I suggest to separate submarines from the rest of the navy. The navy groups move at the speed of the slowest component of the group. So, the submarines slow every ship down. Thank for the video!
italy naval focused game its so much fun, i made all the passive upgrade with navy three and spawn destroyer 2 with max light attack and recked the UK navy in mediterranean
@@hunter_bird5216 The real SP meta is to spam destroyers until 1940 and then exclusively building light cruisers. 1 Dreadnought and 300 Destroyers along with 10 spotter Cruisers are literally the best comp, 0 loses to AI.
I was gonna go bust one out but then I saw this video title pop up in my youtube feed I do not regret my decision. BATTLESHIPS BATTLESHIPS GRAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
25:03 I think that if you take the "Naval refit yards" navy spirit (the middle spirit) you can shave of 25% of your refit time. Just sayin for the future. ;)
47:20 Yeah, I'm pretty sure sending Fuel by Lend Lease only works correctly if you send a fixed quantity once. Daily % is outright bugged and just makes your fuel disappear into the void. You lose a percentage of your daily production, but your ally doesn't get anything because the code fails to get the correct daily production number and thinks it's zero.
Yeah but you still have to hold on to them when making ships. But seriously.... dont make ships that are over 11k cost XD its just not worth it fr. Only if you want to have like 1 to 2 super heavy battleships and like 1 extreme carrier with like 30 destroyers..... that is not ok XD.
Naval runs? You mean navy videos? If you meant that then yes.... Sadly because many people dont understand the easy system of navy..... its massive fun knowing full well that as germany you can build like 10 cheap PRE dreadnoughts (incredible outdated) and let them destroy a new full updated uk fleet XD. Ngl thats why i love the navy system. Just making trash ships or great ships but less and more fun experimental things ngl. Also a new Pass is coming out.... guess who will be making the new ICE aircraft carrier? XD
The Italian navy wasnt exactly a paper tiger during ww2, it gave the Allies a pretty hard time, it just failed to respond to the Allied naval aviation tactics + numerical superiority that won the naval war in general. It was definitely stronger and more competent than their army and air force
They even outnumbered the British in the Mediterranean, but as you said plus British night time specialties and advancements in radar allowed them to stay steps ahead of the Italians. I should probably mention that while the Italians had a larger fleet, they were still lacking in fuel so they could not bring it all to bear.
People also attribute a lot of operations in the Mediterranean to the Germans, when really most of the things that were done was wholly conducted by the Italian navy and naval aviation. The Germans only were able to provide support through submarines and some air wings.
@@treyebillups8602 yeah I don’t remember what the quote was, it was either a German or British officer that commented that they were surprised that there was no undertaking to at least equip some of their ships with radar.
I’m talking about in game. This isn’t a historical documentary lmao. The Italian navy is the weakest of all the majors (excluding ussr). Their ship designs are trash and tend to fall in massive numbers when going toe to toe with any allied fleet. Again, talking about in game.
For the naval invasions you can use the "support naval landing" task on your fleets so they will automatically protect the convoys and give shore bombardment, helping out :)
Thank u so much for making this video. I been asking a few hou4 youtubers to make a video like this for a week or 2 in thr comments and i suddenly see this on my recommended videos section. Im so happy. Thanks for making this video 👍
17:45 you can do it too, you attack under fire by clicking beyond the enemy behind them in a free tile. Ill play today and check if they fixed that though lol
i just did a mid/late game navy poland after getting wojtek as the leader. my setup that wrecked the uk and usa fleets was 1940 destroyers with level 3 batteries for the main and torps, light attack light cruisers with 3 lvl 3 light cruiser batteries, about 5 heavy cruisers with max AA in every slot except the main battery, and then 1940 BB with i think 3 lvl 3 heavy batteries and good fire control.. my scouting task force was 5 light cruisers with improved catapults, aa, and radar. it will smash any ai fleet it meets, pretty fun
i did this same thing recently. it's sad to say that despite their constant reworks to the navy, doomstacking is still the only way to play. i couldn't for the life of me break out of the mediterranean until i just bunched up my entire fleet into one and sent it on patrol. also the vast majority of ships of the time were coal-powered. why the navy eats oil like that, makes no sense.
Just in case you don't know, you can withdraw from treaty agreement in the beginning of the game, not directly but after few months. You waited few years for that
I liked this video. Made me want to make videos. And I liked the build. What made the super heavies so unkillable? Was it the super hevaies doing all the dmg, or did the destroyers torps etc do a lot of dmg? Did building them and then refitting save much time?
I don't know of any other channels that actually demonstrate the navy well in this game. If you just read forums everyone says the 4:1 screens to capitals ratio, carriers are the best and that you just need a death stack. I lost a lot of naval battles before watching your Japan Navy video and after I actually understood it. Until this video it was proven to me that cheap screens were very important, but I still thought Battleships were a waste of time and IC, but 39:52 and 40:15 really shows that most people don't understand navy. Never thought I would see 5 battleships and a ton of cheap screens melt the British Navy like that.
Watch Hammurabae’s navy guide. His vids are a wealth of knowledge and he explains stuff really well. That’s where I learned (or at least am learning) most of my navy knowledge. Dudes goated.
Look, if youre doing a full battleship destroyers tactic, you need at least 50 to 100 planes to back up ure battleships. Otherwise the enemy carriers would take away youre battleships Organisation using the enemy planes. The reason you destroyed theire ships was because you had heavy attack and aircrafts. Flak doesnt do much for youre Organisation. Also if you got a pretty good navy that you trust youre country with, put them on always engage and never disengage so that no matter how big the enemy navy is, youre ships WILL engage and WILL not retreat even if almost destroyed. Because otherwise youre carriers or battleships or even destroyers/cruisers will retreat when having half health...... you always need protection for youre main ships.
Interesting approach, very enjoyable, I think your navy bomber did quite a heavy lift there, SHB is too slow to catch up with post-1936 ships but doing great vs old models, max soft damage CL+ max torpedo DD will be more efficient but less fun. lol BTW, put navy refit spirit and update refit tech in the industry line will improve the refit speed and with navy production national focus will be even better...
It’s good for when you run out of fuel or if your convoys start to get sunk, you have a reserve available. I never really ended up needing the reserve, but sometimes you just do need it. It’s nice to have just in case.
To use heavy battleships? No, actually stole the idea from a comment on a bittersteel vid asking him to make a navy vid as Italy. Also, I’ve been watching a ton of hammurabae navy vids which he makes navies similar to my design and setup.
It’s actually the same mic, but I’m trying to find a style of sound that I like (and also I’m tying to make it not sound like it’s a 15$ mic even though it is). I kinda like how it sounds in this vid, but I might tweak it up a lil bit more.
Italy was never in the FAILING CAMPAIGN in Ethiopia . Even Germasn where surprised how fast the Italians conquerd it . And Regina Marina was NEVER a paper tiger. It has its isues , yes. But a paper tiger dont sink 130 british warships in mediteranian.
Cool video but please for the love of god make sure your elite troops have guns it makes a huge difference. If you're struggling on the guns you can make a specific template get equipment first with the two arrows in the div design screen!
19:32 I’m not Romanian but I think it’s pronounced Clue-ee, like cloo with an extra E sound afterward. Cluj (I think this probably Latin i turning into a j becuase monks + style)
21:05 the financial expert is the worst advisor in the game after the consumer goods changes. Because it’s a factor instead of base reduction you’re literally getting 1-2 more factories (if you have hundreds). Complete waste of PP
@@thetibbiesshow Ahh seems like you know everything already, but for anyone else watching who wants to learn - since you’re already on war economy and you have 100 stability, your *best* case scenario is you’re taking your expected consumer goods from 16% to 14%. So a difference of 2 factories when you’ve got 100. If there are any other CG factor reductions from spirits or focuses, the impact of the advisor is even less. You can do a lot better than 1-2% more factories for 150PP 🤷♂️
gotta practice talking a little bit tbh edit: the video editing also leaves some to be desired, the video is way too long, could definately leave out less important details
It was so painful to watch this Not because of the Super Heavy Ships (because that's actually fun) but because you commit SEVERAL mistakes through your gameplay and then you rant on why "this thing" does this that you don't like
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I suggest to separate submarines from the rest of the navy. The navy groups move at the speed of the slowest component of the group. So, the submarines slow every ship down. Thank for the video!
I actually had them in a completely separate navy with a wolfpack leader.
@@thetibbiesshow Yeah, Sorry. I stopped yesterday after the war with turkey.
italy naval focused game its so much fun, i made all the passive upgrade with navy three and spawn destroyer 2 with max light attack and recked the UK navy in mediterranean
Just destroyers??
@@hunter_bird5216 probably not, but refitting original navy is really all you have to do anyways
@@hunter_bird5216 The real SP meta is to spam destroyers until 1940 and then exclusively building light cruisers. 1 Dreadnought and 300 Destroyers along with 10 spotter Cruisers are literally the best comp, 0 loses to AI.
Finally the million dollar question
I was gonna go bust one out but then I saw this video title pop up in my youtube feed
I do not regret my decision. BATTLESHIPS BATTLESHIPS GRAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
Lmaooooooooooooooo
I was honestly shocked to find out i wasnt watching a TH-camr with a 100k plus subs or something.
You earned a subscriber man! Great video
I appreciate that man, thank you!
Same!
25:03 I think that if you take the "Naval refit yards" navy spirit (the middle spirit) you can shave of 25% of your refit time. Just sayin for the future. ;)
47:20 Yeah, I'm pretty sure sending Fuel by Lend Lease only works correctly if you send a fixed quantity once. Daily % is outright bugged and just makes your fuel disappear into the void. You lose a percentage of your daily production, but your ally doesn't get anything because the code fails to get the correct daily production number and thinks it's zero.
Navy treaties are more of guidelines than actual rules.
Yeah but you still have to hold on to them when making ships. But seriously.... dont make ships that are over 11k cost XD its just not worth it fr. Only if you want to have like 1 to 2 super heavy battleships and like 1 extreme carrier with like 30 destroyers..... that is not ok XD.
Big ship go brrrrrrr@@galilelollel9658
Navy is oddly fun to watch, it's a shame there aren't more naval runs in hoi4.
Naval runs? You mean navy videos? If you meant that then yes.... Sadly because many people dont understand the easy system of navy..... its massive fun knowing full well that as germany you can build like 10 cheap PRE dreadnoughts (incredible outdated) and let them destroy a new full updated uk fleet XD. Ngl thats why i love the navy system. Just making trash ships or great ships but less and more fun experimental things ngl. Also a new Pass is coming out.... guess who will be making the new ICE aircraft carrier? XD
*50 destroyers sunk in one battle*
“That wasn’t bad”
The Italian navy wasnt exactly a paper tiger during ww2, it gave the Allies a pretty hard time, it just failed to respond to the Allied naval aviation tactics + numerical superiority that won the naval war in general. It was definitely stronger and more competent than their army and air force
They even outnumbered the British in the Mediterranean, but as you said plus British night time specialties and advancements in radar allowed them to stay steps ahead of the Italians. I should probably mention that while the Italians had a larger fleet, they were still lacking in fuel so they could not bring it all to bear.
@@darkest_eclipse8271 Can’t believe I forgot radar, that was probably the biggest thing
People also attribute a lot of operations in the Mediterranean to the Germans, when really most of the things that were done was wholly conducted by the Italian navy and naval aviation. The Germans only were able to provide support through submarines and some air wings.
@@treyebillups8602 yeah I don’t remember what the quote was, it was either a German or British officer that commented that they were surprised that there was no undertaking to at least equip some of their ships with radar.
I’m talking about in game. This isn’t a historical documentary lmao. The Italian navy is the weakest of all the majors (excluding ussr). Their ship designs are trash and tend to fall in massive numbers when going toe to toe with any allied fleet. Again, talking about in game.
For the naval invasions you can use the "support naval landing" task on your fleets so they will automatically protect the convoys and give shore bombardment, helping out :)
Hello from Denmark!
Ps please play more Denmark I loved the max welfare tanks video
Working on a danclaw achievement guide now!
😀awesome!!!!
12:40 no, players can do it too if you just click the tile behind the one you want to attack
That dang council of losers!
Thank u so much for making this video. I been asking a few hou4 youtubers to make a video like this for a week or 2 in thr comments and i suddenly see this on my recommended videos section. Im so happy. Thanks for making this video 👍
17:45 you can do it too, you attack under fire by clicking beyond the enemy behind them in a free tile. Ill play today and check if they fixed that though lol
Yes it still works
Disregard council of cringe, construct boats.
Love your videos man, you have a very entertaining sense of humor
We are the super duper men! Super men! Super men! Super duper men!
Always engage is your friend, and no repair.
i just did a mid/late game navy poland after getting wojtek as the leader. my setup that wrecked the uk and usa fleets was 1940 destroyers with level 3 batteries for the main and torps, light attack light cruisers with 3 lvl 3 light cruiser batteries, about 5 heavy cruisers with max AA in every slot except the main battery, and then 1940 BB with i think 3 lvl 3 heavy batteries and good fire control.. my scouting task force was 5 light cruisers with improved catapults, aa, and radar. it will smash any ai fleet it meets, pretty fun
i did this same thing recently. it's sad to say that despite their constant reworks to the navy, doomstacking is still the only way to play. i couldn't for the life of me break out of the mediterranean until i just bunched up my entire fleet into one and sent it on patrol. also the vast majority of ships of the time were coal-powered. why the navy eats oil like that, makes no sense.
honestly some of the best games come from doing something because it would be funny.
Keep it up man you’re doing great
Just in case you don't know, you can withdraw from treaty agreement in the beginning of the game, not directly but after few months. You waited few years for that
I remember i did similiar thing when bba droped. British destroyed my SH battleship while it was inna way, to my main navy. It was bismarcked.
good video. I like the length!!
19:35 nice. you guessed it. Kolozs
mexico joined. it's over. that's a restart right there. major time loss.
When I'm in a "making goated videos" competition and my opponent is tibbies 😮
XD
Love your content man ❤
Appreciate it!
How many total boats did the super heavies sink by the end? Loved the video!
I liked this video. Made me want to make videos. And I liked the build. What made the super heavies so unkillable? Was it the super hevaies doing all the dmg, or did the destroyers torps etc do a lot of dmg? Did building them and then refitting save much time?
Ahhhh I wish you had shown all the 5 ships kills at the end of the campaign!
I definitely should have. No idea why it didn’t even occur to me, but next navy vid, I’ll do that.
@@thetibbiesshow Nice! Had a blast watching this one,maybe you could try something similar with Germany or Japan?
I don't know of any other channels that actually demonstrate the navy well in this game. If you just read forums everyone says the 4:1 screens to capitals ratio, carriers are the best and that you just need a death stack. I lost a lot of naval battles before watching your Japan Navy video and after I actually understood it. Until this video it was proven to me that cheap screens were very important, but I still thought Battleships were a waste of time and IC, but 39:52 and 40:15 really shows that most people don't understand navy. Never thought I would see 5 battleships and a ton of cheap screens melt the British Navy like that.
Watch Hammurabae’s navy guide. His vids are a wealth of knowledge and he explains stuff really well. That’s where I learned (or at least am learning) most of my navy knowledge. Dudes goated.
@@thetibbiesshow his videos were too much information for me when I had about 20 hours into this game, but now I think it's time for a rewatch.
Look, if youre doing a full battleship destroyers tactic, you need at least 50 to 100 planes to back up ure battleships. Otherwise the enemy carriers would take away youre battleships Organisation using the enemy planes. The reason you destroyed theire ships was because you had heavy attack and aircrafts. Flak doesnt do much for youre Organisation. Also if you got a pretty good navy that you trust youre country with, put them on always engage and never disengage so that no matter how big the enemy navy is, youre ships WILL engage and WILL not retreat even if almost destroyed. Because otherwise youre carriers or battleships or even destroyers/cruisers will retreat when having half health...... you always need protection for youre main ships.
Interesting approach, very enjoyable, I think your navy bomber did quite a heavy lift there, SHB is too slow to catch up with post-1936 ships but doing great vs old models, max soft damage CL+ max torpedo DD will be more efficient but less fun. lol BTW, put navy refit spirit and update refit tech in the industry line will improve the refit speed and with navy production national focus will be even better...
Aren’t surface ships torps bugged and do nothing
22:23 could you explain your thoughts here? It’s just fuel silos for storage, not refineries for production? Seems worthless to me so I’m curious
It’s good for when you run out of fuel or if your convoys start to get sunk, you have a reserve available. I never really ended up needing the reserve, but sometimes you just do need it. It’s nice to have just in case.
30:54 killing italy as Italy, pretty historically accurate tho tbh
Perhaps USSR Navy game next for some added challenge 🫡
19:53 Boo ko veen ar , boo ko veen ah is the pronunciation, pretty sure, also heard it started buck-oh Veen ah
How is Ethiopia a failing campaign? Not at any stage did we fail on our grand objectives.
my puppet romania gave bessarabia to soviets while we were at war with them xD, i was in stalingrad when it happend
Please explain to my caveman brain how navy works. I consistently fail to make it work and I wish I could.
I heard that Tim Walz reference lol
Did you actually steel that strat from the Hoi4 Sub lol?
To use heavy battleships? No, actually stole the idea from a comment on a bittersteel vid asking him to make a navy vid as Italy. Also, I’ve been watching a ton of hammurabae navy vids which he makes navies similar to my design and setup.
@@thetibbiesshow hammurabae is goated for vanilla and MD guides
Love the new mic
It’s actually the same mic, but I’m trying to find a style of sound that I like (and also I’m tying to make it not sound like it’s a 15$ mic even though it is). I kinda like how it sounds in this vid, but I might tweak it up a lil bit more.
Amazing content!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Italy was never in the FAILING CAMPAIGN in Ethiopia .
Even Germasn where surprised how fast the Italians conquerd it .
And Regina Marina was NEVER a paper tiger.
It has its isues , yes.
But a paper tiger dont sink 130 british warships in mediteranian.
Hi from Italy
Cool video but please for the love of god make sure your elite troops have guns it makes a huge difference. If you're struggling on the guns you can make a specific template get equipment first with the two arrows in the div design screen!
The character from the Addams Family do you mean Lurch the servant or Fester?
Hi also from Italy
Hi not from Italy
Lmao
19:32 I’m not Romanian but I think it’s pronounced Clue-ee, like cloo with an extra E sound afterward. Cluj (I think this probably Latin i turning into a j becuase monks + style)
Hi again will you stream the strategic game rome good video
Probably, just need to find time to do streams ahaha
@@thetibbiesshow ok tanks
Bro how did you understand navy😭😭
I do wonder why you kept all the shitter divisions and not disbanded them cause that’s very cursed lmao
They’re make great port guards.
42:32 HOLY SHIT AZERBAIJAN?? 🇦🇿🇦🇿🐺💥
21:05 the financial expert is the worst advisor in the game after the consumer goods changes. Because it’s a factor instead of base reduction you’re literally getting 1-2 more factories (if you have hundreds). Complete waste of PP
Extra factories is great, especially when I have pp to spend and want extra factories.
@@thetibbiesshow Ahh seems like you know everything already, but for anyone else watching who wants to learn - since you’re already on war economy and you have 100 stability, your *best* case scenario is you’re taking your expected consumer goods from 16% to 14%. So a difference of 2 factories when you’ve got 100. If there are any other CG factor reductions from spirits or focuses, the impact of the advisor is even less.
You can do a lot better than 1-2% more factories for 150PP 🤷♂️
@JDothan 👍
gotta practice talking a little bit tbh
edit: the video editing also leaves some to be desired, the video is way too long, could definately leave out less important details
XD
It was so painful to watch this
Not because of the Super Heavy Ships (because that's actually fun) but because you commit SEVERAL mistakes through your gameplay and then you rant on why "this thing" does this that you don't like
Sorry to hear you didn’t enjoy the vid, I hope you have a great rest of your week, man.
@@thetibbiesshow, you too.
It's just a matter of learning
This guy sucks at hoi4 😭🙏
I do, but I still have fun though.