Tekken 4 Revisited | The Original Demo Man Was An Impossible Move
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Back then, my older brother was the only one to actually do demo man in my neighborhood, and no matter how many times he lost to people, he’d always say “yeah but can you do demolition man tho?” And walk away victorious 😂
Cleanest option select I've ever seen
That's when you learn how to Demo Man and then dust him with Paul
Like a boss
"Do you even demoman"
Me: eeeeeeeeeeeeee 👀
Bro can anyone send a message to tmm to review the back button attachment on ps4 and how it can help pad players by a big margin
"What makes me a good Demo Man? If I were a bad Demo Man, I wouldn't be sitting here discussing it with you, now, would I?!"
oh look at em. Prouncin about with their heads full of eyeballs.
God I love Tf2 references!
@@Walou_ Dear God...
@@SonofTiamat Theres more
JKF 201726 someone also had a great childhood!! Man I miss TF2 😢😢😢
I remember when my Mom rented me a ps2 console a long time ago, the previous dude that rented it left their copy of Tekken 4 in the disc drive😂
*yoink*
😂😂😂
Thats insane luck
fuck i miss the ps2 days haha
“Rented”
@@Cafetero_ sorry for offending you with my poor English
The only reason he kept hitting it is because he was recording for youtube where the opposite of what he wants to show always happens.
He recorded the command and just plays it
NeoZero r/woosh
TH-cam (curse) Blessing
I always loved how Julia's hair used to smoothly wave with the wind back in T4 and T5.💚
Those are the little details that often times go unappreciated.
Candas Turan yeah I really love that. This is also similar to Lara in the tomb raider games.
I loved how tight those shorts were on her ;D
@@aaronclayton8958 Yes! I just remembered how I used to play Tomb raider 2 as a child and the only thing about her character model which indicated movement and gravity was her long braid and I loved that so much.
@9192631770 H Hm I dont know about that. Yes she looks very small here next to Paul but Julia was always one of the smaller characters in the franchise. And Paul is pretty tall.
She's actually pretty much average sized compared to the other females. She only looks so small due to her idle animation. Nina for instance looks slightly taller than Julia in-game. However, she is actually way smaller than Julia lore wise.
Yeah. Now in Tekken 7 physics, you move her and her hair commits suicide.
Tekken 4 is like VF3 the games were the black sheep of their franchises and had lots of thing that people had to get used too. But omg there were so many secrets and possibilities that were just exclusive that it makes them great to me.
When 4 came out I had no clue why everyone shitted on it. I’m STILL waiting for the feature to come back where they let you change your positioning before the round starts
“If you do a DemoMan 3 times in a row during a T4 tournament, everyone will applaud for your execution. ”
“If you do a DemoMan 3 times in a row during a T7 tournament, somebody will call you a brainless scrub stupid trash.”
Well, Guess Paul in T4 is just like Dragunov in Tag 2...I mean the execution of course :3 They both were high-execution required hardcore character.
When was Paul ever a high-execution character? Everything that's high execution with Paul has a superior version that's easier to do, lol.
It makes me sad to see this Paul, and the Paul we have now.
Simply Tekken 4
I love your tekken revisited videos TMM, especially tekken 4. Such a fun and good game and its nice to see it again nowadays and see the cool intricacies hidden that most of is may have missed. Amazing work as always 👍
Julia hair was moving with the wind
1rst Tekken where boobs moves if I'm not wrong.
It's alive
Ah yes, back when Paul was respectable.
Now he just fucks noobs up who can’t sidestep for shit
Before he just wanted to be a champion. Now he’s the Dan Hibiki of Tekken
@@awaisakram8573 Let's not even try to talk like tracking in Tekken doesn't get more and more absurd with each iteration. Makes the game "more accessible", we get it. It is what it is.
@@NFS4LFE If Dan could accidentally kill you within seconds, LOL sure.
RationalMinded Paul is the easiest counter on the whole roster if you’re having problems against him you should be working on your fundamentals
The best part is this Demo Man already has a blue spark version in T4, though I think the input is 1+2 on 3rd hit
That's the input for all T4+ xD
@@Asian_newbie You only have to input 1 instead of 1+2 in T4. To get the additional damage, you have to press 2 also.
Demo man had gotten easier with every single iteration after T4. Trust me some higher leveled Paul players in T7 would still struggle to get DM consistent even in T5.
I agree with u, man. T6 and Tag2 DemoMan still need some timing input. In T7 however, the regular DemoMan is just as easy as snake edge....
Oh yeah I tried the T5 demo man and it was hard
@@MikeZhu114 damm it was even hard to do in tag 2 as well
It's piss easy in T7
No, it hasn't gotten easier with *every single* iteration of Tekken, just going from Tekken 4 to the original Tekken 5 (when the requirement for two just-frame inputs was removed) and from TTT2 to Tekken 7 (when the just-frame requirement for the string was removed altogether).
Yeah, in T4, it was so goddamn hard, but then in T5, I think they added more frames of leniency because I can do it easily, same with T6 and Tag 2, I'm honestly saddened that T7's DM is simplified, the just frames made him more difficult.
Tekken 4 is such a smooth looking game i wished that new tekken games kept it.
Funny story about 4 they were actually going for a soft retcon were they removed most of the fantastical elements and tried to keep it in the realm of reality and IMO they probably should of kept it that way since the story was actually cohesive in 4
swordholder09 and then boom! DJ and Jinpachi in T5 lol But yeah the aesthetics of T4 along with stages and simple juggle aspect of the gameplay is just so satisfying
@@swordholder09 you mean the same tekken 4 where the ending of kazuya is that he steals the soul of Jin and turns into the devil?
yes, very realistic and non-fantastical
@@CErra310 He said MOST of the Fantastical elements, not all.
And he's right.
The story itself was supposed to be somewhat more grounded and ALOT less Comedic.
(Note there is ZERO: Joke Characters in Tekken 4, not even the Mokujin of the game, Combot, is considered a joke.)
@@CErra310
Yea but they made the devil a gene instead of a curse here along with the introduction of the g-Corp being a rival to the zaibatsu.
Same in tekken 6, You only have a small amount of time to hit the last button. And when t7 released, everyones doing demoman lol.
At least its a bit easier in T6. There's still some muscle memory involved but its actually doable. One of the most satisfying moves in the game
Blue sparkle version is hard af tho
I remember trying this to do the demo man in practice back when it was released on console on the PS2, I would get the demo man after every now and then. Next thing, there was another version where the demo man could do more damage if you hit 1+2 instead of just 1.
Paul has always been my main and until I got Tekken 7 a few months ago (and played it for the first time) I always used his hang over move.
Once i played as him in t7,the demo man blew my mind lol
I wish the OST for the beach stage was my prom theme.
authentic sky is the best music in the entire tekken history just get chills every time i.hear it tekken 4 is the best ✌🙂😍
Jeez, I just noticed that even Paul's hair is moving with the wind. Developers really upped the ante with T4.
I remember playing T4 on the arcade... Jeez it was about 13 years ago. Good game, good times.
Jeez, me too. The amazing thing is that at the time the graphics were twice as beautiful as Tekken 7 for today. It was unbelievable.
Tekken 4 still looks amazing
tbh I prefer looking at it over tekken 5
I can land even blue spark version consistantly back then. The key is to hit 2 when d4 just about to hit the leg, and press 1+2 just before the elbow hit. The good thing about demoman here is that you can keep spamming it even when enemy block d4 and its safe when the elbow jf hit even when you failed to land the 1 or 1+2.
It was pretty difficult to land but people at my arcade still landed it pretty consistently. I remember chetchetty landing it often in matches against MDJ etc too
Also spark version looks cooler d+4:2:1+2
I remember myself as a young teen trying to do this move, I did it TWICE in my 2 years of being obsessed with this game. I thought until now that I was just pretty bad back then, but I see I was actually a god xD
Lol I did it 3 times in 2 minutes
@@nervshmrv1245 Yes and you aren't a 13yo without internet access.
I believe that the just frame version doesn’t stop the second hit from coming out. That might have been Tekken 5, but I thought it was Tekken 4.
You can tell the JF version because it has sparks. I remember training myself for this on mute.
@@charlesmcgovern2395 I meant that it still comes out when blocked. I seem to have left that part out.
Back then people were like:
"Do you even demo man bro?"
Lmaoo
It wasn't just Demo Man there were others too like Lee's Acid Rain which was much harder then and I think Heihaci's EWGF. There were also JF's that were later removed like Lee's 1,2,4:4 JF, Heihachi's Diamond Hellsweep and the infamous Jin JF Laser Scraper. Tekken 4 introduced quite a lot of new JFs to the series as well as other interesting things like Nina's Hayashida and Law's DSS stance and transitions.
5:31 that face😂
I had some trouble executing it at first, but then it comes the double tap on 2, which makes timing on the last hit much easier, and now it comes out no problemo 😁
Claudio has a double just frame in 1+2, 1+2, F1+2 for an extra 2 damage lol
Lol... didn't know that
Yeah but who gives a fuck about claudio
Omg how do people find this ?? And why must there be hidden moves anyway
@@illusions500 I didn't share my wisdom to hear such blasphemy hahaha
@@tay-basswalker3964 neither did I until last week!
Dude i struggled with this move in T4. I loved how hard it was
MainMan goes full Poggers at 8:30
Everybody knew Demo Man as Falling Leaf back in the day. Bone Breaker was the US name, but the community used the Japanese translations most of the time. Three Ring Circus was White Heron combo, and of course Rising Uppercut was Wind Godfist.
Off topic but I really hope season four is no new characters (or like 2 max) and just a bunch of old stages, customization/legacy outfits and game modes
Love the tekken revisited content Main Man! As a Lee main, I would love to see the difference in Lee from the previous titles to T7. Keep up the great work. 👊😎
Hey TMM, can we get a Tekken 4 Revisit of Marduk?
I miss his T4 f+2,1,2,1. Back then he wasn't a total brute and was capable of finese
@@SonofTiamat I miss his old tackle. I feel like that could deserve some kind of breakdown.
The f+1+2 Ironman Tackle was a fun move to bust out, even if it was a little slow to start up. I liked the 1+2 Power Knuckle, too.
I would like to see breakdown of Tekken 4 Marduk and why he was considered trash. Ditto with Lei and King in this game.
In tekken 4 paul mirror matches, you did demo man to establish dominance.
We would go crazy if we hit the demo man back in the days with my friends. It was indeed super difficult to do.
Bring this back and see how many high level blue ranks drop Paul
"high level blue ranks." What do you mean?
@@sashimi879 The blue ranks after the ruler ranks, so fujin and raijin and whatever else
@@funkopapa8223 what's high level about that?
@Angela Simpson Is Bae weird question. If you want to know my rank, it's Tekken King.
@@sashimi879 Tekken king on what character?
I couldn't do this move as well. I had a friend who could do it every time, King also had one like during his grab chains
Holy shit so that explains why I could never do it except like once or a few times after multiple sessions.
Paul and Julia...
In their old clothes...
At a beach...
Can't get more classic than that ^^
Paul Phoenix, the Akira Yuki of Tekken.
Those Akira just frames... 🤦🏾♂️
Yes! MORE TEKKEN 4 VIDEOS PLEASE!!!
This game has very cool stages wow
0:15
I think Harada watched that video when he was working on Season 4 :P
someone mentioned it!
it was nearly impossible to execute this on T4!
Tekken 4 Paul is the coolest Paul. Even if his Demolition Man is hard to do he's still got it in Tekken 4. Tekken 5 onwards they made him a joke character.
More Tekken 4 content, pleeeeease!
the thing i miss the most about tekken 4 is the stages, it would be so fun to have a way to play them in tekken 7, like i would pay so much money for that.
and now, it's a total joke (well, maybe the blue spark version is a little difficult)
That's because frame-perfection for such a staple just doesn't make sense. For something crazy, sure, but just for a little extra flare on a move he's had since Tekken 1? Nah.
Shadow it can be spammed also by scrubs i remember before i had to practice demo man for like 1 month but now its just easy makes me want to punch harada for all that sorrow 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Ewgf would like to have a word with you. Some just-frames are just necessary to know.
They should've kept it like Tekken 5/6 where it took practice but didn't feel as if you only hit it with luck.
@@RationalMinded I'm probably biased as I'm mostly a 2D fighting game player, where just-frames are for combos instead of specific moves.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN SF4 player? Those 1-frame links were ridiculous IMO, I'll admit that.
Akira Yuki is laughing from his 1993 grave... "Stun palm of doom" anyone?
HOUGEKI!
UNSHIN!
*SOUKOUSHOU!*
@@Brian-rx9sp 十年早いんだよ!
@@JoelOman1980 Ora! Ora! Ora!
SPOD is way easier than Demo Man in this game, even in earlier VF games where the execution requirements were much harder it’s still easy. Guard Break of Doom and the one frame knee are his hard moves.
I guess there's no "feeling it out" here. You just have to be godlike.
Julia in those lime green shorts...yum!
Looks very Lara Croft-y in that outfit
Lol you're in every Tekken video i see, commenting on the female characters
Pvshka yea definitely
I like that damage scaling you mentioned.
Demoman Tag 2 video tutorial was awsome
Non-blue has 3 frames of leniency while the blue version has 1 frame aka a true just frame. As others mentioned, even if you block it, there is no block stun on jf version. It made T4 Paul arguably the best version of all the tekkens. There was a glitch with King where if he blocks it he can run up into SW and get a back throw lol.
Demoman is not a just frame in T7, Except for the blue version. They completely removed the d+4:2 part. So it's either d+4,2,1+2 or d+4,2:1+2
Soul Cal and VF players have a few characters just like this.
Paul is just a blonde Akira Yuki. You think T4 Demoman is some bullshit? Check out Akira's 3P+K+G follow-ups.
@@Brian-rx9sp Guard Break of Doom is easier than Tekken 4 Demo Man but it’s really hard to do on reaction in an actual match. Plus, his one frame knee his harder than Guard Break of Doom especially in a real match or in combos (although I’d still say it’s easier than Tekken 4 Demo Man).
Yeah because Paul's the developer's pet the double just frames vanish and Lee still keeps his Acid rain, and also makes b2 loops harder.
Hah. When I go back to this game periodically I always go see if I suck at doing this or not.
Many of the broken things you see in this game are almost impossible to do in normal gameplay.
so basically the demo man was like Lee's acid rain
I decided to just go for it out of curiosity just now and I got like...six of them in practice mode?! I even got two in a row.
It's like doing a link in a Street Fighter game. You really have to watch the screen to see when he's making contact at each point. From there it's just down to muscle memory.
It's definitely not reliable for a real match, let alone a combo, but it's also not mega-impossible either.
It's not THAT hard of a move and I'm disappointed there was no mention of a hidden blue spark version (press 1+2 as an an ender instead of just 1).
Exactly, reading rainbow or its not good.
But its bullshit him saying no one did this, mazroth and fetz both did this shit. The only thing ill admit about it, was you sorta needed to warm up to make sure you were ready for tournament to use this move
I hope we get a Tekken 4 King breakdown, to this day I still have no idea what they were thinking.
Whys that? Whats wrong with him in t4?
Same, I’m interested to know what was wrong with him ?
@@aldxbaran Apparently, he was a trash character in this game. I'm not sure why, though.
I don't know whether any of you have seen it but Adrian has since released a video on Tekken 4 King. In it, he talks about the hitbox issues with ff1, how it was duckable by smaller members of the cast despite being a mid. In addition, having perused Tekken Zaibatsu's frame data for Tekken 4 King, I would make a more general point about his mids being useless, as well as about how King just wasn't suited to the poke-heavy, rushdown-oriented, up-close-and-personal game that was Tekken 4. To be fair, Adrian did allude to the latter when he referred to how King wouldn't do too well under pressure. I would add that he's never been great at applying pressure of his own either. Both of these were constants with King that hurt him more in Tekken 4 than they have in any other game.
Bruh this gave me Vietnam flash backs practicing that move like 1 billion times and still cud never perfectly do it XD
Do one on Tekken 4 King
8:46 It sounds like you're pressing the last button a tad bit too early
He forgot to mention on block the demo man continued and people must block the whole string
Lol.. Here I thought that I was the only one that cant do it back in the day. I remember though in t5, the timing is more linient than that of T4
Me: Nice background.
Morty: You son of a beach, I'm in.
I can't stop looking at the stage and the water,do I have a problem?
You don't have the stage is breathtaking
Aestheticly Tekken 4 is absolutely amazing. Tekken 2 to tekken 5 are all really good to amazing when it comes to aesthetics
Demo man in Tekken 4 the trick is d4 (during hit) 3 and (during hit) 1+2. In comand list see d4 (during hit) 2 (during hit) and 1 only. The real demo man don't leave un comand list
Man T4 has some amazing music... Jukebox on PC when for the love of God
there was a hammer punch to demo man!? i didnt know that
God I love the aesthetic of this game
Omg MainManSWE Im so glad you talked about this!!!!
I saw a pro tekken 4 match where a paul player was hitting it like 50 percent of the time
Is it true that bryan in tekken 6 has an infinite combo of sth like that?i saw a guy play and in his combo there were 3 bounds and then he ended the combo.ps:it was infinte stage tho
You should do a video on Yoshi's Soul Stealer.
Hi, I believe you're exaggerating a bit... Indeed move was HARD but not so impossible / completely useless. A friend of mine who skilled really Paul was able to throw this (with sparks) sometimes even during normal fight, and especially for wall hit ender it was really cool. I personally think a more challenging JF at that time were all Heihachi's TGFs variants like Diamond(? AFAIK), Saffire, Omen (also pretty much useless though). I remember I hit them once in the tournament, but in fact, it was more luck than skill xD. @TheMainManSWE - maybe next episode about this move? ;)
Diamond was Hei's Hellsweep JF I think.
@@atuls55 Yeah you're obviously right. Diamond hell or omen TGF - it was long time ago and I've mixed things up.
I can swear the deathfist had a second input of ss 2 in tekken 4. Just saying.
It was SW~f+2.
@@chetchetty I actually mean ss2, I remember that cause I didn't know about the quarter circle inputs back in the day but learned how to sidestep lol.
That's what I'm saying. The alternate input for deathfist was sw into f2 not ss2.
@@chetchetty Can't u hear what I'm saying? I got the so-called (by me) *URRA move* from sidestep, not from sway.
I do now and I see where the misunderstanding is. SW is and always has been shorthand for sidewalk. SWY is the shorthand for sway. The instant deathfist comes out of sidewalk. The technical notation would be either u,U~f+2 or d,D~f+2. I hope this clears things up.
I think they got a bit jealous about Akira Yuki's DLC and SPOD back in the day. As a Tekken Kid VF4 was best the best fighting game ever made back then.
Could you"plink" the inputs? Not sure if inputs work the same in this game.
T7 needs a
Retro Character Outfit Pack....
It is wild cause even if you hit it, the reward is beyond mediocre
You gotta do the blue one!!
Tekken 4 it's always welcomed
That shit was so hard to do 😭
I always have problem to perform his Ultimate Punishment.
Behind their back, qcb 3, 2, 2. Juggle with demo man I think is inescapable?
hey, at least its safe on block.
i actually got this very consistently back in the t4 days. it got easier with time.
Hey just recently just got my kazuya to orange ranks
Its not just tekken 4, its damn near impossible on the arcades (tt2) too. I can still do it tho, not that consistently
Oh yeah, I could never pull that off. Same with Lee's f+ 3,3,3, before they changed it in 5 to where you could just mash it
Tekken 4 had the best stages
As a Paul main and as weird as it sounds I could do demo man in tekken 4 but till this day I can't do the ultimate punishment 😔
TMM i can’t seem to find a TEKKEN 4 vid of Hwoarang doing a just frame sky rocket, he’s my main and T4 is my favourite in the series and i never knew about it in here !! is there any way you can demo it??