That Time a Plane Crashed into a Tornado - NLM CityHopper 431

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    The tiny sleepy village of Moerdijk in the Netherlands is home to just 1,200 people. Located on the south side of the mighty Hollands Diep Estuary, not much ever happens here. However, in the evening of October 6th, 1981, this village was thrust into national headlines and became a focal point of interest for Air Crash Investigators as they arrive at the site of a baffling accident. As it would turn out, this corner of the Dutch countryside would also draw the interest of meteorologists.
    The case of NLM City Hopper Flight 431 is unlike any other aviation accident we have ever discussed previously or will likely ever discuss again. It is a one-of-a-kind accident. A regional jet, performing a short routine domestic flight in The Netherlands goes horribly wrong when it flies into bad weather. The pilots had no idea of the true extent of its ferocity. In an age before sophisticated weather radar and forecasts, they were clueless to the fact that they had just flown into one of nature’s most devastating weapons,
    #aviation #tornado

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  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

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    • @Auuua11
      @Auuua11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Great video as always. Will be joining your Patreon soon.

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Chloe's back!!! Great to see another vid as always! ♥

    • @brianrosie1762
      @brianrosie1762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are you trans you look great

    • @osachica1
      @osachica1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Your presentations are highly entertaining, well researched and benefit from your wonderful delivery. Thank you for the effort you invest in your videos. 0:03

    • @Auuua11
      @Auuua11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianrosie1762 th-cam.com/video/WhqY1NaZgiM/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygULY2hsb2UgaG93aWU%3D

  • @amazingdragonboy1202
    @amazingdragonboy1202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +438

    This is such an unprecedented scenario that you cant really blame the pilots

    • @EstorilEm
      @EstorilEm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not true, tornado storm updrafts and cloud structures are almost ALWAYS going to be 25-40,000’ high - their cruise altitude was a TINY fraction of that. I don’t care what your weather radar says, you don’t fly into storms - especially with tops like this one had (no, I don’t need pictures - if it created a tornado, it had a significant towering updraft.)

    • @htimsid
      @htimsid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@EstorilEm According to the video, the pilots did attempt to avoid the storm. Moreover, contemporary (weather) radar was not sufficiently sophisticated and weather updates could not be supplied quickly enough.

    • @c128stuff
      @c128stuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@EstorilEm Your argument would kindof work if they actually knew they were flying into a storm. But for as far as the pilots could tell, they were trying to AVOID flying into a storm. If you had payed any attention to the video, or had researched the incident, you'd have known that.

    • @baumkuchen6543
      @baumkuchen6543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Fokkered up scenario.

    • @phoenixheart79
      @phoenixheart79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@EstorilEm Tell me that you didn't watch the video without telling me that you didn't watch the video. To the pilots knowledge, they were avoiding a storm, as they should. They flew into a cloudbank whilst avoiding the storm on their radar, but didn't know they were entering something far worse. To them, it was just clouds.

  • @brianbks02
    @brianbks02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +426

    Me: I can't believe Chloe went all the way to the Netherlands and didn't see the fox.
    Me at the end of the episode: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @brulaapgaapmeester8052
      @brulaapgaapmeester8052 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      O come on, it's about a 5 minutes walk from where she is located. You have to bring some flippers though.

    • @erikaswanson7072
      @erikaswanson7072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      But... what does the fox say?

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@erikaswanson7072 'ech waar' ofc, if its from Rotterdam

    • @plushifoxed
      @plushifoxed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      fox fox fox!!

    • @CassassinCatto
      @CassassinCatto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      "It's a Big Floofer! 😻"

  • @motionless_horizon
    @motionless_horizon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Hey Chloe, I just want to say that I really appreciate you and your content. I’m transmasc, and I’ve felt afraid to be out in aviation communities because I’ve felt like it isn’t the safest of spaces. Seeing you be so authentically you, and not giving a fuck about what others think, has really helped me feel safe in the community. The support from the community here is also so amazing, you’ve made such a great place here on youtube. Please keep being you and being a badass ❤️

    • @gtgibb
      @gtgibb 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you found @ControlledPodIntoTerrain yet?

  • @chrisg9627
    @chrisg9627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    I was aware of this accident at the time.
    Little did I know that I would have my own story to contribute, thank you for highlighting this accident.
    In April 2022 I was flying a similar sized jet in a remote desert region.
    Conditions were unstable with a cold front from the sea pushing into 40 degree desert air.
    Close to our destination the radio operator reported visibility of 300 meters in blowing sand, with a surface wind gusting to 40 Knots, we made a decision to land at our alternate, just 10 minutes away where the weather report was just better.
    On initial approach we could see very little in the poor visibility, but the weather radar was clear and we were in relatively smooth air with one stage of flap set,
    gear still up, positioned on an extended left base at 160 knots.
    Suddenly the sky around us went red, it became very turbulent, so we focussed on flying speed and attitude.
    We first hit a positive shear that forced me to close the thrust levers to avoid busting the flap limiting speed followed a second or two later with a violent negative shear that required TOGA in an attempt to keep the speed above the full flap Vref.
    At the time I was unsure what we had encountered, but it was a very wild ride until we flew into clear air again.
    It was only when we landed later that afternoon at our original destination that I had a clue.
    They asked "had we seen the tornados? " then the penny dropped.

    • @finger3215
      @finger3215 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Crazy story. What region was this in, and what plane were you flying?

    • @chrisg9627
      @chrisg9627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@finger3215 It was a BAe146 in North Africa

    • @CoMorbiditty
      @CoMorbiditty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Did you say yes? LOL
      Holy moly, pity the tower didnt think to tell you eh?

    • @chrisg9627
      @chrisg9627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@CoMorbiditty These fields have no ATC

    • @Stealth86651
      @Stealth86651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Blowing sans? Can't imagine the turbines and other parts are too fond of that. Great way to get looser tolerances for cheap I guess though.

  • @snivy_fan
    @snivy_fan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    Green Dot Aviation and Disaster Breakdown post within a day of each other, this is gonna be a good few days for videos

    • @Benjipee77
      @Benjipee77 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cringe

  • @materiagrezza9331
    @materiagrezza9331 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I love the "crash site today" segment you're adding in your most recent videos.

  • @cauldron938
    @cauldron938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +287

    That title implies the tornado is a solid object. Which thinking about it, it really is. A wall of wind, with no mercy. Rest in peace to all lives lost.

    • @FrancisFjordCupola
      @FrancisFjordCupola 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Put your hand in water and gently stir. Liquid. Do a jump (not recommended) from on high into the water and with the momentum of the jump, the water will feel a great deal more solid.

    • @blindgt
      @blindgt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FrancisFjordCupola😂😂

    • @5isalivegaming72
      @5isalivegaming72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It rips many solid objects in its path apart.
      It's definitely a physical thing, metaphysical if you will.

    • @Tuberuser187
      @Tuberuser187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Fluids (which air classes as under this context) can be as destructive as solid objects with enough velocity, pressure or time, in the case of wind erosion.

    • @EShirako
      @EShirako 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Also, it might be a wall of wind with solid chunks of ice or trees or houses or whatever too...which won't help anything at all, IF the wall of wind doesn't do you all on its own.

  • @grimmgoosegoose216
    @grimmgoosegoose216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I just have to say, i deeply appreciate how you cover these disasters. Especially with this story, it would be SO easy to emphasize the "spooky" coincidences, however the details about how the plane was named, how tornado systems work and how complex radar can be, along with the footage of the disaster site, anchoring this story in the community/physical location, truly drives home how complex and interesting our world is, WITHOUT the need for aliens.
    Your channel and The Missing Enigma both make the choice to visit the site of y'all's videos and i genuinely believe it adds SO much and honestly i think, combats alot of magical thinking/conspiracy thought that tends to follow disasters
    I just wanted to say a gigantic Thank You for all of your hard work!

  • @samcraft7573
    @samcraft7573 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +249

    Hearing you say “Fokker” never gets old.

    • @asan4628
      @asan4628 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      We can call the first ever fokker plane a motherfokker

    • @fireblue999
      @fireblue999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The marketing team know EXACTLY what they are doing when they name it the Fokker 28

    • @SeverityOne
      @SeverityOne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It was actually a very old brand, named after the company's founder, Anthony Fokker. He started out selling aeroplanes to the Germans in World War 1, when the Netherlands were neutral. It was the favourite aircraft of Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen, better known as the Red Baron.

    • @absurdist5134
      @absurdist5134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's named after Anthony Fokker, the founder. There's a list of famous fokkers on Wikipedia and the numerous aircraft built by that company. There were a lot of Fokkers, so it's an extensive list of Fokkers. Such as the Fokker Dr triplane. The Fokker Dr was famous and many people knew about the Fokker Dr.
      Please, show respect to the Fokker Dr.

    • @jacktaggart4923
      @jacktaggart4923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I snicker every time Fokker is said 😂

  • @kale_xo
    @kale_xo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    As someone who lives in Oklahoma, USA, where tornados are prevalent enough to be considered just a way of life, I found this episode extremely interesting. I’ve always wondered how this doesn’t happen more often (specifically before weather radar advancements), especially being in Tornado Alley, which also coincidentally coincides with the “flyover states” in America. That said, I am obviously glad that it is a rare occurrence. It’s just always been something I’ve wondered about and it was really interesting seeing your presentation on it. Your videos get better and better with each one. Thank you for all your hard work putting these together for us!

    • @TheAnxiousAardvark
      @TheAnxiousAardvark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lived just east of the Rockies and could step out the front door and see tornadoes out on the plains further east. Once was on a two lane road somewhere in SW Nebraska and saw funnel clouds on three sides of me. People who grow up outside "Tornado Alley," like I did, have no idea how common tornadoes are.

    • @Isaac.Eiland-Hall
      @Isaac.Eiland-Hall 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The brief answer on why it doesn't happen more often is that pilots tend to fly around bad weather. But that might spark the question: What about before radar? And the answer there is that they also still tried to fly around bad weather - but they were usually high enough to overfly stuff like this. Supercell thunderstorms can reach high into the sky, but the worst of the turbulance is relatively closer to the ground. But certainly planes did crash in bad weather.

    • @thomasaldridge3179
      @thomasaldridge3179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it's pretty interesting that the only known plane crash due to a tornado happened in the Netherlands, a place not exactly known for tornadoes, rather than somehere like Tornado alley

    • @SeeMeRolling
      @SeeMeRolling 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasaldridge3179 Tornadoes are quite common in the Netherlands, but they tend to be weak

  • @sunnyfon9065
    @sunnyfon9065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    One of the most forgotten air accidents brought to the light of the internet.

    • @Randomly_Browsing
      @Randomly_Browsing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I still remember this because i watch Ryan Kirkpatrick

    • @saamthepuffer4336
      @saamthepuffer4336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do I see you everywhere?

    • @Randomly_Browsing
      @Randomly_Browsing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saamthepuffer4336 who?

    • @sunnyfon9065
      @sunnyfon9065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Randomly_Browsing I remember that channel too! I used to often watch his ‘Top 10 air disasters’ in 2016-2018. I saw this particular accident in his Netherlands video.

    • @Randomly_Browsing
      @Randomly_Browsing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sunnyfon9065 yes

  • @kestrel4294
    @kestrel4294 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You have no idea how happy I am to hear your voice again! While I support many aviation channels, I really love the dedication and heart I feel with these drops. TY so much for all your hard work to make these for us.

  • @gregmay8049
    @gregmay8049 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You're an absolute born presenter! Your body language, voice and assertiveness is just amazing.

  • @astroswag8153
    @astroswag8153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    Videos are getting more and more cinematic, good work!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Thank you!

    • @Canadianaviator2
      @Canadianaviator2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DisasterBreakdown36 seconds!

    • @cesiumion
      @cesiumion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DisasterBreakdown Are you a transgender??

  • @NewChiqueChloe
    @NewChiqueChloe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    I used to watch all of your videos, and I just rediscovered your channel after a several year hiatus. The unbridled joy I felt when I realized that in the interim you'd also transitioned, and you'd also chosen the name Chloe, cannot be overstated. Welcome back to my home page, Chloe o7

    • @Fitzrovialitter
      @Fitzrovialitter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You feel unbridled joy when a TH-camr "transitions"? You're easily pleased.

    • @rachmunshine9474
      @rachmunshine9474 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@Fitzrovialitter her name is Chloe too - and “new chick…” (sorry I remember it was spelled with a Q but I don’t remember exactly how to spell it that way) “…Chloe” kind of sounds like maybe she also transitioned. So if a TH-camr that she is a fan of had the same experience and the same name now I can see her being happy. And some people like to use more extensive language than “the puppy is pretty.” I couldn’t think of a good simple sentence, but you get my point. Unbridled joy makes the point a lot better than I was happy to see.
      Anyway, what’s it to you or me? I’m just happy that others are happy. And at peace. And our slash this channel Chloe seems happy, and has thrown herself into her work. and that is good to see. I don’t think I’m really capable of unbridled joy since I’m going through a bit of a depression, not for the first time in my life. 😂 but I think it’s cool. 😎

    • @Nameless-lk8ld
      @Nameless-lk8ld 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad to see this because I had never seen this person before and I thought I was listening to a man and then I thought it was a bit of a comedy. But okay no worries 😉. What a tragedy this was.

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everybody cheer with the corporate bootlicker who is so happy that the pharmacological industry has another HRT slave for the rest of their life! We can look forward to increased profits same as the methadone zombies and type 2 diabetics!

    • @motionless_horizon
      @motionless_horizon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fitzrovialitteroops, your transphobia is showing with those quotation marks!

  • @zKend00
    @zKend00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    I was yelled at in a grocery store today... A DB video makes everything better

    • @senabecool7232
      @senabecool7232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That sounds quite unfortunate

    • @AnythingForSouls
      @AnythingForSouls 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      me too for injecting ket into bell peppers

    • @sunnyfon9065
      @sunnyfon9065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That sounds awful. Hope you’ll feel better soon.

    • @zKend00
      @zKend00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@AnythingForSouls ok you fully get the vibe, i love it

    • @zKend00
      @zKend00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sunnyfon9065 thanks, already do, there's nothing Chloe's voice cannot fix

  • @oliwia9461
    @oliwia9461 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    chloe i stumbled upon your channel just a month ago and you quickly took the number 1 spot in the list of my favorite aviation channels keep up the work and greetings from poland love ya!!

  • @birdbrain4445
    @birdbrain4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Before even watching the video, it's already taught me something. I saw 'NLM Cityhopper' in the title and at first thought it was probably a typo. 'Isn't it KLM Cityhopper?' I thought to myself, before realising it could have just been a name change I wasn't aware of. I go look up the airline and yeah, it was called NLM Cityhopper back then. The more you know. Chloe already teaching and she hasn't even started, great to have you back and I'm stoked for this one like always~

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The LM is airline, literally skysailing company.
      K is royal, N is Dutch.

    • @marcosveltmanus2997
      @marcosveltmanus2997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mycosys Yes thats correct, however still part of the KLM family, also back in the days. They only changed the name.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcosveltmanus2997 Kinda the other way - they were Nedline before KLM bought them

    • @marcosveltmanus2997
      @marcosveltmanus2997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mycosys You mean "Netherlines" and it was a fusion between both (KLM and netherlines) later the name has been changed to KLM CityHopper.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marcosveltmanus2997 yes, apologies, but it was part of Nedlloyd

  • @robertmcghintheorca49
    @robertmcghintheorca49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Welcome back, Chloe! Firstly, I'm glad that you enjoyed your vacation. Secondly, I would like to say that as someone who's had an interest in tornados ever since watching the film "Twister" (1996), this story is something I'm gobsmacked by. I've never heard of this one before. Thirdly, if you wish to discuss the Fokker F-28, F-70 and F-100's irritable icing problems, but there are so many cases to explore in one video, I'd recommended trying to embark on making a small miniseries about the Fokker icing accidents. Air Ontario Flight 1363 and U.S. Air Flight 405 being the prominent ones. Also, maybe give a flashback reference to PalAir Macedonian Airlines Flight 301. And finally, since I was mesmerised by the intros of your 1960 New York City Mid Air Collision and Air Canada Flight 621 videos, I had an idea for if you do a highly requested case like Turkish Airlines Flight 981 or United Airlines Flight 232. That at you include a heartbeat that speeds up as images of the plane in flight, cabin and cockpit flash with the beat, ending in the crescendo of a black screen and a crashing sound and then you start telling the story. That would give off a real disaster/horror film vibe. Anyways, in the meantime, I'll let you relax, and thank you for uploading this video about this forgotten, but unique tale in aviation history. I can't wait for the next one! Love from one of your biggest fans!

    • @randomscb-40charger78
      @randomscb-40charger78 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Chloe has eluded to doing a video on the icing accidents of the F28 as far back as her TAM 402 video, and the usage of the infamous Air Ontario plane in the video suggests we shall see a video on such soon.

    • @Transberrylemonaid
      @Transberrylemonaid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did t she do one before? Someone help me remember which flight that was. Though I rewatch her stuff plenty. 😂 I’ll find it eventually. Finding out about that problem and the way things changed both gripped me and then put me at ease with the solution lol 😂

    • @randomscb-40charger78
      @randomscb-40charger78 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Transberrylemonaid TAM 402 was a Fokker 100, not an F28. What she said was that she wasn't done talking about Fokker because the now-defunct Dutch company is an endless rabbit hole with seemingly no end.

    • @KitBits
      @KitBits 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TransberrylemonaidFFXIV noticed?

    • @spikenomoon
      @spikenomoon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KellyVictoriaGribbenAre you sure??? I’m not really sure.

  • @tonygroenewoud-powell53
    @tonygroenewoud-powell53 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    My adopted country, for the past 25 years! Chloe, you continue to excel! I look forward to your offerings so much. Great work! You should have come for Amsterdam Pride last week. It was awesome!

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where did you live before, and what made you move? :)
      (and perhaps most importantly: stay, haha)

  • @janmcguire5268
    @janmcguire5268 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’m not sure why it took the TH-cam algorithm so long to recommend your videos to me. I often watch this sort of content and subscribe to many similar channels. Late though it may be, I’m certainly glad the algorithm finally got around to it! I’m currently enjoying going back through your videos. I find them to be very well done! Thank you from a new subscriber from the USA. 😊

  • @hodgeheg480
    @hodgeheg480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thank you so much for not dumbing down the explanation of tornado formation!

  • @elaineroberts143
    @elaineroberts143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like that you go and visit some of the crash sites of the stories you bring us. Great job as always!

  • @williambrasky3891
    @williambrasky3891 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    First time watching your channel. Right when I’m lamenting the fact these disaster channels never seem willing to risk getting in the weeds by diving a bit deeper into the more technical details related to an incident, you show up here….
    And totally redeem yourself!!!
    Instant subscribe. Amazing work! Thank you!

    • @Spooky_Platypus
      @Spooky_Platypus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Try out Green Dot Aviation as well! He’s a pilot and goes into super detail AND does flights that I’ve never seen anyone else do.

  • @philipg6463
    @philipg6463 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So much information, incredible research and to actually visit the crash site is the icing on the cake. Thank you so much Chloe

  • @MultiplicativeDivision
    @MultiplicativeDivision 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1. The clarity of your presentation is amazing!! It is an art to tell the story with such lucidity. Especially how you weaved in the locations and view of the two people who took the tornado pictures.
    2. Your actual visits to the site of the incidents is praiseworthy.
    Great job!

  • @bubbleglass
    @bubbleglass หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent job as usual! I really appreciated how you went to the actual crash site. It satisfied my morbid curiosity tendencies.
    It is also refreshing to see you in person as you narrate the event. Be proud of the things you accomplish!

  • @zomrai
    @zomrai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    it’s been a long time since i’ve watched you and i haven’t been getting notifications but it’s great to see a new vid from you!!

  • @mollz6796
    @mollz6796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I haven’t watched your videos in while and I’ve missed them. Off topic a bit but you look amazing Chloe and I love your hair! Keep up the brilliant work as always and I’m so glad to be back watching your brilliant work you do covering these sad stories ❤

  • @ArmadaOne
    @ArmadaOne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I live in Holland, roughly 10 miles from where this incident took place and yet I've never heard of this accident.
    It's weird this wasn't bigger news considering the circumstances.

    • @c128stuff
      @c128stuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At the time, it was frontpage news in at least NRC, AD, Telegraaf, Parool and 'Vrije Volk', and some more newspapers, and on the 7th, the main story of the evening news. However, the reporting on the investigation was rather minimal.
      I was in Moerdijk at the time of the crash, visiting a family friend, and saw the inmediate aftermatch of it, so it is not something I'll ever forget.

    • @lisaschuster686
      @lisaschuster686 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every person on earth misses a dramatic event by sheer chance. 😊

    • @elianewinter2638
      @elianewinter2638 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe you weren't born yet? (that was in 1981)

    • @ArmadaOne
      @ArmadaOne หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elianewinter2638 I'll take that as a "You're younger than you look" compliment.
      No, I was a kid at the time and could have just missed this story somehow.

  • @Transberrylemonaid
    @Transberrylemonaid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chloe your videos are always worth waiting for and i thoroughly enjoy each one. Never worry about how long something takes. The last one take a while was a damn feature length! You blow us away, take care after your trip!

  • @doobat708
    @doobat708 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow, this happened about an hour away from me, and I'd never even heard about it! Got to say, I'm pleased you're the one to highlight it - you bring such excellent explanations, such insight in the details, but also compassion for the victims.
    Moerdijk is mostly known to the rest of the country for the bridges of the same name (both rail and motorway) which are the main ways of crossing the Hollands Diep - a confluence of a number of rivers that cross The Netherlands about midway through its waist.

  • @davesemak
    @davesemak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Your analysis of aviation history is fascinating, I’ve been studying aviation accidents for most of my life and you definitely bring advanced knowledge to the discussion

  • @me_and_my_piper739
    @me_and_my_piper739 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Like all your videos, this was very in-depth and yet very easy to understand. Although these kinds of videos are often incredibly sad, I do appreciate how you present the information. And the fact that you went to the actual crash site shows amazing dedication, which makes the video even better.
    One other thing, even though it makes no difference to how much I got out of the video, I just had to mention that I love your hair and makeup. 😊

  • @SpaceMoviePopcorn
    @SpaceMoviePopcorn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've studied hundreds of air disasters in meticulous detail for over 20 years and have never heard of this one. You have a great channel 👍 Keep it up and thank you

  • @GROOVYJOJO
    @GROOVYJOJO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your channel Chloe...you are my first choice in aviation videos. Thank you for all the time and effort that goes into your top-notch content ✈✈✈✈✈💙💙💙💙

  • @COWBOY_JW
    @COWBOY_JW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I must say..I've watched many air disaster channels .and yours by far is top notch ..second to none..your level of detail is F-ing perfect

  • @MoonlitEmbers010
    @MoonlitEmbers010 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This channel has become my comfort channel whilst i suffer with some dental issues

    • @MoonlitEmbers010
      @MoonlitEmbers010 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that quality at the start is outstanding! even on 720p

  • @Glegh
    @Glegh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    The fact the plane was named Eindhoven gave me goosebumps

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      indeed!

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I associate Eindhoven with WWII and Market Garden. My grandpa landed in Normandy on D-Day+2 and worked his way through France, Belgium, the Netherlands (including keeping the Ludendorff Bridge at Remagen intact for 10 before riding it down into the Rhine), and finally into Germany. At one point I'd learned a lot about that phase of the war in Europe (now mostly confused and forgotten in my mind). I don't imagine the people of Eindhoven are happy to hear from another American who knows their home only in the context of a terrible, terrible war.

    • @dascandy
      @dascandy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@beenaplumber8379 Lived there for ~8 years. Always happy to hear about the people that made us as free as we are. We should honor them where we can.

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@dascandy Thank you. Then I'll tell you a little about him. My grandpa hated seeing such beautiful places and people destroyed by either side during the war. He did his duty and was awarded 4 bronze stars, but he never claimed them. He didn't think people should receive medals for killing people. He never told me any of his specific actions that merited those medals either. He didn't want me to romanticize his actions, which ate at his insides until he died. He was a good man.
      I'm sure Eindhoven today is a beautiful city with a million new stories, far more worthy of the telling than stories from the past that define Eindhoven merely as a strategic site with an important bridge to be taken while hopefully not destroying the town too badly. That was my concern. My only knowledge of Eindhoven is its strategic importance during a war 80 years ago. We can never forget what happened, but I want to acknowledge that life moves on, and I'm sure Eindhoven has moved on too. My grandpa moved on as well in 1995. He was buried with military honors in Ft. Snelling National Cemetery in Minnesota.
      He would have loved to meet you, even if you weren't alive while he was there. He always took every opportunity to meet people from the European countries where he fought so he could thank them for their kindness and hospitality while he was there. It meant a lot to the soldiers, even if that's not a message that gets out very often.

    • @dascandy
      @dascandy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@beenaplumber8379 Eindhoven has indeed moved on. It used to be the place for Philips (of the light bulbs) and related companies, and now is being taken over by ASML (of microchips fame). Basically, if it's got electronics, ASML was involved in its creation. It's a fairly important city now, the second-largest high-tech sector in the Netherlands (behind Amsterdam and its fintech stuff).
      Nobody wins in a war. We all know that. I'm happy your grandfather didn't lose.

  • @ExperimentIV
    @ExperimentIV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this is one of the plane crashes that fascinates me most. thank you for covering it, chloe! 💖

  • @airfoxtrot2006
    @airfoxtrot2006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Great video Chloe, your work is very detailed and interesting when you visit the crash sites too. 😊

  • @MrCrystalcranium
    @MrCrystalcranium 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you so much for the time and passion you put into these mini-documentaries. I've watched many crash investigation and flight simulation channels on TH-cam and yours is among the best around. I worked for a small East Coast of the US regional airline named "Altair" at the time of this crash and we flew 85 passenger versions of the F-28. The pilots hated them and I had several of them tell me they were winter conditions deathtraps. As a ramp agent, I remember the cargo holds falling apart from baggage damage and the exposed fiberglass getting into our skin causing irritation and itching. Some small leading edge damage, according to Fokker's maintenance procedures at the time, could be temporarily repaired using duct tape! We never crashed one (and the airline went bankrupt in 1982 before we did!) but I'll always remember them as a real dog of an airplane.

    • @grimmgoosegoose216
      @grimmgoosegoose216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fascinating! It's kinda ridiculous that Standard Duct Tape was the recommended fix!

    • @MrCrystalcranium
      @MrCrystalcranium 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@grimmgoosegoose216 It was a temporary, stopgap repair until more permanent repairs could be made but can you imagine getting on a plane and seeing that!?

    • @TheAnxiousAardvark
      @TheAnxiousAardvark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrCrystalcranium It might look like duct/duck tape, but normally it's a different version called "speed tape." People get them confused when observing them from a distance, and there are numerous hysterical articles and videos of people seeing speed tape and confusing it with duct tape. Edit: I've flown on at least 5 international or intercontinental flights that had speed tape on them. Yes, I'm sure some people worried.

    • @TheAnxiousAardvark
      @TheAnxiousAardvark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grimmgoosegoose216 It isn't. Or shouldn't be. Since the 1980's and perhaps earlier, there's been something called "speed tape" that's different from duct tape. Temporary non-structural repairs. Wing leading edges being pretty common. Still in use today, BTW.

  • @larumpole
    @larumpole 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had to laugh at your muted surprise at the Dutch authorities placement of the plaque in memory of this disaster at the precise point of impact. As a frequent visitor to the Netherlands, this is sooo Dutch! The Dutch are a very logical people. They also have a wry sense of humor. That aside, thank you for another very informative video.

  • @briarrose8154
    @briarrose8154 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You look so pretty today! That hair color is so flattering on you. It really warms you up.

    • @truthylucy7068
      @truthylucy7068 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      She looks fabulous on top of being smart as a whip!
      Chloe's awesome! 💞

    • @ebubetony5097
      @ebubetony5097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His she biological female? I’m new to the channel and i was caught off guard because I thought I was listening to a male.

    • @truthylucy7068
      @truthylucy7068 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ebubetony5097 Her name is Chloé and she has an awesome channel.
      Whether she's a man, woman or Mary Poppins. We don't care!

    • @ebubetony5097
      @ebubetony5097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@truthylucy7068 I don’t don’t too. I just wasn’t expecting it.

    • @truthylucy7068
      @truthylucy7068 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ebubetony5097 👍😉

  • @billygamer3941
    @billygamer3941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderfully produced presentation, Chloe! The detailed explanation of rotary storms, particularly tornadoes, was well done and a revelation to me. Thank you.

  • @Sweetthang9
    @Sweetthang9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    First of all, you stop apologizing 😅. You make INCREDIBLE content that's worth waiting for! Don't listen to the ninnies who can't be patient for this fabulous FREE content. I understand why you are doing it though, I just want you to realize that the perfection you put into these is why I come back video after video....not how quick you bust them out.
    Secondly, some of the most sinister crashes to me are these weather related ones. For some reason, Pan Am 759 is one of the scariest. You're just taking off like a normal day and, instead of just losing an engine and crashing (ala AA191, which I live a couple miles from), your plane is just forced lower and lower and you slowly realize what's happening.
    Straight horror.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Windshear and/or tornadoes aren't a slow drop, AFAIK.
      Other than that, pretty much.

    • @Sweetthang9
      @Sweetthang9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@grmpEqweer I didn't say windshear or tornado. I said "weather related". The issue Pan Am 759 encountered a microburst that wouldn't allow it to ascend into the takeoff and thus slowly forced it down into a dense neighborhood.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sweetthang9
      Ok. I was under the impression microbursts tended to be a lot faster.

    • @Sweetthang9
      @Sweetthang9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@grmpEqweer Delta 191 (mentioned in the video), dealt with the same issue. They weren't widely understood in the 80's. But even other weather related accidents just give me the shivers: Pulkovo 612, Eastern 66, Bhoja 213, Cubana 9046, TAM 3054, etc.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sweetthang9
      The air can just rip the plane apart, with little indication of the threat prior.

  • @djjudas21
    @djjudas21 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciated the lesson on meteorology, thanks! And always nice to put a face to the voice 😊

    • @katferguson
      @katferguson หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤔

  • @JoePez
    @JoePez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a weather and aviation geek, this video is right up my alley

  • @justbrowsing8482
    @justbrowsing8482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Chloe! Where have you been!! Making this excellent video obviously! Thank you, as always informative and presented with respect to those lost.

  • @JosieJOK
    @JosieJOK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chloe, your videos are always worth the wait!

  • @dianeellis3925
    @dianeellis3925 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how you easily explain these accidents. Very thorough. Thanks 😸

  • @adriancrowe2126
    @adriancrowe2126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    OMG. Chloe, you're the BEST 😍. This release made my day. Thank you ❤🎉

  • @roo1314
    @roo1314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chloe videos are really, really good. By far the most informative, clear, and accurate. Mentour pilot is another good one. Thanks Chloe.

  • @c128stuff
    @c128stuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was witness to the inmediate aftermatch of this accident, and remember it like it happened yesterday. I have nothing to add to the information in your video, just thanks for paying some attention to this mostly forgotten air accident.

  • @sailaab
    @sailaab 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chloe it is always inspiring and touching.. how you make it a personal experience and that much more connected.. by visiting some the places/sites.. at-least the ones within Europe.
    And that fork in the narration and you taking us through the insights into various weather phenomenon DID actually add to this production and made the documentary that much more wholesome.
    Our thoughts are with those departed and the horrific realisation which they must have had.. once the plane lost its structural integrity and took those minutes before it 🥺.

  • @rodrigodezubiria2007
    @rodrigodezubiria2007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Best aviation meteorological horror video I’ve ever seen

  • @czbedo
    @czbedo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for uploading again Chloe! I’ve been following you for about two years now and I gotta say your content has been getting better and better. Thank you got keeping us updated and have a great day! ❤

  • @MaDmanEXE
    @MaDmanEXE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Best weather girl has returned!

    • @greenockscatman
      @greenockscatman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad to be here for Chloe’s weather girl arc

    • @sgt.eclair
      @sgt.eclair 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@taylorpaul4879 *Weathergirl

    • @AnetaMihaylova-d6f
      @AnetaMihaylova-d6f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh ​ boy😂

    • @N3therWolf
      @N3therWolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@taylorpaul4879you heavily insecure and that makes me intensely happy

    • @karllieck9064
      @karllieck9064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@N3therWolfStop gender baiting. When you do that, you're no better than the person you criticize.

  • @amylorentson468
    @amylorentson468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a truly incredible story!!
    Side note- You look amazing!! :)

  • @vhhawk
    @vhhawk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love how you credit the music on-screen at the right time. (5:14 for example)

  • @ianjames1179
    @ianjames1179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice one Chloe, totally love this Channel. Thank you for all your hard work. There are loads of aviation channels, and this is one of the really good ones.

  • @mycosys
    @mycosys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My Mother grew up in sight of Rotterdam Airport - my family are still there.
    Apparently one of my aunts used to sunbake topless on the roof of her building, til she noticed some rather low flying planes on approach XD

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cause and effect, i presume

  • @christopherclarke9316
    @christopherclarke9316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Keep'em coming Chloe. Always well researched and professionally produced.

  • @M_MTsc
    @M_MTsc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your videos are so awesome. No apology required. Even though I was anxiously waiting for it😊

  • @thefibergoddess6771
    @thefibergoddess6771 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Living in the US and having experience with tornado's, I have to say that your explanation of how they form and what they are is one of the best I've heard. They are no joke and if you see one move as fast as you can in the opposite direction!
    PS - I love your dress!

  • @GBOAC
    @GBOAC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What an amazing and well made video, thank you so much. I can't wait to see you take on the '92 El-Al crash in Amsterdam, which is has a lot of online resources available. EDIT: strike that last bit! You already did it and I seemingly fail to find it so far! Many thanks!
    Btw chilling coincedence to see you published this a day before the Flight 2283 crash in Sao Paolo, which seems to be from flying into a severe weather system as well.

  • @drewintampa
    @drewintampa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Chloe! I thought I was an air disaster aficionado until I saw this. Had no idea. Appreciate you traveling to the Netherlands to bring us this video.

    • @ebubetony5097
      @ebubetony5097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quick question bro coz I was caught of guard. Is she a former dude?

  • @MZTHICK76
    @MZTHICK76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Welcome back Chloe!! I hope you enjoyed your vacation 😊

  • @ShadesOClarity
    @ShadesOClarity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very unfortunate and rare. Your style is very informative and well produced. I used to live in Huntsville, Ala. and they suffered two devastating tornadoes. I was there when one struck in 1974 and they had another bad one in 1989. Southern Express Airways Flight 242 that made a forced landing on a highway in Georgia after suffering a duel engine flameout from hail originated in Huntsville. We had terrible storms in the summer.

  • @christianmhasler
    @christianmhasler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m very into your videos and Carly Anna’s tornado videos so this is like a crossover episode for me! Fantastic work as usual!

    • @LooseDeuce
      @LooseDeuce 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i love her videos, (and her very orange, Very cute cat!)

  • @JamesAnderson-fv3yo
    @JamesAnderson-fv3yo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love this channel, and seeIng how the production has improved is impressive. Can't wait for the next video 💪

  • @LissaC3072
    @LissaC3072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh Chloe, you do the best research!
    Worth the wait, as always. Thank you!

  • @IntrepidFraidyCat
    @IntrepidFraidyCat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hadn't heard of this accident before. Excellent video! I especially liked that you took the time to go over the storm type and how a tornado forms. New subscriber from Texas 🤠👍🏻

  • @bernardkealey6449
    @bernardkealey6449 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don’t usually take notice of sponsored content, but your presentation was very nicely done.

  • @retiredfirefighter415
    @retiredfirefighter415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another amazing video and an accident I haven’t heard of before. Thank you for covering more than most.

  • @theavandenberg6876
    @theavandenberg6876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have a vivid memory of that other big Dutch crash in the Bijlmer near Schiphol. This must have been big news too but I completely forget. Thanks for making it

  • @SableCatDog
    @SableCatDog 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    K now I've finished the video i can also add that it's excellent as always. Thank you for always making sense of things without being patronising. And I love that you visit so many places yourself for these too.

  • @haj3525
    @haj3525 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh Happy Day! Chloe is back with another amazing video! 🎉❤🎉

  • @barrymarootner504
    @barrymarootner504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The visuals on this channel are very good. One of the best aviation channels for sure.

  • @YAWSSSSSS
    @YAWSSSSSS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Was anyone else surprised to find out this flight didn't crash in the central USA where tornados are super common

    • @TUPELO_HUNNY
      @TUPELO_HUNNY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or the SE

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tornadoes are expected in several parts of the US (there are like five distinct 'tornado alleys') so both pilots and controllers are going to be considering them a threat in most any bad weather. In places where tornadoes are rare, it's only natural that people won't be planning for them, so I'm not really surprised that it happened elsewhere. Still wouldn't have been surprised if it was in the US of course, aside from the shock of not having heard about it yet. Planes and tornadoes are both mild obsessions of mine lol

  • @LeonardoFlor69
    @LeonardoFlor69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations on the sponsorship! Get that coin, sis

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    RIP
    To the passengers and crew of NLM CityHopper Flight 431

  • @bubblebus1
    @bubblebus1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Welcome back! This has been my first knowledge of the event. Let us hope it remains a unique example of being overwhelmed by such extreme forces. Many thanks.

  • @A320_shrek
    @A320_shrek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Your style of presenting these disasters is top tier! Keep it up! ❤

  • @KarynHill
    @KarynHill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's hard to wait so long between videos but each time, it's worth it.

  • @nyxqueenofshadows
    @nyxqueenofshadows 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    welcome back, and great video as always!

  • @jackiehoward7300
    @jackiehoward7300 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a terrible fear of tornadoes. I’m from the south having lived in Kentucky and Florida. I moved to Eastern Washington State because the weather is more predictable. I can’t imagine flying an aircraft anywhere near a tornado. They are so unpredictable though, that’s why I fear them. Thank you Chloe for the informative video.

  • @absurdist5134
    @absurdist5134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The pilgrimage to visit was a nice touch.

  • @michellemahar9030
    @michellemahar9030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how detailed all your videos are. It really helps understanding how this could happen. Off topic, I absolutely love your dress!

  • @bmwluxury
    @bmwluxury 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chloe, you put so much work on your videos and I enjoy them so much! You are beautiful and I love seeing you on screen more ❤️ thank you for sharing your transition journey. Exposure is very important. Much love

  • @soothsayersourdough
    @soothsayersourdough 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for your videos! You do such a great job explaining these concepts for fools like me (I have a sociology degree, we aren't trained in how planes work 😆). Love your asides to explain things further like the weather here and it's always so chilling to see the actual sites. It really adds a lot and I don't think I've ever seen another plane crash/disaster focused creator do that.

  • @largeradiance
    @largeradiance 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Chloe serving facts and looks as always

  • @jongoffinet8511
    @jongoffinet8511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quality presentation. Thank you for your hard work putting these together!👍🏻

  • @Bandaid_Brigade
    @Bandaid_Brigade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My god, what a horrid way to crash… RIP
    Side note: Tornadoes don’t only get classified by air speed. They also get classified by damage. So, wind speed of 200 doesn’t make a tornado an EF5

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think we've (🇺🇸) had a tornado with a clocked wind speed of 300mph. I believe that was the El Reno tornado.

    • @OrbManson7
      @OrbManson7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      true, nws just recently changed a reported ef3 to an ef4 we had out here in omaha, nebraska earlier this year because the assessed damage was greater than originally estimated, despite the initial classification being mostly based on the high wind speeds.

  • @caualopesferreira7486
    @caualopesferreira7486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible work. Thank you so much for your video and dedication!

  • @shadymorsi4347
    @shadymorsi4347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow i never thought someone would make a video about this diaster... i visited the crash site years ago and it was still rather obsceure Thanks Chloe for coverring it

  • @deeser
    @deeser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your, clearly well researched, videos are one of the best things on TH-cam.

  • @giggiddy
    @giggiddy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You said your personal life took an unexpected twist and the videos stopped. I hope it twists back. Lol😅

  • @auntbarbara5576
    @auntbarbara5576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome job as always Chloe.
    You put so much research, information and video production into your content.
    Your diligent and hard work shines through and we so appreciate.
    Aunt Barbara adores you! 🥰