@@Zrich98then tell me why no airbus plane has been ever been grounded and crashed twice for exactly the same causes, and before you call me a fanboy, i know that all airbus plane has crashed many times but not for the exactly same cause, not like the 737MAX
I've gone transatlantic on a MAX 8 (Norwegian, EDI-SWF and return, November 2017) and it was surprisingly comfortable, but let's be honest: Airbus has got this one
I've been on both but never noticed much difference. I'm 6ft'1 to be exact but I find the 737 more comfortable due to more legroom than the 320 otherwise all other dimensions are quite literally equally Parred.
Not sure if leaving out the A321LR and XLR is right? The LR is already flying and the XLR started test flying and as it seems the airlines love the 321XLR ....
@@EvanAviator They don't compete with the 737 because 737 has nothing in its family that can compete with them; thanks for its 40 years old airframe design. The A321LR and A321XLR are in fact in direct competition with the 737 series but are currently uncontested by Boeing so far, as Boeing's NMA project is still on the drawing-board
@@jahangiryounus6674 First of all, the 737 is older than 40 years. It's the Airbus airframe that's nearly 40 years old, which is to say, both airframes are old. However, the 737 that's flying today is a much more refined aircraft than the one that flew in 1967. Also, the A321 is not mentioned in this video because Boeing doesn't have a new aircraft to compare it to other than the Max-10. Since the Max-10 is not yet in service, the proper aircraft to compare are the Max 8 and 9 to the A320. The A321 is better compared to a 757, and that's not a fair fight.
I agree it should have been mentioned, while Boeing has nothing to compete, fleet commonality gives airlines a reason to consider smaller members of the LR/XLR family.
Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it setn a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html
Who told you that and are sure about that? Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it setn a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html People need to checks the facts! Reply cabottaxi cabottaxi 7 months ago
I've been flying for over fifty years. The A320neo is simply a delightful aircraft to fly on. I've flown on 737-ngs. However, I do not recall ever being on a 737 Max.
Everyone knew that the 737 NG would be last update for the 737 family and a new clean-sheet offering would replace it. Everyone except the quarter-to-quarter bean counters running Boeing that is.
But then Boeing said: no, let's make another 737, but unsafe and unreliable lol 😂 Result: 737 reputation completely RUINED (just like what happened with the old DC 10) 😂
I'll go with Airbus any day. Innovation in plane design is another aspect you should take into account. The 737 as a base is TWENTY years older than the A320. You can't forget that each new model is only marginally different from the base, just think of the engine issue that lead to the MCAS having to be added to the 737. Yes, the 737 MAX might be safe, but innovation can only take you so far. Fundamental design choices CAN'T be changed down the road with a plane (without changing the type rating and the consequences that brings with it). I'm not saying the A320 is a completely up to date plane either, any 35 year old base wouldn't be, but i'm saying the issues the MAX has are issues that didn't have to be, just because they wanted to make "a quick buck" by upgrading the 737 one more time, when they REALLY shouldn't have.
@@billybill6604 I don't know if an A350 is quieter than a Dreamliner, but I know that the Dreamliner is more innovative. And, although the two aircraft are constantly compared, the A350 is a larger aircraft. Even an A350-900 is larger than a 787-10, the the A350 is compared to a 787 because of the mostly composite construction, and are both used for similar purposes. However the Dreamliner is more cost effective for airlines, which is why it outsells the A350 almost 2 to 1.
@@sainnt I don't see the 787 as more innovative than the A350. At all. The problem with 787 is that it is ridden with problems. They are piling up at boeing
@@billybill6604 That's clear Airbus bias. The aircraft has been flying for 10 years already and faced 2; major problems; lithium batteries and Trent 1000; engines, 2; items not even made by Boeing. Currently issues with quality are nothing but the FAA grasping straws. Aircraft that's already been delivered were never recalled. There's nothing wrong with the Dreamliner.
I disagree. I usually also prefer Boeing products but I think the max looks stunning. However im torn on the decision between the max and the neo and the only thing holding the neo back for me is the side view look of it
Why don't you check the facts because it just might save your life! Who told you that and are sure about that? Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it set a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html Over 1500 people have been killed flying on the A320! People need to checks the facts! Have you been to lie about the facts and how Airbus A320 and family have killed over 1500 people and had allot more crashes. I wish ppeople would read the truth about and how the A320's have a huge amout of crashes? Tsk, tsk, tsk Airbus lies so much!
Brillant video! As both a fan of Boeing and Airbus this is really down the line. I work at an airline that has both 737, and A320 family. The turn around is a bit faster with the B737 and that means better revenue. I love both families, and both do a great job. Great job Long Haul
The experience-based comment on turn around time is a useful tidbit of information. Could you, or anybody, come up with possible explanations for the difference? Is the MAX easier to clean, or unload people and/or baggage, or refuel?
@@fbkintanar it’s lower to the ground and was designed in a time where ground vehicles were not as present as they are and is therefore more versatile - a armchair idiot (me)
Gotta say, as a mechanic having worked on both. Even ignoring Boeing’s MCAS tragedy, the 737 Max doesn’t hold a candle to the 320Neo’s. The 737 Max still just feels like an upgraded version of a 60 year old airplane while the Neo manages to feel like a brand new airplane
Nah the a320 neo is not really different from the a320ceo, it is just an upgraded version of an existing plane just as the max is an upgraded version of the 737ng.
exactly, the A320 was already modern enough it didn't need the change, the 737 max was a desperate update to a plane that should've been retired 20 years ago@@Hk-uw8my
If Airbus doesnt make a huge blunder and china wont shake up the game too much, I can imagine a downward trend for Boeing. As they have to invest into "fixing" the 737 desaster and their failed foresight in marketdemands (sustainablility f.e.), Airbus gets again a huge headstart in the development of the next Generation.
Both A319NEo and 737-7 are niche aircraft and have poor sales and prospects. Whether A320NEO is better than 737-8 is debatable, but the solid fact is that A321NEO in its 3 variants soundly outsells 737-9&10 3 to 1. The yawning difference will spread further as time passes, and Boeing so far has not announced a MAX replacement.
The 737-7 has way more orders than the A319, and those numbers will only increase when the plane is in service. The A319 has proven to be a poor seller because the A220-300 makes more sense, so the Max 7 will be much more successful.
@@sainnt well, even if more it is still a very modest number for 737-7 as well, and for essentially 4 airlines. Had Southwest not insisted a lot for their own reasons, the version would not have seen the light of day. Both are essentially cut and shut versions, hence they have too big wings and engines for their size. This results in excellent field performance, good for high and/or hot airports (not a particularly needed feature in the market) and their downside is that they have poorer economics than their respective siblings. Niche airplanes.
@@luisdestefano6056 Airbus has a total of 73 A319 orders. Boeing has a total of 234 Max 7. That's like calling the A380 niche aircraft. The A319 is only niche because it makes more sense for an Airbus customer to buy the A220-300 instead. Boeing will always sell more Max 7 because they don't have regional aircraft to compete with the A220, but the Max 7 makes way more sense to an airline than an A319.
@@sainnt So why bother with an obsolete 737-7 when you can get a superior A220-300? And if you need something bigger, with more range, then buy a A32xNEO.
Oh yes! The Ultimate Battle! A320 neo VS 737 MAX! Personally I prefer the A320 neo because it's much better and a lot safer than the 737 MAX and it's more fuel efficient and my favorite narrowbody aircraft alongside with the A220 300
I would absolutely not be reassured about MAX fixes. Boeing has had huge issues with quality over the last decade at least. See also the 787, 777X and so on. I also don't see any substantial better specs on the 737. In fact, the video does its best to be dismissive of any Airbus advantages.
But the 737 max is better than the a320 on paper. It's true. The a320 is also cheaper but I think the 321xlr and LR will give AB a much larger advantage as well. Considering airbus's large backlog , the 737 will continue to get more orders for customers not willing to wait longer for the a320. Nothing dismissive . All facts
The MAX's crashes are due to pilot error. Granted good training for the pilots, it should have been fine. The MAX is definitely a better, safer, and cheaper aircraft than any airbus garbage.
Essentially the 737 hails back to the 727 cockpit and even the 707, with tweaks, fixes and extensions. By contrast the A320 is a much more contemporary design. My money is certainly on Airbus with a far better design and upgrade potential. The 737 is at the end of life.
Interesting video, but I'd say largely flawed. The single biggest cost to airlines is fuel over an aircraft's life not the upfront cost. It doesn't matter if a 737 can carry X passengers a further Ynm if it uses more fuel to do that. According to Wikipedia (I know, probably questionable, but the intent stands), the A320neo has a fuel efficiency per seat of 2.25 litres / km and the 737 MAX 9 has 2.28... that's a 1.3% difference which might not seem much but is actually enormous in the aviation industry. Note that the addition of Sharklets on the A320neo gave a 3-4% fuel burn saving, and only up to that much on flights with long cruise segments! It's way more complicated than this as these numbers are likely assuming a full cabin, full fuel tanks and maximum ranges, airline operations obviously very rarely meet all 3 of these criteria. Airlines will run all the very complicated calculations and find out what suits their network best to even achieve a fraction of a percentage in fuel savings. Paying slightly more for an aircraft you want will pay for itself in the long run in fuel savings.
An issue affecting the A320s that could potentially drive sales to Boeing is the ongoing problem with the Pratt PW1100G engines powering the Airbus. A flaw in the powdered metal used to make the high-pressure turbine discs could lead to cracks and uncontained failures. This led to the grounding of many aircraft to disassemble and inspect the engine cores. While the A320 is available with a choice of engines from Pratt & Whitney or CFM, the 737 only flies with the LEAP engine by CFM.
A similar problem even worse found on PW4000-powered Boeing 777s and EA GP7200 powered A380s. United Airlines are on the edge of planning to phase out their PW powered 777-200/200ERs and keep the GE90 powered ones
I'm pretty sure that this video was made based on information from Wikipedia especially seating capacity. Because in real life, I don't know if there is A320NEO with 195 seats. Mostly especially low-cost carriers would go with 186 seats single class config (EasyJet, Frontier, AirAsia, IndiGo). On the other hand, you mentioned only 178 seats which described in Wiki as 2-class config not a single class config which mostly 189 seats and up to 210 seats for MAX-200. The MAX-9 has much larger airframe and significantly carry more passenger in single class config than A320NEO, so I don't think they could be compared.
I traveled in both, both planes were new or max 2 years old. I find the 737 max of Turkish Airlines much smoother and quiter as the A320neo also from Turkish Airlines as a pasenger.
I also flew with TK A321neo and the Max 8 but I have the opposite experience. the max in my opinion was noisier... None of them was smooth because it were turbulent flights
Great video really enjoyed but I do think a320neo is a winner e.g a321xlr and a320neo due to range and efficiency but b737max is a great competitor but it didn't have a great start.both aircraft manufacturers did a great job. Thanks for the video
@@marveljayden The Air France one had 3 fatalities, and happened 1988, which was AGES ago... Both Qantas Flight 32 and 72 had no fatalities, one of them didn't even result in any injuries. But the Alaska Airlines one happened 2024, not 1988, 2008 or 2010. Another thing is the MCAS issue whichhappened in 2018 and 2019, resulting in way more fatalities while having a flight less, and they happened VERY recenly unnlike the Air France one which had 3 fatalities... You're really just showing how safe Airbus is, and putting Boeing in a worse place, the opposite of what you intended.
For people saying "737 Max airframe is old and unsafe" The software is what made it unsafe, not the 60 years old airframe, airlines don't care how old the airframe is, as long as it gets upgraded along with technological development in the aviation industry, as is the case for A320 and 737. MCAS's purpose was to change the flight characteristics and control surface handling to make it similar to 737NG as a solution for engine placement problems. Technically the 737 Max is flyable without an MCAS system, but it was installed for training cost cuts, and somehow Boeing decided to hide the system back then. *Old is gold* but that being said everything has its end. 737 Max family would be the last ever 737 generation Boeing has developed, and it's time for Boeing to develop a new clean sheet narrowbody jet "NMA".
The new big and heavy engine in the old airplane is unsafe. Boeing should redesign the airfame to fit the new engine. Hell No...they want quick bucks and comes out MCAS to prevent the natural tilt up of the plane when extra boost is applied on the engine.
@@yours_sincerely48 You seem to be ignoring the fact that Boeing didn't tell the pilot about MCAS when the incidents could've been avoided. The causes aren't mainly in the engine placement or the natural pitch-up behavior in 737 Max at all, but flight characteristics that had to be changed to make it easier to fly for sake of cutting costs for Boeing customers. Blame Boeing for hiding a poorly programmed software, not the 737 Max itself. If it's not safe right now, FAA and EASA wouldn't have cleared it to fly in US/EU airspaces in the first place. I prefer listening to aviation experts, not average unknowledgeable people. *I'm still flying this thing anyway*
I wouldn't say it's unsafe, it is old, but not unsafe at face value. What they did to get away with not having to modify it, THAT is the sin in this story. It's got a name: MCAS!!! I've flown in the 737 plenty of times, and it's a perfectly fine plane, but the MCAS is a system that was handled (very) poorly, in every way! It's not even that MCAS is a bad system, it's the way they implemented it, plain and simple.
Southwest is the reason for the crashes. They demanded the MAX feeling of handling to the pilots match the NG models. As such, the had to put in the systems that modified the feel. This was, however, never communicated to the other airlines and as a result that computer equipment/programming was an unspoken "secret" that caused the crashes. That blood is on WN's head. But Boeing is the one paying the price for it.
@@AquariusTurtle The design of the MAX is a flaw! Boeing should redesign the airfame to fit the new engine however greed came upon them using a big heavy engine in an old airframe but add in A Crutch to stabilise the flight.
Having your birds grounded for weeks or months might skew the cost calculation rather heavily. On Boeings side we have had mandatory groundings for 737, 777 and 787. Will have to ask around for Airbus groundings
Why don't you check the facts because it just might save your life! Who told you that and are sure about that? Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it set a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html Over 1500 people have been killed flying on the A320! People need to checks the facts! Have you been to lie about the facts and how Airbus A320 and family have killed over 1500 people and had allot more crashes. I wish ppeople would read the truth about and how the A320's have a huge amout of crashes? Tsk, tsk, tsk Airbus lies so much! It apparent Airbus pays off crooked Europeans while Boeing is honestly run company and thats why Airbus has so many crashes!!!
What about airframe life? When the 320 series first started flying in the US, a friend who worked for the FAA said the airframes would not last as long as Boeing's.
How can the a320 neo carry more passengers than the 737 max 9, the max 9 is 5 metres longer. You also looked at the max single class pax for the A320 neo and the maximum 2 class paxs for the 737. The 737 max 9 carries 13 more pax at 2 class config.
I am a Boeing fan, but have had good and bad flights from both families of aircraft. Boeing has to eat a lot of humble pie and regain the trust of the flying public, airlines, and government regulators. I know they are up to the task! Also, there is so much demand that Airbus couldn't fulfill every order, if every 737 customer ditched Boeing. I would advise the Airbus CEO to be careful before increasing A320 family production. He could end up hurting the Airbus image, harming contractors/vendors, and his own Max crisis. With global supply shortages, I think he plans are too ambitious.
I have no faith in Boeing. It's no longer an engineering company run by engineers. It's run by bean counters who put a dollar value on lives. As long as Boeing is run by financial people and MBAs, they're screwed. These kinds of people do not have moral or ethical values. They are only smart enough to maximize profit for themselves at the expense of everyone else.
??? Production only start when customer put out their purchase order. Why airbus need to be wary. You a symphathizer for Boeing? Don't because they make tons of money for the past decade monopolised the world with boeing plane.
@@yours_sincerely48 So all you look at is money? What about all the lives that pursuit of money has claimed? Maybe you should instead look at all the people who were killed by it.
@@yours_sincerely48 Airbus has a massive backlog and I read management is interested in increasing production to make deliveries sooner. This could lead to future production delays due to increased pressure on suppliers etc. I admit I am a Boeing fan, but genuinely feel they need to regain the worlds trust!
Nothing like the past crashes? Famous last words, the DC-9 still crashed after it was "fixed". Only time will tell if the MAX is safe or even if the 7 and 10 get certified at this point.
4:02 I don't understand how the A320 NEO has a higher capacity than the Max 8 and 9 because the two maxes are longer than then Neo. The max 8 is 1 meter longer than the A320 Neo while the Max 9 is 5 meters longer than the A320 Neo so it doesn't make any sense
How I miss the 757-200. As a passenger I like the 737-600 and -800 but would never willing fly on a Max. Another area of concern for me as a passenger is the emergency evacuation time for the long fuselage 737 versions, the lessons of the BA 737 Manchester Airport Disaster were quietly forgotten. I also wonder if the so called "Miracle on the Hudson" would have had quite such a happy outcome if the aircraft was a 737.
If Sully was the pilot, it would have been fine. If the Lyon Air or Ethiopian Air Max pilots, then no, they would have tried to return to LGA or went for TEB. Not the same outcome…..
You can't make that statement with all honesty that you did with the 737 being out the 319 because of its 100 mile great range being more fuel efficient WITHOUT knowing its fuel capacity for that range and comparing that as well. Plus, as you point out...the Airbus has 7 more seats which, again as you state, increases weight and thus reduces range if the fuel to move that additional weight isn't factored in to the totals. To say the 737 is more fuel efficient is a total based on those parameters is disingenuine. Where Airbus was looking with the A321neo/XLR is the direct replacement for the aging 757 fleet and the airlines who have, had or still desire that capacity and range (TATL is where the ship found its niche on long thin routes after its discontinuation) Airbus wants that market. What's funny about the total series sales for the two...the Boeing was launched in the 60s and had nigh on 20 years of advance production time over the Airbus. In fact, it was flying in airline service for almost a decade before Airbus even existed. So I'd say Airbus has done on heck of a job to have caught up in a much shorter production time. As a former ramp rat and as a passenger, while I am a Boeing fan for it being a US product...you cannot beat the Airbus for comfort and ride as well as the qualities it has on the ramp. I HATED seeing a damn 737 on the schedule. Give me the Bombardier regionals, the Douglas/McDonnell Douglas T-tails and the Airbus' all day long. I hated the 737 if I was anything other than the ramp boss and not actively having to work on it. Bottom line...both are great products regardless of whether a person is a Boeing or Airbus person. Companies have such a complex process for decision making, but it goes well beyond the numbers and in some cases, nationalism plays a roll as well. In the end, how each manufacturer manages to do it, I really don't know. Each airline wants its own specs and tells the builders what they want and what Ryanair and Southwest want may not line up with someone else's need...but who ultimately will the designers listen to? Their sales department. He who has the biggest interest will get most of what they want ultimately and everyone will have to adjust. That's why the MAX had the issues it has. Southwest Airlines is the cause of that. 100% on the shoulders of them. They demanded the commonality for the pilots and as such, to make the MAX feel like it flies like the NG, they had to put systems in that changed the feel of the plane for them. Problem was, they didn't tell the other airlines of this feature and and as result, the crashes because the system for Southwest was a unspoken "secret."
Boeing should've told all of the airlines operating the 737 MAX about MCAS. It was incredibly foolish and irresponsible of them not to, as MCAS had the potential to cause a plane crash if the sensor it relied on was faulty. It also only relied on 1 sensor, instead of 3, which would've likely prevented both crashes from occuring.
You can’t trust Netflix. Every time an election anywhere spews out a vote they don’t like, they release documentaries with disinformation. It’s about the most biased and corrupt source you can quote
Do you really think that the Boeing cabin is better than the Airbus? You only have to look at the modern joystick control on the A320 to see that it is better than the outdated rudder system used on the 737.
@@LordCommander1 Well then. Airbus has had over 1000 fatalities, Boeing has made way more planes than airbus with some in an era where computer technology and safety features DIDN'T EXIST!!! They are in the wrong with MCAS, but the whole entire company is not made up of criminals. Also, the 747 was incredibly reliable, sure it had a few incidents before computers, but what about United 811? China 006? They sustained incredible damage and the structural integrity of the plane was so strong that the planes managed to land safely
What about resale value? When 10 years plane goes on sale, how much do you get for B737 and how much for A320 with similar cycle? No one talks about that, and 10 year old well maintaned plane is not cheap.
I've been on a321 before and it's super quite, since then I loved the a320 family, especially the neo. considering it was 2 years older than the 737 max family and has no crashes at all, I prefer the A320 family much more than the 737 max😂
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe - The A319neo is similar to the B737-7, the A320neo is similar to the B737-8 and the A321neo is similar to the B737-9/10. Boeing has no product similar to the A321lr/xlr.
@@chrismckellar9350 I guess on the range no. But the xlr is like the 757 lite is not a complete replacement for the 757 but it’s closest thing. That is why Boeing is going for the MMA to be a replacement for the 757 and 767 size aircraft.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe - Don't forget Airbus has designs for the stretch version of the A321neo dubbed the 'A322' Airbus is waiting to what Boeing is going to do with their NMA/B797.
as a boeing fan i can't defend 737 here. its obvius that A320 had decent edge over 737 family. but 737 still remain my personal favourite. i just like the design of 737 Max much more than A320 Neo. although 737 Max isn't competitive enough to fight A320 Neo, boeing still have some edge when it comes to freighter variant which A320 series lacks. the sales in this category isn't large though. Edit: someone in my reply told me that airbus had freighter variant of A320 so that's a good thing! Finally airbus started to catch up to boeing in freighter market but airbus still needs long way to go to challenge boeing in this segment👍
Actually, Qantas received an A321-200P2F last year, and development and certification for the A320-200P2F is under way, so your statement that the A320 family has no freighter variant is no longer accurate, though it is understandable why you would think that, as the A320/A321P2F program is still rather recent.
@@Arkan_Fadhila You're welcome. Regarding more Airbus freighters, the A350F, (based off the A350-1000), is expected to enter service starting in 2025. It would compete with the 777F and join Airbus's other freighters: The A320-200P2F, A321-200P2F, A330-200F, A330-200P2F, and A330-300P2F.
Obviously I prefer the A320neo, it is so much easier to fly than the 737 MAX. In fact, the A320neo only had 1 hull loss out of nearly 4,000 of them being delivered to airlines. My dad used to work with both Boeing and Airbus aircraft and he said the A320 is better, it is higher off the ground so you don’t bump your head like with a 737.
Airbus fans here are talking as if they decide which planes their airlines purchases. Both the planes are quiet and comfortable. I really like their interiors too. Love both Airbus and Boeing.
@@caspervantieghem3192 Well you’ve got to look at the whole A320 family for comparison they looked at the all of the max family they failed to mention A321LR and A321XLR which the XLR already has 450 orders without being in service and the industry has spoken by favoring the a320 by having more sales then the 737 even though it was released decades later im not being a fan boy but looking at the fact that the market suggest otherwise
Funny how things change in a year isn’t it. Turns out the Max did not recover after the 2 crashes which killed 346 people, as our narrator suggested they might. Well it did recover, they sorted out the MCAS., which wanted to point the nose of the plane towards the ground at 500 miles an hour, but then only to have the doors fall off. And then it turns out that’s not the only quality issue. There are multiple things that need tackling. So it’s going to be a difficult road for the Max family, at least for the next few months, if not a couple of years. They will still keep customers though. Ryanair and others will exact a price for their loyalty, as they already have done. it was in Boeings’ darkest hour , when the Max 8 was grounded , that Michael O’Leary went to order 100 or so aircraft. He knows when a bargain is available. The same thing will happen here . Those people who stick with the Max, will get them at a big discount assuming they get the plane sorted, They will save a big chunk of money. In the end, there is no sentiment in business. If a bad safety record means the unit prices lower, there will be people who will happily take that . As long As the travelling public are not too well informed. Whether the travelling general public will forgive the Max series, remains to be seen . As we know, most regular people have no idea what kind of aircraft they are flying on. If it stays that way, eventually the Max might get sorted and make money . But if the general public take more of an interest and more importantly, start asking which aircraft they are likely to be travelling on and vote against the Max with their wallets, the Max and therefore Boeing could have big trouble. Honestly though, bearing in mind the two Max 8 crashes because of a design flaw, it didn’t stop people flying on the Max then, so why should a door falling off do anything different. Ethiopian have ordered a new Max even though they lost one in the crash! Though we don’t know what the deal is , it could be a freebie or massively discounted from Boeing. I do wonder what pilots and crew think. In an organisation like Ryanair or Southwest, who have no choice but to fly the Max. I wonder if there’s any chance of a rebellion because of safety concerns ? If there are more jobs than pilots, could some of them decide not to work for an airline that flys the Max ? But if you have too many pilots chasing fewer jobs, that’s much less likely to happen. The Max still has thousands of orders and even if Airlines cancelled and went to Airbus they would be right at the back of the queue, so Boeing will always have customers for this aircraft family , as long as there are people who will fly on it , and they need to get it right. Me? No. They’ve shown they can’t be trusted. Even after two death crashes, they still didn’t learn the lesson. I have no desire to encourage them by flying on one of these things.
The A320 is better as the cabin is wider compare to the Boeing. No doubt it is only a few inches but this inches translate to a s few inches on your seat width. Further you find the cabin a bit roomier than Boeing. Same thing when you compare B787 Vs A350.
I took a poll of 50 of my contacts, all frequent business travellers. Of these 50, 37 (including me), have decided never to fly on a Boeing 737 Max - of any variant. This plane is a flawed design, built badly with substandard quality control. It’s a death trap and the Max program should be scrapped altogether.
Kinda crazy how the A320 family has nearly the same amount of sales as the 737 and Boeing had a 20 or so year advantage. I’m a huge avgeek and love both companies but it’s kinda obvious Airbus has the edge here. Look at the numbers they don’t lie 4000 compared to 8000 orders it’s should be obvious. Also may I add that I’m seeing in these comments that “you can’t compare the A321LR or XLR because they compete with the 757” is stupid. It’s still apart of the A320 family but Airbus found a way to make it even better using an existing airframe whereas Boeing can’t and they need to design a completely new aircraft.
One that crashed few times due to greedy manufacturers cost benefit analysis deeming human life’s is not important, and another one state of the art, modernized, realizable plane.
I’ll take the one that doesn’t crash and doesn’t ignore safety issues
one 737 coming right up sir
Airbus is ignoring hella safety standards. They just aren’t getting caught since they are in europe
@@Zrich98 👀👀👀
@henriqueluizhogrefe1324 American butthurtism.
@@Zrich98then tell me why no airbus plane has been ever been grounded and crashed twice for exactly the same causes, and before you call me a fanboy, i know that all airbus plane has crashed many times but not for the exactly same cause, not like the 737MAX
I've gone transatlantic on a MAX 8 (Norwegian, EDI-SWF and return, November 2017) and it was surprisingly comfortable, but let's be honest: Airbus has got this one
I've been on both but never noticed much difference. I'm 6ft'1 to be exact but I find the 737 more comfortable due to more legroom than the 320 otherwise all other dimensions are quite literally equally Parred.
In term of passenger comfortability, YES for Airbus. It is their trademark.
@@brettdemauna9332 Leg room depends on the configuration of the airline. Its not a fault of the aircraft.
@@naftyloescher. Of course we all know of that.
Been flying many times JetBlue on A320 and many times feel the pressure change in cabin. Never felt that in 737-8 flying AA.
Not sure if leaving out the A321LR and XLR is right? The LR is already flying and the XLR started test flying and as it seems the airlines love the 321XLR ....
They don’t really compete with the 737 though, more the 757
@@EvanAviator They don't compete with the 737 because 737 has nothing in its family that can compete with them; thanks for its 40 years old airframe design.
The A321LR and A321XLR are in fact in direct competition with the 737 series but are currently uncontested by Boeing so far, as Boeing's NMA project is still on the drawing-board
@@jahangiryounus6674 First of all, the 737 is older than 40 years. It's the Airbus airframe that's nearly 40 years old, which is to say, both airframes are old. However, the 737 that's flying today is a much more refined aircraft than the one that flew in 1967.
Also, the A321 is not mentioned in this video because Boeing doesn't have a new aircraft to compare it to other than the Max-10. Since the Max-10 is not yet in service, the proper aircraft to compare are the Max 8 and 9 to the A320. The A321 is better compared to a 757, and that's not a fair fight.
I agree it should have been mentioned, while Boeing has nothing to compete, fleet commonality gives airlines a reason to consider smaller members of the LR/XLR family.
Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it setn a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html
That airbus 321 has got impressive figures for range and capacity.
A321XLR?
@@RuhjedVentula lr
Xlr is 8700km range
Who told you that and are sure about that? Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it setn a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html People need to checks the facts!
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nm not km @@Pajtim2023
I've been flying for over fifty years. The A320neo is simply a delightful aircraft to fly on. I've flown on 737-ngs. However, I do not recall ever being on a 737 Max.
Everyone knew that the 737 NG would be last update for the 737 family and a new clean-sheet offering would replace it. Everyone except the quarter-to-quarter bean counters running Boeing that is.
LOL😁
Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it setn a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html
But then Boeing said: no, let's make another 737, but unsafe and unreliable lol 😂
Result: 737 reputation completely RUINED (just like what happened with the old DC 10) 😂
@@Fra93TheGrandeI loved the dc-10 though
I'll go with Airbus any day.
Innovation in plane design is another aspect you should take into account.
The 737 as a base is TWENTY years older than the A320.
You can't forget that each new model is only marginally different from the base, just think of the engine issue that lead to the MCAS having to be added to the 737.
Yes, the 737 MAX might be safe, but innovation can only take you so far.
Fundamental design choices CAN'T be changed down the road with a plane (without changing the type rating and the consequences that brings with it).
I'm not saying the A320 is a completely up to date plane either, any 35 year old base wouldn't be, but i'm saying the issues the MAX has are issues that didn't have to be, just because they wanted to make "a quick buck" by upgrading the 737 one more time, when they REALLY shouldn't have.
That assessment is weird. The Dreamliner is the most innovative commercial aircraft in the air. Guess who builds them? I rest my case.
@@sainnt yeah sure. Except boeing can't turn them over to customers. Massive fail
BTW A350 is better
@@billybill6604 I don't know if an A350 is quieter than a Dreamliner, but I know that the Dreamliner is more innovative. And, although the two aircraft are constantly compared, the A350 is a larger aircraft. Even an A350-900 is larger than a 787-10, the the A350 is compared to a 787 because of the mostly composite construction, and are both used for similar purposes. However the Dreamliner is more cost effective for airlines, which is why it outsells the A350 almost 2 to 1.
@@sainnt I don't see the 787 as more innovative than the A350. At all. The problem with 787 is that it is ridden with problems. They are piling up at boeing
@@billybill6604 That's clear Airbus bias. The aircraft has been flying for 10 years already and faced 2; major problems; lithium batteries and Trent 1000; engines, 2; items not even made by Boeing. Currently issues with quality are nothing but the FAA grasping straws. Aircraft that's already been delivered were never recalled. There's nothing wrong with the Dreamliner.
I usually prefer Boeing Jets, but when it comes to the smaller aircraft, the a320 family just looks so much better.
I disagree. I usually also prefer Boeing products but I think the max looks stunning. However im torn on the decision between the max and the neo and the only thing holding the neo back for me is the side view look of it
Naa the split scimitars tho
Why don't you check the facts because it just might save your life! Who told you that and are sure about that? Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it set a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html Over 1500 people have been killed flying on the A320! People need to checks the facts! Have you been to lie about the facts and how Airbus A320 and family have killed over 1500 people and had allot more crashes. I wish ppeople would read the truth about and how the A320's have a huge amout of crashes? Tsk, tsk, tsk Airbus lies so much!
@@wubalub2535 Old Design and The 737Max feels smaller and cramped than the 320neo
@@gerardanderson9665feel the opposite. The airbus was made to stuff people in
And now we have the answer. The one that doesn't fall apart mid-air.
None does that
Brillant video! As both a fan of Boeing and Airbus this is really down the line. I work at an airline that has both 737, and A320 family. The turn around is a bit faster with the B737 and that means better revenue. I love both families, and both do a great job. Great job Long Haul
The experience-based comment on turn around time is a useful tidbit of information. Could you, or anybody, come up with possible explanations for the difference? Is the MAX easier to clean, or unload people and/or baggage, or refuel?
@@fbkintanar it’s lower to the ground and was designed in a time where ground vehicles were not as present as they are and is therefore more versatile
- a armchair idiot (me)
Gotta say, as a mechanic having worked on both. Even ignoring Boeing’s MCAS tragedy, the 737 Max doesn’t hold a candle to the 320Neo’s. The 737 Max still just feels like an upgraded version of a 60 year old airplane while the Neo manages to feel like a brand new airplane
Nah the a320 neo is not really different from the a320ceo, it is just an upgraded version of an existing plane just as the max is an upgraded version of the 737ng.
exactly, the A320 was already modern enough it didn't need the change, the 737 max was a desperate update to a plane that should've been retired 20 years ago@@Hk-uw8my
Air bus all day every day
#airbus
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Fax
Haha as if you get to choose what the airLines are buying
#airbusforever
Why is there no mention of the Airbus A321neo LR & XLR?
If Airbus doesnt make a huge blunder and china wont shake up the game too much, I can imagine a downward trend for Boeing.
As they have to invest into "fixing" the 737 desaster and their failed foresight in marketdemands (sustainablility f.e.), Airbus gets again a huge headstart in the development of the next Generation.
Both A319NEo and 737-7 are niche aircraft and have poor sales and prospects. Whether A320NEO is better than 737-8 is debatable, but the solid fact is that A321NEO in its 3 variants soundly outsells 737-9&10 3 to 1. The yawning difference will spread further as time passes, and Boeing so far has not announced a MAX replacement.
The 737-7 has way more orders than the A319, and those numbers will only increase when the plane is in service. The A319 has proven to be a poor seller because the A220-300 makes more sense, so the Max 7 will be much more successful.
@@sainnt well, even if more it is still a very modest number for 737-7 as well, and for essentially 4 airlines. Had Southwest not insisted a lot for their own reasons, the version would not have seen the light of day. Both are essentially cut and shut versions, hence they have too big wings and engines for their size. This results in excellent field performance, good for high and/or hot airports (not a particularly needed feature in the market) and their downside is that they have poorer economics than their respective siblings. Niche airplanes.
@@luisdestefano6056 Airbus has a total of 73 A319 orders. Boeing has a total of 234 Max 7. That's like calling the A380 niche aircraft. The A319 is only niche because it makes more sense for an Airbus customer to buy the A220-300 instead. Boeing will always sell more Max 7 because they don't have regional aircraft to compete with the A220, but the Max 7 makes way more sense to an airline than an A319.
@@sainnt So why bother with an obsolete 737-7 when you can just buy newer, superior in every way A220-300s?
@@sainnt So why bother with an obsolete 737-7 when you can get a superior A220-300? And if you need something bigger, with more range, then buy a A32xNEO.
Very nice video. Keep up the good work.
Oh yes! The Ultimate Battle! A320 neo VS 737 MAX! Personally I prefer the A320 neo because it's much better and a lot safer than the 737 MAX and it's more fuel efficient and my favorite narrowbody aircraft alongside with the A220 300
Sadly the MAX is more efficient
@@Bonazest9169 but terrible to fly with
@@F12010Team yes
@@Bonazest9169 Efficient in what way? Efficiency is just a ratio of input to output.
@@F12010Team how?
The whistleblower death is very suspicious . Boeing going through a bad time currently . I like airbus and boeing
How do you do a comparison without considering fuel burn? It's the top expense over capital and salaries!
I would absolutely not be reassured about MAX fixes. Boeing has had huge issues with quality over the last decade at least. See also the 787, 777X and so on. I also don't see any substantial better specs on the 737. In fact, the video does its best to be dismissive of any Airbus advantages.
But the 737 max is better than the a320 on paper. It's true. The a320 is also cheaper but I think the 321xlr and LR will give AB a much larger advantage as well.
Considering airbus's large backlog , the 737 will continue to get more orders for customers not willing to wait longer for the a320.
Nothing dismissive . All facts
@@mmm0404 apart from range and safety and price.
The MAX's crashes are due to pilot error. Granted good training for the pilots, it should have been fine. The MAX is definitely a better, safer, and cheaper aircraft than any airbus garbage.
@@paulinejackson5861 LOL good one.
All of this channels videos have a hidden preference for Boeing, other than that they’re pretty fun, and to the guy saying pilot error lol on you
A320 for me
Always a pleasure to watch your insightful videos. Thanks!
Essentially the 737 hails back to the 727 cockpit and even the 707, with tweaks, fixes and extensions. By contrast the A320 is a much more contemporary design. My money is certainly on Airbus with a far better design and upgrade potential. The 737 is at the end of life.
The neo variants on airbus are in extremely high demand being very new and very fuel efficient.
3:15 If anyone knows the name of that background music please, thank you
Yes thank you I have been waiting for this! Airbus ftw
Not sure about the sums, 737 started 1967 and A320 1984, so Boeing had hell of an advantage?
interesting tha simply flying DOES NOT MENTION THAT FACT.
A320neo family FOREVER
Interesting video, but I'd say largely flawed. The single biggest cost to airlines is fuel over an aircraft's life not the upfront cost. It doesn't matter if a 737 can carry X passengers a further Ynm if it uses more fuel to do that. According to Wikipedia (I know, probably questionable, but the intent stands), the A320neo has a fuel efficiency per seat of 2.25 litres / km and the 737 MAX 9 has 2.28... that's a 1.3% difference which might not seem much but is actually enormous in the aviation industry. Note that the addition of Sharklets on the A320neo gave a 3-4% fuel burn saving, and only up to that much on flights with long cruise segments!
It's way more complicated than this as these numbers are likely assuming a full cabin, full fuel tanks and maximum ranges, airline operations obviously very rarely meet all 3 of these criteria. Airlines will run all the very complicated calculations and find out what suits their network best to even achieve a fraction of a percentage in fuel savings. Paying slightly more for an aircraft you want will pay for itself in the long run in fuel savings.
An issue affecting the A320s that could potentially drive sales to Boeing is the ongoing problem with the Pratt PW1100G engines powering the Airbus. A flaw in the powdered metal used to make the high-pressure turbine discs could lead to cracks and uncontained failures. This led to the grounding of many aircraft to disassemble and inspect the engine cores. While the A320 is available with a choice of engines from Pratt & Whitney or CFM, the 737 only flies with the LEAP engine by CFM.
A similar problem even worse found on PW4000-powered Boeing 777s and EA GP7200 powered A380s. United Airlines are on the edge of planning to phase out their PW powered 777-200/200ERs and keep the GE90 powered ones
I'm pretty sure that this video was made based on information from Wikipedia especially seating capacity. Because in real life, I don't know if there is A320NEO with 195 seats. Mostly especially low-cost carriers would go with 186 seats single class config (EasyJet, Frontier, AirAsia, IndiGo). On the other hand, you mentioned only 178 seats which described in Wiki as 2-class config not a single class config which mostly 189 seats and up to 210 seats for MAX-200. The MAX-9 has much larger airframe and significantly carry more passenger in single class config than A320NEO, so I don't think they could be compared.
I traveled in both, both planes were new or max 2 years old. I find the 737 max of Turkish Airlines much smoother and quiter as the A320neo also from Turkish Airlines as a pasenger.
I also flew with TK A321neo and the Max 8 but I have the opposite experience. the max in my opinion was noisier... None of them was smooth because it were turbulent flights
I don’t think he explains more important things like efficiency cost per seat ect, instead of how powerful the engines are
Gracias por tan buen análisis .😀
Great video. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I’ll give the nod to the Airbus A320… and I’ve worked for Boeing
Great video really enjoyed but I do think a320neo is a winner e.g a321xlr and a320neo due to range and efficiency but b737max is a great competitor but it didn't have a great start.both aircraft manufacturers did a great job. Thanks for the video
A320neo is better at price I mean
@@planespotting-rodion2494 at the price? Certainly not.
In the video it is stated that the a320neo is cheaper than the b738 max and b739 max specifically a320neo $110m b738max $121m b739 max $128m
@@planespotting-rodion2494 Those are list prices. Sales prices are around $50-55M, 737 being cheaper.
@@user-yt198 also depends on deals of the manufacturers but thanks for the correction
THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS AIRBUS DOORS DONT FALL OFF - WHICH PAX CONSIDER IMPORTANT. F*CK BOEING.
remember? airfrance 296Q,qantas 32 , qantas 72,
@@marveljayden The Air France one had 3 fatalities, and happened 1988, which was AGES ago... Both Qantas Flight 32 and 72 had no fatalities, one of them didn't even result in any injuries. But the Alaska Airlines one happened 2024, not 1988, 2008 or 2010. Another thing is the MCAS issue whichhappened in 2018 and 2019, resulting in way more fatalities while having a flight less, and they happened VERY recenly unnlike the Air France one which had 3 fatalities...
You're really just showing how safe Airbus is, and putting Boeing in a worse place, the opposite of what you intended.
For people saying "737 Max airframe is old and unsafe"
The software is what made it unsafe, not the 60 years old airframe, airlines don't care how old the airframe is, as long as it gets upgraded along with technological development in the aviation industry, as is the case for A320 and 737.
MCAS's purpose was to change the flight characteristics and control surface handling to make it similar to 737NG as a solution for engine placement problems.
Technically the 737 Max is flyable without an MCAS system, but it was installed for training cost cuts, and somehow Boeing decided to hide the system back then.
*Old is gold* but that being said everything has its end. 737 Max family would be the last ever 737 generation Boeing has developed, and it's time for Boeing to develop a new clean sheet narrowbody jet "NMA".
The new big and heavy engine in the old airplane is unsafe. Boeing should redesign the airfame to fit the new engine. Hell No...they want quick bucks and comes out MCAS to prevent the natural tilt up of the plane when extra boost is applied on the engine.
@@yours_sincerely48 You seem to be ignoring the fact that Boeing didn't tell the pilot about MCAS when the incidents could've been avoided. The causes aren't mainly in the engine placement or the natural pitch-up behavior in 737 Max at all, but flight characteristics that had to be changed to make it easier to fly for sake of cutting costs for Boeing customers.
Blame Boeing for hiding a poorly programmed software, not the 737 Max itself. If it's not safe right now, FAA and EASA wouldn't have cleared it to fly in US/EU airspaces in the first place.
I prefer listening to aviation experts, not average unknowledgeable people.
*I'm still flying this thing anyway*
I wouldn't say it's unsafe, it is old, but not unsafe at face value.
What they did to get away with not having to modify it, THAT is the sin in this story. It's got a name: MCAS!!!
I've flown in the 737 plenty of times, and it's a perfectly fine plane, but the MCAS is a system that was handled (very) poorly, in every way!
It's not even that MCAS is a bad system, it's the way they implemented it, plain and simple.
@@grandnagus5851 Agreed!
Southwest is the reason for the crashes. They demanded the MAX feeling of handling to the pilots match the NG models. As such, the had to put in the systems that modified the feel. This was, however, never communicated to the other airlines and as a result that computer equipment/programming was an unspoken "secret" that caused the crashes. That blood is on WN's head.
But Boeing is the one paying the price for it.
Well, one of the planes has a tendency to crash itself into the earth, so it's pretty obvious the one that doesn't crash itself is the better plane.
Does it really, at this point?
@@marct9587 We don't know. It'll take a decade at least to know whether it's safe.
@@AquariusTurtle The design of the MAX is a flaw! Boeing should redesign the airfame to fit the new engine however greed came upon them using a big heavy engine in an old airframe but add in A Crutch to stabilise the flight.
As a passenger I enjoyed the max more, now that I flew both.
I liked the overall look of the interior and the non existing noise during the flight.
I especially love how noiseless it is during explosive decompression at 16,000 feet. 😂
airbus has less noise
Boeing Sky Interior sure makes the 737 look cooler and nicer on the inside, but the A320 family is still wider
I have always loved the wider cabin so you can move around more. Probably my favorite feature of the a320 over the 737max.@@EuropeanRailfanAlt
@@Roboseal2 In Summer 2023 I have flown on two 737s and an A321, I found the A321 more spacious aswell, so I agree
Having your birds grounded for weeks or months might skew the cost calculation rather heavily. On Boeings side we have had mandatory groundings for 737, 777 and 787. Will have to ask around for Airbus groundings
Why don't you check the facts because it just might save your life! Who told you that and are sure about that? Are you sure? The Airbus has problems Fly this new beautiful amazing Airbus A320 and it see it set a new record, th-cam.com/video/I9gELPxPG8Q/w-d-xo.html Over 1500 people have been killed flying on the A320! People need to checks the facts! Have you been to lie about the facts and how Airbus A320 and family have killed over 1500 people and had allot more crashes. I wish ppeople would read the truth about and how the A320's have a huge amout of crashes? Tsk, tsk, tsk Airbus lies so much! It apparent Airbus pays off crooked Europeans while Boeing is honestly run company and thats why Airbus has so many crashes!!!
RIP BOEING LOL 💀😂 its founder must be twisting in his grave... 😅
@@kimberlywilliams7543 facts
Cool,man!
What about airframe life? When the 320 series first started flying in the US, a friend who worked for the FAA said the airframes would not last as long as Boeing's.
There are definitely Boeings still flying that are older than the company airbus.
Well your friend is completely wrong.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe Don't think that any aircraft still flyin is 53/54 years old...
The one that doesn't crash or has bolted doors randomly come off.
How can the a320 neo carry more passengers than the 737 max 9, the max 9 is 5 metres longer. You also looked at the max single class pax for the A320 neo and the maximum 2 class paxs for the 737. The 737 max 9 carries 13 more pax at 2 class config.
Seating arrangement u dumb fuck
I am a Boeing fan, but have had good and bad flights from both families of aircraft. Boeing has to eat a lot of humble pie and regain the trust of the flying public, airlines, and government regulators. I know they are up to the task! Also, there is so much demand that Airbus couldn't fulfill every order, if every 737 customer ditched Boeing. I would advise the Airbus CEO to be careful before increasing A320 family production. He could end up hurting the Airbus image, harming contractors/vendors, and his own Max crisis. With global supply shortages, I think he plans are too ambitious.
I have no faith in Boeing. It's no longer an engineering company run by engineers. It's run by bean counters who put a dollar value on lives. As long as Boeing is run by financial people and MBAs, they're screwed. These kinds of people do not have moral or ethical values. They are only smart enough to maximize profit for themselves at the expense of everyone else.
??? Production only start when customer put out their purchase order. Why airbus need to be wary. You a symphathizer for Boeing? Don't because they make tons of money for the past decade monopolised the world with boeing plane.
@@yours_sincerely48 So all you look at is money? What about all the lives that pursuit of money has claimed? Maybe you should instead look at all the people who were killed by it.
@@AquariusTurtle You on weeds or something? What are you talking about? Can you be specific?
@@yours_sincerely48 Airbus has a massive backlog and I read management is interested in increasing production to make deliveries sooner. This could lead to future production delays due to increased pressure on suppliers etc. I admit I am a Boeing fan, but genuinely feel they need to regain the worlds trust!
2:20 If that were the case, we'd probably be seeing the A380 #1000 by this point 😂
Nothing like the past crashes? Famous last words, the DC-9 still crashed after it was "fixed". Only time will tell if the MAX is safe or even if the 7 and 10 get certified at this point.
Exactly. It has to earn that designation. It should be considered "awaiting [safe] designation" until it gets many more hours.
Or if the -10 is even built
09:52 so a new type of error occurs 😊
So many materials used for aircraft
Will🤔 we run out of materials for aircraft?
Do🤔 old aircraft's materials get reused♻️ & put on new aircraft
Can somone please tell me the name of the background music at the beginning ? THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
A320 is better for Passenger, the seats are wider and also cargo space above Head.
Two crashes within such a short period will definitely put a dent in your reputation
4:02 I don't understand how the A320 NEO has a higher capacity than the Max 8 and 9 because the two maxes are longer than then Neo. The max 8 is 1 meter longer than the A320 Neo while the Max 9 is 5 meters longer than the A320 Neo so it doesn't make any sense
My guess is that the a320neo has a wider and more efficient cabin than Max but maybe wrong
@@planespotting-rodion2494 correct. It has a wider cabin.
@@luchsegamer8112 even if it has wider cabin it still seats 6 abreast like the 737
@@luchsegamer8112 thanks for the correction:)
@@theskyline1425 yes that's true but I said more efficient seating so possibly more seats being added
I just want to ask what is a Boeing 737 max 200
It is a version of the 737 MAX for Ryanair, because Ryanair planes are high density. More people means more emergency exits are required.
Just what I expected!
How I miss the 757-200. As a passenger I like the 737-600 and -800 but would never willing fly on a Max. Another area of concern for me as a passenger is the emergency evacuation time for the long fuselage 737 versions, the lessons of the BA 737 Manchester Airport Disaster were quietly forgotten.
I also wonder if the so called "Miracle on the Hudson" would have had quite such a happy outcome if the aircraft was a 737.
If Sully was the pilot, it would have been fine. If the Lyon Air or Ethiopian Air Max pilots, then no, they would have tried to return to LGA or went for TEB. Not the same outcome…..
Garuda 421 and that is a 737: why did you forget me?
As for me I love both but Still Have to go with Airbus. It's better due to longer distances and Love every Airbus
One of my customers a retired commercial pilot told me the saying in the day among pilots was if ain’t a Boeing I ain’t a going
But that was in the days when Boeing's competitors were Lockheed and McDonnell-Douglas. Both of which had an iffy safety record.
You can't make that statement with all honesty that you did with the 737 being out the 319 because of its 100 mile great range being more fuel efficient WITHOUT knowing its fuel capacity for that range and comparing that as well. Plus, as you point out...the Airbus has 7 more seats which, again as you state, increases weight and thus reduces range if the fuel to move that additional weight isn't factored in to the totals. To say the 737 is more fuel efficient is a total based on those parameters is disingenuine.
Where Airbus was looking with the A321neo/XLR is the direct replacement for the aging 757 fleet and the airlines who have, had or still desire that capacity and range (TATL is where the ship found its niche on long thin routes after its discontinuation) Airbus wants that market.
What's funny about the total series sales for the two...the Boeing was launched in the 60s and had nigh on 20 years of advance production time over the Airbus. In fact, it was flying in airline service for almost a decade before Airbus even existed. So I'd say Airbus has done on heck of a job to have caught up in a much shorter production time.
As a former ramp rat and as a passenger, while I am a Boeing fan for it being a US product...you cannot beat the Airbus for comfort and ride as well as the qualities it has on the ramp. I HATED seeing a damn 737 on the schedule. Give me the Bombardier regionals, the Douglas/McDonnell Douglas T-tails and the Airbus' all day long. I hated the 737 if I was anything other than the ramp boss and not actively having to work on it.
Bottom line...both are great products regardless of whether a person is a Boeing or Airbus person. Companies have such a complex process for decision making, but it goes well beyond the numbers and in some cases, nationalism plays a roll as well. In the end, how each manufacturer manages to do it, I really don't know. Each airline wants its own specs and tells the builders what they want and what Ryanair and Southwest want may not line up with someone else's need...but who ultimately will the designers listen to? Their sales department. He who has the biggest interest will get most of what they want ultimately and everyone will have to adjust.
That's why the MAX had the issues it has. Southwest Airlines is the cause of that. 100% on the shoulders of them. They demanded the commonality for the pilots and as such, to make the MAX feel like it flies like the NG, they had to put systems in that changed the feel of the plane for them. Problem was, they didn't tell the other airlines of this feature and and as result, the crashes because the system for Southwest was a unspoken "secret."
Boeing should've told all of the airlines operating the 737 MAX about MCAS. It was incredibly foolish and irresponsible of them not to, as MCAS had the potential to cause a plane crash if the sensor it relied on was faulty. It also only relied on 1 sensor, instead of 3, which would've likely prevented both crashes from occuring.
After watching Netflix documentary about 737 MAX, I doubt they wen to “rigorous” testing
Netflix ? sure sir
netflix is not reliable mate
You can’t trust Netflix. Every time an election anywhere spews out a vote they don’t like, they release documentaries with disinformation.
It’s about the most biased and corrupt source you can quote
With safety being considered, its always airbus. But oh boy, the boeing sky interiors are the best must say. Beautiful interiors
Do you really think that the Boeing cabin is better than the Airbus? You only have to look at the modern joystick control on the A320 to see that it is better than the outdated rudder system used on the 737.
@@LordCommander1 Well then. Airbus has had over 1000 fatalities, Boeing has made way more planes than airbus with some in an era where computer technology and safety features DIDN'T EXIST!!! They are in the wrong with MCAS, but the whole entire company is not made up of criminals. Also, the 747 was incredibly reliable, sure it had a few incidents before computers, but what about United 811? China 006? They sustained incredible damage and the structural integrity of the plane was so strong that the planes managed to land safely
What about resale value? When 10 years plane goes on sale, how much do you get for B737 and how much for A320 with similar cycle?
No one talks about that, and 10 year old well maintaned plane is not cheap.
Hooray!
Who won?
Who's next?
You decide!
Boeing 737 max has the edge in cargo capacity and fuel efficiency🛫
I am European so I prefer Airbus.
This didn’t age well for 737
Pretty obvious the one that doesn’t keep crashing and killing all its passengers is best.
the max doesn't keep crashing and keep killing its passengers. that would be more than 2 and it hasn't crashed more than twice
@@nickolliver3021 still it crashed so end
@@wasmiddelsap3379 like all planes do
@@nickolliver3021 neo has had 0 crashes
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 a330 has crashed
737 unsafe A320 wins the end.
I've been on a321 before and it's super quite, since then I loved the a320 family, especially the neo.
considering it was 2 years older than the 737 max family and has no crashes at all, I prefer the A320 family much more than the 737 max😂
Is the boeing 737 max safe in 2022 ??
Yes it is very safe
Airbus has a better product range with the A320neo variants to meet airline operational requirements compared to the B737 MAX product range.
Technically the max has more of a range max 7, 8, 9, 10 all different lengths. While the neo has 319, 320, and 321.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe - The A319neo is similar to the B737-7, the A320neo is similar to the B737-8 and the A321neo is similar to the B737-9/10. Boeing has no product similar to the A321lr/xlr.
@@chrismckellar9350 I guess on the range no. But the xlr is like the 757 lite is not a complete replacement for the 757 but it’s closest thing. That is why Boeing is going for the MMA to be a replacement for the 757 and 767 size aircraft.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe - Don't forget Airbus has designs for the stretch version of the A321neo dubbed the 'A322' Airbus is waiting to what Boeing is going to do with their NMA/B797.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe Boeing have max 8 and 9 only. let's wait and see how it goes with 7 and 10.
The maxs come like an ikea flatpack with leftover fittings you’re not sure whether were meant to be used.
Great!
The one that didn’t kill people.
the a320 has killed ppl but yk
I've travelled by air before Mila was born, and what's more,I don't even live by an airport!
as a boeing fan i can't defend 737 here. its obvius that A320 had decent edge over 737 family. but 737 still remain my personal favourite. i just like the design of 737 Max much more than A320 Neo.
although 737 Max isn't competitive enough to fight A320 Neo, boeing still have some edge when it comes to freighter variant which A320 series lacks. the sales in this category isn't large though.
Edit: someone in my reply told me that airbus had freighter variant of A320 so that's a good thing! Finally airbus started to catch up to boeing in freighter market but airbus still needs long way to go to challenge boeing in this segment👍
Actually, Qantas received an A321-200P2F last year, and development and certification for the A320-200P2F is under way, so your statement that the A320 family has no freighter variant is no longer accurate, though it is understandable why you would think that, as the A320/A321P2F program is still rather recent.
@@AutismTakesOn thank you for the info!
@@Arkan_Fadhila You're welcome.
Regarding more Airbus freighters, the A350F, (based off the A350-1000), is expected to enter service starting in 2025. It would compete with the 777F and join Airbus's other freighters: The A320-200P2F, A321-200P2F, A330-200F, A330-200P2F, and A330-300P2F.
I’m pretty sure he said the max 9 can have a capacity of 210 seats.
I doubt airlines would want the 737 max after the 2019 aftermath.. I believe more are ordering the a320 and a321s to from fear of loss of lofe
Obviously I prefer the A320neo, it is so much easier to fly than the 737 MAX. In fact, the A320neo only had 1 hull loss out of nearly 4,000 of them being delivered to airlines. My dad used to work with both Boeing and Airbus aircraft and he said the A320 is better, it is higher off the ground so you don’t bump your head like with a 737.
A320neo is better than 737 max
Airbus fans here are talking as if they decide which planes their airlines purchases. Both the planes are quiet and comfortable. I really like their interiors too. Love both Airbus and Boeing.
All I know is the airbus is a foot wider and goes farther I want comfort and don't want to change planes
We all don't want to die in the air, so the 737 Max must be avoided.
Is it just me or was simple flying being quite bias towards Boeing
Yeah for sure, quickly putting away 700 extra dollars of income but putting heavy weight on a few nm extra range
@@caspervantieghem3192 Well you’ve got to look at the whole A320 family for comparison they looked at the all of the max family they failed to mention A321LR and A321XLR which the XLR already has 450 orders without being in service and the industry has spoken by favoring the a320 by having more sales then the 737 even though it was released decades later im not being a fan boy but looking at the fact that the market suggest otherwise
The airlines would probably disagree
Funny how things change in a year isn’t it.
Turns out the Max did not recover after the 2 crashes which killed 346 people, as our narrator suggested they might.
Well it did recover, they sorted out the MCAS., which wanted to point the nose of the plane towards the ground at 500 miles an hour, but then only to have the doors fall off.
And then it turns out that’s not the only quality issue. There are multiple things that need tackling.
So it’s going to be a difficult road for the Max family, at least for the next few months, if not a couple of years.
They will still keep customers though.
Ryanair and others will exact a price for their loyalty, as they already have done. it was in Boeings’ darkest hour , when the Max 8 was grounded , that Michael O’Leary went to order 100 or so aircraft. He knows when a bargain is available.
The same thing will happen here . Those people who stick with the Max, will get them at a big discount assuming they get the plane sorted, They will save a big chunk of money.
In the end, there is no sentiment in business.
If a bad safety record means the unit prices lower, there will be people who will happily take that . As long As the travelling public are not too well informed.
Whether the travelling general public will forgive the Max series, remains to be seen .
As we know, most regular people have no idea what kind of aircraft they are flying on.
If it stays that way, eventually the Max might get sorted and make money .
But if the general public take more of an interest and more importantly, start asking which aircraft they are likely to be travelling on and vote against the Max with their wallets, the Max and therefore Boeing could have big trouble.
Honestly though, bearing in mind the two Max 8 crashes because of a design flaw, it didn’t stop people flying on the Max then, so why should a door falling off do anything different.
Ethiopian have ordered a new Max even though they lost one in the crash!
Though we don’t know what the deal is , it could be a freebie or massively discounted from Boeing.
I do wonder what pilots and crew think. In an organisation like Ryanair or Southwest, who have no choice but to fly the Max.
I wonder if there’s any chance of a rebellion because of safety concerns ?
If there are more jobs than pilots, could some of them decide not to work for an airline that flys the Max ?
But if you have too many pilots chasing fewer jobs, that’s much less likely to happen.
The Max still has thousands of orders and even if Airlines cancelled and went to Airbus they would be right at the back of the queue, so Boeing will always have customers for this aircraft family , as long as there are people who will fly on it , and they need to get it right.
Me? No. They’ve shown they can’t be trusted. Even after two death crashes, they still didn’t learn the lesson.
I have no desire to encourage them by flying on one of these things.
off course the A320 is the best... the plane always was! and now more now with NEO vs MAX....
#airbusforever
The NGs are more successful than the CEOs.
But the NEOs are far more successful than the MAXs.
Southwest needs to break this commitment with Boeing and buy Airbus.
I’m pretty sure he said in a previous video that the max 9 can have a capacity of 210 seats.
That's probably not wrong since the MAX 8 can hold 200 passengers for Ryanair.
Tldw: the one that doesn’t crash
The A320 is better as the cabin is wider compare to the Boeing. No doubt it is only a few inches but this inches translate to a s few inches on your seat width.
Further you find the cabin a bit roomier than Boeing. Same thing when you compare B787 Vs A350.
true, but 787 doesn’t go against a350, the 777 does
I took a poll of 50 of my contacts, all frequent business travellers. Of these 50, 37 (including me), have decided never to fly on a Boeing 737 Max - of any variant. This plane is a flawed design, built badly with substandard quality control. It’s a death trap and the Max program should be scrapped altogether.
2 crashes dosent mean that an aircraft is not safe
Kinda crazy how the A320 family has nearly the same amount of sales as the 737 and Boeing had a 20 or so year advantage. I’m a huge avgeek and love both companies but it’s kinda obvious Airbus has the edge here. Look at the numbers they don’t lie 4000 compared to 8000 orders it’s should be obvious. Also may I add that I’m seeing in these comments that “you can’t compare the A321LR or XLR because they compete with the 757” is stupid. It’s still apart of the A320 family but Airbus found a way to make it even better using an existing airframe whereas Boeing can’t and they need to design a completely new aircraft.
Looks like I got my answer!
Yes,I do!
737 MAX 7, 737 MAX 8, 737 MAX 9, 737 MAX 10, A319neo, A320neo, A321neo A320VIP, put in time for you.
This isn't entirely true. The a320 has more range and payload capacity as opposed to the max
One that crashed few times due to greedy manufacturers cost benefit analysis deeming human life’s is not important, and another one state of the art, modernized, realizable plane.