be a $8K car - or $5K car because it needs a new $12-15K battery and has depreciated even further than other EV's, killing any chance of repair (cost to repair too high) or resale. No thanks.
Point 2 - I hate the Mach-E's styling and it's the worst "style" for a mustang since the 5.0, IMO. It looks like an SUV. It's stupid 'tall' hood (That is empty) is totally retarded. Trainwreck, IMO.
Appreciate your thoughts, regardless!
battery degradation is not that fast. mostly in 10years or 100k, it will degrade for about 7-10%. if you protect it well, never charge to full, degradation will be within 7%.
@@yili9725sounds like you took in the sales pitch hook, line & sinker. Now tell us the fairy tale about your EV’s range.
@@IP0Monsturd there are many people measured the battery degradation. it's pretty much in line.
It is an SUV lol
I don't own a Tesla but I invest in Tesla. I know they are at the forefront of this technology. They have the most reliable charging stations, which is why Ford adopted the Tesla standard charging connection which would make their vehicles able to charge at superchargers which are reliable and all over the place. There are so many examples this could be a story instead of a comment. Buying this Mach-E is a massive mistake! I can't tell you why because it's not what you want to hear but I wouldn't think twice about choosing Tesla as my first EV some day. To me, it's an absolute no brainer. I feel sorry for the ones who buy this, they're buying the old tech, not the new future tech. Tesla's first car was more advanced than this! far more advanced!
If you want an ugly jelly bean looking car buy a Tesla...if you want a nice looking EV buy a Ford.
A 4 door mustang is a disgrace! Real Mustangs are 2 door sports cars!! Terrible!
Evs are awesome as long as you have a gas powered car too
in general, electric cars depreciate very quickly, more than half of the value of the car is the battery, which already after a few years of use has a very poor autonomy!...2nd hand electric cars are not worth it...and the most of us know that...
as opposed to ICE cars that don't depreciate....?
EVs depreciate much slower.
The reason for the recent price drops is due to Tesla pricing very very aggressively
@@sorinelpustiu5674 battery is not degrading that fast as general perception. the battery is designed to use for more than 15 years.
Not going to buy a car with the equivalent of a shrinking gas tank that's outrageously expensive to replace.
yup, continue paying outrageous gas prices+maintenance+depreciation for a slow ICE car.
I'm sure that's a smarter choice....
@@sorinelpustiu5674outrageous gas prices? Its $2.70 a gallon here lmaooooo
@@wormer66 woow so cheap,only 16,000$ in fuel for 100,000miles.
And another 10-15,000$ in maintenance
lmaaaoooooooo
@@sorinelpustiu5674 LOL... The video itself is pointing out how much the Mustang EV has depreciated by 1/2 and now you're trying to claim ICE is worse? Comical.
Oh and what makes it more funny.. a 1964 1/2 restored mustang has actually GONE UP in value.
@@Andrew-nh5zg
How about doing some research before making a fool of yourself?
Ford Edge starts at 38,000$
Mach E starts at 43,000$.
Cheapest 2021 Mach e in the US is 25,000$
Cheapest 2021 Edge in the US is 14,500$
Where's that 50% you were spewing?
Must suck for the Edge owner, lost 65% in value AND had to pay a ton for fuel and maintenance
Mustang? Get real. ;)) It looks more like Ford Kuga Mach-E to me. And its a nice car.
The reason for the depreciation is that EVs are not selling, carlots are broke out with EVs not selling. Most Americans are not buying into the EV bs. Why buy the inconveniences of an EV when for the same or less money you can buy a conventional car without the charging inconvenience of EV. EVs gain you nothing but more trouble in our already complex life. If you like a gimick, buy an EV.
Inconvenience? How exactly?
Most Americans travel less than 30 miles each day in their car. So the range anxiety is unwarranted fear mongering from anti-EV narratives.
EV’s don’t need to stop at gas stations. Most EV owners charge at home while they’re asleep. For as little as $2 for 150 miles of range depending on local electricity rates.
EV’s don’t need oil changes, transmission flushes, spark plug replacements. WAY less maintenance.
28k you could buy a new one now