Once a monk said to his elder: ''I feel that I am dead to the world'' His elder calmly looked at him and said: ''If you are dead to the world, take off all of your clothes, go naked to the city and stay there, walking naked amongst the people'' The monk the replied in shock: ''But without clothes the other people will see me naked, will make example of me and mock at me'' And the elder finished: ''Dead people don't need clothes nor care for the mocking of others''
Being eastern orthodox myself I felt so good listening to the Om’s music… and only some time later I found this story and all jigsaws have fallen into place. This is my religion and my music. Peace to you, reader. Let there be no war between us Russians and you all.
Prayers and fairy tales will not end wars but no more christians might. it's been 2000 years and christians still tear the world apart saying "prayers and peace" wake tf up
I'm Greek orthodox. I was watching a documentary about the most "hardcore' orthodox monks in Mount Athos, that live with no electricity, with very little food / water etc. One of them was being interviewed, and he said that when he was living in society, he used to love to listen to Ozzy, Scorpions, Iron Maiden etc, and he was playing guitar on a band as a teenager
I always had a feeling that metal is the style of contemporary music that carries the spiritual in itself the most. Even genres that define themselves against Christianity, like black metal, ultimately rebel against that which has become rotten in the institutionalised forms of that tradition: the corruption, the all-show no-substance pharisee mentality, the vacuous mall-Christendom with no real spiritual content. To notice and stand against that indicates that you have an orientation towards the spiritual, but haven't found your path yet.
Not to mention the monk that waves the giant Greek flag at airforce planes passing over head ,he does it with such zeal that only a metal.head could do. Pretty kool. And the long hair and beards.
Having been a stoner and doom nut for almost 20 years now and just recently found my way to Orothodoxy, this resonates with me. Thank you brother for making this.
I have just got in to Orthodox, and I’m trying to figure which church I want attend. It’s definitely different from the way USA does Christianity. And The more I read and study the Orthodoxy the more I am feeling more joyful. Can’t wait to finally got to my first Orthodox Church.
@@ramario6195Види званична Руска пала 1918, Грчка 1924, Српска 1950, Загранична 2007, остала је Руска истинита православна црква. Нађи и моли се много.
I'm Serbian ortodox and this is now something that is well known in punk and metal scene, where many metalheads have inspirations from these ideas and some bands are all about the orthodox message. Good video
@@hikingmetaller2303 Есхатон (Eschaton), Gavranovi, Mizar, Deca Apokalipse, Bjesovi... There are some from Serbia, some from Macedonia and Montenegro etc... If I remember more I will put it in the comment but most of others are right wing bands so maybe check those yourself if you want. But there are many bands without the orthodox message in mind but there is a lot of symbolism and metaphors in the lyrics and aesthetics.
I went to my friend's Orthodox church with her and told the father after service "Black Sabbath is why I'm here". He was pretty confused and amused and asked me if he could quote me on that. I was pretty serious, so I said yeah and told him to listen to After Forever when he had the time. Despite listening to Sleep and OM a ton, I had no clue that this was even a thing. The longer I live and look at what's going on around me, the more I want to abandon modern society just and focus on what's important in life. I don't think I can buy into the books 100%, but I can tell you that for me, the teachings and lessons I got from that Orthodox church has definitely been wayyy more beneficial to my well being than the alternatives. Thank you for enlightening me on this. And I must also give thanks to the TH-cam botnet for summoning me this video. Love will overcome, brother.
Keep going to Divine Liturgy and talk to the Priest. Also, read Fr. Seraphim Rose's book "Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age." It is not mere coincidence that these things have happened in your life.
I'm a metalhead since teenage years, i drowned myself in slipknot, slayer, korn, in flames, bullet for my valentine, killswitch engage As hardcore atheist I still respected people with different faiths, as I believed this to be the right thing in a world that splits groups wherever possible. Metal was a strong uniting force opposed to what was going on mainstream. Today I'm on my way to orthodoxy. I came from a different route through symbolism, but its heartwarming to see the metal folks again. Yes, retrospectively I'm not really wondering.
one of the cooler moments of converting to orthodoxy, for me, was how many people at my church, young and old, went to go listen to my music when they found out i'm a heavy metal singer. way more compliments than i ever got from my secular community.
Great video! I am a convert to Eastern Orthodoxy, Seraphim Rose brought me to it. I discovered Death to the World shortly after. I play in a Death Metal band. Huge fan of Sleep, OM, and High on Fire. Can't spread the good news enough. All the best brother!
Seraphim Rose brought me to Orthodoxy as well. I'm not sure why I'm watching this video, just browsing videos early in the morning, but I saw your comment! Amen!!!
I'm just glad somebody began drawing parallels. Makes perfect sense how a way of life and spirituality would resonate (pun intended) with a certain music genre that depends on low notes. Greetings from Macedonia, a non-recognized Orthodox Christian country.
I recently went through a skater/stoner/punk faze a couple years ago and thought i was a rebel, now i have found Christ and the true Church and strive to be a part of the last true rebellion. God Bless you all
OM and Wovenhand have brought me back to believing and being a follower of Jesus. As I age its easier to see through all the lies and the snares of the Devil. And I have found more strength in this path. More to the story but not enough time to write it all. Bottom line is I have found peace and supernatural healing through our Lord.
sort of same. i was raised roman catholic, converted to buddhism. OM and sabbath as well as the Quran brought the appeal of an abrahamic god back into my life. im a universalist now, kinda like OM, i mix a little bit of everything. christian mysticism, hinduism, buddhism, sufism. all of these meditative traditions help peel back the veil of this world
@@SludgeMan90 Hey, dude! Being a monk is not about run away from society, but dive in God's mystery and live for Him. If you want, read the book "The Way of a Pilgrim (or The Pilgrim's Tale). Fucking amazing book written by a pilgrim on his journey to find God for real.
I love this video. It combines two things I absolutely love, metal and Orthodoxy. It's also very well made. Thank you so much for making this video and God bless 🙌
I love reading all these comments from fellow Christians! I’ve been a metal head since I was kid (parents were both into it) and Christianity felt like the lamest thing ever haha. OM (and a pretty crazy mushroom trip) led me down a path back towards real spirituality and lockdown resulted in a final reckoning with God. Reading interviews with Al Cisneros talking about Abrahmic theology genuinely helped me get over that aversion I had to it. Peace and love to all ❤
@@dextervortexsungte5348 They are only « real » for as long as you believe in them. Which is fine as long as you don’t hurt others and/or limit their freedom from forcing that belief on them. but imo God is definitely a metaphysical/spiritual concept more than a physical entity. But I predict this debate will go nowhere, so let’s end it here and have a good day my friend ;)
As a metal lover and a follower of christ it brings me so much joy to know that our brothers and sisters of the orthodox sect appreciate music just as much, may God bless you all :)
Monasticism really is the only answer to the severity of the distortion in the world, the true monk integrates his spirituality so he can walk among the laymen as a layman. May peace be with us.
OM and Sleep are literally 2 music projects I listened to the most through the last years. We’ve seen polish guys from Batushka (now known as Batushka and БАТЮШКА, lol) and other black metal and northern stoner bands try to change the reception of orthodox attributes to be seen as anti-theistic or non-life-performative, as we could say. But OM did something they missed - embraced orthodox traditions and then turned’em up to extreme ascetic sounding music
@@baileys6346 They are obviously mocking orthodoxy. The paradox is that in doing so they have unintentionally turned more metalheads towards orthodoxy than many preachers. God has this power of turning evil into good.
I have a funny story. For a while I worked as a cleaner in a retirement home for priests. It was kind of commedical to work there as a metalhead but one day I overheard one priest listening to Naziha Azzouz & Adel Salameh - Risalla and figured that maybe, just maybe, the man would be interested in Om too. So I burned a CD for him (Advaitic Songs) to see if he were perhaps open for it. Now, what I did not think of, was that this man obviously was a lot older than me and his ears had not been what they had been. So when he played the cd, he put it on full volume, shaking the entire appartement and him turning it off after a while. He wasnt so much moved by the form of Christianity in it however. Perhaps because of his priesthood (he was a Franciscan priest), but more likely because me not being able to explain what this project was about. I hope however, that without me, he might have given it another chance.
I am a convert to Catholicism and I very much so enjoyed this!! I used to go to an Eastern Indian Orthodox Church for a while and had a very close friend who talked about death to the world. He used to be in the punk scene but Our Lord met him in a dark time and he gave His life to Christ. An amazing brother I miss him very much, but he used to love death to the world. Now I understand why. I love Orthodoxy by the way. So much wisdom! Attending Divine Liturgy changed my life. I ultimately ended up becoming Catholic, but Orthodoxy will always have a special place in my heart.
St Isaac, st Anthony of the desert, Saint Gerasimus of Jordan, St Francis of Asissi, and all the present ascetics who give up their lives to seek the One Truth. These are the unsung heroes we should try to follow in whatever capacity we can. They are a breath of fresh air in a world constantly seeking instant gratification that leads concealed and sneaky Addictions, dissatisfaction, and emptiness. But it all starts with following the ways of the Master, Jesus…
Brooo what I always felt Sleep’s music felt so spiritual almost like they were performing a ritual while playing. Such trance inducing music, great for meditation or just for gaining calm back after a long day.
The undefined punk movement and subsequent goth movement of the 70s and early 80s hinted at this. It was railroaded a different route by the music labels. I was glad to be making copies of DTTW as a Kinkos employee in the 90s. I'm glad I have this to share with my own children now that I'm an unrelatable old man. Господи Иисусе Христе сыне Божий помилуй нас
the message is strong and from a truly righteous and truth seeking place. i will say that i myself feel closer to Rudolf Steiners take on the subject that asceticism was the path of a bygone epoch and the truly rebellious movement is to live in the world but be not of it. Like thriving behind enemy lines, and being the life that grows in the rot at the center of the decaying husk of society. this to me resonates as the most diffuclt and fully subversive rebellion against the despiritualizing forces of Lucifer and Ahriman.
Great video. Being religious myself and a metalhead (not Christian, I'm Muslim) it very much seemed to me that "metal = satanic" is a stereotype. Metal is an expression of all sorts of emotions, all sorts of thoughts and beliefs. You have bands that are deeply left wing (Agathocles, Napalm Death, Terrorizer) and bands that are deeply right wing (Absurd, Graveland, Grand Belial's Key). There are bands that sing praises to God, and bands that blaspheme Him. Metal is intensity, whether it's intense love or hate, intense good or evil. That's what it means to me, personally. \m/
I never knew this about Sleep. But I guess I'm mostly familiar with them because I'm a High on Fire fan. Fascinating though. I'm mostly a fan of sludge, thrash, and progressive metal but do like a lot of stoner doom and although I'm not a Christian I do sometimes fantasize about a life as a monk at the Mount Atmos Monastery. If I wasnt married I would probably sell everything and try to start a life there. I wonder if there is some kind of psychological kinship between stoner doom fans and people who choose to live a life of austerity and asceticism.
@@Shagamaw-100 Yeah. I'm from the Gulf Coast and they were pretty popular back in the day down here. This tattoo artist I know used to be roommates with one of the band members awhile back after one of the other members died. Not familiar enough to know any of their names or remember many details of that history but got into their songs when I heard them. 'Scream of the butterfly' is particularly memorable.
It is great to know that someone has come to a similar conclusion about punk in relation to the truth. God bless you for posting this, and may God bless and work through punk rock to bring the scene to His Will amen.
Definitely can agree with seeking truth. I've always been into punk, hardcore scene and music that is authentic even if it's different and takes a bit to get into. Later in my life im still seeking truth and looking for answers. This will be a lifelong journey. Music is such a great way to express the quest for answering the question; who am I
there must be some kind of way to manifest this incredible energy of heavy metal music into something that humanity will cherish forever. you named some really good points here and I am happy to see that there is progress on this front. Θεός ο Υιός
Bones and skulls of deceassed monks are kept as a respect for the deceased monks. The monks that are alive are usually not scared about handling a skull, which is not something usual, often times this would only by done when relocating them for some reason. But sometimes a monk will want to watch a skull to remember that he too is mortal - for a monk, remembering death is part of his fight, a way to remember him there is a judgment day so he must keep going his spiritual efforts. As for the text, a monk has nothing to do with rebellion in the social sense, he used this word as a sense of distancing himself from the world itself. Speaking of monks, a christian monk's path is about humility. Look up the book written by Saint Silouan from Athos.
Cool video! Didn't know a lot of this stuff! Just saw Om live in Portland last Saturday for the second time. First time was like 15 years ago. Makes me feel old!
I was into the stoner/doom scene. I remember Om and Sleep quite well. I converted to Orthodoxy earlier this year, and I have been following DTTW for about a year, but I had no clue about the association between the zine and the scene until today!
I was working a coffee shop in 1998, selling my paintings from its walls and when 5 black robed men approached. It was before "The Matrix", but I knew something was different... I snuffed my cig on the sidewalk and greeted them. They said they'd been watching me and passed over a xerox 'zine called "Death to the World".
I'm Christian but I constantly bang hail Satan death and black and doom metal. I get the point of it. I don't need to make grand declarations against the devil to understand my own beliefs especially through art.
Excellent. Haven’t heard tho sounds of Sleep since late 90’s and it’s massive. After some Sleep I’ll listen to you essay that also seemed pretty based.
Om got me into Advaita and afterwards I read up a lot on the other far-eastern religions (and a bit on Islam, given their song Haqq-al Yaqin is phenomenal). I envy those who can enjoy the true orthodoxy, unpolluted by its worldly manifestation as the church - the Alyosha Karamazovs of the world. Living in Romania conditioned me against any form of Christianity (probably for the worse). Also, another comment here mentioned Wovenhand which I just checked out and is amazing. I'm glad I clicked on this video.
Romania was once so pious, how it must have fallen to have hurt your heart in such a way. The “world” has worked hard to take Europe away from Christ this past 100 years.
@@eldermillennial8330 well if by "fallen" you mean "abandoned the old ways" then don't worry, it's still pious. Too pious. It's obscenely ritualistic, primitive and politicized. Associating with the church is associating with an embittered cornered animal that thinks it is under attack so it growls and bites everyone around. It's not healthy for anyone involved.
@@raresmocanu1743 They see ancient cathedrals in Berlin and throughout Europe now practicing Hindu mysticism. I suppose becoming aggressively paranoid is all too tempting, and Trad Roman Catholics in particular are losing their minds because the Pope is supposed to be metaphysically immune to defection, as per the dogma of Vatican 1, yet here’s a mountain of evidence that he has done exactly that. I’m particularly embarrassed by people claiming to be Orthodox but hold such as Vlad Dracula as heroes and seem to be implicitly wishing that some maniac would do what he did to the Church’s enemies today. True Christians do not fight evil with worse evil.
Just today I was thinking to myself, what do Christians mean by "the world"? They say the Devil is lord of the world, but it is also said that God declared the world good, so there seems to be a discrepancy. I think this video clears it up. It often seems like if you ask yourself a clear question, the answer will present itself shortly.
That was a very interesting listen. I've heard of Om before, but I don't think I've ever listened to one of their tracks. With a backstory like that, I'll definitely give them a try
Doom metal is great medium for this more serious and traditional approach to Christianity. Stoner resonate with more Eastern and Orthodox soul, Epic Doom fit perfectly with Latin Catholicism in it's pure, conservative form.
Former diehard Christian (Protestant) here. But even I can see that there are diamonds in the rough that you can find, when you take what actually works and discard the nonsense. Much respect.
In a way, Orthodoxy is just applied Buddhism. The "passions" or the "world" are exactly what Buddha was warning against, and the middle way of simplicity, to join the Sangha or Buddhist orders as a monk, is to sever connections from the world and embrace God alone. Only indulging in what is necessary to live, to further understand the key to this liberation, is what is necessary, and although it may be true that (in the religion) there is no definitive conception of God, the ultimate truth that is given is exactly the same. The Orthodox Church just relies on much more literal means to communicate the same message.
Buddhism does not have a concept of God or god or gods. It is a form of Atheism. They are focusing on themselves (self-centric), while Christianity focuses on God (theocentric). They are proposing peaceful coexistence with evil, Christianity battles evil on all fronts. So many profound differences that I have a difficulty finding similarities.
Looking the images few memories came back.. Meeting an old friend many years after our lives took different paths outside a church on a mountain where our families have a cottage (no electric) he offered me some of his joint to smoke. Instead I try to convince him we don't need that crap to get somewhere and started to explain him I remember. Played a tune with an outside bell an a piece of metal they have. He was laughing I remember and I continued to be with him despite the fact I felt mocked. Met him some years later again, went to a nice view point we used to hang around joint again but no mood to explain anything that time. Few years ago I heard he passed away and year by year I get more dark outside. Things are getting harder and harder. Few days ago they told me to quit of that depressed music I hear at work but to my ears is salvation. That's how a.i brought me that video and never said to my old friend καλό σου ταξιδι ρε Νότη
I'm a musician signed to a small label. I made an entire album in praise of God inspired by Om and in that syle, the label loved it but rejected it after they learned what it was about. Oh well... Romans 8:28
Interesting stuff. I would caution however (as I would caution Catholics and any other Christians) that it is actually incorrect demonizing or equating the natural world with evil. "The world" consists of evil, but it also consists of good. A monk or a priest has a different vocation, and their relationship with the world will inherently be different. A lay person should not be avoiding engagement with the physical world, however.
"The world" and "the flesh" are used synonymously with the selfish passions of man. It's explained clearly enough in the video. I don't think it's incorrect or unbiblical at all.
@@siorghlas4616 I think it's used very literally in the text, i.e. that the world and the flesh are inherently evil. So, you know, Gnosticism. Biblical? Sure. Christian? Nope.
@@tuomasronnberg5244 You should check out biblical typology. It's a thoroughly interesting subject. Allot of the bible is much deeper than a strictly-literal interpretation would allow.
awesome vid dude, more of a Metaphysical Idealist with some Advaitic Vedanta influences myself, but this resonates deeply with me nonetheless. thankyou.
If you like going for infrequent weekly showers and raw exposure to the elements of nature, you could in theory do well in the ancient ascetic practices. But I think the danger for most people who'd do this purely from their own volition, is to likely become easy prey to delusions of grandeur before experiencing any struggles relating to body or other sense based discomfort, as a result of raw living, while also worshiping the Lord. Perhaps 9/10 times people will fail, because of that "first" hurdle/easiest trap. You need a level head and calm, all of the time.
wow, ok, I didn't know about Justin Marler and Death to the World... And this video, sometimes it shows images of insides of romanian orthodox churches. Indeed there might be a connection.
Whilst I don’t fully agree with all the philosophy/ideology behind it, this was certainty quite an intriguing video. Plus I can’t say no to discovering a band like OM.
I was not expecting something to have "orthodox" in the name to be any good at all, quite the oposite, but this touched my soul by reason instead of senseless suffering wich is usually what i came to associate with said word.
Sorry but this isn't Christian metal. There is ostensibly nothing about it that is Christian, let alone specifically Orthodox. Half their songs are about Egyptians.
@@panameadeplm You realize there’s such thing as Coptic Christians who are part of the Orthodox Church in Egypt? Most people always underestimate how much influence Christianity has had in metal music
@@ronald556 I mean I heard that king Tut was a black man and that Egypt was a black land, but the pyramids being Christian is a new one. Cool. Seriously though: No one said anything about Christian "influence." Black metal is almost exclusively based on Christian mythology. Black metal is not Christian metal. Are you with me so far? Are you sure? Do you want me to go through that with you again? Not that there is any overt Christian "influence" in Om's music, either, like I said. I really don't think the unseen orphic glows of ziggurat electron schools shining in a lantern filled sky over an array of swans to shed the object form is particularly related to Orthodox Christianity. Even a little bit.
@Ronald coptics are not Orthodox. It's right in the name. Orthodox is "right believing" and the coptics separated from the Church after the the fourth Ecumenical Council.
@@panameadeplm It baffles me how this dim witted comment section crowd can hear a vague reference to Christianity and think what theyre hearing must be pro-Christianity.
As I got older I started to lose interest in metal's constant flirtation with satanic ideals and imagery and started to see it for what it really is; it's not just that it's evil, it's a fake and gay controlled opposition to what people perceived as a Christian hegemony in the western world, despite that hegemony having already been terribly deteriorated even by that point. It's not cool to be running around with zero inhibitions allowing your passions to drag you from one mindless hedonistic pleasure to the next. When you're preoccupied with fulfilling every base desire that pops into your mind the showrunners don't even have to use any kind of hard power against you to keep you obedient because you're already a slave to your vices. There is nothing in this world more difficult, dark and BRUTAL than facing the reality of what really controls this world and denying your passions in pursuit of physical, mental and spiritual perfection, a standard that no man in this world save One has ever reached and can never truly reach.
I live right near an Greek Orthodox Church but I don’t speak Greek ,but I really want to go each Sunday I just love it in there even if I don’t understand the priest I admire all the artwork ,thoughts?
Becoming a monk is metal af
Once a monk said to his elder: ''I feel that I am dead to the world''
His elder calmly looked at him and said: ''If you are dead to the world, take off all of your clothes, go naked to the city and stay there, walking naked amongst the people''
The monk the replied in shock: ''But without clothes the other people will see me naked, will make example of me and mock at me''
And the elder finished: ''Dead people don't need clothes nor care for the mocking of others''
Someone should introduce him to the Hindu Naga & Aghori Baba.
@@russellsmith3567 mmm someone should introduce these guys to that elder
God once made a prophet preach naked
....oh...I thought it was deaf to the world..
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Metalhead to Orthodox pipeline is real and God blesses it. Death to the world. Great video
Its heart warming to know and think about
Glory to God
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Christ is risen!
He heard the call of the Lord and went
Being eastern orthodox myself I felt so good listening to the Om’s music… and only some time later I found this story and all jigsaws have fallen into place. This is my religion and my music. Peace to you, reader. Let there be no war between us Russians and you all.
May peace be with your spirit also. Holy Fathers Pray for us ☦️
Prayers and fairy tales will not end wars but no more christians might. it's been 2000 years and christians still tear the world apart saying "prayers and peace"
wake tf up
Amen my brother in Christ ✝️❤️☦️
Man I feel the same way I thought I was alone
same too. 🤍💙❤
I'm Greek orthodox. I was watching a documentary about the most "hardcore' orthodox monks in Mount Athos, that live with no electricity, with very little food / water etc. One of them was being interviewed, and he said that when he was living in society, he used to love to listen to Ozzy, Scorpions, Iron Maiden etc, and he was playing guitar on a band as a teenager
A Greek-Orthodox friend of mine from Australia knew a priest who played in a metal band. Seems to be quite the interesting pattern.
I always had a feeling that metal is the style of contemporary music that carries the spiritual in itself the most. Even genres that define themselves against Christianity, like black metal, ultimately rebel against that which has become rotten in the institutionalised forms of that tradition: the corruption, the all-show no-substance pharisee mentality, the vacuous mall-Christendom with no real spiritual content. To notice and stand against that indicates that you have an orientation towards the spiritual, but haven't found your path yet.
Not to mention the monk that waves the giant Greek flag at airforce planes passing over head ,he does it with such zeal that only a metal.head could do. Pretty kool.
And the long hair and beards.
@@viciouslady1340 like a manowar fan 😆
@@Floral_Green WHATS THE NAME OF DOCUMENTARY? WOULD LIKE TO WATCH IT
Having been a stoner and doom nut for almost 20 years now and just recently found my way to Orothodoxy, this resonates with me. Thank you brother for making this.
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I have just got in to Orthodox, and I’m trying to figure which church I want attend. It’s definitely different from the way USA does Christianity. And The more I read and study the Orthodoxy the more I am feeling more joyful. Can’t wait to finally got to my first Orthodox Church.
@@ramario6195Види званична Руска пала 1918, Грчка 1924, Српска 1950, Загранична 2007, остала је Руска истинита православна црква. Нађи и моли се много.
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I'm Serbian ortodox and this is now something that is well known in punk and metal scene, where many metalheads have inspirations from these ideas and some bands are all about the orthodox message. Good video
Balkani metal/punk is a big mystery to me. Could you be bothered to write down some of the bands that has orthodox esthetics and message?
@@hikingmetaller2303 Есхатон (Eschaton), Gavranovi, Mizar, Deca Apokalipse, Bjesovi... There are some from Serbia, some from Macedonia and Montenegro etc... If I remember more I will put it in the comment but most of others are right wing bands so maybe check those yourself if you want. But there are many bands without the orthodox message in mind but there is a lot of symbolism and metaphors in the lyrics and aesthetics.
@@hikingmetaller2303 chemical tomb
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@@hikingmetaller2303 gavranovi, the stone, you should start with that. There are a lot of great metal bands in Serbia, I'll also post more
I went to my friend's Orthodox church with her and told the father after service "Black Sabbath is why I'm here". He was pretty confused and amused and asked me if he could quote me on that. I was pretty serious, so I said yeah and told him to listen to After Forever when he had the time. Despite listening to Sleep and OM a ton, I had no clue that this was even a thing. The longer I live and look at what's going on around me, the more I want to abandon modern society just and focus on what's important in life. I don't think I can buy into the books 100%, but I can tell you that for me, the teachings and lessons I got from that Orthodox church has definitely been wayyy more beneficial to my well being than the alternatives. Thank you for enlightening me on this. And I must also give thanks to the TH-cam botnet for summoning me this video. Love will overcome, brother.
Glory to God ☦️ Beautiful, Thank you
Phil Anselmo told me directly that Jesus Christ was Lord and Savior and that got me seeking.
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@@MessianicJewJitsu pls elaborate
Keep going to Divine Liturgy and talk to the Priest. Also, read Fr. Seraphim Rose's book "Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age." It is not mere coincidence that these things have happened in your life.
I'm a metalhead since teenage years, i drowned myself in slipknot, slayer, korn, in flames, bullet for my valentine, killswitch engage
As hardcore atheist I still respected people with different faiths, as I believed this to be the right thing in a world that splits groups wherever possible.
Metal was a strong uniting force opposed to what was going on mainstream.
Today I'm on my way to orthodoxy. I came from a different route through symbolism, but its heartwarming to see the metal folks again.
Yes, retrospectively I'm not really wondering.
one of the cooler moments of converting to orthodoxy, for me, was how many people at my church, young and old, went to go listen to my music when they found out i'm a heavy metal singer. way more compliments than i ever got from my secular community.
Great video! I am a convert to Eastern Orthodoxy, Seraphim Rose brought me to it. I discovered Death to the World shortly after. I play in a Death Metal band. Huge fan of Sleep, OM, and High on Fire. Can't spread the good news enough. All the best brother!
Seraphim Rose brought me to Orthodoxy as well. I'm not sure why I'm watching this video, just browsing videos early in the morning, but I saw your comment! Amen!!!
My Nona wanted me to become a Greek Orthodox monk because I didn’t get married. Laughed until I saw this.. might be coming full circle
I'm just glad somebody began drawing parallels. Makes perfect sense how a way of life and spirituality would resonate (pun intended) with a certain music genre that depends on low notes. Greetings from Macedonia, a non-recognized Orthodox Christian country.
Thank you for dropping by, Yoda! Glory Forever!
I recently went through a skater/stoner/punk faze a couple years ago and thought i was a rebel, now i have found Christ and the true Church and strive to be a part of the last true rebellion. God Bless you all
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What
This feels like one of those "I was a rebel and then I found christ" stories propagated by the church. Feels fake as fuck ngl
Now begins the real rebellion, brother.
OM and Wovenhand have brought me back to believing and being a follower of Jesus. As I age its easier to see through all the lies and the snares of the Devil. And I have found more strength in this path. More to the story but not enough time to write it all. Bottom line is I have found peace and supernatural healing through our Lord.
Glory to God ☦️
@@that_sun_guy6527 OM is a band. With very heavy religious overtones. Look them up and listen. Album and song titles make it very evident.
sort of same. i was raised roman catholic, converted to buddhism. OM and sabbath as well as the Quran brought the appeal of an abrahamic god back into my life. im a universalist now, kinda like OM, i mix a little bit of everything. christian mysticism, hinduism, buddhism, sufism. all of these meditative traditions help peel back the veil of this world
Jesus is the Lord, and Son of God. There are no other gods but Him, RALAN.
I never would have thought my interests in metal and theology would ever collide. But here we are! Very interesting video.
I am almost 46, and I would love to live out the rest of my days in a remote monastery.
can i join do? I am too fatigued of society
@@SludgeMan90 Hey, dude! Being a monk is not about run away from society, but dive in God's mystery and live for Him. If you want, read the book "The Way of a Pilgrim (or The Pilgrim's Tale). Fucking amazing book written by a pilgrim on his journey to find God for real.
go and do so
Most of the time it's as simple as going to the monastery you want to join and just ask
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Just a simple Catholic wishing you all love and peace. Thank you for the video.
I was a metalhead in youth and then became highly religious orthodox Christian.
I love this video. It combines two things I absolutely love, metal and Orthodoxy. It's also very well made. Thank you so much for making this video and God bless 🙌
Thank you
check out the band GOSPOD they are orthodox metal
I love reading all these comments from fellow Christians! I’ve been a metal head since I was kid (parents were both into it) and Christianity felt like the lamest thing ever haha. OM (and a pretty crazy mushroom trip) led me down a path back towards real spirituality and lockdown resulted in a final reckoning with God. Reading interviews with Al Cisneros talking about Abrahmic theology genuinely helped me get over that aversion I had to it. Peace and love to all ❤
God is not real my brother
@@ongobongo8333 god is real....bud, you need jesus
@@ongobongo8333 my brother, quit being a self righteous douchebag
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They are only « real » for as long as you believe in them. Which is fine as long as you don’t hurt others and/or limit their freedom from forcing that belief on them. but imo God is definitely a metaphysical/spiritual concept more than a physical entity. But I predict this debate will go nowhere, so let’s end it here and have a good day my friend ;)
@@rellik0098 he is omnipresent, have a good sunday ✝️
As a metal lover and a follower of christ it brings me so much joy to know that our brothers and sisters of the orthodox sect appreciate music just as much, may God bless you all :)
Glad you enjoyed 🤘💀☦️
Monasticism really is the only answer to the severity of the distortion in the world, the true monk integrates his spirituality so he can walk among the laymen as a layman.
May peace be with us.
OM and Sleep are literally 2 music projects I listened to the most through the last years. We’ve seen polish guys from Batushka (now known as Batushka and БАТЮШКА, lol) and other black metal and northern stoner bands try to change the reception of orthodox attributes to be seen as anti-theistic or non-life-performative, as we could say. But OM did something they missed - embraced orthodox traditions and then turned’em up to extreme ascetic sounding music
Isn’t batushka anti-religious?
@@baileys6346 They are obviously mocking orthodoxy. The paradox is that in doing so they have unintentionally turned more metalheads towards orthodoxy than many preachers. God has this power of turning evil into good.
I used to get copies of Death to the World at the Valaam Bookstore in Chico when I was in college.
I have a funny story. For a while I worked as a cleaner in a retirement home for priests. It was kind of commedical to work there as a metalhead but one day I overheard one priest listening to Naziha Azzouz & Adel Salameh - Risalla and figured that maybe, just maybe, the man would be interested in Om too. So I burned a CD for him (Advaitic Songs) to see if he were perhaps open for it. Now, what I did not think of, was that this man obviously was a lot older than me and his ears had not been what they had been. So when he played the cd, he put it on full volume, shaking the entire appartement and him turning it off after a while.
He wasnt so much moved by the form of Christianity in it however. Perhaps because of his priesthood (he was a Franciscan priest), but more likely because me not being able to explain what this project was about. I hope however, that without me, he might have given it another chance.
This was wonderful. I just got in to the Orthodox. The more I study the more I really enjoy it.
Welcome ☦️
Those are some heavy ass words. I’ve rolled it back a few times. Amazing. Appreciate you man
At the edge of the universe, there is a barrier made of solidified based. Beyond that, there is this.
Loadin’ up the caravan - LET’S GO!
😂 👌
I am a convert to Catholicism and I very much so enjoyed this!! I used to go to an Eastern Indian Orthodox Church for a while and had a very close friend who talked about death to the world. He used to be in the punk scene but Our Lord met him in a dark time and he gave His life to Christ. An amazing brother I miss him very much, but he used to love death to the world. Now I understand why. I love Orthodoxy by the way. So much wisdom! Attending Divine Liturgy changed my life. I ultimately ended up becoming Catholic, but Orthodoxy will always have a special place in my heart.
Orthodoxy is not about "wisdom", it's about enduring theosis and walking the narrow and royal path, which is to be a Christian. The pope is a heretic.
I love how the metalheads style fits so well with Orthodoxy and Catholiocisim.
@@yungvofficial Agree 100%
St Isaac, st Anthony of the desert, Saint Gerasimus of Jordan, St Francis of Asissi, and all the present ascetics who give up their lives to seek the One Truth. These are the unsung heroes we should try to follow in whatever capacity we can. They are a breath of fresh air in a world constantly seeking instant gratification that leads concealed and sneaky Addictions, dissatisfaction, and emptiness. But it all starts with following the ways of the Master, Jesus…
Brooo what I always felt Sleep’s music felt so spiritual almost like they were performing a ritual while playing. Such trance inducing music, great for meditation or just for gaining calm back after a long day.
1:46 sounds like a really intense table tennis match
This is the most metal thing I have ever seen! 🤘🏽💯✨🔥
(Heavy Dope smoker riff plays in the distance)
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It almost makes me wonder if Dopesmoker was written with Justin in mind.
The undefined punk movement and subsequent goth movement of the 70s and early 80s hinted at this. It was railroaded a different route by the music labels.
I was glad to be making copies of DTTW as a Kinkos employee in the 90s.
I'm glad I have this to share with my own children now that I'm an unrelatable old man.
Господи Иисусе Христе сыне Божий помилуй нас
Some great mystic wisdom from Brother Marler. Thank you for this excellent piece of music history.
the message is strong and from a truly righteous and truth seeking place. i will say that i myself feel closer to Rudolf Steiners take on the subject that asceticism was the path of a bygone epoch and the truly rebellious movement is to live in the world but be not of it. Like thriving behind enemy lines, and being the life that grows in the rot at the center of the decaying husk of society. this to me resonates as the most diffuclt and fully subversive rebellion against the despiritualizing forces of Lucifer and Ahriman.
Wow!! Thank you
@@AlecHawkins god bless you on the path brother 🦊🙏
Great video. Being religious myself and a metalhead (not Christian, I'm Muslim) it very much seemed to me that "metal = satanic" is a stereotype. Metal is an expression of all sorts of emotions, all sorts of thoughts and beliefs. You have bands that are deeply left wing (Agathocles, Napalm Death, Terrorizer) and bands that are deeply right wing (Absurd, Graveland, Grand Belial's Key). There are bands that sing praises to God, and bands that blaspheme Him.
Metal is intensity, whether it's intense love or hate, intense good or evil. That's what it means to me, personally. \m/
I never knew this about Sleep. But I guess I'm mostly familiar with them because I'm a High on Fire fan. Fascinating though. I'm mostly a fan of sludge, thrash, and progressive metal but do like a lot of stoner doom and although I'm not a Christian I do sometimes fantasize about a life as a monk at the Mount Atmos Monastery. If I wasnt married I would probably sell everything and try to start a life there. I wonder if there is some kind of psychological kinship between stoner doom fans and people who choose to live a life of austerity and asceticism.
Well, yes - I’d say some of us are searching for something higher ;)
@@AlecHawkins 😄Ain't that the truth.
"The riff-filled land."
@@hermestrismagistos3145 Ever listened to the sludge band Acid Bath?
@@Shagamaw-100 Yeah. I'm from the Gulf Coast and they were pretty popular back in the day down here. This tattoo artist I know used to be roommates with one of the band members awhile back after one of the other members died. Not familiar enough to know any of their names or remember many details of that history but got into their songs when I heard them. 'Scream of the butterfly' is particularly memorable.
It is great to know that someone has come to a similar conclusion about punk in relation to the truth. God bless you for posting this, and may God bless and work through punk rock to bring the scene to His Will amen.
Thank you!
Definitely can agree with seeking truth. I've always been into punk, hardcore scene and music that is authentic even if it's different and takes a bit to get into. Later in my life im still seeking truth and looking for answers. This will be a lifelong journey. Music is such a great way to express the quest for answering the question; who am I
The things spoken of in "death to the world" is insanely true.
there must be some kind of way to manifest this incredible energy of heavy metal music into something that humanity will cherish forever. you named some really good points here and I am happy to see that there is progress on this front. Θεός ο Υιός
Thank you for your wonderful comment. God wants us to create art to change the world. THY WILL BE DONE 💀☦
Bones and skulls of deceassed monks are kept as a respect for the deceased monks. The monks that are alive are usually not scared about handling a skull, which is not something usual, often times this would only by done when relocating them for some reason. But sometimes a monk will want to watch a skull to remember that he too is mortal - for a monk, remembering death is part of his fight, a way to remember him there is a judgment day so he must keep going his spiritual efforts. As for the text, a monk has nothing to do with rebellion in the social sense, he used this word as a sense of distancing himself from the world itself. Speaking of monks, a christian monk's path is about humility. Look up the book written by Saint Silouan from Athos.
Cool video! Didn't know a lot of this stuff! Just saw Om live in Portland last Saturday for the second time. First time was like 15 years ago. Makes me feel old!
Saw them right before the lockdown. Unforgettable!!
I can respect that. It takes big bawls to walk away from the world.
I was into the stoner/doom scene. I remember Om and Sleep quite well. I converted to Orthodoxy earlier this year, and I have been following DTTW for about a year, but I had no clue about the association between the zine and the scene until today!
Hahahah I love how you started playing stoner metal with your mouth as an outro, pure love bro very interesting video 👍
I was working a coffee shop in 1998, selling my paintings from its walls and when 5 black robed men approached. It was before "The Matrix", but I knew something was different... I snuffed my cig on the sidewalk and greeted them. They said they'd been watching me and passed over a xerox 'zine called "Death to the World".
Whoa!!
@@AlecHawkins Still friends with some of them.
@@jeremiahshine Glory to God
@@AlecHawkins No other place for it.
Totally happened
I'm Christian but I constantly bang hail Satan death and black and doom metal. I get the point of it. I don't need to make grand declarations against the devil to understand my own beliefs especially through art.
Excellent. Haven’t heard tho sounds of Sleep since late 90’s and it’s massive. After some Sleep I’ll listen to you essay that also seemed pretty based.
Om got me into Advaita and afterwards I read up a lot on the other far-eastern religions (and a bit on Islam, given their song Haqq-al Yaqin is phenomenal).
I envy those who can enjoy the true orthodoxy, unpolluted by its worldly manifestation as the church - the Alyosha Karamazovs of the world. Living in Romania conditioned me against any form of Christianity (probably for the worse).
Also, another comment here mentioned Wovenhand which I just checked out and is amazing. I'm glad I clicked on this video.
So many great comments. Yours are such a blessing to receive on Sunday
Romania was once so pious, how it must have fallen to have hurt your heart in such a way. The “world” has worked hard to take Europe away from Christ this past 100 years.
@@eldermillennial8330 well if by "fallen" you mean "abandoned the old ways" then don't worry, it's still pious. Too pious. It's obscenely ritualistic, primitive and politicized. Associating with the church is associating with an embittered cornered animal that thinks it is under attack so it growls and bites everyone around. It's not healthy for anyone involved.
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Do you mean Trad Catholics, Orthodox, or both?
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They see ancient cathedrals in Berlin and throughout Europe now practicing Hindu mysticism. I suppose becoming aggressively paranoid is all too tempting, and Trad Roman Catholics in particular are losing their minds because the Pope is supposed to be metaphysically immune to defection, as per the dogma of Vatican 1, yet here’s a mountain of evidence that he has done exactly that.
I’m particularly embarrassed by people claiming to be Orthodox but hold such as Vlad Dracula as heroes and seem to be implicitly wishing that some maniac would do what he did to the Church’s enemies today. True Christians do not fight evil with worse evil.
Thank you for sharing what influences
And thank you for the lovely comment
Excellent!
Very cool stuff, i like the sentiment and energy
Just today I was thinking to myself, what do Christians mean by "the world"? They say the Devil is lord of the world, but it is also said that God declared the world good, so there seems to be a discrepancy. I think this video clears it up. It often seems like if you ask yourself a clear question, the answer will present itself shortly.
A S K matt 7:7
That was a very interesting listen. I've heard of Om before, but I don't think I've ever listened to one of their tracks. With a backstory like that, I'll definitely give them a try
Super super cool! I love this!
Despite the message in the extreme metal scene, the lyrics actually made me closer to God.
beautiful work
I love that fanzine!!
Great watch! More of this, please!
Doom metal is great medium for this more serious and traditional approach to Christianity.
Stoner resonate with more Eastern and Orthodox soul, Epic Doom fit perfectly with Latin Catholicism in it's pure, conservative form.
Former diehard Christian (Protestant) here. But even I can see that there are diamonds in the rough that you can find, when you take what actually works and discard the nonsense. Much respect.
Yes, discard the rest. Thank you ☦️
Brother. We need more. God bless you
In a way, Orthodoxy is just applied Buddhism. The "passions" or the "world" are exactly what Buddha was warning against, and the middle way of simplicity, to join the Sangha or Buddhist orders as a monk, is to sever connections from the world and embrace God alone. Only indulging in what is necessary to live, to further understand the key to this liberation, is what is necessary, and although it may be true that (in the religion) there is no definitive conception of God, the ultimate truth that is given is exactly the same. The Orthodox Church just relies on much more literal means to communicate the same message.
Super informative comment. Thank you for posting
this is because Buddhism contained the seed of Christianity, and Christ is the answer to the question that Buddhism gets us to ask.
Buddhism does not have a concept of God or god or gods. It is a form of Atheism. They are focusing on themselves (self-centric), while Christianity focuses on God (theocentric). They are proposing peaceful coexistence with evil, Christianity battles evil on all fronts. So many profound differences that I have a difficulty finding similarities.
lord have mercy
Very interesting indeed. Dragonaut Will always be one of my all time songs ever.
“Gummo brought me here”
When they're blazing down the road with their bags of street meat has burnt a spot in my hippocampus.
@@opethfantoo3140 always hawngry when the caravan dreads by
My ability to express me fails me. But thank you for uploading this.
Thanks! Awesome comment. Appreciate you
Looking the images few memories came back..
Meeting an old friend many years after our lives took different paths outside a church on a mountain where our families have a cottage (no electric) he offered me some of his joint to smoke. Instead I try to convince him we don't need that crap to get somewhere and started to explain him I remember. Played a tune with an outside bell an a piece of metal they have. He was laughing I remember and I continued to be with him despite the fact I felt mocked. Met him some years later again, went to a nice view point we used to hang around joint again but no mood to explain anything that time. Few years ago I heard he passed away and year by year I get more dark outside. Things are getting harder and harder. Few days ago they told me to quit of that depressed music I hear at work but to my ears is salvation. That's how a.i brought me that video and never said to my old friend καλό σου ταξιδι ρε Νότη
I'm a musician signed to a small label. I made an entire album in praise of God inspired by Om and in that syle, the label loved it but rejected it after they learned what it was about. Oh well... Romans 8:28
I wanna hear it
Interesting stuff. I would caution however (as I would caution Catholics and any other Christians) that it is actually incorrect demonizing or equating the natural world with evil. "The world" consists of evil, but it also consists of good. A monk or a priest has a different vocation, and their relationship with the world will inherently be different. A lay person should not be avoiding engagement with the physical world, however.
All my homies (Plotinus et al) look down on Gnosticism.
"The world" and "the flesh" are used synonymously with the selfish passions of man. It's explained clearly enough in the video. I don't think it's incorrect or unbiblical at all.
@@siorghlas4616 Aye, it’s a semantic distinction. There’s no excuse for confusion one terms have been defined in context.
@@siorghlas4616 I think it's used very literally in the text, i.e. that the world and the flesh are inherently evil. So, you know, Gnosticism. Biblical? Sure. Christian? Nope.
@@tuomasronnberg5244 You should check out biblical typology. It's a thoroughly interesting subject. Allot of the bible is much deeper than a strictly-literal interpretation would allow.
I've been stoned for the past 3 years and this is what TH-cam gives me.
awesome vid dude, more of a Metaphysical Idealist with some Advaitic Vedanta influences myself, but this resonates deeply with me nonetheless. thankyou.
If you like going for infrequent weekly showers and raw exposure to the elements of nature, you could in theory do well in the ancient ascetic practices. But I think the danger for most people who'd do this purely from their own volition, is to likely become easy prey to delusions of grandeur before experiencing any struggles relating to body or other sense based discomfort, as a result of raw living, while also worshiping the Lord. Perhaps 9/10 times people will fail, because of that "first" hurdle/easiest trap. You need a level head and calm, all of the time.
This entire comment section is nothing but delusions of grandeur
I have collected SO many of their CDs.. sometimes seems like not enough..
Ah, my new favorite genre. Death to the world, indeed!
Funny, didn’t know this about OM, just liked the Christian themes as a Christian, nice to know
wow, ok, I didn't know about Justin Marler and Death to the World... And this video, sometimes it shows images of insides of romanian orthodox churches. Indeed there might be a connection.
Whilst I don’t fully agree with all the philosophy/ideology behind it, this was certainty quite an intriguing video. Plus I can’t say no to discovering a band like OM.
Fascinating topic, cool video dude. Love these guys
Thanks!! Your channel is SiCK
@@AlecHawkins I even forgot I ever uploaded any videos, thanks dude
I was not expecting something to have "orthodox" in the name to be any good at all, quite the oposite, but this touched my soul by reason instead of senseless suffering wich is usually what i came to associate with said word.
You must be looking at the wrong "orthodox" things my friend. Hope you will maybe open your heart to the Church just a little. God bless :)
What is senseless suffering oppose to senseless pleasure?
Orthodox just means “correct teaching” but that’s because it is, for every generation, for thousands of years
@@del-marmare1646 senseless pleasure is cool wtf are you on about
Cope, return to Christ
I thank God this was recommended to me.
Glory to God ☦️
Great vid! I subscribed and looking forward to more, Stoke to check out your catalog.
Thank you, bro!!
People always underestimate how awesome Christian metal is.
Sorry but this isn't Christian metal. There is ostensibly nothing about it that is Christian, let alone specifically Orthodox. Half their songs are about Egyptians.
@@panameadeplm You realize there’s such thing as Coptic Christians who are part of the Orthodox Church in Egypt? Most people always underestimate how much influence Christianity has had in metal music
@@ronald556 I mean I heard that king Tut was a black man and that Egypt was a black land, but the pyramids being Christian is a new one. Cool. Seriously though:
No one said anything about Christian "influence."
Black metal is almost exclusively based on Christian mythology.
Black metal is not Christian metal.
Are you with me so far? Are you sure? Do you want me to go through that with you again?
Not that there is any overt Christian "influence" in Om's music, either, like I said. I really don't think the unseen orphic glows of ziggurat electron schools shining in a lantern filled sky over an array of swans to shed the object form is particularly related to Orthodox Christianity. Even a little bit.
@Ronald coptics are not Orthodox. It's right in the name. Orthodox is "right believing" and the coptics separated from the Church after the the fourth Ecumenical Council.
@@panameadeplm It baffles me how this dim witted comment section crowd can hear a vague reference to Christianity and think what theyre hearing must be pro-Christianity.
Thanks for sharing.
As I got older I started to lose interest in metal's constant flirtation with satanic ideals and imagery and started to see it for what it really is; it's not just that it's evil, it's a fake and gay controlled opposition to what people perceived as a Christian hegemony in the western world, despite that hegemony having already been terribly deteriorated even by that point. It's not cool to be running around with zero inhibitions allowing your passions to drag you from one mindless hedonistic pleasure to the next. When you're preoccupied with fulfilling every base desire that pops into your mind the showrunners don't even have to use any kind of hard power against you to keep you obedient because you're already a slave to your vices. There is nothing in this world more difficult, dark and BRUTAL than facing the reality of what really controls this world and denying your passions in pursuit of physical, mental and spiritual perfection, a standard that no man in this world save One has ever reached and can never truly reach.
Huh I never learned what happened to Sleep
Incredible
Video goes hard bro.
Subscribed.
Great video man, did wish it went on for a bit longer and covered their songs a little bit. A video on Om would be cool as well.
This is so badass
For me it's the humming of stoner guitars at the end 🤙
Where do I get these? I’d love to have a couple of copies to keep with me. I really like them
link in the description
Beautiful, and inspiring
I live right near an Greek Orthodox Church but I don’t speak Greek ,but I really want to go each Sunday I just love it in there even if I don’t understand the priest I admire all the artwork ,thoughts?
Go anyway
Good stuff. 🖐
8:40 the greatest film ever made - Ordet, by K.T. Dreyer
Can we please talk about that block of wood being absolutely shredded at 1:48?
Does it have a name?
Semantra
oh wow i didnt know om consisted of former sleep members.