"Are high profile amateurs worth the money?" Breaking Down Haiden Deegan's Star Yamaha Deal

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  • @GYPSYTALES
    @GYPSYTALES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I think Steve should "go to the amateur races".... You are crazy if you think Haiden isn't going to sell Yamahas. Star Racing also went from zero presence on TH-cam to millions of views a month instantly. The upside to signing Haiden Deegan is astronomical on every vertical. Also, the money that Star is paying his is inconsequential to the money he makes on TH-cam. He signed to Star because that was the bike he wanted to go pro on. Talking about the money he would make signing to Star is like talking about the kind of money Trump would make as POTUS.

    • @wordandi5212
      @wordandi5212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And this why I am a fan of GYPSY TALES.
      Such a solid comment!! You understand the sport and what the sport is after, but you also listen to the people in the sport and you convey things from them as they are presented. Even when you convey your opinion about a topic you do it in a professional manner. So much respect for that!

    • @jasonaday4652
      @jasonaday4652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I watch you and can appreciate your perspective based on previous interviews. The Deegans aside the younger guy seems like his feelings are hurt and that maybe he didn't get a ride or deal that he wanted. He is frankly acting like a spoiled kid. I do think that the whole Deegan family is changing the game and people are starting to see it. Its no secret that even though Chad Reed is huge in his own right they are following the Deegan path with their kids up and coming careers i.e. social media content, presence, and brand building.

    • @washwav
      @washwav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Serious Jase , I’ve watched every deegan episode since 2018 . I’m 24 years old and he’s the fastest most disciplined, hard working rider I’ve ever seen .

    • @tylerwusterbarth2028
      @tylerwusterbarth2028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gypsy tales is 🐐

    • @dirtslicerticer
      @dirtslicerticer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👏good job Gypsy Tales!

  • @nicholasjones5597
    @nicholasjones5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    The hate, shit talking and jealousy of Deegan is unbelievable

    • @triverse1943
      @triverse1943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      fucking true man these mfs really are trying to silence talent with saying he has better opportunities, NO SHIT HIS WHOLE FAMILY WORKED TO GIVE HIM THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND LET THEIR SON SHINE!!!!!!!! this kid is gonna flip the world upside down and shut every doubter up.

    • @socalsurfdude8306
      @socalsurfdude8306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's just to get veiws..kinda sad when they have to pick on a 15 year old kid..

    • @nissan_6828
      @nissan_6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He is fast, no doubt bro, but there are lots of other kids who’re fast who don’t get recognition. It’s always been like this in life

    • @mixalis6168
      @mixalis6168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jealous people are always nasty, shit talking muppets !

    • @The_coachman_on_tour
      @The_coachman_on_tour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'd be amazed if he doesn't dominate his first pro season

  • @TB0NEx
    @TB0NEx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Did you guys watch the Loretta live stream? Every day of every race the chat was full of Deegan fans asking when he was racing/ how he did. The kid is doing more advertising for the sport than every other rider combined at the armature level.

    • @dylanlevy2107
      @dylanlevy2107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Facts

    • @lilt739
      @lilt739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Shoot even pro level. Deegans got the marketing aspect down packed.

    • @leift70
      @leift70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I swear every other comment was about Dedham and they were coming in so fast I didn’t have time to read them

    • @fugginrambo
      @fugginrambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leift70 it was a shit storm haha

    • @justin_wyrick1333
      @justin_wyrick1333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is facts. I mean I only really watched deegans race and pro sport.

  • @GarrettGraf
    @GarrettGraf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I can guarantee Haiden has already sold more KTMs than any other rider to this date

    • @josephcapps7325
      @josephcapps7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I bet Ole RD5 would be hand and hand with him

    • @MrKdr500
      @MrKdr500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really? nobody is going to buy a bike because of a kid on social media that is sponsored....

    • @brock83196831
      @brock83196831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MrKdr500 that's a bold statement, rich people do dumb shit. Like buying a ktm, dumb.

    • @Aus_Dan
      @Aus_Dan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrKdr500 the thousands of kids that look up to the Deagans will if in the market for a bike

    • @johntomasik1555
      @johntomasik1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ummm....unlikely. I'd have to give that to Dungey. Heck, maybe Grant Langston is right up there. He sure had a part in giving KTM exposure in the SX/MX world.

  • @doegang1039
    @doegang1039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Brian has worked so much to create the most perfect foundation to make a motocross champion. You can’t beat Haiden down about that, he didn’t choose to have the life he has but he makes the absolute most out of it. His talent and bike control is incredible, no matter how much money he has

    • @TheRossillini
      @TheRossillini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hymas will smoke him

    • @doegang1039
      @doegang1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRossillini no one asked

    • @TheRossillini
      @TheRossillini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doegang1039 triggered?

    • @doegang1039
      @doegang1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRossillini not at all bro. However my comment said nothing about Haiden beating everyone 😂 you don’t need to hate on a 16 year old kid mate. Surely you have better things to be doing

    • @TheRossillini
      @TheRossillini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doegang1039 not hating just stating

  • @doubleoddbuck00
    @doubleoddbuck00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You guys still don't get what the Deegan's are about! Straight from Brian's mouth... They want the best program/team to win on and sell motorcycles! It's not about the measly Factory contract.

  • @GarrettGraf
    @GarrettGraf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Best part is Haiden has 50X more subscribers (literally) than Pulp who is even questioning this contract.

  • @htiek30120
    @htiek30120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The companies funding the "high profile" amateurs seem to think it's worth their time and money. It's a chance they are willing to take for a select few. If the riders don't perform, the money goes away. There's no need to over analyze Haiden's signing with Star Yamaha. Like him or not, he's been an excellent ambassador for the sport and hopefully he continues to do so.

  • @nissan_6828
    @nissan_6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Leave the kid alone. He’s fast and trains his ass off. That’s what I respect he puts in hard work no doubt and he does deserve what he has, this is life and you can’t change it. Deegan is much better off than most of us and was born into a family like that, but that doesn’t deny the fact that HE DOES work hard and so on. He will eventually be great, give him some damn time

  • @BAYAREAMX
    @BAYAREAMX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Dude is absolutely right. Kids looking up to Deegan are gonna buy his bike brand and gear. Guys in the same class as deegan are gonna buy a Yamaha because of deegan and the hype around the bike. Everyone knows the yz250f is the best bike out right now.

    • @Hot-Dog-Racing
      @Hot-Dog-Racing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He’s talking about the kids just behind that level, not talking about Deegan. He means the kids getting 5-7 in A. He said “Haiden is [selling gear]”

    • @carisi2k11
      @carisi2k11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Hot-Dog-Racing Also the kids that Deegan is riding against already have deals with KTM, Husky and Kawasaki. Noah Viney is now with Honda and so this move is really to maybe give him access to something different to Bennick and Ferry.

    • @carisi2k11
      @carisi2k11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      KTM still has the best super mini and at the 85 level it is pretty equal between KTM brands and Kawasaki. With Deegan it is the merch that makes the difference.

    • @rayr3855
      @rayr3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haiden sells and is damn good at it. One figure last year was KTM sales in 65cc and 85cc were pretty darn high and they estimate due to haiden about 1 million dollars in extra Bikes were sold. Whether that is accurate or not, who knows but do know people buy what Haiden is winning on and that will more than likely continue.

    • @ScottSouthy
      @ScottSouthy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If everyone know the yz250f is the best bike, wouldn't people be buying it simply because it's the best in class, whether Deagan is on it or not.

  • @rhejda203
    @rhejda203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    steve is so off his rocker about some topics

  • @justingutierrez3627
    @justingutierrez3627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Deegans have completely changed the Game. No one gives a F if one of the factories drop a commercial but when Haiden drops a vlog with him ripping his new Yamaha, everyone in moto, old and young are locked in!!! Just check the numbers and I guarantee they reflect!

  • @Jone5y
    @Jone5y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Deegans are the dream team jealousy always comes with success

  • @stephenwilson1012
    @stephenwilson1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Nowadays money is smothering alot of talent. There needs to be a stock A class.

    • @noneofur300
      @noneofur300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn good point. 💯💨👌

    • @xafbxmoto269
      @xafbxmoto269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely

  • @patsharks9605
    @patsharks9605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I question Steve's intelligence sometimes, dude is arrogant and thinks he knows it all

    • @genesis2187
      @genesis2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s been in the game a long time though ?

    • @SidroSagradoMTB
      @SidroSagradoMTB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@genesis2187 yes maybe he is in the game a long time, Wikipedia says he has been a privateer mechanic on the sx/mx circuit for 11 years. I pity the riders who trusted him. :)

    • @fliarshypocritestothebones5698
      @fliarshypocritestothebones5698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Trying to create a controversy who shouldn't be one.. for clickbait

    • @The_coachman_on_tour
      @The_coachman_on_tour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@genesis2187 iv been having relationships along time... Still get them wrong 😂😂😂

    • @JeffJackson86
      @JeffJackson86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and.... thats why i watch/listen. Weege already had humble covered, we dont' need more of that! Steve doesn't know it all, BUT, probably kn ows more than 99% of anybody else in the media.

  • @DanielTojcic
    @DanielTojcic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Low six figures is nothing these days...
    $100,000 is 10 brand new bikes, and $1,000,000 is only 100...I think he will sell way more bikes than that, and he has over a million followers on social media. The social media reach of his setup is large - even if he doesn't kill it the first few years, he will have made up for it in other ways.

    • @matthewwest1262
      @matthewwest1262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can guarantee he has sold atleast 50 ktm minibikes in cali alone😂😂 there has not been a following as big as haiden in any amature comming up so no doubt even if he is a top 10 guy he still will have more people wanting to be him/buying the bikes gear and merch than any other rider right now... not even close from a marketing perspective.

    • @GT-mn3bx
      @GT-mn3bx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      99% of social media followers are never buying anything motorcycle related.

  • @trevorhernandez9381
    @trevorhernandez9381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The family’s social media presence extends WAY beyond the others trying to make Loretta’s. They’ll have the hundreds of thousands of kids watching their videos want to ride whatever bike they’re on, they’re in an extremely unique situation and worth every penny

  • @gabrieljairala111
    @gabrieljairala111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It’s crazy to realize how out of touch Steve Matthew is on amateur racing, these kids that make it to Lorettas get 0 help, I really can’t take pulp seriously anymore after this comment alone

    • @jacobt8173
      @jacobt8173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The top ams get plenty of support. They just can't get paid directly or receive cash. They get around this with giving parents some job title and pay them, or have an account linked to debit card that can be used for expenses but can't make cash withdrawals. This isn't a secret.

    • @GT-mn3bx
      @GT-mn3bx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can pay an amateur 100 million in expense money or endorsements. They just can't cash a prize money purse check from a race for 1 penny.. The Olympics and College ball players have used this loophole for decades.

  • @timmeagherjj2268
    @timmeagherjj2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I bet you’d be stunned how many KTMs people bought because of Deegan. I’ve watched and been around tons of amateurs not only are they smart with his presence the kid can ride the F-- out of a bike. Hats of to them

  • @brian5397
    @brian5397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Old dude is just another hater who doesn't understand capitalism. It's about making $$ selling stuff. If you don't understand it, it's why your on the outside looking in.

  • @SidroSagradoMTB
    @SidroSagradoMTB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Haiden showed a lot of potential racing amateur and Brian is a mastermind on getting the best deals out there. Love it or hate it, but Brian was privateer when he proved himself he can race and win. Can't wait to watch Haiden on the starting gate.

  • @Aaron25thinfantry
    @Aaron25thinfantry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The amount of kids that will go out and get a Yamaha now are astronomical. Yamaha has already won with Deegan. But the kid also has dedication and seems like he is willing to put in the work.

  • @kickstartkrew9924
    @kickstartkrew9924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dumb commentary like this is why Gypsy has way more popularity than Pulp. Why would Yamaha sign a 15yr old, oh idk, maybe the fact that 15yr old has a bigger following than Eli Tomac or Cooper Webb.

  • @petewright6408
    @petewright6408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What hasn’t deegan proven when it comes to raw talent, or ability to sell bikes?

    • @McToads
      @McToads 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xafbxmoto269 you can have raw talent and sell bikes before you go pro.. read before you reply

    • @EmazingGuitar
      @EmazingGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xafbxmoto269 “we want 20 years experience before you’re 20”

  • @cash3015
    @cash3015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This came up on my home page for some reason, but safe to say they were right in investing in him and got their return already with a 2nd Overall in 250 East with multiple Heat Wins and Podiums being the Rookie of the Year.

  • @damiansullivan2126
    @damiansullivan2126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    definition of a grown man who’s jealous of the talent he’s looking at from a kid who’s fortunate enough to get the things he’s got

  • @rodneybennett3555
    @rodneybennett3555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When the mini prodigy turns pro and lines up at the gate. All the pre hype, posturing by parents and press coverage ends and its just the kids vs all the other riders at the gate. It will either validate the pre hype or completely erase it. What I feel for are the kids, they have been training since 3, propped up by their parents and told was the greatest. What happens when they hit pro class and don't make it? For a kid that's all they've known, racing and winning and now they cant do it in the pro's.

    • @nissan_6828
      @nissan_6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbh they will get shit on for a while but eventually they might become the best

  • @bigbuckjoe3
    @bigbuckjoe3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There’s gonna be a lot of kids that don’t even make Loretta’s it will buy a Yamaha want to be like Deegan they look up to him

    • @ħŷpêx
      @ħŷpêx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t even have a bike and I look up to him 😅

  • @jonathangoglin4047
    @jonathangoglin4047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like him and his dad or not, Haiden has it going on. From social media presence to his insane abilities on the bike. That is a package that’s hard to beat. And definitely a package that’s worth a investing you money in.

  • @mcsebbs
    @mcsebbs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This didn’t age well, Haiden is raking it in and will be top in no time!

  • @soxh8ter
    @soxh8ter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haiden Deegan is a very special rider. He is doing great things for the sport already. I find it funny that the blogs and press talk so much about whether he is worth it or not. Just watch, he isnt going to light it on fire right away, but he will leave a huge mark on the sport before he is done.

  • @cknorris3644
    @cknorris3644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haiden Deegan has got a ton of kids off the couch and sold a s**t load of bikes and gear. He's been good for the sport. Who else out there is capturing the younger fans like him?

  • @kipjohnsonwheelsdealsreale1781
    @kipjohnsonwheelsdealsreale1781 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video aged well. Lol

  • @flexdubel5870
    @flexdubel5870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You dont need to proof something?😄 He won everything as a kid lol
    Maybe i just got that wrong

    • @sendaaja8809
      @sendaaja8809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So did Izzi, Forkner, Stroupe and the list goes on and on...

  • @Ajaystylez
    @Ajaystylez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian has worked his ass off & broken bones to give his boy the best tools he needs to compete, furthermore Haiden didnt ask to be born a Deegan but he is & just like his dad he works his fucking ass off to be where he is today.

  • @stevenmcnamee1880
    @stevenmcnamee1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You two are so negative towards Haiden at least give him a chance and watch him race before running your mouths.

  • @Wortexization
    @Wortexization 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bruh haiden worked his ass off to get where he is right now

  • @midwestoutdoors9395
    @midwestoutdoors9395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So why doesn't Hudson dominate? You think Bryan is giving him less

  • @machinainc5812
    @machinainc5812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The negative tones in this video about Deegan is surreal. The kid Deegan alone has done wonders for the sport. Many new kids have come into the sport because of him, plus the attention he brings is great, the bikes and gear he sells... Is amazing and reinvigorating for the sport and helps everyone involved. Even yourselves.
    Should the kid feel guilty he has some of the best gear ?! Fuk no. Every racing scene has the ones with better gear and the ones with weaker gear. If anything SX/MX has less of a disparity between bikes then most pro car racing championships. Its more about the riders. A great SX/MX rider can win with almost any brand of Bike (Jett won 250s on a Honda) while in most car racing championships the best driver couldn't win Champs with a middle of the field car.
    Also, who dafuk cares how much money teams spend on future riders ?? Obviously not all racers succeed but deals are a not decisions teams make lightly. If they take a shot on certain kids its because they believe in them.
    All so negative in this video. Geez

  • @dirtjumpdunc
    @dirtjumpdunc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can tell you 100% Haidan was/ is the reason my kid is riding a KTM. He is part of the reason I ride a KTM.

    • @gpaull2
      @gpaull2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s sad. Think for yourself.

  • @markc9409
    @markc9409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just be happy for the kid if it works out great he might make it he might not. Yamaha sees something in him the kid hasn't hit the gate yet and he's getting bashed just for his name not his talent or lack of talent just his name and worst of all it is coming from adults who would go out of their fucking mind if someone was on their kid like this!

  • @NvSrAgE679
    @NvSrAgE679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When it comes too selling bikes and gear, it’s clearly not just the kids riding at Lorettas. It’s the kids mid pack at local races that’ll want too ride a Yamaha because Haiden does. “Dad can I get a Bell helmet cause Haiden has one?” “Sorry kiddo thats too expensive, but I’ll buy you some Thor gear, Haiden wears Thor gear”. 😉 And if Eli moving to Yamaha isn’t a clear indication that what bikes winning matters, not to mention that it might have been a positive factor for Haiden to move the winningest 250 in years, I don’t know what is. I imagine if it wasn’t for Haiden, less KTM’s would have been sold and more Yamaha’s would have been on the track due to their recent record in the pro 250 class. I’d bet money KTM would have sold less mini bikes during Haidens armature career had he been on any other brand. The Marketing is genius for a sport that has issues marketing. Just my thoughts.

  • @israelrodriguez4718
    @israelrodriguez4718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One year latter Bro what the hell you talking about LOL

  • @TylerDurrrden1
    @TylerDurrrden1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting to see the outcome now. Deegan is the truth. Kids a dog

  • @matthewwhitelaw8530
    @matthewwhitelaw8530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy trying to hate on dangerboy the kid rips it doesn’t matter how much money he has or his parents have that didn’t give him a big set of balls to do what he does

  • @Realhighlife
    @Realhighlife ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guess he's proving you all wrong lolol u all hating on this kid so much....

  • @waynecaudle2204
    @waynecaudle2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His dad set him up for everything and he’s earned it all! He also has come from the back of the pack to win many times

  • @samhansen9715
    @samhansen9715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buddy talks loud and thinks he’s always right and is mad that Haiden is a better rider than every other kid that is going into 250’s this year

  • @GARBO96
    @GARBO96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This aged so bad

  • @kherkvincent7415
    @kherkvincent7415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The kid is working hard and has the talent, I think it's worth it

  • @kirthooper4625
    @kirthooper4625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would anyone who wants to grow the sport be telling any factory to spend less money?.... and Haiden has sold more gear than any pro rider for the last 5+ years straight. This guy just seems completely ignorant and bitter.

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy is a JOKE! Asking if people are buying gear of their favorite rider? AND not wanting teams to fund kids? Bringing less money I to the amateur pool??? Absolute JOKE

  • @lost4058
    @lost4058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy just hates deegan. First of all there’s other kids with just as much help/advantage as deegan at Lorettas. And everyone knows it doesn’t mean as much until you do it in the pros but you can’t take away what he’s done already against other privileged kids. Plus if you don’t think he’s selling a shit ton of bikes that just proves your ignorance.

  • @macedhx
    @macedhx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that six figure deal monthy? annual? how does it work in US?

  • @iShadowMtn
    @iShadowMtn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If they’re selling out of merch, best believe they’re selling dirt bikes

  • @Crnkiee
    @Crnkiee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He has got to we’re he is because he worked for it and so did his dad, his dad created this foundation and he’s building off it, you sound like a bunch of mad riders that are washed up

  • @qrr857
    @qrr857 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hahahaha this aged like milk

  • @MitchConner509
    @MitchConner509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is spelled A M A T E U R . For everyone struggling in here.

  • @htmn4hire176
    @htmn4hire176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Voice text,
    It’s all about the money. From a business standpoint, winning sells product, but so does having somebody with a massive social media. In the case of danger boy, do you have a talented writer, that on paper should be able to compete at this next level, and he also has a massive media presence. Whether he wins or not, he will be responsible for massive sales on every product he’s attached to. It’s business, it’s economics. I don’t follow closely enough to know if there are kids with more talent but just lack support. I’m sure that’s the case somewhere. But that isn’t Hayden‘s fault, nor is it his problem. Hayden having the opportunity and the support is thanks to his own hard work as well as the hard work of his father. He should not be demonized for that opportunity. Now if he fucks up the opportunity, throws it away, Or at some point stops putting in the work, then fine point out how he dropped the ball. But he has yet to do so it’s kind of funny seeing grown men hate on a 15-year-old, Especially when he could likely out ride both of you

  • @briangriffincharlton4323
    @briangriffincharlton4323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s not up to us to say if high profile amateurs are worth 6 figures
    If the team thinks that’s an affordable amount to give them and they think it’s good value for money then that’s up to them

  • @danielcurtis8538
    @danielcurtis8538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Envy is deep …

  • @House_of_Zodd
    @House_of_Zodd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mathis is the CNN of MX

  • @sd3rs184
    @sd3rs184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totally agree with that. I'm sure Yamaha has already seen a growth in sales because of deegan.

  • @buddylight1599
    @buddylight1599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these folks look like clowns now, haiden deegan beat the shhh out of the A and B class amateur riders by 30+ seconds at red bud and threw down the fastest lap, a 2:01 which is faster than everyone's best lap .. everyone, i mean 250 amateur, 250 and 450 pros! LOL

    • @Will-lc1eq
      @Will-lc1eq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is so true 😂

  • @07stihawkeye64
    @07stihawkeye64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a B rider and I bought 3 bikes every year and I got help from my local dealer about 2,200 off bikes parts were 50% percent off ,and Kaw contingency I would race all Kawasaki contingency races and I straight up raced for free that’s fuel ,food , and I didn’t ball out on a 300k motorhome we paid 20k and my trailer showed up and had fun racing,whatever we needed it was on the Kaw card!

  • @PinkuStyle
    @PinkuStyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New to MX but it seems gatekeeping is a thing. Doesn't matter his age or affiliation. He rides hard and willl only get better. Has personality and can sell. He is worth every cent and anyone else along those lines.

  • @jconstantine505
    @jconstantine505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everything wrong in moto. Kids going to race. Then you have kids in a semi with technicians and unlimited parts. Seems super fair and shitty all around. Stock classes only. Change bars and tires, see who comes out

  • @jonathangoglin4047
    @jonathangoglin4047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fully agree. We the parents/riders are generally buying the brand of bike that someone we follow closely is riding. So Hayden is on Yamaha now. Your definitely going to see a crazy amount of Yamahas at the tracks now.

  • @holmser171
    @holmser171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are already more Yamahas this year than there were last year

  • @nathanielstuckey6466
    @nathanielstuckey6466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's ask this one question. Did anyone know any other person in deegans class before the races? It wasn't about the other kid getting the win the titles were "deegan gets landed on" and "dangerboy loses a moto"

  • @JcBonneville
    @JcBonneville 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Problem in general is over hyped amateur kids, that most of the time don’t deliver wins in the pro. Here is Europe, amateur kids are not over hyped in general. Roczen & Herlings were hyped, but delivered. Prado or Kay de Wolf were hyped, but delivered. At the moment, Liam Everts is over-hyped and does not win in EMX250… Nowadays, with strong EMX250 and EMX125 series alongside MX, amateur must delivered good results in those championship, to get a Factory ride in MX2…

    • @markcortis2348
      @markcortis2348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agree,, you got to produce the results over the season, lots of good riders fighting for the rides, the way it should be, 👍

  • @josephcapps7325
    @josephcapps7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve needs to talk to more amateurs.. he would be surprised how many people get no support at all from dealerships now. There’s no telling how many stories we here of people having to make gofundme’s to even make it to Lorettas. I mean doesn’t he know the jerry robin story.

  • @brandontomalewski8277
    @brandontomalewski8277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This kid is super jealous 😂😂😂 suck it up princess. If you were as good as him you would be getting deals to 😂😂😂

  • @mikaj9884
    @mikaj9884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't even watch this, so much negativity, and a sprinkle of jealousy lol

  • @briangriffincharlton4323
    @briangriffincharlton4323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus, Steve is absolutely clueless!

  • @taptoretry7335
    @taptoretry7335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I raced for local dealers when I was an amateur . A lot of the programs work as a lease to own program. You buy 2 250fs and when you are done bring them in and we will trade them out for new ones. Usually what ever bike the dealerships are known for.

  • @mav459
    @mav459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely 100%. I just looked at the Yamaha 450 for the first time in my life because of the Deegans. Been a KTM/Husky guy my entire life.

  • @lukebelay6995
    @lukebelay6995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% people are buying bikes because of this kid

  • @zerrus1390
    @zerrus1390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely ridiculous that you can sit there and say that Haiden is only good because of his dad gave him the best equipment… the kid lives on a bike

  • @450wiz
    @450wiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude stop being a hater you’re just mad because your children aren’t deegan

  • @andy347495
    @andy347495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ferrandis, copper, Nichols, Martin, etc, magazine test and all the people raving how good the bike is, is what has sold yz250f's. Yamaha doesn't need deegan right now, they need somebody in two or three years to help sell bikes.

  • @VlogEpicness
    @VlogEpicness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think he’s more likely to sell bikes to people who are just getting started. Once you are a serious racer I don’t think you care where top level riders get paid to ride.

  • @gregmcdowell4308
    @gregmcdowell4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hayden is for real !

  • @maxracingteam23
    @maxracingteam23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just sold my ktm and going to buy a new blucru tonight because of danger boy

  • @jonathanmorgan8153
    @jonathanmorgan8153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This dude must of been one of the "kids" that didn't make it... sounds like jealousy hating on Deegan lol

  • @steveharris6916
    @steveharris6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So will Brian and Huckson both be on blue now?

  • @brandonfleet9908
    @brandonfleet9908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been wondering the same thing about Deegan. I would have liked to see more on this, but good clip.
    Is he over rated?
    Is he worth it?
    How much of his success is due to having a far superior bike and shorter motos?

    • @ryanbencze
      @ryanbencze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and having his father being Brian deegan doesn't hurt.

    • @thflash09msr
      @thflash09msr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Brandon Fleet Only time will tell if he’s over rated and worth it. I think he will be, but that’s just my opinion. Yeah Haiden did have a superior bike then most of his competition, but he still raced kids with factory bikes and bikes that just had as much money in them as his did. Haiden definitely has the talent and determination for success so we’ll see how the future goes!

  • @deantr100
    @deantr100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deegan has more Insta followers than 98% of pros and a bigger all round social reach than all pro's. He's a huge asset to any OEM and completely agree he will sell more Yamahas this year. Fans have followed his journey since the 50cc days and want to see him get to the top. I'm from the UK and will be coming over for his Supercross debut. Thats the pull Haiden has and that's why OEM's and Motocross need him.

  • @utahdesertrider1806
    @utahdesertrider1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Degans TH-cam vids sells more bike than his racing

  • @mikeb4708
    @mikeb4708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the amateur level a parent would buy a Yamaha because of the Star Racing program not because of a particular rider. It’s Star Racing that makes the Yamaha’s look good in both the 250 and now the 450 class.

  • @mikeybigfoot1354
    @mikeybigfoot1354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm stoked for Hayden Deegan man he's gonna smoke everybody forever ♾️ no doubt he gonna beat Ricky Carmichael'$ record and all others before him

    • @eli9494
      @eli9494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one is gonna beat RC's records in the Nationals and all time wins. You look how high he is above 2nd lol. don't know what you're talking about lol. And it would take a miracle for mcgraths supercoss titles and win record to be beat.

    • @roby029
      @roby029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THATS HILARIUS

  • @stevenkilleen8149
    @stevenkilleen8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's never been a Hayden Deegan before with his TH-cam and his own deals bring huge following and money

  • @jkgolf3060
    @jkgolf3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man Steve you just have a problem with everything don't you

  • @mca200tq
    @mca200tq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might be mistaken, but I think what CC is probably feeling is that, he smokes Deegan and yet is probably making a quarter of what he makes and it feels unfair, even though I'm sure he understands it. Like Tesla stock valuation, it's straight up stupid based on any type of existing performance data, but then there's the whole "future potential" thing and that makes it what it is. To some, that's just "hot air", but obviously not to those writing the checks.

    • @robb8331
      @robb8331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      or fake ex cgi rocketships elon is the colonel sanders of electric gocarts & bottle rockets & now german rave parties.
      tesla stock valuation is obsurd & manipulated up.

    • @bruh-om8ir
      @bruh-om8ir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      CC as in casey cochran? haven’t watched the vid yet but uh i don’t remember CC ever “smoking” deegan

    • @Mason-fj5dh
      @Mason-fj5dh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bruh-om8ir That’s cause it didn’t happen. Idk what the other guy is saying tbh

    • @babygaming800
      @babygaming800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bruh-om8ir cade clason

    • @andyyarrington6401
      @andyyarrington6401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bruh-om8ir yea maybe here or there ,,but no CC66 has not smoked hd38 your right

  • @wahoohoo6864
    @wahoohoo6864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kudos for the Timmy Ferry jersey prominently displayed!

  • @knaggs71
    @knaggs71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This didn’t age well…..😂

  • @FormulaWill
    @FormulaWill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The host Steve is way off base...so far that I am questioning his credibility on other MX topics.

  • @wheels.and.wrenches
    @wheels.and.wrenches 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro... it goes way deeper than that. The place they finish doesn't matter. The difference between 1st and 5th could be one turn, or one jump. Or one start.... the 5th place guy might have better work ethic than the 1st place guy. There's no predicting what will happen. That's why they are scooping them up. The bike set up might be off. The dad might be less invested and less mechanical that the other dad. The amateurs have so much internet and social media followings they may have MORE influence than the pros because other amateurs can relate to them more. All the kids in the top 10-15 are good. Not everyone is going to be a James Stewart.

  • @kelliebrooks9094
    @kelliebrooks9094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey this kid is for real hes getting in shape hes still getting used to the bigger bike...if he can make a habit of getting great starts...an just continue to get better an he seems like hes doing that already...he gonna be fun to watch..he just up his corner speed his jumping is fantastic A...he will be good...ive been impressed..he grown too which helps..

  • @gpaull2
    @gpaull2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went from orange to a blue 250f last year. If there is more blue in the pits next year I think we all know it’s not because of Deegan. 😜