The tree was not 'wasted', it is part of the culture of the NW Salish people. The canoe is a work of art and is used in the annual canoe journey and other cultural activities. The tree, western red cedar, is native to the Northwest, plentiful and is widespread. Cedar is 'used' for many purposes, like roofing, siding and decks and is noted for its lack of cracking. In addition to the canoe, all of the wood on this tree was used for a variety of other purposes, like paddles and art work. If you want to learn more about the culture of the NW Salish peoples, there are a lot of books on the subject and we cover the canoe culture in our introductory video of this educational project.
The thought of someone claiming the tree was wasted must not realize how many " wasted" trees they wipe their backside with..Hmm. A canoe made from a tree or butt wipes? I say canoe any day..
Must be a 400+ year old tree, i struggle with the idea of ending the life of something that has lived longer than all humans alive but continuing a tradition that has been carried on for thousands of years make my whole heart cry tears of joy. What a beautiful and sacred vessel.
Loved the solution you came up with for the split in the bow. That wedge of wood was perfectly done and beautiful....love the flaws in the project, and the uniqueness created!
It's quite amazing that we do the same style of carving with our canoes here on Pohnpei Micronesia in the western part of the Pacific Islands. We are still doing it but not as it used to be. I truly enjoy watching your work.
Cool to read, in the amazone I've seen african maroons do the same. Also the native indians in Suriname are still making them regurarly for fishing in the river. The hollowed out tree is the first boat ever made by men. One found from 8000 years ago in Holland (pesse canoe). Must have been used by our common ancesters and spread the world.
Awesome I hope & pray this fine Indian workmanship is not lost but handed down to today's youth for generations to come!!I Love It, & The Indian People have all my Love!!
Very interesting !! Thanks !! In France archeologists have found similar pieces about 8000 yrs old. This shows that such technology of ship construction was available before the apparition of metal tools : there are experiments that show you can actually do the same with stone axes.
This was an attempt to show how much effort and how long it took for the basic process. Actually it was an afterthought when we completed the project, hence no narrative or music. It is difficult to add audio in TH-cam, once you have posted it. For details of each phase, go to other videos on the subject indicated above. To address the comment on faceting, that is covered in video #3 in the series.
"Dugout" isn't the right word to describe this, even if it is technically correct. "Dugout" brings to mind a rough looking log floating downstream with someone sitting in a hole they've hacked out of the middle of it. This thing is a sculpture, a wonderful community enhancing work of love and skill, a labour of integrity and hard earned confidence.
You know i read a few comments about wasted wood, i can't believe any one would even think that....they took a tree and removed the bits that weren't a canoe. They originally did this with rock tools. Most people couldn't cut a tree down with a stone ax let alone make a canoe out of it. Most people probably couldn't even make a stone ax. Here's a question when michelangelo sculpted 'david' did anybody say ' look at all that wasted rock? ' Heck no. This canoe is really beyond cool, it is functional art. In my book that's the best kind of art.
Note that we didn't attempt to truly replicate original methods and it is correct that steel probably allowed more sophistication. There are no known .records on how long it used to take. It is believed it took many generations to keep improving on the quality and styles of carved canoes, which probably started with crude log dugouts.
Interesting history, thanks for sharing. There is a 70 ft long amazing canoe from your area in the Museum of Natural History in New York City, worth seeing
they are extinct now.. but 400 years ago the those injuns had "hair dogs" raised just for making fabric... the american indians ate a lot of dog in the winter
Amazing craftmanship.Can you picture how much work took(many years ago)to do the same without power and metal tools? Don't you worry about people talking about the "waste".I'm sure they really do waste a lot of paper towels cleaning their fancy houses.
3/4 of that tree is saw dust, suppose you wouldn't need smoking wood for a while. The gent with the denim shirt and long white hair did most of the work, first in last out, would like to see it in motion. Beautiful work, credit to you all.
Remarkable work I would have enjoyed some breaks in the action to have a narrator explain some of the process. In particular, I would love to understand the reasoning behind the faceting step. Does it relieve pressure on the underlying wood? Does it help with keeping lines straight further into the process? Keep up the good work of documenting these skills. We are all better when we understand each other's ways.
Interesting, the last part of the video they fill inside boat with water and I supose they put hot...stones, amazing I don't see that técnique since I was 9 years old in 1973. Saw that in Angola...:)
I wonder what would you feel if a little spark struck the ground? You should’ve moved that shavings away regularly otherwise your work could’ve gone in a glance.
on the Transom on the back of the canoe if that is a proper phrase to use ? about 3 minutes 55 seconds into the video a notch was cut in the back of the canoe and around 4 minutes 15 seconds it was plugged up again , what was that all about ? thank you
I've been interested lately in the PNW Native American flood stories and their accounts of needing to build "giant" canoes. What's that largest rumored to have been built and are you familiar with any of the ancient deluge tales?
Understand your comments, but our objective wasn't to literally reenact the process which was much different 'before contact'', just show a way to do it today.
Awesome video. I love all the people gathering. It makes worth all the effort and brings joy. What does the hot ashes do for the inside of th he canoe?
Well, they didn’t have power tools then, but the basic principles are the same. For more information on NW Coastal Indian canoes watch the other detailed videos in the series.
i thought the video was great, in the past what tools did the Indian craftsman use? i mean they had to chop or saw the log down, and with no metal tools, would stone tools do it?
Before Contact with metal, they used stone adzes which were quite hard and could be sharpened to a fairly sharp edge. There are a number of good videos on the subject.
If you’d been really authentic you’d have used stone tools, which begs the question, just how long did it take to make a dug-out with stone tools? Or did that level of sophistication and style (this is a very complex boat) not arrive until the Conquistadors turned up with steel in the 1600s?
Yes, should have shown final product. Just happened to throw up this partial time lapse, didn't expect it to go viral. To see the final product go to the playlist and see video #11.th-cam.com/play/PLzm0g19jcPtXiHmv9EiE34LqkBE6LUXjC.html
Glad to read this. In modern day with so many tool,should be avoided to making canoe like that way. So many wood wasted(best part of wood). And outer part of wood that actually the worst part was remain 😥 (sorry for bad english)
David: There is a complete series of videos on the process that covers everything in detail...just added a link to the time lapse video you viewed above. Go to the playlist and you will find the faceting process video #3. Couldn't add a link in this comment section or I would have.
No, but even better the Jayhawk Institute has "How To" written instructions and is working on a matching video to be available soon. Check out the website jayhawkinstitute.org/canoes/
If you want to see how these canoes have actually navigated both the Puget Sound and the Pacific Ocean for thousands of years check out the other videos in the series starting with the introduction
Don't believe we ever used the term "dugout". If we did, it was in error. You are correct, this was not a dugout. Lewis and Clark used "log dugouts", very crude and unstable.
The tree was not 'wasted', it is part of the culture of the NW Salish people. The canoe is a work of art and is used in the annual canoe journey and other cultural activities. The tree, western red cedar, is native to the Northwest, plentiful and is widespread. Cedar is 'used' for many purposes, like roofing, siding and decks and is noted for its lack of cracking. In addition to the canoe, all of the wood on this tree was used for a variety of other purposes, like paddles and art work. If you want to learn more about the culture of the NW Salish peoples, there are a lot of books on the subject and we cover the canoe culture in our introductory video of this educational project.
The thought of someone claiming the tree was wasted must not realize how many " wasted" trees they wipe their backside with..Hmm. A canoe made from a tree or butt wipes? I say canoe any day..
Must be a 400+ year old tree, i struggle with the idea of ending the life of something that has lived longer than all humans alive but continuing a tradition that has been carried on for thousands of years make my whole heart cry tears of joy. What a beautiful and sacred vessel.
Wow, it's really amazing to see how much work and time it takes to build a canoe like this. Beautiful work guys, well done.
This is one of the most awesome builds I virtually witnessed.
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Growing up in NW Washington it was awesome to actually see canoes like this on the water. Awesome to see how its done
Loved the solution you came up with for the split in the bow. That wedge of wood was perfectly done and beautiful....love the flaws in the project, and the uniqueness created!
Absolutely gorgeous. Y'all did magnificent work. Blown away by the process.
All that and you didn't show the end result!.
Maddening.
It's quite amazing that we do the same style of carving with our canoes here on Pohnpei Micronesia in the western part of the Pacific Islands. We are still doing it but not as it used to be. I truly enjoy watching your work.
Cool to read, in the amazone I've seen african maroons do the same. Also the native indians in Suriname are still making them regurarly for fishing in the river.
The hollowed out tree is the first boat ever made by men. One found from 8000 years ago in Holland (pesse canoe). Must have been used by our common ancesters and spread the world.
Awesome I hope & pray this fine Indian workmanship is not lost but handed down to today's youth for generations to come!!I Love It, & The Indian People have all my Love!!
Some of the best work I have seen in a while!
Do you do sailboats? Make more videos like this one!
By far the best canoe making video ever. Thanks so much for leaving out the canned music.
Glad you like it...was a very interesting project.
Thanks, definitely at team effort. Very rewarding. The canoe continues participating in the Annual Canoe Journey here in the Pacific Northwest.
OMG!!!! This is a beutiful work! This is how you honor a tree!
One of the coolest things I’ve ever seen!
Our objective was to share the knowledge.excited to see so many people viewing this and the positive comments...thanks
How many days did it take 🥺
Very interesting !! Thanks !!
In France archeologists have found similar pieces about 8000 yrs old. This shows that such technology of ship construction was available before the apparition of metal tools : there are experiments that show you can actually do the same with stone axes.
No one gives a fuck about France.
It's great that these skills are not lost.
Nice to see people work together on one goal good job
This was an attempt to show how much effort and how long it took for the basic process. Actually it was an afterthought when we completed the project, hence no narrative or music. It is difficult to add audio in TH-cam, once you have posted it. For details of each phase, go to other videos on the subject indicated above.
To address the comment on faceting, that is covered in video #3 in the series.
Amazing craftsmanship!
"Dugout" isn't the right word to describe this, even if it is technically correct. "Dugout" brings to mind a rough looking log floating downstream with someone sitting in a hole they've hacked out of the middle of it. This thing is a sculpture, a wonderful community enhancing work of love and skill, a labour of integrity and hard earned confidence.
Good observation on the notch cut out of bow.. it was a defect, explained in detail in one of the videos in the series
A fantastic job. regards
Thank god for no music.well Done
victory is made of million seconds but revealed in one. great effort amazing work . congrats to all genius
This is completely fascinating...only you can't really see what tools are being used & how they are being used. Effective though! Unbelievable
This is great. Thanks for the video
Nice job spreading the wood ... reminded me of high school
You know i read a few comments about wasted wood, i can't believe any one would even think that....they took a tree and removed the bits that weren't a canoe. They originally did this with rock tools. Most people couldn't cut a tree down with a stone ax let alone make a canoe out of it. Most people probably couldn't even make a stone ax. Here's a question when michelangelo sculpted 'david' did anybody say ' look at all that wasted rock? ' Heck no. This canoe is really beyond cool, it is functional art. In my book that's the best kind of art.
Note that we didn't attempt to truly replicate original methods and it is correct that steel probably allowed more sophistication. There are no known .records on how long it used to take. It is believed it took many generations to keep improving on the quality and styles of carved canoes, which probably started with crude log dugouts.
That is a great observation and comment, thanks
I liked it
The work..the company..the spirit..thanks for sharing..
Interesting history, thanks for sharing. There is a 70 ft long amazing canoe from your area in the Museum of Natural History in New York City, worth seeing
Correction Canoe in NYC Museum is 63 ft. Long
wow .... awesome ! and the dog overseeing it all ;) great work !
they are extinct now.. but 400 years ago the those injuns had "hair dogs" raised just for making fabric... the american indians ate a lot of dog in the winter
Amazing craftmanship.Can you picture how much work took(many years ago)to do the same without power and metal tools? Don't you worry about people talking about the "waste".I'm sure they really do waste a lot of paper towels cleaning their fancy houses.
one thing is dearli-y missing : the smell of the wood!!!! must have been heady at times?
I'd love to have seen the end result! ^_^
3/4 of that tree is saw dust, suppose you wouldn't need smoking wood for a while. The gent with the denim shirt and long white hair did most of the work, first in last out, would like to see it in motion. Beautiful work, credit to you all.
I also noted this.
Probably build three if the log was sawn
Remarkable work
I would have enjoyed some breaks in the action to have a narrator explain some of the process. In particular, I would love to understand the reasoning behind the faceting step. Does it relieve pressure on the underlying wood? Does it help with keeping lines straight further into the process?
Keep up the good work of documenting these skills. We are all better when we understand each other's ways.
Wood is western red cedar, fairly stable but can check if not properly cared for.
Very interesting. Still I didn't get that last part though. Is the burnt ash filled inside, shall I ask?
I agree, but TH-cam doesn't allow it once you posted it.
Very interesting to see the build of the boat. But how did they build such an boat in the days before saws, powertools and hardened steel handtools?
Interesting, the last part of the video they fill inside boat with water and I supose they put hot...stones, amazing I don't see that técnique since I was 9 years old in 1973. Saw that in Angola...:)
I wonder what would you feel if a little spark struck the ground? You should’ve moved that shavings away regularly otherwise your work could’ve gone in a glance.
Good point,should have had a video on tools. Adzes of various sizes and materials were used, more detailed carving was done by custom knives
Would have been nice to see the final product.
That is so awesome
Wish video would have shown the finished canoe...
on the Transom on the back of the canoe if that is a proper phrase to use ?
about 3 minutes 55 seconds into the video a notch was cut in the back of the canoe and around 4 minutes 15 seconds it was plugged up again ,
what was that all about ?
thank you
looks like a big knot or section of softer wood...plugged with solid piece. soft bow not so good
What was the purpose for scabbing in a cross grain section, through the center of the tree growth
beautiful work ,, awesome teamwork
its amazing how many skilled Native Craftsman there are in the comment section, Hmmmmm
I've been interested lately in the PNW Native American flood stories and their accounts of needing to build "giant" canoes. What's that largest rumored to have been built and are you familiar with any of the ancient deluge tales?
So what's traditional about it? And if the bear is your brother then why you shoot him?
Understand your comments, but our objective wasn't to literally reenact the process which was much different 'before contact'', just show a way to do it today.
Agreed, and it could use a narrative to better explain what is happening, just haven't had a chance to get to it.
Awesome video. I love all the people gathering. It makes worth all the effort and brings joy. What does the hot ashes do for the inside of th he canoe?
How much would that cost to built with so much labor.
Well, they didn’t have power tools then, but the basic principles are the same. For more information on NW Coastal Indian canoes watch the other detailed videos in the series.
i thought the video was great, in the past what tools did the Indian craftsman use? i mean they had to chop or saw the log down, and with no metal tools, would stone tools do it?
how did the indians cut the wood without steel blades?
Before Contact with metal, they used stone adzes which were quite hard and could be sharpened to a fairly sharp edge. There are a number of good videos on the subject.
wow, how cool is this!?
The project was funded by the Suquamish, Port Gamble SKllalam and Puyallup tribes and the Jayhawks Institute and many volunteers
If you’d been really authentic you’d have used stone tools, which begs the question, just how long did it take to make a dug-out with stone tools? Or did that level of sophistication and style (this is a very complex boat) not arrive until the Conquistadors turned up with steel in the 1600s?
Yes, should have shown final product. Just happened to throw up this partial time lapse, didn't expect it to go viral. To see the final product go to the playlist and see video #11.th-cam.com/play/PLzm0g19jcPtXiHmv9EiE34LqkBE6LUXjC.html
The old way was carving out the hull with fire and stone axes. Think about it when told the "modern" way took three months.
Sorry if this was already asked and answered, but did it end up weighing when it was completed?
Wonderful!
Why was a notch of wood cut out of the bow and then filled back in with a wedge of wood?
There was defective wood in that area, so it was replaced. This is covered in detail in one of the other videos in the series
Nice, that sees my question and suspicion answered.
Amazing build.
It was probably rotten up the center of the tree
looks like a branch, I was worried when i saw it, excellent boat,well done guys, Any other video about this.Thank you
It would have been nice to see the finished product.
Yes, I should have done that. Take a look at the other videos in the series
Brilliant. Paddle out to Lummi island.
Should have done that, sorry. See other videos in series to see the finished canoe
That would have smelled amazing.
Yes it wood
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"Wasted Wood" duly noted and addressed in previous posts. Yes, today's canoes are made from cedar strips and we have done that as well
Glad to read this. In modern day with so many tool,should be avoided to making canoe like that way. So many wood wasted(best part of wood). And outer part of wood that actually the worst part was remain 😥 (sorry for bad english)
You are correct, just forgot, but you can see it on other videos in series as indicated on SHOW MORE
David:
There is a complete series of videos on the process that covers everything in detail...just added a link to the time lapse video you viewed above. Go to the playlist and you will find the faceting process video #3. Couldn't add a link in this comment section or I would have.
Love the skill but how do you not show the finished product?
This was a flaw noted by others as well...didn't expect this much interest...see previous replies
No, but even better the Jayhawk Institute has "How To" written instructions and is working on a matching video to be available soon. Check out the website jayhawkinstitute.org/canoes/
If you want to see how these canoes have actually navigated both the Puget Sound and the Pacific Ocean for thousands of years check out the other videos in the series starting with the introduction
Magnífico!
very good
If you look at the video showing the actual carving process, you will note how they avoided carving it too thin, at how it is done today.
So overall cost of the wood
High quality Western Red Cedar log was valued at around $15,000
From his workers to speak, or good wood. Meaning no ship production
Beautiful
And where is the completed Canoe????
Check out this video, finished canoe shown at end of 5 min video. vimeo.com/83392411
Would have loved to see it finished and in the water
Suggest you look at the other videos in the series
Grate job 👍😎
What was the wall thickness when the boat was done?
about 3/4 inch side walls and a bit thicker 1 1/2 inch on the bottom
It varied, but around 3/4" on the sides and about 1 1/2" on the bottom...covered in detail on video #7-Hollowing out the Canoe
What kind of tree is?
Western Red Cedar
Don't believe we ever used the term "dugout". If we did, it was in error. You are correct, this was not a dugout. Lewis and Clark used "log dugouts", very crude and unstable.
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What is the max weight capacity of the boat.
It's beautiful, but it reminds me of the ACME cartoon when they turned an entire tree into a single box of toothpicks haha
Look at the series of videos, final product is video #11 Final Embellishments
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Ele esteve presente, em todas as céleres etapas!
Boy, they are fast workers !