You’re not really paying for a levelling kit. More the fact you’re buying one of the highest quality suspension upgrade kits on the market. The ride height is just a bonus.
Great video with lots of good information. I have been checking about leveling my 2019 Tundra. My local installer suggested the coil over option as well. Your video helped me understand his reasoning. I am going to check out your website. Thanks for the help!
This is, hands down, the BEST OVERALL video I've watched on this topic! Great job! (Info/delivery/knowledge/honesty/candor) I bought the Rancho Quicklift Leveling Strut + RS9000XL Adjustable Shocks Set for my 2012 Chevrolet Avalanche LTZ (from another supplier) and it's been a total nightmare since. I'm finally going to move on and am looking at the Rough County 2" Leveling Kit or the newer adjustable set. How do you think they'd do for my on/off road application?
I have Bilstein 6112s on my F150 set at the highest lift setting, which is 1.75” I think. 5100s in the rear. Ride is great on and off road, and I was easily able to clear 285/75r18 tires on factory wheels, which are a full 35” diameter tire.
So you got a new shock and coil , set the height, assembled them yourself and replaced the front struts. No UCA replacement required ? Then replaced the rear shocks with a Bilstein 5100 shock also ? Are you happy with the leveling and the ride quality ? What type or level of off road driving were you trying meet ? I have a 2020 F-150 that I want to level and drive off road on fire trails and no serious off roading but be able to leave the highway and run through some woods.
What I mean is they are the diameter of a labeled 35” tire, and they absolutely are. E.g. a 35/12.50r18. No tires measure up to what their indicated size is once weighted; thank you captain obvious.
Great vid. I have a 2013 Titan 4x2. I installed new OEM style struts on the front with the rough country 3 inch lift. I believe that makes the front spacers 1.8 inches thick. Also installed new RC Forged Aluminum control arms and sway bar links. No issues with the front. For the rear I installed RC 1.75 inch tapered blocks. My truck had driveline vibration around 1800 rpm in 1st gear. Truck sat for 2 weeks while I messed with it and did research. I ended up swapping those tapered blocks for supreme suspension 1.5 inch flat blocks and the problem is 100% solved. I told RC about my issues after I corrected it. They insisted that I needed a carrier bearing drop since my 4x2 has a 2 piece shaft but their instructions as well as their website say ZERO about a carrier bearing drop for a 1st Gen Titan. A little annoyed that they sell the exact same parts for 4x2 and 4x4 trucks as far as the 3 inch lift or am I just a 1 off case with the previous driveline vibration?
Hello, at about the 8:21 minute mark you talk about a $4,610 "kit", I can't find that on your website? I have a 2019 Silverado 2500HD and am considering a 2024 truck new and want the same BDS kit (fox coil overs) but they do not offer that, and yours looks very close. Can you send a link to that kit? TY
Don’t buy the plastic rough country spacers. The hex holes stripped when installing a kit on my brothers truck. After doing some research I guess it’s common as others have complained of the same thing. Would go with a billet or aluminum option instead. Just my experience.
I have a 2015 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4X4 5.7 Hemi. I want to level the front then add 2.5 - 3 inches overall. I’d like to do this by using new shocks, struts, upper control arm and new tie bars. Beside Rough Country what do you recommend. Thank you
Going to lift my 2023 tundra. Won’t ever do any actual off roading but the occasional dirt road with some bumps. How detrimental can a spacer be in my case?
Sorry for the confusion, I’m new to off-road lifts. So if I’m wanting to do a 2” lift on a Tahoe, does the 2” leveling kit only lift the front end 2”? Or does it lift the front and back, but make them level in the process?
Leveling kit only lifts the front of the vehicle to make the truck appear “level.” From the factory the vehicle has the back lifter higher due to its load capacity when you add weight the rear squats down and looks level.
What's most modest done right lift can I do on my 2019 4wd midnight with 18" rims ... we have a lift in our shop so I wanted to attempt diy .. just need dirextion. We lift on dirt roads and I'd like to move a lil faster down them without worry and look good doing it.. any tips and advice is greatly appreciated
Very educational. Thanks. A few questions I'm hoping you'll see and be able to answer after all this time. I'd want high end, top performance for my anticipated new F150, so based on what you've said here I'd go the top of the line $4,600 coil over level kit route, at whatever today's more recent price point is. But what I really want is either a 3" or 3 1/2" level, or maybe a 4" lift, to allow max room for a larger 35" tire and its added minimum road clearance. Here are my questions: First, are there issues going up to a 3" or 3 1/2" level that affect performance, ride quality/comfort, suspension range and such that make that height less than ideal? Second, would going up to a full on 4" lift kit with the added reconstruction underneath and that metal addition running across the front side to side, which looks like it would decrease minimum road clearance, would that resolve any such concerns found with the higher level kits, and would it increase or decrease performance, ride quality/comfort, suspension range and such? And would that full on lift kit then hang lower across the front thus actually decrease the minimum road clearance versus the 3" or 3 1/2" level? Other? Thanks. I live in mountainy ski country with deeper snow and often rougher roads, and what appears to be a lower hanging added bar structure going across the front with the full on lift kit, that drop down height concerns me. It's all a little confusing and I'm only just learning. Cost is secondary to me. I want to learn the pros and cons of a higher 3 - 3 1/2" level vs jumping up to a 4" lift. I can factor cost in later if needed.
Great videos! But what about the guys who don't have 4wd? My 2016 ram 1500 rwd has just a spring. No strut. So do I have to sacrifice ride quality if I want a 3" lift kit.
I have a 23 ford tremor and I like the way it rides on road and off road on the weekends, so what would I go to? I did go to bilstien 5100s on my tundra and it is awful on road riding extremely stiff so I didn't like it and need to figure out a solution for that as well it's a 2010 also I'm not wanting rough country anything and also don't want to spend over 1400 on each truck, I'm just looking for leveling no real lift
I have a 2020 ram 1500 big horn and I have been wanting to lift it and put big wheels and tires but I heard that lifting your truck ruins the suspension and puts stress on the whole system. I rarely go off road but I want it for looks, I don’t want spacers either, what’s the best way to lift it without impacting anything else too badly? Great video thanks for all of the info!
Ref: F150 4x4 2018. If I install the Fox 2.0 coil over kit that includes the new rear struts and lift it to the basic 1 to 2", I should not need new control arms if I mostly drive on road, correct?
So basically I can get rid of the cheap 2.5” front spacer that’s making my ride quality suck, and replace it with a fox 2.0? No more spacer, same lift, better ride quality?
Awesome video! Please help, my 21 silverado z71 is currently leveled on bilstein 5100 shocks (stock springs) with 295/70/18 ridge grapplers. The truck rides horrible veryyyy bumpy, do you think upgrading to RC vertex coilovers for leveling will make a big difference? I dont know if i should try different tires or a diff suspension setup. Thank you.
I would guess it’s your tires. On my 16 f150 I have 295/75/18 nitto terra grappler g2, with a 2.5 inch spacer. Stock strut and stock spring. Ride can be rough when going over any type of bumps. LT tires ride stiff
I would definitely not pay $850 for those Icon tubular upper control arms, Icon Toyota tacoma. Bigger trucks I have to go with Cognito-Kriptonite or Mcgaughys. I usually keep my lift and upper control arms the same.
Just purchased a 21 XLT with the RC 3" leveling kit. The CV axles appear to be a an extreme angle compared to stock, will this cause problems? Thank you.
@@jordanxlongoria levelling struts. Bilstein 5100's are tough to beat, and if you set them to anything over 2" of lift, buy a set of UCA's built to accomodate the angle (Zone UCA's are popular)
Best way to retain factory ride is body lift. CO not ready for that discussion yet though 😂. Got 4 inches of suspension on my '13 silverado and a 1.5 body lift from zone. I've run -28 and -41 offset wheels and 35s exclusively for years. Has a norcal and has the front bumper halved down the middle pre runner style. Did a one inch diff drop bracket to help cv angles out as well. Haven't had a rub or scrub in its entire tenure as my setup. Rides a little stiffer than factory but my 35s are on 17s and not silly 22x14s so that's helping a bunch 😂
If I have a factory 2" lift (like in my AT4 Sierra) why not use lower spacers in the rear to level and avoid complicated and costly mods that may make it handle worse?
I agree with this video I purchased zone uca for my 3/4 ton Chevy And looking back I wish I would have gotten the full 3” lift that rough country offered bc for $700 I would’ve got the arms and new shocks Now I just have $500 arms and old shocks I want new shocks bc I didn’t get the rc kit I love my purchase, but there are better options for certain scenarios
Do y'all sell brakes and rotors for tundras? If not, who do y'all recommend? By the way, thanks for all of the great content! Y'all are by far the best channel for this type of information on TH-cam!
Rough Country UCA’s are garbage. Ball joints were shot after only 5k miles. I heavily recommend spending more money on better quality ones. At the end of the day “you get what you pay for”
I fried my RC UCA's in well under 20 k KM's on my old truck, with their cheapo 3.5" kit. Their low end products may be ok for mallcrawlers, but the quality is truly awful. New truck will have 5100's set @ 1.5". Won't go higher without swapping to an aftermarket UCA.
$4600 for just a leveling kit is outrageous.
You’re not really paying for a levelling kit. More the fact you’re buying one of the highest quality suspension upgrade kits on the market. The ride height is just a bonus.
I’ll be honest. I stopped watching a lot of CO content when Fuller left. Happy he’s back! 👍🏼
Glad you're here Mike :) -Fuller
I went with the Rough Country 3.5" lifted strut kit.The kit come with UCA and i opted for the upgraded rear shocks. Total price was $1230.00
Solid Choice! -Fuller
How is the ride quality I bought the same kit But haven't Installed it yet
@@paulwilliams107 link?
How often the leveling causes problems with front differential?@@CustomOffsetsTV
@blucllrmn did you have to cut anything to install that lift kit
Great video with lots of good information. I have been checking about leveling my 2019 Tundra. My local installer suggested the coil over option as well. Your video helped me understand his reasoning. I am going to check out your website. Thanks for the help!
This is, hands down, the BEST OVERALL video I've watched on this topic! Great job! (Info/delivery/knowledge/honesty/candor)
I bought the Rancho Quicklift Leveling Strut + RS9000XL Adjustable Shocks Set for my 2012 Chevrolet Avalanche LTZ (from another supplier) and it's been a total nightmare since. I'm finally going to move on and am looking at the Rough County 2" Leveling Kit or the newer adjustable set. How do you think they'd do for my on/off road application?
Do metal or poly spacers provide a better ride or is it just preference? Are any profilers for alignment?
I went with the Rancho quick lift leveling struts to level my 2013 f150. Adjustable dampening and was able to fit 33x12.5’s with no rubbing
Nice! Did you get a chance to send us some photos? customoffsets.com/add -Fuller
Did you like the rancho quick lift struts? How are they working for you? I've seen a lot of reviews saying they don't last
@@CustomOffsetsTV what do you think the best level kit is for 2016 ford 150 2wd….fox doesn’t seem to have one.
I have Bilstein 6112s on my F150 set at the highest lift setting, which is 1.75” I think. 5100s in the rear. Ride is great on and off road, and I was easily able to clear 285/75r18 tires on factory wheels, which are a full 35” diameter tire.
So you got a new shock and coil , set the height, assembled them yourself and replaced the front struts. No UCA replacement required ? Then replaced the rear shocks with a Bilstein 5100 shock also ? Are you happy with the leveling and the ride quality ? What type or level of off road driving were you trying meet ? I have a 2020 F-150 that I want to level and drive off road on fire trails and no serious off roading but be able to leave the highway and run through some woods.
They absolutely are not a full 35, that's like a 33.5 basically and I can guarantee it's probably right under 33 with the trucks weight on em. 😂
What I mean is they are the diameter of a labeled 35” tire, and they absolutely are. E.g. a 35/12.50r18. No tires measure up to what their indicated size is once weighted; thank you captain obvious.
@@chuckplainview4085 285/75-18 = 34.8
I want what your smoking thinking they are 33.5
Great vid. I have a 2013 Titan 4x2. I installed new OEM style struts on the front with the rough country 3 inch lift. I believe that makes the front spacers 1.8 inches thick. Also installed new RC Forged Aluminum control arms and sway bar links. No issues with the front.
For the rear I installed RC 1.75 inch tapered blocks. My truck had driveline vibration around 1800 rpm in 1st gear. Truck sat for 2 weeks while I messed with it and did research. I ended up swapping those tapered blocks for supreme suspension 1.5 inch flat blocks and the problem is 100% solved. I told RC about my issues after I corrected it. They insisted that I needed a carrier bearing drop since my 4x2 has a 2 piece shaft but their instructions as well as their website say ZERO about a carrier bearing drop for a 1st Gen Titan.
A little annoyed that they sell the exact same parts for 4x2 and 4x4 trucks as far as the 3 inch lift or am I just a 1 off case with the previous driveline vibration?
Hello, at about the 8:21 minute mark you talk about a $4,610 "kit", I can't find that on your website? I have a 2019 Silverado 2500HD and am considering a 2024 truck new and want the same BDS kit (fox coil overs) but they do not offer that, and yours looks very close. Can you send a link to that kit? TY
Send us an email and we can help you out! sales@customoffsets.com
Don’t buy the plastic rough country spacers. The hex holes stripped when installing a kit on my brothers truck. After doing some research I guess it’s common as others have complained of the same thing. Would go with a billet or aluminum option instead. Just my experience.
Thank you. This was one of the best videos I have seen in a long time.
I have a 2015 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4X4 5.7 Hemi. I want to level the front then add 2.5 - 3 inches overall. I’d like to do this by using new shocks, struts, upper control arm and new tie bars. Beside Rough Country what do you recommend. Thank you
Going to lift my 2023 tundra. Won’t ever do any actual off roading but the occasional dirt road with some bumps. How detrimental can a spacer be in my case?
Sorry for the confusion, I’m new to off-road lifts. So if I’m wanting to do a 2” lift on a Tahoe, does the 2” leveling kit only lift the front end 2”? Or does it lift the front and back, but make them level in the process?
Leveling kit only lifts the front of the vehicle to make the truck appear “level.” From the factory the vehicle has the back lifter higher due to its load capacity when you add weight the rear squats down and looks level.
What's most modest done right lift can I do on my 2019 4wd midnight with 18" rims ... we have a lift in our shop so I wanted to attempt diy .. just need dirextion. We lift on dirt roads and I'd like to move a lil faster down them without worry and look good doing it.. any tips and advice is greatly appreciated
I have 2.5 inch spacers on rn but still have a little rake. Do you think 3 inch struts would fix it
Can you run spacers on top of your coil overs?!
I have a 6 inch lift on my truck (i think) its a rought country with shock spacers. What can I do to upgrade?
I was thinking of readylift 3.5 sst kit for my 22f150 any input will help
Looking for an extended coilover setup to level my trail boss and remove the spacer lift Chevrolet installed.
Very educational. Thanks. A few questions I'm hoping you'll see and be able to answer after all this time. I'd want high end, top performance for my anticipated new F150, so based on what you've said here I'd go the top of the line $4,600 coil over level kit route, at whatever today's more recent price point is. But what I really want is either a 3" or 3 1/2" level, or maybe a 4" lift, to allow max room for a larger 35" tire and its added minimum road clearance. Here are my questions:
First, are there issues going up to a 3" or 3 1/2" level that affect performance, ride quality/comfort, suspension range and such that make that height less than ideal? Second, would going up to a full on 4" lift kit with the added reconstruction underneath and that metal addition running across the front side to side, which looks like it would decrease minimum road clearance, would that resolve any such concerns found with the higher level kits, and would it increase or decrease performance, ride quality/comfort, suspension range and such? And would that full on lift kit then hang lower across the front thus actually decrease the minimum road clearance versus the 3" or 3 1/2" level? Other? Thanks.
I live in mountainy ski country with deeper snow and often rougher roads, and what appears to be a lower hanging added bar structure going across the front with the full on lift kit, that drop down height concerns me. It's all a little confusing and I'm only just learning. Cost is secondary to me. I want to learn the pros and cons of a higher 3 - 3 1/2" level vs jumping up to a 4" lift. I can factor cost in later if needed.
Hey! Please reach out to our customer service team and they can go over all of this with you.
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Do I need upper control arms for a 2inch coil over leveling kit?
2021 Chevy 1500 Z71
No but you can’t go wrong with uppers anyway.
I went with Dirt King control arms and Fox coil overs and fox struts in the rear. It’s worth the money especially for comfort
Great videos! But what about the guys who don't have 4wd? My 2016 ram 1500 rwd has just a spring. No strut. So do I have to sacrifice ride quality if I want a 3" lift kit.
What about front diff drops with leveling kits? Are they necessary
Not necessary but if the kit included em, definitely worth it!
I just ordered some 20 x 12 M0962 And some 36 inch versa tires
Hell yeah!
Ughhh hell no.
Icon suspension. 🤷♂️. The only leveling kit I'll put on my truck. Stage 2+. Control arms included, and adj up to 3.5in.
Solid stuff for sure! Especially in the toyota world. -Fuller
@@CustomOffsetsTV Yup. If I had a Chevy? Cognito. Ford? Halo lifts. Toyota? Icon. Ram? BDS.
I saw your video 3yrs ago about the Vertex kit. Do you still like them?
I missed fuller! You're looking great dude!
I have a 23 ford tremor and I like the way it rides on road and off road on the weekends, so what would I go to? I did go to bilstien 5100s on my tundra and it is awful on road riding extremely stiff so I didn't like it and need to figure out a solution for that as well it's a 2010 also I'm not wanting rough country anything and also don't want to spend over 1400 on each truck, I'm just looking for leveling no real lift
I have a 2020 ram 1500 big horn and I have been wanting to lift it and put big wheels and tires but I heard that lifting your truck ruins the suspension and puts stress on the whole system. I rarely go off road but I want it for looks, I don’t want spacers either, what’s the best way to lift it without impacting anything else too badly? Great video thanks for all of the info!
Im on the same boat, did you ever figure it out?
Nope, still don't know what to do.@@jasperdelorino4140
King 2.5...... they are awesome on my tremor leveled out
Ref: F150 4x4 2018. If I install the Fox 2.0 coil over kit that includes the new rear struts and lift it to the basic 1 to 2", I should not need new control arms if I mostly drive on road, correct?
Hi no you don't need control arms if you stay 2 or under 2in anything over that say 2.5. To 3 inch i would say yes
So basically I can get rid of the cheap 2.5” front spacer that’s making my ride quality suck, and replace it with a fox 2.0? No more spacer, same lift, better ride quality?
Best video explanation so far
Appreciate it.
Just ordered a 7.5 vertex kit to run 35x12.50s on my gen 2 silverado 1500. Will that be enough with a "norcal" mod?
Thank you for this info 👍🏼
Awesome video! Please help, my 21 silverado z71 is currently leveled on bilstein 5100 shocks (stock springs) with 295/70/18 ridge grapplers. The truck rides horrible veryyyy bumpy, do you think upgrading to RC vertex coilovers for leveling will make a big difference? I dont know if i should try different tires or a diff suspension setup. Thank you.
I would guess it’s your tires. On my 16 f150 I have 295/75/18 nitto terra grappler g2, with a 2.5 inch spacer. Stock strut and stock spring. Ride can be rough when going over any type of bumps. LT tires ride stiff
I would definitely not pay $850 for those Icon tubular upper control arms, Icon Toyota tacoma. Bigger trucks I have to go with Cognito-Kriptonite or Mcgaughys. I usually keep my lift and upper control arms the same.
My truck rides like stock with the lifted look. BDS 2" Level with FOX 2.0 shocks all around.
Can't beat that, FOX 2.0s are buttery!
Definitely not a lifted truck look.
Wheels/tires?
Just purchased a 21 XLT with the RC 3" leveling kit. The CV axles appear to be a an extreme angle compared to stock, will this cause problems? Thank you.
Absolutely. You are shortening the life of your front suspension dramatically (I've been there done that, never again)
@@JoeTeer What would be the best option to avoid that and still have a 3 inch lift with good ride quality?
@@jordanxlongoria levelling struts. Bilstein 5100's are tough to beat, and if you set them to anything over 2" of lift, buy a set of UCA's built to accomodate the angle (Zone UCA's are popular)
I’m well past the 7k mark doing a full midtravel on my Silverado. Worth every penny
mmmmmm love me some mid-travel builds! -Fuller
@@CustomOffsetsTV I'll let you drive it
Best way to retain factory ride is body lift. CO not ready for that discussion yet though 😂. Got 4 inches of suspension on my '13 silverado and a 1.5 body lift from zone. I've run -28 and -41 offset wheels and 35s exclusively for years. Has a norcal and has the front bumper halved down the middle pre runner style. Did a one inch diff drop bracket to help cv angles out as well. Haven't had a rub or scrub in its entire tenure as my setup. Rides a little stiffer than factory but my 35s are on 17s and not silly 22x14s so that's helping a bunch 😂
Also motofab leveling control arms so I don't do the ol kachow mod 😂
If I have a factory 2" lift (like in my AT4 Sierra) why not use lower spacers in the rear to level and avoid complicated and costly mods that may make it handle worse?
Ibjust came to find out what mMes a smoithet ride. So levelibg xoes that?
I agree with this video
I purchased zone uca for my 3/4 ton Chevy
And looking back I wish I would have gotten the full 3” lift that rough country offered bc for $700 I would’ve got the arms and new shocks
Now I just have $500 arms and old shocks
I want new shocks bc I didn’t get the rc kit
I love my purchase, but there are better options for certain scenarios
My question is can I have both at the same time?
Is that $680 for a leveling kit per wheel?
2017 expedition don’t have that many options
I need something to lift my 2022 Mitsubishi outlander 4x4 I want 2 inches , but I can’t find anything
Do y'all sell brakes and rotors for tundras? If not, who do y'all recommend?
By the way, thanks for all of the great content! Y'all are by far the best channel for this type of information on TH-cam!
Best bet, look into what’s available, then research from there!
Needed this lol
Spacer kit with a limiting strap, other than that you ball joints will suffer.
Very informative! Thx
Easy or hard?? What's the diffrence either way the coils gota come out anyway.
I got the Eibach leveling kit 2".0-2".9.
How do they ride? I’m looking at putting them on my truck!
@jball1 The ride is stiffer than stock and they don't last that long, one of them is bad already after a year and a half.
@@LEGEND04131 got ya I will stay clear of them thank you
Bro called me out. Not only do we have a cat eye that we’re leveling… we also have an ‘01 roundeye…
Love yall
We love you too!
2” spacer is all you need. $4600 is just stupid if you going to just daily your truck.
Rough Country UCA’s are garbage. Ball joints were shot after only 5k miles. I heavily recommend spending more money on better quality ones. At the end of the day “you get what you pay for”
I fried my RC UCA's in well under 20 k KM's on my old truck, with their cheapo 3.5" kit. Their low end products may be ok for mallcrawlers, but the quality is truly awful. New truck will have 5100's set @ 1.5". Won't go higher without swapping to an aftermarket UCA.
I have the kings lift kit.
You had me at the 1911 - Glock debate 👍
Bilstein 6100 vs Fox 2.0?
Love Bilstein, but those fox 2.0 ride nice nice
Coilover lift with aftermarket uca all day long!
So comfy riding
I remember when it didn't cost an arm and a leg.
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In terms of looks, level>rake>squat 💀
1911 all day 😊
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Hey once I get a truck I am going to make a truck building Series on my channel would you guys like to sponsor?
I haven’t found someone with my first name in a while 😂
"Fuller easy on the Pepsi"
my dude... adjustability is definitely a word lol..
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Raise your hand if you believe Fuller actually paid $850 for Icon control arms? or just went to the back stock area and took them from shop? 😂
Raise your hand if Fuller just said screw it and went to see what the failure point was of the stock arms instead..... -Fuller
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Man I like your TH-cam videos but man when it comes to Dustin can’t take his at all
Don’t chu worry. This channel about to get wild!
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Yes, it makes it match the shitty rear suspension.
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Coilovers aren't worth the ride quality for non coil over trucks
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Definitely first!
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