It cost HOW MUCH!? to build a 4mil Banshee??? | Project 4mil
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Going over the typical expenses of building a 4mil Yamaha Banshee
It cost HOW MUCH!? to build a 4mil Banshee??? | Project 4mil
Here it is guys, highly requested, all of the costs of building project 4mil. Granted there are some small odds and ends that I left out such as my chain and sprockets; however these aren't mandatory to build a stroker motor.
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Thank you for taking the time to watch my video! This has been an awesome build and it wouldn't have been possible without the support of YOU! We want to know... What kind of build have you completed, and how much did it cost you? You all ROCK! 👊
Michael Sabo what carb mm are you running and what size Jett’s I’m having trouble with mine and what does the domes run on gas wizen does it have to run 93 octain
Built the same bike as yours put I went with high port timing with inframe pipes and v force 3s. Cost was about 3500 for me minus bike pipes reeds and clutch which I used the slingshot lockup as I didn’t want to buy a new clutch cover for 489$ a great alternative for half the price.
Michael Sabo never heard yay or nay on if you were interested in doing a rebuild series on my LT500? I have parts and I can pay you for labor and I can get the roller and engine and all parts up to you. Let me know I know the quadzilla got a lot of interest in the comments section when you posed the question. Mines a nasty bitch.
u deserve way more subs and views, ur videos are hella dope 💞💞🔥
Michael Sabo one last question I forgot to ask what is the needle clip you have it on is it still on the middle
Try finding one for 1500-2500 like you said now... people want 3k for a frame and plastics lol
So true 😂 I thought he was kidding
Bruv, now in my country a stock ugly one is 10k euro
@@dractartv4411 so glad I have one allready LOL
Found one near me. Blown engine and shot plastics and still wants 3700
@@peteharder6325i may be late but where im at that could get u a whole one that possibly looks brand new
Yahamah needs to bring back the banshee
But more modern frame and suspension
its called put it in a YFZ450 carbed model.
100% with you on that. buttttt.... the epa will not let that happen.
Enigma B0X not true think about other industries they use much larger much more powerful two stroke motors then this, all the main brands need to do is add efi and work with the pipe
@@shredder_mang3211 i get where your coming from but one of the main reason that the shee the lt250r and 500r were loved is because if the simplicity of them adding efi of any kind makes things more unnecessarily complicated. Im i saying that efi is bad not at all but adding fancy electronics to something that gets wet and coverd in mud dirt and sand all things that electronics dont like is dumb. Its the same reason/problem that i have with any modern car/truck to complex for thier own good when something brakes you just cant fix it you yave to take it in to a dealership and and pay an absorbent price for someone to plug a computer into it and fix it. Im good with all that
Enigma B0X have you ever had a bike with efi? I never hear about them failing I tear my carbs apart almost monthly/weekly
Thank you. Someone finally gives you a straight and correct answer. Probably one of the most valuable pieces of information on the internet.
I grew up on the dunes of the Oregon coast. A banshee even stock is quite scary. Had regular reports of people dying on them. Then there are the motorcycle riders.
Realistically for fun the Honda 250r and Yamaha warrior (also Honda 400 - 4 stoke) were amazing quads.
The Banshee is exactly as the name would suggest. Absolute 2 stroke monster.
Absolute 2 stroke monster is why we can’t get rid of them!!!!!
This video is put together very well and should be a model for all other You Tubers attempting to do the same. Your very proffesional and you only talk about relavant points while not talking about irrelevant personal stuff. Thanks you Michael, keep up the good work. It amazes me how many videos are 10 minutes long with about 30 seconds of usefull relevant information and the rest being blah blah blah.
Nice build brother. As always, love the content. You make the average guy feel like its possible with some time and patience. You helped me build my 4mil just by watching your videos. Much appreciated
Great build
Glad you hit em with that time/money reality! Most can't appreciate, I sure can friend!
You did an awesome build there, thanks 4 the knowledge n great days 2 you.
Nice breakdown man 🤙👊 thats a little cheaper then i imagined honestly!
4:39 is what you're looking for.
attention2 detail you the 🐐for that
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Thanks
Thank you!
Hii
That’s why everything I get for my quad or have done to it I have a folder of every receipt I have done to it your right u never no what ur gonna get
Almost at 20k subs, congrats man!
Thanks so much Noah! I'm stoked! 🤘👊
Awesome video Man 🔥🔥🔥
Dude we just came up on two 2004 banshees one limited edition, the other Yamaha blue, one with Toomey pipes and the other had pro circuit pipes, they look incredible brand new, garaged since 2004 pretty much. 3500 each.
Literally just picked them up yesterday. In running condition. They are awesome!!!!!!
For sale?
I ride an 89 zilla that I’ve hade since 91. It’s a 540 CT port and flow 41mil carb Ella shocks polished everything.
Awesome information. Love the channel 👊👍
Nice job Michael, I love your thoroughness in these videos! If you had to rate the 4mil Banshee and the Raptor on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate them?
I watched the 14 videos. Congratulations, perfect work, I see you here from Brazil, I have a RD350.
you expend all that money but i think was worth the quad look very good and powerful !nice job buddy
I have a banshee 350cc and the motor was rebuilt within the last month
Loving the new vibe ! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thank you bro 🤘
Nice Video and Thanks 4 The Information🙏🏼❤️
Better off getting a GSXR or dropping a GSXR motor on the frame with slight modifications for $3000... But I guess there's nothing like a fully built Banshee; and a Banshee isn't a Banshee without Banshee parts.
You said it, once you take that 2 stroke motor out. It isn't a banshee anymore.
yes and no. I have both a 80 hp banshee and r1 swapped banshee. the r1 is like riding a comfy couch that will kill you. it doesn't do any one thing really good other then having a ton of power and running a whole weekend on 5 gallons of non eth premium. the reg banshee I will go through 20 to 25 gallons of race fuel plus mix. but that sounds of the inline 4 screaming up the dunes at 11,000 rpm is pretty sweet!!
Great video definitely know what you’re talking about.
Thanks for the new video, would like to see you pair up with STB.
Great info.
Nice videos! keep up the good content. You're so lucky in GErmany we pay for the running quad already 7k and then you can start building not mentioning the expensive and very difficult legal registration...Best rgds
i picked up my banshee for 350 needed the carbs cleaned ,bone stock, 01 cant beat that. oh btw its a low hour super clean banshee. and yeah im bragging i have to because its fun
How did you decide on jet sizing? I shaved the heads to up the compression and am running 4% methanol with 118% octane race fuel, getting a weird power curve out of the motor now. it will stumble for a bit at lower RPMs but then when it hits the power ban it peaks and starts to run normal. I am also running FMF pipes and expansion chambers. Additionally, how did you configure you're rear swing arm to handle that power, i have cracked the welds on three rear arms now with no solution.
I absolutely love my 4mil Banshee.
I got a 96 banshee that's been bored out to the max... super fast compared to when it was stock... I got it up to 90 mph on the highway 111 and had to let off... scary shit man
Hello! First time viewer here. I just wanted to ask you why specifically did you choose to go with the Keihin carbs instead of going for the Lectron carbs? I'm sure you're aware of what Lectron carbs are all about, so I just wondered if maybe not getting the Lectron carbs had something to do with your build? Thanks! Cheers,
Thats awesome my 01 was an a-arm frame...
Awesome Mike《☆》Nice explanation & breakdown buddy :*: 🤠☻🤠
Thank you BDOG 👊🤘
That’s not bad. I’ve got around $8K in my Lt500r and I haven’t even redone the frame or suspension yet.
How much HP is it pulling on a dyno
What engine setup do you recommend for a play quad with more low to mid range power
Love your videos
awesome dude
Hermosa banshee!!!! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
U use brp racing I was making my list on their site but have heard so many negative reviews so was just trying to find assurance looks as tho they have the most complete kits I’ve seen your feedback on them would be awesome I can see the build got done and is beautiful.
Just out of curiosity how much would it cost to fix those items with stock parts especially if it already needing a rebuild then you would know how mudhole it is and it would probably sound more doable
Great vid👍
Thank you man! 🤘👊
Ever think of going with EFI?
36mm smartcarbs ran about $1200. Elka stage5 and rear linkage was about $4000. As always, how much do ya wanna spend. My 4mil stroker assassin cylinder kit and welded crank ran about $1450. Bp racing crossover intake $115. 4vforce reeds $400. And the list goes on. Clutch lockout, magnum clutch basket, asv shorty levers, Terrycable throttle, clutch and break cables. Stator cover, nuetral switch cover, crank case saver, shift mod, detent, extended swing arm, laeger long travel A-arms, jd customs three bar bumper, durablue axel, omf beadlock wheels, dirt and sand tires, Alba +2 steering stem and anti-vibe, fly handle bars, xfr nerfbars, powermadd handguards, large capacity radiator, billet water impellar, etc etc. Just say thousands.
Oh yea man... all that gets crazy expensive. That sounds like a top notch build though man 🤘 thank you for sharing.
@@MichaelSabo ur welcome, thank you.
What are the differences between the diffrent 4 mill setups?
Howd you go with your jetting.i have to servals,one stock 35mm pwk.,pro curcuits.the other redline ported 35mm pwk sniper pipes. Both v4 421.what i have found is bottom end pipes like more main jet and steeper needle .ie d taper 162 at sea level and mid top pipes like c taper needles and smaller main jets.150 ish.
The stock 421 serval with standard gears will pull sixth gear wheelies on demand with a d needle but wont even come close with a c needle.(very touquey engine) so in summary mains should be tuned first and then if mains are higher than160 at see level then a d taper is best(richer less efficient top end) for a bottom mid pipe ,and less the 160 .ie 148 to 155 then a c taper is by far best.(more efficient at top end).
Conversly the bottom end can be cleaned up with fatter or leaner straight section of needle and obviously mid bog can be taken out needle position.
Good luck with slps .like to hear final results
Nice build. I had a shee with pipes and a head a few years back, loved it. I am now on a LTR with a 550 stroker kit. It's pretty competitive with 4mm shees in the dunes. Don't even ask what it cost.
550 stroker? Sounds like a beast of a build. Thank you for the compliment man 👊
bernardthefourth What it cost ? ha ha ha
bernardthefourth I'd love to race your bike . I have a 2013 trx450er 62hp drag bike . I never ever see built LTR's at the track
@@montanapolo7149 I lost to a little guy on a built TRX. He was like 120 pound guy and I'm like 200. It was up a huge hill in St. Anthony, ID.
bernardthefourth I'm 205lbs myself . Last season where I'm at in NC a little 60lb 13yr old a 500cc trx dominated every shootout
Nice, I just rebuilt mine 99. Waiting on my Bēnol...32.1 110 airplane fuild. nobody sells it over here nomore. What are you running?
To bad banshees aren’t 2500 nomore
Hey man how’s it going what ratio are you using ?
What is this maintenance on a bike like this. I’ve had numerous bikes since my early high school days from 700’s, 450’s, and a 400ex and I built and worked on all of them myself. but never a 2 stroke. Just bought a 700xx I’m building but I’m also curious about building one of these.
I have a 4mil banshee with a dune play port. I cant seem to get it dialed in with my current 35mm keihin carbs. Any suggestions?
I am in the process of building a 2005 TRX450r. It is rideable right now, but I’m changing some things up on it. It’s got a Monster shorty exhaust ($650), bored FCR carb ($300), Hotcam 3 ($150), airbox delete with filter ($80), head cut for +1 valves ($495), porting from Racers Edge ($450), CP 13.5:1 piston ($290), OEM crank rebuilt with a Carrillo rod and balanced for the piston ($650), JJ&A axle ($575), dynatek ignition ($150), OEM clutch with Cr500 springs ($150), and bought the quad blown up for 1200. First trip out I was gapping a 4 mil banshee with a 120 pound rider on its back (and I’m 235) up choke cherry at the st Anthony dunes. I’m in the process of getting the swingarm changed out for a +4 with 06+ linkage, and getting buffs for the front, with 12 paddle 75 RO gliders for the back. I used to be a banshee guy. Til I decided to give a trx450 a go. And won’t go back to a banshee unless I’m building an all out drag quad. It’s sitting in the mid 50hp range. And I can find more power if I put in a higher compression piston, and change up to a Web 242 cam and tune on MR12. But, seeing as it’s a duner, it’s gonna be kept where it’s at for power.
Trevor Slenders I’ve ridden it a bit now. Had it dyno tuned, and it makes 60 on T4 race fuel.
Trevor Slenders mines stock stroke stock bore. For the most part, the big bore kits for the 4 strokes are trash. If you want a good one, get one through Racers Edge seeing as he makes the cylinder, and it can ACTUALLY hold compression. The stroked engines don’t hold up too terribly long.
When are you doing the test with the knock off carbs ??
Niceee!
Been waiting for months
Mike,
is that list all i need for a 4 mil banshee?
av built couple of street fighters bro and you've awesome job
Honestly, I think that's a good price when a clean stock banshee here in philly can run you 4k easily.
But also if your patient, you can buy used parts in good condition. My friend got his hotrods crank for 200 when they retail 400 plus.
That's true too. Just remember theres a lot of labor after the 5-6k investment.
5000-6000€ in Europe. I mean France but they not road legal. But in Belgium its fucking road legal.. Those lucky bastards...
@@reggiexp69 in netherlands a stock banshee on license plate is 8.900 euro and if you can find a banshee cheaper. It is one without license plate and even then you pay 6k
@@alexbezemer9209 in nederland?
you got road legal banshee's? i didnt know that...
and damn so its not just france where banshee prices went up? in france they are not road legal... france doesnt allow it for some reason.
You would already need a motor for those first kits you showed?
I just received in the mail my 421 cheetah cub complete kit from BP racing the kit I bought was 3200 that was without the lock-up case cover but I do agree VP racing offers the most complete kids like you said everything is put together to work for the power that trying to create Sonu parts are at a strain my kid came with everything except the transmission in the case but I already had the nice set of pipes and case saver so I'm just going to start my bill but you have any tips of information what was in your video would love to hear them thanks for your videos keep me coming.
So how do you get a sponsor ship? I have a lot of money in my banshee and looking to do another one.
great breakdown sir..... soooo the carbs..... theyre actually pronounced kay-heen .... ikr? ive been a dealer bike mechanic for most of my adult life and only found this out less than 10 years ago...... my source was either Dynojet or Ivans website lol thats a badass engine i ride a rz350 pretty much daily if youve never heard of them google it thats where the banshee got its engine.... 😁
Here in Canada things are more expensive. I bought a thrashed banshee last year for $2800. In retrospect I overpaid cause it blew up a couple months after I bought it. But the price of banshees is also going up. Turns out the previous owner had a shop change the pistons after one grenaded in the cylinder. They left metal in the bottom of the crankcase and the next piston did the same thing. But I would bet in Canada your build would be more like $10k as parts are a lot more here.
I've heard the term "4mil" before but never asked what it meant. I had no idea a 4mil Banshee upgrade encompassed such a wide variety of "it's better now" hop-ups.
Think of what your Banshee would look like if all the external/visible aluminum was anodized (red, blue, green, black, brass...there are a few different colors you can get).
All it means, SPECIFICALLY, is the crank has 4mm (4mil) more stroke than a stock sized one. It doesn't mean "a whole bunch of parts"... Change the the crank (which means changing at least the rod length too), and there you have it.. a "4 mil" Banshee! 🤘
How much did that Johnny Bravo Hair dew cost???
So... question... why did you choose SLP over CPI or Shearer when pairing with the large 35 carbs? I could see using them with smaller carbs, but you’re cutting the airflow down with the pipes?
SLP was recommended to me by Driveline Performance which is the company that make the 421 kit in this build. SLP also sponsored this build.
Do you still have the oem cylinders for sale
Hi. I have a question if someone can please help me out. So can you install long rods on an oem krank? . Someone please answer me i need to rebuild my bike
Just now in canada there between 4500-6000$ bike only , there going up in value soo happy mine runs phenomenal
It's crazy how much money they're fetching.
@@MichaelSabo aint nothing like a shee nowadays :) im contemplating on building a super cub but i love trail riding ahahaah
Where can I find a complete engine build kit
What’s a shirt detent and how does it work
10k and mine looks like crap, Shee’s a sleeper. lol I went for a Mad Max look.
1996 Banshee...100% restomod...472...no expense spared...$39k...being the basest n fastest bike anywhere...priceless...What’s up Mike Sabo...I’ll get that pic to u.
shit i wish we could still buy banshee's for $1500-2500 lol
I’m trying to get a bare frame and build from ground up
I own a 667 in the uk I will upload videos after week end
Nice video Michael!! Greetings from the guy who sent you the yellow Banshee pics from Pereira, Colombia!!
My dad and I built an 89 lt250r drag quad. Was $1,400-1,600 for the quad then put $1,200 into it and it looked like shit but I whooped everything in a drag besides a built banshee.
I want to see you do a89 trx 250r
Well thats not actually that bad price for that performance and look
I work at a well known race shop that specializes in super bike and moto gp engines. A lot of folks are floored when they get a build quote because they just don’t understand the time and research that goes into building these engines. Super bike engines are as far as specs go for the most part stock engines. But for us to build one will start in the ballpark of $13,000.00 for the engine alone. Easily double that for a moto gp engine. People forget that bikes are mass produced on a production line and slapped together with “ close enough” tolerances . We spend on average 100 man hrs balancing an engines rotating assy to perfect 0’s . And on average an addl 200-300 hrs on each head making them as close to perfect as humanly possible in every area.
Bad ass shit man great pointers
Is br8es a warm enough spark plug for that kind of power, because my 50cc moped runs the same spark plug and it only has a power exhaust and it has around 6hp.
That's an interesting though, the br8es was what was recommended to me but it's possible a hotter plug would be better.
Eino Torkkel power has nothing to with plugs br8es is the base line spark plug for two strokes
Straight B8es. Are the Best All Around Plug. Used in Everything 2 stroke i own. Never Fouls never to hot . SOMETIMES i run 7es for the Hills
Awesome Banshee Michael 😉. the engine isnt it the same as the Yamaha RD350 YPVS?
Yes but I believe the engine in the street bike has a powervalve..why us banshee owners didn't get the powervalve?..cause screw us I guess lol
I got a 89 for $400 hadn’t been ridden in years now I gotta start rebuilding it
get it running?
Where can i buy a banshee motor?
New sub here, how did you go about getting sponsored??
Great information I surely appreciate it thanks for the information around here in north Carolina for a decent looking banshee I have been looking for are around 4 to 6 thousand dollars still looking bone to fix up maybe I'll find one one day will be looking forward to more of your videos great looking banshee you have take care will talk with you later thanks again
Where do you ride ? Around Philadelphia area?
Hey man you still have the ported cylinders ?
Yes I do; I have both sets
I looked on BP racing and they have a complete 421 serval billet engine complete for $7000. I think I’m going to rebuild my banshee from the ground up this winter. How much can I get for my perfect running stock motor with carbs and everything?
About 1k
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I need ur help with a decision I’m going to get my very first dirtbike and I’m looking at getting a 125 2 stroke or a 250 2 stroke or a 250 4 stroke what do u think would be the best for trail riding and hill climbing
clay yarosz for trails and hills the 4 stroke.
Adam apparently you don’t know why 4 strokes are used over 2 strokes for trail riding. I love 2 strokes but for putting around trails a 4 stroke is the best. Can easily lug a 4 stroke but on a 2 stroke no. I used to foul the shit out of plugs on my 2 strokes if I wasent giving it the full beans and tried to lug around on trails. The way power is delivered matters.
250 4strokre dude
Looks like only an extra grand for 570 cc seems like the way to go.
What's the rear wheel horsepower
That banshee is bad ass
Question, my banshee is having a hard time shifting from 2nd to 3rd and sometimes from 3rd to 4th. It only does this when I’m wide open. When I’m just cruising, it’s shifts fine. Any ideas. I replaced the shift forks but it’s still doing it. 😡
Clutch
Brandon Peters I put new clutch basket, plates, springs, pancake and cable. I installed the chariot clutch basket