I agree wholeheartedly, mate. He (his prison look, I like to call it) looked scary, but in a cool way. The messy hair, in my opinion, made him look like a hulking, intimidating, Aboriginal (which I'm fairly certain he is, more or less. He's definitely not a black guy).
@@TypicalBlakk Yes, it is. It sounds much more aggressive, as if you're actually fighting an inmate who wants to kill you(which is initially what he was supposed to be).
This design is much better. Here he just looks like a really big dude, in t7 he looks like a gorilla due to having arms that reach under his waistline.
T4 wasn't great competitively, but i loved the drastic design change they took with this game, also loved the stages, and how some characters had 2 completely different looks, like paul with the classic look, and hair down, or marduk with bald head, and long hair, etc, T4 had cool outfits.
@Tcb bct I could've sworn I left a reply, but when I checked later it was gone. Either way I basically said the same thing in one of his 2 month old whining videos...
Since due to heavy focus on comp, many FGs to me are kinda lacking any charm and such like T4 had,and any content outside the Core fighting and online feel more a afterthought or forced sense of having something to do like Smash ults World of Light and MK11s towers.
The tackle was even more complex than you mention on the video - for each punch you had the option to try and kick him off during the block (2 button escape). If you were right (e.g. he did a 2 punch and you did 1+3), you'd block and kick Marduk off. BUT, if you were Marduk, and you anticipated your opponent kicking you off, you could do a 2 button attack yourself (1+3 or 2+4 for left or right respectively), and when they attempted to kick you off you'd do a heel hook type throw instead for about 30 damage. So if you did a right punch with 2+4, and they guessed right and attempted to escape with 1+3, you catch them in the heel hook and they eat damage. BUT, if you guessed an escape attempt and they did a normal block, and they guessed the correct side, you'd dismount (e.g. you attacked with 1+3 and they did a 2, they'll block and Marduk will stand up). Also, Marduk freaking rules :-)
Here are the examples for anyone interested: th-cam.com/video/dwnFo5NdEDs/w-d-xo.html Tekken 4 even had him laugh: th-cam.com/video/e2v8pJeIKAQ/w-d-xo.html
Dude my sister the same thing (we still play tag 2 together) and she is like "oh do not pick that big scary dude pls" she is still a little scared of him lol
@@tekkenlord9099 I disagree probs an injury he got or something even the tekken 4 character select screen show it. Tbf I like it it adds to his character.
@@apollyon9946 I appreciate that, King kind of forgave Marduk at the end of 4, and him defeating Marduk at 5 and burying the hatchet shows how great of a character King is.
@@GodNoodle_ the Heihachi thing in T7 had a good base idea, sort of give us more reason on why he would throw a 9 year old off a cliff, but it flopped in trying to make him *too* heroic, also I'm not even gonna dignify the Narrator or Character Episodes
Please do more T3 revisited videos. It was my first Tekken ever as a kid and I instantly fell in love with Eddy's desing and gameplay since I washed my uncles, brother and friend when I played him 😂
@@giuseppemaggio5894 though I ain't sure he's mid tier nowadays... super good poking, long range safe launching, guess game about the way to sidestep, good throw mixups that give guaranteed stuff, parry, safe mid RA, avove average RD, top 10 wall damage and good wall carry... Doesn't feel like he's mid tier tbh
@@ultralowspekken In Tekken 7 if you consider there to be "top", "upper", "mid", "lower" and "bottom" tiers he definitely hovers around the upper tier. It's just that his tournament viability isn't very good.
It was the most impreshinable stage for me when I got this for PS2 back in the day. I like that it was almost always the first stage you started on during playthroughs of the game. Really makes it feel like all the Tekken characters were taking some R&R before the tournament. The music is so chill and mellow as well. Created a laidback atmosphere.
I remember the day I played Tekken 4 around the time it had come out, getting so salty with Marduk's moves. I really did not like him manhandling me like that at all.
What you said about the map 0:46 made me think (if it doesn't exist) there could be a map in a parking with many pillars which means it's "hard" to get an opponent on it (according those pillars are human size) and it could explode (why not) to another pillar (geese estate parking) I dont know if it's clear. In my mind this sounds incredible, in Tekken 8 they could design gameplay around the Tekken 7 spirit with those large combos, but with maps making it just look better (and why not new interactions with fencing only able to catch with certain moves) Pls harada XD
the tekken 4 stages could 'easily' be brought back, just have an option for a "default" or "competitive" style, just add a couple walls to make an arena/wallbreak/floorbreak whatever and boom.
best game in the tekken series hands down just awesome best stages best music i mean look at the beach airport the mall and the building stages man we want them remastered.And ofcourse don't forget authentic sky the legendary awesome music in the series by far😍❤😘😘
Your Tekken revisited videos are amazing, you should do more of these. If you have the time for it, why not start from Tekken 2 and introduce us to every title newcomers. Just an idea, I don’t know if it’s worth, but keep it up, I love your videos I always watch them as soon as I can, because your content is that interesting. Thank you for you support towards the community and keep up the good work.
hey tmm i think it would be quite appreciated if there was a video about t4 heihachi and his omen shimmy step i can give some details on how to access the stance heihachi can leave his opponent quite close from tgf for a combo by delaying the tgf from the delayed tgf you can also use all cd moves but now incomes the interesting part: after delaying the tgf and holding the 1 button you only need to do d,u when successfully done you will see heihachi stepping forward from the omen shimmy step you can access to a otgf and a just frame hell axle
A couple of points about Marduk's f+1+2 in this game. It's one of only two highs in the history of Tekken that are launch-punishable on block (as far as I'm aware), the other being the high extension to one of TTT1 Prototype Jack's strings (the exact name escapes me). It's also -4 *on hit*.
@@davidparry5310 Ah. I love that string, but yeah, it kinda sucks. It also comes in FC,d/f+1,2,f+1 and FC,d/f+2,f+1 variations, still just as bad aside from a bit of mix-up value.
@@JunKazamaFan It's actually come to my attention that, apparently, Lei's d/b+4,4 in this game, the second hit of which is a high, is also launch-punishable on block at a massive -25. I'm beginning to understand a little better why Lei was considered so trash in this game. That said, I still hope that TMM covers it in some detail in a future T4 revisited video on Lei.
@@JunKazamaFan Actually, the biggest Achilles' Heel of Lei in T4 was probably the fact that he's the most stance-based character in the game, coupled with the fact that movement and spacing were practically non-existent in T4. Those two things were just oil and water. Mix-ups from stances require space to set up, and space was what you had hardly any of in T4 most of the time.
Omg Marduks debut? Yo, he sucked so bad haha but this was the time I was starting to use big dudes in all games. Gief in SF, Hulk in Marvel, etc so I used the hell outta weak ass Marduk and made him work. His default outfit that's in his cutscene at the end was hands down the best. That hair was on point, same as Paul with his hair down. Tekken had so many great ideas through their history that they just got away from.
Tekken 4 was the beta in the CHANGING of battle mechanics in Tekken in which they introduced us the that we can do now aerial combos AT LEAST...that we cant hardly do way back in Tekken 3 because of slow recovery, hard to do moves, hard to add some move extentions, few movesets in command list...and very few characters that has moves that you can add as a simple extentions for their air combos...they made every character now in Tekken 4 a little bit faster for more move execution...even character designs Tekken 4 was the BETA of re designed costumes and their appearances that became iconic and we known now for every characters...and then re designed again in Tekken 5 in which Tekken 5 was became the ALPHA (THEY NAILED IT) in terms of iconic costumes that has been reused again in Tekken 7 and movesets that first appeared in Tekken 5...just like changing Craig Marduk's VALE TUDO STANCE to TACKLE Mix ups....and so on to the other characters.....
Didn't Marduk also have a sort of an armor move shoulder charge in this game as well? Think he could tank a hit without the hit cancelling the move, just resetting the animation.
Marduk main and a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu blue belt here, I'd say that Marduk's mount attacks in Tekken 4 is the most realistic, since he'd go with an armbar from the mount or headbutts after the fourth punch. While in Tekken 7, he'd go with a knee bar from the mount which is totally unnecessary because BJJ on the mount, BJJ fighters would prefer to attack the upper part of the body instead of the lower part (the legs). It is also less likely that a BJJ or submission fighter would try to get a guillotine from the mount, one would try to get the guillotine from the guard or the sprawl position. Thanks for the video TMM, I didn't realize that Tekken 4 Marduk was more realistic on the mount. Great video! :D
Marduk’s Tekken 4 hairstyle should be a customisable item in Tekken 7.
I agree wholeheartedly, mate. He (his prison look, I like to call it) looked scary, but in a cool way. The messy hair, in my opinion, made him look like a hulking, intimidating, Aboriginal (which I'm fairly certain he is, more or less. He's definitely not a black guy).
That would require Namco to actually make a good then. Telken 7 is trash so they have to keep with the theme
@@2hot4u68 Bet you still play it, though, don't you.
@@liamroberts1458 nope, I gave it a fair shot, and so my criticism is legit
@@liamroberts1458 dont bother arguing with this guy ive seen him say tekken 7 is trash in 20 different videos the dedication
BEST VOICEEEEE
"I'll break your face!"
Walter Roberts was the best.
True. This voice was so good for him.
Dave No He Doesn’t
@@TypicalBlakk Yes, it is. It sounds much more aggressive, as if you're actually fighting an inmate who wants to kill you(which is initially what he was supposed to be).
wow marduk looks normal with his waist being normal and not skipping leg day
😂😂😂 forreal. I remember THIS Marduk. Idk about T7 rendition. He looks too cartooney.
Lol he looks cartoon as shit here too 😂😂
Send me
Baki Hanma His shoulders and arms are HUGE, it’s so hard to pinpoint whether his upper body is bigger or they made his legs too small.
This design is much better. Here he just looks like a really big dude, in t7 he looks like a gorilla due to having arms that reach under his waistline.
Anna got a taste of Marduk's "Bum Rush" in Tekken 5.
:)
*I ALWAYS GET WHAT I WANT*
*HA HA HAA*
🤣
Damn, I forgot about that """Rival""" """Fight"""
T4 wasn't great competitively, but i loved the drastic design change they took with this game, also loved the stages, and how some characters had 2 completely different looks, like paul with the classic look, and hair down, or marduk with bald head, and long hair, etc, T4 had cool outfits.
It's interesting to compare just how different the atmosphere between Tekken 3 and Tekken 4 is. Tekken 4 is a lot more laidback.
@Tcb bct Do you truly feel this way, or are you just parroting what your favorite Tekken personality insists since 2020?
Maybe you should delete both comments instead of just one next time.
@Tcb bct I could've sworn I left a reply, but when I checked later it was gone. Either way I basically said the same thing in one of his 2 month old whining videos...
Since due to heavy focus on comp, many FGs to me are kinda lacking any charm and such like T4 had,and any content outside the Core fighting and online feel more a afterthought or forced sense of having something to do like Smash ults World of Light and MK11s towers.
The tackle was even more complex than you mention on the video - for each punch you had the option to try and kick him off during the block (2 button escape). If you were right (e.g. he did a 2 punch and you did 1+3), you'd block and kick Marduk off. BUT, if you were Marduk, and you anticipated your opponent kicking you off, you could do a 2 button attack yourself (1+3 or 2+4 for left or right respectively), and when they attempted to kick you off you'd do a heel hook type throw instead for about 30 damage. So if you did a right punch with 2+4, and they guessed right and attempted to escape with 1+3, you catch them in the heel hook and they eat damage. BUT, if you guessed an escape attempt and they did a normal block, and they guessed the correct side, you'd dismount (e.g. you attacked with 1+3 and they did a 2, they'll block and Marduk will stand up).
Also, Marduk freaking rules :-)
Sounds sick,
Tackle was even more dangerous back then
im getting flashbacks of the Tekken Zaibatsu forums
This guy must be a marduk main may i introduce u to steve fox???
Here are the examples for anyone interested:
th-cam.com/video/dwnFo5NdEDs/w-d-xo.html
Tekken 4 even had him laugh:
th-cam.com/video/e2v8pJeIKAQ/w-d-xo.html
Of course we want more of this gold
Tekken Revisited is one of the best things about tmm's channel.
Tekken Revisited got me hooked on MainMan's content.
So good to see you revisiting this great game! The airport stage is so nostalgic.
No joke, when I saw him for the time, he literally scared me (I was just a kid)
I actually like how they gave him a beard this time.
Dude my sister the same thing (we still play tag 2 together) and she is like "oh do not pick that big scary dude pls" she is still a little scared of him lol
How is Marduk scary?
@@tekkenlord9099 has a bit of his ear missing.
@@UnkindledKieran it's probably just a mistake while the graphic designer was making him
@@tekkenlord9099 I disagree probs an injury he got or something even the tekken 4 character select screen show it. Tbf I like it it adds to his character.
Tekken revisited is my favorite. Love the history.
The tekken revisited series are some of your best and most interesting videos. Keep it up!
Man i feel so old now. Also the bum rush is supposed to be a Pancrase style combo since they couldnt strike with a closed fist in that Tournament
Gotta remember that T4 still had weight differences. So some moves wouldn't launch larger characters. That why the head but didn't launch marduk
I'll Never Forget Marduk...
Joyfully boots up tekken 4
Picks King
"Armor King Was Murdered"
No way to instantly make me hate a character as a kid then to have that character kill your main.
That story was so good. Then they became best friends in T5.....
@@apollyon9946 I appreciate that, King kind of forgave Marduk at the end of 4, and him defeating Marduk at 5 and burying the hatchet shows how great of a character King is.
@Tcb bct Tekken will never have good writing again... Sigh.
@@GodNoodle_ the Heihachi thing in T7 had a good base idea, sort of give us more reason on why he would throw a 9 year old off a cliff, but it flopped in trying to make him *too* heroic, also I'm not even gonna dignify the Narrator or Character Episodes
The fight club stage is my favorite in t4. Even though it was a small stage, the raw rock ish music, crowd “ohhh” and knocking down the npcs is epic.
Marduk with hair reminds me a lot of Saejima from the Yakuza games.
Hmm... Interesting
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this. With his hair and his "just beat the shit out of you" combat style, he's very similar.
Shinku Quickman both characters also later have a shaven head as there default look so that’s another similarity haha.
I never noticed that lol.
coolest moment when using an interact-able object is when you giant swing an opponent with king into a telephone box completely destroying it.
Marduk with hair was an interesting sight.
And then in some versions his speaking voice sounded like an angry Blanka.
Please do more T3 revisited videos. It was my first Tekken ever as a kid and I instantly fell in love with Eddy's desing and gameplay since I washed my uncles, brother and friend when I played him 😂
I remember murduk having a escape reversal in his tackle it was one of his hidden moves not listed on the move list 😲
why does his crotch bulge around as much as it does when he's idle?
u likey
I was thinking that too, it looks like an idle animation for Voldo or something
wow you're right that kinda does give that vibe.
Now I can't unsee it.
He was an Stripper before look the way he dances
That pelvic thrusting idle animation is hilarious 😅
Look at him. He is the number one
And he still the number one
Can you review Tekken 3 Hwoarang? First appearance of the character with a much more different playstyle
And an unblockable uf3,4
Hwoarang is probably the only character to never switch tier throughout the years...he's always been mid-tier (low tier in offline tournaments)
@@giuseppemaggio5894 though I ain't sure he's mid tier nowadays... super good poking, long range safe launching, guess game about the way to sidestep, good throw mixups that give guaranteed stuff, parry, safe mid RA, avove average RD, top 10 wall damage and good wall carry...
Doesn't feel like he's mid tier tbh
@@ultralowspekken In Tekken 7 if you consider there to be "top", "upper", "mid", "lower" and "bottom" tiers he definitely hovers around the upper tier. It's just that his tournament viability isn't very good.
d 1+2 counters highs and launches, ws2 sidesteps and tracks, 1,2 VTS mixup with ws1, ws2 and tackle etc.
That’s where I found my main! Been running Marduk ever since!
My favourite stage with my favourite character, damn i spent a lot of time with marduk on this map when the game came out.
Man, I just love T4.
I'd like for T8 to be some love child of T4 & T7
This outfit needs to return....
With a beard option.
One thing I'd like you to add is how good the character is tier wise for history purposes
Marduk s4 move: rage drive bum rush😎
It's "upgraded"
;)
f+2~1,2,1 for huge advantage on block.
@@JunKazamaFan Giving Marduk some more plus moves sounds evil as fuck
It never ceases to amaze me the tiny details you notice.
The airport stage was also one of my favorites because of the theme
I love the camera movement during throws
Thank you for giving Marduk more attention MM, seems like he's been growing on you lately
I want more Tag 1 revisited tbh it was my favorite game in the arcade.
This stage is the best and I like the song too
It was the most impreshinable stage for me when I got this for PS2 back in the day. I like that it was almost always the first stage you started on during playthroughs of the game. Really makes it feel like all the Tekken characters were taking some R&R before the tournament. The music is so chill and mellow as well. Created a laidback atmosphere.
Tekken 4 in general has some of the best outfits, completely kicks Tekken 7s ass in the design department
This is the REAL Marduk. There was no mercy when he got you on the ground!
tekken 4 had some bangers: authentic sky, touch and go, fear and ofc kitsch just to name a few
Cons: no ground throws, bad combos, no ws 1,2 followup
Pros: normal human legs
you can also feint/fake the ground and pound punches for Marduk in Tekken 4.
My favorite Tekken game, stage, and song.
The old tekken content is truely my favourite
You forgot the dickjab vs mount glitch in which he just tries the mount again so you can infinite...
The headbutt from FC, you need to press back after move connects, so he will pull you back the opponent.
Tekken 8 should have Tekken 4 like maps
I’ve always wanted to main Marduk the longest but he’s so hard to pick up, I’ll get there one day
Why didn't he talk about the back mount? That was biggest difference alongside the mount punches.
Tekken 5 marduk breakdown next
I remember the day I played Tekken 4 around the time it had come out, getting so salty with Marduk's moves. I really did not like him manhandling me like that at all.
Player 1 Marduk does like a weird hump thing in T4
Surprised there was no mention of his f+3+4 "Ironman Tackle." It's not unblockable in this game, but it has a pretty cool animation.
marduk's b2 its like a zangief move
What you said about the map 0:46 made me think (if it doesn't exist) there could be a map in a parking with many pillars which means it's "hard" to get an opponent on it (according those pillars are human size) and it could explode (why not) to another pillar (geese estate parking) I dont know if it's clear. In my mind this sounds incredible, in Tekken 8 they could design gameplay around the Tekken 7 spirit with those large combos, but with maps making it just look better (and why not new interactions with fencing only able to catch with certain moves) Pls harada XD
the tekken 4 stages could 'easily' be brought back, just have an option for a "default" or "competitive" style, just add a couple walls to make an arena/wallbreak/floorbreak whatever and boom.
9:15 leap frog giants
We need more stages like this in the next tekken
I'm liking this series. Would like more revisited content.
"Don't bother getting UP"!
Love this-takes me back!
Tekken 4 still my favorite game
That b2 is Zangief Green Hand
Marduk with hair looks about as good as Vin Diesel with hair
best game in the tekken series hands down just awesome best stages best music i mean look at the beach airport the mall and the building stages man we want them remastered.And ofcourse don't forget authentic sky the legendary awesome music in the series by far😍❤😘😘
Your Tekken revisited videos are amazing, you should do more of these. If you have the time for it, why not start from Tekken 2 and introduce us to every title newcomers. Just an idea, I don’t know if it’s worth, but keep it up, I love your videos I always watch them as soon as I can, because your content is that interesting.
Thank you for you support towards the community and keep up the good work.
I never understood why Marduk sounds like Ogre or some monster in this game.
For that reason I thought he was Armor King unmasked before play his story mode
Tekken 4: Marduk big.
Tekken 7: Marduk smol
Feels good to be a marduk main
Man I didn't know they added Taiga Saejima from Yakuza 4
hey tmm i think it would be quite appreciated if there was a video about t4 heihachi and his omen shimmy step
i can give some details on how to access the stance
heihachi can leave his opponent quite close from tgf for a combo by delaying the tgf
from the delayed tgf you can also use all cd moves
but now incomes the interesting part:
after delaying the tgf and holding the 1 button you only need to do d,u
when successfully done you will see heihachi stepping forward
from the omen shimmy step you can access to a otgf and a just frame hell axle
These are my favourite Videos that you do :)
A couple of points about Marduk's f+1+2 in this game. It's one of only two highs in the history of Tekken that are launch-punishable on block (as far as I'm aware), the other being the high extension to one of TTT1 Prototype Jack's strings (the exact name escapes me). It's also -4 *on hit*.
Hammer Rush? The two low swipes, two uppercuts, and a high left slash?
@@JunKazamaFan Yes.
@@davidparry5310 Ah. I love that string, but yeah, it kinda sucks. It also comes in FC,d/f+1,2,f+1 and FC,d/f+2,f+1 variations, still just as bad aside from a bit of mix-up value.
@@JunKazamaFan It's actually come to my attention that, apparently, Lei's d/b+4,4 in this game, the second hit of which is a high, is also launch-punishable on block at a massive -25. I'm beginning to understand a little better why Lei was considered so trash in this game. That said, I still hope that TMM covers it in some detail in a future T4 revisited video on Lei.
@@JunKazamaFan Actually, the biggest Achilles' Heel of Lei in T4 was probably the fact that he's the most stance-based character in the game, coupled with the fact that movement and spacing were practically non-existent in T4. Those two things were just oil and water. Mix-ups from stances require space to set up, and space was what you had hardly any of in T4 most of the time.
TMM, you should do a breakdown on T4 Lei. Word on the street was that he was bottom tier in this game. Good vids as always dude.
Need to move more towards this direction again. And also bring back destructible environments!!!!
They need to re-release these T4 stages in tekken 7 updated. But that the obstacles are easily breakable
Omg Marduks debut? Yo, he sucked so bad haha but this was the time I was starting to use big dudes in all games. Gief in SF, Hulk in Marvel, etc so I used the hell outta weak ass Marduk and made him work. His default outfit that's in his cutscene at the end was hands down the best. That hair was on point, same as Paul with his hair down. Tekken had so many great ideas through their history that they just got away from.
More TK Revisited videos plz, especially Tekken 3
Tekken 4, still my favourite Tekken of all times!
Tekken 4 had the best stages of all fighting games
Speaking of revisited, does anyone else remember Mainman's vow he made last year for EVO 2020?
Damn life sucks sometimes.
I wish we had a long hair option in the newer games.
I known him earlier as ARmor King Slayer not ,Marduk
T6 Leo next pls
Yes
Should do a retrospect on urban reign for ps2! The hardest boss used marduks profile and still to this day is the hardest brawler ever made!!!!!
Where did TMM get that picture of Marduk from? That's not from the opening.
Tekken 4 was the beta in the CHANGING of battle mechanics in Tekken in which they introduced us the that we can do now aerial combos AT LEAST...that we cant hardly do way back in Tekken 3 because of slow recovery, hard to do moves, hard to add some move extentions, few movesets in command list...and very few characters that has moves that you can add as a simple extentions for their air combos...they made every character now in Tekken 4 a little bit faster for more move execution...even character designs Tekken 4 was the BETA of re designed costumes and their appearances that became iconic and we known now for every characters...and then re designed again in Tekken 5 in which Tekken 5 was became the ALPHA (THEY NAILED IT) in terms of iconic costumes that has been reused again in Tekken 7 and movesets that first appeared in Tekken 5...just like changing Craig Marduk's VALE TUDO STANCE to TACKLE Mix ups....and so on to the other characters.....
Love when you play older tekken games.maybe some online t5 dr or t6 next?
I remember marduk and steve were weak in tekken4 but they became beast in t5
Steve was pretty damned strong in T4.
The T4 stages still make me chuuum
@ 0:30 DOA still has all this shit.
Didn't Marduk also have a sort of an armor move shoulder charge in this game as well? Think he could tank a hit without the hit cancelling the move, just resetting the animation.
Marduk main and a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu blue belt here, I'd say that Marduk's mount attacks in Tekken 4 is the most realistic, since he'd go with an armbar from the mount or headbutts after the fourth punch. While in Tekken 7, he'd go with a knee bar from the mount which is totally unnecessary because BJJ on the mount, BJJ fighters would prefer to attack the upper part of the body instead of the lower part (the legs). It is also less likely that a BJJ or submission fighter would try to get a guillotine from the mount, one would try to get the guillotine from the guard or the sprawl position. Thanks for the video TMM, I didn't realize that Tekken 4 Marduk was more realistic on the mount. Great video! :D
man i love T4
I miss those stages and interactions. Story was also better - dark, mafia oriented with genetic experiments in background
DOA 5 has that stage
Tekken 4 content is the best content
Yes he now is a tall dwarf .short legs and small feet.
Looks like Saejima
Can we get a Tekken Stage tierlist?