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- can the Mclassic video game enhancer make Gran Turismo look good? We do a full feature comparison to see what the magic looks like
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The problem is using a hdmi link cable from the ps1 because that's doing most of the work before the m classic can do its work but there's no other way around it.
I use the m classic on the original Xbox and PS3 but to be honest it's not really worth using just to get that little bit of cleaning up on the graphic quality and it looks a bit dark with the overall look.
I get good results when using it on my PS4 VR 1 as it gives a nice cleaner resolution and brighter colours. It's not ground breaking but it helps.
Good video by the way.
Thanks for sharing your comments.
I wasn't really sure it was working good at all. That's why I wanted the side by side by side comparison so everyone can see the difference
There is a difference, and I think retro mode looks best. But it's very small for such a high price
If an FSR powered device comes out it will be way better!
Making a product determination testing on one console with one game is absolutely wild.
I'm not sure why, this is the console I bought it for and the game I was planning to play it on the most.
I wonder if you have the same opinion of the guys that test it on the Nintendo switch playing super Mario saying how awesome it is?
@@GearsAndTechtry it in the GameCube it’s like looking at an emulator completely different like a breath of fresh air
@@GearsAndTech The MClassic isn't going to do anything unless your outputting a minimum progressive scan resolution, the PS1 and PS2 are the worst systems to use as a test. If you really want to see what the Mclassic can do you need a console that outputs at least 480p for the majority of it's library. Dreamcast, OG Xbox, GameCube, PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii are where you are going to get your money's worth.
@@Will_ONeillin ps2 works good but need an hdmi converter in a good graphics
I really couldn't see the difference between the 3, personally don't think it's worth the $100. its good to see people trying to keep this original hardware going I mean yeah you could use a PS3 or emulator but for some reason it just isn't the same as the real hardware
Agreed
Not worth the money, cant see any difference?
What a lot of reviews of this device fail to mention is that it gives the best results when you have your TV's sharpness settings at zero. For the first two years I used this device, I had my TV's sharpness settings at 20 and was often doubtful as to whether my device was actually doing the job as intended do you how underwhelming a lot of the results were. After setting my TV's sharpness to zero, every game I've played using this device looks better than ever before.
Cool. I'll have to check it out
For example if you play halo on xbox og theres a difference, if you mess around with it more by switching 3 settings the retro makes a huge difference in jagged edges same with the sharpness ones too. Then put nothing on it and it goes from jagged graphics. But its a cool piece to have.
I think with ai up scaling we will get a better device sooner than later. I'll be all over that when it happens
Hi thanks for the video. I use on a PS2. The Problem that it doesn't do that much is the fact that you have to put out the lowest resolution possible in progressice scan mode over HDMI from your gaming console! Maybe you can try it and review it with an Output at 240p and then let the mclassic work (not at 720p --> can you let the HDMI cable just passthrour the signal?) It will be way better. The same is for PS2 --> you have to use 480p NTSC or / 526p @ 50 Hz PAL ! Then on the same screen a visible chnage is definately visible a make sit an new gaming experience and in my opinion it does a great job. Disclaimer: take a look in the manual there are the different input and output resolutions stated. The mclassic needs obviously a progressive signal, and it only works with progressive scan mode when output is set to 240p, 480p, 526p@50 (in 720p@60 the magic is way less) --> the lower the input resolution the more "magic" happens.
BUT: some gaming consoles DO NOT put out a prgressive scan then its not worthy to use because nothinh happens / only Option on that: aother converter like OSSC converts the signal from interlaced to progressive bevor the mclassic.
I'm Stil waiting for a dlss enabled upscaler. That will be awesome!
@@GearsAndTech thomashetzel2808 is correct, you won't get any help from the Mclassic unless your console is outputting progressive scan like 480p, 720p, 1080p, or 1440p.... That's why the Original Xbox, Wii, Dreamcast, and GameCube look so good with MClassic because just about every game for each of those consoles puts out a minimum 480p resolution. If you really want to get a look at what it's capable of then test with one of those systems.
Enhancements off had better texture detail retention. The textures for the wheel rims are lost in the enhanced and "retro" mode. Although the enhanced and retro mode do have a bit of a juicier color contrast but at the sacrifice of details I mentioned before. Overall it does not by any means seem worth throwing down 100 bucks usd.
I arrived at the same conclusion. I think in time you would get used to it and prefer it. But not for $100
@@GearsAndTech Yeah, that price point is overkill. Not to mention if the end user just wanted stronger color for contrast the TV itself can already do that.
@@GearsAndTechDid you try it on DVD and VHS? This Model is better for me due to space and difficulties issues
I want it to connect my ps1 and ps2. But also the gamecube and other retro consoles. But it seems that I need to by more cables to use it with that adpter, no? Or the 100$ comes with all? Because you showed connecting to the adapter that you had previously. Also I can connect to a tv right? Or does it has to be on a pc?
You can plug it into an hdmi splitter and make everything have a cleaned up picture
It works on anything that has an hdmi input. Tv, monitor etc
@@GearsAndTech i mean, from the playstation/gamecube/etc, converter to AVI HDMI
Thank you for this honest review. My favorite thing is to play retro games on the original hardware (I love that feeling). I'll skip this for now, I'll wait for something better.
No problem. I totally agree. Emulators are cool and all, but original hardware is pretty great
I think fsr enabled enhancers are coming. That will truly be better
Thanks for the video. I bought the Hyperkin for my PS2 slim and my PS1 games look great but my PS2 games are just too dark. I bought a component to HDMI upscaler and my PS2 games look great but my ps1 games suffer from resolution switching problems. Until I pick up a PS1 (that is my plan) I have to keep switching between the Hyperkin and Component cables depending on the game I play. As for the Mclassic, I see the differences but I think it's too expensive and not worth the cost for those slight video differences.
Agreed
For ps1 I got one and play my ps1 games on that. I agree about the resolution switching when playing ps1 games on ps2. It's a pain
Do you prefer the Hyperkin or component cable for the ps1
@@blanchard899 since this post I've had issues with the Hyperkin cable and the image being too dark on both PS2 and PS1 (Diablo for PS1 is a good example). Then I bought an HDMI to VGA converter and the PS1 Hyperkin image looks great on my tv now. So I do prefer the Hyperkin only after the HDMI to VGA conversion for the PS1. but for the PS2 I prefer the component cable.
Hello. I have see your video and I have buy the LevelHike adaptor for my ps1. But I have a problem with the sound and gran turismo 2. No sound on race only and I need to switch aspect ratio for the return of the sound. Do you have this issue to ?
That's weird, I didn't experience that issue
10:02 it looks way smoother on the processing on. At 10:51 you can se a lot of lines on the yellow/black arror with the processing on and retro mode on. 11:08 0.25 playback speed and look at the top of the car by the windshield. you will notice the car looks smoother on the processing on and the retro mode on. At 11:17 you can see the retro mode on looks worse.
It seemed like it took a lot of looking at slow speeds to really see a difference
Bro can you please teach us How to Solder a scuff reflex Analog Module. I need to replace mine
Some things even I don't want to do.
The inside of the scuf is a mess. Opening it will cause more problems than you fix
I like how the New tvs make games look
I have the M Classic its ok
It's disappointing how little it changes though
I didn't see much difference. Apparently, the minimum input resolution for the Mclassic to work is 480i which the PS1 doesn't do.
It up scales it though
Will this fix the resolution syncing/signal issue for games like Silent Hill?
Yes. It did for me. Since if upscales all signals your monitor or TV won't see a change in resolution anymore.
Look mofos dissing on this on ps1 it does increase quality but compression on TH-cam doesn’t do it justice. Also for GameCube the change is day and night it has quality like using dolphin emulator
I hear it does good on switch too
Does the Mclassic reduce the input lag caused by the cheap HDMI pass through devices ?
There is no way to reduce input lag after the fact.
They just claim they won't make it worse
Ummmm its not connected backwards is it? Like the the hdmi on the m in the input i think and the other end is the actual output. Ive played gt2 from start to finish and i see like no difference. Out of everything i think that in theory work for the ps1 but it didnt really have such high output quality or something I think. Ive seen it on a hd tv through a ps2 with actual smoothing on and it does look sightly better. On ps3 actually like makes it better but also bad kinda at least in my head anyway. Because im positive the "retro" mode has to be with scan lines like with the CRT tvs and its not there like at all
M side is the OUT to your TV. The opposite end goes into your HDMI port on your system.
If you do it backwards you will get no signal from the system until you hook it up correctly.
@@GearsAndTech oooooh ok i get it now
Back when I was looking for hdmi solutions for my ps2 and game cube I just went with ps2 to hdmi and hyperkin. I didn’t feel like the mclassic made a big enough difference to justify the 100+ dollar price. As for ps1, I put it back in its box after I got my ps2. If I wanted to play a ps1 game I played it on my ps2, and on ps3 when I got one. Unfortunately I skipped out on most of the ps3 era so I didn’t get a ps3 until the slim model came out. So I still need a ps2. However when Sony decides to take ps3 offline, then I’ll mod my ps3 and put my ps2 away.
I had skipped ps1 but my kids recently got me one for my birthday
I have to say there is a certain amount of nastalgia using the original hardware
Plus my ps2 hdmi didn't work right with ps1 games.
Awesome device, definitely does wonders on fat ps3 and switch. Not useful for next gen consoles as it can’t to its processing with full hdmi 2.1 bandwidth.
Enhancements off if definitely the lowest the other 2 are a tie in my eyes
I agree. I think retro mode is slightly better. But only slightly
as you said, i couldn't see any difference either. to get better graphics you need a better console
Nah, go look up the comparison where someone uses a good cable. The LevelHike cables just suck and don't use RGB like they think
Have you tried the rad2x?
Not yet.
that is an r34 sir
you are correct.
This honestly might not have been the best game to try this with, and the levelhike cable actually suck.
It's the game I was most interested in playing, and wanted to look as good as possible
NO ANY DIFFERENCE !
It's there but minimal
I have a better product i bought a 2006 Trutech TV at a yardsale for under $40.00 and my retro games look awesome 😂
That works too
el mclassic no funciona todo lo veo igual
It's marginal. But it does make a small difference
Basically zero difference
I couldn't see a whole lot either
Not worth the money at all, hardly any difference
I found the same
That product a joke it doesn’t make any difference that why all the retro games are available on newer consoles or they are remade into remake’s which are graphically enhanced.
Did you check the side by side comparisons?
There is a difference. It's just very hard to modify the image in real time and not cause input lag.
@@GearsAndTech I noticed a slight difference on a newer televisions that you used by switching the button on this device but it still just not worth $130 dollars to retrofit an old console when I can by an emulator console for the same amount of money and can do more graphically.
If you can find an old crt to hook up to and keep the classic console in its purest form that would be best remember there are limits to how far you can push an old console because of how hard locked they are.
No, they used crappy cables. Go look at a side by side of the RAD2X + Mclassic vs OSSC + Mclassic. There is ABSOLUTELY a difference when you use quality cables.
@@Helladamnleet Exactly
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