I love it when those bush-planes do super short landings. first time I saw these in fullsize I was so amazed (with their ballon tires, river landings...) That's why I had to have the Multiplex Funcub (similar to the Tundra but from German RC company).
+RCSchim I too have a Multiplex Funcub on which I've modified the landing gear and upgraded the motor but looking at this video and several others featuring the Durafly Tundra, I believe this will out fly the stock Funcub which is a huge assumption considering the popularity of the Funcub over the years. It will be interesting to see how the EPO measures up against the Elapor foam construction of the Funcub.
Hey Bruce you should tape on flow threads/strings to see what the airflow is doing over these simple flaps... as I recall you can here or see shuddering......Rgds....Laurie
Nice one Bruce. Only just come across the Tundra 2. Have you done a review on it yet? Was wondering if it would be suitable to teach my 10 year old son to fly on.
I see your FRSky Rx antenna is poking up through the foam. Does it affect range negatively if the antennas are buried in the fuse on a plane like this? Mine are placed inside, both on the horizontal plane, but at 90 degrees to each other. Should I change that?
+FlyingMerf Foam doesn't have much effect on radio but something like carbon fiber will. So its fine inside a foamy, but in planes with metal or carbon fiber you need to be careful where you put your antenna.
any point in using alerons to add xtra flappage? I set up my axn elerons to act as flaps and alerons and works well to slow down for landings and for slope soaring. (aleron spelling may be incorrect but good use of flappy paddles)
+Craig Kinney The problem with "flaperons" is that you end up getting some pretty noticeable adverse-yaw problems and it can also induce tip-stalling. The Tundra is already pretty "wobbly" in the roll axis with lots of flap deployment so I think that flaperons would exacerbate this tendency.
Are you inputting the strong pitch down angle when the flaps are dropped or does the Tundra pitch down like that? Amazing how fast it bleeds off the speed when leveled for landing.
What safety procedures do you have in pace for flying at a 1:scale drome? I fly at my local drome as I have my own plane there but never without a spotter with a VHF radio
+James Lovell I haven't looked but I expect there's a bit of double-sided sticky-tape behind the servo which holds it in. Brute force and ignorance will probably be your only ally in removing the faulty servo :-)
+xjet Thanks for that. tape would be better than glue!. Only three flights and the servo falls apart! wish they had used quality servo's and left out the water ski's!
Definitely, the servos are very cheap, they glitch a lot, and tend to lose its neutral easily. On mine will be replaced with Hitec soon... The floats is a waste of money for many, its a little steep on the price compared to other airplanes of the same scale and specs.
+mikbacitube LOL... in this flight I was deliberately slamming the flaps on to get the steepest possible descent. In normal flight and short-field landings I use much less flap and apply it more progressively. I'll probably post another video at some stage showing how that works.
+Nimrod Bash Yep... although when you add power, a significant amount of prop-wash is deflected straight down and that contributes to the lift. On the glide though, they're pretty much just air-brakes. The most effective angle for creating more lift and creating sustained slow flight is about 30 degrees.
Thanks for the video but it's pretty difficult for the viewer to determine how steep the approaches are from an FPV perspective. If you could have someone shoot a video of the same but from a second person view it would show the world what you're really doing.
thats why i say screw flying at a feild and fly where ever you want, bunch of stupid egos and wanna be presidents and vice presidents of these clubs trying to have some kind of power and control over everything with stupid rules and ama this ama that. i said screw it and fly where ever and when ever i want as long as i know the plane isn't to heavy or big that can cause some damage, like gliders and foam planes i just fly at the park, i don't see why something like this would be illegal at a club, this is fun to test the air brakes out like this, fascinating to see how the drag from the flaps slows it down allot for a much shorter landing area. if i was at an air field like the one you go to I'd purposely fly an old plane i didn't want anymore into there little club house and hope that the gas would smash out of the tank and than splash everywhere and than catch on fire somehow and burn it to the ground.
+Mat Helm The point of doing a full flaps dive is to bleed as much energy as possible, as fast as possible. Diving with full flaps bleeds your energy during and after the dive, resulting in a very effective loss of energy. Diving without full flaps will result in a higher energy state after the dive, thus resulting in a less effective energy loss method.
Arcium Energy is altitude. You'll find that energy burn would be exactly the same either way. Only with a full flaps dive, you risk ripping one or the other off and burning a hole in the ground. Which is why no one would ever try this in a real plane...
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Love that, flaps down full, bang, nosedive!
I love it when those bush-planes do super short landings. first time I saw these in fullsize I was so amazed (with their ballon tires, river landings...) That's why I had to have the Multiplex Funcub (similar to the Tundra but from German RC company).
+RCSchim I too have a Multiplex Funcub on which I've modified the landing gear and upgraded the motor but looking at this video and several others featuring the Durafly Tundra, I believe this will out fly the stock Funcub which is a huge assumption considering the popularity of the Funcub over the years.
It will be interesting to see how the EPO measures up against the Elapor foam construction of the Funcub.
Looks like a lot of fun!!
Love the POV, Bruce.
+CradyLab Still can't comment over at RCMR =(
Ron can do steeper landings.
+Green Silver LOL... so true!
+Green Silver Hahahahah! X¬D
+xjet still pulling up to soon Bruce, you need to use the ground pitch assist effect lol
+Green Silver Ron aims at negative altitude.
DjZorlag Hah! Subground flying!
Hey Bruce you should tape on flow threads/strings to see what the airflow is doing over these simple flaps... as I recall you can here or see shuddering......Rgds....Laurie
Awesome friend!
Bruce,
Nice camera perspective.
Nice one Bruce. Only just come across the Tundra 2. Have you done a review on it yet? Was wondering if it would be suitable to teach my 10 year old son to fly on.
Late reply, but yes they are a great trainer as long as you keep the speed up
I did a steeper landing than that once, needed dustpan and brush to collect the plane after but.........
jokes aside, great video.
cool camera position
+jamble7k Unfortunately it moved the CG back quite a bit so it became a handful to fly -- but still fun.
+xjet Hi. What camera did you use? Will it lift a GoPro?
Need view from the ground footage!
hi nice to still see some paint on the tyres or are they a new set great video as normal
Hope for My first Test of My Tundra today...
I see your FRSky Rx antenna is poking up through the foam. Does it affect range negatively if the antennas are buried in the fuse on a plane like this? Mine are placed inside, both on the horizontal plane, but at 90 degrees to each other. Should I change that?
+FlyingMerf Foam doesn't have much effect on radio but something like carbon fiber will. So its fine inside a foamy, but in planes with metal or carbon fiber you need to be careful where you put your antenna.
Just a thought. Is it possible to mount a camera at a pilot's perspective? That would really make it realistic.
any point in using alerons to add xtra flappage? I set up my axn elerons to act as flaps and alerons and works well to slow down for landings and for slope soaring. (aleron spelling may be incorrect but good use of flappy paddles)
+Craig Kinney The problem with "flaperons" is that you end up getting some pretty noticeable adverse-yaw problems and it can also induce tip-stalling. The Tundra is already pretty "wobbly" in the roll axis with lots of flap deployment so I think that flaperons would exacerbate this tendency.
All I can say is "Bush"! You'd make a great Bush Pilot Bruce. There's a job waiting for you in Alaska!
Can you control the flap deploy rate with your transmitter to slow them down a bit?
hello cheers from California.
Love your videos.
Flaps should come in at about 2 seconds.?.
G'day,
Yay Team..!
(Team Smucking Fartarse !).
Well done Olde Chappie...
;-p
Ciao !
If you turned on braking on your esc would that help act as a brake?
+HighFlight2k2 Actually, a slowly spinning prop usually creates more drag than a stopped one.
+xjet Cool to know. Counterintuitive. Ty!
Are you inputting the strong pitch down angle when the flaps are dropped or does the Tundra pitch down like that?
Amazing how fast it bleeds off the speed when leveled for landing.
What safety procedures do you have in pace for flying at a 1:scale drome? I fly at my local drome as I have my own plane there but never without a spotter with a VHF radio
1:25 You couldn't get the flags to come down any faster, Bruce? Kinda slow... ;-)
+ElmerFuddGun Yes, I'll have to replace the stock servos with tail-rotor ones from a heli :-)
A bit windy it seems
Help! does anyone know how to change tundra flap servo....they seem to be glued in.
+James Lovell I haven't looked but I expect there's a bit of double-sided sticky-tape behind the servo which holds it in. Brute force and ignorance will probably be your only ally in removing the faulty servo :-)
+xjet Thanks for that. tape would be better than glue!. Only three flights and the servo falls apart! wish they had used quality servo's and left out the water ski's!
Definitely, the servos are very cheap, they glitch a lot, and tend to lose its neutral easily.
On mine will be replaced with Hitec soon...
The floats is a waste of money for many, its a little steep on the price compared to other airplanes of the same scale and specs.
@xjet What about the floats? How is it to fly off water?
+Christopher Lanzén I don't know. There is nowhere around here that we can (legally) fly from water so I doubt I'll find out any time soon :-(
+xjet Get the gen from Ron about landing and you could use a bucket!
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Sorry Ron. ;¬)
Bruce, Is it me or the main tires won't spin at all on grass ?
+pavcon It's probably a strobe effect with the camera... tires spin fine.
So much for the slider option then 😉
+mikbacitube LOL... in this flight I was deliberately slamming the flaps on to get the steepest possible descent. In normal flight and short-field landings I use much less flap and apply it more progressively. I'll probably post another video at some stage showing how that works.
what kind of camera are you using? Can I find it on hobbyking? THANK YOU
i think if the flaps are more then 90 degree in proportion to the air flow they are more of an air brake then flaps (;
+Nimrod Bash Yep... although when you add power, a significant amount of prop-wash is deflected straight down and that contributes to the lift. On the glide though, they're pretty much just air-brakes. The most effective angle for creating more lift and creating sustained slow flight is about 30 degrees.
nice
Great video! What camera did you use to make this shots?
// Fredrik W
Sweden
+Fredrik Wergeland This was filmed with a Mobius action camera.
Thanks for the video but it's pretty difficult for the viewer to determine how steep the approaches are from an FPV perspective.
If you could have someone shoot a video of the same but from a second person view it would show the world what you're really doing.
Dont you wish the manufacturer would turn their molding tech to fully functioning Fowler flaps??...I do...Rgds...Laurie
Give us Ron back!
what cam you using ?
+Highteckhobbies That's a Mobius. I used that because it's the lightest HD cam I have and even so, it made the plane quite tail-heavy.
Some video OF the plane would have been nice.
+Johnny “Exacto” J There's video of the plane on my RCModelReviews channel.
They not flaps. They behave like them there spoilers they lower and retract that quick.
That flap is a brick maker
Amazing how much punishment that plane can take.... ;-)
+MIGUEL H. M.M. I'm sure I don't know what you mean :-)
yeah, this would be illegal on my field
thats why i say screw flying at a feild and fly where ever you want, bunch of stupid egos and wanna be presidents and vice presidents of these clubs trying to have some kind of power and control over everything with stupid rules and ama this ama that. i said screw it and fly where ever and when ever i want as long as i know the plane isn't to heavy or big that can cause some damage, like gliders and foam planes i just fly at the park, i don't see why something like this would be illegal at a club, this is fun to test the air brakes out like this, fascinating to see how the drag from the flaps slows it down allot for a much shorter landing area. if i was at an air field like the one you go to I'd purposely fly an old plane i didn't want anymore into there little club house and hope that the gas would smash out of the tank and than splash everywhere and than catch on fire somehow and burn it to the ground.
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Dang it Bruce! Stop posting this stuff! It is taking me too long to save back for my plane...
Not seeing the point of a full flaps dive?... Full flaps pull out and landing yes... diving... no
+Mat Helm It's fun!
+Mat Helm The point of doing a full flaps dive is to bleed as much energy as you can, as fast as possible.
Arcium Then you don't need the flaps until after the dive...
+Mat Helm The point of doing a full flaps dive is to bleed as much energy as possible, as fast as possible.
Diving with full flaps bleeds your energy during and after the dive, resulting in a very effective loss of energy.
Diving without full flaps will result in a higher energy state after the dive, thus resulting in a less effective energy loss method.
Arcium Energy is altitude. You'll find that energy burn would be exactly the same either way. Only with a full flaps dive, you risk ripping one or the other off and burning a hole in the ground. Which is why no one would ever try this in a real plane...
cough basketball cough
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Should say, steep shite landings 🤣
👤 *tundra the air plane my dream*
👤 *i buy one tundra* 1300 *mm after assembly the tire wings etc the airplane he staying four month in my house i have asked you the question* sbus or connection computer and simulation flight* ? and you* 🔇 *he didnt walk once* *THE BIG SHIT*
🤣🤣🤣...
👤 *aA* *aA*
*TH-cam VOILA LAVION DMON FILS*
Don't try that in a real plane lol.