Champion Quality Inconsistency - Animations

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  • @Yvädastra
    @Yvädastra 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +70

    It's like comparing Skarner and Viktor's VGU skins against Sion's or Warwick's. Old Riot used to put a lot more effort into updating their older champions.

    • @Snarflez
      @Snarflez 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Updating champs has never been profitable for them. I know they have the money. Just good luck getting the investors and higher ups on board.

    • @FieryAnubis
      @FieryAnubis 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Snarflez That's because they already exist. Investors care for green numbers. That's why $300+ skins are being churned out left and right now. Gotta appease those while also trying to update old stuff. This business model of always doing the investors' bidding needs to end already. It's ruining multiple companies.

  • @lastcrustacean2154
    @lastcrustacean2154 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    They mentioned somewhere that any time a champion has a Run_slow or special animation that plays during stuns/knock-ups its never part of the release "checklist" for things they need to make prior to the release, but instead a passion project of whoever was animating her. Tristana has a slowed animation and she only has it because the person behind animating tristana wanted her to have one and had time to make one prior to release, the same goes for others like Viego who has a stun animation, K'Sante who has a knock-up animation, etc

  • @haipa7480
    @haipa7480 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    14:51 An important thing to note is initially people complained about Yone's run animation being a walk, so they gave him an actual running animation and made the old one his dynamic battle stance. Sigh. Back when Riot cared and listened to feedback.

  • @castielrainyday8531
    @castielrainyday8531 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    Crazy how Dota, a game that isn't as popular, has consistent animations with every hero release

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Valve has pretty much infinite budget from Steam already. Still Dota's polish is leagues ahead of League that's true, although sometimes they do slip (ahem PA persona attack sound).

    • @kami_two
      @kami_two 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      They cook once a year, while league cooks once every 4 months.

    • @castielrainyday8531
      @castielrainyday8531 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @kami_two is it really called cooking? It feels like putting shit into the oven

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Many mobas that aren't as popular have vastly superior tech/clients/UI/UX compared to League.
      Rito is too big to fail and the clueless/complacent fans aren't helping.

  • @I0lcatz
    @I0lcatz 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    Zoe 1 trick here. The passion poured into this champ in the animations and particles in INSANE. They have never been updated yet they beat even modern animations. She has 3 Walks, Run, Home guard, 3 separate "stop moving" animations, Slowed walk, Knocked up, At least 2 Ult animations. A number of random idle things. She will interrupt her walk animation to stick her tongue out at enemies. HER HAIR ACUTALY TRAILS BEHIND HER, like it turns when she turns.
    It makes playing other champions hard, they just don't seem as alive.

    • @fumiooncracc4161
      @fumiooncracc4161 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      omg no wonder why Zoe feels so alive, playing her is just like scooping butter dawg

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@I0lcatz Yes, she's extremely well done!
      And then we have Viego, who is just a stump on legs...

  • @Jabrilgalien
    @Jabrilgalien 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didn't even realize the voice was AI until I read the description, sounds quite good.

  • @RoloRolla
    @RoloRolla 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    While the topic is not as interesting as your previous one i enjoyed this video a whole lot more, great job!

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      wonderful, I'm glad
      would you elaborate on what you liked most of the other video and most of this one?
      and what about those you didn't like?

    • @RoloRolla
      @RoloRolla นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      What I liked most about the other video was the topic since I also dabbled with champ animations for my videos and projects and I could say "Exactlyyyyyy" to every point you made about satisfaction and feel and "oomph". In this video your points were razor sharp and every second was well used to express your points. While the dynamic of "new thing > champ that has it > champs that don't" got a bit old nearing the end it's good that you point out these inconsistencies (I didn't even know Diana has a run while looking back animation).

  • @nicolassantacruz1453
    @nicolassantacruz1453 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yet another banger, it was about time someone started calling riot out on their bullshit, i dont recall any other content creator ever highlighting this issue, riot was getting away with it, scrutonizing them probably wont change anything but its best people know they're being ripped off, good job man

  • @DJFoxBox
    @DJFoxBox 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    This was shockingly interesting

  • @pwpqwq7648
    @pwpqwq7648 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you. I always hated it when a champ didn't have a certain animation. I always check whenever a new champ releases if they have a "stop in place animation" or a "run faster animation" and such, and always get disappointed when there isn't one

  • @akhen0950
    @akhen0950 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    this is insane brotherman

  • @unconscious5630
    @unconscious5630 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +77

    Pls dont use the ai voice its awful

    • @kami_two
      @kami_two 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its good for me

    • @sesa4755
      @sesa4755 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@kami_two Run-Terra
      Wiot

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's aight.

    • @azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk
      @azimli52_kurnaz_ironi_anti-ilk 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      +1

    • @luvvduvv
      @luvvduvv ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      who gaf

  • @RadiantRegal
    @RadiantRegal 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really liked your Viego video, I'm happy you're doing another one in the same style, they're really entertaining :]

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed

  • @hollygardner459
    @hollygardner459 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the old Viktor walk animation, if you buy him a boots he will run animation, now it's gone

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      My God, that's so true!
      I could have totally put it in the video... aghh, so much stuff my brain melts

  • @TheOneOfAll
    @TheOneOfAll 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    Great video. Definitely looking forward to VO inconsistency. There is a lot to talk about when it comes to overall lack of quality and more importantly consistency.
    For example the weird pasting of newly dubbed Yasuo quotes during Yone release that heavily clash with his old persona. Not only the voicelines make little sense when it comes to the time period Yasuo is when saying them but also the voice itself is audiably more mature which makes it that much more jarring. They could have just update all of his voice lines instead of adding only a few.
    There is also an issue with Lucian whos original VA Patrick Seitz for whatever reason was recasted upon senna release but also Riot decided that the new VA is not capable of grunting properly and thus Patric still makes all the shouts during Lucian Ult. This is of course not an issue on his High Noon skin.
    Speaking of skins some of them like Spirit Blossom Yone happen to have new First move Voice lines as well as new Ult voice lines, despite their usual price tag. These days however Riot hires new VA's for the Arcane series rather then sticking to the one fans are already faimilar with but when it comes to the actual game we are listening to the original voices... that of course is the case for the newest and more expensive skins.
    The new series that Riot is making is on their way and we will most likely have to deal with another set of unfamiliar actors doing their take on whatever retcon Riot will write in them. It will be especially painful when it comes to someone like Darius who's original VA is no longer doing the work for him and instead Riot hired a new Voice for God King as well as any media and cinematics after it release. This means that with the new series Darius will be having third voice. The inconsistencies are stacking upon each other.
    There are a lot more weird decisions that Riot made like deleting interactive gameplay system. Back in the day Yasuo use to call out Riven Q and R wind slash with unique quotes during the gameplay, nowdays those quotes were move towards the first meeting line which makes no sense. A lot of character specific interactions like Swain having unique Taunt response to certain characters like Darius or Urgon are gone. He also have unique voice lines while moving depending if his team is behind, even or ahead in gold.
    There are countless of other examples of Riot ruining already existing voice over, creating more inconsistency or never building upon the amazing and unique interactions in between specific characters but im sure youll cover all that in the video.
    On a side note it would sound way better if it was you that actually reads the script. None of my buissness to tell you its money wasted but it does sound jarring quite often even if youre paying for text to speech. Best of luck.

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pretty much all stuff I wanted to talk about in the VO part, yeah. You nailed it.

  • @BrandyJaffar
    @BrandyJaffar 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is so niche i love it!

  • @1stmanedwolf
    @1stmanedwolf 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yooo this guy is cooking! Keep it up!!

  • @misterious-cabbage
    @misterious-cabbage 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im glad someone actually talking about this small but important thing. Also there is more inconsistency then just animation ones - some champions and their abilities even newer ones looks just horrible. I mean - look at Qiyana kit - her grass Q is just giant rectangle with some grass flying in the air (we are talking about nature magic btw) and her ult is just Corky's empowered E around the wall after subtle wind blow for some unholy reason. Qiyana is fun and all but her kit looks ugly and random.

  • @castielrainyday8531
    @castielrainyday8531 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Riot constantly does half assed stuff it's not really surprising, fans don't care enough though

  • @Humanentity3888
    @Humanentity3888 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the case with Wild rift as well, Champions use to have an animated pose in champion sellct & befor game starts up, And since 2023 to today, This animated poses is super rare to be found.

  • @gustavoalmiron7687
    @gustavoalmiron7687 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Antes de su rework Aurelion Sol tenia una animacion vinculada a la expansion de su anillo de estrellas, dicha animacion consistia en que al finalizar la habilidad y retraer su anillo de estrellas el campeon giraba sobre si mismo, esto representaba la transicion desde su estado de velocidad de movimiento por defecto hacia un estado de velocidad de movimiento aumentada por la pasiva de la habilidad, no estoy 100% seguro pero creo que esa animacion ya no se encuentra disponible🗿F

  • @onebeets
    @onebeets 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    the production quality is wild here, great video :)

  • @relightrobot1543
    @relightrobot1543 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Interesting video.
    I also think it is important to highlight these shortcomings because of the issues with readability, particularly going forward with skins. I know some of the readability issues are overblown/used to snipe at Riot and some are pretty legitimate but I think what you highlight with knockups and stuns is important to take a look at in this context.
    I have to imagine that it takes more work to make a skin than a knockup animation... and you'd think something like that at bare minimum would now HAVE to be standard.

  • @gearguts7259
    @gearguts7259 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with you in all the points but I recommend changing "it looks cool" and "it looks badass" for "It's consistent with the character" or "it tells us more about who they are" or things like that.
    Not because you are wrong, you're not, it looks absolutely fucking amazing, but the problem is that ik some people are going to dismiss your entire argument on the basis that "cool" and "badass" are highly subjective attributes.
    Great video, btw! Its wild how inconsistent Riot can be.

  • @firstnamelastname3550
    @firstnamelastname3550 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good stuff, looking forward to more

  • @szepiz
    @szepiz 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    really nice video! thought I was watching some big league youtuber, hopefully one day you will be

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@szepiz that's a huge compliment, thank you!

  • @eebbaa5560
    @eebbaa5560 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    this channel is peak keep making videos like this. the viego one was already really well-made and this one is a step up. interesting premise and great execution.

  • @liucanthewhitewolf1198
    @liucanthewhitewolf1198 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    AAtrox mains actually use stance chance to detect hiding enemies.

  • @dingas5632
    @dingas5632 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Good video, the ai narration is awful though, I would finish the video if it was silent and captioned.

  • @lastijeras-i3f
    @lastijeras-i3f 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    good video, keep it up

  • @ptlemon1101
    @ptlemon1101 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You have no idea how much I love your videos. Riot should watch these and get their shit together.

  • @starkravenz7008
    @starkravenz7008 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    samira doing the stanky leg

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    We can't have these bc Rito hasn't made enough money off $500 gacha skins. Pls don't bully the sm0ll indie company. /s

  • @daleodorito
    @daleodorito 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think I myself could do all the missing animations on within a week giving that all the rigging is already prepared and none of them need much detail or length giving the format.
    A basic knockup animation for an humanoid would take me literally like 15 mins?

  • @123silverslash
    @123silverslash 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is a really interesting topic. The AI TTS though is a big detraction. Your own voice, even if you're self-concious, would make this much better. If you're shy, I'm sure a voice actor would be willing to help you, even for as little as free, if you asked around on voice acting gathering hubs.

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for your words. I'll consider this.

  • @anormaluser5750
    @anormaluser5750 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I mean youre right but I also feel riot just makes run slow animations on champions that may have pieces of clothing hanging out or kinda shaking, so it doesnt look as weird. knowing this company, im glad we at least got that

  • @miguelMickSummer
    @miguelMickSummer 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Theres something so weird about Viego, the main villain and force of the Ruination, is the worst looking champ of the Ruination batch, look at them, Akshan, Gwen and Vex all look great and have smooth animations and gameplay, but Viego doesnt, hes so janky looking

  • @saas_ziv
    @saas_ziv 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    It´s really frustrating to see some old cool features being discarted like that. They are implemented just for being nice and giving the character more life, but just like that they´re gone. It really cost that much to have them? And yet they brag on and on about quality and their "biggest budget" nonsense. At least I hope that sweet gacha skin money helps with that, right riot?
    Great video, man. Found out about you with this one and already caught my attention. Gotta see that Viego video now!

  • @casualslothtv
    @casualslothtv 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You do you, but if you're willing to give it a shot using your real voice I'll be here for a long time.

  • @gigidyify
    @gigidyify 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Brown?

  • @ohno429
    @ohno429 4 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I'll be vaiting for part 2

  • @Whocares-th9fw
    @Whocares-th9fw 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    But doesn't Seraphine have a run slow animation like she's going out of breath?

  • @peyches00majickmanshin2
    @peyches00majickmanshin2 2 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I get your point but you're forgetting this is all apart of riots plan. Why make consistently well animated champions if that just makes the high-end skin tiers ($$$) harder to stand out? Those guys dishing out $250 for a skin will be sitting even prettier on their Riot favored throne of animation superiority.

  • @gray8885
    @gray8885 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cool vid and all but using ai voice is trash

  • @nicolassantacruz1453
    @nicolassantacruz1453 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Also, sorry for the little spam, i noticed you havent used any specific thumbnails yet, id be willing to edit/draw you some thumbbails for your channel, i really like where your content's going

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I thank you so much for your offer!
      I actually draw the thumbnails myself generally for other channels I tried to push out content for... but when I published Viego's video on this channel, which was purely for Reddit/Community purposes, I noticed that I did waaay better while having no thumbnail at all than when I actually put effort in making one.
      Which is why I actually uploaded a thumbnail similar to Viego's video to see where it's going.
      But if I decide to change style of thumbnail, I know who to ask now
      I'm not sure how much I'll manage to keep up with churning out content anyway... I wish I could work 24/7 on this, but it's hard

  • @wtf.is.this.new.alias.system
    @wtf.is.this.new.alias.system 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dont get me started with skins...
    Price means nothing some have no changes while others have a lot of love put into them but have their animations broken and never fixed,because riot diesnt care.
    Pyke ctrl5 doesnt work fir all skins, something always happens yes but his legendaries ironically dont change visually.
    As for broken skins, mecha kingdoms jax has many animations and effects broken by an update still to be fixed.
    Its been years and it feels like no one besides me noticed. A little detail which isnt broken about him is his reactive ult shield.
    Technically vfx not animation but it has a different hit effect depending on direction and damage type (physical/ap)
    Inconsistency certainly will get worse, 96% of players dont care or notice the small details that some rioters add and even neccesary things like new animations for a legendary are looked over by people, soul fighter samira an ultimate was extremely lacking while being an extreme financial success. People often dont know that legendaries are supposed to have a new set of animations.
    Ive never seen anyone mention kaisas lack of evolutions, only base and bullet angel have very slight tweaks, they should be as noticeable as kha zix evolutions.
    Not instantly knowing wether her q or e are evolved can easily get you killed it should be important information.
    Also riots technical limitations oddly only activate whenever something is underperforming. Weve seen what they can do and their current plan is 1 gacha scam every month. They have 3 forms something that was impossible for samira and their concerns about crashing the game with too many ultimate level skins apparently is also gone since theyre monthly.

  • @Trus_G
    @Trus_G 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    dude, are you shy? why are you using ai text-to-speech?

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Trus_G Could be that I'm shy, could be that I find my voice and accent devastaging for the public even though I tried, just like it could be that I lost my voice when I was 8 and I'm unable to speak at all...

  • @Oliver-yf7zu
    @Oliver-yf7zu 24 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Here we go again, blaming an indie company for inconsistencies. Dont you think these guys have their hands busy trying to make another 250$ skin?

  • @danielmolnar4326
    @danielmolnar4326 39 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    sorry, but if you cant see if a champion got knocked up and in the air, you belong in iron elo

  • @3L4.
    @3L4. 35 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    You make me remember Saus the ssbm TH-camr

  • @Keurgui1
    @Keurgui1 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why does your voice sound like Yuri Lowenthal

  • @solivamvp424
    @solivamvp424 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    man aphelios was not metioned. In first release on that champ was awesome, he was like flying when he was sprinting and other weapons have unique animation walks. But things happen, aphelios was broken so they nerf alot, even the walk animation was gone forever. 😢

  • @kctr_ch7021
    @kctr_ch7021 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bro i play wildrift somhow i build Solari, BORK, Boots of denamis, Collector, Divine Surender and Dead dance his Walking Animation didnt change throught out the game. same with Nasus when u build full AP

  • @enderminn804
    @enderminn804 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    why pay for a service, that people generally look down upon (ai text 2 speech) when your voice would be just fine. Personally, i like the effort and passion about a topic that's being discussed. But using AI to replace something so simple as talking feels like you're looking down on your audience. neat vid tho

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    A big part of LoL is always lagging behind several years because Rito lacks the balls to man up and bring the whole game to a fresh, modern level all at once.
    It's a shame.

  • @kami_two
    @kami_two 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bro need a good thumbnail

  • @pesky2119
    @pesky2119 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    At least they put more effort than you did by using ai voices

  • @sansukanaka
    @sansukanaka 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Couldn't go past min 2. The AI voice was obnoxious

  • @polygondeath2361
    @polygondeath2361 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm going to be honest, this video is 15 minutes longer than it should be. You had 21 minutes to explain why and/or how riot should implement more animations and failed to do so. If you don't see the slowness effect below your feet, you don't need more visual clarity, you need better eyes. Additionally, it is fairly clear when you do get stunned and set airborne as it literally tells you so on the screen. I originally skipped over the attacking tower and walk/run animation section as I assumed they'd be of no use. In order to make a fair comment, I watched them over, and I was proven right. The majority of this video can be set into probably 10 slides over 5 ish minutes with an ACTUAL HUMAN VOICE.
    All in all, poor video quality, and especially poor argument.

    • @ex_oLL
      @ex_oLL  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@polygondeath2361 I understand, thanks for the feedback.

    • @thegrilledfishsballad
      @thegrilledfishsballad 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      you had 15 paragraphs to explain to us why his video is "bad" and you failed to do so.

    • @4x13x17
      @4x13x17 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@thegrilledfishsballad tbh i found the video a bit redundant in many portions and information can be clarified and perfectly summarized in half of what is actually said. a bit tough to watch and to stick with, specially for someone who's been playing for 10+ years like me.

    • @polygondeath2361
      @polygondeath2361 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ the comment was 2 paragraphs, and I explicitly stated how the video could be much more concise and how it failed to raise its issue as important. Your comment is just wrong and antagonistic for the sake of being antagonistic. Your comment has no constructive value.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds like fan cope and deflection.

  • @erikpaulli9669
    @erikpaulli9669 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    You are not so clever .

    • @FatahBlue
      @FatahBlue 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      wdym??

    • @thegrilledfishsballad
      @thegrilledfishsballad 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      whats with these bots hating on mu guy🥴