UPDATE: As of 7:30p EST it seems that the pre-order status is unavailable on Amazon. Check back over the next few hours and days as I was told this was for PREORDER FIRST. Will update this post with more info when I have it. Uploaded as soon as it became available for PREORDER on Amazon Limited quantities of the AC edition (as I'm told by FlyDigi)! I will also have a few to give away (both Apex and Vader models) at WSOW AND TWITCHCON!
i was just thinking about selling my elite 2 and buy a new controller , im gonna buy this one , you conviced me , big fan here , keep up the good work brother
I feel so scammed, I went and bought a PS5 edge for PC 5 months back, and they have absolutly nothing so advanced. Thought there would be controler modules for replacement, but those are always out of stock. The Vader 4 Pro is so user oriented, they know exactly what gamers need for different genres of games. Hope they keep the focus on their products. I might have to treat myself for christmas again. Really nice review as well.
@@maxvader1000 yep. But Flydigi is the clear winner with native support to work with windows, comes with 1000 hz polling rate without haveing to use external software, and I am sure with the tension adjustable stick, most would find their preferred tension. And It comes at half the cost of an edge controller, whose replacement controller modules are going for the price of a Gamesir controller.
Got the controller in about a week ago and this is genuinely the best controller I’ve ever used. Was worried about the rear button placement but they are placed in the perfect position. It’s reminds me of a better version of scufs rear buttons.
I’ve never used an Xbox layout until I switched to this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it’s more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps and those paddle placements actually feel weird to me now. I’ll never buy another scuf again. You’re selling if those are your reasons for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 I tried the apex 4, and I really hated the big gap in between the back buttons. Coming from a scuff reflex, I just love how the back paddles are connected and I don’t actually have to shift my middle fingers in order to press them.
@@Dangerrd Yeah I didn’t like them at first but you get used to them. The grip tape for the paddles is a must otherwise they were too slick and clunky to use. Love them now and haven’t touched my scuf since
I’ve had this controller for a couple of weeks now, won’t go back to any other controller. Buy the stick on grip tape and it feels better than any other controller I’ve used (just about been through them all at this point). 0 0 dead zone feels amazing too
@@shaners1591 personally i prefer the vader 4 pro for fps games. the haptic triggers are something I can live without on the Apex 4 and I dont love the screen either.
As an owner of both controllers as well as many other Pro controllers I wholeheartedly agree the vader 4 Pro takes it to a new level. It's like my secret weapon in war zone.
what "pro" controllers do you have if you dont mind me asking? ive been looking into getting a Nagashock or battle beaver but this might add another option to the list, just not a fan of Xbox stick placement.
good content as usual! I got my 4 PRO today, first plunder game I got 21 kills and was accused of hacking by team of 4 that me and my buddy were farming. The tension rings are awesome! 4pro + Art sound is the shit! 👏🏻
@@fanatik3287im currently using the envision pro but I just bought the vader 4. My envision pro cant be overclocked, my back paddle broke after 2 months and now my Right trigger stopped working and the icue software has been a nightmare for me. Hopefully your experience has been better.
I had to go buy a new ps4 roller and connect it to my PlayStation paddles because these companies love making the left analog stick like the Xbox 😂 We need some ps4 roller love with paddles and clickynessssss
Just came in an hour ago works amazingly with the xbox and the goku usb adapter the difference between this and the elite 2 is crazyy this one is way more responsive and in my opinion way better in every way!
@@haydenwilson6852 you have to connect the goku with a normal xbox controller set the vader 4 pro on bluetooth and thats it no latency at all ive been cooking people in warzone like never before lol;
I've never used an Xbox layout until I tried this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it's more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps actually feels weird to me now and no no longer gets used. You're selling if that’s your only reason for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 see I’m the exact opposite. I used the Xbox layout for years, then switched to the PS5 scuf. Now I can’t go back because I love the PS layout so much better. I use the Apex 4 for almost 3 weeks, played awful with it back to back days, switched back to my PS5 scuf, and immediately went on an eight game win streak on COD MP ranked with a 1.35 KD. I can’t say it was for sure the controller but it just feels so much better
@Teddward same i got the instinct pro and then got a PC so wanted to try the ps and got the impact fps and then the reflex fps and can't go back honestly I love the ps4 layout better but def couldn't go back to xbox I tried and hated it idk it just feels to off for me
@@Teddward Lol yeah it’s crazy how that works. It’s definitely placebo effect because you have the skill but you should obviously use what feels most comfortable to you. My comment is towards the people knocking it before they tried it which I now know you have. Still interesting either way
I love the fact that you go in depth with all the settings and features and explain everything thoroughly you basically sold one of these to me lol can you please do a video on the Razer Wolverine V3 pro if you get your hands on it. It's new and it looks interesting since it works on xbox as well much love ❤
Hey Art love the content as always. Definitely going to order this soon, but what thumbstick extender/grip are you using in the video? Currently on a series 2 controller and it has an extended thumbstick so I'll need to get something for the Vader and yours looks nice and comfortable too.
8:52 this statement is completely false due to the fact that shooter games automatically use a software like the space 3.0 app that makes the path of the joystick or circularity a perfect 0. If you know anything about audio its basically a raw input and when it reaches the game it uses a "target curve" to change the input for a better experience. Please do a little more research before doing these reviews as many people see them and when even the slightest misconception becomes apparent to a large audience they wont know any better because they indeed believe everything they see on the internet...
Hi ArtisWar, i bought this controller. I used to play CoD on MnK all the time, but I recently switched to controller. It will take a long time before i get comfortable with it though. First game i played with the Vader 4 pro i dropped 45 kills. :)
Can you describe a simple test to feel the effects of circularity in game? I see the test you did, and it's impressive, I'm just having a hard time distinguishing this setting on with any other pro controller. Great work and keep it up, AIW!
The only software changes I noticed is that the controller is 10x more buggy than the apex 4. The top 2 rear buttons dont work 90% of the time, joysticks input random values and drift, the C and Z only work 90% of the time too. Not to mention, where are the rubber grips? I mean seriously, if $40-60 come with rubber grips and similar specs, this $80 controller very well should do the same...
I'm really happy with this controller. I was used to the Xbox Elite Series 2. For me the Vader 4 Pro checks off a lot of things that I wished the Elite 2 had. Only thing I prefered on the Elite 2 are the padels.
Damn bro I just ordered one of these like 3 days ago after I saw this video today, gonna cancel my order purely to support your channel and add the insurance its a no brainer. Have you tried the gulikit King Kong 3?
I'm told this feature will be added to the Apex in the future with a software update but for now, the circularity/rectangularity option is only on the Vader 4 Pro
saw this video yesterday and decided that since i needed a new controller anyway i might as well give this company another shot as i ended up buying the vader 3 and absolutely hated it as it was non functional and ended up returning it im hoping the vader 4 works as well as youve described cause you made it sound like a really nice option for controller users
Will Flydigi be updating Apex 4 software to have the circular form for sticks? And 1000% agree that the front extra buttons should be on the sides like the Scuf Envision. Would make this an endgame controller.
I'm afraid this is something they can't do, otherwise they have already updated it. I have Apex 4 and it's a bummer that we can't have the Vadder 4 functionalities
I have had the Apex 4 for about 5 months now, still love it and is easily best controller I have ever used. However, would recommend the Vader 4 purely for the price to feature ratio, $80 is insane for what you are getting.
Exactly bro, when u play fps game u gonna need soft left stick and hard right stick, i have to use foam ring to do it on my controllers but it make the stick cant go max range, it's quiet ok coz i alway play with verry high sensi but with this stick, u dont need foam ring anymore and becoz u can go max range on right stick, u have more options for right stick sensi !
Hey there ART. Have you notice any joystick issues with your Vader 4 Pro? On the software end everything looks fine, but with BO6, the in game experience has been on and off with the joystick accuracy. Seems to loose its accuracy and almost like its bouncing around while ADS. And yes, I've tried messing with the debounce and calibration, just can't get to function properly lately. Been using it for almost 3 months, could it just be with B06? I've gone back to my PS5 controller. BTW, great video review on the controller!
aww damn that sucks to hear after i just bought this a few hours ago to try to out in warzone. all the reviews made this out to be the best gamepad for shooters. is the issue with the sticks so bad that it makes the game unplayable?
@@musek5048 im hoping its just a BO6 thing, or a simple software or game update. the Hall effect centering accuracy been on and off between games. but give it a try, im sure you'll enjoy the vader 4 pro.
@@y3eMAN just got mine in today and so far i'm loving it. the sticks feel great and i already feel and improvement in my aiming from just using the stick dials. there was an update for the dongle and controller so maybe that could be causing an issue for some. very impressed with it for now, the real test will be longevity, i've already had to replace two xbox controllers because they got really bad drift after a couple months of use which is why i looked into more premium gamepads like this one.
@@musek5048 that's wonderful to hear! I've gone through 2 xbox Elites, and 2 ps5 dual sense controllers also, and really the big reason of this purchase. Can't wait to get mines back up and running. Thanks!
Art, I care a lot about your opinion. I believe it would be a good idea to do a comparison between the 8Bitdo Ultimate controller and the one you mentioned here. I currently use the 8Bitdo and I haven’t had any issues for about 2 years now. Great video btw
Really love the APEX 4, but looking forward to receiving the Vader 4 pro for the hard trigger stops, the extra buttons, and better functionality. I just wish they would have used the same grip material as the Apex 4, and I was fine paying the higher price for the better materials, I also wish they would have their own extra sticks like the Xbox Elite controllers, even if it's an add on purchase. I like the kontrol freaks but would prefer a first party solution. Definitely love that the tension is now adjust on demand instead of the tool and popping off the top half of the case.
I purchased and tried to use the Apex 4 controller you recommended but I could not get over the back button placement. I can easily use all 4 back paddles using different fingers for each on Xbox's Elite controller, but the Apex and Vader back button placement doesn't allow for that :/ I liked the Apex 4 in all other aspects but that was a dealbreaker for me
I have an elite 2 because of how perfect the paddles are but want the Apex 4 because of the polling rate. I’d look up “apex 4 paddles” there’s people online who sell paddles for them on Etsy. You have to take the controller apart but there’s guides online and the end result seems to be very similar to the elite 2 paddles.
Will these software functions be available for the Apex 4 controller? Recenlty got the Apex 4 from watching your last video about the flydigi controller! Grate stuff, keep it up!
Nice review, I received one today. Amazing quality controller for the price but my only gripe is the controller grip, I wish they were more rounded like the dual sense and I wonder if the grip tape would fix this?
the controller is absolutely great, but the position for the C and Z should be other, may be like wolverine v3 pro (close to the triggers) or scuf envision pro (on the left and right side of the controller), so you can remap those and use them in FPS game without release the right and left sticks, BUT FOR FIGHTING GAMES ARE GREAT....
Do you think if keeping the software open for like you said for the keyboard binds in warzone could potentially get flagged by anti cheat/shadow bans? Because obviosuly once you open it the first time it’s always open in the background/taskmanager?? Just got mine really impressed with it so far as a fast paced sweaty warzone player
Xbox shape hurts my hands after gaming. It's a case by case thing. Not everyone's hands are the same. I have large hands and find the dual sense edge to be the most comfortable. I'd rather a more feature filled controller in that styling.
@GFG2gifted the inward thumb sticks give me horrible thumb cramps and it's just the worst, at least that was my experience with the ps2 controller back in the day and I have no intention to switch back, especially when all the good controllers are in the xbox layout
@@n64slayer dual sense edge has the best DAC of any controller to date... You're clearly just biased and not looking at the real facts. The dual sense edge has heaps of features that eclipses all first party offerings by Microsoft. If you haven't ever experienced adapter triggers and the haptic feedback system you're just missing out. Playing ratchet and clank of the dual sense is and was a game changer to me and many others. No Xbox controller can do that... So if it's really just formfactor. At the end of the day, the Xbox controller layout hurts my hands... But don't dare say it's more feature packed and better. Because it's not.
What are your thoughts on the actual latency of the sticks and buttons as shown by John Punch and Gamepadla? Seems like standard ps5 controller has less latency when overclocked
This controller is insane. I’ve always been one to try and find the best controller that feels the best and has the smoothest thumbsticks. I’m upset at the fact that I’ve spent hundreds on scuf, aim, battle beaver over the last few years. And at the price point of $80 is even crazier to me. It’s the best feeling controller I’ve used to date, and I definitely see some reports on my account coming in the near future 😂.
I have an elite 2 and just bought this one. I’m kind of regretting it due to finding out the Vader 4 pro has about 15ms of stick latency which is a lot for a pro controller. We’ll see how it feels but this is the 1 major issue with this controller.
Super helpful video I've had a tab saved for the Apex waiting to pull the trigger mostly waiting to see what aim assist will look like in BO6 because if it's the same as it is now with omni movement added on top MnK (especially with the seemingly increased reg issues this season) is going to be a dead input type for Activision games
Just bought it. I love these controllers ever since I seen the apex 4 video you did, I have been using these controllers. No more $300 SCUFs that break in 2-3 months every time and have to be sent in for repair. Thanks for making these videos their awesome.
How does the tension in the joy sticks compare to a ps5 duel sense edge? Because I currently use a duel sense edge and really like the tension but wish it was a little bit stronger.
What did you have on your right thumbstick that made it raised up like that? I did find taller thumbsticks on Aliexpress for any of the Flydigi controllers which I've ordered but am curious what those were.
You miss the most important part is how do you get the keyboard buttons to work on COD, doesn't read some of those keys. Was anyone able to connect other than ABYX?
And the Flydigi Vader 4 pro sticks are a in house built, and have no recentering spring like other hall effects so basically it will never get Drift. Cat wait to get one, already have a Vader 3
Is there anyway I could get one of these to work on my PS5? Really impressed with this, the price is incredible, I'm currently using the PS Dualshock Edge & the new stick units are £30.
Hello, will I be able to play COD via steam with the vader 4 pro? As in all buttons are available, usable and remapping supported? Or do I have to do it over battlenet.
What is Warzone's policy on using the fligi software macro in game? Things like turning semi auto guns full auto are clearly cheating but what about things like binding buttons to auto navigate buystations with 1 button press.
Macros are against TOS no matter how they're achieved. Mice, keyboards, and other controller have been able to do this for a long time. Don't. They can tell.
@@ArtisWar Just to be clear, as long as we stick to just remapping (1 controler input to 1 controler/keyboard output) warzone won't have any issue? Been using the vader 3 pro and considering getting the vader 4 pro later on but I want to know if warzone will consider flidigi software as cheating software even if I don't use the marco features it has. Never used any macros at all and I stick to just remapping but since warzone lets keyboards have more features like dedicated reload and prone buttons it's a bit unclear from the terms of service if this is a "competitive advantage" or if it's completely fine. It would really suck for someone to get banned even without using macros simply because the anti-cheat detects flidigi as cheat software.
Gamepadtester doesnt want to see my Vader 4. Says connect a controller. Oh well, thought i'd check it out...but the controller is amazing, no issues. I thought it was great out of the box before I even installed the update fixing stick latency and outer deadzone! Very happy.
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UPDATE: As of 7:30p EST it seems that the pre-order status is unavailable on Amazon. Check back over the next few hours and days as I was told this was for PREORDER FIRST. Will update this post with more info when I have it.
Uploaded as soon as it became available for PREORDER on Amazon
Limited quantities of the AC edition (as I'm told by FlyDigi)!
I will also have a few to give away (both Apex and Vader models) at WSOW AND TWITCHCON!
@Artiswar how do I use my iems with this? Didn't see a headphones jack at bottom?
@@ArtisWar no update? Amazon still doesn't have
@@shaners1591 Emailed my contact at Flydigi. Will update soon.
@@caljones1383 u cant
@@KrunchTastic because i decided to argue with stupid. I’m gonna hide you from the channel after you see this :)
Love that Flydigi is always innovating in the controller industry, very refreshing, and at a great price.
Couldn't agree more!
Except for the single most important part the sticks? Not Hal effect is a non starter.
@@bighaus224 WDYM, it has hall effects already
@@PeytonRobinson did he not say "analog sticks" with "sensors" in the video? maybe I missed something?
@@PeytonRobinson Nvm. I didn't watch far enough. Fell asleep watching. Hal effect!
i was just thinking about selling my elite 2 and buy a new controller , im gonna buy this one , you conviced me , big fan here , keep up the good work brother
I bought an apex4 from your review and I’m loving it, thanks for all the great content
some sticks have broken
the stick are good yet?
@@huhnicho no issues
I feel so scammed, I went and bought a PS5 edge for PC 5 months back, and they have absolutly nothing so advanced. Thought there would be controler modules for replacement, but those are always out of stock. The Vader 4 Pro is so user oriented, they know exactly what gamers need for different genres of games. Hope they keep the focus on their products. I might have to treat myself for christmas again. Really nice review as well.
the sticks are better on the edge for shooters, but thats it.
@@maxvader1000 yep. But Flydigi is the clear winner with native support to work with windows, comes with 1000 hz polling rate without haveing to use external software, and I am sure with the tension adjustable stick, most would find their preferred tension. And It comes at half the cost of an edge controller, whose replacement controller modules are going for the price of a Gamesir controller.
@@anandj5453 for me the Vader 4 Pro is a 1/3 of the price ($100 vs $300 in my currency), it's not even a contest at that point.
I thought it couldn't get better than the Vader3. I was wrong. The 4 is MAGNIFICENT.
Mannnn i had this controller for about two weeks and didn’t notice anything about these settings good video 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Glad to hear it
Got the controller in about a week ago and this is genuinely the best controller I’ve ever used. Was worried about the rear button placement but they are placed in the perfect position. It’s reminds me of a better version of scufs rear buttons.
Would be an instant buy for me if it was a ps5 layout. Also the position of back buttons aren't my favorite, but to each their own!
I’ve never used an Xbox layout until I switched to this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it’s more comfortable. My scuf reflex fps and those paddle placements actually feel weird to me now. I’ll never buy another scuf again. You’re selling if those are your reasons for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 I tried the apex 4, and I really hated the big gap in between the back buttons. Coming from a scuff reflex, I just love how the back paddles are connected and I don’t actually have to shift my middle fingers in order to press them.
@@Dangerrd Yeah I didn’t like them at first but you get used to them. The grip tape for the paddles is a must otherwise they were too slick and clunky to use. Love them now and haven’t touched my scuf since
Man hit us with that rectangularity 😂
Pre ordering mine can’t wait to get it !
Anyone got an EU amazing link ?
@@mcgameing1 Ordered mine from GadgetHyper. Had no problems and delivery was very quick
was expecting like 200$ price but I am really impressed! Solid Sticks!
I’ve had this controller for a couple of weeks now, won’t go back to any other controller. Buy the stick on grip tape and it feels better than any other controller I’ve used (just about been through them all at this point). 0 0 dead zone feels amazing too
hey do you prefer apex 4 or vader 4?
Which grip tape should I buy for the Vader 4 Pro?
@@shaners1591 personally i prefer the vader 4 pro for fps games. the haptic triggers are something I can live without on the Apex 4 and I dont love the screen either.
Ty 4 video, bro
Bought it from Ali less then 40$ in Russia, can’t wait to get it
As an owner of both controllers as well as many other Pro controllers I wholeheartedly agree the vader 4 Pro takes it to a new level. It's like my secret weapon in war zone.
hey do you prefer apex 4 or vader 4?
@@shaners1591 vader 4
what "pro" controllers do you have if you dont mind me asking? ive been looking into getting a Nagashock or battle beaver but this might add another option to the list, just not a fan of Xbox stick placement.
@@M1N3RDOM i have had a cinch, scufs, both version of the xbox elite, gamesir g7 se, apex 4 , vader 4 and a ds edge
Cabe you dolphin dive and slide cancel in different paddles ?
good content as usual! I got my 4 PRO today, first plunder game I got 21 kills and was accused of hacking by team of 4 that me and my buddy were farming. The tension rings are awesome!
4pro + Art sound is the shit! 👏🏻
just bought it :) i can't wait !! ill have it just in time for BO6 early acces :D !! thank you great content !!
Very good and detailed review. Special thanks from John Punch for the link to gamepadla in the description.
I have the Vader for 2 months and love it thanks for sharing
Just got mine! thanks for the review and going over the options!
This company needs to make a PS4 style controller PLEASE 🥺
For real thats the only thing keeping me from switching from the envision pro
@@fanatik3287 i was on a ps layout forever and switching was pretty easy, the aim stick is still in the same spot
@@fanatik3287im currently using the envision pro but I just bought the vader 4. My envision pro cant be overclocked, my back paddle broke after 2 months and now my Right trigger stopped working and the icue software has been a nightmare for me. Hopefully your experience has been better.
I had to go buy a new ps4 roller and connect it to my PlayStation paddles because these companies love making the left analog stick like the Xbox 😂
We need some ps4 roller love with paddles and clickynessssss
Gulikit is making a ps style controller
Just came in an hour ago works amazingly with the xbox and the goku usb adapter the difference between this and the elite 2 is crazyy this one is way more responsive and in my opinion way better in every way!
using the goku with this controller on the xbox is it easy to set-up just switch both to Bluetooth and go ? and do u find any latency issues
@@haydenwilson6852 you have to connect the goku with a normal xbox controller set the vader 4 pro on bluetooth and thats it no latency at all ive been cooking people in warzone like never before lol;
I was waiting for August 10. This is an awesome surprise!
Finally, someone who understands competitive FPS games reviews these controllers.
W vid, Art. Easily of the the most helpful creators in the CoD space right now.
Holy, what a controller. Congrats the the Xbox layout lovers. If only it was PS layout... this would be the endgame controller...
Yep wtf are they thinking ima have to get the envision I guess I was hoping they'd make a ps layout
I've never used an Xbox layout until I tried this. Instantly was used to it and if anything it's more comfortable.
My scuf reflex fps actually feels weird to me now and no no longer gets used. You're selling if that’s your only reason for not trying it especially for $80
@@killshot3331 see I’m the exact opposite. I used the Xbox layout for years, then switched to the PS5 scuf. Now I can’t go back because I love the PS layout so much better. I use the Apex 4 for almost 3 weeks, played awful with it back to back days, switched back to my PS5 scuf, and immediately went on an eight game win streak on COD MP ranked with a 1.35 KD. I can’t say it was for sure the controller but it just feels so much better
@Teddward same i got the instinct pro and then got a PC so wanted to try the ps and got the impact fps and then the reflex fps and can't go back honestly I love the ps4 layout better but def couldn't go back to xbox I tried and hated it idk it just feels to off for me
@@Teddward Lol yeah it’s crazy how that works. It’s definitely placebo effect because you have the skill but you should obviously use what feels most comfortable to you. My comment is towards the people knocking it before they tried it which I now know you have. Still interesting either way
I love the fact that you go in depth with all the settings and features and explain everything thoroughly you basically sold one of these to me lol
can you please do a video on the Razer Wolverine V3 pro if you get your hands on it. It's new and it looks interesting since it works on xbox as well
much love ❤
Hey Art love the content as always. Definitely going to order this soon, but what thumbstick extender/grip are you using in the video? Currently on a series 2 controller and it has an extended thumbstick so I'll need to get something for the Vader and yours looks nice and comfortable too.
8:52 this statement is completely false due to the fact that shooter games automatically use a software like the space 3.0 app that makes the path of the joystick or circularity a perfect 0. If you know anything about audio its basically a raw input and when it reaches the game it uses a "target curve" to change the input for a better experience. Please do a little more research before doing these reviews as many people see them and when even the slightest misconception becomes apparent to a large audience they wont know any better because they indeed believe everything they see on the internet...
Hi ArtisWar, i bought this controller. I used to play CoD on MnK all the time, but I recently switched to controller. It will take a long time before i get comfortable with it though. First game i played with the Vader 4 pro i dropped 45 kills. :)
Can you describe a simple test to feel the effects of circularity in game? I see the test you did, and it's impressive, I'm just having a hard time distinguishing this setting on with any other pro controller.
Great work and keep it up, AIW!
The only software changes I noticed is that the controller is 10x more buggy than the apex 4. The top 2 rear buttons dont work 90% of the time, joysticks input random values and drift, the C and Z only work 90% of the time too. Not to mention, where are the rubber grips? I mean seriously, if $40-60 come with rubber grips and similar specs, this $80 controller very well should do the same...
I'm really happy with this controller. I was used to the Xbox Elite Series 2. For me the Vader 4 Pro checks off a lot of things that I wished the Elite 2 had. Only thing I prefered on the Elite 2 are the padels.
Damn bro I just ordered one of these like 3 days ago after I saw this video today, gonna cancel my order purely to support your channel and add the insurance its a no brainer.
Have you tried the gulikit King Kong 3?
The more expensive Apex 4 should get the new joystick settings aswell, if it is not hardware limitated
I'm told this feature will be added to the Apex in the future with a software update but for now, the circularity/rectangularity option is only on the Vader 4 Pro
@ArtisWar man I hope so bought the apex 4 before seeing this video and was disappointed to not see any of these settings
saw this video yesterday and decided that since i needed a new controller anyway i might as well give this company another shot as i ended up buying the vader 3 and absolutely hated it as it was non functional and ended up returning it im hoping the vader 4 works as well as youve described cause you made it sound like a really nice option for controller users
Will Flydigi be updating Apex 4 software to have the circular form for sticks?
And 1000% agree that the front extra buttons should be on the sides like the Scuf Envision. Would make this an endgame controller.
Man I hope the apex 4 gets this setting being there most expensive controller
I'm afraid this is something they can't do, otherwise they have already updated it. I have Apex 4 and it's a bummer that we can't have the Vadder 4 functionalities
Just bought the Apex 4 and love it but should I have got this one 🙈
I have had the Apex 4 for about 5 months now, still love it and is easily best controller I have ever used. However, would recommend the Vader 4 purely for the price to feature ratio, $80 is insane for what you are getting.
Thumbs up for everything except for the position of the back paddle buttons. I like the standard 4 paddle button positions.
Thanks Art! When you start hiring a team I will be first in line!
Great Review and Video 🙂 i love my vader 4 pro...you have a new subscribeer for sure 👍
Great video! Do you mind sharing what kontrolfreek you had attached in this video? Never seen that one before
I think he has the talon grip tape on top of the kf
Exactly bro, when u play fps game u gonna need soft left stick and hard right stick, i have to use foam ring to do it on my controllers but it make the stick cant go max range, it's quiet ok coz i alway play with verry high sensi but with this stick, u dont need foam ring anymore and becoz u can go max range on right stick, u have more options for right stick sensi !
Hey there ART. Have you notice any joystick issues with your Vader 4 Pro? On the software end everything looks fine, but with BO6, the in game experience has been on and off with the joystick accuracy. Seems to loose its accuracy and almost like its bouncing around while ADS. And yes, I've tried messing with the debounce and calibration, just can't get to function properly lately. Been using it for almost 3 months, could it just be with B06? I've gone back to my PS5 controller. BTW, great video review on the controller!
aww damn that sucks to hear after i just bought this a few hours ago to try to out in warzone. all the reviews made this out to be the best gamepad for shooters. is the issue with the sticks so bad that it makes the game unplayable?
@@musek5048 im hoping its just a BO6 thing, or a simple software or game update. the Hall effect centering accuracy been on and off between games. but give it a try, im sure you'll enjoy the vader 4 pro.
@@y3eMAN just got mine in today and so far i'm loving it. the sticks feel great and i already feel and improvement in my aiming from just using the stick dials. there was an update for the dongle and controller so maybe that could be causing an issue for some. very impressed with it for now, the real test will be longevity, i've already had to replace two xbox controllers because they got really bad drift after a couple months of use which is why i looked into more premium gamepads like this one.
@@musek5048 that's wonderful to hear! I've gone through 2 xbox Elites, and 2 ps5 dual sense controllers also, and really the big reason of this purchase. Can't wait to get mines back up and running. Thanks!
Art, I care a lot about your opinion. I believe it would be a good idea to do a comparison between the 8Bitdo Ultimate controller and the one you mentioned here. I currently use the 8Bitdo and I haven’t had any issues for about 2 years now. Great video btw
are those additional settings on the joysticks available for the apex 4? i never noticed it in the software.
Really love the APEX 4, but looking forward to receiving the Vader 4 pro for the hard trigger stops, the extra buttons, and better functionality. I just wish they would have used the same grip material as the Apex 4, and I was fine paying the higher price for the better materials, I also wish they would have their own extra sticks like the Xbox Elite controllers, even if it's an add on purchase. I like the kontrol freaks but would prefer a first party solution. Definitely love that the tension is now adjust on demand instead of the tool and popping off the top half of the case.
I purchased and tried to use the Apex 4 controller you recommended but I could not get over the back button placement. I can easily use all 4 back paddles using different fingers for each on Xbox's Elite controller, but the Apex and Vader back button placement doesn't allow for that :/ I liked the Apex 4 in all other aspects but that was a dealbreaker for me
There are some 3d printables mods online some for free, look for it tell me if it works
I have an elite 2 because of how perfect the paddles are but want the Apex 4 because of the polling rate. I’d look up “apex 4 paddles” there’s people online who sell paddles for them on Etsy. You have to take the controller apart but there’s guides online and the end result seems to be very similar to the elite 2 paddles.
Will these software functions be available for the Apex 4 controller?
Recenlty got the Apex 4 from watching your last video about the flydigi controller! Grate stuff, keep it up!
Wondering this too…
ps4 ps5 variant plz thats all i want for Christmas.
Oohweee mine comes tomorrow!
Nice review, I received one today. Amazing quality controller for the price but my only gripe is the controller grip, I wish they were more rounded like the dual sense and I wonder if the grip tape would fix this?
Art, great video! Can you drop a link to the Control Freaks you are using?
price definitely going up after hype
the controller is absolutely great, but the position for the C and Z should be other, may be like wolverine v3 pro (close to the triggers) or scuf envision pro (on the left and right side of the controller), so you can remap those and use them in FPS game without release the right and left sticks, BUT FOR FIGHTING GAMES ARE GREAT....
Just received my Assassins Creed edition! Let's gooooo
Thanks for the vid fam
That tension control is way better
looks nice! doesnt look super simplistic like they do now. i like the way they did the bumpers and triggers
Could we get a best console controller video? Elite Series 2 feels horrible compared to the Dualsense Edge but I have to play on XBOX now.
The best roller ive ever used. way better than my bs custom scuff like for like 400
been waiting for this review...
I got mine for £65 from Ali express, £10 of that was postage & it came within a week😎
Do you think if keeping the software open for like you said for the keyboard binds in warzone could potentially get flagged by anti cheat/shadow bans? Because obviosuly once you open it the first time it’s always open in the background/taskmanager?? Just got mine really impressed with it so far as a fast paced sweaty warzone player
I always thought the perfect controller for me was a controller with Xbox Shape/Ergonomics and PS tech. This is that and more
Xbox shape hurts my hands after gaming. It's a case by case thing. Not everyone's hands are the same. I have large hands and find the dual sense edge to be the most comfortable. I'd rather a more feature filled controller in that styling.
@GFG2gifted the inward thumb sticks give me horrible thumb cramps and it's just the worst, at least that was my experience with the ps2 controller back in the day and I have no intention to switch back, especially when all the good controllers are in the xbox layout
@@n64slayer dual sense edge has the best DAC of any controller to date... You're clearly just biased and not looking at the real facts. The dual sense edge has heaps of features that eclipses all first party offerings by Microsoft. If you haven't ever experienced adapter triggers and the haptic feedback system you're just missing out. Playing ratchet and clank of the dual sense is and was a game changer to me and many others. No Xbox controller can do that... So if it's really just formfactor. At the end of the day, the Xbox controller layout hurts my hands... But don't dare say it's more feature packed and better. Because it's not.
@@GFG2gifted what does an audio dac have to do with a controller 💀
@@GFG2giftedratchet and clank 💀
What are your thoughts on the actual latency of the sticks and buttons as shown by John Punch and Gamepadla? Seems like standard ps5 controller has less latency when overclocked
@ 14:00 WHAT THUMBSTICK GRIP IS THAT? I need!!!
Someone please come through! I need these lol
Sameee
Apparently the LiveZone 3d Printed Snap On topper. ArtisWar commented on the same question like a 150 comments below this one.
Someone help me out! Haha. I found one on Etsy that looks similar I think. Where do you get these thumbstick grips?? @artiswar
So i have a apex 4.....i can get a vader 4 for about £60 ($75) is it worth dropping the money...is it that much of an upgrade from a apex 4?
Dang I just bought the apex but I wish I would have waited for the Vader for the mouse switch triggers
C and Z up top, like Razer has, for pinging would be HUGE.
This controller is insane. I’ve always been one to try and find the best controller that feels the best and has the smoothest thumbsticks. I’m upset at the fact that I’ve spent hundreds on scuf, aim, battle beaver over the last few years. And at the price point of $80 is even crazier to me. It’s the best feeling controller I’ve used to date, and I definitely see some reports on my account coming in the near future 😂.
Dude I spent about 4hrs today searching for the perfect remote to buy. I’m excited for this thing to come in the next few werks
The most important part for FPS games in my opinion: A gyroscope.
I have an elite 2 and just bought this one. I’m kind of regretting it due to finding out the Vader 4 pro has about 15ms of stick latency which is a lot for a pro controller. We’ll see how it feels but this is the 1 major issue with this controller.
apex 4 or vader 4? I need to buy one of them soon
If you found the answer, you'll warn us
@@Hery_YT huh?
Great videos man 😂
I got my Vader 4 Pro for 43€ / $47 on aliexpress. Can't complain.
You have a link?
Perfect video Art 🔥🔥
Super helpful video I've had a tab saved for the Apex waiting to pull the trigger mostly waiting to see what aim assist will look like in BO6 because if it's the same as it is now with omni movement added on top MnK (especially with the seemingly increased reg issues this season) is going to be a dead input type for Activision games
Just bought it. I love these controllers ever since I seen the apex 4 video you did, I have been using these controllers. No more $300 SCUFs that break in 2-3 months every time and have to be sent in for repair. Thanks for making these videos their awesome.
How does the tension in the joy sticks compare to a ps5 duel sense edge? Because I currently use a duel sense edge and really like the tension but wish it was a little bit stronger.
Wish they would give us paddle options like the elite series. These back buttons simply don’t work for me with the way I hold my controller
What did you have on your right thumbstick that made it raised up like that? I did find taller thumbsticks on Aliexpress for any of the Flydigi controllers which I've ordered but am curious what those were.
You miss the most important part is how do you get the keyboard buttons to work on COD, doesn't read some of those keys. Was anyone able to connect other than ABYX?
And the Flydigi Vader 4 pro sticks are a in house built, and have no recentering spring like other hall effects so basically it will never get Drift. Cat wait to get one, already have a Vader 3
If only this were available for Xbox.
What did you put your deadzones to in COD, ive been using zero but thinking of moving to 3?
i just wish they would make the controller in Playstation button layout
Is there anyway I could get one of these to work on my PS5? Really impressed with this, the price is incredible, I'm currently using the PS Dualshock Edge & the new stick units are £30.
I ordered mine today, I'm curious !!! I'm using now, the Xbox elite series controller!!! So hope this one is better !!!
Hello, will I be able to play COD via steam with the vader 4 pro? As in all buttons are available, usable and remapping supported? Or do I have to do it over battlenet.
Do any of the flydigi controller have button sequence mapping or are they just single button mapping?
And here's me still really happy with my Gamesir g7 Se 😂
Plus it's Xbox compatible
Do you recommend me plugging my kiwi orchestra lites to my a40 mixamp or my motherboard
What is Warzone's policy on using the fligi software macro in game? Things like turning semi auto guns full auto are clearly cheating but what about things like binding buttons to auto navigate buystations with 1 button press.
Macros are against TOS no matter how they're achieved. Mice, keyboards, and other controller have been able to do this for a long time.
Don't. They can tell.
@@ArtisWar Just to be clear, as long as we stick to just remapping (1 controler input to 1 controler/keyboard output) warzone won't have any issue? Been using the vader 3 pro and considering getting the vader 4 pro later on but I want to know if warzone will consider flidigi software as cheating software even if I don't use the marco features it has. Never used any macros at all and I stick to just remapping but since warzone lets keyboards have more features like dedicated reload and prone buttons it's a bit unclear from the terms of service if this is a "competitive advantage" or if it's completely fine. It would really suck for someone to get banned even without using macros simply because the anti-cheat detects flidigi as cheat software.
@@l_ECL1PSE_l no issue with 3 month of playing on flydigi controller, 4 months of envision play no issues. With keyboard binds.
Best controller I’ve ever owned! Multiple Elite 2’s and a Stealth Ultra.
Gamepadtester doesnt want to see my Vader 4. Says connect a controller. Oh well, thought i'd check it out...but the controller is amazing, no issues. I thought it was great out of the box before I even installed the update fixing stick latency and outer deadzone! Very happy.
wait these aren't hall triggers? would these triggers not last as long as the sticks?
The Vader is BACK IN STOCK on Amazon!
When they design a new controller like that, they should think about making them for both PS5 style and Xbox style.
damn they kept thesame button setup for the back, unfortunate