Thanks! I appreciate it, I upgraded from a T495S to the X1 Extreme Gen 3, and I was NOT disappointed. With there was a way to keep the battery running longer though.
Personally, I'd sacrifice the 4k Touchscreen for a Non-Touch FHD just for the sake of better battery life. I currently have a 4k touch laptop and the shorter battery life ruins the purpose of a laptop since it needs to be plugged it in all the time.
I bought the non touch screen version and occasionally I really do wish I had the touch screen. I have a Lenovo flex before the x1 extreme and the convenience of the touch screen is really missed.
I love your review's accruacy - people tend to call this laptop just "X1" or "X1 extreme" whereas you always stick to the full name "Thinkpad X1 extreme gen3"
I've had this laptop for 3.5 years now. The model I have has the 4k screen and 4G. I have been fairly happy with it. My biggest trouble I have had with it is that it runs very hot, so I have it sitting on a laptop fan riser. Sometime I also have a pedestal fan blow on it to try and keep it cool. I had a hardware failure of a extra NVME SSD which I put down to it overheating. Finally, the down arrow key no longer works... just like on my previous lenovo laptop.
I placed one order with OLED display (customized ) .Waited for more than one month . Finally, Lenovo USA told they don't have that product .Now even they don't have the options in their website also . Don't understand .
As for functionality I have found the Extreme 3rd generation to be excellent. I had fears about the fans coming on. They so very rarely come on, it's not even an issue. When they come on, it wasn't bothersome and they came on very briefly. I was skeptical about sound, but sound is very good. If I want even better sound, I'll go to my dedicated stereo system. I bought both the FHD and the 4K display but not OLED (don't care for glossy screen) for comparison. There's no comparison. I was worried about scaling issues with 4k when interfacing with various softwares. I had only one issue with with a screenwriting program, but a quick call to tech support at the software company resolved the issue. The fiber cover on the 4k makes the laptop look way more premium, making the FHD lid look inferior. Some people said the human eye would not be able to differentiate between 4k and FHD on a 15" screen, totally disagree. Things look more washed out on the FHD. It's a no brainer going for the 4k. Keyboard is superb. I worried about coming from an old Lenovo with great key travel, but the key travel here is excellent. The typing experience--dreamy. I have only one issue: the palm pad and the track pad are beyond skin oil magnets. I'm constantly cleaning off palm prints. I can usually clean off most of the palm prints on the palm pad. The palm prints on the track pad don't come off at all. I do have it on quiet mode and no issues at all with fan noise as mentioned previously, no issues with load. Overall pleased. Mind shock coming from a T500.
I’m so torn between this and the XPS 15 to run my business off of but not intensely. PLEASE HELP, heard the battery isn’t good on the Lenovo but heard the XPS has problems of its own
@@IuliusPsicofactum Yes, It is, but you have to understand the ARM processors are on the way... AMD, Apple are already planning rollouts and Intel hasn't even began yet. Intel is going to very quickly because the Sears of the Processor world. They are as much as 7 years behind EVERYONE. These processors are OLD and Heat hogs, the industry is going to switch as fast as it can to ARM because companies [and server farms] will save Millions of $$'s on cooling since it will be greatly reduced or eliminated. Intel is a BIG DISASTER, and you would be well served waiting until the end of the year instead of payment Lenovo [historically known for reaching up the price of old processors machines] just because of the Carbon Fibre containers they bought the rights from IBM in 2005. Additionally Lenovo is a Deep State company now ...part of China and a portion goes to the Communist Military. US Navy, all Airlines are forbidden from buying their products, a preview of coming attractions.
I'm really thinking about getting this laptop for college. I'm going to be studying a mechanical engineering, so aside of just productivity I think it has enough power to run simulations and other software. I also want to use it for Microsoft flight simulator 2020 and drl. Lenovo usually has 40-50 percent discounts so I think the max it would cost me in the lower 2,000 dollar area. Do you think that this laptop would serve me well for it's price or is there another one you would recommend?
Thank you for a good review. I have a question: Can I use a stylus on that screen? I use Microsoft Whiteboard to interact with students in my online classroom. I need that functionality. Does it have it?
I appreciate this long term review! Did you get a chance to charge the laptop via USB-C at all? What is the minimum amount of power that you need to charge this unit via USB-C? I understand that it will charge slower, but it's nice to have this option in a pinch. Thanks!
Does anyone know how to clean the palm pad and track pad of stubborn skin oils? I’ve tried eyedglass cleaner and a paper towel soaked in soapy water then wrung. Doesn’t work.
Is the ram running on dual channel? I have the same Thinkpad gen 3 with 32 gb in single channel and it doesn’t feel smooth. I also have a razer blade 15 with the same processor and goes so much better I don’t know why…
@@rodrigovallejos4082 oh wow, what year was that model? I'm looking at the razer blade 15 advanced, i know razer isn't known for their quality but single ram might be annoying for some of what I have planned (audio production)
Let's face it, any tablet or phone can have good productivity with Microsoft office applications. For this price point that's expected. When covering the performance for a device like this I was expecting to hear heavy-duty softwares that you might have used such as photoshop or autocad...something that hints at its capabilities.
Ok, for the speakers, the lenovo's highs sounded very crisp, the voice stood out with a good mix of bass and treble, though I would say the bass is low. However, the dell sounded more like a studio-quality, but the highs were far away, the bass was awesome, more surround. The apple is very nice, but it's just the bass that's better on the apple, otherwise, the dell has a better mix. If you isolate these laptops, you probably won't even notice the difference as a casual user, given that you play around with the audio settings a little.
@@andrewmarcdavid understood and thanks for replying. Still looks like a good machine to consider. Crazy as it may sound but I miss the early to mid 2000s when large screen tablets and multi modal tablet phone combinations were briefly a thing . Anyways thank you for this update video.
Hi, thank you so much for your review! This was really helpful. I'm a full-time civil engineer that does numerical modeling as well as AutoCAD and Civil3D drawings. Between this one and the Dell XPS 15, which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance, I really appreciate any guidance.
Hi! Im struggling with the same decision right now, so it would be really helpful if you tell sth more about your decision. Which one have you chose? Are you happy with it?
Good PC. Would be nice if keyboard had a full size ten key. For what one is paying for this it would be nice to have a 1080p camera. Still this camera is fair and will get the job done. Mic sounded okay. As far as the speaker sound goes it might not sound as good as the Dell you compared it to but if you listen to it on its own you would get used to the sound and the issue of quality will not be a problem for most people. Port selection much better than the Dell. Also like the proprietary connector. This allows the PC to use as much power as needed and not have to worry about power limitation of 100 watts thru a USB-C connector. Great review.
@@Martin23673 Hey! I really want the extreme too. Specially because the ports options. But check this out, I found a Thinkpad X1 Yoga 2nd Generation (the model from 2017) and it is fantastic. i7 7600u, 16Gb, 256Gb. For only 865 usd. And the 2nd Gen of Yoga had a SDcard reader together!
@@IuliusPsicofactum Nice, is it a refurbished one? Anyway a good deal. I might go for the Extreme because I prefer 15.6" over 14" displays, I like programs to start fast and I am using WSL Linux for software development and appreciate computing power.
@@Martin23673 Yeah the extreme provides the power you want without having to get a work model or a legion. There are not thinkpad legion but there should be haha. But yeah, refurbished. I think this one will make me happy for a while and in some years I will probably get an Extreme, i wanna see how the next generations develope. Maybe they include AMD processors? I wonder.
@@IuliusPsicofactum Thinkpad Legion would be a nice custom job. There will be no Thinkpad Extreme with AMD processor this year, unfortunately, it won't fit into it. Maybe 2022. What I actually like is the midnight blue Chromebook Thinkpad C13 with AMD cpu.
The Ex Gen - sounds really good to me. I like the more rounded sound. The Dell sounded tinny to me. Also the webcam looks great - I would have thought it was more than 720p.
I got the gen 3 extreme and love it. Definitely go for the 4k. I got both the 4k and the FHD. The 4k blew the FHD out of the water. There's no comparison. Also the nicer carbon fiber lid makes it look like a way more premium device.
Nice! What is your primary use for it? I have a new iMac 27” and upgraded the RAM to 32gigs, but my Macbook Pro is getting old, can no longer update it. I am an artist and want to edit film. Worried about fan noise and overheating.
Thanks! I appreciate it, I upgraded from a T495S to the X1 Extreme Gen 3, and I was NOT disappointed. With there was a way to keep the battery running longer though.
Personally, I'd sacrifice the 4k Touchscreen for a Non-Touch FHD just for the sake of better battery life. I currently have a 4k touch laptop and the shorter battery life ruins the purpose of a laptop since it needs to be plugged it in all the time.
I bought the non touch screen version and occasionally I really do wish I had the touch screen. I have a Lenovo flex before the x1 extreme and the convenience of the touch screen is really missed.
Yep, opted for full HD instead. Connect to external 4k when plugged in
I love your review's accruacy - people tend to call this laptop just "X1" or "X1 extreme" whereas you always stick to the full name "Thinkpad X1 extreme gen3"
I've had this laptop for 3.5 years now. The model I have has the 4k screen and 4G. I have been fairly happy with it. My biggest trouble I have had with it is that it runs very hot, so I have it sitting on a laptop fan riser. Sometime I also have a pedestal fan blow on it to try and keep it cool. I had a hardware failure of a extra NVME SSD which I put down to it overheating. Finally, the down arrow key no longer works... just like on my previous lenovo laptop.
Man that sucks.. if you had to go back and chose again what will u choose as ur main laptop?
I placed one order with OLED display (customized ) .Waited for more than one month . Finally, Lenovo USA told they don't have that product .Now even they don't have the options in their website also . Don't understand .
Once this gets the 16:10 aspect ratio, I'll get one without thinking twice.
its close
P1 and X1 Gen 4 have 16:10. The wait is over
@@jsong8282 x1g4 quality issues and noisy
As for functionality I have found the Extreme 3rd generation to be excellent. I had fears about the fans coming on. They so very rarely come on, it's not even an issue. When they come on, it wasn't bothersome and they came on very briefly. I was skeptical about sound, but sound is very good. If I want even better sound, I'll go to my dedicated stereo system. I bought both the FHD and the 4K display but not OLED (don't care for glossy screen) for comparison. There's no comparison. I was worried about scaling issues with 4k when interfacing with various softwares. I had only one issue with with a screenwriting program, but a quick call to tech support at the software company resolved the issue. The fiber cover on the 4k makes the laptop look way more premium, making the FHD lid look inferior. Some people said the human eye would not be able to differentiate between 4k and FHD on a 15" screen, totally disagree. Things look more washed out on the FHD. It's a no brainer going for the 4k. Keyboard is superb. I worried about coming from an old Lenovo with great key travel, but the key travel here is excellent. The typing experience--dreamy. I have only one issue: the palm pad and the track pad are beyond skin oil magnets. I'm constantly cleaning off palm prints. I can usually clean off most of the palm prints on the palm pad. The palm prints on the track pad don't come off at all. I do have it on quiet mode and no issues at all with fan noise as mentioned previously, no issues with load. Overall pleased. Mind shock coming from a T500.
Great !!!!
Subscribed, considered this unit vs the Gen 9 X1 Carbon.
Your transparency has helped my decision making to get the carbon! thats worth a Sub!
If you had the choice between the OMEN HP or a higher end MSI for crisp graphics and excellent sound, which one would you choose ?
I’m so torn between this and the XPS 15 to run my business off of but not intensely. PLEASE HELP, heard the battery isn’t good on the Lenovo but heard the XPS has problems of its own
Tough question, as I love both. Can't go wrong with either one. Both have their pros and cons. See my review videos for each.
Waiting for your gen 4 review!
Was waiting for some new X1 Extreme video. 👏
Wow, I am planning to get this one really soon, and your review is coming up right on time! Awesome. Let's watch this!
Way too High Cost for 10th Gen Chips! 😳😑 These Intel Processors are way behind 🤦♂️
@@AA-flyguy Yeah, but it is a Thinkpad.
@@IuliusPsicofactum Yes, It is, but you have to understand the ARM processors are on the way... AMD, Apple are already planning rollouts and Intel hasn't even began yet. Intel is going to very quickly because the Sears of the Processor world. They are as much as 7 years behind EVERYONE. These processors are OLD and Heat hogs, the industry is going to switch as fast as it can to ARM because companies [and server farms] will save Millions of $$'s on cooling since it will be greatly reduced or eliminated. Intel is a BIG DISASTER, and you would be well served waiting until the end of the year instead of payment Lenovo [historically known for reaching up the price of old processors machines] just because of the Carbon Fibre containers they bought the rights from IBM in 2005. Additionally Lenovo is a Deep State company now ...part of China and a portion goes to the Communist Military. US Navy, all Airlines are forbidden from buying their products, a preview of coming attractions.
I'm really thinking about getting this laptop for college. I'm going to be studying a mechanical engineering, so aside of just productivity I think it has enough power to run simulations and other software. I also want to use it for Microsoft flight simulator 2020 and drl. Lenovo usually has 40-50 percent discounts so I think the max it would cost me in the lower 2,000 dollar area. Do you think that this laptop would serve me well for it's price or is there another one you would recommend?
Thanks for the review bro
You wrote LTE support. But where is the SIM card slot?
Does it have dedicated sim slot if ordered with lte modem?
Where can i purchase this laptop in 2022?
Thank you for a good review. I have a question: Can I use a stylus on that screen? I use Microsoft Whiteboard to interact with students in my online classroom. I need that functionality. Does it have it?
Yes on the touch screen version like the one in the video. Pen does work.
Beast regarst front Poland beast tester performance
Thank you for doing this review.
Can you upgrade to optane memory
Have you tested any of the Lenovo pens with this? I really want the pen input, the track point, and the dedicated GPU.
Yes pens do work. Wacom AES
@@andrewmarcdavid thank you!
Hopefully Gen4 brings many upgrades
Nice to see Lenovo offer all this in a robust Unit!!.
I'm always here with you.
Can you charge with type c cable?
I appreciate this long term review!
Did you get a chance to charge the laptop via USB-C at all? What is the minimum amount of power that you need to charge this unit via USB-C?
I understand that it will charge slower, but it's nice to have this option in a pinch.
Thanks!
Does anyone know how to clean the palm pad and track pad of stubborn skin oils? I’ve tried eyedglass cleaner and a paper towel soaked in soapy water then wrung. Doesn’t work.
It's probably not oil, but the surface eroded as a results of friction. I think it's permanent unless you change the trackpad.
No Ethernet port? ; (
Is the ram upgradeable on this?
Any coil whine?
Is the ram running on dual channel? I have the same Thinkpad gen 3 with 32 gb in single channel and it doesn’t feel smooth. I also have a razer blade 15 with the same processor and goes so much better I don’t know why…
hey cant decide between this or the razer blade 15, any advice?
@@lavs8696 for me the blade run smoother but it’s heavier and less reliable (died at 1 month of use)
@@rodrigovallejos4082 oh wow, what year was that model? I'm looking at the razer blade 15 advanced, i know razer isn't known for their quality but single ram might be annoying for some of what I have planned (audio production)
Let's face it, any tablet or phone can have good productivity with Microsoft office applications.
For this price point that's expected.
When covering the performance for a device like this I was expecting to hear heavy-duty softwares that you might have used such as photoshop or autocad...something that hints at its capabilities.
Ok, for the speakers, the lenovo's highs sounded very crisp, the voice stood out with a good mix of bass and treble, though I would say the bass is low. However, the dell sounded more like a studio-quality, but the highs were far away, the bass was awesome, more surround. The apple is very nice, but it's just the bass that's better on the apple, otherwise, the dell has a better mix. If you isolate these laptops, you probably won't even notice the difference as a casual user, given that you play around with the audio settings a little.
why does the beginning look like I'm am watching a video game with extremely high graphics?
Oof, I am toying between getting this right now or waiting for the Gen 4 to come out
Is there a yoga / 2in1 variant ?
No yoga variant for this one
@@andrewmarcdavid understood and thanks for replying. Still looks like a good machine to consider. Crazy as it may sound but I miss the early to mid 2000s when large screen tablets and multi modal tablet phone combinations were briefly a thing . Anyways thank you for this update video.
I want this laptop for school but i have to save for it
Nice video btw
Hi, thank you so much for your review! This was really helpful. I'm a full-time civil engineer that does numerical modeling as well as AutoCAD and Civil3D drawings. Between this one and the Dell XPS 15, which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance, I really appreciate any guidance.
Hi!
Im struggling with the same decision right now, so it would be really helpful if you tell sth more about your decision. Which one have you chose? Are you happy with it?
Dell XPS 15 Sound was the best quality in the test
Gen 4 with 5800HS + 3050 ti max Q would be sweet. But I guess it will come with 11800H instead, which is not bad, just not as power efficient.
Good PC. Would be nice if keyboard had a full size ten key. For what one is paying for this it would be nice to have a 1080p camera. Still this camera is fair and will get the job done. Mic sounded okay. As far as the speaker sound goes it might not sound as good as the Dell you compared it to but if you listen to it on its own you would get used to the sound and the issue of quality will not be a problem for most people. Port selection much better than the Dell. Also like the proprietary connector. This allows the PC to use as much power as needed and not have to worry about power limitation of 100 watts thru a USB-C connector. Great review.
I have the gen 2 and I love it
Thank you for your help
Yeah I am pretty much convinced this is the thinkpad to go with.
I am still torn between this and the Thinkpad X1 Yoga.
@@Martin23673 Hey! I really want the extreme too. Specially because the ports options. But check this out, I found a Thinkpad X1 Yoga 2nd Generation (the model from 2017) and it is fantastic. i7 7600u, 16Gb, 256Gb. For only 865 usd.
And the 2nd Gen of Yoga had a SDcard reader together!
@@IuliusPsicofactum Nice, is it a refurbished one? Anyway a good deal.
I might go for the Extreme because I prefer 15.6" over 14" displays, I like programs to start fast and I am using WSL Linux for software development and appreciate computing power.
@@Martin23673 Yeah the extreme provides the power you want without having to get a work model or a legion. There are not thinkpad legion but there should be haha.
But yeah, refurbished. I think this one will make me happy for a while and in some years I will probably get an Extreme, i wanna see how the next generations develope. Maybe they include AMD processors? I wonder.
@@IuliusPsicofactum Thinkpad Legion would be a nice custom job.
There will be no Thinkpad Extreme with AMD processor this year, unfortunately, it won't fit into it. Maybe 2022.
What I actually like is the midnight blue Chromebook Thinkpad C13 with AMD cpu.
Looking forward to more long term reviews in the future. Great video as usual.
More to come!
Nice follow-up. Really wish Lenovo would get their stuff together regarding battery life. They're always consistently lower than other brands.
Best review…. .😁
you can buy these now for $850, it's like price of a plastic pavilion
Did anyone else get a Lenovo add for a review of a lenovo product?
I guess it makes sense
Hit that subscribe button people.
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The Ex Gen - sounds really good to me. I like the more rounded sound. The Dell sounded tinny to me. Also the webcam looks great - I would have thought it was more than 720p.
I got the gen 3 extreme and love it. Definitely go for the 4k. I got both the 4k and the FHD. The 4k blew the FHD out of the water. There's no comparison. Also the nicer carbon fiber lid makes it look like a way more premium device.
Nice! What is your primary use for it? I have a new iMac 27” and upgraded the RAM to 32gigs, but my Macbook Pro is getting old, can no longer update it. I am an artist and want to edit film. Worried about fan noise and overheating.
almost perfect, because it does not include a numeric keyboard!!
Isn't this model supposed to be a detachable tablet ?
No, its a traditional clam shell design.