I (how do I say this delicately) had a little “holiday” in HMP Brixton as a younger man. If you got to see the doctor, you’d be taken to the hospital wing. In the main waiting area, the main clock from Newgate hung on the wall. A brass plaque under it read how it was salvaged when Newgate was demolished. Grim looking thing.
I grew up in the shadow of Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, Pa. It was inspired by Victorian prisons like Newgate. I’ve visited it and it’s just as cold, quiet and foreboding as it was back when it was an active prison. Thanks for the cool history Rich!
I've toured two former prisons, Alcatraz and Kilmainham Gaol, as well as some parts of San Quentin which is very much still in service. Fascinating to learn so much about Newgate, and my thanks for another fascinating history lesson, Mr. Jones!
Thank you for a very interesting video. My 4x great grandfather was a prisoner there in May 1826 while awaiting trial at the Old Bailey (the previous one) for larceny. He was acquitted and died the following January. I'm guessing the trial and prison conditions broke him.
The typical postcard verse "wish you were here" made my day!😂 Also, in my U.S A , "old buildings are only about 200 years old. My jaw dropped when you mentioned the prison having been around for 700 years!😮
Thank you for another interesting video Mr. Jones. Question: I can see that you wrote a text on the homepage about the alleged murders in Managua, Nicaragua in 1889, which have been speculated to be committed by JTR, but I can’t find a video about it. If you haven’t made a video about the theory it would be tremendously interesting to hear your take on it. Kind regards, /Legionmint.
The first street in Antigua Westindies when you get off your cruise ship is Newgate street. Actually, you went up Nelson ally first. Little Nel as he was known, would turn right and go up to the cathedral, convicts turned left to Newgate prison.
Newgate Prison was a prison at the corner of Newgate Street and Old Bailey Street just inside the City of London, England, originally at the site of Newgate, a gate in the Roman London Wall. Built in the 12th century and demolished in 1904, the prison was extended and rebuilt many times, and remained in use for over 700 years, from 1188 to 1902.
Did they reuse any of the stone work for building the Old Bailey? The reason I ask is because the lower courses of its wall have a vague resemblance to those of Newgate....
Thank you Richard, that was most fascinating story about Newgate. One of my questions you already answered to a poster here about what they used the granite blocks for afterwards. Is it correct Richard, that i remember when the original London Dungeons opened in Tooley Street, they had a wooden door from Newgate Prison, i just wondered if you were aware? I used to live near Archway in Holloway and there is the Whittington Hospital and plenty of stuff about Dick Whittington especially at Highgate Hill. Thanks again Richard, so much yet to still learn. 😊
I think they might have done, although to be honest I am not certain. I know The London Museum had one of the cells, and the whipping block. I also forgot to include the fact that one of the doors ended up as the door to a Scottish castle!
Amazing info about the Scottish Castle having one of the doors, cheers! And also thanks for the info about the London Museum, What really surprises me Richard, that as you stated Newgate was also a debtors prison, and I believe unless someone came along and paid your Debt, there wasn't much chance of getting out. Just think about it now though Richard as we are a society that most of us are in some form of debt, most of us would be in Newgate now! 😅
It depends on the era, as the number of capital crimes were slowly reduced in the 1800s. Treason, arson, pickpocketing, cutting down trees, stealing horses, stealing livestock, grand larceny, gay s'x, wearing a disguise whilst committing a crime, poaching, shoplifting, forgery and counterfeiting (before 1832), espionage, piracy, r'pe. Prior to 1861, 220 crimes were eligible for capital punishment
As is being proved in Scandinavian countries, loss of freedom should be the punishment. There is no need for inhumane, sadistic, dangerous etc conditions for the incarcerated.
No prison is or ever was "hell on earth"- judging by their large populations. A place such as Newgate, and countless others should be empty, as a result of the sheer fear of being an inmate. And yet they're full. I don't get it, but offer no sympathy for the past or presently.
You need to read more...over half of the population of prisons in the 17th and 18th century were there over trivial debts. Added to this was the Bloody Code which punished trivial offences with harsh sentences or death.
A person who proudly states they have absolutely no insight or understanding. Not surprised you don’t get it. Desperate people can do desperate things. Try this - It is 1820 and you are 12 years old, starving, living on the streets since both your parents died of tuberculosis. You are caught stealing a loaf of bread. Any idea what the penalty for that was?
@@paulannable3734 Probably a workhouse with a bowl of gruel at least once a day. You had to dig all the way back to the 1800's to virtue signal me into feeling bad? Nice try. Epic fail though.
I (how do I say this delicately) had a little “holiday” in HMP Brixton as a younger man. If you got to see the doctor, you’d be taken to the hospital wing. In the main waiting area, the main clock from Newgate hung on the wall. A brass plaque under it read how it was salvaged when Newgate was demolished. Grim looking thing.
The "Wish you were here" remark warrants a like. Cheers.
I grew up in the shadow of Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, Pa. It was inspired by Victorian prisons like Newgate. I’ve visited it and it’s just as cold, quiet and foreboding as it was back when it was an active prison.
Thanks for the cool history Rich!
My pleasure. And, thanks for the info.
I've toured two former prisons, Alcatraz and Kilmainham Gaol, as well as some parts of San Quentin which is very much still in service. Fascinating to learn so much about Newgate, and my thanks for another fascinating history lesson, Mr. Jones!
The narrator’s voice is such a change from AI. Very interesting presentation . Thank you.❤❤❤
Oh yes xenia367! So nice to hear a real human voice! Thank you narrator, for the excellent presentation.
A great video Richard. My ancestor was there in 1830's as a bankrupt.
Thank you for a very interesting video.
My 4x great grandfather was a prisoner there in May 1826 while awaiting trial at the Old Bailey (the previous one) for larceny. He was acquitted and died the following January. I'm guessing the trial and prison conditions broke him.
The typical postcard verse "wish you were here" made my day!😂 Also, in my U.S A , "old buildings are only about 200 years old. My jaw dropped when you mentioned the prison having been around for 700 years!😮
Thank you for another interesting video Mr. Jones. Question: I can see that you wrote a text on the homepage about the alleged murders in Managua, Nicaragua in 1889, which have been speculated to be committed by JTR, but I can’t find a video about it. If you haven’t made a video about the theory it would be tremendously interesting to hear your take on it.
Kind regards,
/Legionmint.
That was ‘criminal’ tearing down that building! Would off made a great tourist attraction!
It would be flats now.
Thank you for this newest vid, Mr. Jones!
The first street in Antigua Westindies when you get off your
cruise ship is Newgate street. Actually, you went up Nelson ally first. Little Nel as he was known, would turn right and go up to the cathedral, convicts turned left to Newgate prison.
Newgate Prison was a prison at the corner of Newgate Street and Old Bailey Street just inside the City of London, England, originally at the site of Newgate, a gate in the Roman London Wall. Built in the 12th century and demolished in 1904, the prison was extended and rebuilt many times, and remained in use for over 700 years, from 1188 to 1902.
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A glimpse of a " gentler " time . Well done . Thank You .
Insightful and enjoyable as always 🍻
Did they reuse any of the stone work for building the Old Bailey? The reason I ask is because the lower courses of its wall have a vague resemblance to those of Newgate....
Yes, they incorporated some of the old stone into the new building.
Wow that was excellent,well told,well produced,thank you.
A Good Presentation as usual 👋 Richard🙂
I like this one , will watch tonight, thank you Richard 👍
Please do a video on the history on the "old bailey" (if you haven't done so already).
I agree it would have a great tourist attraction . Thanks for sharing your video.
The gallows apparatus was moved to Pentonville, when Newgate was closed and demolished.
Don't forget the old saying 'As black as Newgates knocker'
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent. Wonder where the "Deadman's Walk" is located now?
Deadmans walk is in the entrance hallway of the Old Bailey
That’s what a prison should be !!!
This is awesome to learn about 👍👍😀😀
Great stuff! :)
Thank you Richard, that was most fascinating story about Newgate. One of my questions you already answered to a poster here about what they used the granite blocks for afterwards.
Is it correct Richard, that i remember when the original London Dungeons opened in Tooley Street, they had a wooden door from Newgate Prison, i just wondered if you were aware?
I used to live near Archway in Holloway and there is the Whittington Hospital and plenty of stuff about Dick Whittington especially at Highgate Hill.
Thanks again Richard, so much yet to still learn. 😊
I think they might have done, although to be honest I am not certain. I know The London Museum had one of the cells, and the whipping block. I also forgot to include the fact that one of the doors ended up as the door to a Scottish castle!
Amazing info about the Scottish Castle having one of the doors, cheers! And also thanks for the info about the London Museum, What really surprises me Richard, that as you stated Newgate was also a debtors prison, and I believe unless someone came along and paid your Debt, there wasn't much chance of getting out. Just think about it now though Richard as we are a society that most of us are in some form of debt, most of us would be in Newgate now! 😅
I feel rather nostalgic about this.
Was you an inmate?!
Other than murder what else was a hanging offense?
It depends on the era, as the number of capital crimes were slowly reduced in the 1800s.
Treason, arson, pickpocketing, cutting down trees, stealing horses, stealing livestock, grand larceny, gay s'x, wearing a disguise whilst committing a crime, poaching, shoplifting, forgery and counterfeiting (before 1832), espionage, piracy, r'pe.
Prior to 1861, 220 crimes were eligible for capital punishment
Very interesting.
The good ole days?
I don’t think so!
I didn't realise there were photos of this evil dump! Interesting, can't imagine how terrible it must have been to be an inmate......
As is being proved in Scandinavian countries, loss of freedom should be the punishment. There is no need for inhumane, sadistic, dangerous etc conditions for the incarcerated.
I was ther 90-ot8. It was cold and grim
Pirate Captain William Kidd.
Michel Berrett was the last to be executed outside newgate prison? I hope it was for writing , The Diary of Jack the Ripper... lol
If only!
@@JackTheRipperTours LMAO....
Jack the Ripper might have been a prisoner at Newgate.
Stuarts Era 1603-1714.
Georgian Era 1714-1837.
Victorian Era 1837-1901.
It looks like the majority of Victorian prisons.
No prison is or ever was "hell on earth"- judging by their large populations. A place such as Newgate, and countless others should be empty, as a result of the sheer fear of being an inmate. And yet they're full. I don't get it, but offer no sympathy for the past or presently.
You are a sociopath.
You need to read more...over half of the population of prisons in the 17th and 18th century were there over trivial debts. Added to this was the Bloody Code which punished trivial offences with harsh sentences or death.
A person who proudly states they have absolutely no insight or understanding. Not surprised you don’t get it. Desperate people can do desperate things.
Try this - It is 1820 and you are 12 years old, starving, living on the streets since both your parents died of tuberculosis. You are caught stealing a loaf of bread. Any idea what the penalty for that was?
@@paulannable3734 Probably a workhouse with a bowl of gruel at least once a day. You had to dig all the way back to the 1800's to virtue signal me into feeling bad? Nice try. Epic fail though.
@@smorgasbroad1132People’s only crime back then was starving to death. Your lack of conscience is no one else’s problem but your own.