How To Reseal Your Wire Wheels
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2016
- How To Reseal Your Leaking Dayton, Zenith, And China Wheels.
Materials Required:
1 (100%) Silicone Tube Per Rim
Caulking Gun
Brake Cleaner
Wire Wheel or Brush
Paper Towels
Cardboard
Approximate Time Per Rim 1 Hour.
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The rim looks like it was sprayed with a primer or something when you are putting on the silicone?
Yeah don't do that. That was a big mistake. The primer had no bite to it. The silicone slipped right off. Just wire wheel it/light scuff and apply silicone. DO NOT PRIMER (or the one we had by dupont) . THAT WAS A LESSON LEARNED THE HARD WAY.
@@Thran69 thanks!
@@frederickheims1105 its acid can rusted the wire?
Tried this a few weeks ago on one of my rims after finding a flat tire and a leaky spoke. Still holding up just fine a month later after daily driving on it. I used the same brand silicone as in the vid and it worked fine. To those of you wondering, yes this does work. Thanks so much man!
Thanks for the confirmation that this indeed works! Appreciate it. Check out my other videos!
@@Thran69 For sure man i will, thanks!
Still holding up?
Body shops use a material that's far tougher than silicone and it is impervious to petroleum. it's the black Polyurethane adhesive, you'll also see the windshield guys installing windshields with it. They put body panels together with it. Great stuff.
Well, of course, that stuff would work!!! I never tried it but I know the windshield seal is one of the most important on a car. I know that it has flexible properties and adheres to any surface quite well. Someone should try it and get back to me. I have another set of rims can try it on.
+Dave B I see no reason why this stuff wouldn't work. It has great adhesion properties. As long as you let dry I don't see why you couldn't use this stuff!! Great find!!
@@PietriGuitars I was referring to product s like 3M auto glass urethane, 08695 applied using a caulking type gun.
Very good job. If you put the wheel on the front of a car, turn the steering wheel all the way to access the wheel easier it will be easier to spread the silicone. I do this on a spin balancer for easy turning of the wheel, but i realize most people do not have that. The washing of the wheel is very important it is clean. Be quick with the silicone as in a few minutes it starts setting up. Thank you for your film, im sure it will help many.
I've just done this on my rims. I use Araldite to fill the spokes gap.
I've worked a lot over the years with silicone, If ever I am doing anything thicker than 1/16 in. I always let the first coat dry then add, it just gives a solid base that is immovable. But this is the best thing for wire wheels.
ray b In this case you really just want one solid continous layer. We made the mistake of spraying it with Primer that ender up making the silicone not stick. Wire brush it up and lay a coat of silicone no more than 1/4 inch. The video says more, anything more than that I think is just a waste.
ray b what Cain of silicone can I use and we’re can I get it
Nice job. Did the silicone mftr. recommend primer on the metal? How long might this last? Would be interesting to put a camera inside a wire wheel on a car to see how much the spokes move as the wheel rotates under load.
Very very good job , Mate . Keep it up.
Can you do a video on how to reverse wire wheels?
Can I apply a little bit to a small leak or do I have to resell the whole rim a little piece was pinched when they changed the tire
Did u paint them?
Hello Justin, i like your job. I write you from Argentina. I have a supermoto with a 100mph topspeed, but i rarely use it at that speeds. I have iron rims like in the video and i can't buy the special tape to do it tubeless. Do you think it may be possibble to do this with the silicone? I use it on the streets and sometimes on the kart track. Thanks a lot.
Marcos Valentini Don't go fast, and prep the area with a wire brush or wheel. Wipe it with alcohol, solvent, brake cleaner anything to make sure the surface clean. The less silicone you use the better, but at least 1/4 to 1/8 inch of silicone. You should be fine, just no top speed runs. & greetings from the USA.!!
one of the best
How many tubes did you use per set of wheels??? Thanks 🎉🎉🎉
What about that flex seal stuff? Together with some of that soud deadening material they use in trunks with woofers cut to fit the spoke area to prevent vibration loosening spokes should work great.
My brother has an '81 Mercedes SL that he has recently bought new chrome spoke wheels (Dayton Wheels) for that are losing air. However, from your video, it seems that many of his spokes are much closer to the tire bead area. Can the same remedy possibly work?
As long as you cover the entire spoke area, and prep the rim by using a solvent (brake cleaner, starting fluid). You should not have a problem, remember this isn't for high-speed applications. Worse case the silicone comes right off with a wire wheel!
Great video.
This is a cool video....I fixed and reseal my spoke wheels.... thank for the video
Thank you sooo much
You think it can handle a 150kph??
Hi! This seems like an awesome idea for my motorcycle rim. My bike has spoke rims and it uses a tube but I'd like to make it tubeless. This way if I'm ever on the road it could easily be fixed with a plug. Any suggestions and do you think it will work?
Judy Rodriguez Aslong as your not trying to race. Going anything above 80mph+ could cause problems. We did this knowing that this Corvette was going to be a slow Sunday Driver. Just my two cents, especially on a motorcycle. Shouldn't have a problem.
Justin Zimmerman my racing days are over. Thank you much!
very good idea, for less then 10.00 in supplies..
I didn't see that you put a seal over the silicone at the end. Do you still put a seal or is the silicone considered as the seal once applied???
Silicone, and done. Thats it. Been working for many years now!
Amazing wheel
Awesome 👍 video 👌
How meany tube of silicone did this take? Im in process of doing my 20 inch I just need to wire brush it and apply silicone
Two tubes? I mean we put it on thick, the less is better. Your making a gasket, not plastering a wall.
Nice work
If you tip the cardboard over from vertical it would be less than 3/4 inch.
Yeah 3/4" is wrong. More like 1/4" inch to 3/8ish. You want a layer of silicone, not a slab. Centrifugal forces will act harder on the more silicone. Less is more, while still having a layer.
Why are you suggesting the wrong thing?
Would this method work on go kart split rims to get rid of the tube
This is how this method was born. We are go car racers!
Kuat gag itu pake sealent doang , om from Indonesian 🙏
I have multiple sets of wire wheels and was curious how often do you have to reseal this method or how long has it lasted ? Very interested in repairing them myself.
3 tires still going strong. One is loosing air every 3 months. This was done in 2016. It's currently 2019. 20$ well spent. I'll do a teardown to see what happened/happens.
Ok thank you.
@@cjsfault8772 Make sure to subscribe, I also have a Instagram! I post automotive and maintenance stuff there.
@@Thran69 ok I'll check it out as well
Is it any leakage of air?
how much life of this process ?
5 yrs and holding
Thank you for sharing..♥️
You in LA?
I could use some help, one of my spoke rims wont hold air the tire's flat I change the tire and it still went flat could it be that I need to reseal it as in this video if so someone give me feedback willing to share contact info I hope that it's a quick fix
Duuuhhh,,....this video is the answer to your problem.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 got damn right it was ☝🏾😂
Hi, im looking at various ways to seal my motorcycle rims, some very expensive, some not. Do you have any idea on how heat and pressure will affect the success of your option?
Lee Hine This is bar far the cheapest and safest way of doing this. Some guys say the silicone is not the way to go, do your own research. It looks like the majority of the restoration guys agree on the urethane glue. (windshield seal glue) as it's allegdy have a better water, heat and stretching capability as compared to 100% silicone. This is how I did it. And it lasted 4 years and I'm not sure how the other rim failed. Taking apart in a week. When I'm not busy ✌️ 😁
@@Thran69 did you take apart the leaking rim?
@@TheRds797 I filled it back up with air and it held. Not sure if it was a leaky stem or bead. It's been holding ever since. Actually genuinely surprised it lasted this long. 10/10
@@Thran69 thank you
Can I apply a little bit to a small leak or do I have to resell the whole rim? Thank you
Moto guys are using marine sealant and 3M tape over top
That's an absolutely awesome recommendation. This should work aswell.
They use silicone to bond glass for fish tanks then after dried, they fill it with water. Never heard of one leaking.
Barry Wind what cain if silicone
Pure silicone in a caulking tube.
If the earth is a ball and spins,then why is the big dipper always in the same place each night?
The earth is flat, everyone knows this. All a conspiracy
and Obama was born in Kenya.
How often should you reseal?
Youll know when it doesnt hold air
what about Flex Seal
Brian King try it and lets us know
would this technique work for a motorcycle rim
Like I told Judy below, aslong as your not racing, or going top speed. There should not be a problem, the trick is to get the silicon thick enough to cover, but not too much.
OK thanks I just don't like putting tubes in my motorcycle tires because you're a pain in the butt to do without blowing the tube
What does brake cleaner do?
Cleans the area so the silicone will adhere. I use window weld instead of silicone. Its the stuff windshield guys to seal windshields.
any issues after several days or months?
Jayffer Sartorio Currently still full of air. No problems. Been like that since September of last year.
Does this get the wheel out of balance?
Kenneth Scott We actually were concerned by this. We took note of the weights on the wheel before and after. We noticed that we actually lost weights doing this. So in fact it actually made our rim more balanced. As long as you follow these instructions you won't have a balance problem.
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Zenith® plastic dip paint lol REALLY👌
Bro, budgets are tight. You know?
Would flex seal work jusg as good?
Frankie Marin really not sure. This was an old way that my father taught me how he use to seal up his Zenith Wire Wheels. I'm sure any 100% silicone will work.
flex Seal is not good I tried it already I currently use polyurethane thats made for Windows or doors...
Jaime Ramirez Sr. Were can I get this polyurethane
That is dangerous, the "centrifugal" forces at speed, together with the inertial shocks from bumps could easily lift that silicone. Decompression could then be very quick and possible catastrophic. ALL professional systems ensure that the sealant is held in place by a very strong and inelastic tape.
super
Thanks!
what is the adapter called ?
mark ibarra What adapter are you talking about? Sorry!!
no sorry that was for a other video
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Did it leak before?
Yes, It would not even last a day. All 4 tires have been full since September of 2016. No air added since. Worked perfectly!!
Justin Zimmerman nice ! I don't have spokes but I do have two piece center line wheels that leak
Dat Tepo I think you found your solution!!
Lol i just realised i bought the wrong material i got siliconed caulk
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I would stick with ether silicone or polyurethane mentioned below. The polyurethane is mainly used for front window seal. As it has to seal but still be somewhat flexible. Good question!!
Fuck I hate Tubes & Spokes 👎🖕👎, Great Video 👍
ATTENTION!!!!!
ima save yal lots of time and from a headache... if your spoke is leaking don't do this plz... simply get a tube in the tire. No need to make a mess or deform your rims.. u got 13s get a 13' tube you got 14s get a 14' tube and your good to go.
Some of us dont want tubes
@@vaschy2330 and some of us don't want to waste out time
Just use flex tape. So simple
This is actually a fantastic idea. Thanks!
@@Thran69 are you using tubeless tires after the process? Does the silicone hold up? Any danger in doing this?
@@Doomsara no tubes. Been holding since I did this. 5 yrs? Works great.
@@Thran69 thx man.. I might try this on my supermoto rims
@@Doomsara I dare you. 😁
Nice video, although I'd suggest you avoid all the mess by just using 3M 4412N tape. It ends up being almost identical except that it's instantly dry and better protected by the tape backing.
There's a video of someone doing a KTM motorbike wheel here: th-cam.com/video/AGyeA12terU/w-d-xo.html
I've done it on lots of wheels, and the glue on this tape is like a super-sticky version of silicon, and the backing of the tape is like a strong PTFE tape so the spokes can't puncture it.
I didn't see your comment. Yes, that stuff looks like it will do the trick nicely. Almost looks like the right stuff to use. Since we knew that we were not going to be doing any racing we figured this would work. Also seems that this is the cheap way out and it looks like most people taking this route. I'll leave this comment up so it can be seen!
Silicone will corrode the metal overtime, not the best fix.
Neil Challis Some silicone had a acid hardener that causes the corrosion. I could be wrong, but I don't think this one does. You could always ask the company. I have no problems with mine.
If it smells like vinegar it's acid cure like the vast majority of silicone. You have to special order the neutral cure stuff and it'll be clearly labeled. With all that said it's really just another nonissue blown out of proportion by armchair experts.
@@snigwithasword1284 Nah, most of the indoor, odor free stuff from Home Depot is the neutral cure silicone. If the VOC warning says it releases methanol or silane during cure, it should be a neutral cure silicone.
Makes me dizzy to watch the herky-jerky camera
Brasil 2018
90% Of my views for this video, (well use to) came from Indonesia. So, Yeah Indonesia 2018.
Do silicone eat up steel nipples? Some say they cause rusting the nipple then they leak.
Whoever put that wheel balance on the front is super wrong
boxboy50 Actually you can set the balancing machines to achieve different types of balances, including inside wheel only. If they do not achieve a nice balance after multiple attempts, they will let the air pressure out and move the tire on the wheel and start again. It's just more common to see them on the inside cause they want to be hidden. I agree that a two plane balance should be in theory, more balanced. Good eye for noticing that!
Well it looks bad in the front it also eats the chrome later on too which causes rust
Totally agree with you. If you got a pair of show rims, inside weights are mandatory!
I have an unhealthy fascination with large spoked wheels like these but my google-fu is clearly not up to snuff.
Do you ever check / tweak spoke tension? Is it possible to build or rebuild these wheels in a home shop, and are the components even available?
This ignorant bike nerd appreciates all attempts to educamate.
I think the going concensus is that this is normal for these to eventually leak. A permanent solution really hasn't been found besides the 200$ stretch silicone or other material type wrap. This is probably how it came from the factory. My video shows my DIY attempt at a common problem that held for over 4 years. Well Worth it in my opinion, and by the look of the view count. Others found it informative as well. To answer your question no never thought about it, and I don't think people do that normally.
Silicon will corrode the metal
You are welcome to pay quadruple price for the neutral cure stuff if it helps you sleep at night.
Anybody else cringe at 1:32 🤦♂️
Holly crap that "music" is really annoying
Why not put in a tube like old English wire wheel cars.
Tubes move around in the tires when cornering, efficiency, more weight. I mean really for this classic car it doesn't matter, we not trying to do land speed records. Your totally right! Unfortunately tubes in these zenith wire wheels tend to get cut up with excess burnouts. I dont who's been doing that 😁
Use polyurethane sealant, not silicone!
*facepalm*
Silicone will harden up, start peeling back and falling off especially with vibration +centrifugal force of spinning... Polyurethane won't.
"vulkem" is best
Also you're using at least ten times too much! My frigging god! 😂😂😂
toadamine Yes, we know that we used to much. As you can see in the comments I later changed this to 1/8th, to 1/4 inch. I disagree with the polyurethane. I think silicone is as good if not better due to its adhesion and anti corrosion properties. I think the silicone you used or material prep was not adequate for the job. Old silicone definetly will do this. I have over 6 tires that have been holding for over a year at 35 psi. No complaints world wide. So YMMV. Your right though, Its way too thick. 😂
I think the thickness is perfect. We used a quarter inch to three eights on glass tanks for fish.
toadamine depends on the silicone. silicone 1 is the old stuff that will seal almost anything its solvent based. whereas silicone 2 is the new formula made for the eco freaks. and its water based which doesn't give the same adhesion