I have actually now been flying an old school high wing nitro trainer, size 40 with about a dozen full flights........I just ordered the Tundra and it will be my 2nd plane....any helpful tips on the flap settings you can recommend , as I'd like to just slow fly it..no aerobatics yet ..thanks again for your input....
Missed this one, hopefully you're still flying. I recommend mid rates 80-90% with 30-40% expo. Keep around half to 3/4 throttle and you'll be smiling, it's a gentle plane with no real bad habits.
I didn't expect the Tundra to be more aerobatic than the Timber. And that's what I'm looking for. Also The Tundra is 80 euros cheaper here in europe so it's an easy choice for me. Thanks for the video, very informative.
the timber is extremely aerobatic he just wasnt flying it as such. dont forgrt you can adjust the servo therows and adjust the lincage on the horns. use 0 expo and full throws
@@weasele1 Nope, the timber has a slower roll rate, slower pitch rate, about the same on rudder. The smaller wingspan of the Tundra gives it the edge in aerobatics. Both are great planes and do separate things well from each other. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the comparison, I have both and each one is different and fun in its own way..The Tundra is more nimble and his more power in my opinon but the Timber with the AS3X, is more stable in higher winds.. Happy Flying...
How do these two planes spec out, side by side? Do they have the same wingspan, length, motor sped., prop? Do they come with the same or equivalent servos? How does the all-up weight compare?
I've been waiting for this video, a side by side of these models. I looked real hard at both and bought the Timber, I like it. May buy the Tundra as well. The Tundra has more roll rate and more power, much quicker. However I like the STOL capabilities of the Timber with the STOL slats. Your killing me, Gotta get the Tundra. Excellent battery choice I use the Glacier exclusively. I have put a 4000 MAh Glacier in my Timber. A little Nose heavy however manageable. Usually use the 3000 MAh or the 2600. Thanks for the demo.
It's a good flying plane, really no winner here just based on flying style. Also if you like bush planes check how the 65 inch or 84 inch turbo bushmaster by legacy aviation. It's the best rc plane I've ever flown.
Well this should get them all talking on rc groups great video. I ordered the Timber because I have better customer interaction and support from Horizon Hobby.
I love my parkzone sport cub but the landing gear are a weak. The sport cub flies like a trainer to me, and it is gorgeous in the air. I do feel the sport cub is a much better looking bird than the timber. The tundra is nicer looking than the timber as well. I almost bought the tundra. I love buddy rc, glacier packs are great, and they are nice and light.
Cory Reeves , I bought th PZ Sport Cub to replace the three channel Hobby Zone Cub, and then got the Tundra to replace it. These are the toss in the back seat and drive to a field type of planes. I also have the CZC and it is awesome, at 84 inches it flies well. the only con is it's landing gear.
I had the parkzone sport cub it was great a little under powered but a great flyer. I had the carbon z t-28 it flew great but I sold it. The carbon z cub is a great flying airplane but the landing gear could be better.
Cory Reeves most either modify the wire one on the CZC, buy the real expensive custom gear that's listed on RC Groups, or use the stock Hangar Nine one which is more affordable. I'm in the middle of my video build of Hangar Nine Carbon Cub, and it is sweet and one good looking airplane. Needless to say the gear on it is awesome and works well.
Thanks for the review. What receiver are you using for your planes. I want to buy one of those planes and set up with my Taranis. Which receiver would you recommend.
Thanks for the comparison. I actually waited until the Tundra was here before buying a Cub type model and I'm real happy with it. It does well on the larger batteries; I use a 3200mah 3S 60C and (with a new ESC), slap in a 4S on occasion. Clear Skies to you, .................. bill
Great video. How do you find the Durafly Tundra for transportation in the Car? Can the wings be taken apart ok? The screws that hold the wing struts do they screw into a captive nut or just a plastic thread? Would love to have this plane but am concerned it wont travel to and from the flying field so well :)
There are four screws holding the tundra wings on that are rather small. The timber has two larger nylon screws holding the wing on and is easier to deal with. What size car do yoy drive? I had a sedan at the time of this video and both fit in my car just fine with wings on.
@@SasquatchPNW Thanks for you reply. My Car is not so big, most of the planes I fly need the wings dismantled for transport. That's not a problem but it does mean I have to be careful about the planes I buy. This looks like a great plane but I think these small screws will wear out and cause a problem..I will have a look at the fixings on the Timber...Thanks for your time, much appreciated. Regards, Pete
@@PeterWinnett This is also the single reason why I might will have to look towards the Timber for both storage and transport, even though its nearly twice the price, did you get either in the end, and are you happy with it?
@@Fromatic I ended up buying the FMS Kingfisher. Great plane, easy to transport, big wheels for rough ground and is also a STOL plane.. It also comes with floats for the water.. Good all rounder :)
Nice review! At first I thought you'd have been better comparing the PZ Sport Cub with the Tundra as they are a more similar 'scale', however I see the Tundra holds its own against the bigger Timber. Half flap looks better for takeoff imho :)
I wonder how these would work with reversible ESCs? I realize the prop has to be stopped, but likely just zero throttle would be enough. But if short landing is a "thing", that roll-out would be a lot shorter if the prop were giving a bit of forward thrust.
They’re both neat planes but the Tundra is way cheaper. I’ve always had pretty good service from HK and it looks like they’re carrying plenty of spares. Great video.
Both are really not beginner planes, look at the Apprentice or Techone EZ trainer at motion rc. I'd say these are second planes as the Timber is weak and breaks easy while the Tundra can tip stall if pushed hard enough.
Actually if you watch the video the Timber got in the air faster with the flaps than the tundra. The timber had hardly any roll out at all and the tundra at least rolled foot and a half before it left the ground. ] both awesome planes but I'll have to give it to the timber. Thanks for sharing this with us very cool video and talented pilot
I am a novice, currently have a Timber UMX, ( with flaps) on a soccer size field, surrounded by trees. Have you tested the air speed of both planes on flaps/no flaps. I am looking for a plane that flys SLOW, so I can safely maneuver on a small field.
Both fly very fly with and with out flaps, but overall the timber would be slightly slower due to the bigger wingspan. I have flown the 1500mm Timber at an indoor event before if that gives you an idea how slow it can be.
Good video again! Kinda suprised that besides the wingspan they are just about the same in size. I had the idea the Timber would be bigger. Tundra still the more interesting flyer for me, and the known good quality and durability.
Love that air field,where did you get that material and whats it called. even the bare ground is nice. Both Planes are nice fella,I would buy eather one. The idea behind the big tires is to take off and lsnd in less than ideal landing zones and you take off from the nicest looking field ever. Try some rough tall grass area' s. That is what they were designed for.
Thank you Scott, I've been told the material is an industrial dryer sheet. I'm unsure where to get it, maybe google it for your area. I wanted to use the runway to show the distance each plane needs to take off. If you want to see the best runway ever, check out my MXS baby metal video. Best rc field I've ever seen and flown at.
That is correct. and we got the sheet from the local paper mill in Millwood. We had much more but the remaining sheets were delivered in smaller uneven pieces.
Agreed the Worst and then the Clowns at Eflite Just Released a 1.2 Version of it with a bunch of Good Changes EXCEPT THE BATTERY PLACEMENT POSITION......Gawd you idiots....
i think the only way to compare the two would be to just fly the heck out f both under dif conditions. I was flying my timber yesterday and today in conditions most would not fly. very windy. take off was immediate. I was coming down from over 100 feet altitude on landing approach in a sharp dive leveling off at the end and touching down with hardly any forward roll. in my opinion with the foam tires, lights which come in handy when flying past sunset, the shocks for the anding gear and its ability to fly aerobatic. this is the best plane I ever had. as for comparing the 2 I thing they are just to similar. there foam airplanes i dont think there will be much difference. I would love to figure how to drop both ailerons slightly with full flaps to further low down the plane. I consider my self strong intermediate, I fly full throws with 0 expo. I never fly with expo. infarct i re did my rudder and set the rudder servo to 150 throw and placed the linkage on the furthest out hole in the horn I can do a flat turn with ailerns and ruder on a dime. love this plane when landig in wind with full flaps a little power makes for a smooth landing instead of bouncing
Put A 13 x 6.5 On The Timber & It Will Be Half As Much Better!!! And Come It At A 30 to 45 degree Angle With A Bunch of Flaps & Elevator Then It Will Land In A Few Feet Also, Especially If You Install The Leading Wing Edge Spoilers!!! LOL Thanks...
Eric sin sinner 30% expo with all rates at 100. No dual rate switch. start at 80 throw with 30 expo if you're unsure or a newer flyer. thanks for watching!
tjrosenberry Ok cool, I have a friend getting the Timber he is a novice, I have a Funcub and using 100/20 and 75/20 for just landing/takeoff, he will probably be using the safe for starters so better use like 80/25 as not to limit the throw to much and later like 100/30 high rates, thanks
Hi, nice video. Just ordered the Timber BNF, I like the as3x and SAFE, being a beginner. Also have the Taranis, modded with a Spektrum Tx. Could you share, how to setup the transmitter ? Thanks in advance .
Both planes are similar, the Timber is the easier plane to fly and the Tundra is more fun to fly and provides more room to grow with. If you go with the Tundra, make sure to get the COG correct so you have a lesser chance of a tip stall. Your Batteries will fit either plane, but the tundra will carry them easier.
The Timber will out STOL the Tundra all day any day. Add the leading slots and it'll be even better as a pure STOL plane. That said the Tundra is more aerobatic and versatile in the air. I think it depends on what you really want. for lazy flying and learning tailwheel the Timber is better. I don't think there is any way to say that on the whole one is better than the other. great video though!
Thanks! personally I can't agree with that, after adding the slats the Tundra still takes off faster than the Timber. The Timber still lands way easier though, to me it all on preference. Another round with slats on and in the dirt to come.
I would recommend as a second plane, a good beginner plane is the Super Cub LP, Hobbyking Bixler, techone tuff trainer to name a few. The Timber is a stable airplane but does not take abuse well, and as a beginner you will crash at some point. It is better with a trainer style plane as they can take more abuse and are easier on the wallet. Also check out the flite test tiny trainer, you can scratch build it for less than $80.00
Anthony Gennello If you make it tail heavy yes, if you follow the cg in the manual you'll only a tip stall if you're using full flaps and pushing it to it's limits
Not on this flight, wanted an out of box comparison. Tomorrow morning round 2 commences, slats on and in the dirt as that seems to be what everyone wants.
I did, and it made it slower but killed the aileron authority which is to be expected. I actually took it to an indoor event and did 3 stressful but very controlled laps in the area of two basketball courts. The UMX planes flying around it looked like nats lol, no one could believe such a big plane could fly indoors.
Well after about 1000 flights, dozens of crashes, adding leds, and it getting stuck in a tree for a week. I finally sold it to a friend for 20 dollars. I have a Orange and black one now. It was still a good flyer all the way to the end.
Tundra a few more $$ in the air,,,, my trainer calls the Tundra junk, but I am beginning to find him wrong about everything he says. if I buy the Tundra, I'd use the Timber receiver.
Don't need the Timber receiver in it, look at Lemon RX receivers with gyros built in. I'd say the best pure trainer would be the Apprentice or the Techone Ez trainer. I did find the Tundra easier to fly then the Timber for me personally. If you're getting into the hobby start with something small and cheap that's 4 channel, also get a Simulator it will save you all the money. People that have been in this hobby for a long time have a hard time accepting competing products and call them all Chinese junk. When in fact almost everything in this hobby is Chinese. Thanks for watching and enjoy which ever you buy!
The Apprentice makes a good camera plane but the places I fly make me desire a STOL plane.,,,,I need one that flys stable, so the video isn't jerky. slow smooth changes.
Anyone who tells u the tundra is junk is insane. I own both and I prefer the tundra 95% of the time.... The timber is a bit better as a STOL but the tundra is better in every other way.
@@SasquatchPNW actually Chinese made products are cheaper and higher quality, win, win for chineese made products. Unions make US products less quality and more expensive, facts are facts. However you can buy crap. US and crap Chinese products.
I can't paint a line in the grass/dirt as it's leased property and I don't want to create unneeded drama. Thus why I used the red line on the strip to show how close these planes are at takeoff distances. I'll be recording a dirt battle this weekend.
Not a fair comparison....Tundra rolled further before you pulled up, ... and half flaps and full flaps traveled about the same distance on the Timber ? SO what you did was near the same but NO tow TO's are the same every time..... If your going to do it...you need markers to see the distance traveled etc....counting the holes ( dots) on the blue tarp...seems the tundra takes off faster, except when you let it roll to far......and landings who knows they were all over the place. Both seem to be nice planes. But i have already seen and heard about Motor and Rx failures on the Timber ( uncharacteristic with HH ) and the Tundra remains on B.O. and they are still trying to fulfill the orders at HK I passed on both
I stated at the beginning that I was comparing TOs only, landings roll out too far with no wind so there's no point in trying to compare distance. I did however, mention stability on landings. I attempted 3 TOs with both planes with no flaps, half, and full. As I don't own the strip I cannot modify it to add measurement markings. This was more to show how close these planes compare when it comes to STOL. Recently HH has had some intermittent QC issues, but no manufacturer is perfect. It's if they're willing to correct the issue, that will be what I'll be watching for. CZ Cub still has a bad motor being shipping in it... I tried to Hold the elevator down on both planes during TOs if that didn't happen for one TO, then I guess opps...I did state that I think the Tundra is better on TO. Thanks for the comment!
When HobbyKIng drops the ball and you get a lemon I hate that even though they have US warehouses, Customer service is such a pain. I love the prices and HobbyKing is a go to for batteries, but I have had more stuff from HK fail than I have had fail from Horizon Hobby, and Horizon is always easier to deal with when resolving issues for me than HK. That is why I opted for the Timber myself.
I like the Tundra better. However you are right! I ordered an airplane from Hobbyking and they mailed me 5 Radios! Then I almost had a stroke trying to fix the problem through customer support. It felt like I was trying to talk to gold fish! I mailed back the radios and never got a credit for the $100 shipping. You roll the dice when you deal with HobbyKing.
I have a dynam pitts python that I like it is nice, and I had the durafly old crow again a very nice airplane. I also had the HK 1400mm piper j-3 cub made by star max a beautiful flying 4s powered cub. Then I had both the HK Pitts special made by Art Tech it is junk, had the HK Hummer profile 3D plane it was ok but mostly junk. Last it was fun but fragile cheap fun and not worth the money. The durafly flybeam. I have had my share of HK airplanes some good some not so good. The tundra looks very good.
Crack Beaver forever!!!!!!
Great comparison of these two planes, the best I've seen yet. Thank you
Very useful comparison without a winner, but I personally prefer Tundra. Thank you very much.
Exactly! thanks for watching.
I got the hang out of the reverse function and I'm able to stop the plane when it touches the ground in 1 meter, super cool feature. Good vid btw
Thank you!
Finally somebody can shoot a video.. Great job. I bought the Timber, Horizon Hobby has a much better customer relations dept. Horizon Rocks!!!
Thank for watching, Enjoy the Timber!
I have actually now been flying an old school high wing nitro trainer, size 40 with about a dozen full flights........I just ordered the Tundra and it will be my 2nd plane....any helpful tips on the flap settings you can recommend , as I'd like to just slow fly it..no aerobatics yet ..thanks again for your input....
Missed this one, hopefully you're still flying. I recommend mid rates 80-90% with 30-40% expo. Keep around half to 3/4 throttle and you'll be smiling, it's a gentle plane with no real bad habits.
I didn't expect the Tundra to be more aerobatic than the Timber. And that's what I'm looking for. Also The Tundra is 80 euros cheaper here in europe so it's an easy choice for me. Thanks for the video, very informative.
the timber is extremely aerobatic he just wasnt flying it as such. dont forgrt you can adjust the servo therows and adjust the lincage on the horns. use 0 expo and full throws
@@weasele1 Nope, the timber has a slower roll rate, slower pitch rate, about the same on rudder. The smaller wingspan of the Tundra gives it the edge in aerobatics. Both are great planes and do separate things well from each other. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the comparison, I have both and each one is different and fun in its own way..The Tundra is more nimble and his more power in my opinon but the Timber with the AS3X, is more stable in higher winds.. Happy Flying...
How do these two planes spec out, side by side? Do they have the same wingspan, length, motor sped., prop? Do they come with the same or equivalent servos? How does the all-up weight compare?
The flex is from THE CLASSIC NO wing spare from wing to fuselage! for that added strength! super cubs are the same way!
I did the same thing between the Parkzone SE5a and the Durafly SeSE5a. In the end they are both a little different but both very good!
I've been waiting for this video, a side by side of these models. I looked real hard at both and bought the Timber, I like it. May buy the Tundra as well. The Tundra has more roll rate and more power, much quicker. However I like the STOL capabilities of the Timber with the STOL slats. Your killing me, Gotta get the Tundra. Excellent battery choice I use the Glacier exclusively. I have put a 4000 MAh Glacier in my Timber. A little Nose heavy however manageable. Usually use the 3000 MAh or the 2600. Thanks for the demo.
Timber all the way! Both cool, but the Timber is my preference :) Nice video!
It's a good flying plane, really no winner here just based on flying style. Also if you like bush planes check how the 65 inch or 84 inch turbo bushmaster by legacy aviation. It's the best rc plane I've ever flown.
I did, and it looks pretty cool!
Well this should get them all talking on rc groups great video. I ordered the Timber because I have better customer interaction and support from Horizon Hobby.
Both look like a huge improvement over the parkzone sport cub.
I love my parkzone sport cub but the landing gear are a weak. The sport cub flies like a trainer to me, and it is gorgeous in the air. I do feel the sport cub is a much better looking bird than the timber. The tundra is nicer looking than the timber as well. I almost bought the tundra. I love buddy rc, glacier packs are great, and they are nice and light.
Cory Reeves , I bought th PZ Sport Cub to replace the three channel Hobby Zone Cub, and then got the Tundra to replace it. These are the toss in the back seat and drive to a field type of planes. I also have the CZC and it is awesome, at 84 inches it flies well. the only con is it's landing gear.
I had the parkzone sport cub it was great a little under powered but a great flyer. I had the carbon z t-28 it flew great but I sold it. The carbon z cub is a great flying airplane but the landing gear could be better.
Cory Reeves most either modify the wire one on the CZC, buy the real expensive custom gear that's listed on RC Groups, or use the stock Hangar Nine one which is more affordable. I'm in the middle of my video build of Hangar Nine Carbon Cub, and it is sweet and one good looking airplane. Needless to say the gear on it is awesome and works well.
Thanks for the review. What receiver are you using for your planes. I want to buy one of those planes and set up with my Taranis. Which receiver would you recommend.
Thanks for the comparison. I actually waited until the Tundra was here before buying a Cub type model and I'm real happy with it. It does well on the larger batteries; I use a 3200mah 3S 60C and (with a new ESC), slap in a 4S on occasion.
Clear Skies to you,
.................. bill
Thanks Bill, Yeah I doesn't seem to mind the weight of bigger batteries.
Do you reckon I can put 2 3S 2200mAh in parallel and run in my tundra?
There's plenty of room!
Yes, you could even choose to stack the batteries on top of each other or place them side to side. There's that much space.
Great video. How do you find the Durafly Tundra for transportation in the Car? Can the wings be taken apart ok? The screws that hold the wing struts do they screw into a captive nut or just a plastic thread? Would love to have this plane but am concerned it wont travel to and from the flying field so well :)
There are four screws holding the tundra wings on that are rather small. The timber has two larger nylon screws holding the wing on and is easier to deal with. What size car do yoy drive? I had a sedan at the time of this video and both fit in my car just fine with wings on.
@@SasquatchPNW Thanks for you reply. My Car is not so big, most of the planes I fly need the wings dismantled for transport. That's not a problem but it does mean I have to be careful about the planes I buy. This looks like a great plane but I think these small screws will wear out and cause a problem..I will have a look at the fixings on the Timber...Thanks for your time, much appreciated. Regards, Pete
@@PeterWinnett This is also the single reason why I might will have to look towards the Timber for both storage and transport, even though its nearly twice the price, did you get either in the end, and are you happy with it?
@@Fromatic I ended up buying the FMS Kingfisher. Great plane, easy to transport, big wheels for rough ground and is also a STOL plane.. It also comes with floats for the water.. Good all rounder :)
Nice review!
At first I thought you'd have been better comparing the PZ Sport Cub with the Tundra as they are a more similar 'scale', however I see the Tundra holds its own against the bigger Timber.
Half flap looks better for takeoff imho :)
MrSilentPilot Thanks, I went with the timber as it's a new plane and the PZ sport cub has been out for awhile. Happy landings!
I wonder how these would work with reversible ESCs? I realize the prop has to be stopped, but likely just zero throttle would be enough. But if short landing is a "thing", that roll-out would be a lot shorter if the prop were giving a bit of forward thrust.
They’re both neat planes but the Tundra is way cheaper. I’ve always had pretty good service from HK and it looks like they’re carrying plenty of spares.
Great video.
great video sir. For me the Timber would be a choice. due to Hobbykings behaviour lately. subbed sir
ArcticRc I totally understand that point of view. I wish HK would work on their CS team for international sales. Thanks for watching and subbing!!
Tundra a little easier for a beginner ?
Both are really not beginner planes, look at the Apprentice or Techone EZ trainer at motion rc. I'd say these are second planes as the Timber is weak and breaks easy while the Tundra can tip stall if pushed hard enough.
Excellent side by side. I think the Tundra has the edge over the Timber. Be interesting to see a side by side of the Tundra and the Carbon Cub Splus.
Actually if you watch the video the Timber got in the air faster with the flaps than the tundra. The timber had hardly any roll out at all and the tundra at least rolled foot and a half before it left the ground. ] both awesome planes but I'll have to give it to the timber. Thanks for sharing this with us very cool video and talented pilot
This was all at pretty stock all-up weight. I wonder how these change with 200 extra grams?
I am a novice, currently have a Timber UMX, ( with flaps) on a soccer size field, surrounded by trees. Have you tested the air speed of both planes on flaps/no flaps. I am looking for a plane that flys SLOW, so I can safely maneuver on a small field.
Both fly very fly with and with out flaps, but overall the timber would be slightly slower due to the bigger wingspan. I have flown the 1500mm Timber at an indoor event before if that gives you an idea how slow it can be.
Good video again! Kinda suprised that besides the wingspan they are just about the same in size. I had the idea the Timber would be bigger. Tundra still the more interesting flyer for me, and the known good quality and durability.
Yeah the Fuse on the Tundra is actually wider than the Timber's, they stand at almost the same height and the Timber is maybe 5cm longer.
Is with 3 or 4 cell? Seen videos that show 4 is much better for weight and balance and for power.
Both are 3s as that's their stock recommended battery.
Love that air field,where did you get that material and whats it called. even the bare ground is nice. Both Planes are nice fella,I would buy eather one. The idea behind the big tires is to take off and lsnd in less than ideal landing zones and you take off from the nicest looking field ever. Try some rough tall grass area' s. That is what they were designed for.
Thank you Scott, I've been told the material is an industrial dryer sheet. I'm unsure where to get it, maybe google it for your area. I wanted to use the runway to show the distance each plane needs to take off. If you want to see the best runway ever, check out my MXS baby metal video. Best rc field I've ever seen and flown at.
It would be from a pulp dryer in a pulp mill
That is correct. and we got the sheet from the local paper mill in Millwood. We had much more but the remaining sheets were delivered in smaller uneven pieces.
tundra for the win. timber has a terrible battery placement
Agreed the Worst and then the Clowns at Eflite Just Released a 1.2 Version of it with a bunch of Good Changes EXCEPT THE BATTERY PLACEMENT POSITION......Gawd you idiots....
i think the only way to compare the two would be to just fly the heck out f both under dif conditions. I was flying my timber yesterday and today in conditions most would not fly. very windy. take off was immediate. I was coming down from over 100 feet altitude on landing approach in a sharp dive leveling off at the end and touching down with hardly any forward roll. in my opinion with the foam tires, lights which come in handy when flying past sunset, the shocks for the anding gear and its ability to fly aerobatic. this is the best plane I ever had. as for comparing the 2 I thing they are just to similar. there foam airplanes i dont think there will be much difference. I would love to figure how to drop both ailerons slightly with full flaps to further low down the plane.
I consider my self strong intermediate, I fly full throws with 0 expo. I never fly with expo. infarct i re did my rudder and set the rudder servo to 150 throw and placed the linkage on the furthest out hole in the horn I can do a flat turn with ailerns and ruder on a dime. love this plane
when landig in wind with full flaps a little power makes for a smooth landing instead of bouncing
Both do very well in bad conditions. My buddy and I flew in terrible wind and the tundra held up. th-cam.com/video/8QgO0tOJRvg/w-d-xo.html
What is that green material you are taking off of?
You gotta compare the Tundra to the Timber X1.2,They are closer in size and performance...
It's going to happen. Just got 30 inches of snow so flying is not ideal.
Timber & Maule...fantastic choices
Excellent review! Thanks.
Put A 13 x 6.5 On The Timber & It Will Be Half As Much Better!!! And Come It At A 30 to 45 degree Angle With A Bunch of Flaps & Elevator Then It Will Land In A Few Feet Also, Especially If You Install The Leading Wing Edge Spoilers!!! LOL Thanks...
Great comparative video, thanks for sharing
Where did ya see the timber ripping apart in the air. U TUBE vid could ya drop me a link thanks.
Great video, could you tell me the weight, propeller size and engine of each model? thanks
you use expo on your high rate with either of these planes?
Eric sin sinner 30% expo with all rates at 100. No dual rate switch. start at 80 throw with 30 expo if you're unsure or a newer flyer. thanks for watching!
tjrosenberry Ok cool, I have a friend getting the Timber he is a novice, I have a Funcub and using 100/20 and 75/20 for just landing/takeoff, he will probably be using the safe for starters so better use like 80/25 as not to limit the throw to much and later like 100/30 high rates, thanks
Nice field. Must be "Paradise" to fly at. Though I usually stand on the other side.
Bashere yup, it's a great field, the sun was starting to set so I didn't want to fly into it. Do you still fly there?
sometimes. I live in Idaho now so it's a bit tougher to get out there.
Hi, nice video. Just ordered the Timber BNF, I like the as3x and SAFE, being a beginner. Also have the Taranis, modded with a Spektrum Tx. Could you share, how to setup the transmitter ? Thanks in advance .
Kapdebo Norbert have you setup a plane before with the taranis?
Yes, I have a setup for my Conscendo and 2 wings.
The Timber is meant to have the slats. With slats, it will beat the Tundra in take-off distance, and slow speed capability.
I have a separate video coming with slats on, I don't see much of a difference in take offs. I do see it in low speed handling and landings though.
They are bush planes. You should demonstrate how they handle on dirt and grass. :>)
I have the dirt battle recorded, just need to edit. Both planes did great and were pushed to their limits
what is your runway made of?
i have an apprentice s 15e, are these planes similar and is the tundra betteron floats?
Both planes are similar, the Timber is the easier plane to fly and the Tundra is more fun to fly and provides more room to grow with. If you go with the Tundra, make sure to get the COG correct so you have a lesser chance of a tip stall. Your Batteries will fit either plane, but the tundra will carry them easier.
thanks
The Timber will out STOL the Tundra all day any day. Add the leading slots and it'll be even better as a pure STOL plane. That said the Tundra is more aerobatic and versatile in the air. I think it depends on what you really want. for lazy flying and learning tailwheel the Timber is better. I don't think there is any way to say that on the whole one is better than the other.
great video though!
Thanks! personally I can't agree with that, after adding the slats the Tundra still takes off faster than the Timber. The Timber still lands way easier though, to me it all on preference. Another round with slats on and in the dirt to come.
timber is good for beginners?
I would recommend as a second plane, a good beginner plane is the Super Cub LP, Hobbyking Bixler, techone tuff trainer to name a few. The Timber is a stable airplane but does not take abuse well, and as a beginner you will crash at some point. It is better with a trainer style plane as they can take more abuse and are easier on the wallet. Also check out the flite test tiny trainer, you can scratch build it for less than $80.00
Great vid! I'm fitting a 3s 5000mah in the Timber BTW.
Take them both up and do a stall and see what happens. Tundra stalls = death roll
Anthony Gennello If you make it tail heavy yes, if you follow the cg in the manual you'll only a tip stall if you're using full flaps and pushing it to it's limits
Sry for the late reply, but setup properly the tundra is nearly impossible to spin and super easy to recover from a tip stall or spin
gulfcoaster210 a year late apology lol
What is your runway surface made of?
were you using the slats on the timber?
Not on this flight, wanted an out of box comparison. Tomorrow morning round 2 commences, slats on and in the dirt as that seems to be what everyone wants.
I own a timber just love it
Timber was much better at shorter take off and a better beginner plane. Tundra is more acrobatic and fun to fly.
Put the slats on the timber it makes the worlds difference
I did, and it made it slower but killed the aileron authority which is to be expected. I actually took it to an indoor event and did 3 stressful but very controlled laps in the area of two basketball courts. The UMX planes flying around it looked like nats lol, no one could believe such a big plane could fly indoors.
What about maule eflite !! Thanks
Does the tundra come with pontoons
Yes
You gotta stop moving right when we're full of suspense lol
Very good video hoes the tundra going after two years, still going strong
Well after about 1000 flights, dozens of crashes, adding leds, and it getting stuck in a tree for a week. I finally sold it to a friend for 20 dollars. I have a Orange and black one now. It was still a good flyer all the way to the end.
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Tundra a few more $$ in the air,,,, my trainer calls the Tundra junk, but I am beginning to find him wrong about everything he says.
if I buy the Tundra, I'd use the Timber receiver.
Don't need the Timber receiver in it, look at Lemon RX receivers with gyros built in. I'd say the best pure trainer would be the Apprentice or the Techone Ez trainer. I did find the Tundra easier to fly then the Timber for me personally. If you're getting into the hobby start with something small and cheap that's 4 channel, also get a Simulator it will save you all the money.
People that have been in this hobby for a long time have a hard time accepting competing products and call them all Chinese junk. When in fact almost everything in this hobby is Chinese. Thanks for watching and enjoy which ever you buy!
The Apprentice makes a good camera plane but the places I fly make me desire a STOL plane.,,,,I need one that flys stable, so the video isn't jerky. slow smooth changes.
tjrosenberry Not looking for a trainer. looking at Timber or Tundra, but the Tundra does not have a receiver according to what I read.
Anyone who tells u the tundra is junk is insane. I own both and I prefer the tundra 95% of the time.... The timber is a bit better as a STOL but the tundra is better in every other way.
@@SasquatchPNW actually Chinese made products are cheaper and higher quality, win, win for chineese made products. Unions make US products less quality and more expensive, facts are facts. However you can buy crap. US and crap Chinese products.
STOL. SHORT TAKEOFF OR LANDING
3:59 takeoff length what takeoff length XD
I know, both planes takeoff in such a short distance lol
S.T.A.L. Short Takeoff And Landing :)
Great review!
thejason51873, no it's stol, short take off and landing, take off is 2 words
I know, I just like STAL better :)
The test should have been done on grass or dirt.
I know right? The guy takes off from the best damn field ever. Even bare ground is still better than what I take off from.
I can't paint a line in the grass/dirt as it's leased property and I don't want to create unneeded drama. Thus why I used the red line on the strip to show how close these planes are at takeoff distances. I'll be recording a dirt battle this weekend.
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tundra is the better
No dude tundra v2 for ever
Not a fair comparison....Tundra rolled further before you pulled up, ... and half flaps and full flaps traveled about the same distance on the Timber ? SO what you did was near the same but NO tow TO's are the same every time.....
If your going to do it...you need markers to see the distance traveled etc....counting the holes ( dots) on the blue tarp...seems the tundra takes off faster, except when you let it roll to far......and landings who knows they were all over the place.
Both seem to be nice planes. But i have already seen and heard about Motor and Rx failures on the Timber ( uncharacteristic with HH ) and the Tundra remains on B.O. and they are still trying to fulfill the orders at HK
I passed on both
I stated at the beginning that I was comparing TOs only, landings roll out too far with no wind so there's no point in trying to compare distance. I did however, mention stability on landings. I attempted 3 TOs with both planes with no flaps, half, and full. As I don't own the strip I cannot modify it to add measurement markings. This was more to show how close these planes compare when it comes to STOL.
Recently HH has had some intermittent QC issues, but no manufacturer is perfect. It's if they're willing to correct the issue, that will be what I'll be watching for. CZ Cub still has a bad motor being shipping in it...
I tried to Hold the elevator down on both planes during TOs if that didn't happen for one TO, then I guess opps...I did state that I think the Tundra is better on TO.
Thanks for the comment!
When HobbyKIng drops the ball and you get a lemon I hate that even though they have US warehouses, Customer service is such a pain. I love the prices and HobbyKing is a go to for batteries, but I have had more stuff from HK fail than I have had fail from Horizon Hobby, and Horizon is always easier to deal with when resolving issues for me than HK. That is why I opted for the Timber myself.
I like the Tundra better. However you are right! I ordered an airplane from Hobbyking and they mailed me 5 Radios! Then I almost had a stroke trying to fix the problem through customer support. It felt like I was trying to talk to gold fish! I mailed back the radios and never got a credit for the $100 shipping. You roll the dice when you deal with HobbyKing.
I have a dynam pitts python that I like it is nice, and I had the durafly old crow again a very nice airplane. I also had the HK 1400mm piper j-3 cub made by star max a beautiful flying 4s powered cub. Then I had both the HK Pitts special made by Art Tech it is junk, had the HK Hummer profile 3D plane it was ok but mostly junk. Last it was fun but fragile cheap fun and not worth the money. The durafly flybeam. I have had my share of HK airplanes some good some not so good. The tundra looks very good.
@@wyorocker82716 in my experience HK customer service was fast and easy plus free. Had a bad motor on a glider, they immediately replaced it.
audio is crap cant hardly hear a thing
Audio is good, time for a hearing check