Few years ago, when the Roma (Gypsy) Taxi driver in Frankfurt to my amazement almost understood my conversation with my wife in the native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state in India, I decided to work on this and find out how.
Since the Taxi Driver understood the language of Rajasthan, I went through the history of Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was originally called and discovered that there was a huge exodus of the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan around 1050 AD who ,as the history says, fought 17 wars with Mohammed Ghauri. Most left with women folks leaving empty villages. Most Roma belong to the fine Rajput warrior caste and others were farmers called Jat who also were in the army.
While the great king was keen on continuing battles, many soldiers did not want to fight more wars and stayed at home. For a Rajput staying at home during war was a stigma. They were taunted for staying home at the time of war.
Therefore, as a folk song of Rajasthan says, they left their native land in groups. They left from no other part of India. Some went west and are called Gypsies or Roma now and some went down to south India where they still are in their red and yellow color clothes and with huge mustache. You can see them on google by clicking "Lambada in south India". I am from Rajasthan but live in south Indian city of Hyderabad and hence see Lambadas daily.
I was further shocked again when our Gypsy (Lambada) maid mostly understood an old Hungarian Roma lady talking in Romani about Nazi atrocities on a BBC program on TV while I understood it by reading the English captions. Apparently, the two ladies 9000 miles away now spoke same language spoken about 1000 years ago in their land of origin. We being from Rajasthan still use many of their words.
On the way to west, Roma took words from Persian like bibi and many other tongues including Greek (drost for road) and from Armenian and so on. Also, few joined them on the way from Sindh, another Indian province,now in Pakistan. They are still called Sinti within Roma and words like laklo, lakli, chavo are from Sindhi.
They somehow lost their surnames of fine Rajput warrior clans. Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia, Chauhan ,Shekhawat, Nainavat Rathore, etc. But they kept first Indian names until 19th century like Amos Bihari and his daughter Panna Cinkova, both great Roma musicians from Hungary. Panna meaning Emerald is a pure Rajasthani name not used in other parts of India. You may look in Google for “Panna Cinka ". If they were not Indians, why otherwise would they have Indian names in Europe in the year 1711?
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani (or Marwari) and Hindi, both of Sanskrit origin. Few are ek do trin nak(nose) bal(hair)angusth(finger) bersh(year) diwas(day) sassusussro ( mother and father in law, from rajasthani) saaloSali (brother and sister in law from Rajasthani) chora(boy) chori(girl) cior(chor, meaning thief)) gia sov, thalle, upralpurano (old ), dukh, kasht, tato, langhal(lame) maang, des, lajja and so on. About half are from Rajasthani and Hindi both of which originate from Sanskrit. I know hundreds. There are thousands. Luis Mori, another Roma has sent me a huge list of Romani words which I match with my Roma maid's vocabulary. Sometimes grammar has changed to European style, like we would say sov gia and Roma would say gia sov. Same meaning though. Has slept. Also, all Indian languages including today's Rajasthani has two yous, one for Junior and one for senior. Romani and the language of Lambada even today have only one you which is "tu" used for Juniors and for very close ones which must have been so 1000 years ago.
Romani words are from pre-Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit like hiv(him in Sanskrit) for snow or ice is used while we in India now say barf which is Persian. Please go to the following in TH-cam to see more. “Romani an Indian lost Language”th-cam.com/video/UJvn7nLeZaI/w-d-xo.html by Adriano, an Italian Roma from whom I have learned much and also“Roma girl from Kosovo goes to India.....”th-cam.com/video/q6HfenInNEA/w-d-xo.html
All Roma had mustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of Roma were till recently practiced in India like Roma breaking the plate if animal licked it. My mother used to give the plates to beggars if our dog ever licked it even once. Also, food once served on table but not eaten does not go back to Fridge or saved for eating later. That is why death rate within Roma during great European plague was so low as claimed by scholars.
Roma had also carried our proverbs like "while choosing a daughter in law, believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation of the girl's family was more important than her beauty. Another common proverb is "If the road is crooked, you can't walk straight."
Roma eventually lost their religion, quite understandably but Sara kali of southern France is a Hindu deity of Goddess kali favourite of Rajputs. The deity is immersed in water body every year like we do in India. The Vatican has not recognized this deity as it has no link to Christianity. Romani also has an unusual word"trishul" from Sanskrit and Hindi meaning a spear with three fingers. This spear is associated with Hindu God Mahadev or Shiva and the war cry of Rajputs Regiment in India till today is " Har har Mahadev".
Please see on You tube "Dr. Ian Hancock: Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference, UC Berkeley" th-cam.com/video/NTsqiP196Uw/w-d-xo.html. Dr. Hancock who is a Roma makes very scholastic analysis of Romani history from European side. He successfully dismantles myths like Roma are old Jews or from Egypt or came from within the earth. He establishes that Roma indeed came from India.However he has not said much about which part of India are they from and which language from India they speak. He only mentions "Indian Language" while there is nothing like Indian Language. We have hundreds of languages. India had hundreds of independent kingdoms. Rajputana, as Rajasthan was called then had many kingdoms too. Prithviraj Chauhan was the king of Ajmer in central Rajasthan from whose army Roma came.
He also links Romani with Sanskrit while truth is that Romani has words from Rajasthani and Hindi alone both of which originate from Sanskrit. Romani is made of languages which have Sanskrit base and directly from Sanskrit. There are many words in Romani which none else from India except those from Rajasthan will understand like tato meaning hot. He also says Roma are Doms who burn dead bodies which is certainly not true. Doms live about 1000 miles away from Rajasthan and are dark skinned.
Many Roma have come to Delhi and Jaipur in Rajasthan to get their DNA tested and were doubly assured of their Rajasthan roots. Also, one may see on TH-cam " Romani Dances in India-Kalbelia "th-cam.com/video/E-Y9sUl4i4Io/w-d-xo.htmlf Rajasthan which is same as Flamingo dance of the Roma. Even the dress of the dancers are same.
As a student in the US during seventies, I saw some slightly brown students speaking language somewhat familiar to me. They said they were new Roma migrants to the US from Spain but I did not know about Roma at that time.
I have received many mails from some Roma stating Roma were Doms and untouchables from India and so on. This should not be true. First, there are no Doms in Rajasthan. Second, Roma who came to south still have mostly Rajput surnames or "Gotras" and very few Bhil (a jungle tribe, but soldiers too) surnames. Gotras or lineages dont change in India. Third, down trodden and timid would not venture leaving home to travel thousands of miles and fourth, Doms are very dark even for Indian standards while Roma are not. Fifth, Romani has many war related words including a word for prisoner of war as Dr. Hancock says. Only a martial clan would use and keep alive these words.
There should be no doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena (We would say pra and behna). Hats off to them to keep the language and culture alive even after 50 generations while humanity in the entire world now melts away in two generations.
I am in contact with many European Roma from whom I gather some new facts time to time. I have also gathered the above information from history of Rajasthan.
Your elaboration appreciable, in today's atmosphere very few are interested in history of truth, many many postings are there only falsehood propaganda, I have come across many instances mentioned to be true, and appreciate the effort but our many fellow Indians are more on wrong quotings by unscrupulous, we cannot help it, those on such diet will come in line, if not, no problem, let them be. ........
We had a family of Romani in my neighborhood as a child. I went to school with two of them. The girl was distant but very beautiful. Her brother was deemed handsome by the girls and seemed very outgoing and pleasant. They seemed like perfectly normal to me and their parents were said to be good, hardworking people. It’s terrible when people are judged by their culture or the color of their skin. 😢
Human persecution anywhere is deplorable and should be stopped from the face of earth. Earth is everybody's and nobody has the right to own everything for oneself. .....
@Untold kaski san mush am pure black blood roma I find it hard to understand what you are saying I know you are only a little bit of us but the way you are talking about us is just the same as a racist gadji why
@Untold You can talk about race all day long, you don't even have to be right. You haven't been remotely racist as your words don't harbour prejudice or hatred, you're just speaking your mind and I encourage you to keep doing it. Race is such a massive focus right now and I can't go a day without hearing someone being accused of racism. From my experience, there are very few racists about, and anyone that is genuinely racist and hateful will rightfully be treated badly by society.
@Untold in a full blood roma .. so if you know the history of gypsies roma/romani than you would understand why .. first of al we were stolen from india by the ottoman empire and brought to europe as slaves and many rich Europeans buy them for slaves just as the balcks in the states.. so we the majority of us were brought to europe we didn't go there on are own and than Europeans killed us slaved us tourtured us burn us to death families killed.. this is the story so now i ask you who the f..k you wanna integrate?? To who ??? Be like the people who wanna see us dead and who did the mosy horror things to us ? You think the majority of you looks at us they friends ? Bcuz there are roma whose soo poor they have nothing to eat stoles a bread and they say ohhh criminal ohh my god etc .. the best part was 1940's for us roma ! When hitler wanted to earse us litterly ! Ever since than we are keeping the distance from Europeans! For more than thousand years they tourtured killed us ! .. the gypsy word original was used by Europeans to name us gypsies = dirty snd sick Untouchables thats just shows their mind set about us .. and not just us of course Europeans also loved the blacks natives jews latin americans ! And us the favorite the roma gypsies .. roma gypsies the most simple humans on earth if you dont accept us fine no problem just leave us alone .. if you respect us as humans beings than we gonna be your best friend ! .. you asking us to forget our history and be like you ! The enemy.. so no thanx were good we are the most poor but we are also the happiest .. shame on you for having roma blood and to say be like Europeans! Did you lost your mind ??? Anyways Europeans have their criminals as well .. Europeans mind is = be like us or suffer ! But dont be you f..k you and your whole nation and culture love our culture our language our everthing than !!! You can be a good human ! Dont enjoy life just work until you cant move or die !!! Than our governments gives your money back monthly that you !!! You! Worked all your life for so little just to have metarial things and a house lol .. thank you but nooo
A group of Indians escaped from India when Islamic people mughuls came to India and they killed thousand of hindus in India that time. Lots of Indians disappeared from India for their life. That why they are here. This is the history.
My heart cries for the Romas, the amount of persecutions they suffered is tremendous yet they desire to live and live with dignity. ❤ from 🇮🇳 Always love mother and motherland as thats our root.
I always felt that I had some gypsy or Indian blood. since I started traveling in India, I feel it more and more. it is known that the area in Slovenia where I live was inhabited by the Uskoks, who fled from east to west during the Turkish invasions of the Ottoman Empire. Gypsies were apparently also among them. most of the surnames in our village are still mostly Eastern - Serbian, Bosnian, Dalmatian. all end in ich. my ancestors also had that last name. It is entirely possible that there were gypsies among these refugees, and through them I inherited gypsy blood, which I strongly feel in myself.
Roma (Gypsies) originated in the Punjab region of northern India as a nomadic people and entered Europe between the eighth and tenth centuries C.E. They were called "Gypsies" because Europeans mistakenly believed they came from Egypt. This minority is made up of distinct groups called "tribes
I have always felt that I am Indian, since I was little and I used to go to the cinema with my parents to watch an Indian film, I noticed the linguistic similarities and I was surprised that I understood some Indian words, because they were found in our vocabulary that we spoke, parents my people had customs like those of the Indians, they ate with their hands, and we have a lot of customs similar to the Indians, this means that they have been preserved very well during such a long period of 1000 years, and now at my 60th birthday, I hope we will be recognized by the authorities Indians as a minority, we are lost by our country India!
As a gypsy who’s family came from russia this was very interesting we had to go through a lot and ppl don’t get us not all of us are bad we are slowly losing are heritage because we are tired of being attacked and it’s sad because yes there are bad gypsys but not all but we had no choice back then we had to survive but now because of that we are forced to lose everything we are
@@ryou8820 I do know lol it was fake tho just to make money I have family that I don’t deal with any more that still do it today and some of the stuff is simply scary if I think about it
ROMANI ARE BANJARA OF RAJASTHAN ( INDIA ) THEY USE , NAAK , KAAN , ....... ! WE INDIAN HINDU PEOPLE LOVE OUR ROMANI ( BANJARA ) PEOPLE . FROM RAJADTHAN , INDIA / BHARAT .
je sait pas si beaucoup sont aut courant mais tout le monde m'étant tout les tsiganes en un seul groupe (roms) alors quil existe deux histoires différentes celles des roms qui son originaires du Rajasthan est celle des sinti qui sont originaires du sindh( actuel pakistan
The world especially the European countries should be ashamed of themselves for discriminating & persecuting people that have darker complexion or looks or languages. We are all God’s children & we should love each other.
People are often racist jerks a lot of times. The arguments against the Romani people in Europe remind me of the arguments against Latin American people here in the United States
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 What are you trying to get at because, you really didn't tell me anything with your comment, it means nothing. Do explain or do you not have the capacity to explain anything behind your logic?
It make me so enraged that how much tourture they have to suffer, and how these uprooted people have to go through ethinic cleaning. So harsh of Europian kings!
Not matter where the ancient migrants come from, they are willing to contribute to Europe societies but just some minor Europeans discriminate them...cutting their employment opportunities... Its far away from peace and fair
The video is excellent, except that it uses " Roma" and " traveller" interchangeably... Travelers - from mostly the British Isles, are also called grpsies, but have a Celtic backround.... Romani, living in mostly Eastern Europe, the Balkans, Russia and Turkey, can trace their ancestry to India... The DNA and linguistics between the two groups is vastly different.
I never know about them Our text books can't discribe about them 99 percent Indians still don't know about them Feeling sad😟😞 Hope this BJP GOVERNMENT take care about them You're always welcome to your mother land brothers and sisters
I never thought one way or another about Roma, but I had a Romanian friend who spoke about them like filth. I don't know if I've ever heard someone so openly express such hatred for a group.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of problems. I used to be shocked by Eastern Europeans not liking them but then I realized Gypsy have issues. No problem with having some gypsy or Indian blood but I think they have been impacted by years of moving and running away. It seems like many structures are missing in their families. I feel for those of them who are law abiding citizens and want to just have a normal life. The reputation built by others is hurting them. Stealing and begging do not help you innthe long run. Their women beg while diguising as Arabs. When they have blue eyes, they claim a Muslim European country like Bosnia. I think it is really annoying especially in a country like Canada where they can receive proper help before starting a honest life and work. But they do not seem to like work. They may have Indian roots but arr nothing like Indians. Indians are hard working people and are usually amomg most successful immigrants.
@@BlackSeedOil20 lmfao we are 77 procent more likely to get denied for schooling,jobs and housing. we dont even have basic human rights in most countries. were racially profiled,beaten and hate crimed and even undergo pogroms and massacares which still have gone unpunished.
there were several. however due to fear of racism most including my family and relatives and all other rom i know hide their identity. theres an estimated 20-30 million roma worldwide.
Gypsies were Rajputs of Rajasthan and Punjab's region who leave India after the Delhi sultanate era. The clan system and worshiping the goddess both are comman in gypsies and Rajputs.
This west world lectures India about human rights. The Roma’s history speaks how humanity was crushed by those called themselves as civilised. Shame to mankind.
I’m adopted so I didn’t know exactly what I was but I found out through dna testing that I have Roma ancestry and the cutoff is around the world wars eras so I’m not exactly sure what happened but people try to dismiss my Romani ancestors when it’s likely due to the G word.
@@ROHITKumar-gl6mm 16 years back no body spoked for Romas origin and Balkan is isolated part , Romas need an ambasador à guide to get their rich culture back. As for me I learned a lot of things in short time I live in indian waves.
hello good afternoon and greetings from Spain! I have a couple of questions and I don't know if someone could help me, because sometimes I read that the Rajputs are not originally from India even though they are Kshatrias and then they also have the same origin with the Rajputs, the Banjaras and Jats? and in advance thank you very much and have a blessed day
This has been the modus operandi for revisionists for quite some time now. Calling every tribe/clan/Varna not originally belonging to India. If they are not originally from India, then why aren't there any Rajputs in their supposed original homeland? Even if they were fully driven out/migrated out of their homeland or just vanished, why aren't there any records of their existence outside of India? Indian historical texts from atleast a millenium before common era mention Rajputs. They are not related to Jats, who migrated to the northern part of India from around Sindh. Banjaras are the travellers who don't settle down and keep moving which is antithetical to what Varnashram aims for, i.e. building civilization. Both aforementioned communities are not even classified as Kshatriyas. So, not related to Rajputs.
@@ManuelV.K.R.S rajputs are kings in india in northern region, rajputs are very royal class in india..... And very much respected througout india bcoz of their bravery and kindness....
Referring to people is ‘exotic’ covers more brutal reality of racism. It is a kind of objectification of someone different (non white) that is still used today (in the usa, asian women are often called ‘exotic’) I am in a deep dive into SINTA and Romani history😊
Thank God for this video I was taught From my family throughout the years that we came To earth in a spaceship with Cadillac emblems on it from the planet Jupiter and Our God was Ronald McDonald
In German-speaking Europe, the self-designation is Sinti, in France Manush, while the groups of Spain, Wales, and Finland use Kalo/Kale (from kalo meaning "black" in Romani language). There are numerous subgroups and clans with their own self-designations, such as the Kalderash, Machvaya, Boyash, Lovari, Modyar, Xoraxai, Lăutari, etc. Roma is a term primarily used in political contexts to refer to the Romani people as a whole.] Rroma or Roma or Gypsy or Sinti I cannot be sure but from my experience she is a scam but not from the reason you think so but because probably her husband made it to do it I was a grant officers on few projets for Rroma inclusion. It was a hell for those who were implementing projects to achieve any sustainable results Rroma or Roma or Gypsy or Sinti I cannot be sure but from my experience she is a scam but not from the reason you think so but because probably her husband made it to do it I was a grant officers on few projets for Rroma inclusion. It was a hell for those who were implementing projects to achieve any sustainable results Still, some subgroups of Romani do not self-identify as Roma, therefore some scholars avoid using the term Roma as not all Romani subgroups accept the term. Using term Rroms for all people of the same race is the very manifestation of RACISM
Were i grow up our elders forbidden us of studie or talking about or asking questions about our origins they have a deep fear of finding out our origins I believe is because in the pass family's wor separated men from woman and send to colonys were they find themselves alone and abandoned without family in places they didn't even know were they wore .
One really bad thing they do is they disguise themselves before going to beg. In my Canadian city, the Romano women wear a scarf that makes them look like Muslims to beg in main street, in front of churches and mosques and even at highway exits. Begging is not the issues but why take others' identities?
@@ChroniclesOfIndia Still, they disguise themselves and completely claim regions they do not come from. The chronic begging on the street while claiming to be Arabs/or European Muslims lime Bosnians is wrong. Maybe they should claim their Indian heritage instead.
Firstly, genetics is a fairly new science. Before it appeared on the scene, no one really knew, except few and it wasnt backed by a lot of evidence, that Roma had Indian ancestry. People and even the Roma had all kinds of theories about their origins, since they didnt have any written history. And most of them still don't know it. Secondly, modern Roma follow various religions, even Islam and Christianity. And hence some of them are infact European muslims. They have been European longer than a lot of other ethnicities/people groups and a number of modern European nations. So they can be all that you mentioned except the Arab part, which, if it's true at all, is not good on their part and that totally justifies the everyday persecution faced by ALL OF THEM.
@@ChroniclesOfIndiaA small minority of Roma are Muslims but the ones I am talking about are not. The place a poor Muslim asks for help is not the street but the mosque. I asked them to go inside the mosque and ask help. The mosque determine their needs and ask them questions. But they usually do not want to go inside. Anyway, it is sad for them if they even think people will treat them better as Muslims.
@@BlackSeedOil20 Headscarfs have always been worn by Romani women..Until the mid 20th century they were also universally worn by Christian women in the Balkans, Eastern Europe and Greece, particularly in rural areas.. You will still see older ladies in these countries wearing headscarfs. & so what if it is a begging tactic used by some. It's a disgrace on society that people have to beg, and those rich religions who allow poverty while sitting on enormous wealth.
Finnish word for slave is Orja or arya. Finish took them as slaves i guess and hugarians became friends? Indian vedic lunar tribe Druhyu / druh/draug/drook means friend in slavic and balitic but its negative in India means a rebel or enemy and means other in croats/serbian. Some ancients rivalry and friendships and slavery right there preserved in languages.
Barát=friend/boyfriend Barátja=(someone's) friend It has nothing to do with Indian subtribes, it has slavic roots, most likely Croatian (brat->barát), which meant brother, and it has a common origin with other indo-european words meaning brother, like frater in Latin, Bruder in German, brother in English, bhai in Hindi etc. The other words are kinda interesting tho :D
@@ihavenoidea2736 may be baratja isn't but Druhyu is definitely related to Baltic slavic celtic Italic and germanic. Druh means army or people in old germanic. It is a recorded tribe in battle of ten kings. Last king of druhiyu tribe was Pracestas and interestingly it means an enemy in Lithuanian. Greeks croats bulgarians etc are not part of this tribe as per our tradition. Greeks were probably Alena a subclan of Anu tribe (proto iranian) whose priestly class was called Bhrigu/ atharvans. And incidently greek priestly class was called phlegua ie Bh=ph and R=L so Bhrigu, aka Phrygians. Druhiyu priests are called Druj and druhiyu in Avesta and Rig Veda aka druids.Druids of celts remember Bhrigu priestly class as goddess of learning or knowledge Brigitte.
Its not our fault that you have lost ur prehistory and historical records. We have linguistic and textual proof of germans and celts living near china in Bactria region. Many german and celtic word in old chinese /altaic/ yeneseian languages anf vice versa have been found by Gamkralitze and ivanov. And I am not even going into Hittites who are Mongoloid and their proto hittite kings and languages. I was just hinting that there are relations and contacts between these languages/people. Trust me we dont claim any of Europeans. They were barbaric pre vedic tribes that commited massacres in europe unlike vedic/iranian ppl who had code of warfare as recorded by megasthenies.
The gypsy people also migrated to China but few people know about it. Here's one interesting article from Chinadaily. Legendary gypsies once in China Liu Jun 2005-09-28 06:26 You may think of Carmen, a fickle girl in Georges Bizet's "Carmen," or Esmeralda, an incredible dancer in Victor Hugo's "Notre-Dame de Paris," when talking about gypsies. However, very few would imagine that this legendary people came to China once, believing that they stuck only to the roads of Europe. In fact, "Gypsies set foot on Chinese soil some 200 years earlier than on European soil. To be exact, during the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368) when they toured to Northwest China's Shaanxi and Gansu provinces," says Cai Hongsheng, a history professor from Sun Yat-sen University in South China's Guangdong Province. Back then, gypsies were called Luoli in Chinese. Cai noted that the name originally came from Persia, where gypsies arrived in the fifth century. He made reference to a paper by Yang Zhijiu, a historian at Nankai University, who died in 2002 at the age of 87. Yang was an expert on the Yuan Dynasty and Hui history. In his paper entitled "Gypsies in China's Yuan Dynasty Luri Huihui" published in 1991, Yang wrote: "These nomadic people, called 'Luoli' in Chinese with the similar pronunciation as 'Luri,' came to northern China's Shaanxi and Gansu in the 13th century, before they arrived in Europe around the 15th century, where they remain as gypsies today." Yet, "The name Luoli in Chinese or Luri in Persian is different from either Gypsy in English or Bohemian in French. Either Gypsy or Bohemian is a derogatory name for it contains a connotation of scorning their wandering lifestyle," Yang wrote in the paper. However, Cai pointed out that Yang didn't provide answers to pending questions such as where the gypsies came from? Where else had they been? And do Luoli remain in China today? Regrettably, no more records have been found as yet in order to help answer these questions. Yang's studies unfortunately came to an end when he died in 2002. Another essay by Li Hao, an official from Yunnan Province who is also interested in the subject, described the Luoli's lifestyle patterns around Dali, a scenic spot in Yunnan, during the end of the Yuan to the early Ming Dynasty (1368-1644). In Li's essay, Dali was then an important gateway of cultural exchange and trading with southeastern Asian countries, and those from India, Persia, and the Luoli, named as "Moluo" in southwest China. Similar to how gypsies are depicted in films and on stage, Li described how the Luoli would sing and dance in the streets, or sell herbs and practise fortune telling to make a living. It was believed that the Gypsies also made money by singing and dancing. They created more than 100 songs during their stay in Dali. "Those songs were sung in Chinese, indicating that Luoli gradually adopted Han culture, and successfully found a way to make a living," says Cai. Furthermore, it also suggested that the Luoli's performances were well accepted by local people. "Without large audienc
Circumstance often dictates behavior. My experience with Roma is that they are seen as pick pockets and thieves. I knew one Roma woman in Seattle who managed a fall at the place she was renting. She sued the owner and collected hundreds of thousands in support while pretending to be crippled as a result of the fall. I also knew a Roma family in Vegas that were fortune tellers and fake psychics among other things. A bad reputation yes. Is it because of the few or the many in Roma society ? What is your experience.
@@AA-dt9he that is the problem with some Indians . We are not ready to stand up for Hindus in pakistan and bangladesh let alone Romanis . Romani people did not go there for picnic , they were persecuted and forced to live like gypsies for about 800 years . Hitler kille over a million Romanis . Only India is the homeland of Romani people . If they want to come we should welcome them . They have the samne blood like us .
@@jaysonjayasheelan7797 we had migration out of India several times in ancient India . Rigvedic times war of Dasraja where defeated people moved to Persia and then Europe . You van see Mittani kingdom in Syria and turkey . Present day Yezidis follow similacr culture to Hindus . Roman god Jupiter , Greek god Zeus and Viking god Thor are the european veraikn of Indra the god of Thunder .
Well this leaves me a bit wondering, because old Gypsys would have told you another story. Infact a lot of them would be furious if you called them a Roma. Its not that you are lying or anything about their origins in fact that is more or less exactly what is/was passed on trough the generation. But or at least so it is described the Term Roma was first used by Gypsys after the ottoman empire for mostly Romanian and bulgarian people who went with them further to middle europe. They (Roma) are far more open about heir culture and language, which is why their is far more known about them. There is also a huge difference in the language Romani which is the language of Romas but there is also the far less known language of Romeness.
@@richardboswell9306 maybe you should read my comment again, maybe you are an old roma but i never said that romas would speak anything other then romani. I very much said that it is the language of a Roma. But there definetly is another language cause i speak it, only shows that you maybe not know as much as you belive.
When Roma Gypsies first came to Europe in Greece, they were known as "Egyptians" due to their "says" or stories that claimed that they came from Little Egypt and where originally slaves of the Egyptian Pharaohs. We called us Roman Egyptians ,becose EGYPT was part of Roman empire ,ROMAN REPUBLIC . In Greece the called us ROMANO GITANOS- ROMAN EGYPTIAN- ROMA GYPSY ....How did Egypt become Roman? . The rich lands of Egypt became the property of Rome ,Roman republic ,after the death of Cleopatra VII in 30 BCE, which spelled the end of the Ptolemaic dynasty that had ruled Egypt since the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BCE. After the murder of Gaius Julius Caesar in 44 BCE, the Roman Republic was left in turmoil. (32-30 BC) was the last civil war of the Roman Republic, fought between Mark Antony (assisted by Cleopatra and by extension Ptolemaic Egypt) and Octavian. In 32 BC, Octavian convinced the Roman Senate to declare war on the Egyptian queen Cleopatra
Found out about the domani and romani people they migrated from rajasthan right, they were sanskrit speaking people, there is a story that there is a city where brahmins used to stay and a whole village just went away because there was a landlord cruel one and old person asked for a young girl, so the whole village detested the land lord and vanished in one night, so the village is cursed and no one lives there so where did the village people go away so this is the link where the people went they took carriages and went to the foreign lands it is them for sure 100% as they speak distorted sanskrit. the whole link is here.
They're Irish travellers and not Romani. While "gypsy" is a term used for both these groups and loan words being interchangeably used in their languages due to their long history of migration and coming into contact with each other but they are distinct people groups.
@@ChroniclesOfIndia I think they come from both. In the show they describe themselves as Romani and even speak Romani, although not very accurate. I believe their father was Roma and their mother was Irish traveler or the other way around.
He's not a Roma. He ancestry is from "Irish Travellers". They are also called gypsies which they don't like! They are a different ethnic group to the Roma and have nothing to do with India.
Their migration is fairly recent and there aren't enough contemporary records about their migration for them to be identified as purely Aryan or purely Non Aryan tribes.
Yes gypsies are descendant of Aryans. Only the people of Indian subcontinent and Iran are real Aryans , it does not mean white race , it means noble human . Which is ths characteriatic of Hindu Dharma , Indian was called Aryavarta , means land of Aryans .
Romani people are actually people of Indus Valley, who ran away from their ancestral land towards Europe through Iran and Turkey due to continuous attacks of horse mounted robbers across Hindu Kush mt. from central asia, in 11th. century, particularly Mahmud of Gazna, now in Afghanistan. They are Sindhi from Sindh, now in Pakistan. They themselves claim to ba called as Sinti means Sindhi. Their language is an outdated version of Sindhi language. Kolachi clan, city of Karachi belongs to them they now auction their daughters in Bulgaria, but to only other Kolachi.
No Prof we are from rajasthan we were warriors who fought 17 battles without losing and decided to leave followed mongols across the plains fighting as we went
@@richardboswell9306 You must be an other professor, I wonder! Rajasthan, before Bin Qasim was part of Sindh and Indus Valley and its rulers were of Rai clan, originally Jats of Jaisalmer, now in Rajasthan, Bharat. (India is a separate disputable term.) Arora was their capital, wherefrom they used to rule. The after effects of the site are still present near Rohri, in district of Sukkur in Sindh, not in Bharat. Rajasthan is greatly based on the desert of Thar and half of Thar desert is lying in Sindh. You may be not, but some of you calling themselves as Sinti are from Sindh and Kolachi is a famous Sindhi clan in Sindh. The city of Karachi belongs to them. Kindly introduce me your whereabouts fully.
Rajasthan is too broad a term and too vast a region for it to be clumped together with Sindh. Brahmin/Chach dynasty was ruling Sindh for atleast 8 decades before bin Qasim (and even after that) but your cherrypicking to exaggerate the prominence of Rai dynasty (only because they were supposedly Jats) who ruled for only 4 decades and ruled only parts of western Rajasthan is understandable. You must be some professor, professor!
we don't go from door to door stealing pickles and .......... stealing oil ....... you will enter my house and steal oil ........ we don't go over ... door to door picking their clothes and stealing their ...inner wears ........ ....... dogs .... of Tamil ......
India is the homeland of humanity and Sanskrit is the mother father and grandfather of all languages and religion. during the ancient times there were so many airports in India and airplanes were basically invented by Vishwakarma India had aircraft companies like Lockheed Martin and Airbus. Urine of cow was generally considered sacred and taken in all occasions along with little cow dung for breakfast. Both in the period of Ramayana and Mahabharata India had the capability of launching nuclear missiles known as Brahmastra even today the desserts of Sahara and in the mounds of Mohenjo Daro radiation is still measured high these were the places the popular wars were fought.
We are very different from Indian people even the language is different in our beliefs are totally different we believe in God only no idols no statues I speak for all Gypsy people I know because I am full blooded gypsy
@@easwaransanthakumar297 he may not be a real romani but someone with propoganda against India (look how he talks about idol worship). If you reply with hate, his purpose is served.
My sme vyvolený národ-sme stratené kmene z Izraela-z nás pochádzajú všetky národy -Starý zákon píše len o gypsy a židoch-v biblii máme stovky gypsy slov -napríklad manro-chlieb -parašťu-piatok-meriba-omša--múlo-mrtvý a atak ďalej .
You are a Gypsy this tells a lot about you. We Sinti people are not Gypsies. 88% of our Sinti language have Indian Origin. If you dont have Indian vocabularies than you are unable to speak your language.
You are totally ignorant about Indian practices. In North India people are prohibited from marrying into their own gotra ( if that is what you are calling a clan) . The idea is to marry as far away as possible so that genetic diversity is maintained.
Endogamy mentioned in the video refers to the caste and tribe based endogamy. Nothing to do with gotra. A clan is loosely defined in this context. Like Kshatriya is a varna, within which lies a people group called Rajputs. Now you may choose to call it a tribe or a clan. But then Rajputs are settled all over North, East, Central and even southern India. Now for a Rajput living in say Himachal, endogamy would be to marry a Rajput girl from Himachal. And marrying a Rajput girl from UP would still be exogamy. So that is how endogamy is practiced on various levels. And you seem too naive to dish out general statements about the whole of North India. Please try to read and learn more before resorting to namecalling. Thanks.
Very interesting video. First time I saw these nicely dressed gypsies on the roads and begging in Rome, Italy and was intrigued. I have lived in Hungary for a year and saw many of these gypsy groups. Hungarians also believe that the origin of these people is from India. I have been quite querious about this community, and have seen a film about their life, confined in a autonomous state, somewhere in eastern europe. They are a happy-go getter community and believe in eat-drink-dance. When run out of money sneak into western europe, go begging, stealing, road side robbery, etc. Hungarian govt tried hard to civilize them but of no use. It is hard to change the genes.
I have seen some films too. It shows proofs of white cops filing fake accusations of theft, robbery etc., on Gypsies. What more can we expect from coloniser mindset, right? They never lose that genes. Afterall bible old testament is their guide.
tento dokument je falošný. Gypsy roma nepoznajú indickú krvavú Sáru--naša Sára je kresťanka. A Gypsy sú stratené kmene z Izraela...Naša kultúra je napísaná v Starom zákone dokonca aj stovky slov máme v biblii,,,,,
*The Romani and the present Aryan Brahmins of India are the same people. Do research on this. The Romanis should hereafter call themselves Romani Brahmins. Infact the Romanis are more pure Brahmins than the Aryan Brahmins of India because the Indian Aryan Brahmins @ Indian Romanis have interbreed with the native indigenous people of Indian Peninsula when they migrated into India from khazar region. The Indian Romanis @ Aryan Brahmins maternal DNA @ Mitochondrial DNA is not original Romani but native indigenous Indian. The present Indian Romani Brahmins are only Romani from the paternal side. The real original Romanis are the ones scattered all over Europe. Even the Romani language is directly connected to the vedic sanskrit language. The most revered gods of the Brahmins lord Rama and lord Brahma @ Abraham are themselves Romas. Roma@Rama. The Aryan Brahmins of India, the khazarian & ashkenazi Jews of Israel are the same people @ Romanis. Romanis are the real true Aryan Brahmins @ jews. Please do a video on this.👍*
It takes some mental gymnastics to compare two hypothesized migrations more than two and a half millenia apart. But in this day and age, Huxley stands vindicated.
Connected(your second reply) != Same people (your first reply) As for connected, most of us share some part of our DNA with most other people, doesnt mean we all are the "same people".
@@davidhorvath9977 they have their own culture now. They are like the african americans, their roots are africans but they don't have tribal african culture, they have their own culture, but the roots are still the same. Same things with gypsyes, they have indian origins but different culture
How stupidity ! Are they called "Roma" or "Romani" in english ?! Make up your own mind about this nonsense. It is clear that "Roma" or "Romani" are words invented or deformed in a political, occult sense, to create confusion with other peoples. These nomadic Indians have nothing to do with the Roman Empire, the city Roma in Italy or the country Romania ! In fact, the original words are "dom" or "lom" in another dialect, not rom. I honestly don't understand why they are not simply and correctly called ,,Indians" or something related to India, if the old name of gypsies is no longer used.
Where has it been implied in the video that they are related to Roman Empire? Was there even a single mention of the Roman empire in the video? And is it Italy or Italia?! Make up your own mind about this nonsense. Also, they didn't call themselves Roma, they were not called Roma/Romani when/before they migrated, which most probably is a phonological change caused by the eastern European languages. I know it's a lot to expect from a seething nincompo*p but please think before you around shi*ting all over the internet.
@@ChroniclesOfIndia It would be good to have a civilized dialogue. I wrote Italy because I wrote in English man, what don't you understand?! Of course you didn't mention the Roman Empire in this video, but please read what I wrote. It can be very easily confused with the Roman Empire or others, that's what I wanted to say.
Did we give them the name "Roma" or "Romani"? If not how did this make us or the video nonsensical? No one's relating them to the Roman empire, atleast not the ones who care to read/learn with an open mind keeping aside their prejudices and preconceived notions. And if your civilized discussion starts with calling someone stupid, then you're just another POS my friend. Thanks!
@@ChroniclesOfIndia You mistranslated bro. No problem calling you "stupid", on the contrary, I really enjoyed your video. I wrote the expression "How stupid" (with Google translate, I don't know English very well) which refers to the fact that there are 2 words for the same ethnicity and it is not clear which one is the correct one. The IDEA itself is stupid, not you as a human!!! I know that the 2 expressions (Roma and Romani) appear in English, that's what I wanted to say, the one who invented 2 words instead of one made a mistake, you just took it as they appear, it's not your fault. A good day !
ALL of Europe was populated FROM India. 10,000 years ago was ice age in Europe. 5000 years ago was the great Mahabhatat WAR. Every war make people move away from the war torn area. Similarly the people of North India moved to present day Persia, then spread to Greece. Many Greek stories are similar to those of India. Study them carefully and see the similarity. The names of the characters are different now. Whole of Europe was settled like this. Their EGO is too big to admit being from India. India is regarded as dirty, poor, uneducated. This was the result of infighting and Mogul rule. The world is being educated now through videos like this.
No, in fact India was populated from Europe. Half of India are indigenous, the other half migrated from modern day Ukraine, Russia and the surrounding places. Aryan groups like persians, Hindustanis, Kashmiris, Sindhis, Punjabis, Bangladeshis, Sinhalese people, and even Roma are originated from the same people as Italians, Germans, Frenchmen, Englishmen, Spaniards, Russians, Norwegians, Ukrainians, Greeks, Albanians, Armenians and so many more, they all were in fact white. So yeah, today northern India's population is of white heritage, also the population in Persia. Even the Vedas, even the Ramayana and the Mahabharata were written by white aryans coming from Eastern Europe. The similarities between Indian and Greek legends and stories, the polytheism etc (and not only present in Indian and ancient Greek cultures but also in ancient persian, latin, ancient slavic, ancient norse, ancient german and ancient baltic cultures) also doesn't mean that Europe is populated by Indians, but rather a common origin. We are not your descendants, also you are not our descendants, but we both are descendants of an older people group which broke into many parts. Ancient European indigenous peoples (like etruscans, Iberians, Illyrians and etc) didn't come from India, but from Africa and the Middle East. Also we have some non-indo-european people groups here, like Finns, Estonians, Hungarians, Gagauzians, Turks, Tatars, etc but neither of these come from India, but from different parts of Siberia. So basically the only people group that are present in Europe and are direct descendants of Indian people groups are the Roma.
@@arvindthakur6921 well... Brahmans were basically the nobility. It was all white people (who later mixed with brown people, creating the modern-day Northern Indian society). So yeah, Maharishi Valmiki was a brahman, therefore a white man.
I am amazed over ignorance of people on the planet about Sindh, the ancient valley of River Indus. Greeks with Alexander the great gave it the name of "India", the land on the banks of River Indus, not Bharat or Hindusan, some 23 centuries ago and remained in tact for next 10 centuries. Greeks never went to Bharat or Hindustan, at all! Things started changing after the conquest of Arabs in the 8th century. They went upto Multan only. Otherwise whole of Punjab and Kashmir were parts of Greater Sindh!! Punjabi or Kashmiri languages are nothing but varients/dilects of the vast Sindhi Language! This provided opportunity to the horse mounted Central Asian savages for the attacks and occupation, starting from Mahmood of Gazni of Afghanistan in 11th. century. Today, Pakistan is nothing but the extension of that process of occupation continued to date!
On 6 May, one time per year we celebrate fire ceremony , we collect flowers and throw them to the lake as a ritual bath, in the entry of houses we hang willow tree plant against the fever. . Simmilaire to Lori and sinjara festival.
Few years ago, when the Roma (Gypsy) Taxi driver in Frankfurt to my amazement almost understood my conversation with my wife in the native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state in India, I decided to work on this and find out how.
Since the Taxi Driver understood the language of Rajasthan, I went through the history of Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was originally called and discovered that there was a huge exodus of the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan around 1050 AD who ,as the history says, fought 17 wars with Mohammed Ghauri. Most left with women folks leaving empty villages. Most Roma belong to the fine Rajput warrior caste and others were farmers called Jat who also were in the army.
While the great king was keen on continuing battles, many soldiers did not want to fight more wars and stayed at home. For a Rajput staying at home during war was a stigma. They were taunted for staying home at the time of war.
Therefore, as a folk song of Rajasthan says, they left their native land in groups. They left from no other part of India. Some went west and are called Gypsies or Roma now and some went down to south India where they still are in their red and yellow color clothes and with huge mustache. You can see them on google by clicking "Lambada in south India". I am from Rajasthan but live in south Indian city of Hyderabad and hence see Lambadas daily.
I was further shocked again when our Gypsy (Lambada) maid mostly understood an old Hungarian Roma lady talking in Romani about Nazi atrocities on a BBC program on TV while I understood it by reading the English captions. Apparently, the two ladies 9000 miles away now spoke same language spoken about 1000 years ago in their land of origin. We being from Rajasthan still use many of their words.
On the way to west, Roma took words from Persian like bibi and many other tongues including Greek (drost for road) and from Armenian and so on. Also, few joined them on the way from Sindh, another Indian province,now in Pakistan. They are still called Sinti within Roma and words like laklo, lakli, chavo are from Sindhi.
They somehow lost their surnames of fine Rajput warrior clans. Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia, Chauhan ,Shekhawat, Nainavat Rathore, etc. But they kept first Indian names until 19th century like Amos Bihari and his daughter Panna Cinkova, both great Roma musicians from Hungary. Panna meaning Emerald is a pure Rajasthani name not used in other parts of India. You may look in Google for “Panna Cinka ". If they were not Indians, why otherwise would they have Indian names in Europe in the year 1711?
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani (or Marwari) and Hindi, both of Sanskrit origin. Few are ek do trin nak(nose) bal(hair)angusth(finger) bersh(year) diwas(day) sassusussro ( mother and father in law, from rajasthani) saaloSali (brother and sister in law from Rajasthani) chora(boy) chori(girl) cior(chor, meaning thief)) gia sov, thalle, upralpurano (old ), dukh, kasht, tato, langhal(lame) maang, des, lajja and so on. About half are from Rajasthani and Hindi both of which originate from Sanskrit. I know hundreds. There are thousands. Luis Mori, another Roma has sent me a huge list of Romani words which I match with my Roma maid's vocabulary. Sometimes grammar has changed to European style, like we would say sov gia and Roma would say gia sov. Same meaning though. Has slept.
Also, all Indian languages including today's Rajasthani has two yous, one for Junior and one for senior. Romani and the language of Lambada even today have only one you which is "tu" used for Juniors and for very close ones which must have been so 1000 years ago.
Romani words are from pre-Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit like hiv(him in Sanskrit) for snow or ice is used while we in India now say barf which is Persian. Please go to the following in TH-cam to see more. “Romani an Indian lost Language”th-cam.com/video/UJvn7nLeZaI/w-d-xo.html by Adriano, an Italian Roma from whom I have learned much and also“Roma girl from Kosovo goes to India.....”th-cam.com/video/q6HfenInNEA/w-d-xo.html
All Roma had mustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of Roma were till recently practiced in India like Roma breaking the plate if animal licked it. My mother used to give the plates to beggars if our dog ever licked it even once. Also, food once served on table but not eaten does not go back to Fridge or saved for eating later. That is why death rate within Roma during great European plague was so low as claimed by scholars.
Roma had also carried our proverbs like "while choosing a daughter in law, believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation of the girl's family was more important than her beauty. Another common proverb is "If the road is crooked, you can't walk straight."
Roma eventually lost their religion, quite understandably but Sara kali of southern France is a Hindu deity of Goddess kali favourite of Rajputs. The deity is immersed in water body every year like we do in India. The Vatican has not recognized this deity as it has no link to Christianity. Romani also has an unusual word"trishul" from Sanskrit and Hindi meaning a spear with three fingers. This spear is associated with Hindu God Mahadev or Shiva and the war cry of Rajputs Regiment in India till today is " Har har Mahadev".
Please see on You tube "Dr. Ian Hancock: Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference, UC Berkeley" th-cam.com/video/NTsqiP196Uw/w-d-xo.html. Dr. Hancock who is a Roma makes very scholastic analysis of Romani history from European side. He successfully dismantles myths like Roma are old Jews or from Egypt or came from within the earth. He establishes that Roma indeed came from India.However he has not said much about which part of India are they from and which language from India they speak. He only mentions "Indian Language" while there is nothing like Indian Language. We have hundreds of languages. India had hundreds of independent kingdoms. Rajputana, as Rajasthan was called then had many kingdoms too. Prithviraj Chauhan was the king of Ajmer in central Rajasthan from whose army Roma came.
He also links Romani with Sanskrit while truth is that Romani has words from Rajasthani and Hindi alone both of which originate from Sanskrit. Romani is made of languages which have Sanskrit base and directly from Sanskrit. There are many words in Romani which none else from India except those from Rajasthan will understand like tato meaning hot. He also says Roma are Doms who burn dead bodies which is certainly not true. Doms live about 1000 miles away from Rajasthan and are dark skinned.
Many Roma have come to Delhi and Jaipur in Rajasthan to get their DNA tested and were doubly assured of their Rajasthan roots.
Also, one may see on TH-cam " Romani Dances in India-Kalbelia "th-cam.com/video/E-Y9sUl4i4Io/w-d-xo.htmlf Rajasthan which is same as Flamingo dance of the Roma. Even the dress of the dancers are same.
As a student in the US during seventies, I saw some slightly brown students speaking language somewhat familiar to me. They said they were new Roma migrants to the US from Spain but I did not know about Roma at that time.
I have received many mails from some Roma stating Roma were Doms and untouchables from India and so on. This should not be true. First, there are no Doms in Rajasthan. Second, Roma who came to south still have mostly Rajput surnames or "Gotras" and very few Bhil (a jungle tribe, but soldiers too) surnames. Gotras or lineages dont change in India. Third, down trodden and timid would not venture leaving home to travel thousands of miles and fourth, Doms are very dark even for Indian standards while Roma are not. Fifth, Romani has many war related words including a word for prisoner of war as Dr. Hancock says. Only a martial clan would use and keep alive these words.
There should be no doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena (We would say pra and behna). Hats off to them to keep the language and culture alive even after 50 generations while humanity in the entire world now melts away in two generations.
I am in contact with many European Roma from whom I gather some new facts time to time. I have also gathered the above information from history of Rajasthan.
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Your elaboration appreciable, in today's atmosphere very few are interested in history of truth, many many postings are there only falsehood propaganda, I have come across many instances mentioned to be true, and appreciate the effort but our many fellow Indians are more on wrong quotings by unscrupulous, we cannot help it, those on such diet will come in line, if not, no problem, let them be. ........
Very informative. Thanks
Wow that was some amazing info about my ancestors, I am Roma living in San Francisco,CA USA. Thank you for filling in blanks
We had a family of Romani in my neighborhood as a child. I went to school with two of them. The girl was distant but very beautiful. Her brother was deemed handsome by the girls and seemed very outgoing and pleasant. They seemed like perfectly normal to me and their parents were said to be good, hardworking people. It’s terrible when people are judged by their culture or the color of their skin. 😢
there's something called "stats"
@@joejones9520 So provide them.
Thanks a lot. very appreciated.
Intresting, I subbed your channel.
Human persecution anywhere is deplorable and should be stopped from the face of earth. Earth is everybody's and nobody has the right to own everything for oneself. .....
@Untold kaski san mush am pure black blood roma I find it hard to understand what you are saying I know you are only a little bit of us but the way you are talking about us is just the same as a racist gadji why
Persecution on a general scale, I agree but calling out Roma that beg and steal are equally deplorable.
@Untold You can talk about race all day long, you don't even have to be right. You haven't been remotely racist as your words don't harbour prejudice or hatred, you're just speaking your mind and I encourage you to keep doing it. Race is such a massive focus right now and I can't go a day without hearing someone being accused of racism. From my experience, there are very few racists about, and anyone that is genuinely racist and hateful will rightfully be treated badly by society.
@Untold in a full blood roma .. so if you know the history of gypsies roma/romani than you would understand why .. first of al we were stolen from india by the ottoman empire and brought to europe as slaves and many rich Europeans buy them for slaves just as the balcks in the states.. so we the majority of us were brought to europe we didn't go there on are own and than Europeans killed us slaved us tourtured us burn us to death families killed.. this is the story so now i ask you who the f..k you wanna integrate?? To who ??? Be like the people who wanna see us dead and who did the mosy horror things to us ? You think the majority of you looks at us they friends ? Bcuz there are roma whose soo poor they have nothing to eat stoles a bread and they say ohhh criminal ohh my god etc .. the best part was 1940's for us roma ! When hitler wanted to earse us litterly ! Ever since than we are keeping the distance from Europeans! For more than thousand years they tourtured killed us ! .. the gypsy word original was used by Europeans to name us gypsies = dirty snd sick Untouchables thats just shows their mind set about us .. and not just us of course Europeans also loved the blacks natives jews latin americans ! And us the favorite the roma gypsies .. roma gypsies the most simple humans on earth if you dont accept us fine no problem just leave us alone .. if you respect us as humans beings than we gonna be your best friend ! .. you asking us to forget our history and be like you ! The enemy.. so no thanx were good we are the most poor but we are also the happiest .. shame on you for having roma blood and to say be like Europeans! Did you lost your mind ??? Anyways Europeans have their criminals as well .. Europeans mind is = be like us or suffer ! But dont be you f..k you and your whole nation and culture love our culture our language our everthing than !!! You can be a good human ! Dont enjoy life just work until you cant move or die !!! Than our governments gives your money back monthly that you !!! You! Worked all your life for so little just to have metarial things and a house lol .. thank you but nooo
A group of Indians escaped from India when Islamic people mughuls came to India and they killed thousand of hindus in India that time. Lots of Indians disappeared from India for their life. That why they are here. This is the history.
My heart cries for the Romas, the amount of persecutions they suffered is tremendous yet they desire to live and live with dignity.
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Always love mother and motherland as thats our root.
Bro we suffer here ..n they suffer there .. we were safe nowhere ..
I always felt that I had some gypsy or Indian blood. since I started traveling in India, I feel it more and more. it is known that the area in Slovenia where I live was inhabited by the Uskoks, who fled from east to west during the Turkish invasions of the Ottoman Empire. Gypsies were apparently also among them. most of the surnames in our village are still mostly Eastern - Serbian, Bosnian, Dalmatian. all end in ich. my ancestors also had that last name. It is entirely possible that there were gypsies among these refugees, and through them I inherited gypsy blood, which I strongly feel in myself.
Many thanks for this…
Roma (Gypsies) originated in the Punjab region of northern India as a nomadic people and entered Europe between the eighth and tenth centuries C.E. They were called "Gypsies" because Europeans mistakenly believed they came from Egypt. This minority is made up of distinct groups called "tribes
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you are so dumb I guess 😂
Very nice information packed video.
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I subscribed to this channel, 👍👍👍 and I am a gypsi , I hope you can do more videos like this about us and thanks a lot , greetings !
More love to you brother.
@@आयुषयादव-श7म God bless you !
Follow your original culture Hindhu 🙏🙏🙏
Antonio opreh roma pral
@@richardboswell9306 opre !!
😭😭how much torcher this people have from Europian people how cruel europian people are 😭😭
Neah they were very when they were slaves, it fit them perfectly. They are the people like those described by Aristotel, perfectly fitted for Slavery.
@@jonkeuviuhc1641time is powerful and one day european people will become slave for sure!
Yeah Rom, Roma, Romani, Dom, Doma, Domari, Lom, Loma, Or Lomari often get treated disgracefully and with bad tastes
I have always felt that I am Indian, since I was little and I used to go to the cinema with my parents to watch an Indian film, I noticed the linguistic similarities and I was surprised that I understood some Indian words, because they were found in our vocabulary that we spoke, parents my people had customs like those of the Indians, they ate with their hands, and we have a lot of customs similar to the Indians, this means that they have been preserved very well during such a long period of 1000 years, and now at my 60th birthday, I hope we will be recognized by the authorities Indians as a minority, we are lost by our country India!
We are free as birds, fire, water, wind, Dance... we are in every corner of the world but we are not Indians even though we are Family forever ❤️
Roma have indian origins, even their DNA Is, so they have indian roots, like It or not
As a gypsy who’s family came from russia this was very interesting we had to go through a lot and ppl don’t get us not all of us are bad we are slowly losing are heritage because we are tired of being attacked and it’s sad because yes there are bad gypsys but not all but we had no choice back then we had to survive but now because of that we are forced to lose everything we are
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So can you guys do black magic and curses and stuff ? I m interested
@@ryou8820 some do but I don’t believe in that
@@harrydemetro1935 ask your elders about your Heritage and what your ancestors did for occupation if possible
@@ryou8820 I do know lol it was fake tho just to make money I have family that I don’t deal with any more that still do it today and some of the stuff is simply scary if I think about it
ROMANI ARE BANJARA OF RAJASTHAN ( INDIA ) THEY USE , NAAK , KAAN , ....... ! WE INDIAN HINDU PEOPLE LOVE OUR ROMANI ( BANJARA ) PEOPLE . FROM RAJADTHAN , INDIA / BHARAT .
je sait pas si beaucoup sont aut courant mais tout le monde m'étant tout les tsiganes en un seul groupe (roms) alors quil existe deux histoires différentes celles des roms qui son originaires du Rajasthan est celle des sinti qui sont originaires du sindh( actuel pakistan
Very very interesting.
I am banjara living in central india.
The world especially the European countries should be ashamed of themselves for discriminating & persecuting people that have darker complexion or looks or languages. We are all God’s children & we should love each other.
Amen, much love and Gods blessing brethren
They have never been persecuted in their life! They suffer because they openly defy God!
People are often racist jerks a lot of times.
The arguments against the Romani people in Europe remind me of the arguments against Latin American people here in the United States
But roma to europeans are like what blacks to whites in usa
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 You're point?
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 What are you trying to get at because, you really didn't tell me anything with your comment, it means nothing.
Do explain or do you not have the capacity to explain anything behind your logic?
@robsu7377 or maybe u need capacity to understand what I am trying to say
It make me so enraged that how much tourture they have to suffer, and how these uprooted people have to go through ethinic cleaning. So harsh of Europian kings!
We still kinda go through it
@Harry Demetro why don't u come to India
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 were also europeans.
Keep on believing the lies!
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Not matter where the ancient migrants come from, they are willing to contribute to Europe societies but just some minor Europeans discriminate them...cutting their employment opportunities... Its far away from peace and fair
They prefer to not work they want to relly on welfare, and begging, its been 5 centuries and they re still the same, you cant change the genes
The video is excellent, except that it uses " Roma" and " traveller" interchangeably... Travelers - from mostly the British Isles, are also called grpsies, but have a Celtic backround.... Romani, living in mostly Eastern Europe, the Balkans, Russia and Turkey, can trace their ancestry to India... The DNA and linguistics between the two groups is vastly different.
"Travellers" has been used twice in the video. And not as a noun, but as an adjective. Thanks!
I never know about them
Our text books can't discribe about them
99 percent Indians still don't know about them
Feeling sad😟😞
Hope this BJP GOVERNMENT take care about them
You're always welcome to your mother land brothers and sisters
BJP is for Brahmin only
Wow! How much man is short of being human. Over the ages.
Damn learned something today.
I never thought one way or another about Roma, but I had a Romanian friend who spoke about them like filth. I don't know if I've ever heard someone so openly express such hatred for a group.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of problems. I used to be shocked by Eastern Europeans not liking them but then I realized Gypsy have issues. No problem with having some gypsy or Indian blood but I think they have been impacted by years of moving and running away. It seems like many structures are missing in their families. I feel for those of them who are law abiding citizens and want to just have a normal life. The reputation built by others is hurting them.
Stealing and begging do not help you innthe long run. Their women beg while diguising as Arabs. When they have blue eyes, they claim a Muslim European country like Bosnia. I think it is really annoying especially in a country like Canada where they can receive proper help before starting a honest life and work. But they do not seem to like work. They may have Indian roots but arr nothing like Indians. Indians are hard working people and are usually amomg most successful immigrants.
@@BlackSeedOil20 lmfao we are 77 procent more likely to get denied for schooling,jobs and housing. we dont even have basic human rights in most countries. were racially profiled,beaten and hate crimed and even undergo pogroms and massacares which still have gone unpunished.
Any attempt to take census of the Romani as a whole? Or an estimation of the same?
there were several. however due to fear of racism most including my family and relatives and all other rom i know hide their identity. theres an estimated 20-30 million roma worldwide.
Gypsies were Rajputs of Rajasthan and Punjab's region who leave India after the Delhi sultanate era.
The clan system and worshiping the goddess both are comman in gypsies and Rajputs.
I am Sinti there are Roma and Sinti , many people think Roma and Sinti are the same but its not even both get discriminated against with the G-Slur
@Janik Bily No I am Sinti, and we are not Romani, it is claimed by gypsylogists who are not Sinti, for the same gypsylogists Africa is a country.
Do you know who started calling them gypsies? The media did! Romani is made up word.
This west world lectures India about human rights. The Roma’s history speaks how humanity was crushed by those called themselves as civilised. Shame to mankind.
exactly! God havnt forsaken us its all in reason, purpose! much love
I’m adopted so I didn’t know exactly what I was but I found out through dna testing that I have Roma ancestry and the cutoff is around the world wars eras so I’m not exactly sure what happened but people try to dismiss my Romani ancestors when it’s likely due to the G word.
Namaste
Is there any immigration vers balkan during guptas empire if yes in wich century?
Because my self I come from Majhguptas small community.
May be possible because Gupta Empire wasthe golden period of Indian history .
We have trade relation with Roman empire for centuries .
@@ROHITKumar-gl6mm
In my community we make question do you speak majha instead of asking do you speak roma language .
@@sweetflower55 no I can't speak Roma language ,
I am a Native Hindi speaker.
@@sweetflower55 I have seen videos where Roma people can understand Hindi words and Hindi speakers can understand Romani words .
@@ROHITKumar-gl6mm
16 years back no body spoked for Romas origin and Balkan is isolated part , Romas need an ambasador à guide to get their rich culture back.
As for me I learned a lot of things in short time I live in indian waves.
Indian Government has a responsibility towards this people
I'm pretty sure they are allowed to immigrate to India and visit, and can become part of India again if they want.
@@quiet7632 they won’t. I have asked many. Most don’t want to settle anywhere. They want to travel.
Indian passport is weaker than European passport.
Roma don't want to be Indians
No they don’t. They need to stop their pagan practices and turn back to God
Hey Romani.. sisters and brothers ❤️👍
makes me so sad
hello good afternoon and greetings from Spain!
I have a couple of questions and I don't know if someone could help me, because sometimes I read that the Rajputs are not originally from India even though they are Kshatrias and then they also have the same origin with the Rajputs, the Banjaras and Jats? and in advance thank you very much and have a blessed day
@Aravind.B 15bct004 OK then where are they from ? And thanks a lot for your answer
This has been the modus operandi for revisionists for quite some time now. Calling every tribe/clan/Varna not originally belonging to India. If they are not originally from India, then why aren't there any Rajputs in their supposed original homeland? Even if they were fully driven out/migrated out of their homeland or just vanished, why aren't there any records of their existence outside of India? Indian historical texts from atleast a millenium before common era mention Rajputs. They are not related to Jats, who migrated to the northern part of India from around Sindh. Banjaras are the travellers who don't settle down and keep moving which is antithetical to what Varnashram aims for, i.e. building civilization. Both aforementioned communities are not even classified as Kshatriyas. So, not related to Rajputs.
@@ChroniclesOfIndia thanks for your answer and information,I'm very grateful 👏👏👍👍👍 uppar bhaarat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
@@ManuelV.K.R.S rajputs are kings in india in northern region, rajputs are very royal class in india..... And very much respected througout india bcoz of their bravery and kindness....
@@unicornplus4444 thanks ! for your answer and information greetings
Referring to people is ‘exotic’ covers more brutal reality of racism. It is a kind of objectification of someone different (non white) that is still used today (in the usa, asian women are often called ‘exotic’)
I am in a deep dive into SINTA and Romani history😊
Thank God for this video I was taught From my family throughout the years that we came To earth in a spaceship with Cadillac emblems on it from the planet Jupiter and Our God was Ronald McDonald
You're welcome!
In German-speaking Europe, the self-designation is Sinti, in France Manush, while the groups of Spain, Wales, and Finland use Kalo/Kale (from kalo meaning "black" in Romani language). There are numerous subgroups and clans with their own self-designations, such as the Kalderash, Machvaya, Boyash, Lovari, Modyar, Xoraxai, Lăutari, etc.
Roma is a term primarily used in political contexts to refer to the Romani people as a whole.] Rroma or Roma or Gypsy or Sinti
I cannot be sure but from my experience she is a scam but not from the reason you think so but because probably her husband made it to do it
I was a grant officers on few projets for Rroma inclusion. It was a hell for those who were implementing projects to achieve any sustainable results Rroma or Roma or Gypsy or Sinti
I cannot be sure but from my experience she is a scam but not from the reason you think so but because probably her husband made it to do it
I was a grant officers on few projets for Rroma inclusion. It was a hell for those who were implementing projects to achieve any sustainable results Still, some subgroups of Romani do not self-identify as Roma, therefore some scholars avoid using the term Roma as not all Romani subgroups accept the term.
Using term Rroms for all people of the same race is the very manifestation of RACISM
Were i grow up our elders forbidden us of studie or talking about or asking questions about our origins they have a deep fear of finding out our origins I believe is because in the pass family's wor separated men from woman and send to colonys were they find themselves alone and abandoned without family in places they didn't even know were they wore .
One really bad thing they do is they disguise themselves before going to beg. In my Canadian city, the Romano women wear a scarf that makes them look like Muslims to beg in main street, in front of churches and mosques and even at highway exits. Begging is not the issues but why take others' identities?
You do know that ethnicity and religion are two separate identities right?
@@ChroniclesOfIndia Still, they disguise themselves and completely claim regions they do not come from. The chronic begging on the street while claiming to be Arabs/or European Muslims lime Bosnians is wrong. Maybe they should claim their Indian heritage instead.
Firstly, genetics is a fairly new science. Before it appeared on the scene, no one really knew, except few and it wasnt backed by a lot of evidence, that Roma had Indian ancestry. People and even the Roma had all kinds of theories about their origins, since they didnt have any written history. And most of them still don't know it. Secondly, modern Roma follow various religions, even Islam and Christianity. And hence some of them are infact European muslims. They have been European longer than a lot of other ethnicities/people groups and a number of modern European nations. So they can be all that you mentioned except the Arab part, which, if it's true at all, is not good on their part and that totally justifies the everyday persecution faced by ALL OF THEM.
@@ChroniclesOfIndiaA small minority of Roma are Muslims but the ones I am talking about are not. The place a poor Muslim asks for help is not the street but the mosque. I asked them to go inside the mosque and ask help. The mosque determine their needs and ask them questions. But they usually do not want to go inside. Anyway, it is sad for them if they even think people will treat them better as Muslims.
@@BlackSeedOil20 Headscarfs have always been worn by Romani women..Until the mid 20th century they were also universally worn by Christian women in the Balkans, Eastern Europe and Greece, particularly in rural areas.. You will still see older ladies in these countries wearing headscarfs.
& so what if it is a begging tactic used by some. It's a disgrace on society that people have to beg, and those rich religions who allow poverty while sitting on enormous wealth.
Finnish word for slave is Orja or arya. Finish took them as slaves i guess and hugarians became friends? Indian vedic lunar tribe Druhyu / druh/draug/drook means friend in slavic and balitic but its negative in India means a rebel or enemy and means other in croats/serbian. Some ancients rivalry and friendships and slavery right there preserved in languages.
Barát=friend/boyfriend
Barátja=(someone's) friend
It has nothing to do with Indian subtribes, it has slavic roots, most likely Croatian (brat->barát), which meant brother, and it has a common origin with other indo-european words meaning brother, like frater in Latin, Bruder in German, brother in English, bhai in Hindi etc.
The other words are kinda interesting tho :D
@@ihavenoidea2736 may be baratja isn't but Druhyu is definitely related to Baltic slavic celtic Italic and germanic. Druh means army or people in old germanic. It is a recorded tribe in battle of ten kings. Last king of druhiyu tribe was Pracestas and interestingly it means an enemy in Lithuanian. Greeks croats bulgarians etc are not part of this tribe as per our tradition. Greeks were probably Alena a subclan of Anu tribe (proto iranian) whose priestly class was called Bhrigu/ atharvans. And incidently greek priestly class was called phlegua ie Bh=ph and R=L so Bhrigu, aka Phrygians. Druhiyu priests are called Druj and druhiyu in Avesta and Rig Veda aka druids.Druids of celts remember Bhrigu priestly class as goddess of learning or knowledge Brigitte.
@@gravewalker34 maybe, idk about those ones
Not a single word of what you say is correct.
Its not our fault that you have lost ur prehistory and historical records. We have linguistic and textual proof of germans and celts living near china in Bactria region. Many german and celtic word in old chinese /altaic/ yeneseian languages anf vice versa have been found by Gamkralitze and ivanov. And I am not even going into Hittites who are Mongoloid and their proto hittite kings and languages. I was just hinting that there are relations and contacts between these languages/people. Trust me we dont claim any of Europeans. They were barbaric pre vedic tribes that commited massacres in europe unlike vedic/iranian ppl who had code of warfare as recorded by megasthenies.
This is the sad fact of human tragedy
The gypsy people also migrated to China but few people know about it.
Here's one interesting article from Chinadaily.
Legendary gypsies once in China
Liu Jun
2005-09-28 06:26
You may think of Carmen, a fickle girl in Georges Bizet's "Carmen," or Esmeralda, an incredible dancer in Victor Hugo's "Notre-Dame de Paris," when talking about gypsies.
However, very few would imagine that this legendary people came to China once, believing that they stuck only to the roads of Europe. In fact, "Gypsies set foot on Chinese soil some 200 years earlier than on European soil. To be exact, during the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368) when they toured to Northwest China's Shaanxi and Gansu provinces," says Cai Hongsheng, a history professor from Sun Yat-sen University in South China's Guangdong Province.
Back then, gypsies were called Luoli in Chinese. Cai noted that the name originally came from Persia, where gypsies arrived in the fifth century. He made reference to a paper by Yang Zhijiu, a historian at Nankai University, who died in 2002 at the age of 87. Yang was an expert on the Yuan Dynasty and Hui history.
In his paper entitled "Gypsies in China's Yuan Dynasty Luri Huihui" published in 1991, Yang wrote: "These nomadic people, called 'Luoli' in Chinese with the similar pronunciation as 'Luri,' came to northern China's Shaanxi and Gansu in the 13th century, before they arrived in Europe around the 15th century, where they remain as gypsies today."
Yet, "The name Luoli in Chinese or Luri in Persian is different from either Gypsy in English or Bohemian in French. Either Gypsy or Bohemian is a derogatory name for it contains a connotation of scorning their wandering lifestyle," Yang wrote in the paper.
However, Cai pointed out that Yang didn't provide answers to pending questions such as where the gypsies came from? Where else had they been? And do Luoli remain in China today?
Regrettably, no more records have been found as yet in order to help answer these questions. Yang's studies unfortunately came to an end when he died in 2002.
Another essay by Li Hao, an official from Yunnan Province who is also interested in the subject, described the Luoli's lifestyle patterns around Dali, a scenic spot in Yunnan, during the end of the Yuan to the early Ming Dynasty (1368-1644).
In Li's essay, Dali was then an important gateway of cultural exchange and trading with southeastern Asian countries, and those from India, Persia, and the Luoli, named as "Moluo" in southwest China.
Similar to how gypsies are depicted in films and on stage, Li described how the Luoli would sing and dance in the streets, or sell herbs and practise fortune telling to make a living.
It was believed that the Gypsies also made money by singing and dancing. They created more than 100 songs during their stay in Dali. "Those songs were sung in Chinese, indicating that Luoli gradually adopted Han culture, and successfully found a way to make a living," says Cai.
Furthermore, it also suggested that the Luoli's performances were well accepted by local people. "Without large audienc
Nice to hear
Circumstance often dictates behavior. My experience with Roma is that they are seen as pick pockets and thieves. I knew one Roma woman in Seattle who managed a fall at the place she was renting. She sued the owner and collected hundreds of thousands in support while pretending to be crippled as a result of the fall. I also knew a Roma family in Vegas that were fortune tellers and fake psychics among other things. A bad reputation yes. Is it because of the few or the many in Roma society ? What is your experience.
Let's help encourage Romani people to visit india.
why
Let's encourage all descendants of European colonisers to go home.
Only from Rajasthan. From no where else.
Come back to india
They will be more worse here. Let them live.
@@AA-dt9he Gypsy nikdy nebojovali a nezabíjali ľudí-ako vaši gádže---
@@juliusrigo indians also never faught or kill people whenever they faught they did it in defence .
no
@@AA-dt9he that is the problem with some Indians .
We are not ready to stand up for Hindus in pakistan and bangladesh let alone Romanis .
Romani people did not go there for picnic , they were persecuted and forced to live like gypsies for about 800 years .
Hitler kille over a million Romanis .
Only India is the homeland of Romani people . If they want to come we should welcome them . They have the samne blood like us .
In fact there are many similarities with North West Indian languages.
Some British Romanichals inter-married with Anglo-Indians during the Victorian era and in the British Raj.
Could it be that some of these Romani people were part of the defeated people in the great Mahabharatha war
Their migration is fairly recent for them to be identified as any of the tribes banished after the end of any pre historic war.
Right Sir, Thank you. Had this doubt because a version of kuru tribe came up in these opinions.
Nope it's after islamic invasion into India were western Indians decided to move out including my parents but we came to up, they went till Europe
@@jaysonjayasheelan7797 we had migration out of India several times in ancient India .
Rigvedic times war of Dasraja where defeated people moved to Persia and then Europe .
You van see Mittani kingdom in Syria and turkey .
Present day Yezidis follow similacr culture to Hindus .
Roman god Jupiter , Greek god Zeus and Viking god Thor are the european veraikn of Indra the god of Thunder .
Such Hypocrisy of Human Rights by Europeans. Human Rights are violated by others but not by Europeans, what a Joke.
Well this leaves me a bit wondering, because old Gypsys would have told you another story. Infact a lot of them would be furious if you called them a Roma. Its not that you are lying or anything about their origins in fact that is more or less exactly what is/was passed on trough the generation. But or at least so it is described the Term Roma was first used by Gypsys after the ottoman empire for mostly Romanian and bulgarian people who went with them further to middle europe. They (Roma) are far more open about heir culture and language, which is why their is far more known about them. There is also a huge difference in the language Romani which is the language of Romas but there is also the far less known language of Romeness.
Noto the shots I am an old roma which is what we are called and we don't speak romaness it is just romani
@@richardboswell9306 maybe you should read my comment again, maybe you are an old roma but i never said that romas would speak anything other then romani. I very much said that it is the language of a Roma. But there definetly is another language cause i speak it, only shows that you maybe not know as much as you belive.
When Roma Gypsies first came to Europe in Greece, they were known as "Egyptians" due to their "says" or stories that claimed that they came from Little Egypt and where originally slaves of the Egyptian Pharaohs. We called us Roman Egyptians ,becose EGYPT was part of Roman empire ,ROMAN REPUBLIC . In Greece the called us ROMANO GITANOS- ROMAN EGYPTIAN- ROMA GYPSY ....How did Egypt become Roman?
. The rich lands of Egypt became the property of Rome ,Roman republic ,after the death of Cleopatra VII in 30 BCE, which spelled the end of the Ptolemaic dynasty that had ruled Egypt since the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BCE. After the murder of Gaius Julius Caesar in 44 BCE, the Roman Republic was left in turmoil. (32-30 BC) was the last civil war of the Roman Republic, fought between Mark Antony (assisted by Cleopatra and by extension Ptolemaic Egypt) and Octavian. In 32 BC, Octavian convinced the Roman Senate to declare war on the Egyptian queen Cleopatra
Found out about the domani and romani people they migrated from rajasthan right, they were sanskrit speaking people, there is a story that there is a city where brahmins used to stay and a whole village just went away because there was a landlord cruel one and old person asked for a young girl, so the whole village detested the land lord and vanished in one night, so the village is cursed and no one lives there so where did the village people go away so this is the link where the people went they took carriages and went to the foreign lands it is them for sure 100% as they speak distorted sanskrit. the whole link is here.
I'm here for peaky blinders
They're Irish travellers and not Romani. While "gypsy" is a term used for both these groups and loan words being interchangeably used in their languages due to their long history of migration and coming into contact with each other but they are distinct people groups.
@@ChroniclesOfIndia thank you !😊
@@ChroniclesOfIndia I think they come from both. In the show they describe themselves as Romani and even speak Romani, although not very accurate. I believe their father was Roma and their mother was Irish traveler or the other way around.
it is guesswork, not a hard match,
i dont understand what hv they done to endure such hate ???
Gypsies headed to Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, but Bulgaria kicked them out and then they headed to Spain and england.
I think lambani community in india same
They are not indian but their skin is not white as Europeans they are European origins nomadic people
They were Indians
Tyson Fury should be bestowed with one of the highest awards by India.
Tyson Fury is an Irish traveller and not Romani. Gypsy is a derogatory term that is used for both.
Tyson is like they said, but is known to us as boyosh, loudod ,rumney
@@matthewcostello3595 Crooks have been honoured why not another sporting hero.
Zaltan ibrahimovic is also romani
He's not a Roma. He ancestry is from "Irish Travellers". They are also called gypsies which they don't like! They are a different ethnic group to the Roma and have nothing to do with India.
Are the Gypsies descendants of the Aryan people?
Thay are from North india Rajasthan and Punjab rajputes and jats
Their migration is fairly recent and there aren't enough contemporary records about their migration for them to be identified as purely Aryan or purely Non Aryan tribes.
Yeah I mean North Indians specifically western Indians are ariyas
Yes gypsies are descendant of Aryans.
Only the people of Indian subcontinent and Iran are real Aryans , it does not mean white race , it means noble human . Which is ths characteriatic of Hindu Dharma ,
Indian was called Aryavarta , means land of Aryans .
@@arvindthakur6921Sabko jaat Rajput bana de wo kalberia aur banjara jati ke hai dusro ka itihas yaha bhi chura lo tum Mughalput 🤣
Alternate title: history of Albanian people
Reading the number hart the language is very close to gujarati / Sindhi
Gypsy is NOT derogatory. Let us Gypsies decide what is degrading NOT YOU!
THEY'RE CALLED ROMS,NO ROMANI !
Ty vonwermitz rom means man it's roma or romani
@@richardboswell9306 why the "-ni" then?
Bengali, 1) ek 2)dui 3) tin 4)char 5) pach
in romanes its the same 1-5 but then we have persian and greek 6-10 :)
Romani people are actually people of Indus Valley, who ran away from their ancestral land towards Europe through Iran and Turkey due to continuous attacks of horse mounted robbers across Hindu Kush mt. from central asia, in 11th. century, particularly Mahmud of Gazna, now in Afghanistan.
They are Sindhi from Sindh, now in Pakistan.
They themselves claim to ba called as Sinti means Sindhi. Their language is an outdated version of Sindhi language. Kolachi clan, city of Karachi belongs to them they now auction their daughters in Bulgaria, but to only other Kolachi.
No Prof we are from rajasthan we were warriors who fought 17 battles without losing and decided to leave followed mongols across the plains fighting as we went
@@richardboswell9306
You must be an other professor, I wonder!
Rajasthan, before Bin Qasim was part of Sindh and Indus Valley and its rulers were of Rai clan, originally Jats of Jaisalmer, now in Rajasthan, Bharat.
(India is a separate disputable term.)
Arora was their capital, wherefrom they used to rule. The after effects of the site are still present near Rohri, in district of Sukkur in Sindh, not in Bharat.
Rajasthan is greatly based on the desert of Thar and half of Thar desert is lying in Sindh.
You may be not, but some of you calling themselves as Sinti are from Sindh and Kolachi is a famous Sindhi clan in Sindh. The city of Karachi belongs to them.
Kindly introduce me your whereabouts fully.
Rajasthan is too broad a term and too vast a region for it to be clumped together with Sindh. Brahmin/Chach dynasty was ruling Sindh for atleast 8 decades before bin Qasim (and even after that) but your cherrypicking to exaggerate the prominence of Rai dynasty (only because they were supposedly Jats) who ruled for only 4 decades and ruled only parts of western Rajasthan is understandable. You must be some professor, professor!
@@professorengineermuhammads5556 no am romani passed down from ancestors we never write anything down so what you don't hear from us is shit
@@richardboswell9306 rajasthani here
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The are call TIGANI or ZIGOINER, no Roma. Roma is a British invention. TIGAN
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6:42 not 200 or 300. It is estimated 500 thousands of Romanis were killed in holocaust.
lowest estimation i seen was 200k but highest was 5million. some tribes was 90% destroyed..
we don't go from door to door stealing pickles and .......... stealing oil ....... you will enter my house and steal oil ........ we don't go over ... door to door picking their clothes and stealing their ...inner wears ........ ....... dogs .... of Tamil ......
I thought they are from the Roman Empire 😅😅
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Everything is propaganda of this Evil world.
Sinti and Roma are two different People.
Romani is a fake Name to destroy Sinti ethnic Independent Identity
stop using text to speech
Typical colonial attitude of the narrator. Calling persecution, slavery as migration.
India is the homeland of humanity and Sanskrit is the mother father and grandfather of all languages and religion. during the ancient times there were so many airports in India and airplanes were basically invented by Vishwakarma India had aircraft companies like Lockheed Martin and Airbus. Urine of cow was generally considered sacred and taken in all occasions along with little cow dung for breakfast. Both in the period of Ramayana and Mahabharata India had the capability of launching nuclear missiles known as Brahmastra even today the desserts of Sahara and in the mounds of Mohenjo Daro radiation is still measured high these were the places the popular wars were fought.
:) !!!!!!!!! You have some imagination dude !
@@tirpitz19 He could make a tv series like Game of Thrones and it would be a huge hit with these stories of fantasy.
@@countroshculla You right :)
😂😂😂😂😂 bhai lamba feka
SURE!!! IT IS QUITE AMUSING HOW YOU SEEM TO IN THE WORLD OF FANTASY AND MYTH.
We are very different from Indian people even the language is different in our beliefs are totally different we believe in God only no idols no statues I speak for all Gypsy people I know because I am full blooded gypsy
Propaganda bot spotted.
Still West will not accept you.
@@easwaransanthakumar297 he may not be a real romani but someone with propoganda against India (look how he talks about idol worship). If you reply with hate, his purpose is served.
My sme vyvolený národ-sme stratené kmene z Izraela-z nás pochádzajú všetky národy -Starý zákon píše len o gypsy a židoch-v biblii máme stovky gypsy slov -napríklad manro-chlieb -parašťu-piatok-meriba-omša--múlo-mrtvý a atak ďalej .
You are a Gypsy this tells a lot about you. We Sinti people are not Gypsies. 88% of our Sinti language have Indian Origin. If you dont have Indian vocabularies than you are unable to speak your language.
Roma the Himalayan origin
You are totally ignorant about Indian practices. In North India people are prohibited from marrying into their own gotra ( if that is what you are calling a clan) . The idea is to marry as far away as possible so that genetic diversity is maintained.
Endogamy mentioned in the video refers to the caste and tribe based endogamy. Nothing to do with gotra. A clan is loosely defined in this context. Like Kshatriya is a varna, within which lies a people group called Rajputs. Now you may choose to call it a tribe or a clan. But then Rajputs are settled all over North, East, Central and even southern India. Now for a Rajput living in say Himachal, endogamy would be to marry a Rajput girl from Himachal. And marrying a Rajput girl from UP would still be exogamy. So that is how endogamy is practiced on various levels. And you seem too naive to dish out general statements about the whole of North India. Please try to read and learn more before resorting to namecalling.
Thanks.
Very interesting video.
First time I saw these nicely dressed gypsies on the roads and begging in Rome, Italy and was intrigued.
I have lived in Hungary for a year and saw many of these gypsy groups. Hungarians also believe that the origin of these people is from India.
I have been quite querious about this community, and have seen a film about their life, confined in a autonomous state, somewhere in eastern europe.
They are a happy-go getter community and believe in eat-drink-dance. When run out of money sneak into western europe, go begging, stealing, road side robbery, etc.
Hungarian govt tried hard to civilize them but of no use. It is hard to change the genes.
I have seen some films too. It shows proofs of white cops filing fake accusations of theft, robbery etc., on Gypsies. What more can we expect from coloniser mindset, right? They never lose that genes. Afterall bible old testament is their guide.
tento dokument je falošný. Gypsy roma nepoznajú indickú krvavú Sáru--naša Sára je kresťanka. A Gypsy sú stratené kmene z Izraela...Naša kultúra je napísaná v Starom zákone dokonca aj stovky slov máme v biblii,,,,,
What about cruel things europ did to tham
@@arvindthakur6921 Do you know any cruel things Europeans did to Europeans ?
@@tirpitz19 to gypsy s
Western Hipocracy at their best
*The Romani and the present Aryan Brahmins of India are the same people. Do research on this. The Romanis should hereafter call themselves Romani Brahmins. Infact the Romanis are more pure Brahmins than the Aryan Brahmins of India because the Indian Aryan Brahmins @ Indian Romanis have interbreed with the native indigenous people of Indian Peninsula when they migrated into India from khazar region. The Indian Romanis @ Aryan Brahmins maternal DNA @ Mitochondrial DNA is not original Romani but native indigenous Indian. The present Indian Romani Brahmins are only Romani from the paternal side. The real original Romanis are the ones scattered all over Europe. Even the Romani language is directly connected to the vedic sanskrit language. The most revered gods of the Brahmins lord Rama and lord Brahma @ Abraham are themselves Romas. Roma@Rama. The Aryan Brahmins of India, the khazarian & ashkenazi Jews of Israel are the same people @ Romanis. Romanis are the real true Aryan Brahmins @ jews. Please do a video on this.👍*
It takes some mental gymnastics to compare two hypothesized migrations more than two and a half millenia apart. But in this day and age, Huxley stands vindicated.
@@ChroniclesOfIndia
...the Romas and the Aryan Brahmins are genetically connected too !
Connected(your second reply) != Same people (your first reply)
As for connected, most of us share some part of our DNA with most other people, doesnt mean we all are the "same people".
@@ChroniclesOfIndia
*...whats bothering in accepting the fact that the Romas are the true Aryan Brahmins !* Are you ashamed of it brother ? 🤔🤨
Hmm gypsy and India is very deference tradition no same u wrong
Their DNA's have already been matched with North Western Indians.
Traditions are different, but DNA Is the same
The Aborigines of Australia are also originally from India 🇮🇳
Name it some of these imaginary culture similarities with Indian culture!?
Jesus is son of God but Krishna is father
U scum b@g westerner
They have literally the same root language and the same DNA
@@jdaimaoh765 CULTURE
@@davidhorvath9977 they have their own culture now. They are like the african americans, their roots are africans but they don't have tribal african culture, they have their own culture, but the roots are still the same. Same things with gypsyes, they have indian origins but different culture
How stupidity ! Are they called "Roma" or "Romani" in english ?! Make up your own mind about this nonsense. It is clear that "Roma" or "Romani" are words invented or deformed in a political, occult sense, to create confusion with other peoples. These nomadic Indians have nothing to do with the Roman Empire, the city Roma in Italy or the country Romania ! In fact, the original words are "dom" or "lom" in another dialect, not rom. I honestly don't understand why they are not simply and correctly called ,,Indians" or something related to India, if the old name of gypsies is no longer used.
Where has it been implied in the video that they are related to Roman Empire? Was there even a single mention of the Roman empire in the video? And is it Italy or Italia?! Make up your own mind about this nonsense.
Also, they didn't call themselves Roma, they were not called Roma/Romani when/before they migrated, which most probably is a phonological change caused by the eastern European languages. I know it's a lot to expect from a seething nincompo*p but please think before you around shi*ting all over the internet.
@@ChroniclesOfIndia It would be good to have a civilized dialogue. I wrote Italy because I wrote in English man, what don't you understand?! Of course you didn't mention the Roman Empire in this video, but please read what I wrote. It can be very easily confused with the Roman Empire or others, that's what I wanted to say.
Did we give them the name "Roma" or "Romani"? If not how did this make us or the video nonsensical? No one's relating them to the Roman empire, atleast not the ones who care to read/learn with an open mind keeping aside their prejudices and preconceived notions. And if your civilized discussion starts with calling someone stupid, then you're just another POS my friend. Thanks!
@@ChroniclesOfIndia You mistranslated bro. No problem calling you "stupid", on the contrary, I really enjoyed your video. I wrote the expression "How stupid" (with Google translate, I don't know English very well) which refers to the fact that there are 2 words for the same ethnicity and it is not clear which one is the correct one. The IDEA itself is stupid, not you as a human!!! I know that the 2 expressions (Roma and Romani) appear in English, that's what I wanted to say, the one who invented 2 words instead of one made a mistake, you just took it as they appear, it's not your fault. A good day !
Claudia's d we are both the words mean man and people
ALL of Europe was populated FROM India. 10,000 years ago was ice age in Europe. 5000 years ago was the great Mahabhatat WAR. Every war make people move away from the war torn area. Similarly the people of North India moved to present day Persia, then spread to Greece. Many Greek stories are similar to those of India. Study them carefully and see the similarity. The names of the characters are different now. Whole of Europe was settled like this. Their EGO is too big to admit being from India. India is regarded as dirty, poor, uneducated. This was the result of infighting and Mogul rule. The world is being educated now through videos like this.
No, in fact India was populated from Europe. Half of India are indigenous, the other half migrated from modern day Ukraine, Russia and the surrounding places. Aryan groups like persians, Hindustanis, Kashmiris, Sindhis, Punjabis, Bangladeshis, Sinhalese people, and even Roma are originated from the same people as Italians, Germans, Frenchmen, Englishmen, Spaniards, Russians, Norwegians, Ukrainians, Greeks, Albanians, Armenians and so many more, they all were in fact white. So yeah, today northern India's population is of white heritage, also the population in Persia. Even the Vedas, even the Ramayana and the Mahabharata were written by white aryans coming from Eastern Europe. The similarities between Indian and Greek legends and stories, the polytheism etc (and not only present in Indian and ancient Greek cultures but also in ancient persian, latin, ancient slavic, ancient norse, ancient german and ancient baltic cultures) also doesn't mean that Europe is populated by Indians, but rather a common origin. We are not your descendants, also you are not our descendants, but we both are descendants of an older people group which broke into many parts.
Ancient European indigenous peoples (like etruscans, Iberians, Illyrians and etc) didn't come from India, but from Africa and the Middle East. Also we have some non-indo-european people groups here, like Finns, Estonians, Hungarians, Gagauzians, Turks, Tatars, etc but neither of these come from India, but from different parts of Siberia. So basically the only people group that are present in Europe and are direct descendants of Indian people groups are the Roma.
@@ihavenoidea2736 whit aryens and brhaman are same?
@@ihavenoidea2736 maharishi walmiki write ramayana is he white aryen?
@@arvindthakur6921 well... Brahmans were basically the nobility. It was all white people (who later mixed with brown people, creating the modern-day Northern Indian society). So yeah, Maharishi Valmiki was a brahman, therefore a white man.
@@ihavenoidea2736 👌
Hindi , no romani !
I am amazed over ignorance of people on the planet about Sindh, the ancient valley of River Indus.
Greeks with Alexander the great gave it the name of "India", the land on the banks of River Indus, not Bharat or Hindusan, some 23 centuries ago and remained in tact for next 10 centuries.
Greeks never went to Bharat or Hindustan, at all!
Things started changing after the conquest of Arabs in the 8th century.
They went upto Multan only. Otherwise whole of Punjab and Kashmir were parts of Greater Sindh!! Punjabi or Kashmiri languages are nothing but varients/dilects of the vast Sindhi Language!
This provided opportunity to the horse mounted Central Asian savages for the attacks and occupation, starting from Mahmood of Gazni of Afghanistan in 11th. century.
Today, Pakistan is nothing but the extension of that process of occupation continued to date!
Can you please provide the references during which era/empire Kashmir was a part of Sindh empire/region?
They should have never left there subcontinent. There's only one home
Tahy have no choice because of gaznvi after 16 raids maney tries to go back but thay weren't able to
I agree with you. Gypseys ultimately be at home only in India.
The truth is this is not our home!
The world is for everyone. Racist BS is a cancer in the world
Sinti und Roma sind kein Inder wie haben in indien leben aber sind kein Inder! ..... 👍🏻🙏🏻🇮🇱
All Roma people please revert to your original culture....... Hindhuism
On 6 May, one time per year we celebrate fire ceremony , we collect flowers and throw them to the lake as a ritual bath, in the entry of houses we hang willow tree plant against the fever. .
Simmilaire to Lori and sinjara festival.
No no no there a lost tribe of Israel they have very old Jewish ways
They have literally Indian DNA, not related to jews at all, what the hell are you talking about???
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