-4 is crazy to me mate. I have felt that cold when i travel but i had 4 layers on. 😆 I'm from Singapore so I can't imagine running when it's that cold. I agree,I enjoy running in this shoe. As a slow runner, i run faster when i have these on and my legs feel good even after my run.
Hi Fiddler! - it was very cold mate, but the sun was out with blue a blue sky so everything looked beautiful. Would love to travel to Singapore one day! The AP4 feel amazing to me also, these foams are just getting better and better.
Would you say it's unstable for a runner averaging 6min/km (9:40min/mile), mid foot striker? I would like this shoe but I'm worried it may not be good for slower runners. I tried this shoe on and agree that it fits better half a size up like a lot of people suggest especially for longer distances. In comparison AP3 fit TTS for me.
Hi! Great question! I think if you can maintain that midfoot strike then this shoe could be really good for you, the foam is amazing, but soft, and the heel is a bit of a mess tbh. If you tire and start heel striking that could lead to some stability issues. I guess the answer to your question lies in where your foot strike will be at the end of a Half Marathon.
@@Kaisersozzehey. I think I’m a midfoot striker. I used to heel strike but recently I feel like I’m not doing longer strikes and in some videos I’ve taken I see myself landing a bit early. With that context, I used these shoes for one of my base runs recently which is about 143 bpm ( I train by HR and it’ll be roughly about 11 ish per mile pace) and what I found is, I found myself running 9:50-10:30 in these shoes for the same target HR. So yeah this definitely worked for me. I also had the same concern about instability but I didn’t feel that. Of course during walk you get that suction due to us landing in heel during walking. I also ran a 5k race in -11 c and I ran in 28:40 in rolling terrain ( my 5K PR is 26:15 min in flat terrain during my peak marathon shape). Hope this helps
As a mid-foot lander who does heel strike at times I've had to admit that this probably Isn't going to be a full-marathon shoe for me. Like yourself Ed, I need to get some longer runs in them before really passing judgement, but that "suction" noise you described is awful LOL The new Cielo is definitely being purchased now! I was thinking about the Endorphin Elite 2 as well, so I'll wait to see what the general consensus is before pulling the trigger, otherwise I might have to panic buy the Alphafly 3 in time for London :-) Oh and that 5k time man!
Hi Paul! At the end of a Marathon, you are likely to be heel striking a lot, this is when you need assistance from a shoe the most, so sadly I tend to agree with you about the AP4, even I’m not totally sure yet! Bring on the Cielo 2.0!
Congrats Ed winning the Burgess parkrun mate🏆hopfully next week you can race test these bangers..🙂👍
Thanks John! These Bangers will definitely get a race test soon mate!
-4 is crazy to me mate. I have felt that cold when i travel but i had 4 layers on. 😆 I'm from Singapore so I can't imagine running when it's that cold.
I agree,I enjoy running in this shoe. As a slow runner, i run faster when i have these on and my legs feel good even after my run.
Hi Fiddler! - it was very cold mate, but the sun was out with blue a blue sky so everything looked beautiful. Would love to travel to Singapore one day! The AP4 feel amazing to me also, these foams are just getting better and better.
18:16 is still rapid!
Thanks mate!
Would you say it's unstable for a runner averaging 6min/km (9:40min/mile), mid foot striker? I would like this shoe but I'm worried it may not be good for slower runners. I tried this shoe on and agree that it fits better half a size up like a lot of people suggest especially for longer distances. In comparison AP3 fit TTS for me.
Hi! Great question! I think if you can maintain that midfoot strike then this shoe could be really good for you, the foam is amazing, but soft, and the heel is a bit of a mess tbh. If you tire and start heel striking that could lead to some stability issues. I guess the answer to your question lies in where your foot strike will be at the end of a Half Marathon.
@@Runnabl3-ed Okay thanks for your response!
@@Kaisersozzehey. I think I’m a midfoot striker. I used to heel strike but recently I feel like I’m not doing longer strikes and in some videos I’ve taken I see myself landing a bit early. With that context, I used these shoes for one of my base runs recently which is about 143 bpm ( I train by HR and it’ll be roughly about 11 ish per mile pace) and what I found is, I found myself running 9:50-10:30 in these shoes for the same target HR. So yeah this definitely worked for me. I also had the same concern about instability but I didn’t feel that. Of course during walk you get that suction due to us landing in heel during walking. I also ran a 5k race in -11 c and I ran in 28:40 in rolling terrain ( my 5K PR is 26:15 min in flat terrain during my peak marathon shape). Hope this helps
@@SenthilRameshJV Thanks for the response. Your 5K race time is very similar to mine. Good to hear you had no stability issues.
Great reply!
As a mid-foot lander who does heel strike at times I've had to admit that this probably Isn't going to be a full-marathon shoe for me. Like yourself Ed, I need to get some longer runs in them before really passing judgement, but that "suction" noise you described is awful LOL The new Cielo is definitely being purchased now! I was thinking about the Endorphin Elite 2 as well, so I'll wait to see what the general consensus is before pulling the trigger, otherwise I might have to panic buy the Alphafly 3 in time for London :-)
Oh and that 5k time man!
Hi Paul! At the end of a Marathon, you are likely to be heel striking a lot, this is when you need assistance from a shoe the most, so sadly I tend to agree with you about the AP4, even I’m not totally sure yet! Bring on the Cielo 2.0!