My advent is just a beast! I set a 2x9 group (long cage) and never missed a shift on 3 months riding. No chain drops either. I love it. Way better than my deore m6000
That’s legit! I definitely think it’s on par with sram GX. I like the feel of shimano shifting better but then you gotta consider the price difference 🤘
Great vid! I am looking to upgrade my cassette to the Advent Microshift 11 x 46t 10 speed cassette. What derailleur model number did you use? Is it a medium cage or long cage? Also what size chain ring are you using?
When the limit screws are adjusted properly, the chain will not drop off on either side even when the cable stretches and regardless of shifting technique.
I just did a drop bar budget build with Advent 9-speed. I could not get a 10-speed shifter. Nonetheless, I like it. I typically ride nice stuff. Is Advent of similar quality to Ultegra or Force? Nope. But it’s just fine. It’s notchy, but solid. Once I got it tuned, Advent has NEVER missed a shift. Like you, it took me about 15 minutes to dial in.
That’s awesome - thanks for info on the drop bar build - notchy is a good way to describe how it feels when you shift - really solid for the price! Thanks for watching!
Just bought this set as well, and am really looking forward to installing it soon. Keeping a close eye on deals, there "was" a deal for the derailleur at $65, the alloy cassette at $60 (heh, took the last one off Amazon) and the shifter with the pad at $26 for a total of $151.....too bad I didn't see the better priced derailleur until after I paid full price elsewhere. But if anyone really wants to make this even more affordable, if you still find the derailleur at $65 and the shifter at $25ish, you could save money by going all steel cassette, where I did see on Amazon going as low as $35, which would make this really inexpensive for only $125. For now, I'm waiting for my new cransket to replace a rivetted altus.
@@FoCoFlowShow Been using this AdventX setup for over a month now. Wow, what a great drivetrain! Easy to setup, have not had to readjust at all yet. Snappy shifting and it just feels solid on the trail. I like that it gives a solid sounding shift. My son's SLX is so quiet that I can hardly hear anything, where I've actually found I preferred hearing the shift on the Advent. ONLY issue or thing about this AdventX that makes me go...why? The paint on this derailleur REALLY attracts dirt! My son and I would ride on the same trail, my AdventX derailleur is coated in dirt. Where as his SLX has no dirt on it. Tempted to wax this derailleur to keep the dirt off! But that's the only negative I so far have on this Microshift system. Am very satisfied with this purchase!
Nice. I can't wait to install mine. By the way what hooks did you use to hang your bikes in your garage? I'd like to do the same. They appear space saving. Thanks!
I installed an AdventX a few weeks ago, and so far it's great. My only complaint is that i wish they skipped 5t between cogs instead of 4t: 11-48t/400% to 11-56t/500%. I'd much rather have greater range than less range between gears. With 36t chainring, youll be able to climb any hill, but cant pedal down steep hills. I think 44t chainring with 11-56t cassette would've been much better. At least, for roads.
@@FoCoFlowShow well, with 29in wheels and the setup I described, there is no gearing for downhill runs. You just have to coast, which isn't a big drawback, but I'd like to test 11-56t with a bigger chainring to see what it would be like 😁
Thanks for the shout out! For chain length, did you only add one inner/outer link? Microshift says to add two of each which is what I did. My chain does seem a little long though, barely any tension on it in the smallest gear.
Thanks so much for you video! I have never installed a derailleur and have a silly question; at 3:25 you indicate cutting the cable when at the right length: how to determine when at the “right” length of cable? It seems like the correct cable length could be exacting and important for precise shifting. Thanks again for your helpful video!
Once you feed the cable through the shifter and down through the derailleur you just pull it so that it is barely “tight” and clamp it down with the dereilleur pinch bolt - once it’s clamped - leave an inch or two and cut the cable behind the dereilleur
It’s obviously not better than high end sram or shimano groupsets, but it is at least 75% the quality at 1/5 the price. Can’t beat that for 90%+ people.
Would love to switch back to a 10 speed someday. I need some more long term testing before I make the change, but you make a compelling argument. Will you do another review on it in a few months?
It looks like the gear range is 11-46 - that’s actually smaller than the 10 speeds 11-48 … I def miss having 11 gears sometimes but overall I love the simplicity of the 10 speed
@@ibby81ae the Microshift website said the derailleur range was 11-46 … I’m not sure if you can run bigger - I’d contact MS directly - they’re customer service is pretty good .
The length of the chain doesn’t matter. It’s actually the width. The 11speed chain is slightly narrower which gives you a little bit more wiggle room to get the whole system dialed.
By chainring, do you mean the front chain ring? If so, the front doesn’t matter at all. You’ll Want to make sure the rear free hub body (the sleeve the rear cassette sits on) is compatible. Unless you have a super old or super low end 8 speed cassette then all 8, 9, and 10 speed cassettes use the same rear freehub body - so you should be good to go either way
Some people did two outer links which is what microshift recommends - and the 11 speed chain is a trick I learned from another MTB TH-cam that really seems to help
Big laod of shit. The cassette is loose on mine. Waste of money. Even the microshit website is a pain in the arse to use and communicate for tech issues....
My advent is just a beast!
I set a 2x9 group (long cage) and never missed a shift on 3 months riding. No chain drops either. I love it. Way better than my deore m6000
That’s legit! I definitely think it’s on par with sram GX. I like the feel of shimano shifting better but then you gotta consider the price difference 🤘
Did you buy a Microshift cassette, too?
@@richarde1355 yes - the whole system is micro shift
@@richarde1355 my cassete is a hg-200 from shimano (11-36, 9 speed). Works perfectly. Chain: kmc x9
Ronan, what cassette are you using with your 2x9?
Great vid! I am looking to upgrade my cassette to the Advent Microshift 11 x 46t 10 speed cassette. What derailleur model number did you use? Is it a medium cage or long cage? Also what size chain ring are you using?
Medium cage should be fine for 10 x 46t but confirm with advent x. Using a 30t front
When the limit screws are adjusted properly, the chain will not drop off on either side even when the cable stretches and regardless of shifting technique.
Yep - my issue was the lower limit screw had backed out slightly ... it’s been good to go since I got it dialed back in
I just did a drop bar budget build with Advent 9-speed. I could not get a 10-speed shifter. Nonetheless, I like it.
I typically ride nice stuff. Is Advent of similar quality to Ultegra or Force? Nope. But it’s just fine. It’s notchy, but solid. Once I got it tuned, Advent has NEVER missed a shift. Like you, it took me about 15 minutes to dial in.
That’s awesome - thanks for info on the drop bar build - notchy is a good way to describe how it feels when you shift - really solid for the price! Thanks for watching!
Not risen one yet but got one on the way for my bike and I am hyped
Mines still running strong 💪
Just bought this set as well, and am really looking forward to installing it soon. Keeping a close eye on deals, there "was" a deal for the derailleur at $65, the alloy cassette at $60 (heh, took the last one off Amazon) and the shifter with the pad at $26 for a total of $151.....too bad I didn't see the better priced derailleur until after I paid full price elsewhere. But if anyone really wants to make this even more affordable, if you still find the derailleur at $65 and the shifter at $25ish, you could save money by going all steel cassette, where I did see on Amazon going as low as $35, which would make this really inexpensive for only $125. For now, I'm waiting for my new cransket to replace a rivetted altus.
Yea - you def have to watch the website closely ... sounds like you did pretty - lmk what you think once you get it installed!
@@FoCoFlowShow Been using this AdventX setup for over a month now. Wow, what a great drivetrain! Easy to setup, have not had to readjust at all yet. Snappy shifting and it just feels solid on the trail. I like that it gives a solid sounding shift. My son's SLX is so quiet that I can hardly hear anything, where I've actually found I preferred hearing the shift on the Advent. ONLY issue or thing about this AdventX that makes me go...why? The paint on this derailleur REALLY attracts dirt! My son and I would ride on the same trail, my AdventX derailleur is coated in dirt. Where as his SLX has no dirt on it. Tempted to wax this derailleur to keep the dirt off! But that's the only negative I so far have on this Microshift system. Am very satisfied with this purchase!
@@travispowers1704 I think waxing it might do the trick! It’s a solid drivetrain for the money - that’s fir sure!
Nice. I can't wait to install mine. By the way what hooks did you use to hang your bikes in your garage? I'd like to do the same. They appear space saving. Thanks!
Basic bike hooks from Lowes if you can believe it and then I hang one bike from the ceiling using a bike storage pulley system I got off Amazon
@@FoCoFlowShow
Thanks.
I installed an AdventX a few weeks ago, and so far it's great. My only complaint is that i wish they skipped 5t between cogs instead of 4t: 11-48t/400% to 11-56t/500%. I'd much rather have greater range than less range between gears. With 36t chainring, youll be able to climb any hill, but cant pedal down steep hills. I think 44t chainring with 11-56t cassette would've been much better. At least, for roads.
I think a 56t would be overkill. I wouldn't mind a 50t big gear... anything more feels unnecessary
@@FoCoFlowShow well, with 29in wheels and the setup I described, there is no gearing for downhill runs. You just have to coast, which isn't a big drawback, but I'd like to test 11-56t with a bigger chainring to see what it would be like 😁
Thanks for the shout out! For chain length, did you only add one inner/outer link? Microshift says to add two of each which is what I did. My chain does seem a little long though, barely any tension on it in the smallest gear.
Just added one overlap and it seems to be right.
Thanks so much for you video!
I have never installed a derailleur and have a silly question; at 3:25 you indicate cutting the cable when at the right length: how to determine when at the “right” length of cable? It seems like the correct cable length could be exacting and important for precise shifting.
Thanks again for your helpful video!
Once you feed the cable through the shifter and down through the derailleur you just pull it so that it is barely “tight” and clamp it down with the dereilleur pinch bolt - once it’s clamped - leave an inch or two and cut the cable behind the dereilleur
@@FoCoFlowShow thank you!
Put 1X10 with bar end on my rando bike, perfect 👍🏻
Awesome combo!
I am gonna take a serious look at Microshift for my cost effective Pugs upgrade.
It’s been solid for me minus a few limit screw issues that I had to get dialed ... can’t Beat it for the price
It’s obviously not better than high end sram or shimano groupsets, but it is at least 75% the quality at 1/5 the price. Can’t beat that for 90%+ people.
Perfect analysis - agree completely
Would love to switch back to a 10 speed someday. I need some more long term testing before I make the change, but you make a compelling argument. Will you do another review on it in a few months?
I was thinking about doing a long term review ... I’ll put it on the agenda if you think that would be valuable
@@FoCoFlowShow Don't do it for me, now I feel bad, lol. Btw, how is the clutch on it? Do you get a lot of chain slap?
@@TrailSage clutch is good - but there is a little chain slap but no dropped chains
What do you think of the Microshift XLE 11 speed?
It looks like the gear range is 11-46 - that’s actually smaller than the 10 speeds 11-48 … I def miss having 11 gears sometimes but overall I love the simplicity of the 10 speed
@@FoCoFlowShow can I put a bigger cassette range?
@@ibby81ae the Microshift website said the derailleur range was 11-46 … I’m not sure if you can run bigger - I’d contact MS directly - they’re customer service is pretty good .
I have it, going up hill is great but flat out sucks, too slow for me
@@drewsmith6066 Interesting - I really haven’t noticed it much - just doesn’t feel quite as smooth to me
@FoCo FlowShow - How is the cassette holding up?
No issues so far !
@@FoCoFlowShow Thanks!
Wait. It matters if I mix up the spacers that came with the purchase of the cassette?
They should only fit one way - and there are only a few that were loose that could be missed or rearranged
Why 11 speed chains? Can 10 speed ones be too short for that big cog?
The length of the chain doesn’t matter. It’s actually the width. The 11speed chain is slightly narrower which gives you a little bit more wiggle room to get the whole system dialed.
I went with the 11 speed chain, because I couldn’t find a 10 speed that was long enough. Works great, no issues.
@@Sr89hot What's your chainstay length and how much links did you need?
@@Sr89hot length shouldn’t be the issues if it’s a brand new chain - assuming it’s an MTB Chain
I have a Shimano CSHG20-7S freehub, can I install the Advert cassette?
Yep - a normal HG shimano 9-10-11 speed free hub body is all you need
The real question is... where I can I buy one for under $180?
I watched the Universal Cyclist website for about 2 weeks for it to come in stock and ordered ASAP... total drivetrain cost was $160
@@FoCoFlowShow Thanks! I just ordered my set for that price. :)
@@KenOtwell awesome!!! Let me know what you think!
Ordered one at Wheels & Sprocket for $167 for the set (cassette, derailleur and shifter).
If I have a Chain ring on their for an 8 speed do I half to get one for a 10speed if I were to get this
By chainring, do you mean the front chain ring? If so, the front doesn’t matter at all. You’ll Want to make sure the rear free hub body (the sleeve the rear cassette sits on) is compatible. Unless you have a super old or super low end 8 speed cassette then all 8, 9, and 10 speed cassettes use the same rear freehub body - so you should be good to go either way
Isn't the sram gx like 375 bucks new?
Yea - it gets up there depending on which version and if you include the crankset
So with the adventX, i should use a 11 speed chain and only overlap one outer and one inner link? ...not two of each?
Some people did two outer links which is what microshift recommends - and the 11 speed chain is a trick I learned from another MTB TH-cam that really seems to help
@@FoCoFlowShow Gotcha. Thanks mein.
@@illhumouredparadox No prob - thanks for watching 🤙
Will it work with a 2 by?
It should work well but you’ll want to double check the dereilleur cage length - some 2x systems require a “long” cage which Advent X doesn’t offer
Big laod of shit. The cassette is loose on mine. Waste of money. Even the microshit website is a pain in the arse to use and communicate for tech issues....