I have used 4 and 5 metre whips in the sea and have also taken an 8 lbs carp on a 4 metre whip adapted this way. I removed the original eye, folded a 15 cms piece of stainless steel, grade 304 wire - 1.25 mm from eBay - in half and whipped it on, leaving a robust 'eye' protruding about 7 or 8 mm from the end, sealing the whipping with either UV resin or two coats of rod varnish. Sometimes, I fold the metal down slightly before I whip it on but this doesn't seem necessary. It just looks a little better. The finished job is much stronger than the original eye and perfect for the short elastic links that I use in the sea. Nowadays, I connect the elastic with a fast link at one end - much more durable than a snap link - and a plastic connector at the other. It works well. I wish you all the best with your experiments. Have fun!
I love Brixham! We have been there quite a few times for family holidays. I remember buying your books off the market stall on the quayside, very informative. I only sea fish on holidays as we live in the middle of the country. Can’t wait to come down for my two weeks holiday next August. Hopefully see you on the quayside. Tight lines.
I am glad that you found the books informative Jason. Thank you. I have got two and a half chapters to go on my latest book and then I will be able to add that to the range too. I shall look forward to seeing you at Brixham Arts and Crafts Market. I lost a lot of the season this year with treatment for prostate cancer so hopefully things will be back to normal. Look after yourself and all the best for the future. Best wishes. Martyn.
Problem I noticed when checking your depth, you had the float closer every time you put in to check, if the bottom sloped as it seemed too, you would be way off the bottom if you fished at pole length where you first checked the depth. Like you made a new friend with the Seagull.
Hello Del. Thank you for your thoughts. I was fishing a rising tide. The variance between the low tide and the high tide can be dramatic. At the mark where I filmed, the difference can be three to four metres. You might start at a depth of two metres - less on a Spring tide - but gradually, over the session, it can rise until nearly the length of the pole which, in this instance, was six metres. The bottom does slope a bit but is also complicated by being uneven, which is why a plummet is a good idea to have. Even a shift of three or four metres to the side can change the depth considerably.
Very interesting video! I am a keen tenkara fly fisherman and have recently bought a 6 metre Keiryu rod which is based on the same principle of tenkara (fixed line, no reel) but is a more substantial rod that will handle bigger fish. I was tempted to try this method having watched videos of Spanish anglers using long Keiryu rods to catch decent sized mullet from the rocky Atlantic coast shore using nymphs imitating shrimps as baits: the method is highly effective and could easily used for bait fishing on river and in the sea. I have so far only used it on my local river and it is highly effective for chub and the method allows drag free drifting of either bait or fly and the length of the rod allows access to channels in the river defined by surrounding weed beds that makes them almost impossible to fish from the bank (I usually wade).Just a few thoughts.
Some very interesting thoughts too. I tried one of my marks with live prawns and encountered some much larger wrasse that the pole struggled with. I am going to look again with a carp 6m battle margin pole but the keiryu rod could also be very good fun. I shall have to do some research.
Great video. Just bought a roach whip to do this exact thing in brixham in a few weeks. Just wondering - have you tried other baits than worm here with any success?
Hello there. Yes, I have, changing the bait and venue to match the target species, which will vary according to the time of year and conditions on the day. I have used mackerel strips to catch mackerel, scad and garfish when they are close in, similarly whiting and pouting in the Winter, but I have also used live prawns to target bass and bigger wrasse on the Breakwater. Ragworms seem to work better than lugworms here though, with a quarter pound of ragworms usually enough to last you through one tide. I have also scooped shrimps from the sandy beaches, which can do well for wrasse of all sizes, but I have also had golden grey mullet on ragworms. I think the day will come when I catch some bream on the pole but it hasn't happened yet. I think it will though, when I find the right mark.
What size elastic is that, looks like some serious strength stuff, nothing like the stuff I have used in the past for normal Pole fishing even for small crucian carp but that went trough the pole tip sections not outside.
Normally I use 15 - 17 grade solid elastic, but on some marks, the fish are a bit bigger so I step up a grade and use hollow elastic, which is a lot thicker. At one mark, where I have caught bass and wrasse to 4.5 lbs, I have even gone to 20 - 24 grade hollow elastic. It can be useful when the rocks and seaweed are particularly snaggy and you get caught a lot and need to retrieve your tackle without putting too much strain on the pole. Sadly, I can't get down that mark any more - osteoarthritis seems to have got a motor on since the radiotherapy - but there are still a lot of other places to enjoy. I have had to curtail the market too, unfortunately. This year, I had so many trips booked by people for fishing that I didn't have time to make the garden ornaments. Shame, but there ye be! Anyone interested in buying a lot of garden ornament moulds? Going cheap...
I have used 4 and 5 metre whips in the sea and have also taken an 8 lbs carp on a 4 metre whip adapted this way. I removed the original eye, folded a 15 cms piece of stainless steel, grade 304 wire - 1.25 mm from eBay - in half and whipped it on, leaving a robust 'eye' protruding about 7 or 8 mm from the end, sealing the whipping with either UV resin or two coats of rod varnish. Sometimes, I fold the metal down slightly before I whip it on but this doesn't seem necessary. It just looks a little better. The finished job is much stronger than the original eye and perfect for the short elastic links that I use in the sea. Nowadays, I connect the elastic with a fast link at one end - much more durable than a snap link - and a plastic connector at the other. It works well. I wish you all the best with your experiments. Have fun!
I have a 5 metre whip with a eye at the end going to try that elastic way for pond fishing
I love Brixham! We have been there quite a few times for family holidays. I remember buying your books off the market stall on the quayside, very informative. I only sea fish on holidays as we live in the middle of the country. Can’t wait to come down for my two weeks holiday next August. Hopefully see you on the quayside. Tight lines.
I am glad that you found the books informative Jason. Thank you. I have got two and a half chapters to go on my latest book and then I will be able to add that to the range too. I shall look forward to seeing you at Brixham Arts and Crafts Market. I lost a lot of the season this year with treatment for prostate cancer so hopefully things will be back to normal. Look after yourself and all the best for the future. Best wishes. Martyn.
Superb and novel fishing from a true Innovator in sea Angling keep it coming Martyn
Thank you Dai. I will pop in a video on ISO fishing in the UK shortly too.
Problem I noticed when checking your depth, you had the float closer every time you put in to check, if the bottom sloped as it seemed too, you would be way off the bottom if you fished at pole length where you first checked the depth. Like you made a new friend with the Seagull.
Hello Del. Thank you for your thoughts. I was fishing a rising tide. The variance between the low tide and the high tide can be dramatic. At the mark where I filmed, the difference can be three to four metres. You might start at a depth of two metres - less on a Spring tide - but gradually, over the session, it can rise until nearly the length of the pole which, in this instance, was six metres. The bottom does slope a bit but is also complicated by being uneven, which is why a plummet is a good idea to have. Even a shift of three or four metres to the side can change the depth considerably.
Very interesting video! I am a keen tenkara fly fisherman and have recently bought a 6 metre Keiryu rod which is based on the same principle of tenkara (fixed line, no reel) but is a more substantial rod that will handle bigger fish. I was tempted to try this method having watched videos of Spanish anglers using long Keiryu rods to catch decent sized mullet from the rocky Atlantic coast shore using nymphs imitating shrimps as baits: the method is highly effective and could easily used for bait fishing on river and in the sea.
I have so far only used it on my local river and it is highly effective for chub and the method allows drag free drifting of either bait or fly and the length of the rod allows access to channels in the river defined by surrounding weed beds that makes them almost impossible to fish from the bank (I usually wade).Just a few thoughts.
Some very interesting thoughts too. I tried one of my marks with live prawns and encountered some much larger wrasse that the pole struggled with. I am going to look again with a carp 6m battle margin pole but the keiryu rod could also be very good fun. I shall have to do some research.
Great video. Just bought a roach whip to do this exact thing in brixham in a few weeks.
Just wondering - have you tried other baits than worm here with any success?
Hello there. Yes, I have, changing the bait and venue to match the target species, which will vary according to the time of year and conditions on the day. I have used mackerel strips to catch mackerel, scad and garfish when they are close in, similarly whiting and pouting in the Winter, but I have also used live prawns to target bass and bigger wrasse on the Breakwater. Ragworms seem to work better than lugworms here though, with a quarter pound of ragworms usually enough to last you through one tide. I have also scooped shrimps from the sandy beaches, which can do well for wrasse of all sizes, but I have also had golden grey mullet on ragworms. I think the day will come when I catch some bream on the pole but it hasn't happened yet. I think it will though, when I find the right mark.
What size elastic is that, looks like some serious strength stuff, nothing like the stuff I have used in the past for normal Pole fishing even for small crucian carp but that went trough the pole tip sections not outside.
Normally I use 15 - 17 grade solid elastic, but on some marks, the fish are a bit bigger so I step up a grade and use hollow elastic, which is a lot thicker. At one mark, where I have caught bass and wrasse to 4.5 lbs, I have even gone to 20 - 24 grade hollow elastic. It can be useful when the rocks and seaweed are particularly snaggy and you get caught a lot and need to retrieve your tackle without putting too much strain on the pole. Sadly, I can't get down that mark any more - osteoarthritis seems to have got a motor on since the radiotherapy - but there are still a lot of other places to enjoy. I have had to curtail the market too, unfortunately. This year, I had so many trips booked by people for fishing that I didn't have time to make the garden ornaments. Shame, but there ye be! Anyone interested in buying a lot of garden ornament moulds? Going cheap...
@@martyngreen7565 Thanks for the info.