Great comparison. If it helps anyone, I own the F&T in small and medium. I have a 39 inch chest and 30 inch waist. The small is perfect over a t-shirt, but I can't layer it over a fleece without looking like a stuffed sausage. The medium is actually a big step up in size. Over a t-shirt I look like a kid in dad's jacket, but it works great over an insulating layer. Based on your video it sounds like Thursday's medium might fall right between the two, which would have probably been the better option for me, but I've had mine for years (small for 3, medium for 2) and they've held up great.
Thanks for this video and for adding your layering category. This is an important thing to know for me as I would layer. If Thursday dropped the price by even $20-$30, it would do a killing, I think. If for only $18 more you can get a famous thus cool version of this jacket, then the choice is obvious.
Great review, Patrick! A waxed trucker jacket has been on my want list for a while. I can't tell you how many times I have gone to Huckberry's site to read reviews on Flint & Tinder's jacket. Then, Thursday decides to produce one....ahhhh...decisions decisions. I will have to watch this video again when the time comes for me to order one. And, I just might have to ask you some more detailed questions as well. Again, great job Patrick! 👏
Right on, brother! Thanks for watching. I certainly know the feeling of stalking Huckberry late at night, finger hovering over "Add to Cart." :) Feel free to reach out to me any time to ask questions. rockymtnstyle@gmail.com.
One quick side note: it is said that the FnT lining on the Hudson jacket comes from Abraham Moon which is an old UK made company. Note sure about the trucker but I have read that it was an American made lining. Unfortunately I can't find that source again.
For comparison - I'm about 5'8.5" tall, between 185 and 190 lbs in this video, and have pretty thick/beefy shoulders. Let me know if you have any sizing questions, or other questions! Thanks for watching!
forgive me as i'm this freak in 2023 that never wears a t-shirt (as opposed to an undershirt) in public so your excellent overview helped point me toward the Thursday. great stuff. thanks.
The two jackets seem very comparable with an almost insignificant price difference. I got the Thursday jacket because I prefer the cotton lining to the polyester or wool lining in North Florida. I started wearing waxed cotton motorcycle raingear in 1969 but the traditional British products have gotten a bit dear. Rugged stuff that benefits from rewaxing every year or so and looks like new if you turn the garment inside out and toss it in a dryer for 5 minutes.
Excellent review and I really appreciate your attention to detail. I'm sure both jackets will be awesome. I've never had either in hand, but I'm just noticing that the majority of pictures that I see of the Thursday, is that the fabric appears shiny or wet. Perhaps that is their intent? Maybe will patina and dull as the jacket is worn.
Considering they are almost the same price - as much as I like Thursday - I would still go with the Flint and Tinder jacket because it is made in the USA, whereas the Thursday jacket is not. So at that price, I am always going to go with the USA made item when the two things being compared are so similar otherwise.
Thank you for the review! I’d love a follow up video with alternatives for some of the drawbacks. What is your favorite coat for windy weather? Or for warmth? Within the heritage space. Thank you!
Great suggestion, TCC! My top suggestion for windy weather right now would be the Proof Passport Field Jacket. I just tested that out for a video and got to put it through it's paces in the stiff wind of the eastern Colorado plains and it was impressive. Also, the Relwen Windzip jacker is a solid choice for a multitude of conditions. Might plan a vid on it... again, thanks for the suggestion! :)
My chest is 45" but I'm only 5'8". So I have to get an XL and the arms are usually long for me. The flint and tinder seems baggier towards the bottom of the jacket where the Thursday looks more slim fit. I need that slim fit otherwise I look like I'm a kid wearing my dad's jacket. But I WANT the F&T😢
I feel your pain, man! I have that same issue a lot. To be honest, if you know a decent tailor they can shorter the sleeves for you. My chest is 43.5" and I'm wearing the medium here. I bet you could get away with a large if you want it to be somewhat slim, and then the sleeves may not even be THAT long. You can always return it! :)
Hah! Hard to argue that! What a great brand. Unfortunately, none of them fit me! Can't be 5'8" and stocky apparently. At least with the Ashby and Bedale, which I did buy and try and had to return. Any recommendations?
@@rockymtnstyle I’m 5’8 170 with broad shoulders and a 40” chest. The Harrington waxed quilt lined jacket fits me well in a size Large. If you want a slimmer fit go with a Medium
I'm about 15 lbs heavier and a 42.5" chest or so. Losing weight slowly. If I can get down into the 170s consistently I think I'll try again. Really like their look. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great review once again. Thursday Quality goods will be my choice for a few reasons and i will explain. England makes very high quality wax canvas products and most of those quality brands prefer a dryer feeling wax.(idea for a little research & video topic) Portugal have great craftmanship in all kinds of products not only clothes. I personally don't mind where it is made because i lived in Europe for half my life. I am jealous of the cool factor. ( The last of us )
Thanks, man! That's interesting info about the dryer wax. I hadn't realized that. It makes sense, especially if developing a "sick patina" isn't the main goal of the jacket. I can see the English brands going that direction. Agreed about Portugal and many other countries, great craftsman can certainly be found. I really appreciate your comment. Will certainly keep some of this in mind for the future.
I own a couple of leather jackets and boots from Thursday's and recently bought 2 flint and tinder wax trucker jackets.. and to be honest, you just can't go wrong with this 2 brands. the thursday field wax jacket is incredible.
You nailed one key thing for me. Where it's made. I've been wanting an Iron and Resin Scout jacket for about 8 or 9 months now. I haven't bought it because it's "imported" and I can't find where. My problem with that is they used to make it in the US for a lower price point, yes I understand inflation, but there's competition USA made at similar price points. So I'm buying nothing. I don't like the Flint and Tinder, Rogue Territory and the 3sixteen is sold out. Maybe next year. I have a symmetry issue. If you have one bold front pocket it must have a second that matches. I also prefer the Type 3 fit is why Iron and Resin or 3Sixteen.
Thanks for the comment, Dark! Appreciate you taking the time to share. I can understand the symmetry thing. And I agree, I do love a type 3 design. Just picked up a type 3 from Brave Star. Hope you find something you love soon!
Thanks for this awesome video. I’ve subbed! I already had the flannel flint and tinder (moss green) and love it. Look forward to seeing you rewax it when needed. 👍
Thanks, Simon! Appreciate that very much. I think it'll be a late summer project for me to get ready for fall. After two seasons it certainly still has a good amount of wax but I might as well top up the tank!
Thursday interior lining is actually 100% cotton , considering waxed jackets aren’t that breathable, i would prefer a cotton lining instead a polyester one
I ordered mine in November and had the same annoyances (if we can call that) as you. I very much like the jacket, one of my complaints would be just an issue with it being a trucker as I wish the sleeves were shorter, but some quality of life touches would have been nice. I wish the front pockets were lined and I wish that it was easier to layer. When wearing this jacket, I would normally be wearing a hoodie and most of my hoodies, except for 1 (makes me want to get a zip up version of that same hoodie because of it), will bunch up unless I hold on to the cuff of the sleeves as I slide my arms through. This is a minor inconvenience but still something that I dont want to conciously be thinking about when just trying to walk out the door. Also, due to that, often times I need to readjust my sleeves underneath the jacket otherwise it would inhibit motion and comfort at my elbows. This was most noticeably an issue with my American Giant Classic Hoodie. Regarding the lined pockets, they really are only good for blocking the wind and maybe putting small items for temporary storage. Often, I would instinctively put my hands into those pockets looking for a soft place for my hands to comfortable, while my face is being tortured by New York winter winds, but was left disappointed. Do you think these are things that a tailor could potentially resolve? Atleast in regards to the sleeve length and pockets? I don't know how that would affect the quality of the canvas and wax though. Additionally, another complaint, which is a lot more opinionative, is that I wish that the inner flannel lining was more color neutral. I mostly wear blacks and greys, which is why I chose the coal option, but if the lining is exposed via the torso or if I want to roll up my sleeves then I have yellow stripes being visible that throws off the outfit. That last complaint probably isnt that big deal but I feel like maybe matching the liner to the color of the jacket would have made a HUGE difference in terms of perceived attention to detail and I would enjoy this jacket SO much more. There have been so many times in which I am wearing the jacket inside and taking it off wasnt a viable option but didnt want to roll up the sleeves or cuffs due to the yellow stripes.
Hey man! Appreciate you sharing your experience. To answer your first question, I've always heard that a good tailor can do anything for the right price. If you were just looking for something soft to be sewn in that might be doable, but making them any larger to accommodate more stuff would probably be way more trouble than its worth. I agree with you on the lining color. I think perhaps they might have wanted a distinctive feature so if someone saw it they'd know it's a F&T. But who knows?! Cheers, mate!
This is really what I really want months ago. Thank you for making this video. I like the Thursday design better but they got the inside pocket on the right side and small, which make me decide not to buying it.
I have to compliment you on the thoroughness of your review and the detail you provided in every category. You confirmed my suspicions that the F&T is a better jacket. Sizing question, I’m 62 years old, about 6’3” 205 pounds, 44 chest with average torso and longer arms. I plan on wearing with a t shirt but would like the option to layer over a sweater or long sleeve shirt. Most jackets in a large are tight in the shoulders and narrow in the waist for me so I’m thinking probably Xl. Only concern is that the XL will be boxy. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Hey Slip! Appreciate the compliment and thanks for taking the time to watch. My chest is about 44" also. Given you're much taller than me and only 18lbs heavier, I actually think a large might work for chest/shoulders. The only potential issue will be the sleeves being a bit short I'd think, because for me, the large (wool-lined) I have only has about 1.5" extra length on the sleeves. So that leads me to an XL. It will certainly be loose, but I don't think it will be too boxy. The shoulders on all are narrow and there is a straight silhouette so you should be good. And if you want to layer over a swear or L/S shirt, I'd 100% try out the XL. Hope that helps and hope it works if you pick one up!
@@rockymtnstyle Appreciate the response and feedback. I’m going to try the large based on your suggestion and figure I can always exchange if I need to size up. I know Huckberry’s return process is top notch.
Kudos to the vid overall as this is my first time seeing this channel. My only question is why didn’t you try on the jackets so we can see how they look?
Hey, Bran! Welcome and thank you! And you know what... that's a good question. Not sure to be honest! At that point I was pretty new to the channel game and pretty busy with life so I probably didn't plan the video out as well as I should have. Believe I do have a few other videos of me wearing the items, but that's for bringing it to my attention! I"m about to start some new jacket content for this fall/winter and I'll make sure to have a ton of try on footage.
Excellent detailed comparison! Which one do you find more comfortable after breaking them both in? Im leaning towards the Thursday since it has lined pockets.
Thank you, Harsha! Overall I think the F&T is better for me and how I normally wear these jackets, which is over a t-shirt on a not-too-cold day. However, if I'm wearing a long-sleeved shirt underneath, I prefer the Thursday since it has the smoother interior sleeve lining which makes it much more comfortable in that one situation. Both are great, though! Hope that helps!
Great review! If you ever get a chance, check out and compare/contrast the Filson Short Lined Cruiser and the Freenote Cloth Riders jackets. That would be a good one!
Hey, Andrew! The flannel-lining on both feels similar, and that is to say they feel like a worn-in t-shirt. Pretty comfy to be honest. If you mean -10 to -15 C, yes, I think either jacket could handle that as long as your base layer wasn't a t-shirt...but it's pushing it. If you mean -10 to -15 F, nope, I wouldn't wear either that low. Cheers, mate!
I have the thursday and i wore a t shirt and champion crew neck sweater and spent an hour outside in -14C fairly windy Canadian evening and it was not very warm
@@rockymtnstyle I do like how the F and T is fully blanket lined. I have and Iron and Resin Scout that has satin lined sleeves, that I am OK with, but prefer the full blanket lining. I was considering grabbing a Thursday to compare all 3 jackets. Thanks for the reply.
@@rockymtnstyle By the way, I really dig your content. I've checked out a bunch of your videos. You're the only one with anything on the Thursday jacket. Keep up the great content.
@@jeffgrantMEDIA I really appreciate that! Trying to get better and better. And quite surprising on the Thursday jacket. I knew I'd be first but given the popularity of waxed jackets I'd have thought a few more may have popped up.
I can't really figure out the sizing of the Flint & Tinder one. On their website it says 'chest 39 is an M' . But then again, you use an M size, and you have a much larger chest. I'm 98cm, which is about 38,5" , and i'm also pretty slim at 65kg (143pounds) and 178cm tall. It doesn't really make sense for me to have the same size as you. I don't understand why they don't measure it properly, like most manufacturers, by the shoulders. I think i should get an S, but it's a gamble, considering it'll be an overseas shipping.
Yeah I think that they aren't providing the actual measurement, just saying if you have a chest of X inches you should buy Y size. The medium itself is more like a 43.5" from pit to put. It works for me bc I wanted a slightly snug fit, but I'd 100% go small if you are 98cm chest. Good luck!
Thursday wins laying for smaller guys, but my chest is 47" and their jacket only goes up to 49"...only thing I can layer that with is a tshirt 😄 flint and tinder wins in sizing I guess you can say.
Ahh that makes me so glad to hear. Really appreciate it and welcome aboard!! Lots of cool stuff planned for 2024. I'll keep doing boots and jackets, of course, because I love 'em. Also going to start doing more content on wrist watches (both expensive and value-focused) and some sneakers/dress shoes as the weather warms up.
Im 5’7 155lbs, which a 40.5 chest and broader shoulders. By thr measuring chart i should get thr M on F&T but my arms are short which makes me think j should get a Small?? Which would you recommend
Great question, Ronald. The sizing chart is pretty off, in my opinion. For example, I'm a 43.5-44" chest, 5'8.5", 188 lbs or so... and I wear a medium. It's a little snug, but perfectly wearable. I'd try small if you want it to be fitted at all. If you want it to be big so you can wear a sweater underneath, go M.
@@rockymtnstyle thanks man! Honestly not thinking of layering. I dont have much experience w jackets sincr i live in a warm climate, but im a M in t shirts. But yeah if youre 188lbs and it fits you its gonna br a but baggy on me probably
i'm on the edge of XL and L for the Thursday... If it doesn't fit snugly I'd go for the L. I would likely be wearing a flannel shirt under my jacket similar weight to yours in the video. I'm 5'8" and 190lb if that helps. Which size would you go for after wearing the L?
One of my favorite coats has enough room between the buttons that I can slip my hand between them to get to my phone in the internal pocket without having to unbutton. Can you reach the internal pocket on either of these jackets while it's buttoned up?
This is definitely the most unique question I've had! So - I just walked upstairs and tried. The Thursday, yes, I can reach in and get my phone. Since the Thursday only has 5 buttons my hand just fits. The F&T, with its 6 buttons more closely spaced, I cannot quite get my hand in. But if you had a small hand you could probably manage. Hope that helps! :)
Well that's embarrassing... Can't believe no one else brought that up! Sorry about that. 5'8.5 185-190 lbs. Not sure on shoulder measurements exactly, but they are thick. Lol. Thx for taking the time to let me know. I'll put the info in a pinned comment later today.
Dude, put the damn jacket details in the description so someone doesn't have to spend several minutes jumping around trying to find out about the size or color. It's mind numbingly frustrating when you're just trying to research or find basic info and multiple TH-camrs do this, so something that should take 2 minutes takes 20. Then it adds up and you're on the computer for an hour when it shouldn't have been necessary.
Great comparison. If it helps anyone, I own the F&T in small and medium. I have a 39 inch chest and 30 inch waist. The small is perfect over a t-shirt, but I can't layer it over a fleece without looking like a stuffed sausage. The medium is actually a big step up in size. Over a t-shirt I look like a kid in dad's jacket, but it works great over an insulating layer. Based on your video it sounds like Thursday's medium might fall right between the two, which would have probably been the better option for me, but I've had mine for years (small for 3, medium for 2) and they've held up great.
Thanks for that great info! I bet it'll help plenty of folks. 👍
I love my FnT but I like the way the Thursday looks on you better and the color looks good too
Thx man. Yeah I think the Thursday does look a bit better on me, too, after living with them through another fall/winter.
Thanks for this video and for adding your layering category. This is an important thing to know for me as I would layer. If Thursday dropped the price by even $20-$30, it would do a killing, I think. If for only $18 more you can get a famous thus cool version of this jacket, then the choice is obvious.
You are welcome! And I agree completely with your assessment.
Great review, Patrick! A waxed trucker jacket has been on my want list for a while. I can't tell you how many times I have gone to Huckberry's site to read reviews on Flint & Tinder's jacket. Then, Thursday decides to produce one....ahhhh...decisions decisions. I will have to watch this video again when the time comes for me to order one. And, I just might have to ask you some more detailed questions as well. Again, great job Patrick! 👏
Right on, brother! Thanks for watching. I certainly know the feeling of stalking Huckberry late at night, finger hovering over "Add to Cart." :) Feel free to reach out to me any time to ask questions. rockymtnstyle@gmail.com.
One quick side note: it is said that the FnT lining on the Hudson jacket comes from Abraham Moon which is an old UK made company. Note sure about the trucker but I have read that it was an American made lining. Unfortunately I can't find that source again.
Howdy! Yeah I could find no definitive source about the provenance of the interior lining. I'd assume US made.
Huckberry also offers a 10% military discount, doesn’t look like Thursday does.
Thanks for sharing and for your service!! I did not know but I'm glad I do now. Huckberry keeps impressing!
Fair Enough! Semper Fi!
For comparison - I'm about 5'8.5" tall, between 185 and 190 lbs in this video, and have pretty thick/beefy shoulders. Let me know if you have any sizing questions, or other questions! Thanks for watching!
Just bought the Thursday jacket in olive. This comparison was extremely helpful. Thank you sir
Happy to help and hope you enjoy it!
forgive me as i'm this freak in 2023 that never wears a t-shirt (as opposed to an undershirt) in public so your excellent overview helped point me toward the Thursday. great stuff. thanks.
Not a freak at all! Just someone who knows what they are all about! Glad it helped you out.
Thursday gets a point for having a store. I can try the jacket on next time I'm in NYC.
I guess if you are in the neighborhood that makes sense. 👍
Appreciate the feedback🙌
Any time! Was happy to pick up the jacket and I continue to wear it. Hoping to do a patina review in the future.
Thanks for the review. I will probably get another Flint and Tinder in the future but the Thursday looks like a solid option too.
Right on! You are welcome. Yes, both are solid options.
The two jackets seem very comparable with an almost insignificant price difference. I got the Thursday jacket because I prefer the cotton lining to the polyester or wool lining in North Florida. I started wearing waxed cotton motorcycle raingear in 1969 but the traditional British products have gotten a bit dear. Rugged stuff that benefits from rewaxing every year or so and looks like new if you turn the garment inside out and toss it in a dryer for 5 minutes.
Great comment. Thanks! Totally agree. And good tip on the inside/out for 5 minutes. I might try that.
Thanks! Food for thought. Like I've said before, I have to win the lottery. Thanks for the review.
Ha!! Well I hope you do!
You had me at layering. I often go with a t-shirt or a flannel shirt or a sweater. I'll take the sleeves on the Thursday jacket
It certainly does make a difference!
Excellent review and I really appreciate your attention to detail. I'm sure both jackets will be awesome. I've never had either in hand, but I'm just noticing that the majority of pictures that I see of the Thursday, is that the fabric appears shiny or wet. Perhaps that is their intent? Maybe will patina and dull as the jacket is worn.
Hey! Thanks for the comment and stopping by. It is way less wet looking in person and actually feels much dryer than the F&T believe it or not!
I really like your reviews. You need to start reviewing some denim.
Appreciate that! I like denim but don't feel like I am that smart on it so actually being value to folks. Ill give it some thought though. Thank you!
What a brilliant review. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for the kind words!
Considering they are almost the same price - as much as I like Thursday - I would still go with the Flint and Tinder jacket because it is made in the USA, whereas the Thursday jacket is not. So at that price, I am always going to go with the USA made item when the two things being compared are so similar otherwise.
Many are in the same camp as you! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the review! I’d love a follow up video with alternatives for some of the drawbacks. What is your favorite coat for windy weather? Or for warmth? Within the heritage space. Thank you!
Great suggestion, TCC! My top suggestion for windy weather right now would be the Proof Passport Field Jacket. I just tested that out for a video and got to put it through it's paces in the stiff wind of the eastern Colorado plains and it was impressive. Also, the Relwen Windzip jacker is a solid choice for a multitude of conditions. Might plan a vid on it... again, thanks for the suggestion! :)
My chest is 45" but I'm only 5'8". So I have to get an XL and the arms are usually long for me. The flint and tinder seems baggier towards the bottom of the jacket where the Thursday looks more slim fit. I need that slim fit otherwise I look like I'm a kid wearing my dad's jacket. But I WANT the F&T😢
I feel your pain, man! I have that same issue a lot. To be honest, if you know a decent tailor they can shorter the sleeves for you. My chest is 43.5" and I'm wearing the medium here. I bet you could get away with a large if you want it to be somewhat slim, and then the sleeves may not even be THAT long. You can always return it! :)
My fellow oddly shaped individual
I have the correct answer. Barbour. Thats who does waxed jackets the best. Bar.Bour.
Hah! Hard to argue that! What a great brand. Unfortunately, none of them fit me! Can't be 5'8" and stocky apparently. At least with the Ashby and Bedale, which I did buy and try and had to return. Any recommendations?
@@rockymtnstyle
I’m 5’8 170 with broad shoulders and a 40” chest. The Harrington waxed quilt lined jacket fits me well in a size Large. If you want a slimmer fit go with a Medium
I'm about 15 lbs heavier and a 42.5" chest or so. Losing weight slowly. If I can get down into the 170s consistently I think I'll try again. Really like their look. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great review once again. Thursday Quality goods will be my choice for a few reasons and i will explain. England makes very high quality wax canvas products and most of those quality brands prefer a dryer feeling wax.(idea for a little research & video topic)
Portugal have great craftmanship in all kinds of products not only clothes. I personally don't mind where it is made because i lived in Europe for half my life. I am jealous of the cool factor.
( The last of us )
Thanks, man! That's interesting info about the dryer wax. I hadn't realized that. It makes sense, especially if developing a "sick patina" isn't the main goal of the jacket. I can see the English brands going that direction. Agreed about Portugal and many other countries, great craftsman can certainly be found. I really appreciate your comment. Will certainly keep some of this in mind for the future.
I own a couple of leather jackets and boots from Thursday's and recently bought 2 flint and tinder wax trucker jackets.. and to be honest, you just can't go wrong with this 2 brands. the thursday field wax jacket is incredible.
@@paguetty You are right, Julio! I also have the Keanu Jacket and many boots. Both great brands!
You nailed one key thing for me. Where it's made. I've been wanting an Iron and Resin Scout jacket for about 8 or 9 months now. I haven't bought it because it's "imported" and I can't find where. My problem with that is they used to make it in the US for a lower price point, yes I understand inflation, but there's competition USA made at similar price points. So I'm buying nothing. I don't like the Flint and Tinder, Rogue Territory and the 3sixteen is sold out. Maybe next year.
I have a symmetry issue. If you have one bold front pocket it must have a second that matches. I also prefer the Type 3 fit is why Iron and Resin or 3Sixteen.
Thanks for the comment, Dark! Appreciate you taking the time to share.
I can understand the symmetry thing. And I agree, I do love a type 3 design. Just picked up a type 3 from Brave Star.
Hope you find something you love soon!
Thanks for this awesome video. I’ve subbed! I already had the flannel flint and tinder (moss green) and love it. Look forward to seeing you rewax it when needed. 👍
Thanks, Simon! Appreciate that very much. I think it'll be a late summer project for me to get ready for fall. After two seasons it certainly still has a good amount of wax but I might as well top up the tank!
Thursday interior lining is actually 100% cotton , considering waxed jackets aren’t that breathable, i would prefer a cotton lining instead a polyester one
Good to hear!
The point system is nice but I can care less about certain categories…Great review though and nice of you to put this comparison. 👍
Thanks, Oscar. What you say makes sense. I just wanted to cover as much as possible. Thanks again for dropping a comment!
I ordered mine in November and had the same annoyances (if we can call that) as you. I very much like the jacket, one of my complaints would be just an issue with it being a trucker as I wish the sleeves were shorter, but some quality of life touches would have been nice. I wish the front pockets were lined and I wish that it was easier to layer. When wearing this jacket, I would normally be wearing a hoodie and most of my hoodies, except for 1 (makes me want to get a zip up version of that same hoodie because of it), will bunch up unless I hold on to the cuff of the sleeves as I slide my arms through. This is a minor inconvenience but still something that I dont want to conciously be thinking about when just trying to walk out the door. Also, due to that, often times I need to readjust my sleeves underneath the jacket otherwise it would inhibit motion and comfort at my elbows. This was most noticeably an issue with my American Giant Classic Hoodie. Regarding the lined pockets, they really are only good for blocking the wind and maybe putting small items for temporary storage. Often, I would instinctively put my hands into those pockets looking for a soft place for my hands to comfortable, while my face is being tortured by New York winter winds, but was left disappointed. Do you think these are things that a tailor could potentially resolve? Atleast in regards to the sleeve length and pockets? I don't know how that would affect the quality of the canvas and wax though. Additionally, another complaint, which is a lot more opinionative, is that I wish that the inner flannel lining was more color neutral. I mostly wear blacks and greys, which is why I chose the coal option, but if the lining is exposed via the torso or if I want to roll up my sleeves then I have yellow stripes being visible that throws off the outfit. That last complaint probably isnt that big deal but I feel like maybe matching the liner to the color of the jacket would have made a HUGE difference in terms of perceived attention to detail and I would enjoy this jacket SO much more. There have been so many times in which I am wearing the jacket inside and taking it off wasnt a viable option but didnt want to roll up the sleeves or cuffs due to the yellow stripes.
Hey man! Appreciate you sharing your experience. To answer your first question, I've always heard that a good tailor can do anything for the right price. If you were just looking for something soft to be sewn in that might be doable, but making them any larger to accommodate more stuff would probably be way more trouble than its worth.
I agree with you on the lining color. I think perhaps they might have wanted a distinctive feature so if someone saw it they'd know it's a F&T. But who knows?! Cheers, mate!
Easily the best review of both Jackets, I tip the hat good sir.
Wow, thank you! That's a very kind thing to say. I was proud of this video so I'm happy it was helpful.
This is really what I really want months ago. Thank you for making this video. I like the Thursday design better but they got the inside pocket on the right side and small, which make me decide not to buying it.
I totally agree! That pocket bugs me. Thanks for watching, Frank!
@@rockymtnstyle You're welcome🙂
Thanks for the solid review... I just got my second flint and tinder.
I have to compliment you on the thoroughness of your review and the detail you provided in every category. You confirmed my suspicions that the F&T is a better jacket. Sizing question, I’m 62 years old, about 6’3” 205 pounds, 44 chest with average torso and longer arms. I plan on wearing with a t shirt but would like the option to layer over a sweater or long sleeve shirt. Most jackets in a large are tight in the shoulders and narrow in the waist for me so I’m thinking probably Xl. Only concern is that the XL will be boxy. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Hey Slip! Appreciate the compliment and thanks for taking the time to watch.
My chest is about 44" also. Given you're much taller than me and only 18lbs heavier, I actually think a large might work for chest/shoulders. The only potential issue will be the sleeves being a bit short I'd think, because for me, the large (wool-lined) I have only has about 1.5" extra length on the sleeves. So that leads me to an XL. It will certainly be loose, but I don't think it will be too boxy. The shoulders on all are narrow and there is a straight silhouette so you should be good. And if you want to layer over a swear or L/S shirt, I'd 100% try out the XL. Hope that helps and hope it works if you pick one up!
@@rockymtnstyle Appreciate the response and feedback. I’m going to try the large based on your suggestion and figure I can always exchange if I need to size up. I know Huckberry’s return process is top notch.
Kudos to the vid overall as this is my first time seeing this channel. My only question is why didn’t you try on the jackets so we can see how they look?
Hey, Bran! Welcome and thank you! And you know what... that's a good question. Not sure to be honest! At that point I was pretty new to the channel game and pretty busy with life so I probably didn't plan the video out as well as I should have. Believe I do have a few other videos of me wearing the items, but that's for bringing it to my attention! I"m about to start some new jacket content for this fall/winter and I'll make sure to have a ton of try on footage.
Would you call the “Dark Olive” brown?
It's not far off, but in the right light it does have a noticeable earthy green cast.
Excellent detailed comparison! Which one do you find more comfortable after breaking them both in? Im leaning towards the Thursday since it has lined pockets.
Thank you, Harsha! Overall I think the F&T is better for me and how I normally wear these jackets, which is over a t-shirt on a not-too-cold day. However, if I'm wearing a long-sleeved shirt underneath, I prefer the Thursday since it has the smoother interior sleeve lining which makes it much more comfortable in that one situation. Both are great, though! Hope that helps!
@@rockymtnstyle Thank you!
I wish they did a 4xl...
Ahh yeah - sorry bro!
Any chance you know how the fit compares to the Rogue Territory supply lined Ridgeline in Large?
Sorry, Kenneth. Never touched the RT in person. Appreciate the comment, though.
Great review! If you ever get a chance, check out and compare/contrast the Filson Short Lined Cruiser and the Freenote Cloth Riders jackets. That would be a good one!
Thanks! And I'll put that on this idea list for the future!
What does flannel lining feel like? I've never had a jacket with that... and how warm does the Thursday one keep you? Good enough for -10-15?
Hey, Andrew! The flannel-lining on both feels similar, and that is to say they feel like a worn-in t-shirt. Pretty comfy to be honest. If you mean -10 to -15 C, yes, I think either jacket could handle that as long as your base layer wasn't a t-shirt...but it's pushing it. If you mean -10 to -15 F, nope, I wouldn't wear either that low. Cheers, mate!
I have the thursday and i wore a t shirt and champion crew neck sweater and spent an hour outside in -14C fairly windy Canadian evening and it was not very warm
If you had to choose 1 jacket, which would you choose?
The F&T. For these jackets im a fan of wearing over a t-shirt and the softer sleeves inside the F&T take the cake for my most common use.
@@rockymtnstyle I do like how the F and T is fully blanket lined. I have and Iron and Resin Scout that has satin lined sleeves, that I am OK with, but prefer the full blanket lining. I was considering grabbing a Thursday to compare all 3 jackets. Thanks for the reply.
@@jeffgrantMEDIA Any time, Jeff!
@@rockymtnstyle By the way, I really dig your content. I've checked out a bunch of your videos. You're the only one with anything on the Thursday jacket. Keep up the great content.
@@jeffgrantMEDIA I really appreciate that! Trying to get better and better. And quite surprising on the Thursday jacket. I knew I'd be first but given the popularity of waxed jackets I'd have thought a few more may have popped up.
I can't really figure out the sizing of the Flint & Tinder one. On their website it says 'chest 39 is an M' . But then again, you use an M size, and you have a much larger chest. I'm 98cm, which is about 38,5" , and i'm also pretty slim at 65kg (143pounds) and 178cm tall. It doesn't really make sense for me to have the same size as you. I don't understand why they don't measure it properly, like most manufacturers, by the shoulders. I think i should get an S, but it's a gamble, considering it'll be an overseas shipping.
Yeah I think that they aren't providing the actual measurement, just saying if you have a chest of X inches you should buy Y size. The medium itself is more like a 43.5" from pit to put. It works for me bc I wanted a slightly snug fit, but I'd 100% go small if you are 98cm chest. Good luck!
Thursday wins laying for smaller guys, but my chest is 47" and their jacket only goes up to 49"...only thing I can layer that with is a tshirt 😄 flint and tinder wins in sizing I guess you can say.
Great point and thanks for taking the time to drop a comment! People definitely read these for help just like this. 👍
@rockymtnstyle Thanks, just found your channel...I like it👍🏾
Ahh that makes me so glad to hear. Really appreciate it and welcome aboard!! Lots of cool stuff planned for 2024. I'll keep doing boots and jackets, of course, because I love 'em. Also going to start doing more content on wrist watches (both expensive and value-focused) and some sneakers/dress shoes as the weather warms up.
@rockymtnstyle Everything I'm into. Can't wait to check those topics out. I will stay tuned 🙂
I'm thinking about the iron and resin scout
I've heard it's great. I'll be picking up some sort of IR jacket at the end of the summer to test out next fall.
Im 5’7 155lbs, which a 40.5 chest and broader shoulders. By thr measuring chart i should get thr M on F&T but my arms are short which makes me think j should get a Small?? Which would you recommend
Great question, Ronald. The sizing chart is pretty off, in my opinion. For example, I'm a 43.5-44" chest, 5'8.5", 188 lbs or so... and I wear a medium. It's a little snug, but perfectly wearable. I'd try small if you want it to be fitted at all. If you want it to be big so you can wear a sweater underneath, go M.
@@rockymtnstyle thanks man! Honestly not thinking of layering. I dont have much experience w jackets sincr i live in a warm climate, but im a M in t shirts. But yeah if youre 188lbs and it fits you its gonna br a but baggy on me probably
Agree! If you pick one up lemme know how it goes!
i'm on the edge of XL and L for the Thursday... If it doesn't fit snugly I'd go for the L. I would likely be wearing a flannel shirt under my jacket similar weight to yours in the video. I'm 5'8" and 190lb if that helps. Which size would you go for after wearing the L?
Good question! For your size and use, the L should be great. Id only go XL if u wanted TONS of room.
@@rockymtnstyle much appreciated
One of my favorite coats has enough room between the buttons that I can slip my hand between them to get to my phone in the internal pocket without having to unbutton. Can you reach the internal pocket on either of these jackets while it's buttoned up?
This is definitely the most unique question I've had!
So - I just walked upstairs and tried. The Thursday, yes, I can reach in and get my phone. Since the Thursday only has 5 buttons my hand just fits. The F&T, with its 6 buttons more closely spaced, I cannot quite get my hand in. But if you had a small hand you could probably manage.
Hope that helps! :)
@@rockymtnstyle Ha excellent. Thanks for the info!
Dude u did so much work with this video but u never tell us your weight or shoulder size….without knowing this anything u say about fit is useless!
Well that's embarrassing... Can't believe no one else brought that up! Sorry about that. 5'8.5 185-190 lbs. Not sure on shoulder measurements exactly, but they are thick. Lol. Thx for taking the time to let me know. I'll put the info in a pinned comment later today.
And after all of this all you had to do is try them on and let us see how they look in person, but no, we are no smarter then when we started
You win some, you lose some. Did so many other videos wearing them I guess I just forgot to include that footage in this particular one.
How tall are you for reference
5'8.5"
Watched this video for 5 minutes and was bored! So in this category it's "a push"! Get a life bro!
Thanks!! I'll go look for one! Any suggestions on where to look?
Dude, put the damn jacket details in the description so someone doesn't have to spend several minutes jumping around trying to find out about the size or color. It's mind numbingly frustrating when you're just trying to research or find basic info and multiple TH-camrs do this, so something that should take 2 minutes takes 20. Then it adds up and you're on the computer for an hour when it shouldn't have been necessary.