Well, I have a Vypyr 30 and I really like it. I can play my favourite tones with my Peavey, but the 15 version in this video sounds totally different... I'm almost sure it's because he used way too much Pre Gain. If you see carefully, that gain was allways on the highest level, and this makes a dirty sound on the Peavey, which you'll only use while playing thrash metal, maybe. Set it on 5.5/7, it will sound clearer and you will see a huge difference!
One last thing: don't let the fact that the volume is turned up higher on the Peavy trick you. You can get the identical sound on the Fender, the volume is set to the preset level which is easily changed by turning up the volume then clicking the red flashing "save" button.
I have both the Peavey Vypyr 30 and the Mustang 3 V-2 and they both have their place in my collection. I like them both equally for the difference in sounds...
The fender's different amp models actually do sound like different amps (albeit modeled, I got the impression that I was hearing different amplifier sounds) The Peavey, to me, really just sounded like the same amp EQ'd differently for each amp setting (meaning, I could simply set the EQ on my Peavey 6505 differently, and make it sound like each of those different amp models on the peavey vypyr, but I couldn't imitate the sounds on the fender mustang with my single peavey 6505, which I shouldn't be able to considering it's a tube amp with a single function of playing metal, and these are modeling amps). The Peavey probably had a more solid metal sound (though it was a little too compressed and digitized for my taste, it was at least higher gain), I think considering the function of these amps is to serve as low cost modeling amps, I think the fender does a much better job of that, based on this video. I also personally thought it sounded better, had a more authentic tube amp sound (more of an overdrive sound instead of pure sharp distortion), less digitized, but that was my personal opinion, that's admittedly more an issue of personal taste. Still, even taking personal preference out of the equation, I think the fender served the purpose of a modeling amp more effectively than the less dynamic Peavey.
Let's be honest. This wasn't a very good demo of two amps. There was no justice done to either of them. What you should do when you go and try an amp is set it to how YOU would set it and then in this case play with the amp models. Take the fender for example, the v.2 has more than 8 amps. It has more like 12-16. And the USB connectivity would help for both amps, that's why it comes with it.
I currently own the Mustang and previously owned the Peavey. I personally prefer the Fender. For me the Mustang sounds better. It also comes with Fuse software for further customization to the sounds and the ability to add additional presets and backing tracks. In addition to all of that you also get free IKmultimedia Fender Amplitude...for a small at home practice amp this stuff matters to me. On the other hand the Peavy has a Bass simulator which is kinda cool and a few extras including software which for me in comparison was short on features.
Simple verdict: For metal the Peavey wins, for Classic rock and the blues, the Fender wins. Honestly though in the $99 price range, get a used Peavey Bandit. It'll smoke either fo these amps and at better volumes.
@@joelmiddaugh8229 Yeah actually it's very easy. And not one of the current generation made in China models either. Peavey USA Bandits. I see two on my local craigslist right now asking for less than 200.
Lemme help you guys out . . . singer / songwriter here, I'm 37 yrs old started playing at age 3. I just done went to guitar center today, and got to check out both these amps, and from what I heard if you want lots of capability such as rigging your bass, or acoustic into this amp, and if u like effects galore then the peavey is the amp for you, but if you're willing to sacrifice some of the effects and capability's for a nice clear clean sound on both clean channel & distortion the Mustang is for you . . . Either way to say which amp is better is subjective . . . It all comes down to personal preference you the player. My best suggestion for anyone is to go check em out. . . Hope this helps you all, may GOD bless !!!
Thank you so much for posting this video comparison between these two as I am currently looking at both amps as a possibility for me. Although the Vypyr stood out in this video for high gain and punchiness, the Mustang seemed more down my alley and more or less what I am looking for. Both sound great for what they are through! Keep on Rocking!!!
The Vypyr fits my needs. It has a "Brit Amp" Mode, (Marshall). It also has the Van Halen, 6150 Replica amp, plus tube screamer and an excellent clean channel.
Thank you for a great overview of the differences between the two. It is very helpful compared to viewing the specs on a retailer's site. You've done the homework for us, and it's appreciated.
the vypyr is the best ss modeling combo out right now imo. i played a 75 watt version when it first came out and even after playing through a 6505+ paired with v30's for over a year prior to that, i was still blown away by the vypyr with both it's clean and high gain channels as well as its effects and bought it the same day. for those of you who thinks it sounds bad i recommend you try it for yourself and if you can dial in an amp even somewhat decent you'll be impressed with it.
Yep, killer amps, the Mustangs, before they put out the Mustang G3 that is, then they went south, but I have a Mustang 3 V2, and it's as dynamic as a tube-amp, and serves all kind of guitarists, from starter to pro
Awesome demo/comparison @Imsjr I am glad you still inform (us) viewers of the amps features and specs, most reviewers on TH-cam dont give the gears facts, like you do.
I had a Mustang I v2 for about 3.5 years. It did its job fine, I managed to get some useable tones from it. But a lot of the presets were gimmicky, and never got used - I found the same to be true about the Fender Fuse software. I very quickly outgrew the amp and was looking for something different for some time. My biggest complaint about the Mustang I was the way it felt to play. Didn't feel at all organic under the fingers. But as a beginner amp and an "intro" to electric guitar, it is more than adequate. Its cheap enough that you won't feel too bad about replacing it as you develop into a more intermediate guitarist after 1-3 years.
Thanks, that was a great no nonsense review. My preference was the Mustang. I can see where Peavey might have more draw for the metal guys but for blues and basic rock. I like the Mustang.
You get a lot of practice amp these days for a hundred bucks - the price of a cpl of no-name 6L6 valves :-). Next time what I wish you'd do is pick one model both amps attempt - ex the Boogie - and very carefully A/B one to the other - exact same short lick - hit B - repeat. But keep up the good work Mr TK - happy new year and here is to a great and prosperous 2016!!
I don't need pedals with mine, The secret is first, turn off the cabinet modeling, and the Bias (not like tube bias) set to the left makes the pre-amp the gain stage, and the right side gives the "power tube" sound. I have the IV, and it doesn't respond well to pedals in the front end, but the effects loop works great. I've been able to model my Old Marshall 2204, a Blackstar series one, an Orange, an Engl, and even a great "Brown Sound".
I liked both of them, but I think for certain that the Vypyr blew away the Mustang when it came to hard-rock and metal sounds. However with that said, the Mustang was clearly superior on the low-gain classic rock and blues sounds. It should also be noted that Peavey doesn't support the USB drivers for the Vypyr anymore and unfortunately the USB system is very very wonky. I just had to deal with this yesterday helping a friend out who has this amp and who was trying to use it with Vegas Video, Guitar Rig 5 and Amplitude. So buyer beware.
Both under $110, might pick these up for the hell of it. I won't use them too much but if a friend comes over it'd be cool to have something for them to play on.
As a Peavey dealer. I can honestly tell you I am partial to their product. Yet I could not see where the Fender sounded horrible like I have read from others. For it's price range, it sounded fine for someone to practice with it. The Peavey has the advantage on this one after watching his review. By the way. My father grew up in Brooklyn, NY and I caught you pronounce the word Idea as Ideer. So I gotta ask, are you from NY because I have only heard New Yorkers like my father say that. Check out the Peavey Vypyr VIP. I was impressed when listening to it at Peavey headquarters.
i remember trying out modeling amps in Dawsons. i tried a vypyr, a mustang, a line6 spider and the Vox VT. judging entirely on the sound the Vox won hands down, its the most expensive by a tiny margin but its well worth it!
I own the Mustang 1 v2 and the Peavey Vyper1 and, while I originally liked the Fender better because it's easier to master right out of the box and has a couple of nice settings. But with time (and study of the manual), I have come to strongly prefer the Peavey. Why? First, the Peavey can apply an acoustic sound to my electric that sounds very cool and legit. Second, I can apply clean, crunchy and heavily distorted to every amp type with the Peavey AND then apply more or less overdrive to each AND a tube screamer - all of which provides a lot of dexterity. Delay and Reverb can be applied with custom settings to each of the 16 customizable presets. Also, the Peavey had a midrange control while Fender has just bass and treble. Otherwise the "stomp" effects are similar for each, Fender is a bit smaller in stature. Overall, the Peavey has more options for settings and sound textures but you WILL have to read the manual carefully to appreciate it. I guess the Tone King likes heavy metal because he has the gain pretty much max'd out on every Peavey setting. I play blues and so you can cut all that way back and get more of a classic rock flavor if you like :-)
@rjake61- you are right. In Peavey each model sounded the same. Same voicing - only change in gain and post EQ mids. Mustang on the other hand has varied sounds ...
I ve been playing guitar over 50 years and occasional do open mics,so I don't wanna move my half stack anymore to include future live paid gigs .I demoed a Vypyr and was sold immediately, its an incredible amp with fantastic effects and not too heavy in weight, I had many onlookers when I went to the local guitar center here in Florida. They were impressed and do was I knowing, no more carting around foot pedal boxes or rack mounts.Its quite sufficient for any advanced guitarist,who gets right down to business instead of fidgeting with noise and warm-ups
From my experience I have owned both, in my opinion the Mustang sounds great for cleans, and the Vyper sounds great for high gain. The Mustang will do the overdrive sound well too. The Vypes all high gain but does it well. For my personal taste I like the Mustang, esp the 65 Twin tone.
I tried the Mustang 2 - 40w and the Vypyr 30w. The tones shown here are definitely more geared towards metal, whereas I was more interested in clean, blues and classic rock tones. I actually found most of the tones I was looking for on both amps, although it took a bit of time. The Vypyr doesn't just do thrash metal, unless you want it to, it does some bright sparkly cleans on the green channel which I thought compared very well to the Mustang. The mustang had some nice emulations of vintage Fender amps (Clean, blues & classic rock) but were pretty much programmed in (using FUSE from a computer) so would need adjusting if you were gigging with it to suit the surrounding acoustics. I found the Vypyr easy to adjust & EQ on the fly just by tweaking I few knobs. The Vypyr also took my favourite pedals well when set clean / Green channel, the Mustang didn't entirely like my pedals. Maybe you won't want to use any pedals and just the onboard amps / effects which aren't too terrible, but I just know that I really would want at least a decent drive pedal? Both amps could be useful to us guys that are not looking for thrash metal but it depends on whether you would like an easy to use control panel (Vypyr) or rely on programmed tones (Mustang) as good as they are! As to which is best: my advice would be to try both out but don't forget to consider the Mustang 2 vs Vypyr 30 or later VIP models.
The Fender Champion 20w or 40w amp models are a reasonable alternative if you want some easy to use amp modelling, plus a few basic effects. Probably not the best choice for metal, without using pedals, though!
Great video Tom King thanks again thanks for taking the time to make it thank you very much for posting it the TV looks ridiculous the Mustang sounds great place great the computer interface is really nice on that one Thunder did a damn good job on the Mustang series I think I have two of them the Code up very well they sound very good invest in a footswitch with the tuner option like a $40 upgrade but it's well worth i thanks again Tone King people keep the videos coming it's really nice to have someone like yourself out there
Good job talking thank you your videos always come out pretty well thanks for taking your time making it I think you did a pretty fair comparison however the TV looks terrible the Fender Mustang is a great little amplifier for a hundred bucks I have had one for almost 7 years that would up very well Fender did an excellent job on the Mustang series
Hey Tone King, thanks for the shootout. I would of preferred an a/b of identical models, but that's cool. I am just coming into this comparison of these types of amps and actually the search for the Peavey Vypyr VIP III has lead me here. I know both amps have probably came a long way since this video. Just in looks the old Vypyr just reminds of something Batman would play. Throws me off of it a bit. The VIP, not so much. In any case, the VIP has attracted me because of being able to play several instruments and I play them all. Just wondering what your thoughts on how the VIP III would stand up in a live situation? When I say live, I am talking small bar & grill's where 100 watt heads are just far too much. These new micro tube head with like 20 watts would do far better in these places. I share duties of playing electric guitar, bass and acoustic and the VIP III, seems like the ticket.
Many thanks for the detailed review and the extra information on your page.Now I have both of them at home and can compare myself. The controls of the Peavey are logical and easy to use, I hate the controls of the mustang. You never know, what settings you are in when not connected to a PC. I also dislike the missing mid tones knob on the mustang, the cheaper Peavey has one. From the sound, I think the Mustang (I have the V2) sounds a bit muffled in comparison, the Peavey sounds more open. But at high gain, the Peavey sound gets more undifferentiated than the Mustang. And the Mustang amp sims sound more different, the Peavey simulations sometimes just seem to differ in the level of gain. I am not really satisfied with both of them, maybe I try the Line6 next.
listening to his reviews are hard because he hits the same power chords every time. But I love what he is doing, helping us hear the amp sounds. I agree with another comment below that he could hire or find a volunteer you wants exposure on youtube who is musical rather than simply listening at guitar and amp tone with power chords and some occasional leads.
Download the Manual for the Peavey Vypyr, it explains what voicings the amp was modeled in, because the tone controls are dynamic not static, they affect each other and the amps according to the model and channel you set, sometimes they make huge changes in sound, sometimes not.
+Erduk I bought the mustang when it first came out, The best home use amp ever in my opinion. You will not be dissapointed with your purchase it is the best modelling amp out there..period :)
Louie, I like you and your channel. I must tell you that there are a lot of people who want to hear a more complete spectrum of sounds that the amps can make. People have musical interests that change over the years. Many people who might move to blues or jazz or standards as they get older, they need to know what the amp sounds like clean or with light OD. I thought I'd die before I got old but here I am at49. Been a bassist and played my first paying club gig 35 years ago. Clean tones please
The AMBER on the Mustang can only be saved online. It's a whole different world man. Plug in with a standard USB cord and create an account. Then you'll have access to a 2 channel studio there and Tons of PRO Guitarists presets along with other Mustang players that saved their presets online. Fun to scroll through and find ones you dig without having to set them yourself. You can use the Amber just like the Red and Green. You just can't save them offline like the Red and Green.
I had the Vypyr 30 and liked it. Sold it to get the Vypyr tube 60. Big problems, to the shop and back. Now out of warranty there is a short somewhere and lose volume at random. Have to smack it on top to get it back! I bet they discontinued it due to glitches like that. My main amp is a Peavey Classic 30 tube amp with Speaker upgrade.... it's great. On here I agree with others the Fender sounds more natural and I vote for it.
I own a Mustang 1 and love it, I think the amp models sound like the amps they are modeling, the Peavey however sounded all the same, no real difference in the sound on each amp model, and it did not sound like the amps it was suppose to be modeling. Peavey is more for Metal heads, Fender is more for Blues and Rock. I prefer the Fender.
I agree, the difference between the Peavy amps seemed to be less. They each sounded very similar and somewhat tinny. Plus, be sure to check out the youtube videos about the Fender software it comes with where you can add effects boxes and set each amp using an image of each original amp's controls on the screen. This video made up my mind to go with the Mustang 1.
VirtualLife You're kidding right...? To my ears, the Vypyr not only looks like a toy, but also sounds like it... I don't have the Mustang one, but I have the Mustang III v2, and that blows every model amp, and even many tube-amps, out of the water... Best gear-purchase i've ever done...
These little practice amps have come a long way since I bought my Fender Bullet Reverb. I was happy with a built-in reverb back then, now they have built-in amp modelling. I'm partial to the variety on the Fender. The peavy sounds like it's tailored exclusively to metal players.
Best way to compare is to go to a shop and play both. However here is my opinion ( I love finding that perfect tone of a clean distortion.) Peavey: +A lot of various options +A loud amp +Feels very sturdy. -Tho it has a lot of options, they seem to be more for 'quantity' over quality. -The amp just has a very harsh 'scrape' even on a clean setting. -So many buttons, makes it feel very complicated. Fender: + Each setting sounds good even right out of the box. + The distortion caught my eye and made me buy the amp, seriously this thing has such a good distortion. +The layout is less complicated and yet I think it does a better job at each setting. -Not as loud as the Peavey -Some of the sounds tend to be over whelming and when you go to make it less it still seems like a lot, especially when you have a chorus/reverb on at the same time. If I were you, I'd buy the Fender. I thought a marshal would of been the best but this little amp does a great job, especially if your recording.
TheActualKid I got the fender mustang 1 v2. I really like it, has really good clean and distorted sounds, also u can import more amp models from fender fuse, I got a vox ac30 sound from there and I play a lot of nirvanna with it
I have a Fender Mustang III and it is great. Was thinking about the Peavey Vypyr 3, but the Peavey was more expensive with the addition of the Sanpera II foot switch. Over $500.00. My Mustang II was $329.00 and $100.00 for the 4 button foot switch. (The 2 button comes with the amp) You can use Both the 2 and 4 button foot switch at the same time in the Mustang III amp. For my money, I choose the Mustang III and I am very happy with it. For playing live, I have the Fender EVH 2-12, 50 watt 5150 and that amp rocks.
I own both. I paid $99 for each one brand new at Guitar Center. They are very close in both sound quality and features. The nice thing about the Vypyr is the interface is WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) and can be dialed in very quickly and accurately. The mustang is more of a plug it in and let 'er rip kinda deal. As far as the number of amp models and effects, you will find yourself using just a few of each choice because the others don't sound very good, and that's for both. Enjoy!
glad to see this comparison. I've seen a lot of both of these amps come up for sale and wanted a better solid-state practice amp than my Marshall mg15cfr. I like the sound of the Mustang, suits my style!! good stuff dude.
The Peavey's distortion sounds heavier and the Fender has a nice clean sound. I like how you can really hear a difference between amp models on the Peavey.
Cheap being the key word. A Metropolitan Tone king, a Matchless, or if you hit the lotto, a Dumble. But you couldn't be more correct, for the money, the clean headroom and Glassy tube sound of the old Blackfaces or even a Twin cannot be beaten. As for solid state, a Roland Jazz Chorus is still tops for cleans IMHO..
You can actually get a super-high gain tone on the mustang that's pretty close to the vypur's. In fender FUSE, you select either the fender super-sonic, american 90's or metal 2000 amp. Then you turn the gain all the way up and in the advanced amp settings, you set the cabinet to OFF. Then you should have a metal tone that's very fizzy, saturated and generally extremely heavy.
Wrong. The fender mustang v.2 has 16 amps, in the FUSE Software. There are 44 pre amp effects, and 44 (different) post-amp effects, including a post gain. Each effect is adjustable with around 5 knobs each, which is the main reason why the fender tblows the peavy out of the water. (the peavy cant adjust the effects).
I gotta say that to my ear that the Peavey is that Metal Machine of the two amps. It actually sounds richer and punchier on EVERY channel. The Fender is probably the best for blues or surf guitar but holy shit! That Peavey is a SCREAMER! I actually used to own a Mustang I but traded it in on a Roland Cube that does cost quite a bit more but is richer and more tube like. After this review though I think I need to go try out this Vyper for myself. Peavey was always the budget choice in the 80's.
I spent a considerable amount of time on these amps recently. I also included the Orange Crush 12 in the shootout. The other guitarist in the band and I wanted to find something small that we could both buy for the purpose of writing together with like tones and on the go. I(we) just didn't like any of them. I may have been tone spoiled playing nothing but tube the last few years. I ended up finding the Yamaha THR10X and decided 300 clams wasn't too much to spend on a small travel/desk amp. Even if you have a huge basement and are a gear hoarder like me and yes, you could have all three of the fore mentioned for the price of the THR10, I'd still look at the Yamaha. Fun and worth the price. Sounds just as good as my friend's 300$ Bose system when being used as speakers as well.
It's like Old Peavey and New Peavey are two different companies. Back in the late 90's and early 00's when I compared Peavey Bandit, Transtube, and Transformer to equivalent Fenders I ended up liking the Peaveys better. I wasn't comparing heavy metal, high distortion. Rather clean, country, blues, and Santana sounds: The Peavey amps were better IMHO, back then...
Man, I see my comment below and here I am again. I wanted to find out which models the Mustang copied. Great Channel. Thanks. Thought I subscribed before......if not I will today. Great info.
For either series, I think anybody buying the base model is doing themselves a disservice. I did a very detailed comparison of the mid-level units and the Vypyr VIP 2 was dollar for dollar a much better and more flexible amp. when you buy these amps, your main interest should be in the combo capability. That is their chief selling proposition.. and then, the supported amp models of course. The degree to which the Vypyr can be programmed with extremely customized presets is pretty wild. For example, if as suggested earlier, a pre-gain adjustment would have fixed the issue, you can very easily optiomize that, the delay, reverb, etc and save it for later recall. But one thing I learned with all of these is that you really need the companion footswitch to take full advantage of the all the flexibility. Peavey's Sanpera II footswitch in combination with the Vypyr 2 really unlocks all the Vypyr capability (like the built-in looper). So much so that you would never need a Vypyr 3 because the footswitch has an LED that tells you everything you need to know about the amps status; current amp selection, current effects, delay status, reverb status, etc.
Thanks @Remmy315 for the clarification. I think one thing that should be mentioned every time there's a review of a modeling AMP is how you have to think carefully about "modeling" being at the end of the audio chain (as I've come to learn). For example, with loopers becoming so popular, it's pretty much impossible to use a modeling amp's versatility to play a crunchy lead over an acoustic loop. The effects have to be applied before the looper.
The Vypyr is more versatile... a bigger assortment of amps and effects. Their pre-sets, especially on the gain channels, come with the pre-gain cranked. The Mustang comes with a tighter sound, as you'd expect with a closed-back cab. Peavey, again, was the first to patent and produce a small amp modeling Combo with multi-effects - to build it overseas and keep the price under $100.
I'm planning to buy one of these two. I made my mind to go for the fender but now you confused me. I never played one of these on my own, only youtube. Can you please tell me which one will be better for clean channels? Oh, I also consider playing acoutic guitar on it. Thanks for your reply in advance.
Just subscribed bro. I bought a Fender Mustang l about 2 months ago and LOVE IT!! I can get pretty much any sound I want out of it. I run my Strat HSS through a Cry Baby then into the Mustang. Great amp for the money. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a sweet practice amp or small gig amp.
I notice on the Peavey when he's changing sounds the lights around the gain,bass,treb knobs change because that's all its doing?! that is why the Peavey sounds (to me) like the same amp all the way across. A true modeling amp emulates the sound of a specific amp model; cabinet sizes, speaker sizes and number of speakers, etc.. . I like the Fender cause it actually has that ability to sound like other amps, not changing levels on one amp. If you close your eyes with a Mustang you feel the cabinet size has become smaller or larger. Software is super cool for major editing (even use another cabinet with any amp. Love my little Mustang 1.
dude i got the mustang v head and cab it is the single best purchase i ever made to this date!!! i have had it now for just over a month and i have gigged it and its awesome......
I just got a Fender Mustang 1 v2 and my buddy has a Peavy Vypyr 3...his amp is way more than he needs and the sound is somewhat muffled. The Mustang also has an easier user interface/control. I am a big Peavy fan but sound quality advantage seems to go to Fender on this one...btw, he uses a 2014 Gibson SG and I use a 1981 Fender Lead III. I do like that the Peavy is an open back as you can feel the air escaping the headphone jack and other outs when pushing the Fender but it does not seem to affect the sound quality. As per aesthetics, Peavy insists on mucking their looks up with flashy lights and Geiger-esque designs which cheapen the look (not the quality/features).All-in-all, I prefer the Fender because of sound, build quality and, yes, brand loyalty.
I recently bought the mustang ebay for $50 just to see what it was about. I have a line 6/and mesa boogie rack system and black shadow 412 cab so its more or less a toy compared to that. But I do have to say it sounds pretty damn good for a practice/beginner modeling amp. The effects aren't bad. And its super versatile. Each model is unique. It covers everything from jazz to country to death metal. Plus you can record directly from the preamp and make your own presets with the fender fuse softw
Another great review. I've made a few purchases based on your videos. I just recently purchased the Egnater Renegade head. Have you reviewed it or checked that amp out? I love my Renegade. The tone and features are amazing and makes a great gigging amp. Keep up the great work you do TTK!
+VEHICROS I waited for a while to reply so you could get your head out of your ass and get some oxygen back into your brains. now that your focus is back let me try and make something clear to you. 1st and for most, these $99 mini amps can't be compared to a large amp. they are for when you can't get to where all your gear is set up. like when your on vacation or not at your practice place. the next best thing. 2nd yes I would recommend this amp for teens and beginners, because thats what its all about. getting the next generation to experience the gift of music. try not being so cynical, I believe that this amp gives people a chance to hear some vintage amp sounds. how can you go wrong there? 3rd you said its cheap? Absolutely not! take the shell off and look at the construction. I don't have time to get into the boards and tech but its standard. remember all instruments and equipment have value. so now you can stick your head back up your ass and keep living your life as normal.
for $100 i would think so though i have not looked into either one. starter amps especially practice amps like these tend to be solid state due to the ruggedness and lack of mantanice. Peavy does make a tube version for alittle more and it does round out the sound a bit. For the money they dont sound too bad. Though if your looking for a small pocket size practice amp that can drive a 4x12, I would go towards the SMOKEY AMPS. They have a Traditional and a High Gain model. Both run around $50
When he's swinging it around you can see the golden fur color close to the middle part of the body so I'm assuming the white part is like an underbelly. The patches aren't very cow like.
StHugh OfLincoln you kinda need the right guitsr to get the sound. I have to use different guitars ranging from fender to epi to schecter to get the tones I want out off the 100 watt mustang. Also helps to tweak settings on the computer. Unlike line six however the mustsng when switching channels does not lesve you with pause. Its Instsnt snd I love it.
you rock! that was a cool shoot out! it's a wonder how insane the new amps are. i got the 75watt line 6 spider4 and it sucks in comparison! not really but i can't get a good modern crunch out of it to save my life and that lil mustang's last mod is sick! $100! wish it came as a 12in. i'm currious how loud they were when u played 'em. they both sound dam good for a "practice" amp lol! did they have a preamp output so u could use them into a big amp? keep on rockin for us! cheers!
These Peavey Vypers are break through amps (the orginals and the VIP's) In my mind this is the first time anyone made a modeling amp that can actually sound like a real tube amp! Peavey got this technology from the Peavey Revalver software and it has been a game changer. If you are on a budget, buy this little 15 watt Peavey Vypr on the used market for around $50 or so,(current going rate) then disconnect the speaker and hardwire it to a 12 inch speaker cab..You will have a scary great sounding amp. If you play in a live band, you are going to need to mic it through the P.A,.because it's only 15 watts.
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Well, I have a Vypyr 30 and I really like it. I can play my favourite tones with my Peavey, but the 15 version in this video sounds totally different... I'm almost sure it's because he used way too much Pre Gain. If you see carefully, that gain was allways on the highest level, and this makes a dirty sound on the Peavey, which you'll only use while playing thrash metal, maybe.
Set it on 5.5/7, it will sound clearer and you will see a huge difference!
One last thing: don't let the fact that the volume is turned up higher on the Peavy trick you. You can get the identical sound on the Fender, the volume is set to the preset level which is easily changed by turning up the volume then clicking the red flashing "save" button.
I have both the Peavey Vypyr 30 and the Mustang 3 V-2 and they both have their place in my collection. I like them both equally for the difference in sounds...
amen...i have the peavey 30...and if yer not recording with it, the flexibility is awesome!
The fender's different amp models actually do sound like different amps (albeit modeled, I got the impression that I was hearing different amplifier sounds) The Peavey, to me, really just sounded like the same amp EQ'd differently for each amp setting (meaning, I could simply set the EQ on my Peavey 6505 differently, and make it sound like each of those different amp models on the peavey vypyr, but I couldn't imitate the sounds on the fender mustang with my single peavey 6505, which I shouldn't be able to considering it's a tube amp with a single function of playing metal, and these are modeling amps). The Peavey probably had a more solid metal sound (though it was a little too compressed and digitized for my taste, it was at least higher gain), I think considering the function of these amps is to serve as low cost modeling amps, I think the fender does a much better job of that, based on this video. I also personally thought it sounded better, had a more authentic tube amp sound (more of an overdrive sound instead of pure sharp distortion), less digitized, but that was my personal opinion, that's admittedly more an issue of personal taste. Still, even taking personal preference out of the equation, I think the fender served the purpose of a modeling amp more effectively than the less dynamic Peavey.
Let's be honest. This wasn't a very good demo of two amps. There was no justice done to either of them. What you should do when you go and try an amp is set it to how YOU would set it and then in this case play with the amp models. Take the fender for example, the v.2 has more than 8 amps. It has more like 12-16. And the USB connectivity would help for both amps, that's why it comes with it.
I currently own the Mustang and previously owned the Peavey. I personally prefer the Fender. For me the Mustang sounds better. It also comes with Fuse software for further customization to the sounds and the ability to add additional presets and backing tracks. In addition to all of that you also get free IKmultimedia Fender Amplitude...for a small at home practice amp this stuff matters to me. On the other hand the Peavy has a Bass simulator which is kinda cool and a few extras including software which for me in comparison was short on features.
6:40 to skip the bs
MrMethadrine Thanks, but the whole video was bs😁
*13:38 to skip the bs
The fender really does clean tones best. I'm sure most people realize that though
The distortion is awesome too if you use the software to personalize it
Fender mustang is a great starter amp! Not all of us can start with a big stack amp and speakers, when I get better I will buy a bigger fender.
Simple verdict: For metal the Peavey wins, for Classic rock and the blues, the Fender wins.
Honestly though in the $99 price range, get a used Peavey Bandit. It'll smoke either fo these amps and at better volumes.
You're most likely not finding a $450 amp for $99 used but good luck with that.
@@joelmiddaugh8229 Yeah actually it's very easy. And not one of the current generation made in China models either. Peavey USA Bandits. I see two on my local craigslist right now asking for less than 200.
Actually the metal tone i achieved with the fender Mustang is way better than the one i got with the vip 1, just use the software
Lemme help you guys out . . . singer / songwriter here, I'm 37 yrs old started playing at age 3. I just done went to guitar center today, and got to check out both these amps, and from what I heard if you want lots of capability such as rigging your bass, or acoustic into this amp, and if u like effects galore then the peavey is the amp for you, but if you're willing to sacrifice some of the effects and capability's for a nice clear clean sound on both clean channel & distortion the Mustang is for you . . .
Either way to say which amp is better is subjective . . . It all comes down to personal preference you the player. My best suggestion for anyone is to go check em out. . .
Hope this helps you all, may GOD bless !!!
Thank you so much for posting this video comparison between these two as I am currently looking at both amps as a possibility for me. Although the Vypyr stood out in this video for high gain and punchiness, the Mustang seemed more down my alley and more or less what I am looking for. Both sound great for what they are through! Keep on Rocking!!!
The Vypyr fits my needs. It has a "Brit Amp" Mode, (Marshall). It also has the Van Halen, 6150 Replica amp, plus tube screamer and an excellent clean channel.
Yes I agree. It just has mojo and good tone.
Thank you for a great overview of the differences between the two. It is very helpful compared to viewing the specs on a retailer's site. You've done the homework for us, and it's appreciated.
Mustang is All-rounder, Vypyr is good for Metal
I've got the Peavey Vypyr 30 and it really does sound quite fizzy. I liked it originally but I seem to be looking around now.
the vypyr is the best ss modeling combo out right now imo. i played a 75 watt version when it first came out and even after playing through a 6505+ paired with v30's for over a year prior to that, i was still blown away by the vypyr with both it's clean and high gain channels as well as its effects and bought it the same day. for those of you who thinks it sounds bad i recommend you try it for yourself and if you can dial in an amp even somewhat decent you'll be impressed with it.
I think your video served the purpose. its quite clear which amp sounds better. Good work!
The Fender just sounds more dynamic and versatile than the Peavey to me.
The mustang is surprisingly dynamic for a modeler!
Yep, killer amps, the Mustangs, before they put out the Mustang G3 that is, then they went south, but I have a Mustang 3 V2, and it's as dynamic as a tube-amp, and serves all kind of guitarists, from starter to pro
Awesome demo/comparison @Imsjr I am glad you still inform (us) viewers of the amps features and specs, most reviewers on TH-cam dont give the gears facts, like you do.
I had a Mustang I v2 for about 3.5 years. It did its job fine, I managed to get some useable tones from it. But a lot of the presets were gimmicky, and never got used - I found the same to be true about the Fender Fuse software. I very quickly outgrew the amp and was looking for something different for some time. My biggest complaint about the Mustang I was the way it felt to play. Didn't feel at all organic under the fingers. But as a beginner amp and an "intro" to electric guitar, it is more than adequate. Its cheap enough that you won't feel too bad about replacing it as you develop into a more intermediate guitarist after 1-3 years.
Thanks, that was a great no nonsense review. My preference was the Mustang. I can see where Peavey might have more draw for the metal guys but for blues and basic rock. I like the Mustang.
You get a lot of practice amp these days for a hundred bucks - the price of a cpl of no-name 6L6 valves :-). Next time what I wish you'd do is pick one model both amps attempt - ex the Boogie - and very carefully A/B one to the other - exact same short lick - hit B - repeat. But keep up the good work Mr TK - happy new year and here is to a great and prosperous 2016!!
I don't need pedals with mine, The secret is first, turn off the cabinet modeling, and the Bias (not like tube bias) set to the left makes the pre-amp the gain stage, and the right side gives the "power tube" sound. I have the IV, and it doesn't respond well to pedals in the front end, but the effects loop works great. I've been able to model my Old Marshall 2204, a Blackstar series one, an Orange, an Engl, and even a great "Brown Sound".
I liked both of them, but I think for certain that the Vypyr blew away the Mustang when it came to hard-rock and metal sounds. However with that said, the Mustang was clearly superior on the low-gain classic rock and blues sounds. It should also be noted that Peavey doesn't support the USB drivers for the Vypyr anymore and unfortunately the USB system is very very wonky. I just had to deal with this yesterday helping a friend out who has this amp and who was trying to use it with Vegas Video, Guitar Rig 5 and Amplitude. So buyer beware.
Both under $110, might pick these up for the hell of it. I won't use them too much but if a friend comes over it'd be cool to have something for them to play on.
As a Peavey dealer. I can honestly tell you I am partial to their product. Yet I could not see where the Fender sounded horrible like I have read from others. For it's price range, it sounded fine for someone to practice with it. The Peavey has the advantage on this one after watching his review. By the way. My father grew up in Brooklyn, NY and I caught you pronounce the word Idea as Ideer. So I gotta ask, are you from NY because I have only heard New Yorkers like my father say that. Check out the Peavey Vypyr VIP. I was impressed when listening to it at Peavey headquarters.
I totally like the Peavey. I kicks out richer and fuller. Makes me want to play. I think that I will!
i remember trying out modeling amps in Dawsons.
i tried a vypyr, a mustang, a line6 spider and the Vox VT.
judging entirely on the sound the Vox won hands down,
its the most expensive by a tiny margin but its well worth it!
I own the Mustang 1 v2 and the Peavey Vyper1 and, while I originally liked the Fender better because it's easier to master right out of the box and has a couple of nice settings. But with time (and study of the manual), I have come to strongly prefer the Peavey. Why? First, the Peavey can apply an acoustic sound to my electric that sounds very cool and legit. Second, I can apply clean, crunchy and heavily distorted to every amp type with the Peavey AND then apply more or less overdrive to each AND a tube screamer - all of which provides a lot of dexterity. Delay and Reverb can be applied with custom settings to each of the 16 customizable presets. Also, the Peavey had a midrange control while Fender has just bass and treble. Otherwise the "stomp" effects are similar for each, Fender is a bit smaller in stature. Overall, the Peavey has more options for settings and sound textures but you WILL have to read the manual carefully to appreciate it. I guess the Tone King likes heavy metal because he has the gain pretty much max'd out on every Peavey setting. I play blues and so you can cut all that way back and get more of a classic rock flavor if you like :-)
reverse and pitch shifter is on the mustang 1 v2 in the software area as well as a few others as well
Thanks for not trying to showcase guitar skills, as many do. This is a very informative video on the subject at hand, amp sounds and features. Thanks!
Anybody else think the Peavey sounds like somebody plugged a Metal Zone into a $30 starter amp?
Naw..a metal zone and a $30 amp would sound a lot better.
I have done that before
You need some disinfectant for your ears.
I have a DS1 and a Peavy Rage now. Its great, all starter amps aren't bad
He's got the preamp gain dimed for every example lol.
@rjake61- you are right. In Peavey each model sounded the same. Same voicing - only change in gain and post EQ mids.
Mustang on the other hand has varied sounds ...
I ve been playing guitar over 50 years and occasional do open mics,so I don't wanna move my half stack anymore to include future live paid gigs .I demoed a Vypyr and was sold immediately, its an incredible amp with fantastic effects and not too heavy in weight, I had many onlookers when I went to the local guitar center here in Florida. They were impressed and do was I knowing, no more carting around foot pedal boxes or rack mounts.Its quite sufficient for any advanced guitarist,who gets right down to business instead of fidgeting with noise and warm-ups
From my experience I have owned both, in my opinion the Mustang sounds great for cleans, and the Vyper sounds great for high gain. The Mustang will do the overdrive sound well too. The Vypes all high gain but does it well. For my personal taste I like the Mustang, esp the 65 Twin tone.
I tried the Mustang 2 - 40w and the Vypyr 30w. The tones shown here are definitely more geared towards metal, whereas I was more interested in clean, blues and classic rock tones. I actually found most of the tones I was looking for on both amps, although it took a bit of time. The Vypyr doesn't just do thrash metal, unless you want it to, it does some bright sparkly cleans on the green channel which I thought compared very well to the Mustang. The mustang had some nice emulations of vintage Fender amps (Clean, blues & classic rock) but were pretty much programmed in (using FUSE from a computer) so would need adjusting if you were gigging with it to suit the surrounding acoustics. I found the Vypyr easy to adjust & EQ on the fly just by tweaking I few knobs. The Vypyr also took my favourite pedals well when set clean / Green channel, the Mustang didn't entirely like my pedals. Maybe you won't want to use any pedals and just the onboard amps / effects which aren't too terrible, but I just know that I really would want at least a decent drive pedal? Both amps could be useful to us guys that are not looking for thrash metal but it depends on whether you would like an easy to use control panel (Vypyr) or rely on programmed tones (Mustang) as good as they are! As to which is best: my advice would be to try both out but don't forget to consider the Mustang 2 vs Vypyr 30 or later VIP models.
The Fender Champion 20w or 40w amp models are a reasonable alternative if you want some easy to use amp modelling, plus a few basic effects. Probably not the best choice for metal, without using pedals, though!
Great video Tom King thanks again thanks for taking the time to make it thank you very much for posting it the TV looks ridiculous the Mustang sounds great place great the computer interface is really nice on that one Thunder did a damn good job on the Mustang series I think I have two of them the Code up very well they sound very good invest in a footswitch with the tuner option like a $40 upgrade but it's well worth i thanks again Tone King people keep the videos coming it's really nice to have someone like yourself out there
Good job talking thank you your videos always come out pretty well thanks for taking your time making it I think you did a pretty fair comparison however the TV looks terrible the Fender Mustang is a great little amplifier for a hundred bucks I have had one for almost 7 years that would up very well Fender did an excellent job on the Mustang series
Hey Tone King, thanks for the shootout. I would of preferred an a/b of identical models, but that's cool. I am just coming into this comparison of these types of amps and actually the search for the Peavey Vypyr VIP III has lead me here. I know both amps have probably came a long way since this video. Just in looks the old Vypyr just reminds of something Batman would play. Throws me off of it a bit. The VIP, not so much. In any case, the VIP has attracted me because of being able to play several instruments and I play them all. Just wondering what your thoughts on how the VIP III would stand up in a live situation? When I say live, I am talking small bar & grill's where 100 watt heads are just far too much. These new micro tube head with like 20 watts would do far better in these places. I share duties of playing electric guitar, bass and acoustic and the VIP III, seems like the ticket.
Ok? that Vypyr kicks ass.. they have come a long way since the first Rage model.thank you for sharing the video!!
I can see your Bugera 333 in the back. I miss that amp. Got stolen a few years back. Great vid by the way. Been watching for a very long time.
Many thanks for the detailed review and the extra information on your page.Now I have both of them at home and can compare myself. The controls of the Peavey are logical and easy to use, I hate the controls of the mustang. You never know, what settings you are in when not connected to a PC. I also dislike the missing mid tones knob on the mustang, the cheaper Peavey has one. From the sound, I think the Mustang (I have the V2) sounds a bit muffled in comparison, the Peavey sounds more open. But at high gain, the Peavey sound gets more undifferentiated than the Mustang. And the Mustang amp sims sound more different, the Peavey simulations sometimes just seem to differ in the level of gain. I am not really satisfied with both of them, maybe I try the Line6 next.
listening to his reviews are hard because he hits the same power chords every time. But I love what he is doing, helping us hear the amp sounds. I agree with another comment below that he could hire or find a volunteer you wants exposure on youtube who is musical rather than simply listening at guitar and amp tone with power chords and some occasional leads.
Download the Manual for the Peavey Vypyr, it explains what voicings the amp was modeled in, because the tone controls are dynamic not static, they affect each other and the amps according to the model and channel you set, sometimes they make huge changes in sound, sometimes not.
I bought the Fender Mustang amp a couple days ago. Can't wait for it to get here!
+Erduk I bought the mustang when it first came out, The best home use amp ever in my opinion. You will not be dissapointed with your purchase it is the best modelling amp out there..period :)
Hugh Caldwell Loving it so far. :P
+Erduk Good to hear. rock on!
You should get Remuda on your Android phone.. It helped me a lot :)
+Hugh Caldwell just bought it today and it's great. I totally agree with you.
The 15W Vypyr sounds great, but the higher wattage Vypyrs really sound like you wouldn't believe.
Louie, I like you and your channel. I must tell you that there are a lot of people who want to hear a more complete spectrum of sounds that the amps can make. People have musical interests that change over the years. Many people who might move to blues or jazz or standards as they get older, they need to know what the amp sounds like clean or with light OD. I thought I'd die before I got old but here I am at49. Been a bassist and played my first paying club gig 35 years ago. Clean tones please
PS Mr TK - I was hearing a little Buck Dharma circa Secret Treaties channeled via your demo, and we can never have enough BOC from '72 so keep it up !
The AMBER on the Mustang can only be saved online. It's a whole different world man. Plug in with a standard USB cord and create an account. Then you'll have access to a 2 channel studio there and Tons of PRO Guitarists presets along with other Mustang players that saved their presets online. Fun to scroll through and find ones you dig without having to set them yourself. You can use the Amber just like the Red and Green. You just can't save them offline like the Red and Green.
I had the Vypyr 30 and liked it. Sold it to get the Vypyr tube 60. Big problems, to the shop and back. Now out of warranty there is a short somewhere and lose volume at random. Have to smack it on top to get it back! I bet they discontinued it due to glitches like that. My main amp is a Peavey Classic 30 tube amp with Speaker upgrade.... it's great. On here I agree with others the Fender sounds more natural and I vote for it.
I own a Mustang 1 and love it, I think the amp models sound like the amps they are modeling, the Peavey however sounded all the same, no real difference in the sound on each amp model, and it did not sound like the amps it was suppose to be modeling. Peavey is more for Metal heads, Fender is more for Blues and Rock. I prefer the Fender.
I agree, the difference between the Peavy amps seemed to be less. They each sounded very similar and somewhat tinny. Plus, be sure to check out the youtube videos about the Fender software it comes with where you can add effects boxes and set each amp using an image of each original amp's controls on the screen.
This video made up my mind to go with the Mustang 1.
Im a metalhead and i prefer the mustang 1, the peavey tone sucks when you actually try it.
(i owned both, and i use the past tense because i gave back the peavey since i was totally disappointed with its 'controlled" distorsion)
I wouldn't buy the Peavey just because it looks like Darth Vader's cape.
PCollen YT I have a Vypyr i took the "teeth" of of it. It looks much more legit and clean now.
VirtualLife You're kidding right...? To my ears, the Vypyr not only looks like a toy, but also sounds like it... I don't have the Mustang one, but I have the Mustang III v2, and that blows every model amp, and even many tube-amps, out of the water... Best gear-purchase i've ever done...
I've had the Mustang 1. I now own the Vypyr VIP 1. The mustang is a joke in comparison. Better get your ears checked.
rick lavigne %100
@@s1iznc1d34 gimme the choice between the fender and the peavy and the peavy's getting thrown out of a window
These little practice amps have come a long way since I bought my Fender Bullet Reverb. I was happy with a built-in reverb back then, now they have built-in amp modelling. I'm partial to the variety on the Fender. The peavy sounds like it's tailored exclusively to metal players.
Best way to compare is to go to a shop and play both. However here is my opinion ( I love finding that perfect tone of a clean distortion.)
Peavey:
+A lot of various options
+A loud amp
+Feels very sturdy.
-Tho it has a lot of options, they seem to be more for 'quantity' over quality.
-The amp just has a very harsh 'scrape' even on a clean setting.
-So many buttons, makes it feel very complicated.
Fender:
+ Each setting sounds good even right out of the box.
+ The distortion caught my eye and made me buy the amp, seriously this thing has such a good distortion.
+The layout is less complicated and yet I think it does a better job at each setting.
-Not as loud as the Peavey
-Some of the sounds tend to be over whelming and when you go to make it less it still seems like a lot, especially when you have a chorus/reverb on at the same time.
If I were you, I'd buy the Fender. I thought a marshal would of been the best but this little amp does a great job, especially if your recording.
Welp I just bought the Mustang LT50 and my buddy has a Vyper 30. Can't wait to go jam and test both of them out!
too bad the fender kicks the peaveys ass with the free software.(my friend has the peavey and i have the fender and we both agree on the matter)
I love my mustang. I got a hot rod deluxe recently so I don't use the mustang very much anymore, but it has a great tone for a modeling amp.
LOL ~!!!
rick lavigne what's lots of laughs I don't understand what you what you laughing at
I've owned both amps and the Peavy is a much better amp. I got rid of the Mustang and kept the Vypyr.
Great shootout.These are great for beginners finding their way in the world of tone.
TheActualKid I got the fender mustang 1 v2. I really like it, has really good clean and distorted sounds, also u can import more amp models from fender fuse, I got a vox ac30 sound from there and I play a lot of nirvanna with it
I have a Fender Mustang III and it is great. Was thinking about the Peavey Vypyr 3, but the Peavey was more expensive with the addition of the Sanpera II foot switch. Over $500.00. My Mustang II was $329.00 and $100.00 for the 4 button foot switch. (The 2 button comes with the amp) You can use Both the 2 and 4 button foot switch at the same time in the Mustang III amp. For my money, I choose the Mustang III and I am very happy with it. For playing live, I have the Fender EVH 2-12, 50 watt 5150 and that amp rocks.
I own both. I paid $99 for each one brand new at Guitar Center. They are very close in both sound quality and features. The nice thing about the Vypyr is the interface is WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) and can be dialed in very quickly and accurately. The mustang is more of a plug it in and let 'er rip kinda deal. As far as the number of amp models and effects, you will find yourself using just a few of each choice because the others don't sound very good, and that's for both. Enjoy!
glad to see this comparison. I've seen a lot of both of these amps come up for sale and wanted a better solid-state practice amp than my Marshall mg15cfr. I like the sound of the Mustang, suits my style!! good stuff dude.
The Peavey's distortion sounds heavier and the Fender has a nice clean sound. I like how you can really hear a difference between amp models on the Peavey.
Why turn down the effect level on the Fender but keep the pre gain cranked to full on the Peavey? That is pretty much sabbotage.
Cheap being the key word. A Metropolitan Tone king, a Matchless, or if you hit the lotto, a Dumble. But you couldn't be more correct, for the money, the clean headroom and Glassy tube sound of the old Blackfaces or even a Twin cannot be beaten. As for solid state, a Roland Jazz Chorus is still tops for cleans IMHO..
Always great stuff TK, love your videos
You can actually get a super-high gain tone on the mustang that's pretty close to the vypur's. In fender FUSE, you select either the fender super-sonic, american 90's or metal 2000 amp. Then you turn the gain all the way up and in the advanced amp settings, you set the cabinet to OFF. Then you should have a metal tone that's very fizzy, saturated and generally extremely heavy.
Wrong. The fender mustang v.2 has 16 amps, in the FUSE Software. There are 44 pre amp effects, and 44 (different) post-amp effects, including a post gain. Each effect is adjustable with around 5 knobs each, which is the main reason why the fender tblows the peavy out of the water. (the peavy cant adjust the effects).
Great shoot-out. But have these amps a clean channel?
I gotta say that to my ear that the Peavey is that Metal Machine of the two amps. It actually sounds richer and punchier on EVERY channel. The Fender is probably the best for blues or surf guitar but holy shit! That Peavey is a SCREAMER! I actually used to own a Mustang I but traded it in on a Roland Cube that does cost quite a bit more but is richer and more tube like. After this review though I think I need to go try out this Vyper for myself. Peavey was always the budget choice in the 80's.
I spent a considerable amount of time on these amps recently. I also included the Orange Crush 12 in the shootout. The other guitarist in the band and I wanted to find something small that we could both buy for the purpose of writing together with like tones and on the go. I(we) just didn't like any of them. I may have been tone spoiled playing nothing but tube the last few years. I ended up finding the Yamaha THR10X and decided 300 clams wasn't too much to spend on a small travel/desk amp. Even if you have a huge basement and are a gear hoarder like me and yes, you could have all three of the fore mentioned for the price of the THR10, I'd still look at the Yamaha. Fun and worth the price. Sounds just as good as my friend's 300$ Bose system when being used as speakers as well.
It's like Old Peavey and New Peavey are two different companies. Back in the late 90's and early 00's when I compared Peavey Bandit, Transtube, and Transformer to equivalent Fenders I ended up liking the Peaveys better. I wasn't comparing heavy metal, high distortion. Rather clean, country, blues, and Santana sounds: The Peavey amps were better IMHO, back then...
Man, I see my comment below and here I am again. I wanted to find out which models the Mustang copied. Great Channel. Thanks. Thought I subscribed before......if not I will today. Great info.
For either series, I think anybody buying the base model is doing themselves a disservice. I did a very detailed comparison of the mid-level units and the Vypyr VIP 2 was dollar for dollar a much better and more flexible amp. when you buy these amps, your main interest should be in the combo capability. That is their chief selling proposition.. and then, the supported amp models of course. The degree to which the Vypyr can be programmed with extremely customized presets is pretty wild. For example, if as suggested earlier, a pre-gain adjustment would have fixed the issue, you can very easily optiomize that, the delay, reverb, etc and save it for later recall. But one thing I learned with all of these is that you really need the companion footswitch to take full advantage of the all the flexibility. Peavey's Sanpera II footswitch in combination with the Vypyr 2 really unlocks all the Vypyr capability (like the built-in looper). So much so that you would never need a Vypyr 3 because the footswitch has an LED that tells you everything you need to know about the amps status; current amp selection, current effects, delay status, reverb status, etc.
Thanks @Remmy315 for the clarification. I think one thing that should be mentioned every time there's a review of a modeling AMP is how you have to think carefully about "modeling" being at the end of the audio chain (as I've come to learn). For example, with loopers becoming so popular, it's pretty much impossible to use a modeling amp's versatility to play a crunchy lead over an acoustic loop. The effects have to be applied before the looper.
You could deep edit and add effects on the fender through the fender fuse software
The Vypyr is more versatile... a bigger assortment of amps and effects. Their pre-sets, especially on the gain channels, come with the pre-gain cranked.
The Mustang comes with a tighter sound, as you'd expect with a closed-back cab.
Peavey, again, was the first to patent and produce a small amp modeling Combo with multi-effects - to build it overseas and keep the price under $100.
I'm planning to buy one of these two. I made my mind to go for the fender but now you confused me. I never played one of these on my own, only youtube. Can you please tell me which one will be better for clean channels? Oh, I also consider playing acoutic guitar on it.
Thanks for your reply in advance.
fender mustang wins !
Just subscribed bro. I bought a Fender Mustang l about 2 months ago and LOVE IT!! I can get pretty much any sound I want out of it. I run my Strat HSS through a Cry Baby then into the Mustang. Great amp for the money. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a sweet practice amp or small gig amp.
I notice on the Peavey when he's changing sounds the lights around the gain,bass,treb knobs change because that's all its doing?! that is why the Peavey sounds (to me) like the same amp all the way across. A true modeling amp emulates the sound of a specific amp model; cabinet sizes, speaker sizes and number of speakers, etc.. . I like the Fender cause it actually has that ability to sound like other amps, not changing levels on one amp. If you close your eyes with a Mustang you feel the cabinet size has become smaller or larger. Software is super cool for major editing (even use another cabinet with any amp. Love my little Mustang 1.
Function Per Dollar (FPD) the Vypyr wins out every time. Think it's time to upgrade my Spider 3 Combo! Keep it rockin'!
dude i got the mustang v head and cab it is the single best purchase i ever made to this date!!! i have had it now for just over a month and i have gigged it and its awesome......
I just got a Fender Mustang 1 v2 and my buddy has a Peavy Vypyr 3...his amp is way more than he needs and the sound is somewhat muffled. The Mustang also has an easier user interface/control. I am a big Peavy fan but sound quality advantage seems to go to Fender on this one...btw, he uses a 2014 Gibson SG and I use a 1981 Fender Lead III. I do like that the Peavy is an open back as you can feel the air escaping the headphone jack and other outs when pushing the Fender but it does not seem to affect the sound quality. As per aesthetics, Peavy insists on mucking their looks up with flashy lights and Geiger-esque designs which cheapen the look (not the quality/features).All-in-all, I prefer the Fender because of sound, build quality and, yes, brand loyalty.
I recently bought the mustang ebay for $50 just to see what it was about. I have a line 6/and mesa boogie rack system and black shadow 412 cab so its more or less a toy compared to that. But I do have to say it sounds pretty damn good for a practice/beginner modeling amp. The effects aren't bad. And its super versatile. Each model is unique. It covers everything from jazz to country to death metal. Plus you can record directly from the preamp and make your own presets with the fender fuse softw
Peavey all the way...that 6505 sounds was spot on!!!
Another great review. I've made a few purchases based on your videos. I just recently purchased the Egnater Renegade head. Have you reviewed it or checked that amp out? I love my Renegade. The tone and features are amazing and makes a great gigging amp. Keep up the great work you do TTK!
Thanks for taking out effects each time. Modeling amps always exaggerate. I just hope gain and effect level is totally adjustable.
One thing to know about the Mustang amps, they cannot be repaired. The amp techs I've spoken with consider them disposable.
The Peavey looks ridiculous.
+Brian Rhoades Peavey used to be great, the big amps still are, but the Vypyr's looks and price spell Cheap and Teen appeal.
+VEHICROS I waited for a while to reply so you could get your head out of your ass and get some oxygen back into your brains. now that your focus is back let me try and make something clear to you. 1st and for most, these $99 mini amps can't be compared to a large amp. they are for when you can't get to where all your gear is set up. like when your on vacation or not at your practice place. the next best thing. 2nd yes I would recommend this amp for teens and beginners, because thats what its all about. getting the next generation to experience the gift of music. try not being so cynical, I believe that this amp gives people a chance to hear some vintage amp sounds. how can you go wrong there? 3rd you said its cheap? Absolutely not! take the shell off and look at the construction. I don't have time to get into the boards and tech but its standard. remember all instruments and equipment have value. so now you can stick your head back up your ass and keep living your life as normal.
totally agree
Does it come with a stick-on tattoo?
+Brian Rhoades I love stick on tattoos
for $100 i would think so though i have not looked into either one. starter amps especially practice amps like these tend to be solid state due to the ruggedness and lack of mantanice. Peavy does make a tube version for alittle more and it does round out the sound a bit. For the money they dont sound too bad. Though if your looking for a small pocket size practice amp that can drive a 4x12, I would go towards the SMOKEY AMPS. They have a Traditional and a High Gain model. Both run around $50
Vox vt+ series are the best affordable modeling amps imo.they sound pretty legit
i think Fender and peavey have veru good amps . also the cheaper Peavy amps sound very good. good enough to buy and try..r the Fender Champion20??
When he's swinging it around you can see the golden fur color close to the middle part of the body so I'm assuming the white part is like an underbelly. The patches aren't very cow like.
I use a carlsboro 50 top killer but needs love at the moment.
Could you would you use a 15 peavey like I've got live ?
Which one of the amps has better sound quality? I know that the mustang is louder but is it better quality?
hi i have the same peavey that you have what is the best tone or settings to use for blues it did not come with manuel best regards john
StHugh OfLincoln you kinda need the right guitsr to get the sound. I have to use different guitars ranging from fender to epi to schecter to get the tones I want out off the 100 watt mustang. Also helps to tweak settings on the computer. Unlike line six however the mustsng when switching channels does not lesve you with pause. Its Instsnt snd I love it.
I have tryed both I like the Finder more I have it on lay away.
you rock! that was a cool shoot out! it's a wonder how insane the new amps are. i got the 75watt line 6 spider4 and it sucks in comparison! not really but i can't get a good modern crunch out of it to save my life and that lil mustang's last mod is sick! $100! wish it came as a 12in. i'm currious how loud they were when u played 'em. they both sound dam good for a "practice" amp lol! did they have a preamp output so u could use them into a big amp? keep on rockin for us! cheers!
The mustang series actually sound quite impressive. I'm considering getting either the 100 watt combo or the head.
Of the tones you offered, the Peavey easily walked away with the win here. I would have liked some extended clean comparisons too...
These Peavey Vypers are break through amps (the orginals and the VIP's)
In my mind this is the first time anyone made a modeling amp that can actually sound like a real tube amp! Peavey got this technology from the Peavey Revalver software and it has been a game changer. If you are on a budget, buy this little 15 watt Peavey Vypr on the used market for around $50 or so,(current going rate) then disconnect the speaker and hardwire it to a 12 inch speaker cab..You will have a scary great sounding amp.
If you play in a live band, you are going to need to mic it through the P.A,.because it's only 15 watts.