Unfortunately the disk sander I use in this video is discontinued. However, Harbor Freight does offer a nicer belt sander that will do the job just as easy; it is more expensive, but it is a good tool to have should you make the purchase and with their 20% off coupon, it will still be affordable around $40. Here is a link... www.harborfreight.com/1-in-x-30-in-belt-sander-60543.html
Where was u when i had my Banshee... all that stuff that i could b doing myself just by watching your bad ass videos smdh... Someday il have me another one Thanks for these videos Michael Sabo great work and clear videos...
Great video as usual Mike. Two safety related cautions: 1. ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION when using power tools, especially sanders and grinders. 2. To avoid injury from flying parts, only sand the part using the down spinning side of the disk, never the up spinning side. Turn the part over instead of moving it to the up spinning side of the disk.
What's up Leo! I can always count on you to keep me in check! You'll be happy to know that I had my glasses on. The reason I didn't flip the star was because of the posts that stick out; I felt more comfortable working with it on the flat side. See you soon Leo!
Finally, someone that knows what they are doing. instant Sub without second thinking it. my dirt bike (Chinese) is not shifting into 2 and 4 its like skipping them. I want to know if its the detent arm or the clutch. I'm not too familiar with small engines but ill give it a go. I want to crack the engine open and see what I find but since its all mechanical I'm afraid that ill open it and things falling out or moving in there and not catching how it goes back together. When I open it up I will also take this shift mod and perform it on my dirt bike because its hard finding neural and my gears aren't as smooth.
This is really helpful man thanks! Love the channel and the vids!!! I think I will definitely be doing the shift star mod! My banshee has always been a pain in the ass to get into neutral
That detent is oem banshee drilled out bearing and bolt i tossed mine cause of the bolt over time it might break might not has to be high tensile and locktighted hopefully Also the shift shaft mod is a mod of elongated slot on the spring end of the shaft that lets the shaft go just a bit further to allow for worn parts to still shift easy. Fast dose it for free when you buy their shift shaft.you can do it yourself easier than the star mod
By the looks of those screws the previous owner doesn't own a J.I.S. screwdriver lol. I have the Kobalt 1/2" and 3/8" impact, impact driver and drill and love 'em
Good video Michael as always - I run Yamaha Blasters (build & race; busy with a +5 long rod motor currently) and the shift star mod works a treat on them too although I take 1/2mm less off the radius
The only thing I would've added was measurement before and after of how much you took off. Doesn't matter too much tho your just smoothing it down like you said in the video
Anyone have a good answer on why the lobes were so high and sharp stock? May be a dumb question, but could there be an issue with the gears meshing or synchronizing?
Hey Mike, thanks for another great video. I've never felt that shifting was a problem though. But as you said at the beginning of your video, finding neutral sucks! Now that you've had time to ride since the mod, is it any easier to get into neutral ? Since nothing is done to the neutral detent, can't think of why it would be. I've been thinking of doing this mod for years and now I have the clutch side cover off to rebuild the water pump. While I'm at it, gonna replace the clutch since I'm in there and... Well you know how this affliction goes 😁
now im in the middle of building my banshee using this as a reference, (great video). so im wondering with that shift star being modded is there a chance that the detent can get stuck and isnt shifting to the slots everytime? im just worried about going to the next step with this happening like it would be "stuck in gear" type thing. kind of like in your video at 14:03! Thanks in advance!
Thanks man..like always I love your videos 👍.I'm doing the shift star mode to my banshee .I hade 4 surgeries on my left foot and ankle. and my up and down movements are limited so I hope this modification will help me shift better.
DONT RUN THE ROLLER BEARING SHIFT DETENT! Trust me. Yamaha had a recall for them in the 2005-2006 YZ125's since they fall apart over time and lock up your transmission, destroying everything in it. Please I beg you
Interesting... I'm going to look into this. Mac Daddy racing is a reputable company; I doubt they would sell these if they go bad like that. Maybe it was just an issue with the YZ125.
@@randommxname202 I am seeing a couple post on thumber talk about that. Should I be worried? I bought the bike with a brand new motor, and I shifted through the gears, and I only rode it 3 times already but it seems to be shifting fine.
@@skylerhealyvlogs9642 they shift fine until they fall apart haha. I did mine myself in my garage. Super easy, only took about 2 hours and while youre at it, change your shift shaft as well since youll need to take it out anyways to change the detent. A lot of bikes have already been changed to the bushing type already. If I were you, id just pop it open (you only need to take off the inner clutch cover) and take a peek for safety and peace of mind. If its the bearing, change it to a 2007 model shift detent. Thats what i did.
I know this video is old. but hopefully you can get back to me soon. i sold my drag set up. and bought a cub engine. but it has a stock tranny and clutch parts etc. when you rode your 421 was it hard to shift up a gear. or find neutral when sitting still after doing the shift mods?
I'm saving money to get a 521cc kit for my banshee. My banshee is stock and I'm already looking for supporting mods like extended swingarm probably a +8 or +10. I wanted to get the 611cc kit but the dealer said it's not recommend for what I do since it's only drag race kit.
@@erickmaldonado9177 I would call Steve at BP Racing and see what he recommends. Those guys have a ton of experience in building Banshees and they know what to run with those mods.
Hi Michael, Can I make this modification without removing the engine from the banshee? the changes happen very hard and it is difficult to find neutral. Thank you!
Is there any chance of it kicking out of gear doing this? My old two stroke sometimes when it had allot of strain in first gear would just kick into neutral sometimes second is that possible with this? Just wondering everyone in the comments don't need to be a jerk to me because I ask a question this time
John Smith what you are describing could be a slightly bent shift fork; during a crash the shifter could have been whacked, which can put force on one or all 3 shift forks. there could be no problems , some trouble, or a bike is jammed in one gear.you have to split your engine cases apart to get to them. Some MX bikes get get grumpier to shift , or find neutral, if the transmission oil is really old. The clutch will be grabby- er , possibly slip, if the trans. oil is worn, too.
Yes. This is a universal issue across many bike models, from Euro bikes to japanese bikes. It just seems like an afterthought to manufacturers from what I see researching this issue. Provided you don't have any other issue with the transmission that is.
I know it will work on a Yamaha Blaster too. The 660 has a shift cam with a similar star at the end, but it's different and I dont think this would work.
I use to know a Marcy Sabo from here in my area the Ohio valley. Wheeling W.V - S.T. Clairsville Ohio but I wonder if y'all might be related? But I just figured I would mention it. Have a good one!
Unfortunately the disk sander I use in this video is discontinued. However, Harbor Freight does offer a nicer belt sander that will do the job just as easy; it is more expensive, but it is a good tool to have should you make the purchase and with their 20% off coupon, it will still be affordable around $40. Here is a link...
www.harborfreight.com/1-in-x-30-in-belt-sander-60543.html
So, rip apart my newly assembled banshees as soon as I get home? Is that what your telling me to do Mike?😂
Where was u when i had my Banshee... all that stuff that i could b doing myself just by watching your bad ass videos smdh... Someday il have me another one Thanks for these videos Michael Sabo great work and clear videos...
Great video as usual Mike. Two safety related cautions:
1. ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION when using power tools, especially sanders and grinders.
2. To avoid injury from flying parts, only sand the part using the down spinning side of the disk, never the up spinning side. Turn the part over instead of moving it to the up spinning side of the disk.
What's up Leo! I can always count on you to keep me in check! You'll be happy to know that I had my glasses on. The reason I didn't flip the star was because of the posts that stick out; I felt more comfortable working with it on the flat side. See you soon Leo!
If your going the roller bearing route. Remove the seals before install so the bearing can run in the oil bath and live a long trouble free life.
Ya Honda's do shift awesome
So true
Every upload makes me wanna rip into my banshee lol great upload bro keep can’t wait for the next one
Haha thanks so much man!
Finally, someone that knows what they are doing. instant Sub without second thinking it. my dirt bike (Chinese) is not shifting into 2 and 4 its like skipping them. I want to know if its the detent arm or the clutch. I'm not too familiar with small engines but ill give it a go. I want to crack the engine open and see what I find but since its all mechanical I'm afraid that ill open it and things falling out or moving in there and not catching how it goes back together. When I open it up I will also take this shift mod and perform it on my dirt bike because its hard finding neural and my gears aren't as smooth.
This is really helpful man thanks! Love the channel and the vids!!! I think I will definitely be doing the shift star mod! My banshee has always been a pain in the ass to get into neutral
Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm glad you liked the video!
Great video as always man! Shift star mod is one of my favorite mods, cheap and easy right up my alley 🤙👊
👊
First comment! love your channel, keep up the good work
Thank you so much man!
Been enjoying your videos all morning, you’ll be known my millions one day, great videos keep it up 😀
Wow man, what a compliment; thank you so much for watching!
I like the music, most videos have trendy beats and garbage, not his, I can jam and learn at the same time.
That detent is oem banshee drilled out bearing and bolt i tossed mine cause of the bolt over time it might break might not has to be high tensile and locktighted hopefully
Also the shift shaft mod is a mod of elongated slot on the spring end of the shaft that lets the shaft go just a bit further to allow for worn parts to still shift easy. Fast dose it for free when you buy their shift shaft.you can do it yourself easier than the star mod
Deff tell someone was in there prior ...awesome build
Thank you man!
By the looks of those screws the previous owner doesn't own a J.I.S. screwdriver lol.
I have the Kobalt 1/2" and 3/8" impact, impact driver and drill and love 'em
Great video. I wish I'd heard of this mod before I put my engine together. My star is welded to the shift drum.
Good video Michael as always - I run Yamaha Blasters (build & race; busy with a +5 long rod motor currently) and the shift star mod works a treat on them too although I take 1/2mm less off the radius
Thank you man! I cant wait to feel the difference it makes.
Awesome detailed video!!!
Very very helpful information. Thank you so much Michael!
11:01 good advice
The only thing I would've added was measurement before and after of how much you took off. Doesn't matter too much tho your just smoothing it down like you said in the video
Look at those 2 screws behind that there all mashed up
Do a pro mod on that 4mill u won’t regret it
Great vid!👍
Anyone have a good answer on why the lobes were so high and sharp stock? May be a dumb question, but could there be an issue with the gears meshing or synchronizing?
Hey Mike, thanks for another great video.
I've never felt that shifting was a problem though. But as you said at the beginning of your video, finding neutral sucks! Now that you've had time to ride since the mod, is it any easier to get into neutral ? Since nothing is done to the neutral detent, can't think of why it would be.
I've been thinking of doing this mod for years and now I have the clutch side cover off to rebuild the water pump. While I'm at it, gonna replace the clutch since I'm in there and... Well you know how this affliction goes 😁
now im in the middle of building my banshee using this as a reference, (great video). so im wondering with that shift star being modded is there a chance that the detent can get stuck and isnt shifting to the slots everytime? im just worried about going to the next step with this happening like it would be "stuck in gear" type thing. kind of like in your video at 14:03! Thanks in advance!
Awesome Mike《☆》So smooth :*: My Busa could stand a smoother shift ☻
Thanks BDOG 🤘
Interesting stuff!
Good video
Thank you for the feedback man!
Thanks man..like always I love your videos 👍.I'm doing the shift star mode to my banshee .I hade 4 surgeries on my left foot and ankle. and my up and down movements are limited so I hope this modification will help me shift better.
great information.👍
DONT RUN THE ROLLER BEARING SHIFT DETENT! Trust me. Yamaha had a recall for them in the 2005-2006 YZ125's since they fall apart over time and lock up your transmission, destroying everything in it. Please I beg you
I have a 2005 yz 125.
@@skylerhealyvlogs9642 i had one as well and had to change the shift stopper detent in it. Tons of articles online if ya wanna know more about it.
Interesting... I'm going to look into this. Mac Daddy racing is a reputable company; I doubt they would sell these if they go bad like that. Maybe it was just an issue with the YZ125.
@@randommxname202 I am seeing a couple post on thumber talk about that. Should I be worried? I bought the bike with a brand new motor, and I shifted through the gears, and I only rode it 3 times already but it seems to be shifting fine.
@@skylerhealyvlogs9642 they shift fine until they fall apart haha. I did mine myself in my garage. Super easy, only took about 2 hours and while youre at it, change your shift shaft as well since youll need to take it out anyways to change the detent. A lot of bikes have already been changed to the bushing type already. If I were you, id just pop it open (you only need to take off the inner clutch cover) and take a peek for safety and peace of mind. If its the bearing, change it to a 2007 model shift detent. Thats what i did.
Very interesting Mike, I know I'm a year late but I wonder if this will work on my 350x I can't get into neutral
I know this video is old. but hopefully you can get back to me soon. i sold my drag set up. and bought a cub engine. but it has a stock tranny and clutch parts etc. when you rode your 421 was it hard to shift up a gear. or find neutral when sitting still after doing the shift mods?
Keep wrenching brotha
use that sander one your fingernails
That small pin may work itself out
Patrick Barnes no it won’t, washer holds it in.
Correct, the washer covers the hole slightly.
How did you like it
Its hard to shift into neutral to prevent false neutral
I'm saving money to get a 521cc kit for my banshee. My banshee is stock and I'm already looking for supporting mods like extended swingarm probably a +8 or +10. I wanted to get the 611cc kit but the dealer said it's not recommend for what I do since it's only drag race kit.
That's going to be mad power man!
@@MichaelSabo Yeah bpracing told me it's around 120-130 out the box. You have any suggestions on upgrades to support the build?
@@erickmaldonado9177 I would call Steve at BP Racing and see what he recommends. Those guys have a ton of experience in building Banshees and they know what to run with those mods.
@@MichaelSabo okay thanks. I will do a video once I get the kit.
@@erickmaldonado9177 so did you ever get the kit?
My friends banshee is stuck in second, and I'm wondering if the star is causing the issue.
I'm assuming you could do this to any atv or dirt bike that has a shift star if it is kind of tough to shift
Are you going to do the pancake bearing up grade for the push rod on the clutch?
Can you do this on other bikes like a blaster ?
Hi Michael, Can I make this modification without removing the engine from the banshee? the changes happen very hard and it is difficult to find neutral. Thank you!
I like the video
Thank you for the feedback man!
Is there any chance of it kicking out of gear doing this? My old two stroke sometimes when it had allot of strain in first gear would just kick into neutral sometimes second is that possible with this? Just wondering everyone in the comments don't need to be a jerk to me because I ask a question this time
John Smith what you are describing could be a slightly bent shift fork; during a crash the shifter could have been whacked, which can put force on one or all 3 shift forks. there could be no problems , some trouble, or a bike is jammed in one gear.you have to split your engine cases apart to get to them. Some MX bikes get get grumpier to shift , or find neutral, if the transmission oil is really old. The clutch will be grabby- er , possibly slip, if the trans. oil is worn, too.
@@richardkey4289 thanks 👍
My 2006 Yamaha raptor 350 shifts hard and I can't find neutral for the life of me. will this mod work?
Yes. This is a universal issue across many bike models, from Euro bikes to japanese bikes. It just seems like an afterthought to manufacturers from what I see researching this issue.
Provided you don't have any other issue with the transmission that is.
Is this mod only for the banshee? My buddy has a raptor 660 with difficulty shifting...
I know it will work on a Yamaha Blaster too. The 660 has a shift cam with a similar star at the end, but it's different and I dont think this would work.
Michael Sabo thanks buddy!
would this work on a blaster guessing yes?
Yes. I recently had my blaster engine torn down and the shift star is very similar if not exactly the same.
Yes, as Charles said; very similar if not the same.
So did the flat spot give you any fits?
No, it's been shifting great!
@@MichaelSabo cool! Banshee's are awesome machines!
I use to know a Marcy Sabo from here in my area the Ohio valley. Wheeling W.V - S.T. Clairsville Ohio but I wonder if y'all might be related? But I just figured I would mention it. Have a good one!
Plz adopt me !!!! Lol I'm only 53 hehehehe